You had the first full review of these bindings, and while other reviewers are just going to release their first review, you're already on the follow-up video :D Killing it on the review front, this year, haha! Thanks for the follow-up!
Dude I was like who TF is that guy…then you started talking and I was like whooooooooowwwww it’s Malcolm 😂 feels like I just „know“ you with glasses beanie and buff…nice video as always ✌🏻
Im so stoked i remembered to check if YOU did a review on these. Ive been skeptical since last season. Now im sold! Nice to see someone who does thorough reviews and videos. Im not a fan of the "cool guy" youtubers. Dood you are as real as it gets. Stoked on this! Gonna go buy right now. Thanks Malcolm
I have a basic set of no frills bindings (no canted base or high back adjustment) and was planning my upgrade now that I have more experience with my board. You had me sold after your first video and now you made me confident with my decision to go with the supermatics. I was originally planning on getting the Burton Step Ons for this season but you just saved me some $$$. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Nidecker take my money!!!
I just got mine yesterday! can't wait to season start here in South America (Argentina). I am 46 and I am really tired of bending over, just a resort guy, not backcountry, not park, just cruise!!!
Thanks for the no bs, honest follow up review. Aging into the demographics you noted. Beats being toes up:). Last season the bindings were falling apart on the board used at the local "mtn". A vertically challenged area. Replaced by a set of Flow NX2-TM (Nidecker owns flow for those unaware) for the convenience factor. Use to be one of those dolts that over cranked the straps. Took a few runs to adjust to the "soft" feel of the strap system. But I prefer the feel and ride quality. As I said I was a dolt. These Supermatics would make life even more convenient.
With any binding it is about the adjustability and making sure it is centred and set how you like it. Even though this has a big trick to it, you still fully reviewed it on top of a detailed consideration of the step in function, and appreciated who may use each function. Precious little info out there and this review hits the nail on the head for anyone considering this binding.
Great review on both videos. Aas someone that's been riding since the late 80s and 53 years of age I can say I've been contemplating step-ins for a while. I snow host -guide new visitors at the resort and find that Im in and out of the bindings sometimes more than I want to so looking at these for ease. Also the fact that they take any boot really makes them versatile as we may not all want a Burton boot or have more than one board. Once I get mine I'll give my review but looking at your review Im hoping I can just say yeah they are great :) !
Rode these indoors for the first time.Worked well but had a lot of pain underfoot! Realised i am used to cranking down my Union Force really hard, but these are way more responsive. Put them much looser than i normally would and they rode much better with no pain! Can't wait to try these in the mountains.
Really looking forward to your return this season Malcolm. It will be my first season Snowboarding instead of Skiing and your videos have done nothing but hype me up!
The other category of folk is people who ride regularly with skiers and/or kids. Yes probably still the older bunch but it just allows a better wavelength connection to the group. I just started this year on Burtons and it makes a subtle but sizable difference once you're in and out super quick.
Great review Malcolm! I did like your initial comprehensive review a few months ago and pre-ordered a set right away. As it so happens, I am one of those older, fatter and out of shape boarders, who can no longer manage with conventional bindings. Most people don't realize how difficult it is for folks like me to reach (repeatedly) all the way to the straps and strap in. It is actually very exhausting and saps our energy very quickly. Many times, I would stop boarding after just one or two runs. It's not lack of stamina, as I ski too - for 6 to 8 hours per day. I have great hopes that these Nideckers willl resolve a major issue with my use-case for snowboarding. Can't wait to start the new season with these bindings.
Thanks for the update Malcolm, your views are always valued..I pr-ordered mine with outdoorXL back in April after your first review £435 uk inc of delivery.. expected delivery early September, Glad you still think they are good. Im 56 been boarding a few years now, no problems with strapping in, just want the convenience. our dome allows us to ride the poma lifts strapped in, but these should be great on holiday. Thanks again.. Paul
Hey Malcom! This season is going to be my first one on the snow and I was pondering whether to go for skis or board, but then I found your channel and my mind is now made up. I'm excited to drop down the mountain for the first time, and watching all your tutorials already makes me feel like an intermediate rider (I'm practicing the movements in my living room lol). This might sound dumb, but as the season is approaching, I was wondering if you could do like a packing run-through before heading out to the mountain. And I don't mean just the gear (board, helmet, goggles, etc), I mean the ultra beginner stuff like what are the things you will need up there but don't know you need it kind of thing (things you wear underneath the snow gear like socks underwear etc, extra pairs of something, or anything else you can think of). It can be a short little video while you're packing your suitcase to kick the season off and it will really help first-timers like me. Anyway, thanks again for all your hard work! Love your channel.
Thanks for the idea, maybe I'll do it 🤔 Honestly for me though where I live it doesn't drop that cold, so underneath my clothes I just layer with regular clothing. When I used to work in Canada I had to be a bit more technical with proper baselayers and down jackets underneath. That was because it was really cold there. Beside that, good ski socks are helpful, not thick furry ones either, you don't want your feet to have that much room in your boots. Besides that, suncream, lip balm, and all the other stuff you mentioned!
@@malcolmmoore Thanks for the response! That was all the info I needed. I'm super stoked to get out there! My only worry about going with the snowboard was all my friends are on skis and I don't want to hold them back (I doubt rental has these Nidecker step-ons yet). But I can't just not do it, the snowboard looks like so much more fun and gives you more freedom to do stuff rather than just go from point A to point B quickly. And I got you to thank for, you have a really good channel for getting people into snowboarding. Which is why I would like to see you in-person coach more beginners (even though you did a few already) because a lot of people are put off picking up the snowboard because they think it's too difficult compared to skis, so when they see beginners picking it up easily it will give them a boost (speaking from personal experience here). Thanks again! Keep up the great work.
As someone who has tried skiing and is beginning to snowboard i can already say snowboarding is much more fun! Good choice hehe hope you have fun on the slopes
4:00 I could see that as a big issue - even though you say you needed to push quite hard, you still managed to push the release loose with your naked thumb. I can imagine just accidentally swiping your rear foot over the lever could cause it to fall off. If they come out with a revised version they could probably do with something like a latch under the heel that needs to be firmly pressed down by your weight against the ground for the locking mechanism to come off.
Does anyone actually dangle their board with one foot when on a chair? American's maybe of course with their obsession with not putting the safety bar down!
Eyeing up these for teaching, because you’re in and out all the time in beginner group sessions. I considered the Burton step-in but these at least mirror what students have on their feet with regards to demonstrating straps.
Yeah, when teaching beginner lessons I just strap in and out the first time to show them how it's done, and then I just step in and out as I go on from there. If you're teaching a group of beginners they can be amazing in helping you dart around the slope!
@@jimmybushkill5295 Maybe, but I haven't tried those. I have tried bindings from the most brands and when I switched to Ride C-8 that made a huge difference for me.
I am not a tight binding guy…like I never tighten them to the last click, and I can confirm these are still a pain in the ass at least half the time. To step in easily every time, you’d need to have the straps looser than I think most riders want them. They aren’t nearly as good as advertised. With what nidecker charges for these things it should be automatic and it isn’t. For the price, you shouldn’t have to change how you like your bindings to get them to work…they should just work.
