Washing Every Print on Demand Companies T-shirt! SHOCKING Results!!
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What broke my heart the most in this video is the fact you didn’t have an excel spreadsheet and a score for each brand.
that would have been a good idea
😜 that was my dry sense of humor kicking in, you’re doing amazing work brother. Keep it up.
Thats too difficult for him. Its about making shit content which gets you tons of views whilst providing the smallest amount of value/work.
What broke my heart is he didn't measure the t-shirts to see if they shrunk.
People always come in and learn something but complain about what they don't have lol.
CLOTHING AFTER A WASHING...RESULTS:
SPRING using AS color (expensive) good color & feel; 1st wash: faded and cracked; 2nd wash: worse; after 3rd wash/dry: terrible
TEEPUBLIC a bit scratchy, good color; 1st wash: colors faded and cracking; 2nd wash: failed; after 3rd wash/dry: not best, but not worst
*AMZ nice color, some bleed out the box; 1st wash: came out good; 2nd wash: good; after 3rd wash/dry: perfect
*MOTIF cheapest, colors ok; 1st wash: came out good; 2nd wash: "perfect" he said, but colors are lighter from getgo imo; after 3rd wash/dry: good
REDBUBBLE (most expensive) nice color; 1st wash: colors faded and cracking; 2nd wash: worse; after 3rd wash/dry: terrible
*PRINTFUL colors ok, good clear print; 1st wash: came out good; 2nd wash: "perfect" he said, but colors are light from getgo imo; after 3rd wash/dry: did very well
P.S. he mispoke at 18:03...I think he meant to say "passed" instead of "failed".
very detailed. thank you...
@@shimmymorris1 yvw ;) ty 4 all ur awesome and useful content
❤
@18:03 I think that he said it right.. "those all three failed" pointing towards the other t-shirts...
it is a bit unfortunate and unclear at first, but that's how I understood his comment...
those that hevsaid the names (printiful, amz and motif) passed, those other ones (rb, tp, spr) failed.. 🤔🙂
edit: regrading price - @16:11 it's been said that as color was THE most expensive (over £23)
However I was told by Printfy that the shirt's sweatshirt's etc. for best results you lay flat to dry or hang and if you use the dryer use tumble low heat only.
Fabulous Shimmy’s Consumer Reports. Quite an eye opener. Thank you. I’ve had customers go ballistic after washing a Redbubble t-shirt! Their bad quality is only matched by their outrageous prices and lack of customer or seller support.
thanks! glad you liked it. It really is shocking!
Really helpful thanks. I'm preparing to launch my print on demand. All got a bit confusing. But your tubes have given me a better sense of direction
woohoo so happy my videos have helped! Good luck!
It would be interesting to compare the printing qualities for the same companies also because they all work with local printers. And maybe the Redbubble Europe printer is different than Redbubble US printer or Australian printer? (maybe a video collab with POD UA-camrs in those countries can be a way to do it?)
that's interesting! I'll write this one down as that could be really helpful, so people knew where to sell to get the best quality results
Was just about to suggest the same - a test from different countries
@@shimmymorris1 Does it have a restrictions in what heat it can be washed? for example 30, 40. 60 probably not. We in Europe have 30, 40, 60.
that's what i'm wondering too. i am in germany. usually we have rather high quality standards. if i wash the product exactly as described and it drastically fades, i'm getting my money back for sure.
I can tell you from experience that redbubble in the US is garbage as well.
Thanks for your informative videos.. I watched on a video from printful on how to avoid colors fading where they recommend washing a tshirt inside-out, temp 30c, no fabric softener. To some degree your test is useful as it still shows which tshirt withstood the harshest conditions.
I've been wanting to do POD, but I've always had questions about which POD had the best/worst quality. Thanks for answering those questions!
you're welcome!
I don’t even wear graphics and you got me watching this whole thing, just with your charm and the test’s suspense. Cheers!
thank you!
Fantastic review part 1 & 2 Shimmy and Mrs Shimmy, keep em coming!
