Because of your videos I'm a bit a head of this game, I have a pen thief in my unit, so I now keep 7 pens on me at all times. My main pen, it's a nice heavy pen that EVERYONE knows I use and so far is unique. The officer loaner pen. It's a 0.5mm pilot, usually uncommon The backup Red Consoler pen, if they're found with one, they get seg instantly cause "no" And I keep a bunch (usually 4) Inmate pens. "Hey CO I need a pen" I got them covered. They're the floppy jelly pens we keep on hand just for this. They need a pen, they get those pens.
The other side, the ONLY pen thieves in the facility I work at are the artist types and I "get it" my heart goes to them on that as an artist myself, but, no. And when the one that's bugging me for my steel and my red pen, he keeps showing me his contraband marker collection... And has been added to my "random" room shakedown list this week if I can get an officer to sign off on it.
Useful information for those who work in corrections, custody or civilian. Understand your role, and who we are dealing with. The manipulation aspect is pervasive and so important for staff to understand themselves and the inmate. Speak up and help each other too. This is an undervalued industry, and those who want to find value in their jobs can do it the right way,
I was on OJT almost a decade ago and a visitor asked me for a pen. I gave it to her. I got in so much trouble. The LT in charge of me at the time chewed my ass, the Sgt. chewed my ass and I felt humiliated. I never made a mistake like that again. You can always give something to someone, but you cant take it back, so wait until you are absolutely authorized to give something to someone before you do.
Been a CO for only about a month now and freakin love it, you’re videos have been a big tool I’ve used for learning so I just wanted to say I appreciate you and thank you for doing these.
Wow. Thank you so much for commenting an sharing your thoughts. I am glad you love this profession. It has tons of value. Welcome aboard my brother. And if you ever need anything ..hit me up.
I want to thank you for your videos. I am a new officer and would like to ask you how to become respected by the inmates and staff as a rookie officer.
One of most common methods used by Inmates is the wolf pack and shepherd set up. One or more inmates will give new/weak Officer a very hard time bordering on physical aggression. The shepherd inmate will intervene and challenge the wolf pack and explain to the officer that they are not all like those guys. The shepherd inmate will also intervene for the officer when he knows the supervisors are on his case by volunteering to clean and keep order in the unit. After several shepherding incidents the shepherd will ask for a small favor; a coke, a piece of gum or a special privilege . If denied, the shepherd will send the wolf pack back at the officer and stop all shepherding protection and show open disappointment that the officer couldn't have done a little thing for him after he put his neck on the line. If the Officer bites, it is all over, he is a Duck. It is an elaborate set up and takes time, but we all know times is all they have.
Hey, just saw you on a live chat on lockdown 23 and 1. I like the things Josh says and like this channel as well. I have never been in trouble with the law but have family who worked corrections, I worked with prisoners once or twice in the hospital when I worked and knew nurses, EMTs who worked in the prisons. I also had a bad experience with a member of my work family who asked me to talk with her brother who was locked up. Horrible, horrible. Wish I had been able to see something like this before. I was to nice and innocent and it took a lot for me to get free from him. Keep up the good work. I know you're helping people.
