The case for Battlefield: Titanfall
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In this video I make a case for Battlefield: Titanfall. A crossover that no one wants, but I think would be pretty neat. A 128-player battlefield with giant mechs, wallrunning, and teamwork sounds like a pretty sweet first-person shooter to me.
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This is a great idea, and is actually kinda what I want. Basically, make the artstyle in-between Titanfall 2 and titanfall 1, and make some new modes to the scale of battlefield while leaving the original game modes. Then, add the destruction of battlefield. Every map starts out perfect and players can destroy parts of the map.
Then for the campaign, I'll say make it co op (because I said so) (no it isn't necessary but I'd like it) and add some open combat style missions like the ones from the recently released MW3, where you are released into a massive map where you have an objective to complete. You can also customize your loadout (you're a pilot you get to do that), and can decide to go in guns blazing or quietly with silencers.
Finally, (this one is debatable), add the black market back. (Without microtransactions obviously but this is EA we're talking about, although Respawn does seem to have some sway, when they released the ttf1 map packs for free. I just enjoyed the burn cards, calling in A titan at the beginning of a match was just so fun. Even though I'd want the cards to be like that, for balancers sake (or rather for the small balance ttf2 has), I'd scale them down just a bit.
I have a titanfall theory, so titans are made of regenerative armour that, although being tough , isn't strong enough for effective use on other vehicles or pilots. That's why the batteries are green as they are not carrying power but more armour to be used. When a titan is doomed, it's completely out of armour and the system for armour regeneration is broken.
@@knatureknight7504 cool idea but I don't think they thought that far. Maybe it carries some resources to repair the titan, and the battery still has power to use for the repair system.
Cool idea but I think this is a case of trying to make the game mechanics make sense when the developers just wanted a way to repair titans, and decided to combine it with the rodeo mechanic
The titanfall movement system would solve the constant pain of getting between flags as infantry
i can imagine 10+ titans duking it out with 10+ enemy titans in a huge battlefield, honestly that would be epic
I have played large player attrition on northstar its aids
@@wilville3752 the vanilla titanfall maps aren't catered to large titan combat. I regularly play 12v12 aegis brawl. I enjoy it a lot, but I can easily see how the maps restrict alternative routes.
Then imagine the Stim and Gravity star crack-head crossmapping the entire map in 5 seconds while doing a 1080 Kraber no-scope
Perhaps there’s even 10+ npcs duking it out with 10+ enemy npcs
Let me introduce to you 10+ tones and northstars
sadly we live in the timeline where EA exists
Even more sadly, its not EA prohibiting Titanfall 3. They gave them the green light for titanfall 3 a while ago, but respawn made apex instead.
The reality that no one seems to want to accept is true.. is that *Respawn* doesn't want to make Titanfall 3.
@@valior7253Bcus if they fuck up tf3 they goin bankrupt
Even if they do make this it would be micro transaction hell. I would much rather they just charge $80 up front than compromise their game progression.
To be fair, in a world where EA doesn't exist this project wouldn't even be a possibility at all.
Nah even the most braindead executive would see a crossover like this and sign off on it. Multiverse stuff is hot right now
That would be awesome. I always thought Titanfall needed huge ass maps and flying vehicles
Seriously. Is it too much to ask for a Titanfall mode on the Apex maps?
Honestly, modes like attrition and bounty hunt are already pretty hectic once things get into swing. I think that I'd freeze from the shear amount of stimuli in front of me in such a mode.
It also be cool to have non-titan ground vehicles.
What if you could zoom onto an enemy vehicle, throw the driver out, and take control it yourself like you can do in halo? This would be equivalent to a rodeo attack and therefore you could also grab onto friendly vehicles and hitch a ride.
it would also bring more "scale" to titans. Like, ronin is pretty cool but ronin who can cut helicopters in half? Hell yeah.
Also, titans like scorch and ronin might have trouble with helicopters so they might incentivize pilots to help titans out by dealing with certain vehicles.
@ajh3461 man I love Titanfall but I couldn't stand playing Apex. Mostly because anytime I do actually play a BR I like doing it solo
@@boiledpotatos6029 you would need teamwork to deal with different vehicle types. Its a feature not a bug. Pilots could even help by grappling on and attaching satchel charges or whatever.
