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- Are Paul Pierce and Doc Rivers being hypocritical for criticizing Kevin Durant? Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe react.
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Paul Pierce, Doc Rivers criticize Durant for joining Warriors - Skip Bayless reacts | UNDISPUTED
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Will the Warriors win the title this year?
UNDISPUTED ON FS1 No
UNDISPUTED ON FS1 DUH
UNDISPUTED ON FS1 Nope.
Yes!!!!
Adam Silver and NBA will make sure Lebron wins.....sadly.
This man Skip said “does anyone want to see KD go to Brooklyn? NO!” Little does he know 🤣🤣🤣
Lol
This is too funny 😆
Come to find out they got swept first round by the Celtics led by Jason Tatum. Skip would loose his mind.
Why does Skip think that KDs move is okay but he condemns LeBron?!
edward leesta You know who Skip Bayless is right? He's always hypocritical
edward leesta cause Lebron call itself the best player of the world and he cry too much to get a ring
edward leesta media bias hate
louneau more people should cry more like harden and Westbrook maybe they can get a ring too
cause Lebron is on another level. KD is more a Dirk. While Lebron is a magic.
Doc rivers needs to worry about his team not getting out the first round
Thats why he is saying this...Tried to tell KD sign elsewhere next yr.
Wade H then he needs to worry about keeping Paul away from SA and Blake from Heat
Fr lmaoo
trevion sewell they criticize him because clippers have been getting smashed by the warriors the last 5 years
Edward Estrada nah it's been the last 3 years the clippers haven't beaten the warriors since 2014
getting traded to a team is completely different from choosing where you will play skip.
blackman34 true
blackman34 kg had a no trade clause so it was up to him
blackman34 SKIIIIIIIIUP
Not really.. Why should a player be at the mercy of teams and not be able to do what is best for them and their career.
They didn't want him anymore and his team was rebuilding so he ended the clause and said send me to a contender
this is like when sasuke joined orochimaru
raheem Pretty accurate
perfect analogy💀💀😂
raheem lebron itachi??
This is worse
Itachi = LeBron
Sasuke = Durant
Orochimaru = Curry
Didn't Skip criticize KD for running to the Warriors yesterday? This man is the biggest hypocrite in sports media.
ikr
Plutoman I Swear
Plutoman I agree
Plutoman They get paid to be hypocrites.
He's not a hypocrite. He said what he said and still believes it...he's saying it's okay because he knows and stated that kd doesn't have the alpha mentality and he needs someone else to run the show. He's a robin not a batman he's a robin. The MOST TALENTED ROLE PLAYER EVER. He's basically taunting him.
All "superteams" aren't created equal. The Heat were a .573 (5th seed) win team before LeBron. The Celtics were .293 before Garnett. The Warriors were winningest team in league history before Durant. Not the same. That would be like Barkley going to the Bulls in 92-93 or Dirk going to the Spurs in 06-07. The competitiveness of the entire league is worst because of Durant.
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THEE DUMB MOTHERFUKERS IN THE BACK
CS Watson Ironically if KD dosent go to gsw the west becomes more competitive and the CaVs sweep their way to another chip.
So basically what your saying is you want the Cavs to win easy.
CS Watson both the heat and Celtics had two all stars coming. Warriors had one. What now
Ruben Julius sure, but there's always been average, above average, and below. That curve exists in every sport. But, the bigger issue is competitiveness and parity. If you're gonna stack two teams, then just reduce the league to 16 teams. I don't mind teams being dominant. They should just be organic about it thru shrewd drafting and crafty trades. I don't mind free agency. Just not to the covfefe
CS Watson they drafted 3 of them and signed 1 free agent. Does it get more organic than that? And the Cavs were a super team last year, and only stopped being considered as such because Durant signed with GS. Only in sports does an employee get knocked for going to the best company in his industry to work with the best employees and managers. Parity is great for entertainment, but it's not like 3 guys for 3 different teams colluded and made some crazy decision to build this team. He tested the waters and signed with the best opportunity.
