I just did a diy mottling stencil with a large needle and index card. Then I used a Tamiya rattle can. OMG! It's freaking awesome. I have been struggling with the mottling issue for forty years, now it's museum quality! WOOOO WHOOOO Thanks. The rolled up sponge tip is equally awesome on my King Tiger. Again I am so happy, wow! Peace my modeling brother. Keith Kolb USN/Ret
When Japanese Navy aircraft started being transfered to land based in the pacific, they were mottled over with green paint to suit the new jungle environment. This was often done with sea sponges dipped in paint.
@@KitKabinet Thank you for your work. I'll look up references for you. If you ever get a NOVO kit, there is a technique in the instruction sheet where you cut the tip off an old brush to produce a similar effect.
@@Bearpilot_01 I remember that, they copied that from the Frog sheets of the same kits. What I meant was that apparently the sponge method was already in use on real aircraft, far before scale modeling got popular.
They also scraped salt from carrier decks, applied it to the planes before painting. The salt was then rubbed and washed off to produce a chipping effect. /s
Thanks, in fact the second method (with powdered dry pastels) is a Regia Aeronautica pattern (in Hungarian service); ua-cam.com/video/pDI7rXgoA5s/v-deo.html
Yes; although Vietnamese MiG 17s had many different camouflage patterns, this technique should be suitable for the mottle patterned ones, such as the famous '3020'.
Thanks! I'd like to draw your attention to my dry pastel-mottle video too; the effect is more subtle and actually quite easy to achieve, and I'm amazed it's not being used more often. At this moment it's becoming my new favourite way of mottling; ua-cam.com/video/pDI7rXgoA5s/v-deo.html
I used a sponge when I built the Airfix 1/24 Messerschmitt bf 109E of Helmut Wick back in the early 1990's before I owned an airbrush -not that an airbrush could be used for the heavy dappling anyway. It came out really well.
You can indeed see on historical photos that the fuselage camo on Wick's machine looks quite gritty. One wonders what was actually used for applying that camo at that time!
I spent the first 10 years of model making trying lots of things to achieve the effects, even spray cans and stencils - nothing works as well as airbrush. Took me another 10 to get the really important part, the compressor - tube tires and spray can proppellants just don't cut it. A cheap air brush will teach you mixing, thinning, air pressure management and techniques, and they are dirt cheap. And, very very fun (except cleaning them ugh! I'd almost rather throw the airbrush away rather than clean it lol)
I'll have to experiment with this. I'm painting a 1/72 scale Bf109E Jg27 north africa cammo & haven't quite the steady hand with a airbrush on so small of subject. Thanks for the video.👍
You're welcome! Je kunt in feite allerlei soorten spons/schuimrubber gebruiken. Van bv een keukensponsje kun je met een hobbymes een strook afsnijden. De truc is dat je de strook vervolgens strak oprolt (als in de video) met plakband zodat de structuur fijner wordt maar toch poreus blijft om verf op te nemen. Hope this helps!
Thanks! Japanese mottle was sometimes applied more roughly than for example German or Italian patterns. But for a more subtle effect the dry pastel method (see link in description) works very well too.
Cool video, I've got a Ki-43 that is painted in all over silver but khaki mottle camo. I was going to use a sink sponge to add the camo. Would you suggest it? Also, did I see correctly that you added some white paint to the green to soften the outline of the camo spots?
No, the glaze medium that I used with the brush has a milky look to it, but it dries transparent. A piece of sink sponge can work, but do roll it tightly into the tape; that way the 'grit' of the spots will be finer. You then have to test on paper how wet your sponge has to be (usually fairly saturated with paint, but nearly dry to the touch).
Thanks and thanks! For another mottle camo pattern you may also want to check the dry pastel (chalk powder) method, which gives a more subtle effect; ua-cam.com/video/pDI7rXgoA5s/v-deo.html
Yes, these are all water based acrylics that I used; mostly Vallejo's model color (brush-on variant). In the past I also used the sponge technique with Humbrol enamels, but I think acrylics simply work so much easier.
Hey ! Thanks for the tips. Both your techniques look really good. Nicer to see this than to get almost insulted becaue you do not own an airbrush x) ( history student talking, airbrush will be for ... well later ! ) See you !
Thanks! Although I do have an airbrush myself, I still use the soft pastel technique often, and occasionally this sponge technique as well. Also, several ww1 planes were actually camouflaged in real life with the use of sponges (like the Albatros biplane).
@@KitKabinet the soft pastel technique is really good, never saw that one used this way. I ll try mottling with your sponge+glaze method on an Airfix FW 190 in the upcoming days ;)
a really super method caus i don't have an aerograph and don't like it . i gonna try it so fast in my Bf109e desert camo , thanks to share . another thing i don't understand why do u have so 256 subriver cause ur vidéos are top .