As for the map size, you could have booster pads that launch pilots (you could even make these deployable by players) and also allow titans to throw friendly pilots. either way, its important that your transportation solutions allow you to seamlessly go back to wall running upon arrival.
Giant map with the best movement system, giant robots, and maybe a handful of npcs to spice things up? Im all for it.
It already exists, they made it in 2006 battlefield 2142
@@Mogadypopzlet’s be real though, that’s an old game no one really plays anymore and is VERY annoying to even get running again so something like this would be goated
With the customisation of titans, I recall (but don't remember sauce) hearing that the devs chose the class system partially to favour visual clarity. I.E, if you saw a Northstar, you'd know to expect cluster rockets and tether traps. In Battlefield, there can be multiple types of a vehicle, such as scout and attack helicopters, which each have access to their own selection of items. I believe a similar system could work for titans, where certain weapons and abilities are restricted to certain chassis types. If you saw an ogre, you'd know they can deploy particle walls or trophy systems, while a stryder has access to e-smoke or tether traps, for example. This could also work to eliminate problematic meta builds, as you would be unable to create the perfect combination to win every scenario, no predator cannon stryders for you.
Imagine seeing a titan from a tank, that would be scary
Could work like cod 3 where you have classes with special abilities, but otherwise you wouldn’t know loadout
yeah, even if it is just the light, medium, heavy, split, knowing what a titan is packing based on silhouette is important, in BF2042 for instance, my reactions to an M1A5 and T28 are different to the railgun tank or the MAV.
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In my head titans wouldn't be able to win a ranged battle in most cases with a tank
the tanks role is inherently head to head combat. but if you make use of terrain and level geometry to flank, peek snipe it, etc, it changes a lot. The problem of course is if there's a teammate you might have to deal with them, but that's okay because your teammate has a helicopter-
Even if your only ally that you see is right beside you, I want people to be able to get pulled into chains of supporting eachother.
Fair point, they both have certain weaknesses and strengths.
The maps would have to be designed around three things now, instead of just titans and pilots
Something that people haven't seemed to realize is that this game would have possibly the best soundtrack ever put in a game. Thinking about the Titanfall and Battlefield themes combined by a competent composer gives me chills.
The best bit is bungies legendary composer just got laid off and is probably looking for work again
Bring in Hans Zimmer like the OG MW2
bring in all the guys and we'll get the best game ever made
would be hella heavy doe (system-wise)
And Respawn has a competent composer.
Would be cool if they added the titan throw mechanic for pilot teammates, just press a button, and you'll be stationary with ur hand lowered until someone hops on. Then chuck them towards a jet or heli, or to hell itself
Dope
Imagine your teammate throwing you into the sky and you land on a jet, kill the pilot, and steal their vehicle so you can start strafing enemy titans with rockets.
Pilot projectiles. You can also throw friendly grunts but it kills them.
I absolutely love this idea! However i think it might slow down gameplay in order to coordinate it. My solution would be to follow Swags idea of a "passive Titan ability" utilizing a launch pad on top of the titan, That can fling "pilots" a certain distance towards a destination with the press of a button (either from the titan player or pilots).
Imagine a squad sieging an objective with a long range titan while the other pilots utilize the launch pad to push the objective!
Could just be that when a firendly pilot lands on a titans back and goes into jockey mode, they have the option of pressing a button to have the titan grab and fastball them without interfering with the Titan pilots ability to control their mech.
THis way you also leave it up to the pilot being thrown to choose where they are flung, so you get les intentional teawmkills by throwing into hazards or off cliffs or into adjacent walls.
As an avid bf medic it would be crazy to see the potential of a bf game with titanfall’s crazy movement as well as titans with mainly support capabilities
I would do anything for this type of shit
Imagine the full scale evacuation with like supports or engi classes building barricades and evac routes towards the evac center
The concept of largescale mech and infantry ground sounds crazy and awesome
They made this concept in 2006 called battlefield 2142. Most ppl didnt like it too much cause of call of duty
I’m just imagining having a whole squad piggybacking on the back of a friendly titan and keeping it repaired while it goes on a rampage. Man, this could be brilliant!
This is giving me flashbacks to door gunners in the Huey on BF3, two gunners and two engineers repairing it in the back so there's constant air support
I personally think that 128 players may be too many for a battlefield/titanfall mix, but I could absolutely see a 64-player version of this, especially since I’m pretty sure EA servers would shit themselves trying to handle tons of titans fighting one another so close.
