I'm not a Detention Officer anymore, but I still reccomend these videos to anybody considering law enforcement or corrections as a career. Incredibly informative and helpful from experienced officers.
@J M there's no such thing as enough training. Learn to use your verbal judo because that's gonna get you through more situations than physically fighting someone, but also seek training on defensive tactics outside of your department. They will not train you very well or very often compared to private training. Really make an effort to study relevant statutes as well as department policies so you can make informed decisions on the many situations you'll find yourself in, and just something that I used to do is work on my physical presentation in the mirror. Even if your words are respectful, if your body language tells an inmate that you want to fight them, it'll be more difficult to talk them down. The opposite is also true, if you're giving firm commands but your body language tells the inmate you're intimidated, they'll be less likely to comply. They're always watching you, they're always studying you, so you have to be firm, fair, and consistent. I hope that helps a little bit, man!
Gang, thank you for this. Downing a Duck is a common manipulation tactic--and it happens outside of the law enforcement and corrections environment. I think that everyone who is in management--and that includes parents--should listen to this. Here is a 'Downing a Duck' situation from rental. The building in question is a high rise, urban apartment building. The building has a group of tenants who loiter, who are busybodies, really nasty gossipers. It turns out that several of these residents grew up with the building manager / were friends of the family. The building manager didn't 'manage by walking around', due to health problems and overwork. She relied on the gossipers for information. The favors started, small ones, like not charging a late payment fee when rent was a day late, not writing up parking lot infractions, etc.--the sort of leniency appropriate for an established tenant with a great overall track record and shouldn't be expected. Then one of the residents decided that she would garden in the common area of the building. The suitable area was about the size of a small plot in a community garden. Gardening is a fine activity, but it has to be open to all who want to engage in it, for it is in the common area. She took all the arable land for her garden A resident who hated the garden (because was overgrown, poorly planned and overgrown) complained to the building manager and got into trouble. The building manager made it clear that the gardener was 'special'. The complainer found out that the management company has a staffer who is responsible for resident activities and this person was not consulted. The complainer approached the building manager's manager. The building manager was formally reprimanded and had to do time 'on the porch'. Maintenance was instructed to tear up the garden. I know of a daycare where parents played 'Downing a Duck', from another social media site. A franchised daycare provider has a standard contract for care, that includes fines for late payment, too early drop-off and too late pick-up. Parents can arrange in advance for early drop-off and late pick-up. Both early drop-off and late pick-up are a problem for staff; during early drop-off is the time staff is setting up the classroom and late pick-up means that staff gets home late. The daycare facilities manager liked her Eight to Five with an hour off for lunch and lived in her office. When she did step out of the office, it was to show the daycare. When she walked through the classrooms, she didn't have enough time for employees to bring problems to her attention. The daycare hired a new head teacher for the classroom and some parents took advantage of it. There was little time for the new head teacher to get to know the other head teachers. Teachers really didn't want to stay late at work; that is, after the last child was picked up. In the early morning, the teachers were flat-out busy setting-up the classroom. Several parents took advantage of this. They objected loudly when the new head teacher tried to fine one for being ten minutes late and another for dropping off her child 15 minutes early. The parents successfully convinced the new head teacher not to fine them. The head teacher is responsible for collecting the weekly tuition, which is supposed to be paid on Friday for the next week. Another parent claimed 'I always pay on Monday, when I drop off my child...' The new head teacher didn't realize that the parent was manipulative. Over time, the parents' requests became more like demands and were ridiculous: one parent was 'early' when she picked up her child 30 minutes late; another parent always dropped off her child 20 minutes early, a third decided to pay her daycare bill on Tuesday for the current week, instead of on Friday.
This game is VERY dangerous.... I had one of my fellow officers get involved in it and the end game was the inmates getting his vest,( a brand new at the time) Zero-G lvl 2 with spike 3 . They also had him brining in dope and weed and had his home address, where his wife worked, kids daycare, everything.
I love the drawings, AG. I see there are two well-known books: "Games Prisoners Play" and "Games Criminals Play". Which should we grab? What is the difference between the two books?
I'm guessing the duck is an officer that doesn't get along with his co-workers and once the inmate spots that they pounce to become they friend figure out what that officer likes, mirror it (sports/Yu-Gi-Oh) then ask for some gum or to use a pen or a single staple
What are good examples of steps 1 and 2.... are we talking like extra shower or an extra phone call...I am very curious so I don't fall into this trap.
*Inmate places a food tray on my desk* "Hey CO! Can I borrow your pen to write down a number real quick?" They know they're only allowed to use those bendable non-lethal pens and to not touch or put things on our desk. I Ignored the request and told him to get his shit off my desk and get the fuck away from me. "CO, listen man, my cell gets extremely cold at night. Can I get an extra blanket please?" (only 1 blanket allowed) If you're not sure about something say "no." You can always ask your peers, and It's a lot easier to turn a no into a yes than it is to turn a yes into a no.
I'm not a Detention Officer anymore, but I still reccomend these videos to anybody considering law enforcement or corrections as a career. Incredibly informative and helpful from experienced officers.
Thank you for watching and supporting what I do. I really greatly appreciate it
@J M there's no such thing as enough training. Learn to use your verbal judo because that's gonna get you through more situations than physically fighting someone, but also seek training on defensive tactics outside of your department. They will not train you very well or very often compared to private training. Really make an effort to study relevant statutes as well as department policies so you can make informed decisions on the many situations you'll find yourself in, and just something that I used to do is work on my physical presentation in the mirror. Even if your words are respectful, if your body language tells an inmate that you want to fight them, it'll be more difficult to talk them down. The opposite is also true, if you're giving firm commands but your body language tells the inmate you're intimidated, they'll be less likely to comply. They're always watching you, they're always studying you, so you have to be firm, fair, and consistent. I hope that helps a little bit, man!
