@@malcolmmooreSkiing is not faster if you know to ride your snowboard on the edge straight! Thats right what I said, to ride your snowboard on the edge, but in straight line. I have a friend who was an exceptional skier, he even got to speeds like 127 km/h. He has race skies and never ever was he faster than my old snowboard. I was going 70km/h max, because my board was starting to vibrate horrible at higher speeds, but within that speed, I was faster indeed. If you want I can tell you how to go straight on your edge 😁
It would be better if he did not add. What it shows is complete nonsense. GoPro has no idea about such things as DEM maps, it calculates the speed on the basis of the height calculated from the GPS position, and how accurate this height is, I suggest you watch a few such videos with similar speed/altitude meters, where driving on the flat suddenly loses 5m :)
@@mrt2u905 That's not what they're talking about. On snowboard flats can be really scary because it's very hard to not catch the wrong edge if you lose speed or aren't on a slope.
I agree, he's quite good in estimating wich way to go when a skier is in front of him. I do the same, just going a good speed but don't create unnecessary dangerous situations. Good run my man!
I snowboarded for 10 years, then went back to skiing. This is a perfect example of why. Going fast downhill, is more suited to skis, as you have double the feel and double the edge control to regulate speed and direction. Also, you have the added advantage of not getting held back on flat areas, or just slowly navigating around crowds, getting on/off lifts etc Boards are definitely more fun, when conditions are good, just cruising around and looking for features to pop off, but theres a reason skis have been around for centuries, and have been used as the natural vehicle of the mountains by outdoors people and even soldiers. Will always love my board, but for most applications, in most conditions, skis just work better!
Same, I was doing turn-about for a few years on both - Ski one session, Snowboard the next. Then I cracked a rib while boarding after crashing off a slide-box in a twisted landing. After that I solely switched to skis.
Not to mention that your feet aren't strapped together and you are pointing the way you are going! But I don't know, when I see a boarder in deep powder I can kind of understand why they do it.
Looks super fun! Could you try doing another video like this one in the future but also have a POV from the other person if possible? Maybe then you could stack the videos when the chase gets intense. Just an idea!
I find it impressive when snowboarders are able to rip down a hard icy hill at speed. Skiers might not think it so difficult, but they have at least twice the edge length as we do. We also don't have a second edge to fall back on when one slips out.
Watching this video was both the most exciting and the most relaxing thing that happened to me all day! Finally helped me get the edge off. It's like ASMR and playing a videogame all at the same time! I truly believe that if you chose a mountain that wasn't half flat, you would have won that!
And staying out all night in the bars walking home at midnight or later which happens at least once per holiday usually when chalet staff have their night off
Snowboarding is better in the park, in backcountry and in free ride. Almost all technologies that make ski enjoyable were developped by snowboarders (crved edges, camber, rocker, multilayer construction).
Gotta love how hes making 60-70kmh look like a casual cruise,meanwhile I went somewhere in between that for the first tkme this season and felt like Id break something if i made the tiniest mistake🤣
Most runs I average between 55-70 kph on a board, and if I am racing friends down a steep I've clocked up to 96 kph. I've wiped a number of times in the 55-70 kph range and the the most damage I took was bad snow rash as I was in a T-shirt.
@@KaliAndy2 Agreed 60-70 kph isn't too difficult or out of the norm for anyone decent, 60-70 MILES per hour on the other hand can be a bit intense. Never hit 70 mph but I've been up to 60 mph.
Considering the inherent speed advantage skis have, the fact that shes a professional, and the awful icy sounding snow which boards are notoriously bad for... You actually did pretty damn well. Would be interesting to see the same race with a much less crowded slope and a layer of fresh dry powder, I think you might have had a chance
@@janjanssen9629 Wow I didnt realize that. I mostly ride northern California and Oregon resorts. This is what Id consider crowded at anything other than the very bottom of the mountain / loading areas.
@@r00kiet80 Some sections where definitely wide open but I see a lot more than 5 people, thats crowded compared to places I m used to. More importantly the snow sounds like an icy crusty mess, thats the worst possible thing on a board
@@ST19859 obviously over the course of 9minutes there were more then 5 people but it was the opposite of crowded atleast to what i am used to here in switzerland. Even runs where you have to walk up are more crowded then this.
Speeding on a snowboard is quite scary, especially on messed up and bumpy pistes, and honestly i don't like it very much, especially as a beginner, always on the verge of catching an edge :p I find myself having much more fun on wide green or blue slopes than on any red (or black, but i haven't ridden any yet. I rode my very first red the last day of last season). But that's kind of a pain in the ass when all your friends ski. You just get left behind, they have to wait for you at the end of every run. So you try to keep up and end up falling and hurting yourself X) Anyway, enough rambling from me. As always it's a pleasure to see you ride :) And Viv looked quite fast indeed!
just be a little patient, once you start relaxing a little on your board, stability will come naturally... once you start to fatigue your body tells you to stand up straigter, cause that costs less energy (i.e. stand squatted vs straight for some minutes) ... so if you have to concentrate for a long cattrack or simillar later in the day, take a short rest before entering. And then just kill it in your baggy pants, hiphop kind of attitude ;)
I prefer more challenging runs than bombing hills anyway. Especially on the East coast, I have to take my time down the mountain or it'll be over in under 1 minute
@@fireblade1986 Yeah, i'm much more smooth and precise when i'm not focused on what i should do but rather let my mind "flow" and my body do things instinctively. As you said, cattracks are where it really shows. There was a long cattrack at the resort i was lastime, bordered by a nice rocky ravine. For half of the piste, everything was perfect, i was feeling good and didn't think about what i was doing, just being natural. Then at some point i tried to carve just a turn and began to become more "body conscious". And from there the rest of the run became not so enjoyable lmao. All of that to say that i find a flowing state of mind very important. Almost more important than any other thing.
On blue slopes I'm much faster than skiers because I don't slow down much and can go long on one edge, but when it comes to black or black-red slopes it becomes to scarry to control speed that I have to change edge very often while skiers just run like bullets nearby
@@ChangLRC sometimes you still have to ski down a blue or green to reach a red or black. I just feel slower on snowboard because I need to change edge after getting tired, not because I need to make a turn to slow down.
When on a flat slope you never engage the edge. It slows you down. You glide so as to have as little friction as possible. Somehow this video and all the comments just scream: jeeeeeeeeerryyyyyy
Worked great on about 6"-8" of average snow starts to struggle a bit past 8". ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxoHYZbq5g9fkcAtinlTqstNlje-UQkCHN Very light weight and the chute spin control works well. For the low price you get a ton of value. My only complaint is managing the cord as it does take a fair bit of effort to watch and pull the cord out of the way. I found myself having to whip the cord out of the way a lot when I needed to make one way passes to mange the blow direction. It's less of an issue when you can work both directions. A battery powered version would be a lot easier to handle but that is also double the price and requires battery care. I chose the corded version so I didn't have to worry about batteries but I do now see how much work the cord is. I let my neighbor borrow it and it outperformed his smaller gas blower, he was totally sold. Very pleased with the power and operations.My only suggestion is to spend a bit more on a cordless version if you have budget for it. The cord is a bit more of a headache than I thought it would be. Very pleased with the Snow Joe brand and quality.