I just mounted these up and have one weekend of riding on them. I was initially disappointed in how difficult it was to slide my boot in with my bindings as tight is I generally like them. I found that loosening the ankle strap a few clicks before pulling your boot out makes re-entry much easier. After you stepped back in, you can quickly retighten the strap those few clicks. It is a little annoying that there are a couple additional steps I thought I’d be avoiding with these bindings, but overall I’m still very happy with them. Both exiting and entering the binding is still done without having to sit down and is accomplished in much less time than traditional bindings. Once you figure it out, it only adds a few seconds to the process and you can still have your straps as tight as you like them.
Apparently your videos werent enough. The new color got me over the finish line in buying them 😋 Got a few runs in the snowhall in but I’m stoked to get them on a real slope in december. My skier friends like me better already 😂. Thanks for your reviews (and other videos)! Now working on your switch techniques! Have a great season!
Bought these as an upgrade to my old GNU "Speed Entry" (Rear Entry) bindings. Was hesitant to upgrade to Clew/Burton Step On/K2 Clickers because those all seem difficult or even impossible to get onto when finding yourself on a slope with no flats in sight and they also seem more prone to getting blocked by snow compared to rear entry where a lot of the snow can get pushed out of the way from the entry motion. The Flows iterated on the GNUs eliminating two steps and these iterated on the Flows eliminating one more step. For me quick in/out is necessary since most of my friends are impatient skiiers lol. Can't wait to try them out next week.
@@KrisOO17 There are two downsides I found so far. 1. They are slightly heavier although I do need the extra large ones. 2. The GNU's seemingly unnecessary extra step of the ankle tightness latch turned out to be a pro in some scenarios such as when riding long lifts because you can very easily loosen it for the ride up for comfort. Can't do that on the Supermatics but you really can't do that on any other style of binding other than the GNU style anyway without actually loosening the strap (or boot on some styles of step ins). Pros: 1. They are way more responsive than the GNUs and feel very secure. 2. Had no issues with snow preventing getting latched in (but no deep powder here). 3. I can get in and out of them quicker than skiiers can get in/out of their bindings. Ohh how the tables have turned. 4. It is so fast I find myself walking around instead of skating in many scenarios and in long lift lines I can just hop out real quick to relax then hop back in right before it's my turn.
Thanks for the solid review and follow up! I couldn’t help but chuckle a bit when you mentioned they’ll be giving a tether strap with these after coming from your other video where you have a friendly jab about how “other step in bindings giving those straps for a reason!” Haha
I just got my supermatics, I find it hard to lock it to the last tooth of the gear on the back. it often stops at the second tooth. I bought it at the end of the season with some discount and now I cannot test it on snow, I can make it lock at the last set of tooth if I really try hard on a yoga mat, I worry that I won't be able to do that on softer snow.
Usual fine clear cool and minty communicating from MM. might demo at xscape next week. I don’t mind the bending but can see the joy. And I’m 72 in March 25:)
nice one... didn't expect a product review from you mate... been watching lots of your technique vids, which are brilliant... And funnily enough im looking for new bindings, i have flows, so more than happy with them, thought about burton stepins but i love my boots too much, so its between getting new flows or these. you have one of the most positive reviews of them, there are a lot of negative ones... you might have made my mind up.,. and yes i'm a bit older, thanks for that !! lol...
Thanks. Great review, I got the Nidecker Team bindings last year so will be looking at getting these as my next set after I've done a few seasons with my current ones. Hopefully they'll come down in price by then!
I’m exactly what you explained tu be the target market. I’m 51 and I’m not in the best shape. I just found a pair of Supermatics that I ordered online. Rode them for the first time on Sunday. So far, I really like them. I wear a men’s US size 9 boot. They fit into the medium binding, but barely. I realize this may vary by the boot model. I just wanted to say for people looking at the sizing chart, there’s a little bit of flexibility around those recommendations.
Replying to this super late as well. I have US Size 11 Burton Photons and have the XLs. I'm 99% sure I could've fit them in the Ls and it probably would've been better. No big issues of extra movement, but I did have to use the discs oriented so that I used the better adjustability to push the bindings as far towards the toe edge as possible.
Thanks for addressing these questions! One thing that I don't remember being touched upon in either video is if you can rotationally adjust the high backs. I assume not but again, for the demographics, not a big issue
I did a beginner lesson with someone on the Burton step ons. She kept having to use my binding strap to scrape off the snow packed on the bottom of her boots to get them to clock in. Thought that was ironic. Glad the supermatics don’t seem to have that issue.
Thx for the informative review. I love to track around the mountain with my skiing partner and these bindings looks so effortless to put on. I can't wait to try them out. I did just manage to pre-order a set but seems like most places are out of stock already.
Thanks for the review Malcolm! I think yet another target audience for these are people who may even be in good shape but are often riding with skiers and have to endure their bickering about the amount of time we take at the chairlifts 😉. Not sure if this has been asked already, but what about the riders that like to use a more aggressive forward lean angle on the highbacks for carving. Can this be done with Supermatics and will it somehow compromise the ease of step in or step out functions?
Well, I'm a year late but I have the '24s and I like a bunch of forward lean. The Supermatics have limited adjustment and the max forward lean is like in the middle of the adjustment range on my Union Force Classics. It is enough for me, but only just. I would say the Supermatics are actually easier to get into than normal bindings with the same amount of forward lean. The highback starts from way back when you step in and then you can put your weight into it to get everything into place. In normal bindings you have to wiggle your boot and crank the ankle strap to get your heel into position, especially with pretty stiff boots. I got these for riding the tiny hills around where I live where the tow lifts and strapping in take a good percentage of time at the hill (usually minimal lift lines).
Hi Malcolm. Thanks for this review. Did you notice however any wearing out of your boots on the heel from slipping in and out of the bindings? I know there is a little wheel, but I tested these bindings with my boots in the store and I did notice that the heel was kind of suffering a bit (the rubber that is) after a while. These were my Burton Boa's size US 10 (UK 9, EUR 43) in the size L bindings. Of course, it's not 'lubricated' by snow and tested in dry conditions, but I want to make sure my boots won't suffer. You have quite some experience with these. Did your boots show any sign of wearing off? Did the rubber suffer somehow? And... would it be smart to maybe pick a size XL for the bindings when ordering in your opinion? I ruined my previous boots with Roxy step-in bindings (tore off the rubber by putting them up and down) so I am extremely careful of what I buy when it comes to bindings. Many thanks for your reply!
Fast approaching 50. These will do for stomping around the Portes du Soleil on my weekends. Cheers for being honest about the "great for old folks" line. ;-) haha
Great follow up to the initial in depth ride and review! Pre ordered mine from Outdoor XL in the Netherlands right after your initial review. Been on the Burton Step Ons the last 2 seasons. Love them, super responsive with the sole of your boot locked to the binding. Will be interesting to compare the responsiveness when i get these this season. Was just notified by Outdoor that binding delivery will be delayed from September till November.😠🤣 Can't wait! Pray for Snow!!!
Missed out on the '23 batch so just pre-ordered the '24 stock which should come in October. They are £399 by the way. I've also ordered new board and boots (end of season '23 sales) for the first time in over a decade so already counting the days to next season's snow........groan....
I know this is old but I just got a pair of these and wanted to know if they slide in a lot easier when it’s wet from the snow mine slide in okay but the way yours looks like it slides like butter? Also I haven’t worn these on the mountain yet but I’ve noticed my boots are rubbing a bit and the hammock cushion seems like it’s getting tore up some from putting my foot in
You answered my question about the sliding when wet just watched that part lol thank you. Only question now is how durable are the cushions on the footbed and hammock
used them a couple of times, but now i tried to set the spoilers more lateral, dont seems to find a possibility to lateral move the spoilers. they seems part of the mechanical thing and don t allow any lateral move.
