@@pauljohnson3584 Not true. It was great how she and Lindsay became closer and closer. Her character went from being a total bitch to actually likable.
Freaks and Geeks is the best show to not get a second season ever. Worst decision to cancel it; that show would have been bigger than The Wonder Years if properly cared for.
Idk, do you think it would have remained as good as 1st season forever? In England they only make like 12 episodes before they wrap the project and start another and that results in much better stories…. Less filler
@@lessimcdowell9897 i feel like it still would’ve been great. the problem is when shows go on several seasons and just end up ruining all of it, but one or two more seasons would’ve been fine or until they graduated
Lindsay becoming a deadhead is the reason why I keep rewatching the series. It's such a good ending. Love them hippies. Such a long long time to be gone and a short time to be there.
FREAKS AND GEEKS really hit me hard with the Jason Segal stuff about him falling apart after Lindsay dumps him. I wasn't violent but the anger, frustration and confusion he goes through was so like my own in a similar situation with my first high school girlfriend. Watching that show, so many years later, really took me back to that dark time.
Freaks and Geeks was set in a Detroit suburb in the early 80's, and that was my experience growing up. They even had details like particular concerts at Cobo Hall that we had gone to. It was so great in its detail of the ski jackets and corduroy bell bottoms, and the meanness of certain characters. That is totally how I remember middle and high school, and super painful so much of the time.
When I saw the first episode of this show, I almost had to stop watching because it was so close to my life in high school it brought back some bad memories. I stayed with it and fell in love
I haven't seen this show in ages, so I decided to rewatch it again. I didn't remember most of the episodes, so it was like watching it for the first time. This tv series is absolutely brilliant. I'm a product of the 80s, so this was very relatable and enjoyable. The writing, the acting, and the casting is top notch.
So, the reason why F&G was cancelled was because it was "brutally honest"? not enough "sugar coating"? it was called Freaks And Geeks For A Reason! That 70s show lasted for Years Never could understand Why This show didn't
My favorite teen stuff has always been those that find the entertainment in the mundane, everyday life. Kids just hanging out, talking about whatever. Not every episode has to be about learning some deep, important, lesson, or the basketball team winning the big game, or family drama that gets resolved by the end of the episode. Not that Freaks and Geeks didn't have some of that; it just didn't consume the entire show.
@@OneGaurdian 👍💯 I agree. I grew up in a time when Television shows had to teach kids a valuable life lesson.. F&G was mindless and enjoyable Being a teen in the 80s Was like that! ( heaven forbid, they should show "Generation X" as a group with no general ambitions...right?
I just rewatched this show again after many years. That last episode really kills me knowing that was all we got. I absolutely loved the show, it was actually funny, lots of relatable parts and I loved all of the characters and their arcs Really sucks , I’d have loved to have seen where it went
Solid insight on the TV production process, especially as it relates to the exec suit set and how they operate in that space. Thx so much for putting together another awesome episode!
It's interesting how the ignorance of a higher-up exec can sometimes lead to great things.. it's a common pattern in other industries outside of hollywood, too. The managers who "know what they're doing" can end up stifling the process of the people actually doing the work
It pales in comparison to the number of awful things that the “higher ups” prevented or turned into something wonderful. Everyone loves the idea that the “suits” ruin everything but no one even bothers to share the stories where the suits force the “creatives” to change something and it’s great.
Yeah I remember Fox really pushing Undeclared but I guess it just didn't have an audience. Both those shows were great and also love the movie Knocked Up which is what brough Apatow into the spotlight or kept him going after 40 year old virgin. He did a recent show on Netflix which was good as well called "Love". The movie "Bubble" had its moments as well. Yeah Freaks and Geeks was a great show and canceled way too soon. Perfect show about high school in the early 80s. He always used that cast for future projects.
@@MrJboogie04 I gave LOVE a go but I just couldn't bring myself to believe that the hideous, unappealing lead of the show could get a dime like Gillian Jacobs.