That looked like a fantastic trail to go down, nothing like a long mellow run, though you were zooming hard in most of it. Didn't seem like it was that fast but 50 plus most of the time, seems crazy. Good job.👍
I'm a snowborder my self ( not a very good one) and I think we have to give it to ski. Ski is more efficient but this doesn't mean we are giving up on snowboard.
Are you prosperous? Try a hard shell rig or 3-strap stiff boot soft bindings. Get a long stiff almountain & a BIG carving directional. BIG. 160+ for light riders. 170 for heavy. That'll help. 8) Snowboards are largely sold like mush all wheel drive mini SUVs. Most people would be better off with a non-mushy sedan (all mountain, pretty stiff, a little longer than they can handle when they buy it, stiffer boots) unless park/pipe is their jam. Buying my first big expert all-mountain board upped my game a LOT. It took me from about how this guy rides into handle anything, ride anywhere fast territory. Elegant on anything but the nasty stuff. Not as good as this girl skis though. She's a beast.
Glad to see you two and the other folks out there each made it down the hill in one unmashed piece. The rocks alongside the runs could easily cause death if you hit them with your head at 30 or 40 kmh in a slide, helmet or not. A couple of the questions I like to ask hotshots who go straight down the fall line without turning is, "What's more fun, snowboarding for 1 day or 2 days?", "What's more fun, snowboarding for 1 hour or 2 hours?", and "What's more fun, snowboarding for 5 minutes or 10 minutes?" I think the fun of snowboarding arises from acceleration more than speed, whether the acceleration is lateral or vertical in direction. How can you accelerate all the way down the hill? Turn continuously. That's centripetal acceleration, assuming you are taking a curving path and not just skidding on a board turned across the direction of travel.
When you get pretty good it becomes irrelevant. You traverse 1.5x or more of the terrain at the same speed because you ain't speed checking except by traversing the fall line or even carving back up hill a bit, then bringing it around. Good snowboarding (& skiing now that they have the cool new skis) involves lookin up the hill a lot just like powder riding always has. You use SO much of the terrain it's necessary to check uphill for people who are even faster/more badass than you.
That’s cool, I felt it, and I just finished 9 laps at Hood on my Dancehaul 157! Not into speed personally at 66 but I love the way the Dancehaul rides pow or groom. Rhythm, flow, style, power, grace.....😎
Just remember any crash at that type of speed can have life changing effects. I crashed last March at 65 kph and broke my neck (and too many other injuries to list), so be careful on the slopes. And yes, I'm back on the hill this year, got 11 days in now.
Viv is a WAY better skier than this dude is a rider. See how she handled that traffic? Also dude is on a middling speed rig. No third strap or hard boots, probably pretty mushy soft boots. WAY too short a board. Bad wax I bet. viv would have beat me in my prime on an all-mountain board. On my 170 with a real still setup? Not by much, put it that way. I would have BURNED through those flats for starters. When your pass is at a ridgeline cruise to powder area where there's powder to be had for days, you learn to WAX that mofo. also the value of a long allmountain board. It's not just for powder float. It's also for getting around on the flats & through the chop.
I used to ride an F2 with hard boots and spent my holidays in a group of skiers. We were always racing each other. The snow sounded hard in places, major thigh burn. 80+kmh well done.
Much better comparison. I had old burton 3-straps & a 170 unidirectional carver & stiff boots. Suspect I would be much closer to the finish line (but not win 'cause this chick is awesome.) Not what I rode all the time, but much closer to what most skiers ski. Dude lost like 40 seconds just to garbage wax & too small a board. More to bad traffic mitigation.
This shows exactly the pain snowboarders have trying to figure out where the heck skiers are going to go when you pass them.. it's so unpredictable.. ugh. This really shows perfectly the feeling.
@@bg3841 Yes you can, it is easier to snowplough on a snowboard than on skis. The worst is snowboarders standing just below the top of a hill asking to be hit in the back of the head.
@@bg3841 "snowploughing" on a board just means yanking or turning the board perpendicular to the fall line. not hard. Early skill. You're right about skiers & the whole duck & dodge thing. Fortunately good skiers ride a lot more like snowboarders now. They carve more of the slope & make bigger turns. Lot more fun for them too I'm sure.
Well done. I’m a pretty new snowboarder and speed is the scariest thing to me on my snowboard, especially on bumpy terrain. Not sure I will ever get the courage/ability to send it like you did here!
Ditch your mushy park boots for stiffer ones. Ditch your mushy bi-directional for a stiffer all-mountain. In general they oversell park gear. Skis are the opposite (or were.) Buy a board that's a bit too much for you & master it. You'll be WAY more confident. You want to be on edge flat spot on edge. Speed check by going horizontal instead of skidding. Watch the pipe olympians. They pull that off with twerky pipe stuff. You & I need better gear to do so. Once you have it you can ride anywhere with confidence. Plus you'll be ready for deep powder. I was a fat fffck & better than our host here. A lot of that came from gear I suspect. Days on mtn prob. Also Europe kinda sucks for riding (though I bet there are INSANE locals spots.) Colorado & Utah & Tahoe not so much.
Would be good to see this challenge on a nice snow day. Going fast on crunchy ice is sketchy. Need a fresh dusting so you can feel comfortable going straight down with minimal turning.
I was snowboarder and ski schooler @ JHMR - Jackson Wy. I skied and boarded a few time with Tommy Moe. He was so fast in the hard and fast conditions. A snowboarded, at any level, would not compute. Still. Very Good job! Fun to watch. Slow old guy here. Cheers
Yes, but who wants to ski hard & fast conditions? I spent 10's of thousands of dollars to find powder, and every penny was worth it, including the ones that only found friendly groomers. I would also add that to make a good comparison you'd need a very good snowboarder on very specific gear. I don't mean the awesome guy from the Valdez vids either. I mean a racer on a big one ski rig. Tommy would prob still win, but I guarantee you never watched that comparison.
Tommy Moe was as good as it gets at the JHMR. It was 20 years ago when i did turns with Moe. I was on my board. Moe was on skis. It was hard and fast that day.
good fun... thanks ... guess we just need to troll you a little for your boardchoice ;) ... effective edgelength and big sidecut radius are not quite what volumeshifted boards are known for ;) ... really good fun they are anyway... my Superpig is like a Dragonfly... just instant turn even on blank glacierice if you dare.
I agree. Didn't know Alpe d'Huez was that pretty. But I've seen some other runs there on youtube that also look great. Not that skiing around Serfaus is bad, but this is really pretty.
So I'm using a suunto GPS watch that also has a barometric altimeter. I then take that data and plug it into the free Garmin Virb Edit software to make the speedos 👌
At the beginning I thought "hm, I recognise this route". Checked the description and I have in fact done this route many times before! Good to see a familiar slope :D
Bro. If you are gonna drop that money, do it in Chile instead. Or rent a car & chase storms in the US/BC/Alberta. Trust me on this. From what I hear you really gotta know your shit to go off piste there. On piste = the garbage you just watched. Shit looked like East Coast only 3x longer. USA/CA off-piste for snowboarders (aka powder for days when you hit storms:) Wolf Creek, Mount Bachelor, Fernie, Lizard Head, Mammoth, Heavenly (WAY underrated, ginormous & full of tourist losers who can't ski powder,) [that one up high in tahoe away from the others... kirkland? kirkwoods?], Grand Targhee, 4 corners spots in El Nino, Schweitzer, all the Utah areas, Keystone I hear, couple in Montana I hear, that one w the aspens in NW CO I hear. You have just been given hard won expert advice. Reread it. I know how to find powder pretty well. In general NEVER "book a trip." Watch the weather & look for bargains online instead. Or rent a subaru & sleep in it! Loves for showers, ski area lots for free camping (or BLM nat forest,) cook on the tailgate. MAXIMUM FUN MINIMUM MONEY. USA "off piste" is not safe per se, but in general you can go almost anywhere & duck in the trees or walk for powder following the rest & not die. I can testify. My near deaths were hoppng a tree well or getting literally avalanched on a 4' day at Snowshoe. Euro? Oh what a fun strech of half-chop powd.....oooooooooh crevasse mon dieu You ALREADY LIVIE IN SKI PARADISE. Chile is groovy though.