Thanks! I have a new video coming up (end of week 11, 2020) with a second method of doing mottle camo without an airbrush. You can already preview the results in this video; ua-cam.com/video/XODhYALzWKg/v-deo.html
You're welcome :-) Although I have started on airbrushing recently, I also want to try out some more non-AB techniques to see if I can still work around the use of an airbrush. Cheers
Oh, but I dO own an airbrush as well. It's just that I like doing different techniques now and then, plus that this is a nice technique for people who don't have an airbrush (like for example many beginning modelers) or who don't have enough experience yet to try mottling small patches. But yes, an airbrush and a steady hand will give a more subtle effect. Although the dry paste/chalk powder method as linked in the description will give an effect nearing that of an airbrush!
@@mattiapresti7295 I first started in high school. In 1976 and I still have nowhere near mastered it, it was just so much fun for the new paint effects you can do it sort of motivates you to continue. The most important thing isn't even the airbrush (cheap ones work just as well as the $200 ones) - it is the compressor. Just get the compressor first, an oil-filled one NOT an oil free" - and the rest will follow.
I just did a diy mottling stencil with a large needle and index card. Then I used a Tamiya rattle can. OMG! It's freaking awesome. I have been struggling with the mottling issue for forty years, now it's museum quality! WOOOO WHOOOO Thanks.
The rolled up sponge tip is equally awesome on my King Tiger. Again I am so happy, wow! Peace my modeling brother. Keith Kolb USN/Ret
When Japanese Navy aircraft started being transfered to land based in the pacific, they were mottled over with green paint to suit the new jungle environment. This was often done with sea sponges dipped in paint.
I didn't know that! Seems like the sponge technique wasn't so unusual after all. Thanks for the historical info.
@@KitKabinet Thank you for your work. I'll look up references for you.
If you ever get a NOVO kit, there is a technique in the instruction sheet where you cut the tip off an old brush to produce a similar effect.
@@Bearpilot_01 I remember that, they copied that from the Frog sheets of the same kits.
What I meant was that apparently the sponge method was already in use on real aircraft, far before scale modeling got popular.
They also scraped salt from carrier decks, applied it to the planes before painting. The salt was then rubbed and washed off to produce a chipping effect. /s
I am about to paint a 109 Trop without an airbrush. What you have shown here will be a great help, thank you!
Glad to be of help and good luck with your build!
This is the technique I’ve been looking for. Thank you for the detailed video.
You're welcome!
You are genius! Glad to see non airbrush techniques
Thanks for the compliment, and you're welcome!
Lovely job. Thank you for sharing.
Very useful method especially for Italian Regia Aeronautica aircraft!
Thanks, in fact the second method (with powdered dry pastels) is a Regia Aeronautica pattern (in Hungarian service); ua-cam.com/video/pDI7rXgoA5s/v-deo.html
Fantastic sponge idea 👍
Thanks🙏you're welcome!
Nicely done camouflage. That Airfix Zero is a nice kit.
Thank you!
Thanks for this method!!! Can it be used for MiG-17 Vietnam camouflage?
Yes; although Vietnamese MiG 17s had many different camouflage patterns, this technique should be suitable for the mottle patterned ones, such as the famous '3020'.
@@KitKabinet thank you very much!!!
Really enjoyed that.. I’ve never been happy with the effect when I’ve done it but will try it next time I need to do it
Thanks!
I'd like to draw your attention to my dry pastel-mottle video too; the effect is more subtle and actually quite easy to achieve, and I'm amazed it's not being used more often.
At this moment it's becoming my new favourite way of mottling;
ua-cam.com/video/pDI7rXgoA5s/v-deo.html
This is really useful! Thanks for uploading this and your channel deserves more subscribers
Thanks! I just recently hit a hundred subs, and intend to go on with the channel for a good while!
@@KitKabinet good tip. If you mount it in a straw, you can use it more like a brush.
I used a sponge when I built the Airfix 1/24 Messerschmitt bf 109E of Helmut Wick back in the early 1990's before I owned an airbrush -not that an airbrush could be used for the heavy dappling anyway. It came out really well.
You can indeed see on historical photos that the fuselage camo on Wick's machine looks quite gritty. One wonders what was actually used for applying that camo at that time!
Excelent video with good tips, keep the good work . greetings from Portugal.😉👍
You are welcome, and thank you for your compliment! 👌
Thanks so much, Ive been looking how to do this sort ofcamo painting.
Ingenious.
I spent the first 10 years of model making trying lots of things to achieve the effects, even spray cans and stencils - nothing works as well as airbrush. Took me another 10 to get the really important part, the compressor - tube tires and spray can proppellants just don't cut it. A cheap air brush will teach you mixing, thinning, air pressure management and techniques, and they are dirt cheap. And, very very fun (except cleaning them ugh! I'd almost rather throw the airbrush away rather than clean it lol)
@@robertmaybeth3434 I believe you, I tried this sponge method a few times and never got any really good results.
yes i think this is the better method for Japanese aircraft as it was hand applied in this case. sea sponges really! thats makes scence. very clever.
