Supercharged Civic TYPE R VS Integra TYPE R Track Battle & Roll Race
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Acura Integra DC2 Type R B18C VS Honda Civic FA5 FD2 Type R K24 Supercharged Track Battle, Roll Race, lap times.
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2008 Honda Civic Si sedan
150,000KM on the chassis
110,00KM K24 Bottom End, K20 Cylinder Head
FD2 headlights and side skirts
FD2 rear bumper
trunk and J's Style rear wing
Champ White paint job
Enkei NT03 wheels
Continental ECS-02 tires
K-Tuned front BBK
Hawk DTC-60 brake pads
Pro-Series rear rotors and brake pads
Annex CSP coilover kit
Hardrace control arms and bushings
Full-Race cat-back exhaust
Kraftwerks supercharger kit
Koyorad radiator
Vibrant Performance Gen3 Large Catch Can
Vibrant Performance exhaust flange and u-bend
Buddy Club P1 Limited Edition racing bucket seat
Buddy Club Super Low Down seat rail
K-Tuned billet shift knob
Pro-Series battery
K-Tuned Valve Cover
K-tuned Shift cables
K-Tuned Oil Cap
K-Tuned Thermostat Housing
K-Tuned Ignition Cover
SUNTEK PPF Track Package applied by AP Shield
Valvoline vr1 is perfect for cat, really is not a racing oil, not too much zcinc content
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Congrats guys this was one of the coolest episode both Type-R's are absolutely epic specially tastefully tunned & set by you guys and if i would must choose between them would be a bit hard but DC2 is more nostalgic might have more value since are becoming a JDM cult classic by now so much special.. Hopefully you will try to do a Type-R NSX someday that would be really interesting.. Since we watch you guys from the other side of ocean ( Europe ).. My kids say hello to both of you !
Hello Fellas! Great video! It’s inspired me to build an Integra Type R for track and canyon driving. Is it possible to replicate an Integra Type R using a base or GSR Integra? If so, how might I go about doing it? Your advice is much appreciated.
Dave making the torque wrench tightening sounds with his mouth will never get old for me.
I literally laughed out loud! 😂
Meme for sure. I do this all the time 😂
@@autocrossaholicI do this all the time too 😂
I always do this lol
Probably my favourite thing on UA-cam!
As a former paint guy (on the production side not the application side) I can take 3 guess as to what happened. 1) The formula they use can not be scaled down properly to make one aerosol can. Probably a pint or quart formula. 2) The base product they use is different from what your painter used and so it is never going to match perfectly (but honestly that color is pretty far off for that to be the issue IMO). 3) The guy mixing up the color was careless and added too much color. Number 3 is my vote.
That B series just sings so well. Such a good car.
Yes, That was fun! We feel the same, never want to give up our Integra due to its visceral driving experience... A king - pure driving pleasure. At the same time my wife wont part with her Civic, because its such a comfortable car for road trips. Even with go faster parts, the Civic holds tight to the feeling of the GT cars of old - capable, fun, and refined. Two different cars with their own personalities, strengths and attributes - You did a great job of showing these two cars, as always, looking forward to what's next.
Best channel on UA-cam I know I say every episode. I seriously look forward to your guys vids every Wednesday and Saturday. I would without question take that integra over the civic if I had to choose.
I see that EF peeking in the back at 8:18, would love to see some content featuring that!
Hah! I'm not the only one 😁
Oh lord, look at that ITR. Just perfection imo.
it is.. love the itr always
What a pair of rippers. The DC2 was the trophy car of my day and they are super quick. Great build and it was awesome to see it test it's old school muscles against a newer "type R".
agreed
You know the UK DC2 came with those exact style Enkei wheels in 15" and a US spec front end so you've basically made a UKDM homage ❤
I had one in 2001, really miss it
I still have mine. Bought in 2007 and don't think I'll ever get rid of it
Love these type of cars. Especially the DC2. Reminds me of my 97 M3. Not a ton of power, but just enough to ride the limits, which is what it's all about. Plus, it's so analog when compared to cars of today. You guys should get one 😉
The shots of the 2 vehicles on the racetrack is just perfection….those are such magnificent cars❤ please keep doing what you’re doing guys, always looking forward to the weekend to enjoy another one of your episodes🎉
I got a very similiar built dc2 type r. I love hearing you guys describe the car. I couldnt agree more. Such a pure driving experience. No bullshit, and you can run it to the ragged edge.