Great binding BUT it damages (wooden) board decks! I watched your reviews and finally bought an XL for my Jones Hovercraft with a bamboo deck. Great function, great hold, a little heavier than my old K2 Chinch. But only after a few days of use I have big dents in the wooden deck from the thin fins under the moveable heel part that cause a lot of pressure on a small area on the deck. I guess after some more days the wood will be really damaged and exposed or split. I am already in contact with Nidecker for a solution, imo a simple, thin plate under the binding would prevent these damages. Until there's a solution for this problem I wouldn't recommend the Supermatic for boards with a wooden deck, like many of the high-end Jones boards have.
I think these bindings will be revolutionary. What worries me is that there are so many moving parts that wear and tear parts are inevitable. The question is will Nidecker provide these part for replacement or will we have to buy a whole new set of bindings?
Exactly as Sam said, I actually toured the European distribution centre the other day and they are stocked up with spare parts. North America will be the same 👍
Be careful, when you ride the chairlift I accidentally pressed the lever with my other foot and the board came off. First time I was barely getting on the chairlift and the board fell down. Next time, again, I accidentally pressed the lever but this time I noticed it and was able to put on the binding again. Overall I am very happy with these Bindings.
Hi Malcolm, thx for pointing me to these two excellent reviews! One more question: Are they easy to step into in deep powder or does it just make more sense to put them on like normal bindings in such scenario? Thx
If it was really deep, probably makes more sense to use them like a normal binding, to be honest if you're just riding powder in a resort unless you're getting stuck, hopefully you won't need to take them on and off in the deep snow!
After these videos on these bindings I was sold. Went over to buy some and sold out and not a bigger size till next year anyway. Going with the WarPig board. I’m 6’3 255lb intermediate rider what bindings should I look at for this season that would be similar feeling to those?
Hi, thanks for this great review . I intend to buy it when they release the XL version. On another note, would you be able to do a video about binding angles and highback forward lean. I am an early intermediate and struggle for turn from heel to toe on steep red slopes . I wonder if adjusting binding angles and changing highback setback will help with the process
So, they don´t work for me. My foot size is 12,5. You said they´ll release the XL on this season. Is that confirmed? Because I´m from Brazil and I really want to buy thoses for my snow trips. Thanks a lot for your videos. They are all helping me a lot.
My wife and I are both in our 50s now. We have a love hate relationship with flows, to the point that I have gone back to unions after the top if the range flows ripped the heal off of two pairs of my boots. I think it’s pretty likely that one of us will be buying these at some point.
Hello Malcolm! I have a question, my toes stick out a little too much with these bindings and I can fix it if using the offset disk with the triangle towards the tail or nose. But that creates an offset, will this be an issue? Because in the manual it says you can put the triangle on the disk to the heelcup to create a offset towards the heel, but I found that if I put the offset towards the tail or nose I have 3mm more room to shift my binding towards the heel, creating less toe sticking out. Would love to hear your opinion on this. Please help me out
Not exactly sure what you mean, but if you've picked the right size bindings for your boot size, then you should be able to centre you binding on the board without any problems. If you're doing that but just getting overhang then it might just be that your board is too narrow for your foot.
The sizing should be alright, I've checked the size charts. I have boot size US 10 EU 43, Nidecker Supermatic's size L and Bataleon Goliath 159. The Supermatic's come with the offset disk, the offset disk has a triangle, you can point the triangle towards the heelside to create an offset of 3mm towards the heelside, or you can point the triangle towards the tail to create an offset towards the tail of 3mm, while doing so you can also move your bindings up and down to move the further towards the toe or heelside. So by doing that I can move my binding a little more towards my heelside, which creates less overhang on the toes. I was wondering if there is a downside to this?
Hi Malcolm, your original review and this follow up convinced me this is the bindings I need. They arrived about 2 weeks ago and I can't wait to try them in Les Arcs in Jan. Thanks to more of your vids I want an Insta 360 x3 now too! Keep making your awesome vids.
I really appreciate how comprehensive your reviews of the Supermatic have been, thanks! Do you know if there'll be any changes to the 22/23 model, or is staying the same?
I'm 22 a pretty good rider and i absolutetly WANT these. I often ride with skiers and i am tired of them having to wait for me. I wanna hop of the chair lift, simultaneously step into the binding and don't have to sit down or strap in my foot.
Thanks a lot for the detailed original review, and this awesome follow-up! Could you please provide an indication for your board measurements? Waist width and width underfoot? Will really help me with some proportions since I intend to pre-order a set of these :)
Hey Malcolm, well done! How would you compare these to responsiveness to other brand/models? That might be a bit helpful. Say a burton Genesis or Cartel? Clearly Union Atlas more stiff and responsive, but can you draw any comparisons?
Thank you for your advice, im hard core union, but im getting older and now thinking if canterd strata instead if contact pro, to relieve knew pressyre, still able to strap up standing up, but would the convenience of step ins as well as strapping up on the chair lift 🤣🤣🤣
I love the idea, and really would like them….I’m going to be 50 when I am in France next spring, so maybe fit into the older demographic, but I ride a fairly stiff (but old) Atomic alibi renu with Union force bindings and love the responsiveness, so maybe not for me?
Ciao Malcolm! Is there the option to adjust the Supermatic forward and backward with the 2x4 bushings? To center the bindings and boots in snowboard axle. Sorry for my english, thanks Malcolm Bye!❄️🏔️🏂:)
I wish Nidecker added some extra rubber or foam underneath bindings to a) add more shock absorption and b) protect the surface of the board thanks to that.
Awesome, thank you for this! Just looked them up on a few Japanese online shopping sites and they seem to be retailing at 53,900¥ (which at today's conversions is pretty much the same as the USD/CAD/EUR prices you quoted). I was going to ask if the footbeds are canted but I took a good look at some of the product shots and they do seem to have some cant in there. Yay. Finally, I really wanna try these out in knee-deep pow. I have one regular "first gondola" situation where I ride and one-upping my Step-in buddies would be hilarious. 😂
Step on boots were really just designed to work with step in bindings, not just because of the clips, but because of how they have been designed to work without straps over the top. In theory you probably could get a pair in these bindings, like how you could probably get them in a set of normal bindings, but that's not what they were designed for.
@@malcolmmoore Thank you for the reply! Yeah I’m just trying to save money and use the boots I already have. Just wanted to see if the cleats on the Burtons would mess with or damage the straps on the Supermatics.
Hi Malcolm, love your content. I was just wondering I wear a Burton Photon Boa in 8.5, I pre ordered these bindings in large. According to the size chart should fit my boots, but will there be to much play in them?
Your parting comment was that you felt these were the best of the bunch... Assuming you're grouping the Burton step ins in that...? What is that these have over the Burton set up (other than the obvious 'you can use your own boot'...?) Thx :-) great review btw...
For me these just feel like a normal boot and binding setup when you're in them. The burtons have a very different feel to them. Some people actually really like them, and they are very responsive, but you are quite aware of the contact points on the side of the boots where you are anchored in. I find the boots are also just way too stiff, again some people like that though. I do think these are also slightly easier to use, but again the burtons do work well and you would just get used to either. Basically for me, these are a normal binding with step in functionality, whereas the burtons definitely have a different feel, flex, and ride to them
Hi! Is it okay to put these bindings on softer boards (flex 4 or lower)? I ordered one for my stiffer board so my skiing friends won't need to wait for me 😄. But for simple convenience I would like them to have also on my softer board 🙂.