I get where you’re coming from with this, but in my experience I haven’t had an offender get a pen from me and then groom me for anything else. The worst I ever had was an inmate offered me $100 to bring in cigarettes. I literally laughed and said “come on man, you know I can’t do that” he said “worth a shot” and that was it
They play on basic human decency because we are taught not to be rude. Giving someone an ink pen that needs it at the moment is considered polite. An inmate sees that as a weakness (opportunity). The same inmate does a new inmate a favor (new inmate is green or naive) & the veteran inmate sees that as he owes me. So whether he does you a favor or you do him a favor you owe him. The selfishness & rudeness in that is so fucked up. I had an ex-con tell me that inmates like this put coffee, soap, sugar packs, or anything a new inmate might "need", on the new inmates' bed or cell. If the new inmate uses that stuff that was on his bed or in his cell, then he now owes the person that put the stuff there. I think I pissed him off because I said I would use whatever is on MY BED or in MY CELL. WTF I mean WTF kinda sense does that make! 🤔🤔😡 that shit got me heated! I told him that's like parking your car in my driveway & expecting me not drive it or touch. FUCK ... THAT! Put you car, your coffee, or what the fuck ever in my area ... it's gone motherfucker! You want it back ... well come GET IT BITCH😐
GREAT PERSPECTIVE! We always tell the inmates that nothing is for free. If you get something, expect that eventually you have to give something. Sometimes, just the act of accepting the favor can make the other inmate think that you are willing to go along with any subsequent request
It's like a bag of hot cheetos. You start out eating small amounts "controlling the portion" but then eventually when you look, you ate the whole bag! You are so correct! It's dangerous to look at only the small steps and not the leap! Thanks so much for your videos, it definitely helped out!
Thank you! Do you have any tips or a video already up about female COs and the challenges faced with coworkers and inmates? Just a rookie looking for some more info.
Ha I remember reading part of the story in the academy. I hope your channel creates a good dialogue with citizens. I wanted to do something similar and include video from work but it wasn’t an option other officers or supervisors would like.
I supervise by walking around. I search a cell with each of my officers EVERY DAY. That gives me the oppurtunity to see how they search and to learn from them and for them to learn from me. If you do a cell search and dont have the ABILITY to write a case, you are wrong. I didnt say you have to write a case, but every convict has something. This is your oppurtunity to have leverage and to control your cell block. You can choose to write that case or not. It is up to you. If your block is being rowdy, sit down and start writng cases. They will shut up when visitation is gone, outside rec., etc.
The successful net working of slowly corralling the Correctional Officer, depends also on poor training, poor supervising or managing by the Sergeants, Lt. and or Capt. ; if there is disunity among the officers themselves, then this makes a perfect breeding ground for the inmates to separate and literally divide all or most of the Correctional Trainees. Consequently this is one reason why there is such a high turnover rate in Corrections. The job in and of itself is tough, this animosity or apathy among the officers makes matters worse, in this vein everyone loses.
Elliott Allen you are 100 percent correct. And inmates will see that divide and they will conquer. That is why we need to promote unity at all levels and across the board.
How do inmates get pens to write letters to their family? Do they write a written request or is there a specific monitored place where they can go to write letters? What are the policies for that?
@@TierTalk If an inmate needs a pen... how would they be able to obtain one initially? For example: If an inmate asks for a pen (assuming under the table) what would be the way for them to obtain one according to policy?
@@TierTalk i have an issue where my unit refuses to listen to me until a Sargent comes. I try to be nice but not too nice they took advantage of it. I become slightly strict im an ass. I don't do what they what its "but co please do this."
I have a pen that inmates can use to fill out paperwork (black ink for records requests, signing for child finds) is a hot pink clad pen with a hot pink flower. Lol. That thing has NOT left the classroom!
I don't work in corrections but I see this type of manipulation happening where I work, people lose awareness that anything and everything can happen at work or within relationships. Like he said the thing is sticking to your role and if you question something the answer is no like my grandma used to say
I believe what we provide here could help other professions. If you’re interested, for free, I can send you my link to my Inmate manipulation course. It’s free just email me at gangianthony@yahoo.com.
I was a supervisor for many years, and always recommended that new staff ask senior staff. I made it clear that they could come to me, but for the sake of peaceful labour relations, I suggested that they speak to senior union members. I would direct them to good professionals and not cranks. You don’t want to owe an inmate for anything.........ever.
Absolutely, I did the same as a supervisor, I told them my take and then recommended they check out my ideas with the senior COs. It always blew them away.
