So is shaq and kareem despite being less SKILLFUL than players like Bird, Kidd or even reggie miller. Tall players generally aren't as skillful but have more dominance not always for example Hakeem and Dirk have alot of skill.
If given the choice to save either LeBron's life or a small child's life, Nick would go straight mouth-to-mouth on LeBron while some Mom screams MY BABY!!!!
Kaasi Mutanda- *Taps Mic* *Clears Throat* LADIES AND GENTLEMAN MY NAME IS NICK WRIGHT AND I AM THE ADVOCATE FOR THE MAN WHO IS THE ONE IN 5-1 to Tim Duncan Finals Record. THE BEAST INCARNATED, THE KING. LEBROOOON JAMES
The difference between Ray Allen's shot and Kerr's shot is that LeBron took the shot and missed. Ray Allen got the rebound off LeBron's miss and made the 3 to tie the game. Jordan did not miss. He drew the double team and threw a pass to a wide open Steve Kerr. If Ray missed, LeBron loses the championship. If Kerr missed, the Bulls would have gone into overtime in game 6. Its the same thing with Paxson in 1993. Jordan did not miss a shot to get bailed out by Paxson. And even if Paxson missed, the Bulls still had game 7. Ray Allen's shot is significantly more important to LeBron's legacy than Kerr/Paxson's shots.
Heat wouldnt even have been in a position to win the game if Lebron didnt have a 16 point 4th quarter vs spurs either.. but lets ignore that and just focus on the game winning shot.
Who made the 3 on the previous possession and cut the 5 point deficit in a finals elimination game with 1 minute to go to 2 points as part of his 16 point 4th quarter. LeBron was phenomenal down the stretch no disputing that
Stephen Biase its not that close jordan will power was amazing and his scoring but thats one aspect of the GAME. LeBron is clearly the best to eva do it. Best complete player LeBron and best scorer Wilt Chamberlain... Jordan the best to will his team to victory
I think people who get bent out of shape over misspelling a name are pansies. Same for those who get offended over their name getting mispronounced. It’s a damn name with no feelings. Say what you and spell it how you want even if it’s wrong. Unless it’s against the law it shouldn’t be a problem. I don’t have a problem with most things that aren’t against the law. They’re okay so let them happen.
Cris Carter says stop skipping over when Jordan walked away. So let's talk about it. In 1993, Jordan was in his absolute peak. He had just averaged 41 points, 8.5 rebounds and 6.3 assists in the Finals and won his third straight championship and Finals MVP. He had won 3 MVPs, Defensive Player of the year, 7 straight scoring titles, Rookie of the year, All Star MVP, 7 All NBA, 6 All Defense, 2 x Slam Dunk Champion. He had done it all. He was only 30 years old and still at his absolute athletic peak. Then his father got murdered and he chose to play baseball because it was his father's dream for him. It is the lowest possible argument for anyone to use that decision to try to honor his father's wish against Jordan. What about when he walked away in 1998? He had just won another 3 championships and 3 Finals MVPs, 2 more MVPs, 3 more scoring titles, 2 more All Star MVPs, 3 more All NBA, 3 and three more All Defensive teams. But the Bulls wanted to rebuild and Jordan wanted more championships. Jordan was a free agent and could have easily signed with the Lakers to play with Shaq and Kobe, Spurs to play with Duncan and Robinson, Utah and played with Stockton and Malone, Houston to play with Hakeem, Barkley and Pippen. Jordan could have gone to any of those teams and won 2-5 more championships depending on how long he played for. But unlike LeBron going to Miami, Jordan would have never even thought about joining two other superstars to chase more championships, because for Jordan the challenge and the competition was why he played.
jxn23 . Your skipping some things too. Let's talk about it. When he came back the first time, he got beat by Shaq and Magic. Don't want to hear about how he was away from the game, the man scored 55 at the garden and didn't even use the excuse himself. In addition, he got a year and a half to rest his body from the toll he was taking, which was big because he was the greatest and played hard. And don't say he didn't rest he played baseball please. Let's fast forward, did we forget his time in Washington? Yes that counts. He played didn't he? Whether u like it or not it counts, yes he was not the same but he didn't even have the miles LeBron has today. And again he had years off to rest again. In addition, I don't think his father was murdered randomnly. Jordan was a notorious gambler and sources have claimed he didn't pay a debt. Again I'm not 100% but it would make sense.
Mike S Can’t smooth it over. It’s the same, just way worse! As far as the Celtics, which ones? The ones of the 60’s NBA where there was about 8 teams?? Or the last OLD 3, in which they were not in the prime of their career??? Or the one in the 80’s which got their picks pretty much by drafts!!!??? Only person they traded for was Robert Parish, NOWHERE near a league MVP. And as far as KG, Ray Ray, and the Truth, look up the ages of when they decided to get together!!! DEFINITELY not in there prime!!! Know YOUR facts!!!
Mike S Lol, Brotha I actually enjoy ur points, that’s why I am responding.I hear you that players should have that freedom to join the teams they want. I hear you that you should position yourself with the right players for the best situation to win a championship. Where this gets sticky is to tip the scale too much in your favor. There are players that chase rings, then there are some that monopolize rings. (Right now I can’t place Lebron there, KD is there). And for competitive purposes, as a fan of basketball, it’s weak as a player.
Latvian mj was in college getting an education at 20 maybe lbj should ve did same might have developed some clutch gene getting a few ncaa tournaments under his belt
Moses Malone was in the 70s, Jordan didn’t go to the league out of highschool because NBA and David Stern didn’t allow players to come into the Pros out of highschool during Jordan’s draft generation. It was lifted in the late 80s early 90s.
@@lightscameraaction1575 27PPG When? As A Senior In High School? No Way His Competition Was Near LeBron's (Oak Hill, LeBron's Town High School Was Nationally Ranked). He Also Went From 13PTS To 20PTS A Game Which Shows That Jordan Was Rapidly Improving & As A Freshman Or Senior in Highschool Wasn't At His Level As A NBA Rookie. Maybe He Could've Been A Role Player Or A 6th Man But No One Compares To LeBron At 18 & Jordan Would've Never Won Rookie Of The Year & Would've Been Closer To Kobe His First Couple Years (Playing 10-20 Min A Game)
He was cut from the varsity as a 10 grader don’t think he was even a candidate to go pro... another person who speaks without all the facts... LeBron 10 grade cover of Sports illustrated 🤷🏽♂️
Sean Medellin some analysts. Nick Wright is extremely bias it's ridiculous. If all he's gonna bring up is stats then shouldn't Wilt or Kareem be the GOAT?
Maybe not when he was younger but he's been through everything now like he said he thinks he has nothing left to prove, I think that's a good mentality to have going in to the finals.
Paul Pierce is an awful basketball player. Vince Carter was always the better player. Pierce needed Garnett and Allen only reason he ever won anything.
@@adilrahman1204 did you just say Paul piecre was a bad player?You are either a bronsexaul,a biased Cavs fan or an idiot.Dude is a top ten small forward of all time and you can't deny that
One stat says it all 50 win teams eliminated in the postseason Kobe-24, Jordan-20,Lebron-8 enough said, 7 straight finals due to weak competition and not to mention he lost four times but theirs always an excuse for it
greatest point guard ever Magic Johnson and James Worthy , Clyde the Glide, MVP Charles Barkley, The Glove Gary Payton and Shawn Kemp, and one of the greatest dynamic duos of all time 2nd all time in scoring Karl Malone and 1st in assist and steals John Stockton. 8 hall of Famers
+Josue guzman Don't forget the Knicks the Spurs and Indiana and the Heat teams that were coached by HOF Pat Riley and also the way the game was alot more physical then it is now. Jordan by any imagination is the G.O.A.T in my book James isn't past Kobe yet
@@pizzabagelz1204 it's simply because Kobe was not a team player he hurt his team more than helped them. Before you disagree go check his stats in the finals. Having great single numbers don't make you great it just make you a single team player. Kobe was a great player but he is no LeBron as you have to understand this Kobe was a scorer and a great defender. Look at it this way look at James Harden and his numbers. Championships is a team win not a individual win. In Kobe situation he did his part but let's be honest who did he beat that can be compared to the warrior's or the spurs. That Dallas team is the same team that swept the Lakers so I'm not tryna hear that b.s. lol....
@D D You can't guarantee anything because it's impossible to change history and put LBJ on the 90s Bulls. The only thing guaranteed is that MJ never got swept in the Finals, never shot under 40% from the field in the Finals, and never averaged under 20 ppg in the Finals. Your King has done all those things.
@@mariahsingleton5034 His victim list in the Finals includes Magic Johnson, Karl Malone, John Stockton, Charles Barkley, Clyde Drexler, and Gary Payton. Plus, the Eastern Conference wasn't the complete joke that it was when LeBron played there.
@WO0 yEAHHH Scottie Pippen Averaged 16.1 ppg in his career and dennis rodman averaged 9, while dwade averaged 22 and chris bosh averaged 19 LEBRON NEEDED THE HELP
Nick actually made a good argument for MJ when he said Miller, Barkley and all those great players could never win a ring cuz of MJ. Can't say that about Lebron.
J. Abe PG13, Russ, Harden, D Rose, Melo, Amar’e S., Korver, Joe Johnson (atlanta AND Brooklyn), Al Horford, Giannis, Demar D. They are all future HOFs and their shots at rings were taken from them by LeBron.
Here's the thing... how many of those players teamed up to try to beat the Bulls? Because LeBron has spent his career losing to Big 3s (or GS who literally started an All-Star squad)
3 peats - 2 times. 6 championships - 6 times final appearances. Stayed with the same team and developed the team; added an defensive player, not 2 prime time scorers.
lebron added 2 prime scorers? He went to Miami with dwade in his last year of his prime and Chris Bosh wasn’t in his prime either lol he had health issues as well. “Oh but he has ray allen too” wow nice 10 ppg so why are we acting like he played with prime players? The only one is kyrie. And why aren’t we talking about Jordan’s first 4-5 years in the league? What’d he do? Score a bunch and not win. Bron took a terrible cavs team to the finals in his first 4-5 years
@@nickirvin548 Without Ray Allen LeBron would have had 3 rings instead of 4... And before you say "Well Steve Kerr..." That was a game 6. With the Bulls up 3 to 2. If Kerr missed that shot there's game 7. There would not have been a game 7 if Ray Allen didn't hit that clutch shot after LeBron bricked his attempt.