She's WAY better than he is. She's also on a better rig for the race & the conditions. With better wax. Merely equalizing the rigs (+ learning the new ones) puts him on an unequal but much more competitive footing if only because he'd BLOW through those flats.
That's funny Malcom! A week ago I was in Saalbach in Austria with 13 skiers and just me as snowboarder and... Your result on race has been exactly the same to me when I tried to beat my skiers group! At the beginning I took the advantage but finally... No way man! And I was riding my dancehaul as well jajaja!
what's a dancehaul? Is it a stiff long all-mountain board or a carver? did you have non-mushy boots on firm bindings? Expecting to beat skiers on even semi-park gear is silly. Expecting to hang on at least stiff all-mountain gear is reasonable, because that's what most skiers are riding. My ski buddies didn't do a lot of waiting for me. ZERO if I stopped carving up 1.5 as much of the terrain as them. They did get better at carving later though when the good new skis came out.
I got on the slopes as a boarder first - early 90s when the kit was fairly shite but by the time I first skied - maybe 15 years later I was an "expert" boarder. And yet after only a few days on skis with my instructor friend I already knew that skiing was faster. It just is. It's not better or worse - but it's faster and more importantly it's EASIER and safer to be faster. Both sports rock - which is why when we holiday this winter in Tignes I'll be skiing with the kids and wife in the morning and boarding every afternoon.
lol you were never going to beat a skier, but considering you effectively cover twice the distance on a board due to the turns, you did really well on what look like really crappy snow. Gonna have to watch it again now for that bl**dy rubber duck lol
I guess he said it because Snwoboarders have to go from side to side doing Ss while skiers can just go in straight line, if you measure the real distance, is like skiers are taking shortcuts compared with snowboaders.
Ok long ass run on garbage corn. Good on both of you for not stopping extra great on the boarder. Been riding skis for 30 years and I would have stoppedat 5-6 in on the crappy marbles…
Totally. She smokes the FFFFF out of this guy. Great skier. Medium speed checking. Our boy here? Medium. Handled traffic beautifully. Our boy here? clumsy'ish. Also she's on STIFF boots & I presume fast skis. I presume she does her own wax day to day. This guy is on an all purpose rig that's too short for speed. Too short period. Bad wax. Put him in my stiff boots (or hard shells) & 3 strap bindings on my 170 carving rig w/ new wax? He loses like 1/4 of the speed he lost in the flats. It's a race.
Ah, man! The Dancehaul in black and gold! 💯😱Looks sick retro, like an -83 Datsun! I was so keen on buying that one last season. When finally decided they where all gone…😢 Went for the Nitro Woodcarver this season instead.🚀
115? i find that hard to believe.. the world record is 131 and I doubt your that close. Not trying to talk shit but going even 80 is insane. I think your spedometer is off
Would have liked to see this with a proper 1,9m Raceboard and Hardboots - Speeds would have been way higher on this kind of descent with nearly no need to drift at all..
@@cowscantfilm ??? totally snowboarding. Skis have evolved to give you a better selection just like you have with snowboards. I typically rode a 3-strap locked to L binding w stiff boots. Long stiff all-mountain. Other than park/pipe extremes I sure as FFFK looked like a snowboarder. A damn good one in fact despite being no great athlete. You drive your riced out suzuki sidekick. I'll drive my M3. Who the fuck you think wins? Which one of us ain't a car racer? (I wouldn't have beat this girl. She's a damn fine skier. Wouldn't be resting when I caught her at the bottom though. Only have missed a spot or two in the lift line.)
@@theminister1154 Good for you big lad. But this is a different sport, call it snowboarding if you like, but it's a different discipline, one which Malcolm clearly does not participate in.
Let's be honest here, she is very very good. Majority of good skiers would struggle to keep up with you. I am talking guys who skied all their lives and get plenty of days on the mountain every year.
I've been skiing all my life and I already knew how this is gonna end before even watching it ^^ not once did a snowboarder overtake me if I didnt want him to
nah, i gotta troll you for not sending it at least 80km/h on a directional snowboard lol. you did it once and your control was beautiful, have more confidence in your riding. good video tho, looked so fun, love long runs.
Still amazed how fast you can go. I seem to get pretty unstable at moderate speeds. I'm wondering if my snowboard is too small and having a bigger one will help with stability. I'm 6' 210lbs on a 159. 10.5 feet but regular width board. I've been thinking of getting something 163 or longer and wide. Will that make a difference?
@@je5406 thanks! I've looked at that it's a bit out of my price range but I've been looking at similar boards. 162-165, wide. I don't do park so all-mountain that can handle the occasional pow.
Your board length and board type makes a huge difference. Im 5'10" and 220lbs and have 3 boards in my rideable quiver. My libtech skunk ape is a 165w and is what I use for my high speed runs as it is long and stable. I can reach speeds up to 50mph fairly comfortably. I use a couple smaller wide boards in 158w like my Marhar Lumberjack or Libtech Box knife for days where I'm looking for more side hits or tree runs. Smaller boards give me better maneuverability while my longer board gives better stabilization for speed. Most of my boards, I bought used off classifieds for cheaper and they work great.
a longer wide board will certainly help with better control at high speeds. You will sacrifice some turning quickness though. I am 6'2 230 ride a 162 wide. My first board was 169 then I went as low as 155. Short boards are nice if going into tight places and have to make quick turns. But they will start to chatter at high speeds. A 163W camber board would probably be ideal for you. Biggest thing is making sure you are riding your edges and not sliding back of your board to turn and slow down.
@@KaliAndy2 I tried a blue run with a steep entrance going into a flat long straight. I went flat base and still didn't top 40km/h according to my Sportly app. The only time I remember going over 40 was when I demoed a 162w board. Maybe I'm too heavy for my board so even the base drags and slows me down. It's hard to get the right size and availability of the boards I want locally.
I used to work on top of Andesite Mtn at Big Sky in MT. We would race down after work to try to get a couple lift rides in. Ambush is a pretty steep blue run. I hit 62.1 there once. I was on the ragged edge. Washed out on that run more than once. I have the gps to prove it. On a mid-2000’s 158 Ride Timeless. A couple skiers that worked with me would leave me standing still.
Malcolm, great to watch you push it to the limit, I have a question and maybe you could do a video on it, I’m a intermediate Snowboarder and my legs get so tired after say ten mins of boarding, I fell ok but would be good if you had any advice, it always seems on my leading foot/leg?. Cheers 🥂
@@byunism I can ride switch, that’s not a problem at all, I have my bindings set up 15/15 duck to allow me to ride switch, but still my legs burn out, maybe it’s because I’m 53 and still living the dream, never want to give it up though.