Thank you for the video I am An older guy x military and new to the corrections system Main problem I am having is I am too nice of a guy. I don't give anything to inmates or anything like that but the last 2 hours of my last shift was pretty rough I lost control to where they just were not listening to my orders. One inmate pissed me off to the point my PTSD kicked in and for a few seconds I forgot where I was, I was going to hurt that inmate but Thankfully I was able to collect my self in time and regain my composure. Do you have any advice on 2 topics, one how to stop the stealing of trays during chow call, and how to balance that internal switch from hard ass to easy going. I have always been a really easy going person always liked in all my other professions and this being the 'bad guy' is a whole new game for me, I don't really care for it however I do understand it is something I need to master if I am going to advance further in this career field.
For your second question, always remain yourself And stick to the policy and procedure. Remember, you’re not there to be their friends. You have a prescribe role to perform and those duties should be clearly defined. There is discretion in the job he perform, but you must be consistent fair and firm.
You do not have to be a "bad guy". Follow procedure, policy and law. Be firm, Fair and consistent. If you tell an inmate to do something and they refuse not to comply, there are measures you can take. Ask your field training officer or supervisor for guidance.
As far as an inmate asking for a pen, I just give him one of those flex pens we give them in segregation. I only give to an inmate what they are authorized to have and what we are supposed to issue them. Anything else, I simply tell them no, they can buy it from the commissary.
i feel as if you just dont give them anything to begin with you wouldnt come to this problem. if its your job you know your duties and why you are there. why give them anything in the first place whether it be a pencil or not they can buy it in commensary. if you never get on a personal level with the inmates to begin with you shouldnt have a problem.
Does your facility have indigent packages, i.e. inmate pen, writing tablet, some hygiene items, etc.? I remember Texas doing this at one time. If they need a writing pen, either they have money on their books to buy one from canteen/commissary, or they can apply for an indigent package. Or they can borrow a pen from another inmate. Give them nothing that is from the civilian world.
This will not be a PC comment, but staff that grew up unpopular are at greater risk, and staff that are single, or financial issues. Inmates watch us 24\7, they know our shifts, staff also talk too loud too near inmates and find out things that way to. The inmates have nothing but time, and are patient, they offer the means to solve home issues. never trust an inmate, they can be acting under pressure from other inmates, so even one that you know, may be forced to act against you. You are so right, COs need to police and remind each other, excellent point.
I'm not a CO or a criminal but I found downing a duck an interesting read. A rare honest look into the mind of a predator/manipulator. It's good advice for not being a mark in life in general because the same methods and mindset are used. Also thought it was interesting that he hated the guy he manipulated into busting him out of jail so much that it landed him back in jail. Almost sort of funny and ironic.
And also my boss at the time said I suffered from super aide syndrome. In front of all the residents and employees. It was a constant pinning against others which left me alone. Again I know my role I’m saying there were things that led up to everything
We have inmates pens they can have. They ask for the pens I buy almost daily and get told if they touch my pen, I'll lock down the house till I get it back lol. It's all about setting a precedent. I'm cool but I'm not "gonna catch a charge or lose my job for you" cool.
These type of incidents happen usually when experienced line staff have a selfish culture and give very little help or assistance to incoming new officers, supervisors neglect their duty to mentor and train, and administrators under-staff their facilities.
Look folks, I've done Corrections for federal and state. Most officers aren't dumb enough to fall for these games inmates play. We already get a bad wrap in the media so I hope the host of this video finds a way to explain these things while also not leaving room for the public to think "wow, what kind of stupid people are we hiring as officers"?.
KevinPris COV actually..you miss the whole point of the video. First off, everyone is vulnerable. Knowing that you are vulnerable keeps the shield up. This video is to make sure we know how the game is played and why it works. It has nothing to do with us being less than what we are. I am on the job myself and believe greatly in this profession and what we do. This is an informative video meant to educate. No different then what you would get from the academy or books that relate to the same topic. Education is key. Don’t run from learning. Embrace it
KevinPris COV btw I have fifteen years in and began my career as an officer, move my way up the ranks and now I am on the administrative end. I also sit the board on the NJ American correctional association. So I have a great perspective on this field and share what I have learned. I have been on every network promoting the field of corrections and speak at major correctional events. Let’s learn from each other and never shut down a venue that offers advice or education to others who seek it.