@Nick Irvin 2010 Wade averaged 25.5, 2011 Wade averaged 22.1, 2012 Wade averaged 21.2 and was an all-star all of those years. 2011 Finals Wade averaged 26.5, 7 and 5. Bosh 2010 averaged 18.7 and 8, 2011 averaged 18 and 8, 2012 averaged 16.6 and 7. Bosh also an all-star all of those years.
Frandy Brown The problem is Jordan fans have been doing the same for Mike for years now. Jordan had his struggles in College and the NBA, but fans don't want to debate about it, they all act like Jordan played 91-93 and 95-98 and every thing else didn't happen...I could make a list so damn long about Mikes failures as a player and teammate but why? Clearly we can only bash LeBron for losing and failure but bring up mikes and dudes get all in their feelings.
Marc NY Yet no one wants to discuss Jordan's UNC teams after Worthy left and they were embarrassed the next two years in the Tourny when he had Kenny Smith, Sam Perkins and Brad Dougherty....no one wants to discuss how Jordan was 1-9 in the playoffs the beginning of his NBA career until they got Pippen, Grant and Phil coaching.... LeBron can't win them all and Jordan couldn't either.
These fox sports 1 idiots think LBJ broke up the OKC Thunder like lmao what are you smoking, The Thunder went to 2 more conference finals and were competitors until after last year's loss to GS, if anything Steph and GS broke them. Also these guys say Jordan only beat Pistons and Lakers when they were old, like bruh you think LeBron beat Pistons and Celtics when they were in their prime like bruh Pistons were pretty old when LBJ beat them and Celtics were already old when put together and was well past their prime when LBJ joined up with Wade and Bosh and beat them
Lebron didn’t even know how to post up when he came into the NBA. It took him 9years to where it was a natural occurrence of him knowing how to score without running people over. The 3 off seasons he spent with Hakeem. Jordan didn’t need to have a old legend teach him the game.
Swag King18 Yeah, that's kind of the point. He's acting like the Celtics were nothing to LeBron when they were the ones who forced him to team up with two other superstars.
And ignore when Jordan whines to David Stern about the Bad Boy Pistons which made the league soft? You can't layer that blemish on Jordan's cement and expect me not to bring it up.
Matthew Moscotto DC dont forget they couldnt beat lebron without getting together so of course they beat him ...it was just him but when he got help that was it with the celtics
Took one of the best big 3s of all time to stop young lebron with nobody else on his squad. Bet your happy someone left the east. Maybe celtics can make the finals again. 😎
Bruh his first time in Cleveland lebron had no help😂 and he still took them to the finals twice. His second time he actually had help and he took them to the finals 4 more times and had to play one of the best teams of all time. And he beat a 73-9 team
Here's the main difference between Michael and Lebron... When you looked into Michael's eyes, you knew you were f...ked... There was no quit in Michael... I love Lebron but he can disappear
+Mike S atleast MJ stayed with the team during bad times lol and he got pippen and rodman lebron needed dwade bosh ray allen klove and kyrie to win also pat riley and lebron is a ring chaser this is about to be what his 4 team he's going to lol MJ the goat
Jordan LeBron convo is not a discussion, LeBron Kareem is not a discussion, LeBron Bill Russel not a discussion, LeBron will never be top five, guy playing against Victor Oladipo, Kyle Lowery, and Jalen Brown, then quits in the finals! Let’s also not forget LeBron is constantly chasing Jordan and Kareem’s stats. LeBron is very conscious of that because this is a statistic/analytic era where you can go a day without hearing about averages and efficiency ratings etc etc. Jordan Magic Russel Kareem all about destroying to win. Love BJ Armstrong talk about Jordan’s mentality of always trying to keep thinking the score was 0-0. Bottom line LeBron can rack up all the stats he wants. Dude will never be in the convo! Never! Not a discussion
Cowherd made a really stupid point by comparing Ray Allen's shot to Paxson or Kerr shots, Jordan never even faced an elimination game in the Finals, lol. If Ray's shot does not go in, Lebron loses! Jordan is so much better than Lebron, it's not even funny.
If not for these shots Jordan would have faced 2 elimination games bro , and you never know maybe he would have lost them . So no that's not a stupid point and Jordan isn't so much better than LeBron , he's better but not 'so much' better .
It wasn't a stupid point, but it wasn't a great one either. Miami was trailing 3-2, and if Ray Allen's shot doesn't go in, Miami loses. If Kerr or Paxons shot doesn't go in the series isn't over. It is tied 3-3 and you can't tell me Jordan's Bulls wouldn't have been favored in a game 7, so there is a difference between the two
MaSSaD 98 yes but ray allen shot saved miami from elimination. The reason isn't a good point is that if the shot wouldn't go in the series was tied 3-3
3-6 with a lot of triple double I guess that makes Russell Westbrook the goat since that's all that matters LeBron never average a triple double for a season let alone two
That's is because as high as they rate LeBron they didn't expect him to win. Just like they got all new players that LeBron wanted. All-star for dirt cheap. Got 82 games to prepare yet they still expect LeBron to lose. Then the loses don't count because GS actually does the work. They play hard all season and all playoffs and people hate them from winning.
James Harden Literally not a single team Jordan faced was worth anything. One single team had 2 hall of famers and not even a decent role player. LeBron was faced a team with 4 hall of famers twice.
Paron Zubalon the Lakers in 91 was loaded. the Blazers in 92 was loaded. The Suns in 93 loaded. The Supersonic in 96 loaded. the jazz in 97 and 98 loaded foh
geez. They have a low standard for the GOAT. GOAT is supposed to be as perfect as it can be. What's more perfect than 6-0? You'll seriously take 3-6 over 6-0?
@The R. And yet... when everyone describes Jordan's accomplishments they always mention All-Defense... but I guess defense and rebounding don't matter for anyone else. And strange that to diminish Bill Russell you bring up lack of competition and the caliber of his teammates. Can't do that for Jordan though... 'tis forbidden!
Xzei MJ was a DPOY. Lead the league in steals. Also MJ was the first player to have more than 200 steals and 100 blocks in a season. There are only 3 players who achieved that to this day and MJ did it twice. They played less games before and had only 8 teams in the league.
Jordan was always the favourite in every series because he had the best teammates, Lebron has always been the underdog...even in Miami. Lebron is SUPPOSE to lose to G.S. Jordan never played a team like G.S......So thats why When Cavs came back from 3-1 against the greatest team of alltime...73-9...people start considering Lebron the GOAT. So LEbron losing to Golden State means nothing to his legacy...He'll lose to a 73-9 team that added Kevin Durant and a team that swept the playoffs so far. Lebron is the HUGE underdog. That being said, If Lebron beats this team AGAIN with DURANT. It's a wrap, Lebron has to be considered the best of all time by everyone.
King Trawal see again win or lose he's the goat somehow. His 3-5 final record somehow means zilch. The fact that two of his wins he needed huge shots from Allen and kyrie. Again that means zilch. Jordan gets reamed for losing to Bird and Cousy as a 23 year old with no help. But LeBron on a team with 3 all stars and one of the games best point guards cant be blamed if they lose to golden state.
Ray Allen's shot came when the Heat were on the brink of elimination. Security was already taping off the floor. He DID save LeBron. Paxson's shot came in game 6 with the Bulls leading the series 3-2. So how did Paxson "save" Jordan?
These guys are dumb, they know nothing about basketball. They overrate LeBron so much that they confidently sat there in their seats and said Cavs in 5 like the dummies they are
Everyone chooses to play with LeBRon yet his teammates always suck, he makes his team mates better yet 5 loses in the finals. 5 loses = not ready for the competition, weak eastern conference. he doesn't draw enough talent to win in the finals, Jordan 6/6. when Jordan was ready he was ready. when LeBRon is ready he goes 3/8.
ALEX with his logic, Robert horry is better than mj. All he says in support of mj being the goat is having a perfect finals record, Robert horry has a better finals record. Do I believe he is better than mj? Of course not. But horry is the reason that rings and finals record is irrelevant. They’re team accomplishments. But if you’re going to use rings/finals record, you can’t just use them to compare two people. They either count for everyone or no one
Marc Rodriguez MJ didn't start dominating till the age of 28 when he finally won his first ring.. that was after magic and bird were out of their prime..
Ben Smith fair enough they have earned the right to give that opinion because they are great players, also they are not as obviously biased as nick wright is
Johnny Keane lebron is the greatest and most efficient player to ever play in the NBA and it's not even close. NOT ONE PERSON other than lebron can do what he's doing in year 15. Jordan is overrated he couldn't even get to any of them finals without pippen literally. Also he won all his rings against terrible teams and a a 90s league full of expansions teams also he was getting destroyed in the 80s lmao
KxngJay How's lebron the most efficient player if KD is the most efficient scorer in nba finals history? 😂 Yes "most efficient player" involves efficent scoring and that isn't lebron 😂 The name of the game is basketball for a reason. Not reboundball.
dadillonful I know ur comment is 6 months old but lmao “look up facts before u look like an idiot online” he says that’s literally what u just did u hypocrite. Jordan shot almost 50% FG in the clutch(5 seconds or less in the game) and Lebron shoots 20% FG in the clutch SO research and get ur FACTS straight before u make urself look like an IDIOT like u just did. Lebron isn’t clutch
@Khuns Traveler is having the biggest meltdown of all time in 2011 clutcher than the guy who stole the ball,dribbled up the court and had a iso mid range to win the championship less clutch then that?Didn't think so.
Nick is so annoying...the logic in this if lebron not start so early he couldnt pass mj in score...and if mj focus on points and assist or in his stats he probably beat jabbar in points...mj focus is to win...thats all
@@ATL1995 what he said is that MJs main goal was scoring. He never tried to go for assist or other stats. And LBJ focused on all other stats and still passed MJ.
@@ATL1995 I completely agree with you. It's about votes, But I believe that it's about Eras. The Era before Jordan believed that no one could/or has passed Kareem. The same will happen with Jordan and LeBron I believe
@Kenneth Erickson Hey! I missed you! You REALLY watch and comment on every LeBron video don't you? What a strange obsession you have! Also, LeBron passed Jordan on fewer shots. But... let's not count that.