@@itskeirashorts4520 the age probably has a lot to do with it. I'm 41 and just got back home from a weekend trip. The drive back killed my lower back and now I'm having a hard time walking. Getting old sucks but let's keep riding until our legs fall off!
Snowboards have advantages but on such an easy terrain and ride it is more fun on skis.and of course skis are faster. But then again it is not a a competition. On skis: For all that know what I am talking about: Always dance on the best snow left and right. You got around about a meter .... but that is swish swish and dance dance ... have fun 😉I personally love slush snow. Stay low and let it take you!!!
Great to watch, but why no helmet? Especially when you say it was bumpy and icy, and you are racing. Skier had better sense this time ;-) I think you lost because of the flat section and way too many turns at the start.
@@SnowwithEmilyJo Ah yes - sorry Malcolm, I take it back! :-) Thanks, Emily Jo! It is clear from the start of the video...it was just so smooth at the end when he took it off...
I skied once on a school trip but since then never again. Recently got interested in it again and was wondering why I was so cautious about skiing before. This video has reminded me why: because of all the sheeple on the pists.... This is so fricking stressful, like why don't people just generally ski e.g. on the right side of the track and let fast people move on the left?
I love the skiers making insanely wide weaving patterns in front of you. Never understood why they have to take up the entire run width like that. Then you’ve got to try and time getting by them and half the time their pattern changes last second.
I have only ever snowboarded in niseko Japan. That looks like packed end of season (late April early may) snow in niseko. Is it like that all season long?
I abandoned skiing and moved onto the board at 55. Not because of speed, just the opposite! Because I knew I am too adventurous for my low reaction speed -- and my vertigo. On the board, every small slope feels 3× higher, hence more fun.
You know? Because of other people probably she couldn't go as fast as she would. Given the snow conditions (kinda hard and messy one, judging by the sound your board makes), i'd have used harderd board with hard boots (giant slalom ones) and kept edging. More speed at the cost of more risk :P But kinda good video, I like te way you respect other people on the track!!!
Was the speedometer correct? Parts where he was going alMost 80 just didn't seem like that. And when he wipes 20 off with just a slight lean. Its just seems unreal
Who can be first to spot the rubber duck? 🦆
Shit I never remember to look!
Gotta keep eye out
Not sure, but is it on 05:41 at the left pole? Just a glimpse, nice run btw!
@@stefancosovic5965 nope not there!
That was tough! On the orange padding at 4:24!
At minute 2:23 on the left side.
I love how this started right away, no distracting build up to the race, just the exact content that I clicked for, awesome stuff!
That's cause it wasn't made by American "Influencers".......
I kept waiting for the inevitable break in the video where they'd give a whole preamble to why and where and how they did it. Glad it never came.
I still don't get the whole point of the race. Why even racing if you need a head start in the first place. We all know who is faster!
Agreed
@@nickmaclachlan5178 hey buddy what the hell does that mean
I love how within 10secs into the video he says, “I think we all know skiing is faster than snowboarding”. Perfect, saved 9mins.
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@@malcolmmoore you played yourself 😂
Still fun to watch
Skiing is obviously faster, you don't even need to watch the first ten seconds to know that.
@@malcolmmooreSkiing is not faster if you know to ride your snowboard on the edge straight! Thats right what I said, to ride your snowboard on the edge, but in straight line.
I have a friend who was an exceptional skier, he even got to speeds like 127 km/h. He has race skies and never ever was he faster than my old snowboard. I was going 70km/h max, because my board was starting to vibrate horrible at higher speeds, but within that speed, I was faster indeed.
If you want I can tell you how to go straight on your edge 😁
I really enjoy that Malcolm takes the time to add a speedometer and a map.
Does it automatically more or less if you got GPS activated on your gopro. It is just 2 Buttons extra to push which takes 2 seconds.
@@xenoz666 What adds the graphics though, is there some gopro software that does this?
@@xenoz666 Oh right I never use the gopro app I'll check it out.
@@concernedcitizen3254 Enjoy :)
It would be better if he did not add. What it shows is complete nonsense. GoPro has no idea about such things as DEM maps, it calculates the speed on the basis of the height calculated from the GPS position, and how accurate this height is, I suggest you watch a few such videos with similar speed/altitude meters, where driving on the flat suddenly loses 5m :)
You captured the anxiety every snowboarder has on a flat really nicely here.
Agree, as a skier I hate that sinking feeling when you get on the flats without speed, and it felt way worse as a snowboarder.
@@mrt2u905 That's not what they're talking about. On snowboard flats can be really scary because it's very hard to not catch the wrong edge if you lose speed or aren't on a slope.
@@blyg9992 just learn to ride flat mate, if u get it out u can also do it on steeper slopes
@@m.engelbrecht4456 Yeah of course I know how im just saying its hard especially for new snowboarders
@@blyg9992 I wouln't say it's hard (except for new snowboarders), but it really takes a toll on your legs.
I love how this video was more about having fun and making a fun excuse to make a video vs actual "science" of who's faster.
I like your style and positioning on the pistes: fast, but definitely defensive positioning and distance to other slower users. Well done!
Agreed, fast but safe. Giving us a good name.
yes he could go faster in my opinion
I agree, he's quite good in estimating wich way to go when a skier is in front of him. I do the same, just going a good speed but don't create unnecessary dangerous situations. Good run my man!
So hard to gauge when and where to pass some people, especially when they are carving the entire trail as if they are the only ones on the trail.
I snowboarded for 10 years, then went back to skiing.
This is a perfect example of why.
Going fast downhill, is more suited to skis, as you have double the feel and double the edge control to regulate speed and direction.
Also, you have the added advantage of not getting held back on flat areas, or just slowly navigating around crowds, getting on/off lifts etc
Boards are definitely more fun, when conditions are good, just cruising around and looking for features to pop off, but theres a reason skis have been around for centuries, and have been used as the natural vehicle of the mountains by outdoors people and even soldiers.
Will always love my board, but for most applications, in most conditions, skis just work better!
facts!!
I consistently blow by skiers on the flats. Having the right board, with a good tune up on it goes a long way.
Skiing is a means of travel
Snowboarding is for fun.
Same, I was doing turn-about for a few years on both - Ski one session, Snowboard the next. Then I cracked a rib while boarding after crashing off a slide-box in a twisted landing. After that I solely switched to skis.
Not to mention that your feet aren't strapped together and you are pointing the way you are going! But I don't know, when I see a boarder in deep powder I can kind of understand why they do it.
Looks super fun! Could you try doing another video like this one in the future but also have a POV from the other person if possible? Maybe then you could stack the videos when the chase gets intense. Just an idea!
That would at least triple the viewership!
Exactly what i missed in this video
good idea
I find it impressive when snowboarders are able to rip down a hard icy hill at speed. Skiers might not think it so difficult, but they have at least twice the edge length as we do. We also don't have a second edge to fall back on when one slips out.
Yes this! 🤩
I'm surprised it took her so long to catch up with how slow snowboarding is.
Ha!@@MegaLokopo
@@choski76 what? Skiing is so much faster than snow boarding, the acceleration is faster and the top speed is faster.