Tier Talk UA-cam Channel . Not intending to dismiss the video...there are those few officers who fall for the inmates' games. However, on the aggregate, most officers don't fall for the bs. Great advice for newbies and a few vets. But looking at the profession as a whole, I see us being disrespected alot. So, I'm not missing the point of the video... just wanna put it out there that officers aren't as they are portrayed in movies and other media. We've been poo-pood on far too long. Public opinion is being shaped by misinformation...(not referring to this video). If I were a civillian who hasn't seen the inside, and I saw this video, I'd incorrectly think that officers were gullible and therefore fit that into the stereotype that's been hammered on by mainstream media, etc. My comment is merely to inform civilians that most officers aren't badly trained and are very aware of the games inmates play.
It also shows that we are human and it can happen. I have seen good officer go down because inmates find away to manipulate a situation to their advantage. You are focusing a lot on the individual and no focus is being put on situations that can arise either by inmates or us. My class on manipulation focuses on situational factors that can aid an inmate in their game of manipulation. Everyday we are playing chess.
A friend of mine had his house torched because he wrote a lifer up for some bs that no other co would. Dude even admitted it and told him to call home.
@@southjerseysound7340 what was the outcome and who provided the inmate with his home address. That sounds like a personnel issue. Dude needs an immediate relocation and no outside communication.
malik malik there needs to be a proper screening process that checks ones background and ones physical abilities. We need to see if the person is also mentally stable. There is a lot to check
Anthony? In my situation other employees did not like me the only ppl who did were my residents. So there’s that too. Co workers not banning together due to jealousy so you feel alone
Because of your videos I'm a bit a head of this game, I have a pen thief in my unit, so I now keep 7 pens on me at all times.
My main pen, it's a nice heavy pen that EVERYONE knows I use and so far is unique.
The officer loaner pen. It's a 0.5mm pilot, usually uncommon
The backup Red Consoler pen, if they're found with one, they get seg instantly cause "no"
And I keep a bunch (usually 4) Inmate pens. "Hey CO I need a pen" I got them covered. They're the floppy jelly pens we keep on hand just for this. They need a pen, they get those pens.
The other side, the ONLY pen thieves in the facility I work at are the artist types and I "get it" my heart goes to them on that as an artist myself, but, no. And when the one that's bugging me for my steel and my red pen, he keeps showing me his contraband marker collection... And has been added to my "random" room shakedown list this week if I can get an officer to sign off on it.
Great idea. This will be shared.
Well done dram
Useful information for those who work in corrections, custody or civilian. Understand your role, and who we are dealing with. The manipulation aspect is pervasive and so important for staff to understand themselves and the inmate. Speak up and help each other too. This is an undervalued industry, and those who want to find value in their jobs can do it the right way,
These are Perfect words written I am going to pin this to the top of my comments.
I was on OJT almost a decade ago and a visitor asked me for a pen. I gave it to her. I got in so much trouble. The LT in charge of me at the time chewed my ass, the Sgt. chewed my ass and I felt humiliated. I never made a mistake like that again. You can always give something to someone, but you cant take it back, so wait until you are absolutely authorized to give something to someone before you do.
Been a CO for only about a month now and freakin love it, you’re videos have been a big tool I’ve used for learning so I just wanted to say I appreciate you and thank you for doing these.
Wow. Thank you so much for commenting an sharing your thoughts. I am glad you love this profession. It has tons of value. Welcome aboard my brother. And if you ever need anything ..hit me up.
Absolutely grateful for this Anthony!! Huge huge eye opener!
Wow. Thank you for watching. I really appreciate that
I want to thank you for your videos. I am a new officer and would like to ask you how to become respected by the inmates and staff as a rookie officer.
I have a video on that. Let me give you the link. And thank you for listening.
I have a video on that. Let me give you the link. And thank you for listening.