LBJ never been hurt b/c he flops and the NBA now is soft. No hand checking, technicals given out for taunting a player. Back in the Jordan era players were getting roughed up and it was normal.
cicirunner Honestly handchecking would not have stopped Lebron. Yes NBA is less physical but handchecking never stopped good players. Think about it could Jordan have handchecked Iverson when he go crossed up.
Jordan never had to face today’s “zone” type strong side overload defensive schemes that make one on one much harder. Because of the illegal defense rule Jordan got to go one on one all day long. Read about illegal defense if u think I’m crazy
@lloganmusic it's pg like all other sports of course sports on the 80s & 90s was harder bc kids today can watch sports anywhere back then the world wasn't as advanced as it is now I personally think MJ the best in his generation not the whole time the league has existed
lebron = wannabe goat, lmao he even copies the real goat by wearing his number. Jus accept reality, bron will never be on Jordans level. Thats why he has to resort to off court politics to keep himself in the goat conversation. Because on the court he cant come close to being as good as Jordan. lebron hasnt even won a DPOY yet. What a joke to compare lebron to the Greatest player to ever play the game. MICHAEL JORDAN! again jus accept reality.
Lebron's all around impact on the court might be as great as Jordan's was. But, Air Jordan is a mythical figure that Lebron or anybody else is very unlikely to ever overcome. Paul Pierce and most players that grew up over the last 25-30 years all idolized Jordan. They all wanted to be like Mike. He was and is their hero.
Michael is the GOAT and Kobe is Goat Jr. hands down! They both are more clutch and they both have that killer instinct to take over a game to make sure they win. They are both too competitive to give up. They also and this is the most important aspect that everybody skips and that is both Michael and Kobe brought championships to the their respective teams. They didn't leave and they made people around them better! Lebron is a better all around player but he chases championships. He don't bring them to him. He changes teams to get success so how can you make the people around you better when you run off to another team. Also how do you make people better when you are constantly asking for your chosen lineup! Until Lebron can stay put with one team with a solid core then he will never be in MY GOAT conversation!!!! #TooLateNow
While I agree Michael is the best I've seen, it's an opinion--not hands down. You can't prove anyone who doesn't agree with you wrong. There's maybe 6-10 players we can generally agree are in the conversation. Anyone can cherry pick stats to support who they think is the best from there. But it really just comes down to who you like the best. Personally I'd put Kareem, LBJ and maybe a few others ahead of Kobe.
While your stat is accurate, your reality is a cherry picked one. Wilt Chamberlain has more 30 pt / 30 rebound games than the rest of every single NBA player ever combined. Think about that. He also has by far the most 50 point games. Does that make him the best? There are so many things that go into the best ever. Fake news doesn't apply when people reference actual stats. The issue is that people cherry pick stats to prove their opinion-as you do here. The media loves to perpetuate the GOAT debate because it's an unwinnable argument. They make money off it. There is no-nor will there ever be--100% consensus on the goat in the way we can all agree who won WWII--and so in a way there really isn't one. What there is instead is a Mount Olympus of great players in the conversation of GOAT. Michael, Lebron, and Kobe are all among them, as are Kareem, Russell and few others. People will debate these players ad nauseum.
Um, the Ray Allen shot was made possible by a great rebound and pass by Bosh not Lebron. While Jordan assisted Paxon and Kerr perfectly, making the right play at the right time to will his team to victory. Lebron bricked. No comparison
You do realize Jordan was known for making the winning play right? Not playing great up until the end and then bricking. It's a big difference. I'm not saying I could do it. Jordan could. He was the greatest winner in history. It was awesome. Lebron is also great. He's nowhere near as clutch as MJ and his finals records shows it
Look 1 thing Jordan has over labron is he never left his team to in order 2 win a championship u have even give jordan more credit for winning a championships then retiring then come back and win more championships who does that oh yeah the goat
+The Slick Nic your comment is wrong. Look at Jordan's teams BEFORE Pippen and Grant or Rodman. Mike's teams were awful BUT he didn't leave his team.. Unlike Lebum
Bruh Pippen in the early years put up garbage role player numbers and Jordan still took them to ECF and pushed the Bad Boys 6 games. It wasn't until 1990 that Pippen became an all star when after Jordan had pushed Pippen really hard over the years and transformed him into a star player. And seriously dude Mo Williams wasn't his best player, seriously hate it when they say that cuz they completely disregard a Shaq who was an all star the year before and Antwan Jamison averaging 16 PPG and 7 RPG
greg zoller he won the NCAA champion the same way Tristian Thompson won a ring in 2016. The MOP went to James Worthy and Jordan not only never won the NCAA tournament he also never won the ACC tournament nor did he make the ACC finals.
@@MrSlashblade That's a damn lie, MJ had 16 points 9 rebs. and hit the game winner in the NCAA tournament title game, he also won 3 ACC Regular Season Titles, 1 ACC Tournament title, ACC Freshmen of the year, ACC Player of the year, and National player of the year, go learn basketball history before you say something that stupid again.
Jason Howell Worthy had 28 points in that game, Worthy won the MOP of the Tournament all of Jordan’s team success came in his first year where he was the third scoring option. After Worthy left, he won the division but never the ACC tournament by himself and never even got his team to the finals. So let’s not even talk about the NCAA tourney. So yea when Jordan was the captain he never led North Carolina to anything notable, not even a final four and the 84 team had Kenny Smith Sam Perkins Brad Daughtery all top ten picks with brad being the number one overall pick. Jordan college career is highly overrated and is at best a top 5 Tar Heel but no where near even a top 5 college player of all time.
@@MrSlashblade Have you ever watched the 1982 NCAA title game? Did u see Ralph Sampson in college? Do you know Kenny Smith broke his hand and that was one of the reasons they didn't win the title in 1984? First of all there was no shot clock or 3pt line when MJ played in college or his stats would have been higher, second Sampson who played for Virginia was a 7'4" center who was a two time College player of the year and Jordan was 4-1 vs him, and by the way the only loss is when they had James Worthy, and third Dean Smith ran a system at UNC which no one player could completely dominate, don't get me wrong I love Dean but sometimes he would be hard pressed to change game plans during a game, and last yes Worthy was MOP of the Final Four, and yes he scored 28 points to lead UNC in scoring, but when clutch time came who made the shot to win it? Worthy? No Jordan did. PS Jordan's record at UNC was 88-13, 56-11 without James, in the ACC no team was better record wise, look it up.
Jason Howell you see the play before the shot on the defensive end?you talk about the other two players Daughtery and Perkins, you Michael terrible last game 13 points 6/14 I think he was also a reason why they lost, did you know there was a 3 point line when Jordan played infact the ACC had the closest 3 point line and the only reason it wasn’t recorded was because different conferences had different ranges from 3 til I think 87? Did you know Sampson still got his in 83? Did you do any research before spewing nonsense. Is no the answer to most of these questions except this one?
Nick is going to lose all credibility as a commentator if he keeps up this non-sense about Lebron being better than Michael Jordan. Why is it so important that people want to say that Lebron is better. MJ is the goat and will always be the goat. Quit with the comparisons because it ain't even close.
Paxson and Kerr didn't bail out Jordan, there still could've been a game 7 since they were up 3-2. And they were up 3-2. If ray misses its over since they were down 3-2.
Jordan was double teamed and made a play to a wide open John Paxson, and the game was tied and the series wasn't on the line. LeBron MISSED the game tying 3 with the game on line and the series on the line, and Bosh rebounded it was passed it to Ray Allen for 3. How is that the same thing?
Randell Alderson look at the some of the team's LeBron drug to some of those finals. With that being said Kode is the 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
john cates “pippen without Jordan...nothin!” So how is it that the bulls lost two less games when mj retired the first time, with pippen being the best two way player that year. They also made it to the conference finals game 7, without Jordan. Damn, pippen is nothing without Jordan.
Randell Alderson Exactly, these idiots so in love with LeBron, they don't realize that he's went to 8 finals only won 3, and in 2 of those wins, he had a shot by Ray Allen to win one and a Draymond Green suspension and bugot, iguodala injury and a Kyrie 3 pointer to win one, this guy is waaaay overrated Let's see what they're going to say if he don't even make it to the finals this year
Nick, Colin, 2 of LeBron James' titles were thanks to literally the 2 most clutch shots in finals history made by Ray Allen and kyrie. so not only did LeBron join a super team TWICE to get only 3 rings, but two of them required Ray and kyrie to do what they did. it really takes a lot away from LeBron. he's a beast no doubt ! but his titles aren't all.that impressive. so the kobe and mj convo is ridiculous to me .
Colin last I checked we missed 4yrs of his prime so say what you want we all know 13yrs in the league to 13yrs in the league Mike is far better than labron!
Lebron James has more Finals shooting under 40% than Jordan's has TOTAL PLAYOFF SERIES shooting under 40% Lebron has shot over 50% in 1 Final to Jordan's 3 Lebron has averaged 30+ in 1 Final, at 39% FG. Jordan has 5 times, 3 times over 50% and never under 42% MJ has a higher playoff 3-pt % and much higher Finals 3-pt% Lebron 6-8 250 only averaged over 1.0 blocks per game 3 times Jordan 6-6 195 averaged over 1.0 blocks per games 4 times & averaged 1.6 Jordan shot 50% as a Rookie & averaged 28 Lebron as a Rookie shot 41% & averaged 20 Jordan averaged more than 2.0 steals per game Ten times Lebron averaged more than 2.0 steals per game Once Jordan averaged 30 PPG while shooting 50% FIVE times Lebron ZERO times Jordan shot 80% from the free throw line 12 times Lebron ZERO times If You Noticed, I never mentioned 6 for 6 in the Finals with 6 Finals MVP's
dialgafrost010 dont argue LeBron lovers with stats. its outrageous. lebron has also won 3 finals by the time he was 32. don't count the 5 additional years he has playing in the league over jordan at this point. LeBron is in the conversation but he hasn't passed him yet people. he may never.
dialgafrost010 name a stats Jordan good in other than scoring and did Jordan lead the finals series in every single statistical category for both teams against the best team in the world I'll wait...
Ben Smith lbj always had help wtf oh he lost lmao..the comment dumb...mj only had 1 all star 1 hall of famer an a dam good rebounder an went 6 for 6 lmao...
Ben Smith Jordan never choked like lechoke in 2007,2011,2014,2015 and 2017,2017 Cavs could makes a comeback,but lechoke choke away the game in game 3,nuff said
Do you agree with Paul Pierce or Nick Wright?