@@MegaLokopo and
That looked like a lot of fun. But damn you could hear how icy it was 😅
Looks fine to me but I ski the Northeast US....
Watching this video was both the most exciting and the most relaxing thing that happened to me all day! Finally helped me get the edge off. It's like ASMR and playing a videogame all at the same time!
I truly believe that if you chose a mountain that wasn't half flat, you would have won that!
Haha remember he got a head start
As a skier and boarder I can tell you, no he wouldn't. You can carry so much more speed on skis even in the steep sections.
unlike most people, click on your link and you get some funny extras 😁
You know when snowboarding is better? When you walk back to the car.
😂😂😂
Lol yes that's what I drove to the mountain for, ease of walking back to my car 🤣
And staying out all night in the bars walking home at midnight or later which happens at least once per holiday usually when chalet staff have their night off
@@kevb6313 I keep shoes in my ski bag, problem solved.
Snowboarding is better in the park, in backcountry and in free ride. Almost all technologies that make ski enjoyable were developped by snowboarders (crved edges, camber, rocker, multilayer construction).
Gotta love how hes making 60-70kmh look like a casual cruise,meanwhile I went somewhere in between that for the first tkme this season and felt like Id break something if i made the tiniest mistake🤣
Most runs I average between 55-70 kph on a board, and if I am racing friends down a steep I've clocked up to 96 kph. I've wiped a number of times in the 55-70 kph range and the the most damage I took was bad snow rash as I was in a T-shirt.
@@evang3014 Don't care
@@prankish1030 K.
I thought he was going really fast until realized it was kmh. 60-70mph is not hard for a decent rider to hit. I am in my 40s and hit higher #s in mph.
@@KaliAndy2 Agreed 60-70 kph isn't too difficult or out of the norm for anyone decent, 60-70 MILES per hour on the other hand can be a bit intense. Never hit 70 mph but I've been up to 60 mph.
Considering the inherent speed advantage skis have, the fact that shes a professional, and the awful icy sounding snow which boards are notoriously bad for... You actually did pretty damn well. Would be interesting to see the same race with a much less crowded slope and a layer of fresh dry powder, I think you might have had a chance
Crowded slope? This is considered extremely peaceful on the slopes of Europe… 😮
@@janjanssen9629 Wow I didnt realize that. I mostly ride northern California and Oregon resorts. This is what Id consider crowded at anything other than the very bottom of the mountain / loading areas.
How is this crowded lmao? Theres like 5people 😂
@@r00kiet80 Some sections where definitely wide open but I see a lot more than 5 people, thats crowded compared to places I m used to. More importantly the snow sounds like an icy crusty mess, thats the worst possible thing on a board
@@ST19859 obviously over the course of 9minutes there were more then 5 people but it was the opposite of crowded atleast to what i am used to here in switzerland. Even runs where you have to walk up are more crowded then this.
That's amazing control at that speed on such an icy run!
Two dots would take this awesome video to the next level.
Yes!
Speeding on a snowboard is quite scary, especially on messed up and bumpy pistes, and honestly i don't like it very much, especially as a beginner, always on the verge of catching an edge :p I find myself having much more fun on wide green or blue slopes than on any red (or black, but i haven't ridden any yet. I rode my very first red the last day of last season).
But that's kind of a pain in the ass when all your friends ski. You just get left behind, they have to wait for you at the end of every run. So you try to keep up and end up falling and hurting yourself X)
Anyway, enough rambling from me. As always it's a pleasure to see you ride :) And Viv looked quite fast indeed!
just be a little patient, once you start relaxing a little on your board, stability will come naturally... once you start to fatigue your body tells you to stand up straigter, cause that costs less energy (i.e. stand squatted vs straight for some minutes) ... so if you have to concentrate for a long cattrack or simillar later in the day, take a short rest before entering.
And then just kill it in your baggy pants, hiphop kind of attitude ;)
I prefer more challenging runs than bombing hills anyway. Especially on the East coast, I have to take my time down the mountain or it'll be over in under 1 minute
@@fireblade1986 Yeah, i'm much more smooth and precise when i'm not focused on what i should do but rather let my mind "flow" and my body do things instinctively. As you said, cattracks are where it really shows. There was a long cattrack at the resort i was lastime, bordered by a nice rocky ravine. For half of the piste, everything was perfect, i was feeling good and didn't think about what i was doing, just being natural. Then at some point i tried to carve just a turn and began to become more "body conscious". And from there the rest of the run became not so enjoyable lmao.
All of that to say that i find a flowing state of mind very important. Almost more important than any other thing.
@@bricky2662 I heard that the east coast is quite icy, so yeah i guess it forces you to keep a fairly safe attitude regarding speed.
you have to squat as much as possible and the board remains stable, sticking to the track.
On blue slopes I'm much faster than skiers because I don't slow down much and can go long on one edge, but when it comes to black or black-red slopes it becomes to scarry to control speed that I have to change edge very often while skiers just run like bullets nearby
maybe because novice skiers go on blues, and experienced skiers go on blacks, and your just a snowboarder.
Gain more experience and you ll see how fast you can go on steep slope on your board just knee practice:)))
@@ChangLRC sometimes you still have to ski down a blue or green to reach a red or black.
I just feel slower on snowboard because I need to change edge after getting tired, not because I need to make a turn to slow down.
There's also the fact that most people aren't racing and there are more beginners on blue. A skier can go straight down as well.
When on a flat slope you never engage the edge. It slows you down. You glide so as to have as little friction as possible. Somehow this video and all the comments just scream: jeeeeeeeeerryyyyyy
Worked great on about 6"-8" of average snow starts to struggle a bit past 8". ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxoHYZbq5g9fkcAtinlTqstNlje-UQkCHN Very light weight and the chute spin control works well. For the low price you get a ton of value. My only complaint is managing the cord as it does take a fair bit of effort to watch and pull the cord out of the way. I found myself having to whip the cord out of the way a lot when I needed to make one way passes to mange the blow direction. It's less of an issue when you can work both directions. A battery powered version would be a lot easier to handle but that is also double the price and requires battery care. I chose the corded version so I didn't have to worry about batteries but I do now see how much work the cord is. I let my neighbor borrow it and it outperformed his smaller gas blower, he was totally sold. Very pleased with the power and operations.My only suggestion is to spend a bit more on a cordless version if you have budget for it. The cord is a bit more of a headache than I thought it would be. Very pleased with the Snow Joe brand and quality.
Nice race! Would've been nice with a split screen view of both your viewpoints
That looked like a fantastic trail to go down, nothing like a long mellow run, though you were zooming hard in most of it. Didn't seem like it was that fast but 50 plus most of the time, seems crazy. Good job.👍
I'm a snowborder my self ( not a very good one) and I think we have to give it to ski. Ski is more efficient but this doesn't mean we are giving up on snowboard.
snowboarding is about feel not speed efficiency
Are you prosperous? Try a hard shell rig or 3-strap stiff boot soft bindings. Get a long stiff almountain & a BIG carving directional. BIG. 160+ for light riders. 170 for heavy.
That'll help. 8)
Snowboards are largely sold like mush all wheel drive mini SUVs. Most people would be better off with a non-mushy sedan (all mountain, pretty stiff, a little longer than they can handle when they buy it, stiffer boots) unless park/pipe is their jam.