GoldenState didnt need Durant. They just didnt want him in OKC.
chrisw10000 exactly
chrisw10000 You can't blame Golden State though 🐇
They didn't really need to do much. KD willingly joined them
Not really whos to say that without kd they didnt woo another talent to the team. THey could have went out and got a good center and still been favorites to win it all
Man every team wants Durant. Refusing him would be like refusing a blank check
Lebron left a sorry Cavs team, Kd left a team that could've won the title if they didn't choke. I'm a Kobe fan so I'm not biased 😂😂😂
Kevin durant didnt form a super team he joined one with the best record that coulve gone back to the finals without him. Celtics didnt know if it would work. Big difference
This is nothing compared to Boston. Stop it. Ray Allen and KG joined a mediocre Celtics team via a trade. KD jumped on the 73-9 Warriors bandwagon to get a ring on a team that's been to 2 straight NBA finals that also beat KD because he chocked a 3-1 lead. There is literally no competition now in the league outside 2 teams in the NBA because of this weak move.
Cameron Sharif
Blame LBJ and KD, both did weak moves to make it easier on themselves. Both got with legit stars and now have the most stacked team in their respective conference.
Don't compare building a team to joining an already championship team that knocked you out of the playoffs.
Suede The DJ the warriors built their team and added a free agent.
phillyfanatic11+ True, but did they really NEED that free agent? In my opinion, all they needed was a better big man. Rebounding was and always will be their achilles heel against the Cavs, as long as they are constructed this way.
Mark 975 they needed a sf and if kd was available why would you not ? Lol also kd is a very good rebounder.
And just to add because people forget.. KD won the scoring title 4 times with Russ and the MVP award with Russ. Stop all that he didn't get the ball mess. If he didn't why do we call him top 2 of 3 best in the league ?? Hmm 😒
That isn't quite what they mean. In a lot of playoff games and key situations Westbrook was taking the last shot instead of Durant. It made no sense seeing as how Durant is a better scorer than Westbrook, and was likely why the Thunder lost 4-1 to the Heat even though Durant played well on offense.
Kai Kawasumi Durant and Westbrook have both grown since the finals against the heat. Durant is. Better shooter though I can agree with that; but even last year in the WCF, watching KD in the clutch it seemed like he didn't want he ball some of the time!!
Quinton lovett russ was hurt for his mvp, russell is probably the best athelete at his size ever, but his mentality turned durant away
Quinton lovett durant was always clutch, but Russell would dribble dribble dribble till 6 or 7 seconds on the shot clock then durant would have to take a last second shot besides there being a real offensive system in golden state
LMAO Lebron goes to miami and Skip destroys him, but somehow Durant does the same thing and it's ok. Subjective hypocrite.
Read the topic he was criticizing Doc and his stupid comments.
Wade H are you deaf, he ws clearly defending what kd did. why would he bring up westbrook if he wasnt
Alec St Germain its the way lebron did it... the special on tv... the "not 1 not 2 not 3..."
If you watched first take back in the day he never criticized Lebron going to Miami
Alec St Germain They are only the same in that they both joined good players. But vastly different and therefore not equatable with the circumstances surrounding each move. KD to warriors would have been equal LBJ joining the celtics.
2:54 3 years later that “what” is still hilarious
KD going to the Warriors will always be a stain on his resume...
Kevin Durant move is the same as if in summer 2014, after getting beaten by the Spurs, LeBron joins them or if LeBron joined the Celtics in 2010.
The problem for me is not joining a super team but joining the team that beat you. If Kevin had joined the Clippers, Spurs or Rockets, I would have no problem. Still super teams, but not as weak a move.
I mean, can you imagine LeBron joining Golden State after 2015 finals, like "Well, can't beat 'em! Why not join 'em."
Ashley Montana the amount of facts...W
Ashley Montana cavs losing anyway
Ashley Montana u pretty, but u trippin
Yeah seriously imagine LeBron on that team instead of KD...
Ashley Montana BRAVO.COM🙌🏾
He’s a Net now.. 😂😂
KD left for a team that was already established.
All KD needs to do is be a slightly more efficient Harrison Barnes
The humiliating loss in 2016 Finals changes everything . And even with KD , the Warriors have no guarantee ... Without KD , the Warriors had no chance against LeBron ...
I wouldn't say "no chance", they almost beat the Cavs last year with the same core guys.