I have 1999 type RX.i baby it daily driver.
I appreciate these kind of videos. It’s always relaxing to watch, plus it’s relatable. You guys are awesome, keep up the videos like this, the builds and stuff. Been watching you guys for years 🤘
MORE TRACK DAYS!!!!!!!!
The old b18c is such a wonderful engine, absolute perfection
In comparing Type R to Type R (clone), you have to give it to the Integra. 1 second Lap time differential between them but the Civic has a supercharger helping it make that power down the straights. NA to NA the Integra would've posted the quicker lap time.
Yeah because they put a terrible tire setup on the civic. It’s ridiculous. 225 stock size with street tire vs 200tw track tire it’s no comparison
@@JDMHMONGBOY96yupp. If the civic had the proper tires it would make a better lap time. But I think that's why they did it so it would be a closer race
@JDMHMONGBOY96 completely valid point my dude. I almost felt like they wanted it to be a wheelspin monster on exit and in the end they were shocked it maintained grip.
Depends a lot on the track too, I doubt it’s a large track with a bunch of space for the civic to utilize all the extra power
Long live the golden era.
on the lip paint, it was probably the clear coat that turned it yellow, that's if it was a laquer-based clear coat. Touch-up direct paint is great, and water based, then I would go over it with spray max 2k clear, which is a legit clear coat with an activator in the bottom that you puncture and mix before spraying its the real deal.
(Just make sure to wear a respirator when using a real deal clear with an activator.)
I did that years ago with my itr lip. Learned not to apply clear to the rattle can NH0. Then i tried the 2k clear years later and worked fantastic. and paint matched to 26 year old champ white pretty good to where I only noticed.
2K clear is the shit.
@@JordieG8 it didnt yellow and looked good for 2 years. It was never meant to last. I drove my itr from Nova Scotia to Toronto in 2020 for work and it got destroyed with rock chips (lots of roadwork in trash Quebec) so for 60$ for base and clear I was very much ok with it.
@@KeanF84 I used 2K on a set of Brembo’s I refinished. I powder coated them, scuffed, applied the decals and gave them 2 heavy coats of Matt 2K clear and they look perfect 2 years later. I had some sick on wheel weight fall off one of my rims and hit the caliper and I was able to just polish the scuffs out of the caliper. As you said, great stuff for a rattle can.
Is NH0 meant to have clear? I thought it was a solid colour. Maybe that's why the colour ended up too dark. [Boring fact: the colour of the red H badge is Milano Red, another solid colour.]
@@TassieLorenzo yeah im pretty sure it is.. but the rattle can stuff looks good without clear to be honest. But the 2kclear rattle can livens it up.
"It just wants you to beat on it as hard as you possibly can, it just feels so good" Dave
Hondas bring the views because they are attainable and daily / track driveable! To that end there is no shortage of amazing Hondas out there you haven't touched yet: Fit, CRX, NSX, Element, Prelude, and all kinds of Acuras including Canadian market only Acuras.
What honda is attainable in the Canadian market except for the 01-up civics and fits? The crx is not attainable. It is easier to attain a Porsche GT3 than a ef civic or crx or a eg civic. Clean ef civic and crxs are hitting 50K prices and guaranteed in 2 years just a rusted ef shell will be so rare, it will be 20K. That type-r in 2 years $150K. I find many Canadians can't see the future forecast in the older Hondas so they are not buying them until it is too late...then they will complain the prices are too high😂
The transition from the shop to the track was beautiful, music put a smile on my face. Awesome video as always guys.
holy shit 10lb custom magnesium wheels, you guys really balled out! i'll have to try those tires out after i finish my R888R. my wheel/tire setup is 34lbs right now as well, i cant imagine taking another 4lbs off!
Thank you for getting back to the track with content lately! Love the builds but need that 70/30 ratio of builds to track. Also you should keep track of lap times in all the cars
As a Civic owner for decades, I get it. The old school stuff is magic.
Love the Type R style 15's! Some custom offset and width FD2 type r style wheels from Augment Wheel (with a reverse stagger of course!) would be amazing!
So glad to see you take the DC2 out again!!!!
me to.. im a proud dc2 type rx owner...
I love it. Development, upgrades, track testing. Cars being built and used as they should.
I missed your track days so much guys. Please try to get more in next year. Maybe another Ontario 1500 if it still exists.
Honda Boyzz !!!