Colin Cowherd nick
Colin Cowherd Nick al the way
Colin Cowherd
I dont like Pauls nickname but he speakin The truth!
Nick
Colin Cowherd defeintly nick
The way they say cement is bothering me
It's like saying caramel. Is it KARL-a-mel
or care-A-mel
haha "SEMEN-t"
"His Semen-t is still wet". Brutal
Nicolas Rivas lmfaoo
Thank you I was thinking the same thing
lol "He was so angry he couldn't even spell LeBron right"
more like he is paul pierce so why would he care about spelling some guys name right?
MoXy cause that guys name is lebron. paul pierce has never even sniffed lebrons level
in your opinion. Peirce was more skilled IN MY OPINION. Lebron is just big and athletic with a point guard mentality.
MoXy and a top 3 player of all time. paul isnt even top 25
So is shaq and kareem despite being less SKILLFUL than players like Bird, Kidd or even reggie miller. Tall players generally aren't as skillful but have more dominance not always for example Hakeem and Dirk have alot of skill.
If given the choice to save either LeBron's life or a small child's life, Nick would go straight mouth-to-mouth on LeBron while some Mom screams MY BABY!!!!
Marvel Antonio
I'm not sure it would be mouth-to-mouth. I'm sure Nick's mouth would be on another external body part of James, though.
Nick would eat lebron up from head to toe cuz he loves black guys that are much much bigger then him
Marvel Antonio idiotic analogy
jon Johnson
Sounds like you need a pair of knee pads whenever you're around LeBron.
Hahahaha
I like how Chris is trying to discredit Jordan's wizard years, THE MAN DROPPED 50 at age 39-40
Averaged 21 points at 40
@@keithlarsuel586 also MJ broke Ribs when dropping 21 points.
@@Suaveeightfive facts man I'm tired of these people not understanding the difference between MJ and everyone else he was a killer like no other!!
Kobe dropped 60 his last game
@@zoomdoof6107 Ahh yes... the "Everyone stand around and watch Kobe shoot" game.
nick wright is the paul heyman of lebron
Kaasi Mutanda- *Taps Mic* *Clears Throat* LADIES AND GENTLEMAN MY NAME IS NICK WRIGHT AND I AM THE ADVOCATE FOR THE MAN WHO IS THE ONE IN 5-1 to Tim Duncan Finals Record. THE BEAST INCARNATED, THE KING. LEBROOOON JAMES
Jason Bryant lmao
Jason Bryant applause to you lol
Broccckkkk Lesssnnnaarrr!!!
MY CLIANT LEBROOOOOON JAMES!!! WILL DESTROY THE LITTLE MAN NAME STEPHEN CERRY AND TAKE HIM TO DUNK CITY!!
The difference between Ray Allen's shot and Kerr's shot is that LeBron took the shot and missed. Ray Allen got the rebound off LeBron's miss and made the 3 to tie the game. Jordan did not miss. He drew the double team and threw a pass to a wide open Steve Kerr.
If Ray missed, LeBron loses the championship. If Kerr missed, the Bulls would have gone into overtime in game 6.
Its the same thing with Paxson in 1993. Jordan did not miss a shot to get bailed out by Paxson. And even if Paxson missed, the Bulls still had game 7.
Ray Allen's shot is significantly more important to LeBron's legacy than Kerr/Paxson's shots.
Heat wouldnt even have been in a position to win the game if Lebron didnt have a 16 point 4th quarter vs spurs either.. but lets ignore that and just focus on the game winning shot.
Who made the 3 on the previous possession and cut the 5 point deficit in a finals elimination game with 1 minute to go to 2 points as part of his 16 point 4th quarter. LeBron was phenomenal down the stretch no disputing that
Stephen Biase its not that close jordan will power was amazing and his scoring but thats one aspect of the GAME. LeBron is clearly the best to eva do it. Best complete player LeBron and best scorer Wilt Chamberlain... Jordan the best to will his team to victory
Reggie Green Chamberlain is not the greatest scorer of all time...
lnd1998 lebron phenomenal down the stretch... really? thats comedy right there.
He must forgot that the Celtics is the reason LeBron left Cleveland in the first place
Teaming up with another Top-5 player and another Top-15 player in a mercenary fashion will tend to do that......
Jonathan Straka Celtics had a big 3 too tho
Let's not for get KG,Allen,Paul, first BiG in the new Era With Rondo
Kelley Brown u must forgot Boston was formed to stop lebron
Anteja Butler they were formed to win, not for to pass lebron specifically
He actually pre tweeted “LA”bron before LAbron was a thing
I think people who get bent out of shape over misspelling a name are pansies. Same for those who get offended over their name getting mispronounced. It’s a damn name with no feelings. Say what you and spell it how you want even if it’s wrong. Unless it’s against the law it shouldn’t be a problem. I don’t have a problem with most things that aren’t against the law. They’re okay so let them happen.
Paul pierce : what do you mean I'm not the best with twitter Kristine?
Kristine: are you threatening me. You are clearly threatening me!
Stay in yo lane!
DLO BROWN 😂😂😂 omfg
This video isn't even on Kristine. Grow up bro
Obama: (starts flapping his hands like a feminine baby)
oscarmand2 how about you stay In Your lane
Cris Carter says stop skipping over when Jordan walked away. So let's talk about it. In 1993, Jordan was in his absolute peak. He had just averaged 41 points, 8.5 rebounds and 6.3 assists in the Finals and won his third straight championship and Finals MVP. He had won 3 MVPs, Defensive Player of the year, 7 straight scoring titles, Rookie of the year, All Star MVP, 7 All NBA, 6 All Defense, 2 x Slam Dunk Champion. He had done it all. He was only 30 years old and still at his absolute athletic peak.
Then his father got murdered and he chose to play baseball because it was his father's dream for him. It is the lowest possible argument for anyone to use that decision to try to honor his father's wish against Jordan.
What about when he walked away in 1998? He had just won another 3 championships and 3 Finals MVPs, 2 more MVPs, 3 more scoring titles, 2 more All Star MVPs, 3 more All NBA, 3 and three more All Defensive teams.
But the Bulls wanted to rebuild and Jordan wanted more championships. Jordan was a free agent and could have easily signed with the Lakers to play with Shaq and Kobe, Spurs to play with Duncan and Robinson, Utah and played with Stockton and Malone, Houston to play with Hakeem, Barkley and Pippen. Jordan could have gone to any of those teams and won 2-5 more championships depending on how long he played for.
But unlike LeBron going to Miami, Jordan would have never even thought about joining two other superstars to chase more championships, because for Jordan the challenge and the competition was why he played.
jxn23 . Your skipping some things too. Let's talk about it. When he came back the first time, he got beat by Shaq and Magic. Don't want to hear about how he was away from the game, the man scored 55 at the garden and didn't even use the excuse himself. In addition, he got a year and a half to rest his body from the toll he was taking, which was big because he was the greatest and played hard. And don't say he didn't rest he played baseball please. Let's fast forward, did we forget his time in Washington? Yes that counts. He played didn't he? Whether u like it or not it counts, yes he was not the same but he didn't even have the miles LeBron has today. And again he had years off to rest again. In addition, I don't think his father was murdered randomnly. Jordan was a notorious gambler and sources have claimed he didn't pay a debt. Again I'm not 100% but it would make sense.
He was banned from the nba because he was giving them a bad image not that he retired by his will or anything else
Mike S Henceforth, the reason why he can’t beat Golden State cause he started it!!!!! Just ask Kevin Durant.
Mike S Can’t smooth it over. It’s the same, just way worse! As far as the Celtics, which ones? The ones of the 60’s NBA where there was about 8 teams?? Or the last OLD 3, in which they were not in the prime of their career??? Or the one in the 80’s which got their picks pretty much by drafts!!!??? Only person they traded for was Robert Parish, NOWHERE near a league MVP. And as far as KG, Ray Ray, and the Truth, look up the ages of when they decided to get together!!! DEFINITELY not in there prime!!! Know YOUR facts!!!
Mike S Lol, Brotha I actually enjoy ur points, that’s why I am responding.I hear you that players should have that freedom to join the teams they want. I hear you that you should position yourself with the right players for the best situation to win a championship. Where this gets sticky is to tip the scale too much in your favor. There are players that chase rings, then there are some that monopolize rings. (Right now I can’t place Lebron there, KD is there). And for competitive purposes, as a fan of basketball, it’s weak as a player.
Yeah compare 41 yr old MJ old to 32 yr old LBJ lmfao
Ahnold Short exactly they're pathetic
Ahnold Short you have to take the whole career into account
but hes thr goat.. wizarfs miss playoff
Well, compare 20 year old Lebron to 20 year old MJ if you like.
Latvian mj was in college getting an education at 20 maybe lbj should ve did same might have developed some clutch gene getting a few ncaa tournaments under his belt
Moses Malone was in the 70s, Jordan didn’t go to the league out of highschool because NBA and David Stern didn’t allow players to come into the Pros out of highschool during Jordan’s draft generation. It was lifted in the late 80s early 90s.
I don’t think Jordan was good enough either in High School. He didn’t develop his talents as quickly as Lebron did
Thanks, i didnt know this and I cant believe these so called analysts didn't know this
@@xwasp5585 Jordans sir year he avg 27ppg he started on the USA gold metal team 2yrs later. He was ready as much as LeBron buddy
@@lightscameraaction1575 27PPG When? As A Senior In High School? No Way His Competition Was Near LeBron's (Oak Hill, LeBron's Town High School Was Nationally Ranked). He Also Went From 13PTS To 20PTS A Game Which Shows That Jordan Was Rapidly Improving & As A Freshman Or Senior in Highschool Wasn't At His Level As A NBA Rookie. Maybe He Could've Been A Role Player Or A 6th Man But No One Compares To LeBron At 18 & Jordan Would've Never Won Rookie Of The Year & Would've Been Closer To Kobe His First Couple Years (Playing 10-20 Min A Game)
He was cut from the varsity as a 10 grader don’t think he was even a candidate to go pro... another person who speaks without all the facts... LeBron 10 grade cover of Sports illustrated 🤷🏽♂️
players and ex-players say jordan
analysts say Lebron
and analysts are much more reliable
Sean Medellin some analysts. Nick Wright is extremely bias it's ridiculous. If all he's gonna bring up is stats then shouldn't Wilt or Kareem be the GOAT?
players even say they would take kobe ahead of lebron
id take the takes of players before i ever take it from analysts. Especially ones that have never played the game of basketball in the NBA
Rawle Springer same here bro... I love all three players but I respect the opinions of players more than I do analysts
Nick wright has never played a sport in his life why do ppl listen to him lmao
That same reason y'all listen to idiots who say KD move to golden state isn't cheating
Hegotkickz 😂😂😂
He is great ANALyst
Lol absolutely right
I don't listen to him as a professional I listen to him as a stand up comedian
Why are they pronouncing cement as "see-meant"?