Going into last off-season GS had FAs (Barbosa, Speights, Ezeli), including Barnes who would demand a max deal. They weren't going to match for Barnes, because of the KD signing, so they let him sign with Dallas. Then they traded Bogut to Dallas to dump salary. Those are 5 major pieces (2 of them starters) of the 2015 championship and 2016 finals team gone. How were they already established coming into this year? If anything, they had to rebuild their bench and re-establish after the Durant signing... Zaza, West, McGee, all free agents available for every other team to pick up. McCaw is a rookie that the Bucks gave up on too soon and traded away for cash and M Barnes is a waiver wire pick up, who was also available to every other team
Oswaldo Contreras stop using common sense, haters don't want to hear truth lol
Leaving Thunder and Joining the Warriors are two separate topics, no body hates Durant for leaving, people were saying he needed to leave for himself, but not to join a team that was 73-9 without him, its called free riding.
I have no problem with them criticizing his move. And Ray Allen and KG going to Boston is nothing like that. Neither the Sonics nor the T- Wolves were up 3-1 in the Western Finals and choked. Plus they were traded to the Celtics. KD signed with the Warriors. He was on a top 3 team in the league and was up 3-1 on the best team (arguably of all time) and choked it. So he went to the team that beat him. That was probably the weakest move I've ever seen.
this guy gets it
phil6057 People only defending him cause he's a warrior player. They know it was worse than any move any other superstar did.
he's a free agent. he can go anywhere he wants.
top 3 team? He played his game all 7 games except a bad game 6.. The difference was that the supporting cast in okc disappeared and the only ones that showed up to play were wb and durant. 2 players can't beat the warriors. Keep hating though
your comment and you picture shows that you are a bandwagon boi
Doc Rivers is so salty. Instead of him getting his team out of the first round or devising a plan to get better, he's out here making comments on free agency decisions. Did Doc also try to recruit Durant? I think so. I like Doc, but he salty and bitter and seems to forget his Celtics.
Ayveel Robinson I heard doc rivers didn't even show KD no love that's why he didn't come to the clippers doc is horrible
hes not bitter, he used logic. he tried to recruit kd so how could he be salty. He like everyone else just thinks kd made a sucker move. Its not that hard to understand
M Brown hmm tried to recruit a superstar, he couldn't. That superstar joined the Warriors while his team got knocked out in the first round. Not hard to understand while that would be construed as him being salty. Where was this criticism before? He couldn't get KD himself so dude is salty cause his team still trash simple
Doc is probably mad because of the CP3 signing with the Spurs rumors circulating lately and is being passive aggressive lol
+Oswaldo Contreras that's exactly why lol
“does anyone want to see KD go to brooklyn” does he know?
Are we still talking about this? They must be running out of topics.
Jerry Velez This is still his first season with the warriors. Its still a relevant topic
Jerry Velez and everyone had a week to wait
Just wait till after the finals only topic will be baseball
Jerry Velez it's the finals lol nothing else is going on ha
Trey Worden ohhh noooo lol
The difference is DURANT was up 3-1 and Paul Pierce n Garnett played AAU ball together
yeah and then his teammates disappeared. KD and Wb can't outscore the warriors by themselves
Andrew066 They had enough chances in 3 games, ask the 73-9 warrior team.
Oh so AAU connection runs that deep? lol
kevin Durant and Steph Curry also played AAU Ball together
Mall La Soul so did curry and Durant
Garnett and Allen were traded. they didn't join via free agency skip
Common Sense Paul pierce had a no trade clause. He let them
Trade him. Get your facts straight
KG had a no trade clause
Common Sense Him and Kg had a no trade clause 😂😂 so yea they technically left as soon as they saw they were going nowhere anymlre with the Celtics
YAWSH not when he left the wolves
Still the weakest move in nba history lol
Still mad? 😂
@@LandStrider23 tbh yeah he ruined stephs legacy I wish they didn’t rig the 2016 finals it’s better for the warriors to have won 2016 then 2017 and 2018 smh
@@LandStrider23he ruined legacies. Including himslef
WTF is so hard to understand with this???
KD was up 3-1 and choked the series away, said to himself "I'm not good enough to beat this Warriors team" and joined them. An ALL TIME GREAT team that had just won 73 games, and really had no need for Durant.