What a great video, I was looking forward to this one, thanks so much Shimmy!!!
thanks so much! glad you liked it
I always wash all my printed shirts inside out, as well as dry them inside out. Not sure if it makes a difference, but I have shirts that have lasted years and years.
I agree with this. I want to say some brands even suggest that they be washed inside out.
that definitely does make a difference but I don't think many people know to do that so i wanted to make it a fair test
@@shimmymorris1 That makes sense. Probably the average person just dumps everything in. It was a great video, and definitely a bit shocking with some of the results! Thanks again!
@@shimmymorris1 Maybe do a long double wash with 1 in 1 out of top ones that were good on first test to see?
@@AnthonyVickersSoulJahTYah i could but I don't think washing inside out would be a fair test as a lot of people don't do that and a company can't rely on the customer to do that
Thanks for the Tip. Hopefully in the next wash video, you would try Spreadshirt and Zazzle.
We’ll see. Maybe il do a much larger one but I only wanted to do the main companies
You should test washing them inside out because most care institutions will advise that so the print doesn’t get beat up as bad.
I do that, but I wanted to give them a proper test, and not everyone knows to wash them inside out
I'm sure they'll be the usual nonsense responses from the companies saying it's a one off or you've washed it wrong. Truth be told this is literally bottom of the barrel printing. I have t-shirts that have lasted me between 5 - 15 years and still have a design on, i have some heatpress, some screen printed and there all absolutely fine. If this happens on the 1st or 2nd wash then it's all over sadly. Shoddy cheap printing from multi million pound companies is pretty sad, they could fix this with just buying better ink.
yes 100%
Thank you for taking the time to do this. Great video. Quite interesting.
Glad you liked it!!
It's been 2 years, can you do another one of these video, and see how they have improved or are still bad?
Thanks, helpful! :)
You're welcome!
Thanks for this helpful video! A friend of mine bought a T-shirt from Redbubble and the paint came off after just one hand wash. The printing is also fuzzy and not sharp.
i've had that happen a few times now
Thank you for this video, I recently closed my spring shop because my samples started to crack & now I know where to go next to continue my business
you're welcome! sorry that happened to you, I hope your next supplier is better
What do u use now?
@@EviLz-Cach1xX I unfortunately haven’t gotten around to opening a new shop yet because of my job keeping me busy, but I’ll definitely let you know which one I choose when I get back into it!
@@ctelucas ok thanks no problem
Actually I meant to say, I ordered a few T-shirts for myself, my washing machine has a 30 minute eco cycle that I use all the time (except for linens and towels and unmentionables), and the white letters on black shirt started cracking after the 2nd wash! I was very disappointed. I’m going to look into other options now. And watch your videos 🥰
Thanks for all your help 👍🤗
what company did you use?
you're welcome! sorry that happened!
Which company did you use?
what company did u use?
Shimmy... do you feel me LOVING you right now for making this video??? I'm so grateful for you right now! Thank you!!!
so happy you liked it! Thanks soo much for the kind comment
Thanks so much for taking the time and effort to make these videos!
My pleasure!
Thanks for the informative review of the different shirts quality. It helps to choose a good print on demand company.
you're welcome!
Thank you so much for this video, It definitely saved me time and now I know that I am going with Printful and Amazon for my You Tube Merch. Well done. Lot's of love from the American Hillbilly and the Hillbilly Nation.
woohoo, so glad I could help! Thanks so much
WooooW, I really really loved it and shocked, that's a great video shimmy, thank u so much
My pleasure 😊was really surprised
Some people might reconsider getting into POD completely after this.
I know right!!! I was so shocked
I think you should do another test where each company prints on the same style/brand garment. That way the only variables you have are the different print methods, and companies. Then you will have a true test based on the print alone. Also you will get to see if any company has improved on their prints since your last test.
yes, I do want to do another test at some point in the future.
I have my own equipment and always did my wash tests by breaking ALL the rules and and drying on HIGH heat instead of delicate or low.