Yeah for sure it did a great job showing the reality of College life. It would had been interesting to see the show North Hollywood as it was about young struggling actors, and artists trying to make it in the movie business. I like these type of stories that are more reflections of real life and the struggles people go through.
Unpopular opinion: I think a well-done, well-conceived reboot with as much of the original cast as possible would be incredibly successful. We can follow everyone’s lives into adulthood, see how they handle their own kids, jobs, friendships, deaths, etc. It’s so clear to me that there IS an audience for that. I know people like to shit on reboots, but I think if Apatow and Feig were at the helm again, it really could work. Although I’m not sure if anyone would want to work with James Franco again…..
I think this is the only show that deserves a reboot, but probably not with much of the OG cast. If they can make some of the OG cast members the parents or aunts maybe? But if it has the same heart and is set in the late 80s/early 90s that would be amazing
These kinds of execs are a big part of the reason I haven't watched television in years. All they know how to make is garbage. Freaks and Geeks was one of those rare jewels that come along once in a generation, and it gets cancelled after only one season. Meanwhile a show like Two Broke Girls, which was apparently written with jumbo crayons, lasts six seasons.
You know, I didn't like Freaks and Geeks when I first saw it. But upon re-watching, I have to say, it's one of the best shows set in high school I've ever seen.
There hasn't been a really good network TV show that has lasted more than 2 seasons in America since All In The Family and The Jeffersons. As soon as you try to make something meaningful that's more than about someone's body parts and making an idiot of yourself for no reason, you're history. Look at American network TV over the past 30 years. It's the reason I stuck to British TV.
Freaks and geeks was basically wonder years set in the 80s. Such a funny and sad show, it’s amazing that a genuine and heartfelt show gets cancelled But a god awful show like Big Bang theory lasted 12 years. But the great thing is a show like freaks and geeks is still remembered and held in high regard while once big bang theory went off nobody gave a shit.
As one of those kids who, at 18 and the summer out of high school, hooked up with some freaks and went on tour with the Dead, the finale caught me complete unawares and made the entire series far more relevant and unique than any other show of its ilk. I also have a head canon where Bill Haverchuck changed his name to Bertram Gilfoyle, became a programmer, and moved to Silicon Valley.
F&G was pure genius. There wasn't one boring scene in the whole series.
Busy Philipps whole character arc was boring.
Bill watching shandling destroyed me.
It had heart. His successful stuff has none. Ain't that America
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@@pauljohnson3584 Not true. It was great how she and Lindsay became closer and closer. Her character went from being a total bitch to actually likable.
years later this is still the most relatable teenage show.. i cried so much when i finished it
Freaks and Geeks is the best show to not get a second season ever. Worst decision to cancel it; that show would have been bigger than The Wonder Years if properly cared for.
Idk, do you think it would have remained as good as 1st season forever? In England they only make like 12 episodes before they wrap the project and start another and that results in much better stories…. Less filler
@@lessimcdowell9897 i feel like it still would’ve been great. the problem is when shows go on several seasons and just end up ruining all of it, but one or two more seasons would’ve been fine or until they graduated
i binged all the shows last year and wish it never ended. it would have been so great to have a few more seasons.
Freaks was such an excellent show. The writing was smart and spot-on. Younger actors finding themselves and doing phenomenal jobs.
Lindsay becoming a deadhead is the reason why I keep rewatching the series. It's such a good ending. Love them hippies. Such a long long time to be gone and a short time to be there.
Freaks and geeks was a show before its time. Look at the cast and how many of them became tv/movies actors etc
Of course it is before it's time, it was a period piece!
Jason Segel said Judd's revenge on Hollywood was to make the cast of Freaks and Geeks successful. 😂
He was right about the casting choices. Pretty much the entire cast went on to have successful careers.
Freaks and Geeks was too beautiful to live. I WAS FURIOUS!!! when it was cancelled
FREAKS AND GEEKS really hit me hard with the Jason Segal stuff about him falling apart after Lindsay dumps him.