Comepetive sports is about competing with the best in your field. sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. But when it's all said and done, you can hold your head up high and say you competed. Durant cannot do that! he ran away from a challenge, that if he succeeded in, would've vaulted him up the GOAT lists no doubt. Lebron competed, succeeded and now we're asking ourselves if he's the GOAT. Durant is a top 2 player at the prime of his life who made a move a bottom 20 player at the end of their career would make. he went for a cheap ring, and it will mean absolutely NOTHING if he gets it. Durant IMO should forever have lost any respect anyone within the NBA community had for him. The weakest move in any sports history
Five star comment. KD joining the Warriors is like Julio Jones joining the Pats this September. KD is a Momma's boy. Even if the Warriors win, KD will be looked at like a bandwagoner coward
freesportube yes sir
I agree that it was a bad move, and that the Warriors didn't need him, but how can you say Lebron didn't do the almost the exact same thing? It doesn't matter what Miami or Cleveland were like before he got there. Each time, he joined 2 other all stars to create a super team. Maybe what he did isn't quite as bad as what Durant did, I agree with that, but it's probably pretty close.
@@Mark-kq6ch there is definitely similarities but kd's was obviously way worse
@@matthewcao2279 lol I re-read my comment from 2 years ago, and I actually can't believe I said that. KD WAS way worse because he joined a 73 win team, period. And because Steph is also a top 3 player. Although I guess you could say D Wade was a top...5-7 player in 2010?
like if doc rivers is the most overrated coach in history
right next to Lue imo
I still think it's Erik Spoelstra
"It's not Blake's fault, don't put this on Blake."
Eddie Everything sike, did you see what he did this year?
Mario Perretti as well as when he first got the gig in 2008 and 2009
I have never witnessed so much truth as in this video... 💯💯💯
+adam_4_18_1984 because he didn't join the team that just beat him
Okc was up 3-1 he will always be remembered for leaving and going to the team who beat you. The end.
So in your opinion who is going to be the X-factor for both teams?
GSW
Klay
Steph
Draymond
KD
CAVS
Lebron
Kyrie
Love
TT
Brando Williams I think
GSW
Klay
Cavs
Kyrie
Brando Williams Klay, K Love
Brando Williams
gsw
easily klay
cavs
k love
the REFS....
Brando Williams k love don't show up then Cleveland loses
there is kind of a sick double standard with people criticizing players who don't win rings but then hate them for going to win rings and leaving their old team.
Dark Knight Goes into Hiding they can still rest but critics will always say oh they never won a ring I just don't think it's fair doc rivers is the one who makes a comment on how he dislikes a super team
Dark Knight Goes into Hiding aint that what lebron did? Left his home for the heats to win a championship and when he could no longer milk the heats for a championship he left to cavs where Kyrie was waiting and a love was joining.
KG & Ray was traded to Boston
Kenny Williams because they asked to be
Doc and Pierce wouldn't have a chip if it wasn't for KG and RA. 2008 Boston squad was the reason LBJ decided to create a super team in MIA
Pierce, Garnett, and Allen were 30, 31, and 32 when they got together, so they were an average of 3 years older, which is significant.
KD didn't have to leave OKC in order to win a title, KG and Allen couldn't win where they were playing, so they left to go to Boston.
I don't think these ppl understand what Paul and Doc was saying. He joined the team that had just beat him a month early how the f can y'all defend that it seems a weak move to normal ppl no matter his motives . I mean u lose to them when your up 3-1 and then come to find out u had been in conversation with Draymond through out the year. talking about a move? So u mean to tell me that while your playing this team in the WCF you buddying up with the enemy and then u go on to have sub par performances in the last 3 games against them? something seems untoward about that whole sequence
Did he play them in the playoffs while they were playing each other? Stop trying to draw parallels between what Lebron did and what KD did its silly there ain't no comparison. I ain't even mad though he had the right to go wherever he wanted I'm just saying it looks weak and OKC Thunder players are still probably thinking to themselves maybe he didn't play to his potential against the Warriors on purpose
First superteam ever created was Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman. There is no debate here.
In 2006-07 the Celtics won 24 games and Boston fans were calling for Doc Rivers' head. The very next season they won 66 games and the NBA championship. No rebuild. No player development. They literally became a totally different team overnight. And while it was done through trades you better believe both Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett had a lot of say on where they went.
Rivers wouldn't even be considered a "good" NBA coach without his Celtics super team. Paul Pierce wouldn't have his Finals MVP without that same super team. That super team lead to LeBron leaving a 60+ win Cleveland team to go to Miami. And now we have KD in Golden State. These guys are no different than KD. The view from those high horses must be pretty good.