That’s really good! That’s how you ensure the best quality
I am about to watch this video so apologies if this is answered, but is a high heat wash generally better for DTG prints? Won’t some garments shrink?
Shimmy! Thanks for doing this dude! You've saved ALOT of people time, money, and having happy customers vs angry! Very cool.
Glad to help
UK London fan here hoping to launch my designs in Nov officially! ..Hi Shimmy could you do a quick vid follow up comparison costing of those same Tees you just washed i know you repeated the two that cost more but a cost profit markup would help us in our decisions too. great job u do bro . watching many of your back story vids awesome insight. Best wishes.
thanks!! Did you watch part 1, I went into a lot more detail into those things. Glad you're liking the videos!
@@shimmymorris1 AHH thx bro will do *
brilliant....very important...post purchasing experience and 'real' quality
Thanks so much!!
Redbubble used to be quite good. Something changed. Last t-shirt I bought couldn't handle one single wash before deteriorating. Haven't touched them since.
Very helpful! as I have been looking into quality between such companies....thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I designed a shirt for my husband and had it printed with printful. I'm a little disappointed because it's been a year the the print is unfortunately starting to fall apart. Meanwhile I have a concert shirt I bought about 15 years ago and still wear regularly that is in better shape. Can't help but wonder if print quality in general is just worse now or if I got unlucky.
that's shocking from printful! You should complain to them, hopefully they give you your money back or reprint it for free.
@@shimmymorris1is there a difference between POD quality printing and Bulk printing quality?
@@summerisherechannel8242 I think so. I came across RealThread and they only do orders based on bulk, but they have made shirts for well-known brands and I believe they make sure that there is quality to what they make.
Great video . . . thanks❗
would love to see an update to see if print quality has improved/changed
yes for sure! it's coming soon
The Redbubble results don't surprise me, at all. I've gotten 1 or 2 shirts from there... all cracked immediately.
yup! shocking quality
In fairness, the t-shirts were all washed the wrong way because if they were all turned inside out the print is protected, won't rub against the other t-shirts prints, and the arm pit and collar area needs to make contact with the washing detergent most to remove sweat marks. I think this test should be retaken.
I did what most people would do and that’s wash with the design on the outside. Not everyone knows to wash inside out so didn’t think that would be fair test
@@shimmymorris1 so it was more a test to see which brand has poor print quality over the others. Also keep in mind not everyone has a dryer. Perhaps mother nature could have given a different result.
Printful definitely does crack. Had a tee shirt for almost a year, only worn it 10-15 times. Cracking is definitely noticable
hmm, my longest standing t-shirt from them is a few years old now and it's still intact
Thanks loads for this, I was just about to send for a pile of T-shirts from different places to see exactly all this!
amazing!! so happy it helped
GREAT VIDEO!!! New subscriber from Australia 👋👋👋👋 I will usually buy a few sizes up to allow for any shrinkage as everything goes in the dryer. I want to wear my products as well and I want my customers to be happy with what they ordered as do I.
woohoo thanks for subbing! that's a smart idea... I guess if it doesn't shrink it's great quality but the plan has backfired
Thank you - has prompted me to research the print companies I use further.
Nice! Good luck
Printful and Printify has multiple printers to choose from, so what printers did you actually use?
I now use printify. I mainly sell a Gildan 64000 with swiftPOD
Appreciate this video Shimmy, mainly because I was using Printful & Printify :)
nice!! glad you have a decent quality product
Which company did you use on printify?
Wow! your videos are absolutely super helpful, thanks a million times.
thanks so much! I really appreciate that
Been waiting for this. thank you so much shimmy.
you're welcome! Hope you like it
You should make a video like this but with the other t shirt video and do a remastered version to see if they listened to the complaints
oooo great idea
Great video Shimmy, as usual. On another topic...for a new etsy seller starting a POD business, can you suggest a simple cost effective (or free) way to keep track of the books/finances? Currently using Printful but about to branch out to other suppliers too. Thanks so much.