Best advice I was ever given in Corrections: Be Firm, Fair and Consistent.ua-cam.com/video/7WIy-h_t5dc/v-deo.html
Thank you sir for the advice and the link. I appreciate you and the knowledge you give.
dsmiley250 you are welcome
One of most common methods used by Inmates is the wolf pack and shepherd set up. One or more inmates will give new/weak Officer a very hard time bordering on physical aggression. The shepherd inmate will intervene and challenge the wolf pack and explain to the officer that they are not all like those guys. The shepherd inmate will also intervene for the officer when he knows the supervisors are on his case by volunteering to clean and keep order in the unit. After several shepherding incidents the shepherd will ask for a small favor; a coke, a piece of gum or a special privilege . If denied, the shepherd will send the wolf pack back at the officer and stop all shepherding protection and show open disappointment that the officer couldn't have done a little thing for him after he put his neck on the line. If the Officer bites, it is all over, he is a Duck. It is an elaborate set up and takes time, but we all know times is all they have.
This is purely based on the feeling of obligation mixed in with Fear. Great example. Thank you
Good info.
Hey, just saw you on a live chat on lockdown 23 and 1. I like the things Josh says and like this channel as well. I have never been in trouble with the law but have family who worked corrections, I worked with prisoners once or twice in the hospital when I worked and knew nurses, EMTs who worked in the prisons. I also had a bad experience with a member of my work family who asked me to talk with her brother who was locked up. Horrible, horrible. Wish I had been able to see something like this before. I was to nice and innocent and it took a lot for me to get free from him. Keep up the good work. I know you're helping people.
Thank you. I appreciate these kind words
I get where you’re coming from with this, but in my experience I haven’t had an offender get a pen from me and then groom me for anything else. The worst I ever had was an inmate offered me $100 to bring in cigarettes. I literally laughed and said “come on man, you know I can’t do that” he said “worth a shot” and that was it
Great teaching video!! I work in corrections, have for the last 15 years aaaand this video explains one issue I see so often, sadly.
Thank you Vanessa. Please check out my manipulation play list
Please explain what you have seen and how you address it. Thanks.
They play on basic human decency because we are taught not to be rude. Giving someone an ink pen that needs it at the moment is considered polite. An inmate sees that as a weakness (opportunity). The same inmate does a new inmate a favor (new inmate is green or naive) & the veteran inmate sees that as he owes me. So whether he does you a favor or you do him a favor you owe him. The selfishness & rudeness in that is so fucked up.
I had an ex-con tell me that inmates like this put coffee, soap, sugar packs, or anything a new inmate might "need", on the new inmates' bed or cell. If the new inmate uses that stuff that was on his bed or in his cell, then he now owes the person that put the stuff there. I think I pissed him off because I said I would use whatever is on MY BED or in MY CELL. WTF I mean WTF kinda sense does that make! 🤔🤔😡 that shit got me heated! I told him that's like parking your car in my driveway & expecting me not drive it or touch. FUCK ... THAT! Put you car, your coffee, or what the fuck ever in my area ... it's gone motherfucker! You want it back ... well come GET IT BITCH😐
GREAT PERSPECTIVE! We always tell the inmates that nothing is for free. If you get something, expect that eventually you have to give something. Sometimes, just the act of accepting the favor can make the other inmate think that you are willing to go along with any subsequent request
Good attitude. Worse sort of people are those who feel they are owed with no agreement from others. Excellent boundaries mate.
It's like a bag of hot cheetos. You start out eating small amounts "controlling the portion" but then eventually when you look, you ate the whole bag! You are so correct! It's dangerous to look at only the small steps and not the leap! Thanks so much for your videos, it definitely helped out!
Hannah Kim thank you for watching Hannah
Thank you For your video. I was just hired and start my CO Training in two weeks.
Thank you for watching. And welcome to the field. Good luck in your training. Any questions...hit me up
what state
VA. Sorry for the late reply Jay.
Me too. This is a great site!!