Funny Skip mentioned here assuming KD would joining the Nets to beat Lebron and Kyrie (still in Cleveland that time). Now look where KD ended up, AND Kyrie is with him there LOL
Skip has a history of seeing things in hindsight . That's wild
This move made him officially out of top 10 of all time
khalid mohammed facts
He was never in the top 10 to begin with.
SKIEEEEEEPP
Durant to Wizards would have been magical though. no pun intended
Everyone should follow KD's example. If you are not happy where you are at, move on. If you are fortunate enough to have options where to go, choose the best situation for you and ignore what others may think or say. He's in his prime playing for a great organization with great players, and in a great location. You want to be successful? Be around people who are successful. They have the attitude and culture to make you successful if you are willing to work. EVERYONE that is criticizing KD are hypocrites.
Weird that skip battles predicted Kevin Durant to nets
they were up 3-1 against the warriors that argument saying he couldn't win dosent make since HE CHOKED
He chocked by scoring 28 in game 7 and 40 in game 5... Damn you need help. Two players can't outscore the warriors
Andrew066 they were up 3-1 they chocked LeBron or Jordan's would not have lost LeBron would have demanded the ball and so would Jordan Durant is a baby so he ran away and u failed to mention game 6
the flygod 24 they chocked? Again he scored 28 and 40... how dumb can you be? 2 players can't beat a team with several scoring options especially with your supporting cast disappearing
Andrew066 LeBron won 2 games against that same team by his self in the finals the year before
Andrew066 and u failed to mention game 6 again when they were at home
Its as simple as this, Their is a clear difference from leaving a cheap franchise not willing to get help and going out and getting it yourself. Than leaving one of the top 5 players in the league as championship contenders to go to the team that has the best reg season record, a championship title the year prior, and also the same team that defeated you after you were up 3-1
Doc is just sour, didn't he tried to sign KD last summer? CP3, Blake, Jordan and KD is not a superteam?
Wade H clippers didn't just come back to beat them in 3-1 in the WCF
Wade H durant would be fit perfectly with the clippers and would definitely be the missing piece. warriors did not need durant as they were already a championship team
I said this when this first came out and I will say it again:
NOBODY will ever forget HOW he won his championships. NOBODY. He unfortunately, though his fault, will be the only player in history to have his championships in GSW stained from the decision he made. It will NEVER be forgotten ESPECIALLY if he doesn't win in Brooklyn.
Half of the people mad at him have already forgotten about it and aren't really mad at it. Thats how things work, we scream at people, until somebody does something else and then we forget what happened and start screaming at them. Its sick.
Lets cut the BS people, KD had great options to beat James and that is a fact. No one talks about the teams and the moves they were going to make to get KD and make him happy. Boston was going to trade for Butler if KD came, Wash already had the team to go at James, so don't anyone act like KD didn't have great options in the east. The dude ran to the easy path to get to the finals without having to deal with James and to say he didn't do that is crazy. Come on people this guy went to a team already loaded and winning without him. Everyone wants to say what about James and i ask everyone this each time they bring up James. What was the heat before James got there? Go look up the numbers then come talk to me. KD ran from the challenge to knock off James in the east.
Stop man just stop, They were going to send I.T to the bulls, no one is talking about that but want to say they were going to keep I.T when they weren't. He was going to be apart of the trade, Boston was going to put Al, KD, and Butler together and you telling me KD couldn't win with that. Come on man. He couldn't win with Wall & Beal? come on man. I mean people calling him the second best player in the world and you telling me he couldn't take out James at least one time to go get a ring. I mean we have to stop the story changing on players. James got killllllllllllllleeeeedddddd when he went to MIA which was nothing until he got there.
Chisolm Bartholomew
Dude LBJ and KD both joined legit stars to make it easier on themselves, that's just a fact. You can say "well LBJ didn't join a team he lost to, KD did" but that doesn't excuse his weak moves. LBJ was getting bashed like crazy from fans and former players for his two moves but now we're suppose to sweep it under the rug like he didn't do weak moves just bc he didn't join a stacked team he lost to like KD? Naw, in the end it's weak on both their parts.