Because you need grunts too
How about every time a certain amount of people die, a titan becomes available for spawn, while people unable to spawn become BF Commanders? This way when the titan gets destroyed they can drop back in after hitting the area with orbital bombardment "cruise missile"? Chosen options would likely have a cooldown based off kills/objectives and need a group vote, where 14 people in the commanders' war room on each team need to agree through voice or text chat by a vote, meaning it can't be abused. When space becomes available, through either a titan or the lowest performing player becoming eliminated, the highest scoring commander gets immediately spawned with temp buffs or even a titan. This means gameplay won't get one-sided with spawn camping...
Maybe they could do something similar to what battlefront 2 did and have you spawn as a grunt, and if you gain enough points then you can spawn in as a pilot or even a titan to make it so that maps aren't filled with 30 titans
128 players is not worth it. Significantly harder to design maps (which have to be larger meaning less overall), shits the netcode (2042 has 45hz servers vs BF1/BFVs 60hz) and poor mode flow, less vehicle capacity, way less destruction, etc etc. There can be reason to do more than 64 but 128 isn't worth it. You lose a lot to basically just gain a slightly more chaotic experience
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So, 60-player Bad Company maps instead?
I could see this work, but it's going to take a lot of people and trust to make it work. However the dreams we make can turn into great memories, so should this work it will be the greatest thing to ever happen to this century for games.
They already did it. 2006 battlefield 2142
I love the idea of Gamesaving Plays that aren't centered around getting eliminations. Grapple swinging over a battlefield with a healing smartpistol and bringing your team back from the brink of being wiped sounds like something I could live for.
As a fan of both franchises, this sounds like a fever dream...but a dream worth dreaming.
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Edit: I always thought if TF3 happened I'd really want them to double down in Attrition and make it larger, so combining it with Battlefield would be a no brainer to me. Could you imagine if at the end of a match, a bunch of people call their titans down to defend the evac ship, the final battle would be epic!!
Every end of round would be as intense as ever. And you can have a lot of memories from just that part alone
If they were to do different weight titans and allow you to customise them, then one of the ways to balance it would be to have all the weapons and support abilities have different weights so that lighter and faster mechs will have a smaller carrying capacity than the slower and heavier ones. Similar to how armoured core works:)
attrition on a huge map with different objectives would be a cool way to blend hardpoint into the default game mode, and the scale would really sell the idea of battling for the frontier. I dig it
I’ve always been more partial to a Titanfall: Battlefront approach. I know people would NOT like not always having a pilot available to play, but having grunt classes that are customizable and predefined pilots that can be bought with points has always made more sense to me.
That's what I was thinking. Since battlefront/battlefield has like 30-50ish players on the each team there would be like 10-20 pilots. And because it's Titanfall ofc it 5-10 Titans.
I think not having that many pilots or titans would work in it's favor. It's lore accurate in quality over quantity and Titans being powerhouses.
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This is genuinely one of the best possible options for a Titanfall 3.
Would love to see this idea brought to fruition. Would also think it’s really cool if the titans stepped into the battlefield role a bit more. Let the ogre class have more slots for teammates to rodeo for a lift. Give striders the abilities to deploy flares and chaff.
Such a good idea!
I love the thought of a smart pistol that heals people lol.
Anyways, maybe there could be classes split between types of pilots and ground troops/grunts so not every player is a pilot.
Ground troops could have better support options and better access to non-titan (or anti-titan) vehicles and assets. I feel like it’d give the boots on the ground players an option to continue that play style while also being lore friendly, since i don’t think Titanfall battles were fought with mass numbers of pilots in open fighting
Could see how tanks, IFVs, light armoured vehicles & aircraft could match against titans.
& how titans could fair against numbers of vehicles.
& also making the Smart Pistol Mk5 lock onto grunts but it's a regular gun against players is a smart move
you just describe mechwarrior living legends
@aces6262 the only Mechwarrior games I've played were:-
Mechwarrior 2-31st Century Combat/Ghost Bear Legacy
&
Mech-Assault (XBOX)
You could definitely get some crazy "conventional" vehicles with a bit of creative liberty as well. Imagine a tank that skates around like the Cataphract from Armored Core 6, firing off heavy weapons in all directions. Could make it take a full crew to operate at its full potential, and its large size would make it both a bullet magnet and also a piece of mobile cover for infantry.