I'll have to experiment with this. I'm painting a 1/72 scale Bf109E Jg27 north africa cammo & haven't quite the steady hand with a airbrush on so small of subject. Thanks for the video.👍
You're welcome! I'll upload another mottle video in the near future which you may want to check out. Good luck with the 109!
@@KitKabinet 👍
@@mhos6940 New video here on applying mottle camo with chalk (dry pastel) powder! ua-cam.com/video/pDI7rXgoA5s/v-deo.html
Thx
Very helpfull! Waar kan ik dit soort sponzen kopen in Nederland?
You're welcome!
Je kunt in feite allerlei soorten spons/schuimrubber gebruiken. Van bv een keukensponsje kun je met een hobbymes een strook afsnijden. De truc is dat je de strook vervolgens strak oprolt (als in de video) met plakband zodat de structuur fijner wordt maar toch poreus blijft om verf op te nemen.
Hope this helps!
Excellent video and a fantastic result
Looks a great deal more realistic than airbrushed,
Thanks!
Japanese mottle was sometimes applied more roughly than for example German or Italian patterns. But for a more subtle effect the dry pastel method (see link in description) works very well too.
Cool video, I've got a Ki-43 that is painted in all over silver but khaki mottle camo. I was going to use a sink sponge to add the camo. Would you suggest it? Also, did I see correctly that you added some white paint to the green to soften the outline of the camo spots?
No, the glaze medium that I used with the brush has a milky look to it, but it dries transparent.
A piece of sink sponge can work, but do roll it tightly into the tape; that way the 'grit' of the spots will be finer. You then have to test on paper how wet your sponge has to be (usually fairly saturated with paint, but nearly dry to the touch).
I used a sink sponge to try camo on a ME 109 and it was a bit too spotty for this type of paint job.I liked the effect it made but it was different.
Cheers mate
Great video! Ill remember this, new sub
Thanks and thanks!
For another mottle camo pattern you may also want to check the dry pastel (chalk powder) method, which gives a more subtle effect;
ua-cam.com/video/pDI7rXgoA5s/v-deo.html
You are Genius :D pls more tips
Haha, thanks! I'll upload a second method for mottling without an airbrush soon.
What kind of paint is used here? Would it work with acrylic?
Yes, these are all water based acrylics that I used; mostly Vallejo's model color (brush-on variant).
In the past I also used the sponge technique with Humbrol enamels, but I think acrylics simply work so much easier.
Hey ! Thanks for the tips. Both your techniques look really good. Nicer to see this than to get almost insulted becaue you do not own an airbrush x) ( history student talking, airbrush will be for ... well later ! ) See you !
Thanks! Although I do have an airbrush myself, I still use the soft pastel technique often, and occasionally this sponge technique as well. Also, several ww1 planes were actually camouflaged in real life with the use of sponges (like the Albatros biplane).
@@KitKabinet the soft pastel technique is really good, never saw that one used this way. I ll try mottling with your sponge+glaze method on an Airfix FW 190 in the upcoming days ;)
a really super method caus i don't have an aerograph and don't like it . i gonna try it so fast in my Bf109e desert camo , thanks to share .
another thing i don't understand why do u have so 256 subriver cause ur vidéos are top .
Thanks!
I have a new video coming up (end of week 11, 2020) with a second method of doing mottle camo without an airbrush. You can already preview the results in this video; ua-cam.com/video/XODhYALzWKg/v-deo.html
The new video on applying mottle camo with chalk (dry pastel) powder is here! ua-cam.com/video/pDI7rXgoA5s/v-deo.html
Im going to do a 109 too, there's so many different types of 109 camos.
Very useful, thanks. I'm trying to get away from airbrushing.
You're welcome :-) Although I have started on airbrushing recently, I also want to try out some more non-AB techniques to see if I can still work around the use of an airbrush.
Cheers
Be more useful if he said what this glaze medium is...
👍
спасибо!
It's a nice try.... honestly though airbrush is $20 and up, compressor is $35
Oh, but I dO own an airbrush as well. It's just that I like doing different techniques now and then, plus that this is a nice technique for people who don't have an airbrush (like for example many beginning modelers) or who don't have enough experience yet to try mottling small patches. But yes, an airbrush and a steady hand will give a more subtle effect. Although the dry paste/chalk powder method as linked in the description will give an effect nearing that of an airbrush!
@@mattiapresti7295 I first started in high school. In 1976 and I still have nowhere near mastered it, it was just so much fun for the new paint effects you can do it sort of motivates you to continue. The most important thing isn't even the airbrush (cheap ones work just as well as the $200 ones) - it is the compressor. Just get the compressor first, an oil-filled one NOT an oil free" - and the rest will follow.
@@mattiapresti7295 For models the water based acrylics work better and not so fumey.
@@mattiapresti7295 cheers mate