Michael Kapelis They trying to act smart. Like everyone in the history have mankind has pronounced it wrong. They're teaching us the right way.
Michael Kapelis called an accent. google it
It's not called an accent, it's called mispronouncing a word. Cement-"sah-meant" not "see-meant"
Michael Kapelis called an accent. google it.
I heard jayz say see meant in the song he did with mariah carey. So i guess people say it both ways
I watched this just so I could laugh at Nick Wright's hair plugs now
He's the greatest physical speciman ever. I don't think he mentally as strong as Jordan tho.
Maybe not when he was younger but he's been through everything now like he said he thinks he has nothing left to prove, I think that's a good mentality to have going in to the finals.
omegadelta phoenix didn't Jordan punch a teammate ?
Didn't Jordan quit the game twice? Not to mention Jordan didn't have to deal with social media and hater culture
NY101jah exactly....best specimen ever along with Wilt Chamberlain
jabriljamal quit 3 times to be exact, but never quit in a game like LBJ did in the Mavs final.
So we gone act the Celtics wasn't the reason he went to Miami
damariun wilson thank u
I'm so sick of hearing about LeBron
Master Of The Craft I just hate the Jordan comparison mentioned all the time
Thank you Paul Pierce; you really are *The TRUTH*
Jordan’s the best basketball player ⛹️ in the history of the league
MJ>LBJ
Paul Pierce is an awful basketball player. Vince Carter was always the better player. Pierce needed Garnett and Allen only reason he ever won anything.
@Thomas Sankarado you make jokes here since you can't make it on comedy central?
@@adilrahman1204 did you just say Paul piecre was a bad player?You are either a bronsexaul,a biased Cavs fan or an idiot.Dude is a top ten small forward of all time and you can't deny that
No he's not
Mj went to college and got cut in high school since we talking stats LBJ been a winner and when Mike played they were not as athletic as they are now
One stat says it all 50 win teams eliminated in the postseason Kobe-24, Jordan-20,Lebron-8 enough said, 7 straight finals due to weak competition and not to mention he lost four times but theirs always an excuse for it
greatest point guard ever Magic Johnson and James Worthy , Clyde the Glide, MVP Charles Barkley, The Glove Gary Payton and Shawn Kemp, and one of the greatest dynamic duos of all time 2nd all time in scoring Karl Malone and 1st in assist and steals John Stockton. 8 hall of Famers
+Josue guzman Don't forget the Knicks the Spurs and Indiana and the Heat teams that were coached by HOF Pat Riley and also the way the game was alot more physical then it is now. Jordan by any imagination is the G.O.A.T in my book James isn't past Kobe yet
"what great teams did Jordan beat in the Finals??" hahahahaha that made me laugh
Josue guzman dumbass😂
Josue guzman Lebron is at 13
Bruh it’s pronounced SA-MENT!! This is an SNL skit waiting to happen.. 💀
Nick Wright trashing the Celtics & Pierce, is like a politician making fun of a decorated army veteran.
Laringo flamingo not really. Pierce is a bitter JOKE
W 😂
They won ONE RING... and it took 3 HoFs and Rondo to do it. Not Duncan's fault he kept smacking KG around.
4 years later, Nick has done more with his career with his talents than Paul Pierce did with his career and his talents… Nick is the army veteran.
Paul pierce decorated army veteran!? 😂😂😂 you and him stretching that one ring sooo bad 😭😭😭
Kobe is better than LeBron.
Why aren't we talking Kobe vs MJ?
Because the league and the media have always hated Kobe
I agree with you,but it's because Kobe is just Jordan,but slightly worse at everything except three point shooting
@@pizzabagelz1204 it's simply because Kobe was not a team player he hurt his team more than helped them. Before you disagree go check his stats in the finals. Having great single numbers don't make you great it just make you a single team player. Kobe was a great player but he is no LeBron as you have to understand this Kobe was a scorer and a great defender. Look at it this way look at James Harden and his numbers. Championships is a team win not a individual win. In Kobe situation he did his part but let's be honest who did he beat that can be compared to the warrior's or the spurs. That Dallas team is the same team that swept the Lakers so I'm not tryna hear that b.s. lol....
@@aetazazsiddiqui6605 no it's cuz Kobe was not a team player and he has never led his team in every statistic category just scoring....
Chris Carter sounds like he STILL feels the sting of Jordan beating the Cavs every year! And Nick sound like the best LeBron Cheerleader!!
Emery Northington I swear
Emery Northington he says he thinks MJ is the greatest ever, yet he be downning him at every chance he gets
Emery Northington Chris has been friends with MJ since the 90s. He aint feeling no sting about the Cavs.
Emery Northington Nick and Colin with facts
Three peat ain’t easy. He did it twice.
League was watered down
@D D You can't guarantee anything because it's impossible to change history and put LBJ on the 90s Bulls. The only thing guaranteed is that MJ never got swept in the Finals, never shot under 40% from the field in the Finals, and never averaged under 20 ppg in the Finals. Your King has done all those things.
@@mariahsingleton5034 His victim list in the Finals includes Magic Johnson, Karl Malone, John Stockton, Charles Barkley, Clyde Drexler, and Gary Payton. Plus, the Eastern Conference wasn't the complete joke that it was when LeBron played there.
WO0 yEAHHH you’re comment didn’t get many likes😆
@WO0 yEAHHH Scottie Pippen Averaged 16.1 ppg in his career and dennis rodman averaged 9, while dwade averaged 22 and chris bosh averaged 19 LEBRON NEEDED THE HELP
"Get him off the show" Personally, i'll ship Nick off the earth
Nick actually made a good argument for MJ when he said Miller, Barkley and all those great players could never win a ring cuz of MJ. Can't say that about Lebron.
J. Abe PG13, Russ, Harden, D Rose, Melo, Amar’e S., Korver, Joe Johnson (atlanta AND Brooklyn), Al Horford, Giannis, Demar D. They are all future HOFs and their shots at rings were taken from them by LeBron.
Here's the thing... how many of those players teamed up to try to beat the Bulls? Because LeBron has spent his career losing to Big 3s (or GS who literally started an All-Star squad)
Can't say that about Bron because people beat him for the ring
@@aetazazsiddiqui6605 Just like Boston, Detroit, and Orlando beat Jordan. I don't see the point of your comment.
@@Xzei Pardon the first one being incomplete. I was talking about beating him in the finals. Thanks for pointing it out tho
3 peats - 2 times. 6 championships - 6 times final appearances. Stayed with the same team and developed the team; added an defensive player, not 2 prime time scorers.
lebron added 2 prime scorers? He went to Miami with dwade in his last year of his prime and Chris Bosh wasn’t in his prime either lol he had health issues as well. “Oh but he has ray allen too” wow nice 10 ppg so why are we acting like he played with prime players? The only one is kyrie. And why aren’t we talking about Jordan’s first 4-5 years in the league? What’d he do? Score a bunch and not win. Bron took a terrible cavs team to the finals in his first 4-5 years
Bill Russell got 11 what you saying?
Don’t forget 6 FINALS MVPS nobody has ever done that except MICHAEL JEFFREY JORDAN
@@nickirvin548 Without Ray Allen LeBron would have had 3 rings instead of 4...
And before you say "Well Steve Kerr..." That was a game 6. With the Bulls up 3 to 2. If Kerr missed that shot there's game 7.
There would not have been a game 7 if Ray Allen didn't hit that clutch shot after LeBron bricked his attempt.
@Nick Irvin 2010 Wade averaged 25.5, 2011 Wade averaged 22.1, 2012 Wade averaged 21.2 and was an all-star all of those years. 2011 Finals Wade averaged 26.5, 7 and 5. Bosh 2010 averaged 18.7 and 8, 2011 averaged 18 and 8, 2012 averaged 16.6 and 7. Bosh also an all-star all of those years.
I hate how Nick keeps talking about Jordan's imperfections like Lebron doesn't have any.
Frandy Brown right lol... it's all a joke... jordan is the greatest... they need to just get over it...
Frandy Brown
The problem is Jordan fans have been doing the same for Mike for years now. Jordan had his struggles in College and the NBA, but fans don't want to debate about it, they all act like Jordan played 91-93 and 95-98 and every thing else didn't happen...I could make a list so damn long about Mikes failures as a player and teammate but why? Clearly we can only bash LeBron for losing and failure but bring up mikes and dudes get all in their feelings.
Nick only talks about Jordan's imperfections because NO ONE ELSE will.
Costone90 accept what? 4 finals losses? lol
Marc NY Yet no one wants to discuss Jordan's UNC teams after Worthy left and they were embarrassed the next two years in the Tourny when he had Kenny Smith, Sam Perkins and Brad Dougherty....no one wants to discuss how Jordan was 1-9 in the playoffs the beginning of his NBA career until they got Pippen, Grant and Phil coaching....
LeBron can't win them all and Jordan couldn't either.
Wtf is Nick talkin about? 2012 Celtics were already past their prime so dont say LeBron was the reason for their breakup
In what universe. Lebron beat a group of past their prime stars. If the celtics win that series, Lebron should have retired at that point
Pierce doesn't hate Lebron he just relates to mj more because he's clutch
These fox sports 1 idiots think LBJ broke up the OKC Thunder like lmao what are you smoking, The Thunder went to 2 more conference finals and were competitors until after last year's loss to GS, if anything Steph and GS broke them. Also these guys say Jordan only beat Pistons and Lakers when they were old, like bruh you think LeBron beat Pistons and Celtics when they were in their prime like bruh Pistons were pretty old when LBJ beat them and Celtics were already old when put together and was well past their prime when LBJ joined up with Wade and Bosh and beat them
Lebron didn’t even know how to post up when he came into the NBA. It took him 9years to where it was a natural occurrence of him knowing how to score without running people over. The 3 off seasons he spent with Hakeem. Jordan didn’t need to have a old legend teach him the game.