Yeah, like a pilot suit has some kind of anti smart lock on, so only grunts without the equipment get hit lol.
@negative6442 Then again.... nautical combat! Titans vs Attack boats!
This laid out so much good concepts and goes into details of the limitations and constraints to pulling it off.
This would synergize pretty well with BF2042's vehicle customization approach where you either pick anti-armor or anti-infantry weaponry but you can't have both.
For example in your tank you can have HE shells for splash damage or AP shells for anti vehicle gameplay, so as a Titan you're not only looking out for potential infantry threats like engineers with rocket launchers, landmines, or C4, but also for enemy Titans and Vehicles which can all have different combinations of offensive and defensive abilities that basically kill off any chance of a meta-defining "All in One" powerhouse build, you can either be really good at killing infantry, vehicles, or titans, but you can't be all three at once.
So a strong anti-tank Titan build would stay away from buildings or dense infantry objectives and instead focus on hunting down vehicles behind enemy lines or on the flanks, and of course the counter would be an Engineer who has a build for killing titans. On the flip side, a strong anti-infantry Titan build would stay in the fray, surrounding themselves with infantry and close quarters combat to not only tear through enemies but also to shield themselves from enemy anti-vehicle players who aren't well equipped for infantry threats. The counter for this would probably be an arial vehicle like a jet or helicopter which can send out strong anti-tank weapons from beyond the short range of the high damage anti-infantry weapons.
Sort of like a tiered system, where Infantry are the "Weakest" but relatively the most versatile, traditional vehicles are the middle ground, offering high to moderate firepower for one or more scenarios, and then finally Titans at the top of the food chain, either being highly specialized superweapons or a Jack of all trades "Infantry but better" kind of build.
Instead of a combat triangle like Paper > Rock > Scissors > Paper it's like a combat dodecahedron where Mobility, Damage, and Tankiness can be arranged in dozens of different ways so every single fight is interesting instead of the common Battlefield meta where you just get in a tank and you're now invincible as long as you sit in the back of the map the whole game.
Honestly an amazing idea, I think another part that could further merge vehicles with titans and OP infantry shit would be to make it so that vehicles are called in the same way that titans would be called in or otherwise earnable with infantry skill. This would incentivize actually playing the game to get vehicles instead of waiting in the menu for five minutes to get your help back only to lose it by some guy with a better setup than yours as well as allow for a more diverse playing field.
They could also bring back the behemoth system back with maybe some battleship over the battlefield or new lore superweapon. With titans acting as tanks, could also keep jets and give northstar more flight freedom but less than that of a jets, and with how battlefield map is, maybe its fine to keep some part of the map barren of parkour objects, sort of a no man land where titans rule while having the cities ultimate playground for pilots.
Oh man imagine hearing "Enemy behemoth incoming" and some space battleship jump-drives into low planet orbit, that would be sick
Titans shouldn't replace tanks. they have two very different jobs and capabilities.
@@MJS-lk2ejI was brainstorming a near-future battlefield type game a while back and came to your same conclusion.
In my view modern tanks still have an important role because they have a low, flat form compared to mechs which allows them to conceal most of the tank behind hills. Modern tanks also have a very high speed in straight lines.
Mechs/Titans have an advantage in crossing impassable terrain with their articulated legs, but legs cannot safely reach and sustain the same top speeds as wheels or tank treads. The lightest titan frame could maybe move almost as fast as a tank or APC but realistically it would be dangerous and unstable and would likely be programmed to run below the limit. Their other disadvantage is they are very tall and can’t be concealed in open areas. They could crouch behind hills but still be mostly exposed compared to tanks.
Titans would have a better time fighting in tight areas with tall buildings or extremely rough terrain and tanks would dominate at long ranges in open, hilly spaces.
@@alexwhite3959 yeah, I think the same way. alot of people compare mechs to tanks, but that is a fallacy, a mech has many more similarities to a helicopter despite not being airborne, and the way you would use a mech is a combination of Tank and Helicopter Doctrine. I mean the developers of Titanfall subconsciously came to this same realisation with the Northstar class of Titan (and in anime where mechs are basically jets).
@@MJS-lk2ej You can deploy titan everywhere you want, not a tank. And tank vs titan wouldnt be fair since with the angle titan firing most of the time it will hit the upper side of a tank armor, which so far is typically very weak, a pilot with an anti tank/titan weapon is more useful than a tank and against tank.