Yoll we need a full type R battle, Ek9, Dc2, Ep3, dc5,Fd2,fk2,fk8,fl5
Interweb team lets make this happen, speed academy keep killing it this is the stuff legends are made of!!!++
Hooned around in a well setup Integra GSR back in the day and yup man what a car, so visceral, so engaging, everything just works. Can only imagine a properly setup Type-R like yours.
2 Honda legends on the track together is 🔥! So sick to see how they almost match lap times in very different ways. Great driving as always, love to see more
I never knew the zinc content in the oil could be bad for cats! I looked it up and talked to my bro (who is an actual chemist) and he totally agreed. Good to know!
Great idea to match the wheels it gives a family reunion feel to it
Such a good video, I love seeing you guys at the track with your builds 👏👏
The DC2 is good, it's raw, it's a true driver's car. But, the only thing better than the FD2 is the FD RX-7. Can't change my mind. Wish I could drive both of those cars myself!
Would be cool to see you keep optimising these cars, see how fast you can get the laptimes
Thanks Dave. You’ve saved me from wasting time/energy trying to find a Honda that can replicate what I had with the ITR. It won’t happen, unless another one falls into my lap somehow.
Fantastic series amd love this head to head track comparison. You are this HondaBoy's dream. Keep up the great work guys!
Base facelifted RSX's also came with OEM Enkei wheels. Nice to see even the Type R's come with the same quality brand.
Same with TL Type S waffles
how you guys speak about the DC2 type R, i agree and I also feel the same about the S2000. The S2000 to me is another one of those peak Honda's cars that is so much fun to drive. No it's not the fastest at all by any means but on track, setup well it's so much fun to drive.
Valvoline High Mileage oil helps prevent oil leaks.....maybe should start putting it in the BMW 😂
My favorite channel love these dudes!
Every time I'm thinking I've finally grown out of fwd high-reving hondas, you guys remind how much fun and manageable these things are to drive at the limit
Love these videos. Thanks guys.
think the biggest issue why cars today can't compete with the 90's classic JDM is cause today's standards insafety and has changed as well as technology demands increasing weighing cars down plus lets be honest car manufacturers have lost the way of the past with an exception in some cases for example the BRZ/86 twins.
The BRZ/86 is definitely the best brand new 10-15 year old car you can buy! A real throwback to the peak ICE era that cars like the FA5/FD2 or E90 M3 come from. The FA24 makes just as much jam as the K24 now, too.
Been here since the s2k and frs builds....keep it up!!!
Fun fact: A real FD2 Civic Type-R can be imported into Canada now.
The power figures on that C5 are so good. Amazing how long those engines hold up.
I loved this. Literally ecstatic about the EF. Cannot wait to hear what you have to say about that car once you have it on the channel being built.
Two beauties built and cared for by two best friends! Nice work, fellas! And as always great attention to detail on both cars!
The integra type r will always be king no matter how much faster other type r are.
My favorite type of video from you guys.
What incredible cars! The FA5 is my DD for many reasons. Its usability in all conditions, either at the track or on the highway, by myself or loaded up with my family. Is why itll be more meaningful to me. It just does Everything well. The DC2 is hands down a better 'sports' car. And something anyone would love. But the FA5 for me is more enjoyable.
I just got back from a 2 hr rainy, wet-leafy backroads hoon session in mine! It’s my favorite daily i’ve ever owned by a mile. Sway bars and 235 square 200TWs make for a hell of a ride :)
Just want to take a minute to express how incredible your shop looks with the lifts in the back and the banners on that 90 degree bend.. Very dream JDM garage esque looking… Glad you guys represent the Hamilton area.
Love Hondas.. especially white ones! I agree, the integra by far has more heart in it. Light weight simplicity. Both look awesome! I miss all this track content! I feel like I know TMP like the back of my hand and I haven’t even been there!
The civic also needs custom FD2 type R wheels up front to get rid of that spacer and have a wider tire. And genuine FD2 or FN2 type R seats with low seat brackets.
Fd2r seats are slightly different to the fn2 ones, fd2 has slightly higher bolsters and no side airbag better to just swap in recaros instead which are much lighter then the oem
@@mgrassoo5082 As long as i know they are identical. Maybe you think about EP3 type R seats or base model FN1.
GREAT BATTLE GUYS!
Both cars are just…wow!!!
You have two beautiful cars there well done guys!