"Dude LBJ and KD both joined legit stars to make it easier on themselves, that's just a fact"
What was Dwade doing before James got there? Its not the same situation. Just tell me what was Mia before he got there.
Before james got to Miami they won a championship without him and before Lebron joined Miami Dwade was the NBA all star MVP.
before LeBron got there? Wade won the title with Miami in 06 and pretty much did it by himself.
KD would've had a good chance at the title with the wizards
They purposely skipping over what Paul Pierce was saying. Kd left and went to the team that beat him, the team he was up 3-1 on. As a competitor and the second best player in the league it was a weak move. I can't believe he went out like that he sold his soul for a ring. It's like Mike going to the pistons or Isaiah going to Boston. If lebron joined the warriors after 15 he would of been crucified again
RBG RBG He sold his soul for a ring cuz the haters couldn't stop criticizing him for not having a ring. You can't have it both ways
Bernard Brunu Yall keep sayin we can't have it both ways, but it's not having it both ways. It's fair to view a superstar lesser than he is if he doesn't win a title, cause that's the object of the game, to win the ring. If a supestar's been in the league 8 to 10, somewhere within those 10 years he should have a title being if hes one of the top players in the world. And really nobody was getting on KD for not having a title cause they knew how his road to the finals was in the west. Lebron put pressure on himself for not having ring, ppl recognize his first run with the Cavs that his teammates weren't good enough "at the time". Yall just need to face it, BOTH took the easy way out being the top 1 and 2 players in the world. But I still feel the Durant move was a lot weaker seeing as the warriors were a championship contender without him.
Pierce has a ring, Finals MVP, 10x All-Star, Top 15 in scoring, and Top 5 in Three-pointers. Show the man some respect.
KD pulled the weakest move of any superstar in NBA history. He did not move to create a super team like Lebron or Shaq did to compete for a championship, KD joined a proven championship and all-time great team - made worse by the fact he could have dethroned them if he hadn't choked in 3 straight games.
popp007us nice copy and paste from a Stephen A smith transcript.
FYI i didn't delete your comment. Obviously your original insulting comment got deleted by the poster.
James david manning, do you have a valid retort or are you going to just deflect.
popp007us KD isnt Lebron or shaq.
Skip loves to blame Russ!! They both had a big part in the Thunder losing last year!! I was looking forward to seeing them play the warriors this year; until last July hit!! Smh
Paul pierce is a Walmart Kevin Durant smh
raheem Stop being disrespectful Pierce was a beast back in the day. Went toe to toe with the golden boy Lebron. Had epic finals series against Kobe. What has Durant done....oh.
Steven Burnett compare career stats , KD > Pierce
lol paul pierce stats are cute when compared to KDs
Samuel Omotunde NOW regarded as a Bandwagon
don't disrespect Paul like that.. check his resume dude
You’re wrong Skip, we still remember that Durant joined the 73-9 warriors that he couldn’t beat despite having a 3-1 lead...
Paul Pierce got traded to Brooklyn Shannon lol
BannedOnTV Paul Pierce had a "No Trade clause". He wanted to go there and they obliged him.
John Edwards no. They wanted him to get traded so they could get a future and he waived it.
Kevin Garnett waved no trade Claus to create Boston super team with a big 4 and doc. And doc wanted kd in la on the Clippers to make a big 4 with cp3. he's just bitter that kd chose gsw
KD was incredibly smart to leave OKC and go to Golden State. NBA players don't discipline their bodies and minds and practice and play hundreds of games to be on a losing team and not be a champion. That is just stupid. KD is a winner and Russ will have nothing but statistics.
The Serf they were 1 game away from being in the NBA finals and would've been there if KD didn't choke in game 6 where he shot 10-31
They werent even close to winning the NBA finals. They've been there before and if thunder won the west they wouldnt have won the finals. They were a good team but Russ and thunder always come up short in crunch time. Look what happened this year. They got beaten out by the rockets first round. But that takes a back seat to the real issue. KD was just tired of playing with Russ. You can tell it just frustrated him most times. He joined a team where he liked the people he worked with off and on the court and also happens to be one of the best teams in the NBA. Why would KD go to a lesser team where he would have to carry the brunt of the work himself when he can play on a team where he can just focus on his game and not anyone elses?
It’s funny he went to the nets skip lol
KD is the weakest superstar in NBA history.
Warriors will lose.