I'm so glad you made this, you put my thoughts for the past couple of years into video form. I'm a fan of both series but Battlefield for longer. Two games are made for each other, Titanfall's setting and gameplay fits so well with Battlefield's sandbox nature. They are so similar that's its crazy they haven't done it yet It could straight up be the ultimate FPS game.
I'd be on board for this. I have been itching for a futuristic battlefield shooter since the old 2142. I really would like a re-make or continuation on that old game.
Could name it 2242.
@@spoiledsalad1851 They do like their game years to end with 42
@@pr0digalsun because 42 is the answer to all Questions
if this game was made and had the level of atmosphere and immersion as bf1 it would be a masterpiece
This sounds like such a cool concept, it makes me sad to think that it will almost definitely not happen
With a developing game like The Finals being made of devs who have actively worked on battlefield, i think their team are capable of producing this kind of concept. In fact, i think their game more effectively lines up with the idea ive always had for a "King of the Titan" style game mode. Where multiple squad style teams fight over a titan objective instead of cashing out a money vault. The match loop would be fighting over some kind of titan-mech in order to reach a point threshold like in The Finals. Points earned start when a captures a neutral titan, with bonus points for kills while they have the titan. Other teams can earn points by Capturing the titan from another squad or by destroying the titan AND/or by doing the most damage to the titan!
Also, for this part, 10:55 , I think that we should go light on tanks and go harder on titan vehicles, like you'd find a five man titan on the map and be able to hop in, also we should do tons of fast speeders and cars instead of tanks, also support air vehicles like being able to pilot a gunship and also drop off players, like Arma or smth
A 5 Man Titan would be sick. I'd imagine it being something Similar too the walking Fortress balam or the Barga from Earth Defense Force wuth the Titanfall aesthetician. Maybe it can have gisnt cannons,large melee weapons and whatever else might work for a big mecha.
A video outlining my absolute dream game. Just need modes that cater to each games playerbase. (i.e. 64v64 and like 10-20 player team gamemodes)
I'd love to see 128v128 but that would just not be possible with titans still being a cool impactful part.
I just want the teams who made BF1 and BF Hardline to make the best Titanfield game possible
That's a cool concept, but what I have in mind is instead a system similar to Star Wars Battlefront (2015) where players will all start off as normal Grunts with their chosen class and loadouts, and as the game goes on some players can have a chance to become a Pilot and redeploy.
Imagine the Battle of Gridiron from Bangalore's backstory, where you and a bunch of guys get suddenly jumped by a Pilot. Imagine the horror.
How that system should be implemented and balanced will be left to more discussion though.
I also really like the idea of being able to create your own pilot helmet, COD decal style, where you choose a base helmet type and you can add shapes like circles and lines that are "cut out" of the helmet and make up the visor.
Also you could potentially collect the helmets of other pilots on the battlefield, and exchange them for cash outside of game based on how long they survived/how many kills they got etc.
Huge battle fields could allow titans like northstar to fly a lot more. And ronin to have a better phase
I've always thought an open world game set in the Titanfall universe could be a lot of fun. Here's hoping Starfield mods make it happen
These ideas are amazing! It would the the FPS-collab of the century
This is a great idea, but there is one potential issue I’m thinking of. With such a large player count and short time to kill, I’m worried it would just become a spray/explosive fest where you’re just holding down the trigger at large clumps of pilots.
The sheer hype I feel whenever I see you uploading a video about Titanfall is immense
amazing video. Loved every idea especially the one about the drop pods, It would make respawning something enjoyable. I quite like the idea of a weak but fast moving titan, it has normal legs but an ability would be that they fold in to reveal wheels which would allow for fast movement around the map. very similar to D-walker from metal gear solid V
I had thought about this earlier in the year
Although my idea was a free roam single-player/co-op multiplayer
Where large maps can be cut out and used for huge attrition battles with many titans a side, and AI pilots and Titans (which I think the OG had)
I’d love to see this with a renewed bounty hunt game mode where some sort of huge four legged battle mech drops in or a massive heavy capital ship floats above the battlefield in the later rounds. Just imagine PvPvE+Boss with titanfalls movement, mechs and battlefields maps and vehicles. Pilots could be able to grapple onto the mech/drop ship, rodeo style and take out specific shield generators allowing titans to deal crazy damage while teams fight each other at the same time
I’ve thought about this idea for literal years now, it would be incredible if done right
This would be so incredibly awesome. I can only hope that if it happens, EA gives them time.