I wasn't violent but the anger, frustration and confusion he goes through was so like my own in a similar situation with my first high school girlfriend.
Watching that show, so many years later, really took me back to that dark time.
F&G despite being set in 1980 was far more relatable to me as a teen in the 90s then all those other teen shows at the time.
Freaks and Geeks was set in a Detroit suburb in the early 80's, and that was my experience growing up. They even had details like particular concerts at Cobo Hall that we had gone to. It was so great in its detail of the ski jackets and corduroy bell bottoms, and the meanness of certain characters. That is totally how I remember middle and high school, and super painful so much of the time.
When I saw the first episode of this show, I almost had to stop watching because it was so close to my life in high school it brought back some bad memories. I stayed with it and fell in love
Freaks and Geeks is far and away my favorite TV show!
One of the greatest television tragedies ever, was F&G not seeing a second season. We can only use our imaginations to conjure up what came next.
Just got done watching the entire season. Really good show. Great music and so many relatable situations.
Just think about that cast; what an unbelievable group of talent.
I love that show. Have re watched it several times
I haven't seen this show in ages, so I decided to rewatch it again. I didn't remember most of the episodes, so it was like watching it for the first time.
This tv series is absolutely brilliant. I'm a product of the 80s, so this was very relatable and enjoyable. The writing, the acting, and the casting is top notch.
So, the reason why F&G was cancelled was because it was "brutally honest"?
not enough "sugar coating"?
it was called Freaks And Geeks For A Reason!
That 70s show lasted for Years
Never could understand Why This show didn't
My favorite teen stuff has always been those that find the entertainment in the mundane, everyday life. Kids just hanging out, talking about whatever. Not every episode has to be about learning some deep, important, lesson, or the basketball team winning the big game, or family drama that gets resolved by the end of the episode. Not that Freaks and Geeks didn't have some of that; it just didn't consume the entire show.
@@OneGaurdian 👍💯
I agree. I grew up in a time when Television shows had to teach kids a valuable life lesson..
F&G was mindless and enjoyable
Being a teen in the 80s Was like that!
( heaven forbid, they should show "Generation X" as a group with no general ambitions...right?
Weren't you listening to him explain about timeslots and low audience numbers?
@@vb8428 Freaks And Geeks was still better than Friends ( that shit lasted 10 years)
Freaks and geeks one of the best shows ever!
I just rewatched this show again after many years. That last episode really kills me knowing that was all we got.
I absolutely loved the show, it was actually funny, lots of relatable parts and I loved all of the characters and their arcs
Really sucks , I’d have loved to have seen where it went
Solid insight on the TV production process, especially as it relates to the exec suit set and how they operate in that space. Thx so much for putting together another awesome episode!
Freaks and Geeks is one of the best shows of all time
It's interesting how the ignorance of a higher-up exec can sometimes lead to great things.. it's a common pattern in other industries outside of hollywood, too. The managers who "know what they're doing" can end up stifling the process of the people actually doing the work
It pales in comparison to the number of awful things that the “higher ups” prevented or turned into something wonderful. Everyone loves the idea that the “suits” ruin everything but no one even bothers to share the stories where the suits force the “creatives” to change something and it’s great.
Frank Zappa said the same thing about the music industry in the 60s
@@ReallyBigBadAndy76 Doubtful.
No matter what else Judd does, he'll always be high on my list for producing Larry Sanders.
I loved Freaks and Geeks! It was good.
And don't forget UNDECLARED. Another great Apatow show that died. The shooting star from that show was a very young Charlie Hunnam.
Yeah I remember Fox really pushing Undeclared but I guess it just didn't have an audience. Both those shows were great and also love the movie Knocked Up which is what brough Apatow into the spotlight or kept him going after 40 year old virgin. He did a recent show on Netflix which was good as well called "Love". The movie "Bubble" had its moments as well. Yeah Freaks and Geeks was a great show and canceled way too soon. Perfect show about high school in the early 80s. He always used that cast for future projects.