Thanks!!! Honestly if you want a free way I would say use google sheets. I keep track of so much stuff with that
Aren't we suppose to wash them after turning them inside out?
yes, that is the ideal way to wash but a lot of people don't do that which is why i tested both ways
i wonder what would happen when you throw them in the dryer straight out of the packaging, prior to washing any new teeshirts. Putting them in the dryer "cures" the screenprints, i was told this by friends in that business previously.
that's interesting... Never heard of that
That’s the whole point, Print on Demand is not typically possible with screen printing, it’s Direct to Garment Printing, so the quality differs
Shocking!! Fantastic video, thanks 🙂🙂🙂
Glad you enjoyed it!
do you have a link to the pod for motif
are you looking for this link? www.moteefe.com
Super useful- thank you for doing this
Glad it was helpful!
What about Spreadshop?
They're on the list
An additional question I have is, "Why is the pattern in ware on the design so distinct?" It seems as though there is more deterioration in the test pattern towards the lower section of each shirt. While there is less deterioration in the upper areas, any idea as to why?
i put a particularly difficult design on the shirt to see if the companies could handle it. The design has different levels of opacity which is a hard thing to print, but some companies can do it successfully and that's what I wanted to find out
Where the design is lighter in opacity there's less ink used in the printing, so because these companies have done it badly it's the first area to wear off.
Unless you wash Redbubble classic tee on cold, the picture peels off. At 40 degrees, most of the picture will peel off. At 60 degrees, all of it will come off. I washed a new Redbubble T-shirt on 60 by mistake. It was completely ruined and as bad as an aliexpress tee.
ah no! such a shame... I found after a few washes even at cold it still didn't last long
I always washed printed shirts inside out and on delicate as instructed. Do they not have this in the washing instructions?
nope, they definitely don't
Yay for Printful!
Wooop wooop
Hi Shimmy hope you are well and thanks for the videos ! In your experience do bonfire night t shirts sell ? Was thinking of maybe doing one ...
potentially, I haven't sold any, It's a very small day but I would always recommend putting one up as you just never know
Nice video. I see many already covered the inside out washing, but how many people actually do that so good real world test. I do think most POD places say not to use fabric softener on their products. Again what would people do in the real world?
yes exactly. no one does that, so it was silly for me to do that as it wouldn't have been an accurate test.
This is awesome and helpful, thank you 😊
thanks so much! glad you liked it
Thank you for making this
My pleasure!
Please include markers for sections of your videos
I can't imagine started out on, for example, Etsy, have an amazing selling shirt right from the start, and WHAM !!!! you have customers asking for refunds because the amazing shirt that you were excited to sell hundreds of in your first few days, are a disaster after your customers washed the shirt. And after one time. Insane !
yes it's insane! that's why I like doing these tests so hopefully this doesn't happen.
@@shimmymorris1 Your videos are a valuable asset. I ordered a sample shirt using "words" on a shirt. The long of the short, unless it is "words" on a white shirt, people need to order a sample. I printed letters, a good size, of different colors and most had a cracked look, and the colors are off. Not true to color. Silk Screening has been and still is KING when it comes to printing on tshirts.
Woow thank you 👍🤗
You're welcome 😊
it would be helpful to see a spreadsheet with this info combined with the print quality before wash video,
Yes! I’m going to make an updated version of this video. Il include that
@@shimmymorris1 that would be awesome! I will watch for it.
Printful got good pricing? Bwahahah 😂
they used to, it's a shame that everyone is charging so much now
You have outdone yourself mate, we’ll done 🙌🏼
thank you so much!
Sorry, what's the name of the site? 'Moteev?' Can't seem to find it anywhere.
its moteefe
Also have to look at the vibrancy of colors, some were lighter, some you could see actual gradient
yup!