Bro he’s an all time great why not get advice from him
we're just gonna act like the Celtics weren't the team that sent LeBron to Miami
Nope, David Stern is the reason he went to Miami just like Silver is the reason KD went to GS...
Xavier Aguilar are we going to act like u did not use colin own words just to fit what u just said
Swag King18 Yeah, that's kind of the point. He's acting like the Celtics were nothing to LeBron when they were the ones who forced him to team up with two other superstars.
And ignore when Jordan whines to David Stern about the Bad Boy Pistons which made the league soft? You can't layer that blemish on Jordan's cement and expect me not to bring it up.
well i would too if i had to play against three hall of famers by my own and im pretty sure any player will do the same
they really gotta pronounce cement differently lol
Nick had to have started saying it the way Cris said it because he heard it that way. There is no way they both say it like that. That had me going.
Hey Nick.. Don't forget that Pierce and the Celtics beat LeBron also. 👍
Matthew Moscotto DC dont forget they couldnt beat lebron without getting together so of course they beat him ...it was just him but when he got help that was it with the celtics
Lol
They didn't play LeBron before that lmao
Yea wen lebrons 2nd best player was Ilgalgus 😕😕😂
Took one of the best big 3s of all time to stop young lebron with nobody else on his squad. Bet your happy someone left the east. Maybe celtics can make the finals again. 😎
One ring in 11 years playing for cleveland..hes got the lame media hyping him up to be better than he is.
Bruh his first time in Cleveland lebron had no help😂 and he still took them to the finals twice. His second time he actually had help and he took them to the finals 4 more times and had to play one of the best teams of all time. And he beat a 73-9 team
"What's wrong with losing?" Said the guy that never won anything.
Someone has to win someone has to lose
Here's the main difference between Michael and Lebron... When you looked into Michael's eyes, you knew you were f...ked... There was no quit in Michael... I love Lebron but he can disappear
Reading this comment after watching game four just solidifies your statement. He is a quitter.
+Mike S atleast MJ stayed with the team during bad times lol and he got pippen and rodman lebron needed dwade bosh ray allen klove and kyrie to win also pat riley and lebron is a ring chaser this is about to be what his 4 team he's going to lol MJ the goat
Not even a nba fan it's about teams and franchises im a laker fan you just follow a player
Hey remember that playoff game Lebron got his headband knocked off that was the highest rated player in 2K LOL.
Jordan LeBron convo is not a discussion, LeBron Kareem is not a discussion, LeBron Bill Russel not a discussion, LeBron will never be top five, guy playing against Victor Oladipo, Kyle Lowery, and Jalen Brown, then quits in the finals! Let’s also not forget LeBron is constantly chasing Jordan and Kareem’s stats. LeBron is very conscious of that because this is a statistic/analytic era where you can go a day without hearing about averages and efficiency ratings etc etc. Jordan Magic Russel Kareem all about destroying to win. Love BJ Armstrong talk about Jordan’s mentality of always trying to keep thinking the score was 0-0. Bottom line LeBron can rack up all the stats he wants. Dude will never be in the convo! Never! Not a discussion
Cowherd made a really stupid point by comparing Ray Allen's shot to Paxson or Kerr shots, Jordan never even faced an elimination game in the Finals, lol. If Ray's shot does not go in, Lebron loses! Jordan is so much better than Lebron, it's not even funny.
If not for these shots Jordan would have faced 2 elimination games bro , and you never know maybe he would have lost them . So no that's not a stupid point and Jordan isn't so much better than LeBron , he's better but not 'so much' better .
Cameron Mo thank u and MJ drove and kick it out not let him get the ball and let him create his own shot. lol. these guys are hanging on his nutts
It wasn't a stupid point, but it wasn't a great one either. Miami was trailing 3-2, and if Ray Allen's shot doesn't go in, Miami loses. If Kerr or Paxons shot doesn't go in the series isn't over. It is tied 3-3 and you can't tell me Jordan's Bulls wouldn't have been favored in a game 7, so there is a difference between the two
MaSSaD 98 yes but ray allen shot saved miami from elimination. The reason isn't a good point is that if the shot wouldn't go in the series was tied 3-3
Tyler Busch that's totally true
3-6 with a lot of triple double I guess that makes Russell Westbrook the goat since that's all that matters LeBron never average a triple double for a season let alone two
Nick Wright has been real quiet these playoffs.
That's is because as high as they rate LeBron they didn't expect him to win. Just like they got all new players that LeBron wanted. All-star for dirt cheap. Got 82 games to prepare yet they still expect LeBron to lose.
Then the loses don't count because GS actually does the work. They play hard all season and all playoffs and people hate them from winning.
Jonathan Kim ...did u not see his numbers?
he's the best stat padder of all time...
whats kd has to do with that topic
Nick Wright gonna create a time machine to go back in time to the day Paul Pierce got stabbed. Except he gonna make sure the job is finished
Steph Curry The G.O.A.T once golden state wins all this mj and lebron talk will be over !
Wanting someone dead because of a tweet? Typical Warriors fan....
James Harden Literally not a single team Jordan faced was worth anything. One single team had 2 hall of famers and not even a decent role player. LeBron was faced a team with 4 hall of famers twice.
Paron Zubalon the Lakers in 91 was loaded. the Blazers in 92 was loaded. The Suns in 93 loaded. The Supersonic in 96 loaded. the jazz in 97 and 98 loaded foh
cbenji07 you really think those teams were loaded
Robert Horry is 7-0 in the finals
Kata Guruma he is the GOAT 🐐🐐🐐🐐. Hold that W
0 finals mvps
Only novices like you bring up role players when we are discussing the GOATS. I hate you casuals. Hold this L stupid
Classick World
That went a mile above your head. He's saying rings aren't the end all be all.
hitek9wittafulclip pippen wasn't an MVP in any of the finals got bailed out in 98 when he only played 20 minutes because his back was hurt
geez. They have a low standard for the GOAT. GOAT is supposed to be as perfect as it can be. What's more perfect than 6-0? You'll seriously take 3-6 over 6-0?
Bill Russell has 11 rings... in case you didn't know.
@The R. And yet... when everyone describes Jordan's accomplishments they always mention All-Defense... but I guess defense and rebounding don't matter for anyone else.
And strange that to diminish Bill Russell you bring up lack of competition and the caliber of his teammates. Can't do that for Jordan though... 'tis forbidden!
7-0 is better than 6-0. Robert Horry has now overtaken Jordan as the GOAT.
Xzei yup in a league with only 8 teams. 🤣🤣
Xzei MJ was a DPOY. Lead the league in steals. Also MJ was the first player to have more than 200 steals and 100 blocks in a season. There are only 3 players who achieved that to this day and MJ did it twice.
They played less games before and had only 8 teams in the league.
That’s cute. I remember Paul & them embarrassing LeBron so bad he ripped his Cleveland jersey off & ran to South Beach 🤷🏽♂️
dcjr7921 that literally didn’t happen. He was playing San Antonio in the FINALS!
Des Jones He’s talking about 2010
Paul kd Ray allen that team was stacked
@So Cool1 yes after he left to Miami mj never had to leave he manned up lebron cant do that he always needs more help
@So Cool1 yes and if I can be on a team with 2 to 3 all stars and hof I'm pretty sure I can go to the finals 9 times too and lose 6 as well lol hater
Once Lebron loses this finals, this topic can be put to bed once and for all. At that point, I have no idea what Nick Wright will talk about.
King Trawal no it seemed like win or lose LeBron has still surpassed him. not entirely sure how.
King Trawal yes once lebron loses too last two MVPS we can stop calling him Jordon
Jordan was always the favourite in every series because he had the best teammates, Lebron has always been the underdog...even in Miami. Lebron is SUPPOSE to lose to G.S. Jordan never played a team like G.S......So thats why When Cavs came back from 3-1 against the greatest team of alltime...73-9...people start considering Lebron the GOAT. So LEbron losing to Golden State means nothing to his legacy...He'll lose to a 73-9 team that added Kevin Durant and a team that swept the playoffs so far. Lebron is the HUGE underdog.
That being said, If Lebron beats this team AGAIN with DURANT. It's a wrap, Lebron has to be considered the best of all time by everyone.
King Trawal see again win or lose he's the goat somehow. His 3-5 final record somehow means zilch. The fact that two of his wins he needed huge shots from Allen and kyrie. Again that means zilch. Jordan gets reamed for losing to Bird and Cousy as a 23 year old with no help. But LeBron on a team with 3 all stars and one of the games best point guards cant be blamed if they lose to golden state.
Jordan would beat this Warriors team ?
kristine stay in yo lane
Nope. Only her. Only Kristine. She gotta stay in her lane.
She hot, but she gotta stay in her lane.
David Guerrero lol
Ali Mirza why is she seated so far away?
Nick Wright looks like one of those people who goes door to door to ask people if they have time to discuss his Lord and Savior LeBron James
Isaac Barrow LBJ’s witnesses....they’re so annoying
Ray Allen's shot came when the Heat were on the brink of elimination. Security was already taping off the floor. He DID save LeBron. Paxson's shot came in game 6 with the Bulls leading the series 3-2. So how did Paxson "save" Jordan?
Jason Thompson their blind bro
These guys are dumb, they know nothing about basketball. They overrate LeBron so much that they confidently sat there in their seats and said Cavs in 5 like the dummies they are
OMG exactly what I said! these people arae idiots.
Everyone chooses to play with LeBRon yet his teammates always suck, he makes his team mates better yet 5 loses in the finals. 5 loses = not ready for the competition, weak eastern conference. he doesn't draw enough talent to win in the finals, Jordan 6/6. when Jordan was ready he was ready. when LeBRon is ready he goes 3/8.
Jason Thompson also it was a set play unlike ray allens shot. Even Steve Kerr shot in 97 was a set play.
Ok, then Lebron has a negative Finals record, cause Its REAL. Jordan Is perfect In the Finals with NO game 7s. Jordan the Goat!!!
Frankie Gunnz Jordan never played a great finals team
The only great team that Lebron won against was the Warriors.