@@MrJboogie04 I gave LOVE a go but I just couldn't bring myself to believe that the hideous, unappealing lead of the show could get a dime like Gillian Jacobs.
@@RolandDeschain1 Well, the nerds write these shows about nerds getting babes.
That show nailed the college/boarding school experience perfectly.
Yeah for sure it did a great job showing the reality of College life. It would had been interesting to see the show North Hollywood as it was about young struggling actors, and artists trying to make it in the movie business. I like these type of stories that are more reflections of real life and the struggles people go through.
Just watched this finally on Prime. Really good show. Will miss these characters.
It was such a great show!
Unpopular opinion: I think a well-done, well-conceived reboot with as much of the original cast as possible would be incredibly successful. We can follow everyone’s lives into adulthood, see how they handle their own kids, jobs, friendships, deaths, etc. It’s so clear to me that there IS an audience for that.
I know people like to shit on reboots, but I think if Apatow and Feig were at the helm again, it really could work.
Although I’m not sure if anyone would want to work with James Franco again…..
I think this is the only show that deserves a reboot, but probably not with much of the OG cast. If they can make some of the OG cast members the parents or aunts maybe? But if it has the same heart and is set in the late 80s/early 90s that would be amazing
Remember watching it live and never understood why it was canceled
i rewatch that season a ton
Never thought I'd see Lex Luthor interview Judd!! 😂😂😂
These kinds of execs are a big part of the reason I haven't watched television in years. All they know how to make is garbage. Freaks and Geeks was one of those rare jewels that come along once in a generation, and it gets cancelled after only one season. Meanwhile a show like Two Broke Girls, which was apparently written with jumbo crayons, lasts six seasons.
You know, I didn't like Freaks and Geeks when I first saw it. But upon re-watching, I have to say, it's one of the best shows set in high school I've ever seen.
Freaks And Geeks was Cancelled after the first season, yet Friends lasted 10 years on network TV.....
I never got Friends, it was like oatmeal with no sugar or milk.
Dang I loved this show I wish more good things could get made.
RIP Joe, excellent casting for him as well as the direct tell it like it is Dad
wish they continued it by making a graphic novel. Clearly they were passionate about the show.
I think we all agree, that 5-7 years in maximum security prison for canceling is appropriate, right?
Undeclared is great too.
There hasn't been a really good network TV show that has lasted more than 2 seasons in America since All In The Family and The Jeffersons. As soon as you try to make something meaningful that's more than about someone's body parts and making an idiot of yourself for no reason, you're history. Look at American network TV over the past 30 years. It's the reason I stuck to British TV.
I did not enjoy the show at all but do enjoy most of his other stuff. 😇
“He went to private school so…”
LOL. The show was doomed.
Still angry that it was cancelled
1:01; Scott Sassa ?
i bet someone starts this show up again
Is that Lex Luther?
one they or many they hated it?
Put a name to the pgm director,shame their idiocy
Having to use “fuck” during an interview, especially a 50 year old, portrays an immaturity and inferiority complex. Otherwise good interview
It’s some peoples choices to use it, as well as to not, no need to project.
@@lorenzoj1923 Who’s projecting? It’s just childlike linguistics
Your comment shows an immaturity complex.
BIOYA
It's used as an exclamatory. It's better to curse for emphasis than to yell.
Freaks and geeks was basically wonder years set in the 80s. Such a funny and sad show, it’s amazing that a genuine and heartfelt show gets cancelled But a god awful show like Big Bang theory lasted 12 years.
But the great thing is a show like freaks and geeks is still remembered and held in high regard while once big bang theory went off nobody gave a shit.
As one of those kids who, at 18 and the summer out of high school, hooked up with some freaks and went on tour with the Dead, the finale caught me complete unawares and made the entire series far more relevant and unique than any other show of its ilk.
I also have a head canon where Bill Haverchuck changed his name to Bertram Gilfoyle, became a programmer, and moved to Silicon Valley.