This video was badly needed. I want to try interest print too as they are one of the only ones with all over long sleeve collared shirts, and I can't find even a picture of one of their shirts on the web lol
you might have to get a sample, it's super annoying when you can't find this sort of stuff
Thanks for this. It was helpful
glad you liked it
So as a result of your tests, what would you recommend one should use as the best POD company to work with. I am shocked to see what happened to the Redbubble shirts and I have put in so much effort to make it work. I wouldn't want to expose my customer to such bad quality. Would washing the Tees cold make a difference?
The 3 best were Amazon, Moteefe and Printful. I was shocked by Redbubble too
If you are trying to create your own brand, I would probably go with Printful, as they alow custom branding for the shirt tags and packaging.
Always wash your clothes in Cold Water. Also, make sure you turn all New Shirts & Jeans inside out before you thrown them in the wash. #freegame
yup. I don't think cold is necessary, but inside out is a good idea
I was looking for this comment! When you research preserving DTG tees/garments, they explicitly say to machine wash cold, inside out and delicate cycle. I’ll be putting these instructions boldly on my branding as a “preserve the lifetime of your purchase” tip to avert customer frustration and reduce buyer’s remorse.
I started with Printful and was using them a lot, literally all the T-shirts that ARE NOT ALL OVER PRINT crack after drying. they hold up perfectly after every wash, but when you dry them hey fall apart. The all over T shirts r the best n Printful. but when it comes to hoodies and t shirts with normal print, the print never last.
How are you drying them? I stopped putting any of them in the dryer and now let them hang dry
I’m just starting out and designed a shirt to put on Redbubble. I then bought the Essential t-shirt to test the quality. Did not notice shrinkage, but after the second wash the print looked exactly like your Redbubble test. My design was cracking and peeling off! Not a happy camper, so now I’m on the lookout for a better POD company. I care about my customers and just as I am frustrated about the quality, I know they would be too.
Yes I wish these big companiesi cared about the customers as much as we do and only made quality products especially as they are charging such premium prices for their items!
@@shimmymorris1 Especially since I paid $28 which included shipping and taxes…for a tshirt that basically lasted ONE wash
@@staceyplummer2864 ye it's bonkers!!
Thanks for this man!!
you're welcome!
Amazing Thing you are doing Sir
So nice of you
How in the world could they not know that this will happen to their products after washing them? This is ridiculous, and these are supposed to be professional platforms for printing designs? I don't think so...SBN RESONATE
It’s crazy!
@@shimmymorris1Which type of print last long in washing I want to use best quality printing
Sad times, came for the second followup for printify and you did not do them.
Printify doesn't work the same, it works with many companies... so It wouldn't make sense as you can pick which fulfilment company you want to go with... there's tons to choose from
Thank you!💖
You’re welcome 😊
The washing/drying labels will be sewn into the seams of these blank T-shirts before any printing. The T-shirts manufacturer may not know what their buyer (the POD co) is using to print. I would write on my POD page that I would advise buyers to wash on 30° and to not tumble dry, just to be on the safe side. I’d imagine these POD companies test this out themselves, but see the peeling off designs here for example, it looks like they don’t.
ye they should warn people to wash inside out and at 30 for sure!
Why wash without turning inside out? Faster results?
fairer results. everyone washes differently. I wanted to cover all the basis
This video helped a lot
thank you so much
What about Printify? I heard that the quality of their print provider Monster Digital is excellent.
Monster digital is excellent. I've had t-shirts from them for years and years
@@shimmymorris1 So would you say Printful and Printify (with Monster Digital) are more or less the same quality?
@@toptennismerch I think monster has been even better than printful tbh
@@shimmymorris1 Perhaps we could limit ourselves to selling stickers on RB. What about mugs? I've had mugs where the printing peels off after a few weeks. Could you do a test comparing mug print quality between POD companies? I guess that's harder than a t-shirt test.
@@toptennismerch for sure! that's a great idea. I guess I could run them under hot water for a while and see how they do...
Can someone give me the link to that cheap print on demand.. motif? I'm having trouble finding it..