Gang, thank you for this. Downing a Duck is a common manipulation tactic--and it happens outside of the law enforcement and corrections environment. I think that everyone who is in management--and that includes parents--should listen to this.
Here is a 'Downing a Duck' situation from rental. The building in question is a high rise, urban apartment building. The building has a group of tenants who loiter, who are busybodies, really nasty gossipers. It turns out that several of these residents grew up with the building manager / were friends of the family. The building manager didn't 'manage by walking around', due to health problems and overwork. She relied on the gossipers for information. The favors started, small ones, like not charging a late payment fee when rent was a day late, not writing up parking lot infractions, etc.--the sort of leniency appropriate for an established tenant with a great overall track record and shouldn't be expected. Then one of the residents decided that she would garden in the common area of the building. The suitable area was about the size of a small plot in a community garden. Gardening is a fine activity, but it has to be open to all who want to engage in it, for it is in the common area. She took all the arable land for her garden A resident who hated the garden (because was overgrown, poorly planned and overgrown) complained to the building manager and got into trouble. The building manager made it clear that the gardener was 'special'. The complainer found out that the management company has a staffer who is responsible for resident activities and this person was not consulted. The complainer approached the building manager's manager. The building manager was formally reprimanded and had to do time 'on the porch'. Maintenance was instructed to tear up the garden.
I know of a daycare where parents played 'Downing a Duck', from another social media site. A franchised daycare provider has a standard contract for care, that includes fines for late payment, too early drop-off and too late pick-up. Parents can arrange in advance for early drop-off and late pick-up. Both early drop-off and late pick-up are a problem for staff; during early drop-off is the time staff is setting up the classroom and late pick-up means that staff gets home late. The daycare facilities manager liked her Eight to Five with an hour off for lunch and lived in her office. When she did step out of the office, it was to show the daycare. When she walked through the classrooms, she didn't have enough time for employees to bring problems to her attention. The daycare hired a new head teacher for the classroom and some parents took advantage of it. There was little time for the new head teacher to get to know the other head teachers. Teachers really didn't want to stay late at work; that is, after the last child was picked up. In the early morning, the teachers were flat-out busy setting-up the classroom. Several parents took advantage of this. They objected loudly when the new head teacher tried to fine one for being ten minutes late and another for dropping off her child 15 minutes early. The parents successfully convinced the new head teacher not to fine them. The head teacher is responsible for collecting the weekly tuition, which is supposed to be paid on Friday for the next week. Another parent claimed 'I always pay on Monday, when I drop off my child...' The new head teacher didn't realize that the parent was manipulative. Over time, the parents' requests became more like demands and were ridiculous: one parent was 'early' when she picked up her child 30 minutes late; another parent always dropped off her child 20 minutes early, a third decided to pay her daycare bill on Tuesday for the current week, instead of on Friday.
A lot of what we have learned behind the wall can easily be applied elsewhere. Manipulation is Manipulation
Anthony, Very informative and educational.
Thank you sir. This is one of my favorite videos.
This game is VERY dangerous.... I had one of my fellow officers get involved in it and the end game was the inmates getting his vest,( a brand new at the time) Zero-G lvl 2 with spike 3 . They also had him brining in dope and weed and had his home address, where his wife worked, kids daycare, everything.
Chesapeake Hammock and Outdoors wow! That is scary.
This is a good book
I love the drawings, AG. I see there are two well-known books: "Games Prisoners Play" and "Games Criminals Play". Which should we grab? What is the difference between the two books?
I only heard games criminals play. Good read if you get a chance. Also inmate manipulation decoded as well. Lol
@@TierTalk Excellent! I'll grab your recommendation first.
@@tadbubs thank you
I do appreciate this!!!
Thank you for watching this
Very interesting video topic Anothy
Thank you Deon
I'm guessing the duck is an officer that doesn't get along with his co-workers and once the inmate spots that they pounce to become they friend figure out what that officer likes, mirror it (sports/Yu-Gi-Oh) then ask for some gum or to use a pen or a single staple
I would say..you are totally accurate….100 percent.
There is a hard copy book available?
Miriam Havard yes. It’s on amazon
Vicki White brought me here.
Wow. Lol
How do inmates separate the target from their peers?
Have you seen these series of videos. ua-cam.com/play/PLiVMpa2AtiD_cRwSKH4_MktSSbggc2OYc.html&si=7Qd0-zbvwZ-nwJQX
Give example of what requests they may have
Here is a list to my course. ua-cam.com/play/PLiVMpa2AtiD_cRwSKH4_MktSSbggc2OYc.html
THIS HAPPENS DAILY IN LIFE OUTSIDE THE WALLS....
So true
What are good examples of steps 1 and 2.... are we talking like extra shower or an extra phone call...I am very curious so I don't fall into this trap.
It is usually something small and ambiguous. Something that opens up the door to bigger things. Remember, they are creating leverage ...
*Inmate places a food tray on my desk* "Hey CO! Can I borrow your pen to write down a number real quick?"
They know they're only allowed to use those bendable non-lethal pens and to not touch or put things on our desk.
I Ignored the request and told him to get his shit off my desk and get the fuck away from me.
"CO, listen man, my cell gets extremely cold at night. Can I get an extra blanket please?" (only 1 blanket allowed)
If you're not sure about something say "no." You can always ask your peers, and It's a lot easier to turn a no into a yes than it is to turn a yes into a no.