2 of my most played games put together that i enjoyed for very similar reasons would be amazing! You earned a new subscriber because im going to try and hopefully make some concept maps for this and maaaaaybe pitch the idea to a few northstar modders? idk if you can put map mods into northstar but it would be very cool
I'd play the ever-loving hell out of something like this. If think another respawning idea could be having simulacrum stations around the map that players capture and spawn into while their actually pilot is flesh in orbit.
Petition to make this a thing!
Edit: i think that you should be able to choose between Infantry or Pilot. Imagine normal people witnessing massive beasts duke it out, like in the intro mission in Titanfall.
when i made a video about the grunt mode mod a little while ago, i think i came close to this idea, but ultimately i think this would be much better than what i came up with. this idea is sick! :>
I think this would be a super cool idea! My two biggest pieces of constructive criticism are both wrapped up in the titans: maybe it could be cool to have the other earnable assets you mentioned in a sequence with the titan at the end? IE, first you get an airdropped special weapon, then an airstrike, then the titan or something like that. A more casual and more toned-down version of the kill streaks in CoD but you save progress between deaths. The other piece of constructive criticism is I think having fully customizable titans would cause havoc - as I recall that was one of the biggest complaints with the first Titanfall. I do, however, fully advocate more customization for each titan. Maybe they could have like three branching upgrade paths or something with a slightly different focus in each. All over all though, I think this is a super fun idea! The concept of calling in a drop-pod in game and smashing into the frontlines with three other pilots is perhaps one of the coolest ideas for a battlefield type game I have ever heard.
as far as titans go, i’d love some armoured core-style customisation. let players pick a chassis type and a leg type, with chassis determining artillery and health while leg type determines speed and stability, both combining to determine weight, and weight effecting both mobility and durability (high weight would need specialised legs to move quickly without toppling, but could have heavier armor, whereas low-weight has more freedom, but less armor?)
Idea for the match finale: instead of immediately going into a sudden death, the game starts a last stand mode, where the losing team has about 20 seconds to retreat to a larger troop transport that can hold the entire team, and have to defend it for 3-5 minutes while the ship "heats up" and prepares for take off, meanwhile the winning team has to try to destroy the ship with a lot of fire power, or board the ship to overload it's core causing it to explode. At the one minute mark, THAT'S when it turns into sudden death, to both simulate the lack of numbers, and to make the finale even more intense!
Great video, Swag! I'm glad you're also a Titanfall enjoyer, and it's a pleasant surprise since I started following you for your news coverage. (Yes, I did see your older Titanfall videos.)
From what I've seen there seems to be a lot of TF|2 players that also play Battlefield, including myself. What you're describing here has been on my mind for a long time, and I think it's a concept really worth exploring.
Your ideas are solid, but let me add to the discussion.
Firstly, although many may not see it as that important, I think the artstyle is a big part of what makes a game. A return to TF1's gritty industrial style would be great, mixed in with BF2042's realism. Apex Legends obviously followed the Fortnite path of being cartoony and pleasant-looking, but I don't think it would be compatible with a proper Titanfall/Battlefield game. I think it would be best if Apex was completely left out of this as its own thing, seeing as it's completely different gameplay-wise and narratively. Even in Battlefield people weren't very happy about the hero shooter esque "operators".
As for the timeline, it's easy to see such a game set somewhere between 2042 and 2142 (or perhaps even after 2142) in Battlefield terms, and in Titanfall terms obviously after the IMC reinforcements arrive in the Frontier. The latter especially fits the bill perfectly.
I must agree with your idea of Battlefield-sized maps with Titanfall parkour routes, but a lot depends on how A.I. is handled. If standard attrition rules were enforced, with every player being a pilot, I think scaling down the maps a bit and cutting the player count to 64 would make the maps much more lively, feeling more like constant war, everywhere, all the time. Another possibility that would fit the 128 player count would be that players start as grunts and earn their way to becoming a pilot. This would obviously be hard to nail down, depending on how pilots are handled.
Battlefield: Titanfall may just be a fantasy, but by god, if I were to only have one fantasy in my life it would be this. Again, amazing video. Thanks for sparking conversation about this topic.