Love your videos! I noticed on one of your more recent releases that you were (still) using the Supermatics. Are they your daily go to Binding? or do you just use them for recording? (allowing super quick in/out)
I actually use them most of the time, recently I've been using an old board because there's alot of rocks around so rather than swapping my supermatics I've put some old bindings on that board too, but most the time I'm on the supermatics yeah. They've actually just sent me the new carbon ones which I'm quite surprised at how much I like them, I thought they would be too stiff..I'll have a comparison video of them out in about a weekm
hi there, I am experiencing some issues .. if I make em just few clicks. it is all ok to step in/out, but then my back foot when carving little harder is moving slightly in the bindings(toe side carve- heel lifting-the whole boot)- so it is pretty annoying.. but then if I crank em hard. then I have real trouble getting in/out- mainly IN. any experience/advice ? boot 41/supermatics M size. Thank U all
Thanks for the review. Are u still using usual bindings in some cases or u stick only to nideckers? I am in process of buying new set. An can't choose between usual bindings, for example Union Atlas or Burton cartels, and nideckers.
I was able to grab 3 pairs of these (1 for a buddy, 2 for 2 new boards I ordered). I'd say the thing that excites me about these, is that after a full day of sitting down and getting up to strap in, where room is limited, and on mountains where the runs aren't long (so you're on the lift a lot), this can make a big difference. I'm in great shape, fit, etc. But after several hours of sitting down on the ground, then pushing up to get going, it starts to wear on me. I really hope these make a difference. I'd also be curious if you can strap back in while getting on the lift to make exiting a no stop event. And, one of the boards I picked up this year was an Amplid Pentaquark. I'll be curious as to how well this pairs w/ it as that board will need a lot of control. If I don't find I have enough control w/ my first set of these bindings, I can't imagine it'll be difficult to sell the 2nd pair.
I’d be interested to know how you think they are marketing these compared to the flow bindings which start about $100 less. Are they higher level components overall or are they just focusing on the entry mechanism as being more efficient. I would guess some parts actually may be the same between different flow models and these.
They're definitely focusing on the entry method being easier, which it is. Despite the similar look they have a very different feel to flows. They basically don't really market the flows because they have a dedicated fan base already. Riding wise you'll find more breadth within the flow range, with more responsive and lightweight bindings on offer, but if you're looking for ease of entry then the supermatics are for sure better.
Ahah thanks sending me there and I have another question 🙋 Some guys testing it say it s quite hard under the heel because there s no Eva foam like on other bindings and it makes quite unconfortable after long day riding... Your thoughts?
Finally a binding which will replace decently my old Vans/Switch best ever Step In systems. Hopefully I will find them in Quebec, Canada. Of subject, what is the board in the video? Seems to be a extra wide...
It's the amplid dada, you can see it here: amplid.com/?sPartner=MalcolmM And yeah it's very wide, great for big feet! Very similar to the Ride Warpig. I'm moving onto the Nidecker Escape 162XW this winter though!
Hey Malcom! I've just done a week with these bindings and noticed that with my big feet the toe straps tended to slip/ride up onto the top of my boots, rather than pull backwards and down towards the heal. Is that something you noticed? It seems like the tow straps can't be angled down enough towards the toe edge of the board, again, i'm on the upper size limit for these bindings with the XL's not being available yet?
Yeah I got that a little bit too being at the upper end of the size limit as well, tweaking with the other strap length that you lock in, and the bit that connects the ankle and toe strap, seemed to fix it though. I have since tried the upcoming XLs and they're alot better at fitting around a larger boot.
Hi Malcolm Another great video. Thank you so much. I could not find on the web a reseller in France or in Europ to order for a pair of these beauties . Any help ? I live in Grenoble not far from l'AdH. Perhaps see you there for Eurocarving this season. Cheers.
You had the first full review of these bindings, and while other reviewers are just going to release their first review, you're already on the follow-up video :D Killing it on the review front, this year, haha! Thanks for the follow-up!
Thanks Carlos!
Dude I was like who TF is that guy…then you started talking and I was like whooooooooowwwww it’s Malcolm 😂 feels like I just „know“ you with glasses beanie and buff…nice video as always ✌🏻
Haha thanks man 🙌
I know, right? Without the helmet and goggles, Malcolm actually have hair, eyes and nose just like the rest of us. 😂
Im so stoked i remembered to check if YOU did a review on these. Ive been skeptical since last season. Now im sold! Nice to see someone who does thorough reviews and videos. Im not a fan of the "cool guy" youtubers. Dood you are as real as it gets. Stoked on this! Gonna go buy right now. Thanks Malcolm
Enjoy them!
I have a basic set of no frills bindings (no canted base or high back adjustment) and was planning my upgrade now that I have more experience with my board. You had me sold after your first video and now you made me confident with my decision to go with the supermatics. I was originally planning on getting the Burton Step Ons for this season but you just saved me some $$$. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Nidecker take my money!!!
😂🥳 awesome, you'll love them!
Did you make the right decision...?... im also torn between the step ons and these
I just got mine yesterday! can't wait to season start here in South America (Argentina). I am 46 and I am really tired of bending over, just a resort guy, not backcountry, not park, just cruise!!!
Thanks for the no bs, honest follow up review. Aging into the demographics you noted. Beats being toes up:). Last season the bindings were falling apart on the board used at the local "mtn". A vertically challenged area. Replaced by a set of Flow NX2-TM (Nidecker owns flow for those unaware) for the convenience factor. Use to be one of those dolts that over cranked the straps. Took a few runs to adjust to the "soft" feel of the strap system. But I prefer the feel and ride quality. As I said I was a dolt. These Supermatics would make life even more convenient.
With any binding it is about the adjustability and making sure it is centred and set how you like it. Even though this has a big trick to it, you still fully reviewed it on top of a detailed consideration of the step in function, and appreciated who may use each function.
Precious little info out there and this review hits the nail on the head for anyone considering this binding.
Thanks Kuan ✌
Great review on both videos. Aas someone that's been riding since the late 80s and 53 years of age I can say I've been contemplating step-ins for a while. I snow host -guide new visitors at the resort and find that Im in and out of the bindings sometimes more than I want to so looking at these for ease. Also the fact that they take any boot really makes them versatile as we may not all want a Burton boot or have more than one board. Once I get mine I'll give my review but looking at your review Im hoping I can just say yeah they are great :) !
Hi man. I also come from the 80s... 52's years. I've been snowboarding since 1987. Great! And, as say in my city, DAJEEEEEEEE!
DC and Nitro are also offering boots for Step-on system now.
I preordered mine when they were available for preorder. Can't wait to leave my friends while they're strapping in.
Great review once again. I am one of the 'older' people who is beginning to struggle clipping in every time. Thanks
Thanks Manny, nothing wrong with that, we'll all be one of the 'older' people at some point!
best review i have ever seen, literally said everything
Thanks Valerio ✌
Rode these indoors for the first time.Worked well but had a lot of pain underfoot! Realised i am used to cranking down my Union Force really hard, but these are way more responsive. Put them much looser than i normally would and they rode much better with no pain! Can't wait to try these in the mountains.
Awesome enjoy 🙌🙌
Thanks for these videos man, I got these bindings delivered this morning and I can't wait to ride them in a few days.