Great comparo. But I think the better, more apple-to-apples comparison would be this combo, but if the DC2 had one of the Jackson Racing chargers from the period. Would definitely better balance the match and be more generationally appropriate. Granted, those are near impossible to find anymore, but still... would be cool.
You guys are awesome and Deserve way more subscribers.
a true sport car doesn't need to be quick. Handling always comes first ! That's why old school type-R price are rocket high now.
PS: i am a ek9 owner
Double white on white type R track day! Living the dream boys!
The civic isnt a real type r..
@@PhantomShane914 well aware if that "Actually" Andy.
Integra is my favourite. I'm bias for 90s Honda. Type R Integra is a good investment as well. My friend had a eg civic back in the 90s. Not so fast in a straight line but awesome for cornering.
I love.your build videos. But I adoooore your track videos! I need a DC2. I need some track time asap, it's been too long 😢
This was a treat!
This video is awesome. Great watch!
I would love to see you guys do an early 2000’s “period” build with an EM1 only using parts from the era.
Great video love both of the cars but the Integra Type R is just special. The white Civic wheels look SO much better than the other ones you had. I always thought that something about them was off.
nice wheels, not sold on the splitter
Cheap clear coat normally has a yellow tint to it.
It could be but they typically put hindered amines in clear coats to prevent degradation. Now if it was an epoxy clear or base that would explain a lot.
If it's already yellow then you can't complain about it turning yellow 😂
Saw wheels on fire not too long ago, it was just attached to a Tesla! HAHAHAHA!!!!!
I don't know how this channel wasn't on my subscribed list when I have been subscribed so I'm catching up. Good stuff guys!
Best half an hour on a Saturday morning! I’m really surprised at the time on the extreme contacts
Love the track comparison vids
More track days and relatable car vids ftw!
Love these videos 👍
Both are beautiful cars but nothing like the DC2. I’d keep it too!
Skunk 2 bushings have been terrible on my build. The 4th set split and cracked on the rear control arms.
Just ordered the Energy Suspension Black Series replacements. Much better quality.
Both beautiful type-r vehicles. Love them brothers!
Such a great video!!!
That DC2 is perfection.
anything Type-R keep it coming!!!
That was a super cool video, hope you get all the cash for the car 👌🏻
I wish there was a demonstration showing how easy the front splitter could be removed and installed and how the brackets work.
I'd love to see a matchup between the FA5 and a current Type R. They're in a similar power range but would be cool to see Honda's new school suspension and traction tunes against its older version.
Great video guys. Love the Honda/Acura love!
Great cars! Cheers guys. FA5 will look even cooler with some attention to the rear caliper.
Here for the speed academy track days!
S2000 has entered the chat....?
DC2 ftw! Then again i am biased 😇😎
The FD looked to be "hopping" out of the corners 🤔
Enjoyed this one guys 👌🏻
When changing the ITR oil, the Honda oem service book says either 10w40 or 5w40.
If the engine should have even better 5w50.
I don't see the 5w30 oil.
Great video as always,
Great content!
Another great one! I find the fake torque wrench noise hilarious! I really want to drive a integra lol
Spacers are just fine as long as you are using long enough lugs to run through the wheel, spacer, and hun all through the same lugs and have enough thread engagement on the nuts. Not those spacers that have their own bolts that you bolt to the hub then bolt the wheel onto the spacer.
Is that a gen 3 Civic hiding in the back of the shop?
The cars are exceptionally beautiful! Thank you for sharing your masterpieces.
Would had been nice to see the FA5 without the super charger. That would had been a nice comparison.
By any chance how much do both cars weigh?
I always love the attention to detail, but it’s killing me that the center caps are not lined up with the valve stems. Do I have worse OCD than Pete??
If Honda were as OCD as Pete, they would have those little notches to make sure the centre caps only fit the right way! They don't, so it's fine I think. 😂 NGL, the FD2 tribute not having black wheel nuts like the real FD2 did bug me for half-a-second... I was like "surely Pete knows the FD2 Type R is meant to have black wheel nuts, it doesn't look right with the chrome ones..." but I got over it, lol.😂
That's a plywood with a maple veneer so really just plywood the veneer portion is 2% of the thickness. It's the right one to use though. I went through home depot and lowes and weighed every single sheet and strength vs weight the maple veneer plywood from lowes is the best at 46 lbs per sheet. Both of those conti tires are pretty slow.
Those new wheels for the Integra are sick!