Buying my first big expert all-mountain board upped my game a LOT. It took me from about how this guy rides into handle anything, ride anywhere fast territory. Elegant on anything but the nasty stuff. Not as good as this girl skis though. She's a beast.
Glad to see you two and the other folks out there each made it down the hill in one unmashed piece. The rocks alongside the runs could easily cause death if you hit them with your head at 30 or 40 kmh in a slide, helmet or not. A couple of the questions I like to ask hotshots who go straight down the fall line without turning is, "What's more fun, snowboarding for 1 day or 2 days?", "What's more fun, snowboarding for 1 hour or 2 hours?", and "What's more fun, snowboarding for 5 minutes or 10 minutes?" I think the fun of snowboarding arises from acceleration more than speed, whether the acceleration is lateral or vertical in direction. How can you accelerate all the way down the hill? Turn continuously. That's centripetal acceleration, assuming you are taking a curving path and not just skidding on a board turned across the direction of travel.
When you get pretty good it becomes irrelevant. You traverse 1.5x or more of the terrain at the same speed because you ain't speed checking except by traversing the fall line or even carving back up hill a bit, then bringing it around. Good snowboarding (& skiing now that they have the cool new skis) involves lookin up the hill a lot just like powder riding always has. You use SO much of the terrain it's necessary to check uphill for people who are even faster/more badass than you.
That’s cool, I felt it, and I just finished 9 laps at Hood on my Dancehaul 157! Not into speed personally at 66 but I love the way the Dancehaul rides pow or groom.
Rhythm, flow, style, power, grace.....😎
4:25 on the orange pad. First time watching your channel and I love it.
Just remember any crash at that type of speed can have life changing effects. I crashed last March at 65 kph and broke my neck (and too many other injuries to list), so be careful on the slopes. And yes, I'm back on the hill this year, got 11 days in now.
That’s really bad, hope your better now though
@user-qv3gk5xv7k Luckily, I healed completely.
Thanks for getting straight to the point, how all videos should be.
Thanks 😊🙏
Holy crap. She was a bullet coming down! Saw her for 5 seconds and she was gone!
Viv is a WAY better skier than this dude is a rider. See how she handled that traffic? Also dude is on a middling speed rig. No third strap or hard boots, probably pretty mushy soft boots. WAY too short a board. Bad wax I bet.
viv would have beat me in my prime on an all-mountain board. On my 170 with a real still setup? Not by much, put it that way. I would have BURNED through those flats for starters. When your pass is at a ridgeline cruise to powder area where there's powder to be had for days, you learn to WAX that mofo. also the value of a long allmountain board.
It's not just for powder float. It's also for getting around on the flats & through the chop.
I used to ride an F2 with hard boots and spent my holidays in a group of skiers. We were always racing each other. The snow sounded hard in places, major thigh burn. 80+kmh well done.
Much better comparison. I had old burton 3-straps & a 170 unidirectional carver & stiff boots. Suspect I would be much closer to the finish line (but not win 'cause this chick is awesome.) Not what I rode all the time, but much closer to what most skiers ski. Dude lost like 40 seconds just to garbage wax & too small a board. More to bad traffic mitigation.
This shows exactly the pain snowboarders have trying to figure out where the heck skiers are going to go when you pass them.. it's so unpredictable.. ugh. This really shows perfectly the feeling.
Worse is trying to practice with skiers passing you.
I swear in their heads they don't realise you can't snowplough.
Amateur skiers are the best always, trying to get ran over.
@@bg3841 Yes you can, it is easier to snowplough on a snowboard than on skis. The worst is snowboarders standing just below the top of a hill asking to be hit in the back of the head.
@@bg3841 "snowploughing" on a board just means yanking or turning the board perpendicular to the fall line. not hard. Early skill. You're right about skiers & the whole duck & dodge thing. Fortunately good skiers ride a lot more like snowboarders now. They carve more of the slope & make bigger turns. Lot more fun for them too I'm sure.
Love how there’s not too much talking in the start like a lot of you tubers! Also my anxiety was like going insain when u hit 90 like😭🤌
Stunning video! Congrats to both of you! Nice ride for all of us!!!
Thanks!!
@@malcolmmoore 💙💜💙💜
Chasing Andy but this time you're Andy lol
lol
😂
Well done. I’m a pretty new snowboarder and speed is the scariest thing to me on my snowboard, especially on bumpy terrain. Not sure I will ever get the courage/ability to send it like you did here!
Yeah this is after lots of practice 😂
Ditch your mushy park boots for stiffer ones. Ditch your mushy bi-directional for a stiffer all-mountain. In general they oversell park gear. Skis are the opposite (or were.) Buy a board that's a bit too much for you & master it. You'll be WAY more confident. You want to be on edge flat spot on edge. Speed check by going horizontal instead of skidding. Watch the pipe olympians. They pull that off with twerky pipe stuff. You & I need better gear to do so. Once you have it you can ride anywhere with confidence. Plus you'll be ready for deep powder.
I was a fat fffck & better than our host here. A lot of that came from gear I suspect. Days on mtn prob. Also Europe kinda sucks for riding (though I bet there are INSANE locals spots.) Colorado & Utah & Tahoe not so much.
Would be good to see this challenge on a nice snow day. Going fast on crunchy ice is sketchy. Need a fresh dusting so you can feel comfortable going straight down with minimal turning.
minimal turning, who needs to turn?
@@MegaLokopo just the curve of the trail
@@bluemeanie6395 Sometimes I guess, but going as straight as possible straight downhill is a hell of a lot of fun.
This is the best video I watched in 2022... Gave me goosebump!
You did well anticipating everyone's velocity. Impressive stamina for that long run!
I was snowboarder and ski schooler @ JHMR - Jackson Wy. I skied and boarded a few time with Tommy Moe. He was so fast in the hard and fast conditions. A snowboarded, at any level, would not compute. Still. Very Good job! Fun to watch. Slow old guy here. Cheers
JMHR is legendary!
Yes, but who wants to ski hard & fast conditions? I spent 10's of thousands of dollars to find powder, and every penny was worth it, including the ones that only found friendly groomers.
I would also add that to make a good comparison you'd need a very good snowboarder on very specific gear. I don't mean the awesome guy from the Valdez vids either. I mean a racer on a big one ski rig. Tommy would prob still win, but I guarantee you never watched that comparison.
Tommy Moe was as good as it gets at the JHMR. It was 20 years ago when i did turns with Moe. I was on my board. Moe was on skis. It was hard and fast that day.
good fun... thanks ... guess we just need to troll you a little for your boardchoice ;) ... effective edgelength and big sidecut radius are not quite what volumeshifted boards are known for ;) ... really good fun they are anyway... my Superpig is like a Dragonfly... just instant turn even on blank glacierice if you dare.
Nailed it. Give this guy a big board, stiff boots, good wax he does much better.
The only consideration I have: that slope is insanely beautiful!
I agree. Didn't know Alpe d'Huez was that pretty. But I've seen some other runs there on youtube that also look great. Not that skiing around Serfaus is bad, but this is really pretty.
Absolutely LOVE These kinda vids
I would've surely broken something going that fast on icy pistes like that, catch an edge and your done for, great control really
I wish my local resort has such long slope to ride on! Looks so much fun
yeah, I wish also. 30 sec head start will end the race around where I live.