Anthony you are a rockstar your tips are helpful and your vids inspire and encourage me keep doing it right , respect
Wow. Thank you ..that means everything to me. Makes me want to go right back out there and make some more.
Thank you! Do you have any tips or a video already up about female COs and the challenges faced with coworkers and inmates? Just a rookie looking for some more info.
Of course. I will send you some links. Stand by
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Ha I remember reading part of the story in the academy. I hope your channel creates a good dialogue with citizens. I wanted to do something similar and include video from work but it wasn’t an option other officers or supervisors would like.
CTdrowning I know. Some frown on what I am doing. But we have to do it. Or else we will continue to be bastardized
I supervise by walking around. I search a cell with each of my officers EVERY DAY. That gives me the oppurtunity to see how they search and to learn from them and for them to learn from me. If you do a cell search and dont have the ABILITY to write a case, you are wrong. I didnt say you have to write a case, but every convict has something. This is your oppurtunity to have leverage and to control your cell block. You can choose to write that case or not. It is up to you. If your block is being rowdy, sit down and start writng cases. They will shut up when visitation is gone, outside rec., etc.
The successful net working of slowly corralling the Correctional Officer, depends also on poor training, poor supervising or managing by the Sergeants, Lt. and or Capt. ; if there is disunity among the officers themselves, then this makes a perfect breeding ground for the inmates to separate and literally divide all or most of the Correctional Trainees. Consequently this is one reason why there is such a high turnover rate in Corrections. The job in and of itself is tough, this animosity or apathy among the officers makes matters worse, in this vein everyone loses.
Elliott Allen you are 100 percent correct. And inmates will see that divide and they will conquer. That is why we need to promote unity at all levels and across the board.
Powerful lesson. Thank you sir!
malik malik anytime.
Thank you! Drowning A Duck is so true, I have read that book Games Inmates Play.
It’s a must read
Thank you for sharing this
Thank you for watching this.
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About to join the academy... Ive been watching these video's non stop. Any of these videos, anyone recommend for someone in my shoes?
O.G. White Breed19XX I have a whole playlist on inmate manipulation. I enjoy making those the most.
@@TierTalk i really enjoyed this one... Never even would of thought twice about giving a pen to an inmate. Thank you, i will look for them.
O.G. White Breed19XX here is the playlist. ua-cam.com/play/PLiVMpa2AtiD96Pc0hWV22O6Kth1ZTfEyy.html
How do inmates get pens to write letters to their family? Do they write a written request or is there a specific monitored place where they can go to write letters? What are the policies for that?
They are allowed to have writing tools. Great question by the way....thank you for asking
@@TierTalk If an inmate needs a pen... how would they be able to obtain one initially? For example:
If an inmate asks for a pen (assuming under the table) what would be the way for them to obtain one according to policy?
@@misschipsahoy7866 Some prisons don’t allow Ink pens on the pencils. Because the inmates use the ink for tattooing.
@@TierTalk i have an issue where my unit refuses to listen to me until a Sargent comes. I try to be nice but not too nice they took advantage of it. I become slightly strict im an ass. I don't do what they what its "but co please do this."
@@heavensauthority1736 I can make this a show. Is they okay. It’s a great topic
I have a pen that inmates can use to fill out paperwork (black ink for records requests, signing for child finds) is a hot pink clad pen with a hot pink flower.
Lol. That thing has NOT left the classroom!
That is Awesome. Lol
GREAT VIDEO GANGI !
Thank you kat. That means a lot to me
I don't work in corrections but I see this type of manipulation happening where I work, people lose awareness that anything and everything can happen at work or within relationships. Like he said the thing is sticking to your role and if you question something the answer is no like my grandma used to say
I believe what we provide here could help other professions. If you’re interested, for free, I can send you my link to my Inmate manipulation course. It’s free just email me at gangianthony@yahoo.com.
I was a supervisor for many years, and always recommended that new staff ask senior staff. I made it clear that they could come to me, but for the sake of peaceful labour relations, I suggested that they speak to senior union members. I would direct them to good professionals and not cranks. You don’t want to owe an inmate for anything.........ever.