Great follow up. We’ve pre-ordered our thanks to seeing yours and your review. See you on the hill next season
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Really looking forward to your return this season Malcolm.
It will be my first season Snowboarding instead of Skiing and your videos have done nothing but hype me up!
Awesome, I'll be back in early December 😀
The other category of folk is people who ride regularly with skiers and/or kids. Yes probably still the older bunch but it just allows a better wavelength connection to the group. I just started this year on Burtons and it makes a subtle but sizable difference once you're in and out super quick.
Yeah I totally agree 💯
Secured a pair right after your first video. Thanks for the follow-up Malcolm!
Awesome!
Didn't realise you had covered all this in a separate video from your other one. Thanks.
Great review Malcolm!
I did like your initial comprehensive review a few months ago and pre-ordered a set right away.
As it so happens, I am one of those older, fatter and out of shape boarders, who can no longer manage with conventional bindings. Most people don't realize how difficult it is for folks like me to reach (repeatedly) all the way to the straps and strap in. It is actually very exhausting and saps our energy very quickly. Many times, I would stop boarding after just one or two runs. It's not lack of stamina, as I ski too - for 6 to 8 hours per day.
I have great hopes that these Nideckers willl resolve a major issue with my use-case for snowboarding.
Can't wait to start the new season with these bindings.
Awesome, I hope you enjoy them! Fingers crossed they make your life easier 🙏
Where were you able to preorder them? The website hasnt had the option to preorder for some reason.
@@cooliestguy45 - I pre-ordered them online at the-house in June.
@@cooliestguy45 I ordered them on House
As being a patroller on a board becomes more and more widely accepted across the worlds mountains these could be a total game changer
Great review. I am grabbing these due to the detail and confidence you provided on functionality and utilization.
Thanks for the update Malcolm, your views are always valued..I pr-ordered mine with outdoorXL back in April after your first review £435 uk inc of delivery.. expected delivery early September, Glad you still think they are good. Im 56 been boarding a few years now, no problems with strapping in, just want the convenience. our dome allows us to ride the poma lifts strapped in, but these should be great on holiday.
Thanks again.. Paul
Cheers Paul, yeah, I've really had no isssue with them at all!
Hey Malcom! This season is going to be my first one on the snow and I was pondering whether to go for skis or board, but then I found your channel and my mind is now made up. I'm excited to drop down the mountain for the first time, and watching all your tutorials already makes me feel like an intermediate rider (I'm practicing the movements in my living room lol).
This might sound dumb, but as the season is approaching, I was wondering if you could do like a packing run-through before heading out to the mountain. And I don't mean just the gear (board, helmet, goggles, etc), I mean the ultra beginner stuff like what are the things you will need up there but don't know you need it kind of thing (things you wear underneath the snow gear like socks underwear etc, extra pairs of something, or anything else you can think of). It can be a short little video while you're packing your suitcase to kick the season off and it will really help first-timers like me.
Anyway, thanks again for all your hard work! Love your channel.
Thanks for the idea, maybe I'll do it 🤔
Honestly for me though where I live it doesn't drop that cold, so underneath my clothes I just layer with regular clothing. When I used to work in Canada I had to be a bit more technical with proper baselayers and down jackets underneath. That was because it was really cold there. Beside that, good ski socks are helpful, not thick furry ones either, you don't want your feet to have that much room in your boots. Besides that, suncream, lip balm, and all the other stuff you mentioned!
@@malcolmmoore Thanks for the response! That was all the info I needed. I'm super stoked to get out there! My only worry about going with the snowboard was all my friends are on skis and I don't want to hold them back (I doubt rental has these Nidecker step-ons yet). But I can't just not do it, the snowboard looks like so much more fun and gives you more freedom to do stuff rather than just go from point A to point B quickly. And I got you to thank for, you have a really good channel for getting people into snowboarding. Which is why I would like to see you in-person coach more beginners (even though you did a few already) because a lot of people are put off picking up the snowboard because they think it's too difficult compared to skis, so when they see beginners picking it up easily it will give them a boost (speaking from personal experience here). Thanks again! Keep up the great work.
As someone who has tried skiing and is beginning to snowboard i can already say snowboarding is much more fun! Good choice hehe hope you have fun on the slopes
4:00 I could see that as a big issue - even though you say you needed to push quite hard, you still managed to push the release loose with your naked thumb. I can imagine just accidentally swiping your rear foot over the lever could cause it to fall off. If they come out with a revised version they could probably do with something like a latch under the heel that needs to be firmly pressed down by your weight against the ground for the locking mechanism to come off.
Does anyone actually dangle their board with one foot when on a chair? American's maybe of course with their obsession with not putting the safety bar down!
Eyeing up these for teaching, because you’re in and out all the time in beginner group sessions. I considered the Burton step-in but these at least mirror what students have on their feet with regards to demonstrating straps.
Yeah, when teaching beginner lessons I just strap in and out the first time to show them how it's done, and then I just step in and out as I go on from there. If you're teaching a group of beginners they can be amazing in helping you dart around the slope!
If you only want to have 1 binding for everything, Ride C-8 is number 1 binding this year for sure and the price is really good.
As a big Ride supporter I still would take Rome black labels over the c-8
@@jimmybushkill5295 Maybe, but I haven't tried those. I have tried bindings from the most brands and when I switched to Ride C-8 that made a huge difference for me.
I have brought supermatic last week, this video are very useful! thanks.
Awesome glad they help!
Great review, mate! Very tempted. Like all your videos - it made me want to get out onto the mountain again!
I am not a tight binding guy…like I never tighten them to the last click, and I can confirm these are still a pain in the ass at least half the time. To step in easily every time, you’d need to have the straps looser than I think most riders want them. They aren’t nearly as good as advertised. With what nidecker charges for these things it should be automatic and it isn’t. For the price, you shouldn’t have to change how you like your bindings to get them to work…they should just work.
I just mounted these up and have one weekend of riding on them. I was initially disappointed in how difficult it was to slide my boot in with my bindings as tight is I generally like them. I found that loosening the ankle strap a few clicks before pulling your boot out makes re-entry much easier. After you stepped back in, you can quickly retighten the strap those few clicks. It is a little annoying that there are a couple additional steps I thought I’d be avoiding with these bindings, but overall I’m still very happy with them. Both exiting and entering the binding is still done without having to sit down and is accomplished in much less time than traditional bindings. Once you figure it out, it only adds a few seconds to the process and you can still have your straps as tight as you like them.
i'm the lone boarder in a group of skiers, and these bindings and very early flows are my go to; i hate to be the one people are waiting on.
Apparently your videos werent enough. The new color got me over the finish line in buying them 😋
Got a few runs in the snowhall in but I’m stoked to get them on a real slope in december. My skier friends like me better already 😂.
Thanks for your reviews (and other videos)! Now working on your switch techniques! Have a great season!
Thank you! This just solidified my decision to get these for this coming season. Cheers
Bought these as an upgrade to my old GNU "Speed Entry" (Rear Entry) bindings. Was hesitant to upgrade to Clew/Burton Step On/K2 Clickers because those all seem difficult or even impossible to get onto when finding yourself on a slope with no flats in sight and they also seem more prone to getting blocked by snow compared to rear entry where a lot of the snow can get pushed out of the way from the entry motion. The Flows iterated on the GNUs eliminating two steps and these iterated on the Flows eliminating one more step. For me quick in/out is necessary since most of my friends are impatient skiiers lol. Can't wait to try them out next week.