OKC were young and the Spurs were old
Robert horry is better than mj then with that logic
Buddy The Elf no cuz horry never took over games. He was never the main dude. He was just there. Jordan was the main dude so your argument is stupid
ALEX with his logic, Robert horry is better than mj. All he says in support of mj being the goat is having a perfect finals record, Robert horry has a better finals record. Do I believe he is better than mj? Of course not. But horry is the reason that rings and finals record is irrelevant. They’re team accomplishments. But if you’re going to use rings/finals record, you can’t just use them to compare two people. They either count for everyone or no one
No wonder no one sees their show... They are delusional 😂😂😂
Being better longer doesn't mean your better
6-0 in the finals and never faced an elimination you can't compare lebron to Jordan , mj is god on the hardwood
Bernie Stark's He didn't always win so don't call him god bro
Jordan faced week teams on the 6 years he won.. can't compare those teams to the team's LeBron has faced in finals
Marc Rodriguez MJ didn't start dominating till the age of 28 when he finally won his first ring.. that was after magic and bird were out of their prime..
Slaughta House
Yeah you do know why they were winning right. Those teams were stacked, more HOFs than MJ ever had when he won all his rings.
Rudy Delacruz Jordan's first ring was with pippen against only one hof..
I would rather take the opinion of a future hall of famer than nick wright 🙈🤦♂️
Ben Smith fair enough they have earned the right to give that opinion because they are great players, also they are not as obviously biased as nick wright is
Johnny Keane lebron is the greatest and most efficient player to ever play in the NBA and it's not even close. NOT ONE PERSON other than lebron can do what he's doing in year 15. Jordan is overrated he couldn't even get to any of them finals without pippen literally. Also he won all his rings against terrible teams and a a 90s league full of expansions teams also he was getting destroyed in the 80s lmao
That's just the appeal to authority fallacy
KxngJay
How's lebron the most efficient player if KD is the most efficient scorer in nba finals history? 😂
Yes "most efficient player" involves efficent scoring and that isn't lebron 😂 The name of the game is basketball for a reason. Not reboundball.
Nick is an idiot but he makes valid points
LOL Nick Wright where you at?! LOL.
Hei C call him Nick Wrong. hes gonna come at you like when you call your dog's name and he comes
*3-6 with FINALS SWEPT 2x* vs *6-0 no need for game 7?* That wasn't looking equal to me.
I don't care what the numbers are, Lebron is not better than Jordan.
Nick Wright is the absolute worst.
No Lance, Paul pierce is. And so are you
In the playoffs Jordan shot a higher fg percentage than lebron 💀
Played in less playoff games too.
so? and won more chips with fewer tries... Jordan is hands down better
Corey Darko But shot over 100 shots more than lebron
Willie Reid no one told lebron not to shoot 🤷🏽♂️
Ray Dean He's just more of a facilitator nd Jordan is a pure scorer. Honestly they shouldn't even be compared
only MJ can seal the deal.. best clutch player.. nick wright is not all there... Lol..
Lebron has hit more clutch shots than jordan and kobe .. look up facts before you look like an idiot online
dadillonful I know ur comment is 6 months old but lmao “look up facts before u look like an idiot online” he says that’s literally what u just did u hypocrite. Jordan shot almost 50% FG in the clutch(5 seconds or less in the game) and Lebron shoots 20% FG in the clutch SO research and get ur FACTS straight before u make urself look like an IDIOT like u just did. Lebron isn’t clutch
@Khuns Traveler everybody is going to miss,but LeBron is on another level of missing when it comes to that,where Jordan missed a lot less
@Khuns Traveler you are so funny dude,you should try and go on comedy central
@Khuns Traveler is having the biggest meltdown of all time in 2011 clutcher than the guy who stole the ball,dribbled up the court and had a iso mid range to win the championship less clutch then that?Didn't think so.
Jordan is the Greatest.
WO0 yEAHHH says nobody
Greatest at what?
@@dadillonful At basketball
Arguable. But I respect it
Nick is so annoying...the logic in this if lebron not start so early he couldnt pass mj in score...and if mj focus on points and assist or in his stats he probably beat jabbar in points...mj focus is to win...thats all
@WO0 yEAHHH what you trying to say?! You're comment makes no sense...
@@ATL1995 what he said is that MJs main goal was scoring. He never tried to go for assist or other stats. And LBJ focused on all other stats and still passed MJ.
Bryan Garcia well at the end of the day, it pretty much comes down to votes on who the goat is. I don’t see Lebron ever getting as many votes as MJ.
@@ATL1995 I completely agree with you. It's about votes, But I believe that it's about Eras. The Era before Jordan believed that no one could/or has passed Kareem. The same will happen with Jordan and LeBron I believe
@Kenneth Erickson Hey! I missed you! You REALLY watch and comment on every LeBron video don't you? What a strange obsession you have!
Also, LeBron passed Jordan on fewer shots. But... let's not count that.
LBJ never been hurt b/c he flops and the NBA now is soft. No hand checking, technicals given out for taunting a player. Back in the Jordan era players were getting roughed up and it was normal.
cicirunner Honestly handchecking would not have stopped Lebron. Yes NBA is less physical but handchecking never stopped good players. Think about it could Jordan have handchecked Iverson when he go crossed up.
Jordan never had to face today’s “zone” type strong side overload defensive schemes that make one on one much harder. Because of the illegal defense rule Jordan got to go one on one all day long. Read about illegal defense if u think I’m crazy
Then why does everyone else in the NBA right now get hurt
@lloganmusic and part of the reason the NBA rules chAnged was bc MJ was complaining about Detroit
@lloganmusic it's pg like all other sports of course sports on the 80s & 90s was harder bc kids today can watch sports anywhere back then the world wasn't as advanced as it is now I personally think MJ the best in his generation not the whole time the league has existed
I respect that Jordan joined Larry Bird and Magic to win Championships.
Nick Wright is the WORST!!!
It’s actually pronounce Nick Wrong
@@ATL1995 ok and you're right
along with shannon
lebron must be paying Nick Wright to cheerlead for him, he deffends lebron like its his gf or something
The minority has to.. and I agree with Nick
@@lordsozehcp5362 stupid
lebron = wannabe goat, lmao he even copies the real goat by wearing his number. Jus accept reality, bron will never be on Jordans level. Thats why he has to resort to off court politics to keep himself in the goat conversation. Because on the court he cant come close to being as good as Jordan. lebron hasnt even won a DPOY yet. What a joke to compare lebron to the Greatest player to ever play the game. MICHAEL JORDAN! again jus accept reality.
Actually the media is paying nick and Colin to cheerlead
@So Cool1 you= Idiot/bronsexaul
Lebron's all around impact on the court might be as great as Jordan's was.
But, Air Jordan is a mythical figure that Lebron or anybody else is very unlikely
to ever overcome. Paul Pierce and most players that grew up over the last 25-30 years
all idolized Jordan. They all wanted to be like Mike. He was and is their hero.
Ples Banks Jordan had an aura of invincibility. Lebron never came remotely close to that. Jordan was better. point blank
Ples Banks lechoke can't be go to guy like MJ,nuff said
Jordan had a better impact on offense and defense than lebron ever has
Ples Banks so when do we move on......?
Jordan was and is like the real life personification of Superman.
Anybody here after PP changing his mind and now sayin bron is the goat? 😂🤣
Michael is the GOAT and Kobe is Goat Jr. hands down! They both are more clutch and they both have that killer instinct to take over a game to make sure they win. They are both too competitive to give up. They also and this is the most important aspect that everybody skips and that is both Michael and Kobe brought championships to the their respective teams. They didn't leave and they made people around them better! Lebron is a better all around player but he chases championships. He don't bring them to him. He changes teams to get success so how can you make the people around you better when you run off to another team. Also how do you make people better when you are constantly asking for your chosen lineup! Until Lebron can stay put with one team with a solid core then he will never be in MY GOAT conversation!!!! #TooLateNow
Kenneth Clay MJ the GOAT but Magic and Bird better than Kobe.
While I agree Michael is the best I've seen, it's an opinion--not hands down. You can't prove anyone who doesn't agree with you wrong. There's maybe 6-10 players we can generally agree are in the conversation. Anyone can cherry pick stats to support who they think is the best from there. But it really just comes down to who you like the best. Personally I'd put Kareem, LBJ and maybe a few others ahead of Kobe.
lol back here in reality LeBron has more game winning playoff shots than Jordan and Kobe COMBINED. You people spread fake news constantly
While your stat is accurate, your reality is a cherry picked one. Wilt Chamberlain has more 30 pt / 30 rebound games than the rest of every single NBA player ever combined. Think about that. He also has by far the most 50 point games. Does that make him the best? There are so many things that go into the best ever. Fake news doesn't apply when people reference actual stats. The issue is that people cherry pick stats to prove their opinion-as you do here. The media loves to perpetuate the GOAT debate because it's an unwinnable argument. They make money off it. There is no-nor will there ever be--100% consensus on the goat in the way we can all agree who won WWII--and so in a way there really isn't one. What there is instead is a Mount Olympus of great players in the conversation of GOAT. Michael, Lebron, and Kobe are all among them, as are Kareem, Russell and few others. People will debate these players ad nauseum.
LOL at bringing Kobe into the discussion, he only brought 2 championships to their respective teams. The other 3 were brought by Shaq.
Um, the Ray Allen shot was made possible by a great rebound and pass by Bosh not Lebron. While Jordan assisted Paxon and Kerr perfectly, making the right play at the right time to will his team to victory. Lebron bricked. No comparison
3 championships to 1? Yup, just wait a few more months chump
Lol you do realize just before he missed that three he splashed another one cutting the lead
You do realize Jordan was known for making the winning play right? Not playing great up until the end and then bricking. It's a big difference. I'm not saying I could do it. Jordan could. He was the greatest winner in history. It was awesome. Lebron is also great. He's nowhere near as clutch as MJ and his finals records shows it
globalicon2012 not even close to superteam. But they had great role players. Pippen was a star but not superstar
Not only that, but Kerr and Paxon's shots were not in elimination games. There's no comparison to be had, if Ray Allen misses the series is over.
"Cavs in 5"
-Nick Wright
See-meant? I’m out!