Your Physically Abusive AlcoholicDad That Left You Dad is that you?
Faxx
lebum must be 2nd then..he did what KD TWICE
philip brown how's he second lol
There's no comparison between the celtics and what KD did 😂
There's a difference between forming a team and jumping on a bandwagon
Paul Pierce didn't choose to go to Brooklyn so Shannon's point makes no sense
Justin Thoukidides yes he did it was his choice. He's said it numerous times. So Boston could get a #1 pick. Get your facts straight
No he did not choose it, Danny Ainge traded him. And what you are saying is the stupidest thing I have ever heard because there was no guarantee the picks from Brooklyn would be good picks anyways so he would never say that! In addition he has said a million times that he would have loved to retire a Boston Celtic but things happen.
How about you get your facts straight before you start pretending to know things man.
Tron8147 yea you don't know what your talking about
Terence McClain Good reply man your really spitting facts
Ryan Williams Exactly man xD he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about 😂
First time I see Skip & Shannon agree on a discussion and I can't agree less...
If KD win this year he would already have accomplished more than Paul Pierce did his whole career
Steph Curry The G.O.A.T W as always GOAT
Steph Curry The G.O.A.T PP didn't Join a superteam to win a chip
Anonym doesn't matter kd will always be better than paul pierce
But Paul Pierce won a chip?
Paul Pierce also didn't fold when it mattered most. I'm still questioning Durant's clutch factor since I've seen him shrink when the pressure is at its highest
KD one of my fav players of all time, but Skip is cool with KD joining the Warriors who were 73-9 but criticize Lebron with joining the heat when they were just an average team the year prior? SMH
Can someone explain to me what is a super team? Sounds like more excuses for LBJ if the Cavs lose. He's the "best player in the world" with the defending champions riding w/ him. NO EXCUSES!!
Falcons Fan Extraordinaire I dunno if people are making excuses for him, and if they are there's no need. LeBron had what he needs, and he's gonna go up against a tough team. Golden State needs to win, at least for KDs legacy. Even if KD wins fans will tarnish it, but man if he loses imagine that backlash? Jeez
congratulations on being stupid. you don't need an explanation, you need glasses.
Did Skip forget about Karl Malone, Gary Payton going to the Lakers, or Charles Barkley going to the Rockets? To call someone misinformed yet he didn't bring that up. The Celtics weren't the first super team.
Kevin Durant will win 5 titles and go down as a top 10 player in history
Mr.Sauceman X what team will beat them?
Damon Simmons anything can happens maybe one may leave or serious injury god forbid
Kevin will never be top ten
Damon Simmons the cavs
michael jordan you're an idiot he's easily a top 2 player next to Lebron who's #1
I don't understand this:
LeBron fans defend him for leaving Cleveland, joining Miami and going back to Cleveland, but then when KD leaves OKC and heads to Golden State, they throw him under the bus and defend Russell Westbrook
CRAZY!
Of course LeBron fans are the biggest Hypocrites in sports history. They still wallowing about it today because the warriors took them rings from their king
To be fair, LeBron's team looks like middle schoolers whenever he sat out. But at the end of the day, they both left to win chips. Everyone forgets that James, Wade, and Bosh had been planning it for years and specifically set up all their contracts to end in 2010 years in advance, whereas for KD, it was a move he didnt consider until after the Warriors lost in 2016.
Lebron left a team who couldnt put the pieces together to BUILD a team in Miami that didnt get out of the first rd since 2006
KD left a contending team to JOIN a team that was 73-9, was down 3-1 and embarrass KD to come back and win in 7
Thats the difference
Your put 0 context in there
kyrie is better than Westbrook
raheem ur not smart are u?
raheem I'd take Kyrie over Westbrook any day. Especially if we talking about the finals
raheem westbrook is the truth. irving is good but westbrook is the king
u need to be drug test westbrook better than kyrie. i seen so many game kyrie don't show up and kyrie couldn't take his team to the playoff.
justin chen ask your mum anime fanboy
Totally Different! Building a team and making it is different. None of them where beat out by that team before joining.
Lol Skip saying GS beat the system: they were LUCKY MAN.