Vince could definitely lighten his karma By combining both of the series, he headed that failed miserably, He has to feel some sort of responsibility
Failed miserably? Titanfall eventually led to the creation apex one of the most successful shooters while also holding a close colt following despite its awful release schedule. Battlefield while I’m less familiar I certainly garner’s some respect to be sure. Vince has done his best with every project he’s ever worked on and should be more than proud.
Vince was a juggernaut in his early days with Medal of Honor and Call of Duty. Then he had a rough time bringing TF1 into existence before crushing it with TF2 and Apex. (TF2's struggle was due to EA not development) Vince was only brought onto Battlefield AFTER 2042 launched and now after he's been running things for the past year, the latest 2042 updates have been well recieved.
I'd say Vince's karma is pretty fucking good. As Swag said, he's the Michael Jordan of making shooters.
You have no idea how badly I would want this game to exist. If titanfall 3 involved a grand operations mode I would be so happy
I'm at uni with 1 of my 2 main dream games being something like this, i swear when i get better at making games i will give this to you, i will deliver what was lost
It would be cool to take a page from starwars battle front and take the fight into space sometimes (for some objectives and maps).
The game implies that there are huge starships in orbit dropping titans and infantry. They probably don't just peacefully coexist in orbit while their forces are waging war on the surface.
Boraring parties could be basically playing amped hardpoint trying to sabotage the reactor or whatever, wading through a sea of grunts with titans squeezing through tight corridors, while titans and whatever else fight on and around the hull of the ship(s) taking out gun turrets and dealing damage directly.
This was kind of present in the titanfall 2 campaign to a limited and scripted extent. boarding hostile ships and hacking consoles on the bridge, while having titan battles on the surface of the ship (fighting viper)
If you want to go totally nuts you could declare that titans have magnetic feet and can walk on any surface of the ship in zero gravity. You could walk down the side of your ship with a doomed titan and eject directly into the enemy ship, take crazy angles with a sniper titan, and just generally play zero G attrition.
Yes please !!
I had wondered what this would be like if it was balanced in a style where 1 team was pilots + titans and the other would be standard humans + vehicles.
Imagining a small amount of titans and pilots vs large amount of Battlefield style humans and jets etc. seemed better the more I thought of it, just as Sir Swag said.
Although the way Swag suggested is much better than my tasty food for thought when waiting for a TF2 match...
Thanks you for putting this into words + a video team Swag
P.s. the only reason people play Apex is because they didn't make Titanfall 3...
Btw Is it a coincidence that it's in the same engine as the Half Life series?
As well as more conventional ground vehicles, player controlled aircraft are a must for this hypothetical. It’s actually funny because before this video I was ruminating on much the same concept, it would be fantastic if done right.
I was thinking about this exact same thing except for a couple differences. I thought about everyone starting as a grunt. Each class has a selection of gadgets. For example, the A-Wall could be exclusive to the Support Class, A drone could go to recon, a med drone to assault, and something for the engineer. But then you can become a pilot when available. Maybe even being able to play as specters, stalkers, or reapers in a system akin to Star Wars Battlefront
BF 2142 is basically far distant prequel for Titanfall
Technically the truth.
Have anti titan stationary guns, pak 40 style, engineers can repair, but it would force titans to either play conservatively or be really good at turning corners
This would actually be dope though, each pilot has their own titan but could call squad vehicles for the team. Maybe as well the titans could pick up and throw cars as well through buildings it'd be fucking awesome
Thank you! I've been actually thinking about this for a while. And the more I think about it the more I like it.
I really hope they lean into the bounty hunter status of pilots and give us higher survival rate and more titan customization
One of my favorite things to do in Titanfall 2 was attempt to play Monarch as a medic. It was hard as hell since the mechanics were only half-baked but it was fun nonetheless. PLEASE bring us a Titanfall with more team mechanics. I can think of no better way to do that than BF:TF
This is such an amazing idea! I would be so pumped for this
2:59 Titanfall is a casual game: Everyone is flying around and you can get killed in 5 seconds
Jets vs. Titan gameplay sounds like such a fun idea. I would play the shit out of that game if it ever came out. But it should also include a fully fleshed campaign as well, with the expertise of Vince Zampella and the resources of Dice/EA, it should definitely be possible
I’ve been waiting for another sir swag titanfall video and I can say you’ve finally delivered thanks
I didn't expect to hear the return of iniquity's raps in the outro of a Sir Swag video! I love the Titanfall community so much!