So how are you liking them?
@@KrisOO17 There are two downsides I found so far.
1. They are slightly heavier although I do need the extra large ones.
2. The GNU's seemingly unnecessary extra step of the ankle tightness latch turned out to be a pro in some scenarios such as when riding long lifts because you can very easily loosen it for the ride up for comfort. Can't do that on the Supermatics but you really can't do that on any other style of binding other than the GNU style anyway without actually loosening the strap (or boot on some styles of step ins).
Pros:
1. They are way more responsive than the GNUs and feel very secure.
2. Had no issues with snow preventing getting latched in (but no deep powder here).
3. I can get in and out of them quicker than skiiers can get in/out of their bindings. Ohh how the tables have turned.
4. It is so fast I find myself walking around instead of skating in many scenarios and in long lift lines I can just hop out real quick to relax then hop back in right before it's my turn.
Awesome man, thanks for the info. I think I'll try them out next season @@Matthew-.-
Thanks for the solid review and follow up! I couldn’t help but chuckle a bit when you mentioned they’ll be giving a tether strap with these after coming from your other video where you have a friendly jab about how “other step in bindings giving those straps for a reason!” Haha
Haha yeah, it's all to do with legal requirements in the US I think more than anything else!
I just got my supermatics, I find it hard to lock it to the last tooth of the gear on the back. it often stops at the second tooth. I bought it at the end of the season with some discount and now I cannot test it on snow, I can make it lock at the last set of tooth if I really try hard on a yoga mat, I worry that I won't be able to do that on softer snow.
Hmm I'm not sure tbh I get your concern, did you buy online?
@@malcolmmoore turns out I had my toe strap too tight, loosen 2 clicks, everything goes smoothly.
Usual fine clear cool and minty communicating from MM. might demo at xscape next week. I don’t mind the bending but can see the joy. And I’m 72 in March 25:)
nice one... didn't expect a product review from you mate... been watching lots of your technique vids, which are brilliant... And funnily enough im looking for new bindings, i have flows, so more than happy with them, thought about burton stepins but i love my boots too much, so its between getting new flows or these. you have one of the most positive reviews of them, there are a lot of negative ones... you might have made my mind up.,. and yes i'm a bit older, thanks for that !! lol...
Thanks. Great review, I got the Nidecker Team bindings last year so will be looking at getting these as my next set after I've done a few seasons with my current ones. Hopefully they'll come down in price by then!
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I’m exactly what you explained tu be the target market. I’m 51 and I’m not in the best shape. I just found a pair of Supermatics that I ordered online. Rode them for the first time on Sunday. So far, I really like them.
I wear a men’s US size 9 boot. They fit into the medium binding, but barely. I realize this may vary by the boot model. I just wanted to say for people looking at the sizing chart, there’s a little bit of flexibility around those recommendations.
Thanks for the advice ✌
Replying to this super late as well. I have US Size 11 Burton Photons and have the XLs. I'm 99% sure I could've fit them in the Ls and it probably would've been better. No big issues of extra movement, but I did have to use the discs oriented so that I used the better adjustability to push the bindings as far towards the toe edge as possible.
Thanks for addressing these questions! One thing that I don't remember being touched upon in either video is if you can rotationally adjust the high backs. I assume not but again, for the demographics, not a big issue
Ah, you can't rotate them, well spotted!
@@malcolmmoore is that something you usually do with traditional bindings?
@@DjalmaBorges yeah you normally can canter your highbacks to align better with your heel edge, it's mot a game changer though
I did a beginner lesson with someone on the Burton step ons. She kept having to use my binding strap to scrape off the snow packed on the bottom of her boots to get them to clock in. Thought that was ironic. Glad the supermatics don’t seem to have that issue.
Would the release be better if you pulled up instead of push down 😗
Thx for the review.. the size charts have changed, just FYI. L is up to 10.5 and XL from 11 up.
Oh good to know thanks!
Finally some step ins that make me feel I won't forever mourn the death of the Switch system! They look fantastic.
Yeah they're a thumbs up from me
Thx for the informative review. I love to track around the mountain with my skiing partner and these bindings looks so effortless to put on. I can't wait to try them out.
I did just manage to pre-order a set but seems like most places are out of stock already.
looks like these bindings are for me
i am in the "older" category
going to Europe in 2 weeks
hope i can pick them up
Thanks for the review Malcolm! I think yet another target audience for these are people who may even be in good shape but are often riding with skiers and have to endure their bickering about the amount of time we take at the chairlifts 😉. Not sure if this has been asked already, but what about the riders that like to use a more aggressive forward lean angle on the highbacks for carving. Can this be done with Supermatics and will it somehow compromise the ease of step in or step out functions?
Add riding the tow lift with kids to that list. By the time I am clipped in my son is already lining back up again. 🙄
Well, I'm a year late but I have the '24s and I like a bunch of forward lean. The Supermatics have limited adjustment and the max forward lean is like in the middle of the adjustment range on my Union Force Classics. It is enough for me, but only just. I would say the Supermatics are actually easier to get into than normal bindings with the same amount of forward lean. The highback starts from way back when you step in and then you can put your weight into it to get everything into place. In normal bindings you have to wiggle your boot and crank the ankle strap to get your heel into position, especially with pretty stiff boots.
I got these for riding the tiny hills around where I live where the tow lifts and strapping in take a good percentage of time at the hill (usually minimal lift lines).
Hi Malcolm. Thanks for this review. Did you notice however any wearing out of your boots on the heel from slipping in and out of the bindings? I know there is a little wheel, but I tested these bindings with my boots in the store and I did notice that the heel was kind of suffering a bit (the rubber that is) after a while. These were my Burton Boa's size US 10 (UK 9, EUR 43) in the size L bindings. Of course, it's not 'lubricated' by snow and tested in dry conditions, but I want to make sure my boots won't suffer. You have quite some experience with these. Did your boots show any sign of wearing off? Did the rubber suffer somehow? And... would it be smart to maybe pick a size XL for the bindings when ordering in your opinion? I ruined my previous boots with Roxy step-in bindings (tore off the rubber by putting them up and down) so I am extremely careful of what I buy when it comes to bindings. Many thanks for your reply!
Can't wait for the season to begin!!
Fast approaching 50. These will do for stomping around the Portes du Soleil on my weekends. Cheers for being honest about the "great for old folks" line. ;-) haha
Have fun!
Great follow up to the initial in depth ride and review! Pre ordered mine from Outdoor XL in the Netherlands right after your initial review. Been on the Burton Step Ons the last 2 seasons. Love them, super responsive with the sole of your boot locked to the binding. Will be interesting to compare the responsiveness when i get these this season.
Was just notified by Outdoor that binding delivery will be delayed from September till November.😠🤣 Can't wait! Pray for Snow!!!
I think you'll find them quite different to the burton step ons, but I definitely prefer them, November should still be fine for before winter!
@Makani Did you Go back to the burtons or?
Missed out on the '23 batch so just pre-ordered the '24 stock which should come in October. They are £399 by the way. I've also ordered new board and boots (end of season '23 sales) for the first time in over a decade so already counting the days to next season's snow........groan....
Long summer ahead!