Alpe d'Huez, best station ever
Grear video!!!I really enjoy watching all you'r vids,but I was wondering if you can tell me how you put that speedometer in the down left corner??
Go Pro GPS settings should be enabled first of all and then add it to the video via GoPro Quick.
@@iamtimur4795 yeah but that is not a go pro speedometer
So I'm using a suunto GPS watch that also has a barometric altimeter. I then take that data and plug it into the free Garmin Virb Edit software to make the speedos 👌
At the beginning I thought "hm, I recognise this route". Checked the description and I have in fact done this route many times before! Good to see a familiar slope :D
Yeah it's a great long run!!
Looks so beautiful out there. I may have to finally take an over seas snowboarding trip.
Do it ✌
So would I, if France weren't so expensive.
Bro. If you are gonna drop that money, do it in Chile instead. Or rent a car & chase storms in the US/BC/Alberta. Trust me on this. From what I hear you really gotta know your shit to go off piste there. On piste = the garbage you just watched. Shit looked like East Coast only 3x longer.
USA/CA off-piste for snowboarders (aka powder for days when you hit storms:) Wolf Creek, Mount Bachelor, Fernie, Lizard Head, Mammoth, Heavenly (WAY underrated, ginormous & full of tourist losers who can't ski powder,) [that one up high in tahoe away from the others... kirkland? kirkwoods?], Grand Targhee, 4 corners spots in El Nino, Schweitzer, all the Utah areas, Keystone I hear, couple in Montana I hear, that one w the aspens in NW CO I hear.
You have just been given hard won expert advice. Reread it. I know how to find powder pretty well. In general NEVER "book a trip." Watch the weather & look for bargains online instead. Or rent a subaru & sleep in it! Loves for showers, ski area lots for free camping (or BLM nat forest,) cook on the tailgate. MAXIMUM FUN MINIMUM MONEY.
USA "off piste" is not safe per se, but in general you can go almost anywhere & duck in the trees or walk for powder following the rest & not die. I can testify. My near deaths were hoppng a tree well or getting literally avalanched on a 4' day at Snowshoe. Euro? Oh what a fun strech of half-chop powd.....oooooooooh crevasse mon dieu
You ALREADY LIVIE IN SKI PARADISE.
Chile is groovy though.
That was amazing. You are both excellent in your sport. Thanks for the footage, absolutely mesmerizing.
Our pleasure!
Good effort, but she was so quick! 👍 Must have rattled a few loose fillings with that icy run! 😄
She's WAY better than he is. She's also on a better rig for the race & the conditions. With better wax.
Merely equalizing the rigs (+ learning the new ones) puts him on an unequal but much more competitive footing if only because he'd BLOW through those flats.
deze video was zowel het meest opwindende als het meest ontspannende 🙏🙏👌👌
That's funny Malcom! A week ago I was in Saalbach in Austria with 13 skiers and just me as snowboarder and... Your result on race has been exactly the same to me when I tried to beat my skiers group! At the beginning I took the advantage but finally... No way man! And I was riding my dancehaul as well jajaja!
BTW as someone below comments, the Dada (stiffer right?) is faster board than dancehaul?
what's a dancehaul? Is it a stiff long all-mountain board or a carver? did you have non-mushy boots on firm bindings? Expecting to beat skiers on even semi-park gear is silly. Expecting to hang on at least stiff all-mountain gear is reasonable, because that's what most skiers are riding. My ski buddies didn't do a lot of waiting for me. ZERO if I stopped carving up 1.5 as much of the terrain as them.
They did get better at carving later though when the good new skis came out.
Great vid. You're fast, even on the sketchy parts. But she's clearly elite level. She was swimming in total control.
Yeah she's a boss!
Love watching such content! Great job! Keep it up!
Thanks Abner 🤩
I got on the slopes as a boarder first - early 90s when the kit was fairly shite but by the time I first skied - maybe 15 years later I was an "expert" boarder. And yet after only a few days on skis with my instructor friend I already knew that skiing was faster. It just is. It's not better or worse - but it's faster and more importantly it's EASIER and safer to be faster.
Both sports rock - which is why when we holiday this winter in Tignes I'll be skiing with the kids and wife in the morning and boarding every afternoon.
Do you use any tracking app such as Slopes or Snoww? It'd be great to follow you there 👀
The anxiety I got from this. Yall did amazing! I wonder how different it'll be of she got racing skis on
lol you were never going to beat a skier, but considering you effectively cover twice the distance on a board due to the turns, you did really well on what look like really crappy snow. Gonna have to watch it again now for that bl**dy rubber duck lol
Twice the distance?
I guess he said it because Snwoboarders have to go from side to side doing Ss while skiers can just go in straight line, if you measure the real distance, is like skiers are taking shortcuts compared with snowboaders.
Ok long ass run on garbage corn. Good on both of you for not stopping extra great on the boarder. Been riding skis for 30 years and I would have stoppedat 5-6 in on the crappy marbles…
Looked amazing! Both perspectives for the rematch please! You both looked so knackard after, and those conditions! Great watch 👍🏼
That was great fun. Well done by you both. Imagine how fast she would have been on a pair of Atomic Metron EX's!!
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Trolled? Viv skies _beautifully_
Totally. She smokes the FFFFF out of this guy. Great skier. Medium speed checking. Our boy here? Medium. Handled traffic beautifully. Our boy here? clumsy'ish.
Also she's on STIFF boots & I presume fast skis. I presume she does her own wax day to day. This guy is on an all purpose rig that's too short for speed. Too short period. Bad wax.
Put him in my stiff boots (or hard shells) & 3 strap bindings on my 170 carving rig w/ new wax? He loses like 1/4 of the speed he lost in the flats. It's a race.
Ah, man! The Dancehaul in black and gold! 💯😱Looks sick retro, like an -83 Datsun! I was so keen on buying that one last season. When finally decided they where all gone…😢 Went for the Nitro Woodcarver this season instead.🚀
Wow that snow looks incredible and soft. Great views too! Which resort? My peak speed ever snowboarding is 115 kmh or about 72 mph
115? i find that hard to believe.. the world record is 131 and I doubt your that close. Not trying to talk shit but going even 80 is insane. I think your spedometer is off
win or lose, your videos are always fun to watch
Thanks 😊😊😊
Would have liked to see this with a proper 1,9m Raceboard and Hardboots - Speeds would have been way higher on this kind of descent with nearly no need to drift at all..
So... not snowboarding.
@@cowscantfilm ??? totally snowboarding. Skis have evolved to give you a better selection just like you have with snowboards. I typically rode a 3-strap locked to L binding w stiff boots. Long stiff all-mountain. Other than park/pipe extremes I sure as FFFK looked like a snowboarder. A damn good one in fact despite being no great athlete. You drive your riced out suzuki sidekick. I'll drive my M3. Who the fuck you think wins? Which one of us ain't a car racer?
(I wouldn't have beat this girl. She's a damn fine skier. Wouldn't be resting when I caught her at the bottom though. Only have missed a spot or two in the lift line.)
@@theminister1154 Good for you big lad. But this is a different sport, call it snowboarding if you like, but it's a different discipline, one which Malcolm clearly does not participate in.
Let's be honest here, she is very very good. Majority of good skiers would struggle to keep up with you. I am talking guys who skied all their lives and get plenty of days on the mountain every year.
Wow, this was a fun video to watch. Living vicariously through you guys! 😁
Perhaps you should try with an alpine snowboard.