This is helpful thanks. I’d be curious about a deeper dive investigating why there’s such a difference. Is it the printing method or the ink used? There’s a clear difference in these results so the companies are clearly making different choices. An Inkthreadable sweatshirt I ordered was really bad after a couple of washes, which made us sad as their eco credentials were so good otherwise. Are the eco inks not sticking as well? But having clothes which last has to be seen as an important eco factor surely?
I'm not sure what they're all doing differently. It could be minor things but without visiting the factories and watching the process I wouldn't know. I have found the eco products are any worse, it's more a company issue
With Printful should I choose: dtg printing or embroidery?
it depends on the style you're going for. For normal print on demand go for DTG. For luxury appeal go for embroidery... i have a video coming out about embroidery soon
Errm shouldn't you have turned them inside out first?
On a side note, I am amazed at the number of people who say "anyways" (such as in this video). I don't know if it's spreading from person to person around the world, or I just hear it more because I'm watching and reading so much online content compared to 5-10 years ago. I just don't like that ssss on the end, LOL. Anyway, back to the scheduled program. 😂
hahaha I do say that a lot!!
(5:00) - Is that eggnog you're putting in the washing machine?
Haha no no
Do you think that if I upload rapper designs to spring, they will let me upload those designs and sell them?
Rapper? As in if they’re infringing one someone then no. I don’t think you should
@@shimmymorris1 I have a page on Instagram with a lot of followers about rap and I thought I could sell shirts there too, so I can not design rapper designs?
@@arielsofa7641 Each rapper singer (or whatever person) does have rights over their brand, their artistic production and even over their name and public image (ie, even a photo of their face, even if taken by you!). If you would get a special (written and signed) deal/contract with them, giving you rights to earn money using their image, products image, name or personal image, and specifying details like where can you publish, how many copies, etc.... then yep. But it is not the case, it seems. And for any artist/company is super easy to put down any product using their logo/artist photo/brand/name, etc. I mean, is forbidden even if you wouldn't monetize it in any way. It's just that for fans/fan pages when there's no income, most often the brands and companies don't take action, but once one starts selling t-shirts or other merchandise using _anything_ of them, that gets put down. Often is not even by them, but a company who own their image rights or etc.
Thanks for the videos! I loved both parts. I wish you had included Spreadshop in these videos as it's one of the companies that can get a UA-cam merch shelf along with Teespring. Would it be possible to do quality + wash tests for a Spreadshop t-shirt?
Also, you showed a t-shirt with a DTF (Direct-To-Film) print which is much different from DTG (Direct-To-Garment) which involves printing ink directly onto the shirt. Would it be possible for you to review a DTG printed t-shirt as well?
Either way, thanks so much for these videos. I was thinking about Teespring but I'll for sure avoid them thanks to your videos. Spreadshop looks to be my only option as someone who wants a YT merch shelf.
yes good idea, I'll add it to my list of videos to make
Are you washing in cold or hot water?
i test a mix, but mainly cold
Plz more of this
awesome
Tee Public's t-shirts have the "distressed look". 😆
haha
Great video, i have Moteefe for a long time i consider it one of the best if not the best
I think it's pretty good too!
Shimmy, I LOVE your videos 🥰🥰🥰
But for the sake of our environment, you might want to ditch fabric softener 😉 If you have hard water, white vinegar in main cycle will solve it. And if you want nice smell, try cheap essential oils or other fragrances. Even a few drops of eau de cologne or perfume work a treat 😉❤️
Great tip!
What about teelLaunch
never tried it
I wash everything at least 40C and then I tumble dry after to get rid of pet hair. So an easy wash gentle and 30C would not do it for me.
cool
Could it be that the lower opacity in the lower part of the design just screwed with the printing machines and isn't really a good indication of how a 100% opacity design would hold up?
hmm, it could but that was part of the test. Because some companies performed perfectly. I wanted to test every element of a design and a lot of people use lower opacity
@@shimmymorris1 This just shows that designs aren't meant to have transparent elements. Some of these shirts had the transparent elements flaking off but the 100% colors still look great. Would be worth redoing the test