David Shepherd well said sir
Absolutely, I did the same as a supervisor, I told them my take and then recommended they check out my ideas with the senior COs. It always blew them away.
Thank you for the video I am An older guy x military and new to the corrections system Main problem I am having is I am too nice of a guy. I don't give anything to inmates or anything like that but the last 2 hours of my last shift was pretty rough I lost control to where they just were not listening to my orders. One inmate pissed me off to the point my PTSD kicked in and for a few seconds I forgot where I was, I was going to hurt that inmate but Thankfully I was able to collect my self in time and regain my composure. Do you have any advice on 2 topics, one how to stop the stealing of trays during chow call, and how to balance that internal switch from hard ass to easy going. I have always been a really easy going person always liked in all my other professions and this being the 'bad guy' is a whole new game for me, I don't really care for it however I do understand it is something I need to master if I am going to advance further in this career field.
For your second question, always remain yourself And stick to the policy and procedure. Remember, you’re not there to be their friends. You have a prescribe role to perform and those duties should be clearly defined. There is discretion in the job he perform, but you must be consistent fair and firm.
Remember, it’s always better to say NO, especially if you don’t know the answer
Lawrence McClure the best advice Well said
You do not have to be a "bad guy". Follow procedure, policy and law. Be firm, Fair and consistent. If you tell an inmate to do something and they refuse not to comply, there are measures you can take. Ask your field training officer or supervisor for guidance.
I'd be interested to hear your opinion on the treatment of Thomas Silverstein. Secondly, do you feel Supermax Prisons are beneficial?
I answered part of it on another video.
Why we only do one
As far as an inmate asking for a pen, I just give him one of those flex pens we give them in segregation. I only give to an inmate what they are authorized to have and what we are supposed to issue them. Anything else, I simply tell them no, they can buy it from the commissary.
Ay Kay that is the key. Any small item, no matter how superficial it maybe, can be us d as leverage.
i feel as if you just dont give them anything to begin with you wouldnt come to this problem. if its your job you know your duties and why you are there. why give them anything in the first place whether it be a pencil or not they can buy it in commensary. if you never get on a personal level with the inmates to begin with you shouldnt have a problem.
Well said
“Drowning a duck and why it works”
😂
Does your facility have indigent packages, i.e. inmate pen, writing tablet, some hygiene items, etc.? I remember Texas doing this at one time. If they need a writing pen, either they have money on their books to buy one from canteen/commissary, or they can apply for an indigent package. Or they can borrow a pen from another inmate. Give them nothing that is from the civilian world.
We provide them with what they need if they can’t afford it
Great advice!
Moses Rodriguez thank you
Thank you
This will not be a PC comment, but staff that grew up unpopular are at greater risk, and staff that are single, or financial issues. Inmates watch us 24\7, they know our shifts, staff also talk too loud too near inmates and find out things that way to. The inmates have nothing but time, and are patient, they offer the means to solve home issues. never trust an inmate, they can be acting under pressure from other inmates, so even one that you know, may be forced to act against you. You are so right, COs need to police and remind each other, excellent point.
David Shepherd you comment is dead on accurate.
I'm not a CO or a criminal but I found downing a duck an interesting read. A rare honest look into the mind of a predator/manipulator. It's good advice for not being a mark in life in general because the same methods and mindset are used. Also thought it was interesting that he hated the guy he manipulated into busting him out of jail so much that it landed him back in jail. Almost sort of funny and ironic.
And also my boss at the time said I suffered from super aide syndrome. In front of all the residents and employees. It was a constant pinning against others which left me alone. Again I know my role I’m saying there were things that led up to everything
That is a no no. You should never correct an employee in front of the inmates
Convict here ask me what you need to know through a prisoner eyes
Emmanuelle Charles .... LOL. Did you not watch the video.
Why do you still consider yourself a convict? Do you still view yourself as an inmate?