I know this is old but I just got a pair of these and wanted to know if they slide in a lot easier when it’s wet from the snow mine slide in okay but the way yours looks like it slides like butter? Also I haven’t worn these on the mountain yet but I’ve noticed my boots are rubbing a bit and the hammock cushion seems like it’s getting tore up some from putting my foot in
You answered my question about the sliding when wet just watched that part lol thank you. Only question now is how durable are the cushions on the footbed and hammock
So in-depth reviews thx Malcolm!!
used them a couple of times, but now i tried to set the spoilers more lateral, dont seems to find a possibility to lateral move the spoilers. they seems part of the mechanical thing and don t allow any lateral move.
o no... I had a preorder on these in my local snowboardshop, but it seems like I have to wait another year for the XL bindings. (size 46 EU)
Glad I pre-ordered these! Great review as always
where did you preorder
@@DrainGang-vy6mg The House
Great binding BUT it damages (wooden) board decks!
I watched your reviews and finally bought an XL for my Jones Hovercraft with a bamboo deck.
Great function, great hold, a little heavier than my old K2 Chinch.
But only after a few days of use I have big dents in the wooden deck from the thin fins under the moveable heel part that cause a lot of pressure on a small area on the deck. I guess after some more days the wood will be really damaged and exposed or split.
I am already in contact with Nidecker for a solution, imo a simple, thin plate under the binding would prevent these damages. Until there's a solution for this problem I wouldn't recommend the Supermatic for boards with a wooden deck, like many of the high-end Jones boards have.
I think these bindings will be revolutionary. What worries me is that there are so many moving parts that wear and tear parts are inevitable. The question is will Nidecker provide these part for replacement or will we have to buy a whole new set of bindings?
I don't see why not. They offer replacement parts for flow bindings and even have a PDF you can download of the part you want to replace
Exactly as Sam said, I actually toured the European distribution centre the other day and they are stocked up with spare parts. North America will be the same 👍
@@malcolmmoore awesome, looks like I might actually have to consider a pair now :)
Be careful, when you ride the chairlift I accidentally pressed the lever with my other foot and the board came off.
First time I was barely getting on the chairlift and the board fell down.
Next time, again, I accidentally pressed the lever but this time I noticed it and was able to put on the binding again.
Overall I am very happy with these Bindings.
Hi Malcolm, thx for pointing me to these two excellent reviews! One more question: Are they easy to step into in deep powder or does it just make more sense to put them on like normal bindings in such scenario? Thx
If it was really deep, probably makes more sense to use them like a normal binding, to be honest if you're just riding powder in a resort unless you're getting stuck, hopefully you won't need to take them on and off in the deep snow!
After these videos on these bindings I was sold. Went over to buy some and sold out and not a bigger size till next year anyway. Going with the WarPig board. I’m 6’3 255lb intermediate rider what bindings should I look at for this season that would be similar feeling to those?
Hi, thanks for this great review . I intend to buy it when they release the XL version. On another note, would you be able to do a video about binding angles and highback forward lean. I am an early intermediate and struggle for turn from heel to toe on steep red slopes . I wonder if adjusting binding angles and changing highback setback will help with the process
So, they don´t work for me. My foot size is 12,5. You said they´ll release the XL on this season. Is that confirmed? Because I´m from Brazil and I really want to buy thoses for my snow trips. Thanks a lot for your videos. They are all helping me a lot.
XL coming next winter, as in the one after this, 23/24
@@malcolmmoore big mistake. There are big foot people on the world too. haahhaha. Thanks for the answer, Malcolm.
As I can see Nidecker really nailed it. An if there is a patent… fab!
Yeah they nailed it 😊
Malcolm, did you ever tried Burton Step Ons? I just got mine and quite happy. I what to know your opinion. - Marry Christmass.
My wife and I are both in our 50s now. We have a love hate relationship with flows, to the point that I have gone back to unions after the top if the range flows ripped the heal off of two pairs of my boots. I think it’s pretty likely that one of us will be buying these at some point.
Hello Malcolm! I have a question, my toes stick out a little too much with these bindings and I can fix it if using the offset disk with the triangle towards the tail or nose. But that creates an offset, will this be an issue? Because in the manual it says you can put the triangle on the disk to the heelcup to create a offset towards the heel, but I found that if I put the offset towards the tail or nose I have 3mm more room to shift my binding towards the heel, creating less toe sticking out.
Would love to hear your opinion on this. Please help me out
Not exactly sure what you mean, but if you've picked the right size bindings for your boot size, then you should be able to centre you binding on the board without any problems. If you're doing that but just getting overhang then it might just be that your board is too narrow for your foot.
The sizing should be alright, I've checked the size charts. I have boot size US 10 EU 43, Nidecker Supermatic's size L and Bataleon Goliath 159. The Supermatic's come with the offset disk, the offset disk has a triangle, you can point the triangle towards the heelside to create an offset of 3mm towards the heelside, or you can point the triangle towards the tail to create an offset towards the tail of 3mm, while doing so you can also move your bindings up and down to move the further towards the toe or heelside.
So by doing that I can move my binding a little more towards my heelside, which creates less overhang on the toes. I was wondering if there is a downside to this?
What up Malcolm 🤟🏾 what’s the name of the board? I want me a volume shifted sled also. Thanks for all hard work and love for the sport 🔥
Was there any issues bending down to release them, with the lever being on the i side of your feet?
If I don't want to do park, outside of small jumps, what can I do? (Older) cruise, ground tricks, carver, tree?
Hi Malcolm, your original review and this follow up convinced me this is the bindings I need. They arrived about 2 weeks ago and I can't wait to try them in Les Arcs in Jan. Thanks to more of your vids I want an Insta 360 x3 now too! Keep making your awesome vids.
Haha, awesome, hope you like them!
Where did you find them? Everywhere online shows them out of stock 😢
Just bought these Bad Boys! Size XL White :) gonna pair them with K2 Excavator 162 and hope they gonna rock ! 🔥🔥🏂❄️
Epic!
I really appreciate how comprehensive your reviews of the Supermatic have been, thanks! Do you know if there'll be any changes to the 22/23 model, or is staying the same?
It's staying the same, just some added colourways and sizes 👍 - sorry, the added sizes and colours will be the following winter.
I'm 22 a pretty good rider and i absolutetly WANT these.
I often ride with skiers and i am tired of them having to wait for me. I wanna hop of the chair lift, simultaneously step into the binding and don't have to sit down or strap in my foot.
Yeah exactly 💯
Thanks a lot for the detailed original review, and this awesome follow-up!
Could you please provide an indication for your board measurements?
Waist width and width underfoot?
Will really help me with some proportions since I intend to pre-order a set of these :)
Hey Malcolm, well done! How would you compare these to responsiveness to other brand/models? That might be a bit helpful. Say a burton Genesis or Cartel? Clearly Union Atlas more stiff and responsive, but can you draw any comparisons?
Would be interested in this as well.
Burton Cartels, I go over this in the original review too 👍
Thank you for your advice, im hard core union, but im getting older and now thinking if canterd strata instead if contact pro, to relieve knew pressyre, still able to strap up standing up, but would the convenience of step ins as well as strapping up on the chair lift 🤣🤣🤣
Hey Chris, good to hear from you, hope you're well 👍
I love the idea, and really would like them….I’m going to be 50 when I am in France next spring, so maybe fit into the older demographic, but I ride a fairly stiff (but old) Atomic alibi renu with Union force bindings and love the responsiveness, so maybe not for me?
They'll be a bit more forgiving for sure, it just depends on how bad you want the step in functionality, that's the trade off!
Ciao Malcolm!