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought of a large scale multiplayer Titanfall concept before. There’s so much potential in this idea. This would also be great if they incorporated some kind of open world Titanfall game, I actually came up with some ideas for that concept before which was pretty fun.
ngl thats a genius idea, never thought of that. id love to see something like that happen for sure.
y'know? i'm convinced. this actually sounds really cool.
one of the things i really like as a concept is the idea of role-filling actually mattering in titanfall. something i've been wishing was a thing for years. in TF2 there isn't really any teamplay or strategy; you just try and move as fast as you can, and kill enemies as accurately as you can, while controlling objectives. but having actual strategy like having recon groups moving through the map and scouting, or having support players like healers come through and save a team sounds really REALLY interesting and fun to me!
I definitely can imagine titans in battlefield, but not the movement. I think it would be very hard to implement that level of vertical gameplay into a large scale maps that battlefield usually has
Watching this video makes me wonder how any game studio has failed to straight up hire Swag as a lead designer, give him a team of veteran coders and engineers and a blank check. Its a guaranteed money printing machine. I love this concept and I want to see it happen @EA
Ive had this idea before. I agree with everything except for the destruction. I believe levolution like in battlefield 4 would make the entire experience more epic.
I think battlefields V score streaks could be the way to call in a titan on a cooldown for you but the points your squad earns is shared for everyone that way the map isnt flooded with titans but is still accessible to everyone not just swuad captains
I could see a Team Fortress 2 style class loadout system, but more open.
Classes have abilities and stats specific to them, but you have a lot of freedom of customization.
Ending w Inequity was chefs kiss 🤘
This is truly one of the greatest ideas in gaming history
Genuinely sounds like an easy GOTY. Plus EA, think about how much money you could make, mmm cosmetics. WW1 pack or something. But Fr this sounds fantastic, I can imagine a battlefield style mass rushing a titan. Honestly vehicle combat could be insane. Fighter jet vs a titan could lead to some straight up transformers shit.
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This makes sense bc respawn has said that they didnt make titanfall 3 bc it wasnt new / different from tf2 and this puts a new spin on it.
Like in BF1, the losing team gets a gigantic war vehicle that can be controlled by many people. That could be the introduction of a super titan. Maybe even like in that one Halo mission, people have to go inside and destroy core parts.
The titan from 2142 sounds hilariously fitting for this, maybe buff the hell out of it to make it a behemoth-tier vehicle, and it has to be destroyed by capping the missile silos or by boarding and pushing the reactor rooms as infantry. That sounds fucking sick.
Love Iniquity's song at the end: putting some "respek" on my boy's name
All I needed was the title and thumbnail to realise. I need this!
I really like the chassis idea for the titans, but I wanna take it further.
I'm picturing certain titans being exclusive to classes. You can have standard well rounded, big buffs, fast swifts, recons, and supports in the regular game but the twist is that their titans correlate with them. I haven't played Titanfall in years so I don't know if this is too out of line but this is what I thought of. It feels like a perfect balance of classes of Battlefield and the varied titans in Titanfall.
Now this… would be beautiful to see. Titans, pilots, destruction, grunts, reapers, spectres, stalkers, ticks everywhere.
this vid got my hopes up lmao this sounds like so much fun
Imagine cqb with titans supported by tanks at range and air support... we can still dream
the idea of the drop pod is good, in fact, the same system used in Planetside 2 ought to be used here. literally just copy/paste it. you set down a Transponder Beacon, it fires a laser in the skies, picked up by a space ship which sends down pods of soldiers. its great!
What could be a fun mechanic is that the goblins (dropships) could be flown in by players at the start of the map then when they exit a grunt takes it’s place and the player can jump out and also the players themselves could also be responsible for the evac where they need to gather dropships and warp out at the end of the game
Here’s my take, in battlefield 2042 and battlefield 5, there is a squad leader system where the whole squad of up to 4 players earn points. The more points all 4 players earn, the more crazy the call-ins for the squad leader. In battlefield 5 you could call in a small airdrop to a full blown nuke. That is where I would put the Titan under so only the best squad can use it.
Titans and destructible buildings. Yes please
you literally just made a video based around my actual titanfall dream. i love you so much swag