Nick Is a clown with his lebron obsession lebron is great top 3 of all time but not the GOAT
nick wright should stop lol
Look 1 thing Jordan has over labron is he never left his team to in order 2 win a championship u have even give jordan more credit for winning a championships then retiring then come back and win more championships who does that oh yeah the goat
+The Slick Nic your comment is wrong. Look at Jordan's teams BEFORE Pippen and Grant or Rodman. Mike's teams were awful BUT he didn't leave his team.. Unlike Lebum
i totally agree,lebron will never beat jordan n kobe
Bruh Pippen in the early years put up garbage role player numbers and Jordan still took them to ECF and pushed the Bad Boys 6 games. It wasn't until 1990 that Pippen became an all star when after Jordan had pushed Pippen really hard over the years and transformed him into a star player. And seriously dude Mo Williams wasn't his best player, seriously hate it when they say that cuz they completely disregard a Shaq who was an all star the year before and Antwan Jamison averaging 16 PPG and 7 RPG
Lebron isn't even better than Kobe or Dr. J. So how can he be better than Jordan?
Lol, MJ defensive player of the year and NCAA champion. All this without HGH end of discussion
greg zoller he won the NCAA champion the same way Tristian Thompson won a ring in 2016. The MOP went to James Worthy and Jordan not only never won the NCAA tournament he also never won the ACC tournament nor did he make the ACC finals.
@@MrSlashblade That's a damn lie, MJ had 16 points 9 rebs. and hit the game winner in the NCAA tournament title game, he also won 3 ACC Regular Season Titles, 1 ACC Tournament title, ACC Freshmen of the year, ACC Player of the year, and National player of the year, go learn basketball history before you say something that stupid again.
Jason Howell Worthy had 28 points in that game, Worthy won the MOP of the Tournament all of Jordan’s team success came in his first year where he was the third scoring option.
After Worthy left, he won the division but never the ACC tournament by himself and never even got his team to the finals. So let’s not even talk about the NCAA tourney. So yea when Jordan was the captain he never led North Carolina to anything notable, not even a final four
and the 84 team had
Kenny Smith Sam Perkins Brad Daughtery all top ten picks with brad being the number one overall pick.
Jordan college career is highly overrated and is at best a top 5 Tar Heel but no where near even a top 5 college player of all time.
@@MrSlashblade Have you ever watched the 1982 NCAA title game? Did u see Ralph Sampson in college? Do you know Kenny Smith broke his hand and that was one of the reasons they didn't win the title in 1984? First of all there was no shot clock or 3pt line when MJ played in college or his stats would have been higher, second Sampson who played for Virginia was a 7'4" center who was a two time College player of the year and Jordan was 4-1 vs him, and by the way the only loss is when they had James Worthy, and third Dean Smith ran a system at UNC which no one player could completely dominate, don't get me wrong I love Dean but sometimes he would be hard pressed to change game plans during a game, and last yes Worthy was MOP of the Final Four, and yes he scored 28 points to lead UNC in scoring, but when clutch time came who made the shot to win it? Worthy? No Jordan did. PS Jordan's record at UNC was 88-13, 56-11 without James, in the ACC no team was better record wise, look it up.
Jason Howell you see the play before the shot on the defensive end?you talk about the other two players Daughtery and Perkins, you Michael terrible last game 13 points 6/14 I think he was also a reason why they lost, did you know there was a 3 point line when Jordan played infact the ACC had the closest 3 point line and the only reason it wasn’t recorded was because different conferences had different ranges from 3 til I think 87? Did you know Sampson still got his in 83? Did you do any research before spewing nonsense. Is no the answer to most of these questions except this one?
Nick Wright is a blatant LeBron D'rider lol... He's in love with dude
Which makes you an obvious Jordan d'rider lmao 😂
^Says the Mega Wood rider.
No, he is speaking facts.
have you seen shannon? lmao
Steve Job
Haven't seen Nick wright since the cavs lost on the finals lmao
Manuel L lebron still average a triple double against the greatest team of all time
He was preparing for his new show with Chris Carter
SAUCEAHOLIC and still lost and will lose again this year lmao
He has a new show and after the finals, the season is over.
Tf is he going to talk about?
Manuel L lebron's fans disappear when Cleveland loses in the playoffs
I don’t know how is Nick Wright is even allowed to talk basketball.
Nick is going to lose all credibility as a commentator if he keeps up this non-sense about Lebron being better than Michael Jordan. Why is it so important that people want to say that Lebron is better. MJ is the goat and will always be the goat. Quit with the comparisons because it ain't even close.
Mpi Group true basketball fans knows MJ is the GOAT but I'm afraid Nick Wright didn't get the memo.
Mpi Group I agree with you LeBron can't even beat Kobe just saying
Mpi Group Deadass it’s not close LeBron way better
@Ben Dover Didn't Jordan almost brick the Bulls out of the 96 Finals? Thank God Rodman was pulling down boards like his life depended on it.
@Kenneth Erickson Didn't Jordan quit twice? And punch a teammate? And run coaches out of town until he got Phil?
They already have their excuse ready if the warriors win.
Paxson and Kerr didn't bail out Jordan, there still could've been a game 7 since they were up 3-2. And they were up 3-2. If ray misses its over since they were down 3-2.
I'd rather have 6 rings and lesser stats than have 3 rings and every record in post season.
Jordan was double teamed and made a play to a wide open John Paxson, and the game was tied and the series wasn't on the line. LeBron MISSED the game tying 3 with the game on line and the series on the line, and Bosh rebounded it was passed it to Ray Allen for 3. How is that the same thing?
Because teammates saved LeBron from losing 2 more Finals. The same cannot be said for Jordan.
Did I miss something but I would rather go 6 times and win then go 7 times and only win 3 times.
Randell Alderson
So you would rather lose in the first round until you met pippen? Ok
Jordan made Pippen in practice! You seen Pip without Jordan ... nothing!
Randell Alderson look at the some of the team's LeBron drug to some of those finals. With that being said Kode is the 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
john cates “pippen without Jordan...nothin!” So how is it that the bulls lost two less games when mj retired the first time, with pippen being the best two way player that year. They also made it to the conference finals game 7, without Jordan. Damn, pippen is nothing without Jordan.
Randell Alderson Exactly, these idiots so in love with LeBron, they don't realize that he's went to 8 finals only won 3, and in 2 of those wins, he had a shot by Ray Allen to win one and a Draymond Green suspension and bugot, iguodala injury and a Kyrie 3 pointer to win one, this guy is waaaay overrated
Let's see what they're going to say if he don't even make it to the finals this year
Lebron not better than Jordan!!!
Trina Lewis Jordon not better than bill
michael cook Jordan has more defensive team selections than Lebron. More scoring titles. More finals mvp’s. Case closed
Benjamin Franklin stats don't lie...
Keoni Martin they don’t . 3-5
Jordan dunkd better, dribbles better, more of purere shooter....
Now on talks of legacy, LeBron can talk more but GOAT DEBATE IS SETTLED...
And these guys are PAID to discuss this? SERIOUSLY? Goodness. Look for something else to talk about. Lebron is NOT halfway where Jordan is.
Onasis Aries Campos last time I saw the stats between king James n Jordan. king James pass Jordan n kobe. and he still playin.
Onasis Aries Campugfddfyy
Nick, Colin, 2 of LeBron James' titles were thanks to literally the 2 most clutch shots in finals history made by Ray Allen and kyrie. so not only did LeBron join a super team TWICE to get only 3 rings, but two of them required Ray and kyrie to do what they did. it really takes a lot away from LeBron. he's a beast no doubt ! but his titles aren't all.that impressive. so the kobe and mj convo is ridiculous to me .
Armando Kozomara Lebron is better then Kobe if you don't agree I mean you are just a ignorant idiot
"LeBron James would win less if he didn't have teammates" Hahaha. I totally agree
why are people try to make us believe that LeBron is better than Michael Jordan the man is 3 and 4 in the finals
Dion Martel 3-5***
Colin last I checked we missed 4yrs of his prime so say what you want we all know 13yrs in the league to 13yrs in the league Mike is far better than labron!
Lebron James has more Finals shooting under 40% than Jordan's has TOTAL PLAYOFF SERIES shooting under 40%
Lebron has shot over 50% in 1 Final to Jordan's 3
Lebron has averaged 30+ in 1 Final, at 39% FG. Jordan has 5 times, 3 times over 50% and never under 42%
MJ has a higher playoff 3-pt % and much higher Finals 3-pt%
Lebron 6-8 250 only averaged over 1.0 blocks per game 3 times Jordan 6-6 195 averaged over 1.0 blocks per games 4 times & averaged 1.6
Jordan shot 50% as a Rookie & averaged 28 Lebron as a Rookie shot 41% & averaged 20
Jordan averaged more than 2.0 steals per game Ten times Lebron averaged more than 2.0 steals per game Once
Jordan averaged 30 PPG while shooting 50% FIVE times Lebron ZERO times
Jordan shot 80% from the free throw line 12 times Lebron ZERO times
If You Noticed, I never mentioned 6 for 6 in the Finals with 6 Finals MVP's
dialgafrost010 dont argue LeBron lovers with stats. its outrageous. lebron has also won 3 finals by the time he was 32. don't count the 5 additional years he has playing in the league over jordan at this point. LeBron is in the conversation but he hasn't passed him yet people. he may never.
Now I Wonder why nick Wright won't bring up these stats 🤔
wow dude those are really good facts
dialgafrost010 name a stats Jordan good in other than scoring and did Jordan lead the finals series in every single statistical category for both teams against the best team in the world I'll wait...
Ink Master yeah cause those are important than these stats so ill wait when he is 6-0
When Jordan was 35...
Mj also went to college for a few years
E W everybody monster forgot Jordan play football too baseball and golf don't play Jordan is another Bo Jackson get y'all mine right
E W and when he Worthy left he didn’t even win an ACC championship nor did he get to the ACC finals.
Nick Wright is a fool.
Let alone
LeBron James lost four times in the finals and people seem to forget or give him a pass. And his competition is easier that's what makes it sad
Ben Smith lbj always had help wtf oh he lost lmao..the comment dumb...mj only had 1 all star 1 hall of famer an a dam good rebounder an went 6 for 6 lmao...
Ben Smith he choked,no excuse
Ben Smith Jordan never choked like lechoke in 2007,2011,2014,2015 and 2017,2017 Cavs could makes a comeback,but lechoke choke away the game in game 3,nuff said
Lebron failed to bring 7 Consecutive titles to the losing city that drafted him with a "Decision".