We have inmates pens they can have. They ask for the pens I buy almost daily and get told if they touch my pen, I'll lock down the house till I get it back lol. It's all about setting a precedent. I'm cool but I'm not "gonna catch a charge or lose my job for you" cool.
We have flexi pens.
These type of incidents happen usually when experienced line staff have a selfish culture and give very little help or assistance to incoming new officers, supervisors neglect their duty to mentor and train, and administrators under-staff their facilities.
Spot on. Very well said.
I'm a nurse and I just stick to the task at hand. If I didnt do anything out of protical, then I'm good.
Well said
when new staff (or seasoned staff sometimes) get defensive that's a huge red flag
I agree
Look folks, I've done Corrections for federal and state. Most officers aren't dumb enough to fall for these games inmates play. We already get a bad wrap in the media so I hope the host of this video finds a way to explain these things while also not leaving room for the public to think "wow, what kind of stupid people are we hiring as officers"?.
KevinPris COV actually..you miss the whole point of the video. First off, everyone is vulnerable. Knowing that you are vulnerable keeps the shield up. This video is to make sure we know how the game is played and why it works. It has nothing to do with us being less than what we are. I am on the job myself and believe greatly in this profession and what we do. This is an informative video meant to educate. No different then what you would get from the academy or books that relate to the same topic. Education is key. Don’t run from learning. Embrace it
KevinPris COV btw I have fifteen years in and began my career as an officer, move my way up the ranks and now I am on the administrative end. I also sit the board on the NJ American correctional association. So I have a great perspective on this field and share what I have learned. I have been on every network promoting the field of corrections and speak at major correctional events. Let’s learn from each other and never shut down a venue that offers advice or education to others who seek it.
Also, watch more than one video so your question gets answered.
Tier Talk UA-cam Channel . Not intending to dismiss the video...there are those few officers who fall for the inmates' games. However, on the aggregate, most officers don't fall for the bs. Great advice for newbies and a few vets. But looking at the profession as a whole, I see us being disrespected alot. So, I'm not missing the point of the video... just wanna put it out there that officers aren't as they are portrayed in movies and other media. We've been poo-pood on far too long. Public opinion is being shaped by misinformation...(not referring to this video). If I were a civillian who hasn't seen the inside, and I saw this video, I'd incorrectly think that officers were gullible and therefore fit that into the stereotype that's been hammered on by mainstream media, etc. My comment is merely to inform civilians that most officers aren't badly trained and are very aware of the games inmates play.
It also shows that we are human and it can happen. I have seen good officer go down because inmates find away to manipulate a situation to their advantage. You are focusing a lot on the individual and no focus is being put on situations that can arise either by inmates or us. My class on manipulation focuses on situational factors that can aid an inmate in their game of manipulation. Everyday we are playing chess.
thats why I use to write inmates up all the time an they got served
It starts with the little thing and the inmates need to know that you are not playing that game
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A friend of mine had his house torched because he wrote a lifer up for some bs that no other co would. Dude even admitted it and told him to call home.
Wow....
@@southjerseysound7340 what was the outcome and who provided the inmate with his home address. That sounds like a personnel issue. Dude needs an immediate relocation and no outside communication.
As a matter fact… you look just like Daniel Cormier! It’s almost shocking! You must come from French descent. This is not an insult. Just saying.
Caleb Ramirez I have gotten that before. Lol
You are assuming that the deputy will be supported by his staff. Try being a deputy without taking any bribes and see how that works out.
Why the fuck is there only one staff
Cognitive dissonance. I just read a book on it lol
Why does it take so long to be hired on as a C.O.?
malik malik there needs to be a proper screening process that checks ones background and ones physical abilities. We need to see if the person is also mentally stable. There is a lot to check
Anthony? In my situation other employees did not like me the only ppl who did were my residents. So there’s that too. Co workers not banning together due to jealousy so you feel alone
It is very divisive. And in this world, we need to be United.
I should of just been a professional inmate for free for life..lol Sheenamarie
Great video
jeffrey thompson thank you