Would have been good to have footage from both of you 👍
What a run. You guys are both great!
Haha thanks 🙏😄✌️
I've been skiing all my life and I already knew how this is gonna end before even watching it ^^ not once did a snowboarder overtake me if I didnt want him to
because you haven’t met me 😮💨
@@trippgio9981 you hitting on me? :p still call bs, seeing how I towed every snowdoarder ever on flat stretches
nah, i gotta troll you for not sending it at least 80km/h on a directional snowboard lol. you did it once and your control was beautiful, have more confidence in your riding. good video tho, looked so fun, love long runs.
Still amazed how fast you can go. I seem to get pretty unstable at moderate speeds. I'm wondering if my snowboard is too small and having a bigger one will help with stability. I'm 6' 210lbs on a 159. 10.5 feet but regular width board. I've been thinking of getting something 163 or longer and wide. Will that make a difference?
Go Jones Flagship 165w for fast ride. im lighter than you on a 162w and it hauls ass yet stable as a Cadillac
@@je5406 thanks! I've looked at that it's a bit out of my price range but I've been looking at similar boards. 162-165, wide. I don't do park so all-mountain that can handle the occasional pow.
Your board length and board type makes a huge difference. Im 5'10" and 220lbs and have 3 boards in my rideable quiver. My libtech skunk ape is a 165w and is what I use for my high speed runs as it is long and stable. I can reach speeds up to 50mph fairly comfortably. I use a couple smaller wide boards in 158w like my Marhar Lumberjack or Libtech Box knife for days where I'm looking for more side hits or tree runs. Smaller boards give me better maneuverability while my longer board gives better stabilization for speed. Most of my boards, I bought used off classifieds for cheaper and they work great.
a longer wide board will certainly help with better control at high speeds. You will sacrifice some turning quickness though. I am 6'2 230 ride a 162 wide. My first board was 169 then I went as low as 155. Short boards are nice if going into tight places and have to make quick turns. But they will start to chatter at high speeds. A 163W camber board would probably be ideal for you. Biggest thing is making sure you are riding your edges and not sliding back of your board to turn and slow down.
@@KaliAndy2 I tried a blue run with a steep entrance going into a flat long straight. I went flat base and still didn't top 40km/h according to my Sportly app. The only time I remember going over 40 was when I demoed a 162w board. Maybe I'm too heavy for my board so even the base drags and slows me down. It's hard to get the right size and availability of the boards I want locally.
I used to work on top of Andesite Mtn at Big Sky in MT. We would race down after work to try to get a couple lift rides in. Ambush is a pretty steep blue run. I hit 62.1 there once. I was on the ragged edge. Washed out on that run more than once. I have the gps to prove it. On a mid-2000’s 158 Ride Timeless. A couple skiers that worked with me would leave me standing still.
Malcolm, great to watch you push it to the limit, I have a question and maybe you could do a video on it, I’m a intermediate Snowboarder and my legs get so tired after say ten mins of boarding, I fell ok but would be good if you had any advice, it always seems on my leading foot/leg?. Cheers 🥂
Learn how to ride switch :) Then you can ride the other way to tire out the other leg.
Could be a sign to tweak your binding angles. I used to ride 15/-6, and now I’m at 24/9 cause that’s what felt most comfortable
Do leg presses at the gym.
@@byunism
I can ride switch, that’s not a problem at all, I have my bindings set up 15/15 duck to allow me to ride switch, but still my legs burn out, maybe it’s because I’m 53 and still living the dream, never want to give it up though.
@@itskeirashorts4520 the age probably has a lot to do with it. I'm 41 and just got back home from a weekend trip. The drive back killed my lower back and now I'm having a hard time walking. Getting old sucks but let's keep riding until our legs fall off!
Snowboards have advantages but on such an easy terrain and ride it is more fun on skis.and of course skis are faster. But then again it is not a a competition. On skis: For all that know what I am talking about: Always dance on the best snow left and right. You got around about a meter .... but that is swish swish and dance dance ... have fun 😉I personally love slush snow. Stay low and let it take you!!!
That was a really long run. I love it. Can't find anything like this in the US
Where is it located?
@@TonyMorral, *bit* late, but it's Oz Vaujany, France (based on a welcome sign on one part of the run).
Hey Malcolm, bad luck this time. If you get a chance could you post the route? Did you start at the top of dome down to oz?
Great to watch, but why no helmet? Especially when you say it was bumpy and icy, and you are racing. Skier had better sense this time ;-)
I think you lost because of the flat section and way too many turns at the start.
I think his camera is helmet mounted, and he is taking his whole helmet off to film himself
@@SnowwithEmilyJo Ah yes - sorry Malcolm, I take it back! :-) Thanks, Emily Jo! It is clear from the start of the video...it was just so smooth at the end when he took it off...
Awesome ride very satisfying to watch. I love it 😍
Thanks 😊😊
It was relaxing enough to watch that i didn't speed it up even!
i love how the riding style is sooo different to europe. In the alps, at the right time of the day this is cruising speed for everyone.
I'm not sure where you think this video is?
@@malcolmmoore oh i thought its murica. Forget the europe part then
Nice wee run, I was buzzin watching it. Legs would have been burning
On fire mate 🔥🔥🔥
Awesome! So cool to have those super long runs all the time!!
Yeah so lucky here 🙌
I skied once on a school trip but since then never again. Recently got interested in it again and was wondering why I was so cautious about skiing before.
This video has reminded me why: because of all the sheeple on the pists.... This is so fricking stressful, like why don't people just generally ski e.g. on the right side of the track and let fast people move on the left?
I love the skiers making insanely wide weaving patterns in front of you. Never understood why they have to take up the entire run width like that. Then you’ve got to try and time getting by them and half the time their pattern changes last second.
I have only ever snowboarded in niseko Japan. That looks like packed end of season (late April early may) snow in niseko. Is it like that all season long?
Malcolm, how do you record your speed and path to later put them on the video as an overlay?
Maybe someone else already ask this but for the speedometer, did you use an app or is something that comes with the camera?
What a crazy head start. I'm amazed it took her that long to blow past you.
I'm so happy they made this emoji 🙄
So much fun. Haven't been on the slopes in years, my knees are not like when I was 13. Viv has good form, (couldn't see you bro).
If you both straight lined a powder run - what would the variables be to make the winner?
I abandoned skiing and moved onto the board at 55. Not because of speed, just the opposite! Because I knew I am too adventurous for my low reaction speed -- and my vertigo.
On the board, every small slope feels 3× higher, hence more fun.
Yes to this 🙌🙌
Give HER the go-pro!
Joking, nice video!
You know? Because of other people probably she couldn't go as fast as she would. Given the snow conditions (kinda hard and messy one, judging by the sound your board makes), i'd have used harderd board with hard boots (giant slalom ones) and kept edging. More speed at the cost of more risk :P But kinda good video, I like te way you respect other people on the track!!!
Great video! This looked super fun!
Was the speedometer correct? Parts where he was going alMost 80 just didn't seem like that. And when he wipes 20 off with just a slight lean. Its just seems unreal
Great job on the mountains to both of you! Loved the video!
Hi, nice race. Your legs were burning, as you said. Have you tried the (Swiss XBionic) compression gear such as socks and half legs?
Nope I haven't!