The big 3 in Boston is TOTALLY different than recent moves
Skip's point is the same exact thing that everybody is confusing with regards to KD. It's not the fact that Durant left, it's the fact that he went to the Warriors. KG and Ray Allen weren't rivals who had just lost to the Celtics before joining them. The Heat weren't a Cavs rival when LeBron went there in 2010. That's why people have such a problem with the move that Kevin Durant made. OKC was up 3-1 on the Warriors and were a 4th quarter choke in game 6 away from winning that series, and to up and leave and go to Golden State the summer after that just leaves the wrong impression to a lot of people.
so skip said durant could not win in okc so its the right move to go to GS..... But when lebron go to Miami skip hate lebron but skip do you think that lebron would have a ring if he didn't go to Miami I mean WTF Skip
Hate to break it you Skip, nobody's thinking "Kevin won a ring". They still think he's spineless & weak.
if durant wanted to beat gs he could have went to the clippers or the spurs (or he could have stayed, they were one game away from doing it). but he didnt want to beat gs, he just didnt want them to beat him so he joined them. thats cowardly
EXACTLY!! I've been saying that since I heard this talk. Doc and Pierce = hypocrite. Players want to play with good players period.
the first super team was when Moses Malone joined the 76ers after winning MVP and joining a top team in the east at the time
they are missing the point. when pp said he wasnt wired like that he was talking about that he would never join a team that just beat him badly a season ago. he said its like joining the bully that bullied u.....
That "WHAAAAT" at 2:55 lmfaoo
Man I'd like to have seen KD with the wizards. A high pass point guard like John Wall would have been a great fit for the scoring machine that is Kevin Durant. Think they would've transitioned into serious contenders.
Man I say that all da time KD's legacy would've been different playing with John Wall & Bradley Beal and they still had a chance to get Dwight Howard as a backup center once he left Houston because he was also a free agent in 2016, Golden State could've gotten Al Horford in free agency as well after losing to the Cavs they were going back to the finals in 2017 anyways! 🤷🏿♂️
As a Brooklyn Nets fan i disagree with Skip saying no one wants to see KD as a Net
Did they follow the NBA back then? It was a trade, the celtics had to give stuff up to create that team. Warriors gave up cap space to an already stacked team, with a 2x MVP, DPOY, and one of the best 2-way players in the league. KD also jumped ship to the team that beat them. The situation was so different its ridiculous that you even bring that up.
Miss these days
SAS nailed this topic better than the rest. KD is a wimp.
Pierce comparing KD's move to joining bullies that beat you is laughable. He wasn't beat up, he was beaten in a game. That's what it is in reality, a game.
When it all boils down KD is a grown man that made a decision about "HIS LIFE"!
Why does doc rivers care about Kevin Durant going to the warriors he needs to worry about how to get his team outside a first round in the playoffs
Still don't understand how people compare KD joining the Warriors to KG and Ray Allen joining Boston in 07'. Before KG and Allen went to Boston, they weren't even a playoff team. When KD signed with Golden State, they just beat the Thunder in the WCF AND WENT 73-9.
Shannon is 100% correct! we as fans talk about rings all day, but we criticize for the manner these players try to get them!
The fact that Skip will defend the 🐍Durant to discredit LeBron says a lot lol
This is what I have been saying in reality the added one fa on a team that was built organically
It’s funny kuz kd might beat Lebron on the nets 😂😂😂
The Truth has been spoken. I've said it for Months.
I used to really dislike KD for his decision, but now he's back to being one of my favorite players. When OKC blew the lead, so many people talked about how he needs a ring and he's gonna have to leave to get a ring, but then when he actually leaves and goes to the team with the best chance of getting a ring, he's hated
I actually agree with Skip for once. People act like KD going to the Warriors was a one sided deal, almost like he came up to them and just walked in the front door. The Warriors actively tried to recruit him, and can you blame them? When an MVP level talent is on the market and he just so happens to fill a role you were desperately lacking in your Finals loss, doesn't it make sense to pursue that? It was a mutually beneficial arrangement made by both parties. The Warriors got a significant upgrade to Harrison Barnes, while KD gets an opportunity to play unselfish basketball on a championship contender.
Ray Allen didnt "decide" to go to Boston Skip, he was traded there, as was KG. How is Paul hypocritical? Paul didn't hop on the bandwagon of the best team in NBA history after getting embarrassed by them.
If you go to Colin's interview on UA-cam with Austin Rivers you can hear the "WHAAT" from Shannon 😂