Is there the option to adjust the Supermatic forward and backward with the 2x4 bushings?
To center the bindings and boots in snowboard axle.
Sorry for my english, thanks Malcolm Bye!❄️🏔️🏂:)
Yeah, provided you get the right binding size for your foot you will have enough adjustment forwards and back
I wish Nidecker added some extra rubber or foam underneath bindings to a) add more shock absorption and b) protect the surface of the board thanks to that.
Awesome, thank you for this!
Just looked them up on a few Japanese online shopping sites and they seem to be retailing at 53,900¥ (which at today's conversions is pretty much the same as the USD/CAD/EUR prices you quoted).
I was going to ask if the footbeds are canted but I took a good look at some of the product shots and they do seem to have some cant in there. Yay.
Finally, I really wanna try these out in knee-deep pow. I have one regular "first gondola" situation where I ride and one-upping my Step-in buddies would be hilarious. 😂
Haha awesome, and yes, a small amount of canting on the footbeds 👍
2.5 degrees of canting, to be specific.
Thanks Eric!
I already have a pair of Burton step-on boots, will these work with them? Or will the heel and toe cleats on the boots get in the way?
Step on boots were really just designed to work with step in bindings, not just because of the clips, but because of how they have been designed to work without straps over the top. In theory you probably could get a pair in these bindings, like how you could probably get them in a set of normal bindings, but that's not what they were designed for.
@@malcolmmoore Thank you for the reply! Yeah I’m just trying to save money and use the boots I already have. Just wanted to see if the cleats on the Burtons would mess with or damage the straps on the Supermatics.
If you are in between a M and L, what do you suggest?
Also what board are you riding?
Thanks Malcolm! Good review
Thanks ☺️☺️
Hi Malcolm, love your content. I was just wondering I wear a Burton Photon Boa in 8.5, I pre ordered these bindings in large. According to the size chart should fit my boots, but will there be to much play in them?
The bindings can be adjusted like regular ones to fit your boots, so if you're within what the size chart recommended I'm sure it'll work!
Your parting comment was that you felt these were the best of the bunch... Assuming you're grouping the Burton step ins in that...? What is that these have over the Burton set up (other than the obvious 'you can use your own boot'...?) Thx :-) great review btw...
For me these just feel like a normal boot and binding setup when you're in them. The burtons have a very different feel to them. Some people actually really like them, and they are very responsive, but you are quite aware of the contact points on the side of the boots where you are anchored in. I find the boots are also just way too stiff, again some people like that though. I do think these are also slightly easier to use, but again the burtons do work well and you would just get used to either. Basically for me, these are a normal binding with step in functionality, whereas the burtons definitely have a different feel, flex, and ride to them
@@malcolmmoore thx dude… appreciate the quick reply… 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Hi! Is it okay to put these bindings on softer boards (flex 4 or lower)? I ordered one for my stiffer board so my skiing friends won't need to wait for me 😄. But for simple convenience I would like them to have also on my softer board 🙂.
Yeah absolutely, stiffer bindings on soft boards is not a problem, softer bindings on stiffer boards doesn't work so well!
Love your videos!
I noticed on one of your more recent releases that you were (still) using the Supermatics. Are they your daily go to Binding? or do you just use them for recording? (allowing super quick in/out)
I actually use them most of the time, recently I've been using an old board because there's alot of rocks around so rather than swapping my supermatics I've put some old bindings on that board too, but most the time I'm on the supermatics yeah. They've actually just sent me the new carbon ones which I'm quite surprised at how much I like them, I thought they would be too stiff..I'll have a comparison video of them out in about a weekm
How do these compare to a Flox NX2 ?
And do you (still) use them as "daily drivers" ?
What a gamechanger
Yeah they are!!
hi there, I am experiencing some issues .. if I make em just few clicks. it is all ok to step in/out, but then my back foot when carving little harder is moving slightly in the bindings(toe side carve- heel lifting-the whole boot)- so it is pretty annoying.. but then if I crank em hard. then I have real trouble getting in/out- mainly IN. any experience/advice ? boot 41/supermatics M size. Thank U all
Would you recommend these over burton step ons
Thanks for the review. Are u still using usual bindings in some cases or u stick only to nideckers?
I am in process of buying new set. An can't choose between usual bindings, for example Union Atlas or Burton cartels, and nideckers.
I was able to grab 3 pairs of these (1 for a buddy, 2 for 2 new boards I ordered).
I'd say the thing that excites me about these, is that after a full day of sitting down and getting up to strap in, where room is limited, and on mountains where the runs aren't long (so you're on the lift a lot), this can make a big difference. I'm in great shape, fit, etc. But after several hours of sitting down on the ground, then pushing up to get going, it starts to wear on me. I really hope these make a difference.
I'd also be curious if you can strap back in while getting on the lift to make exiting a no stop event.
And, one of the boards I picked up this year was an Amplid Pentaquark. I'll be curious as to how well this pairs w/ it as that board will need a lot of control. If I don't find I have enough control w/ my first set of these bindings, I can't imagine it'll be difficult to sell the 2nd pair.
Let me know if you decide to sell that second pair! I'd definitely be in the market.
I’d be interested to know how you think they are marketing these compared to the flow bindings which start about $100 less. Are they higher level components overall or are they just focusing on the entry mechanism as being more efficient. I would guess some parts actually may be the same between different flow models and these.
They're definitely focusing on the entry method being easier, which it is. Despite the similar look they have a very different feel to flows. They basically don't really market the flows because they have a dedicated fan base already. Riding wise you'll find more breadth within the flow range, with more responsive and lightweight bindings on offer, but if you're looking for ease of entry then the supermatics are for sure better.
Ahah thanks sending me there and I have another question 🙋
Some guys testing it say it s quite hard under the heel because there s no Eva foam like on other bindings and it makes quite unconfortable after long day riding... Your thoughts?
There's some padding under the heel. It's not thick, but you won't be bothered unless you ride barefoot.
Finally a binding which will replace decently my old Vans/Switch best ever Step In systems. Hopefully I will find them in Quebec, Canada. Of subject, what is the board in the video? Seems to be a extra wide...
It's the amplid dada, you can see it here:
amplid.com/?sPartner=MalcolmM
And yeah it's very wide, great for big feet! Very similar to the Ride Warpig. I'm moving onto the Nidecker Escape 162XW this winter though!
Great review! I wear a UK 10 boot, do you think I'd be better with the XL's?
Hmmmm, I would just message nidecker, you're right on the limit of either.
Hey Malcom! I've just done a week with these bindings and noticed that with my big feet the toe straps tended to slip/ride up onto the top of my boots, rather than pull backwards and down towards the heal. Is that something you noticed? It seems like the tow straps can't be angled down enough towards the toe edge of the board, again, i'm on the upper size limit for these bindings with the XL's not being available yet?
Yeah I got that a little bit too being at the upper end of the size limit as well, tweaking with the other strap length that you lock in, and the bit that connects the ankle and toe strap, seemed to fix it though. I have since tried the upcoming XLs and they're alot better at fitting around a larger boot.
Hi Malcolm
Another great video. Thank you so much.
I could not find on the web a reseller in France or in Europ to order for a pair of these beauties .
Any help ? I live in Grenoble not far from l'AdH. Perhaps see you there for Eurocarving this season. Cheers.
I think the pre-sale bindings sold out, but they should be back in stock by the start of October! And yes, hit me up if you're ever riding adh!