*TROPIC THUNDER* was too much for me...
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The fake ads from the beginning played in the theater, mixed in with the real trailers, with zero warning. It was one of the greatest things I've ever seen in the theater.
Hahaha everyone was so confused including me and my brother for a second or two. So much fun to see this movie in theater.
NGL, I think it would have been so funny if they took it one step further and actually made those fake movies into real ones.
I worked at a theatre at the time and people came out to complain that there were too many trailers.
Yes I loved it
I remember my wife and I having these WTF looks on our faces during the trailers in the theater. It dawned on her first and I took my cue from her when she started cracking up
The fact that RDJ was in character throughout the DVD commentary for this movie filled me with so much joy!
He really did stay in character all the way 🤣
I need that dvd commentary
I dont drop character until I do the DVD commentary!
The DVD commentary is hilarious for two reasons:
- RDJ remaining in character for the whole thing.
- Jack Black randomly eating during the commentary.
I don’t even watch the movie anymore I just listen to the dvd commentary
I’m a black man, and I can honestly tell you: RDJ as a black man was the funniest thing I’ve ever seen! It wasn’t offensive, Over the top or anything at all. It was hilarious!!!! When I watch iron man and he yells, all I hear is this character.
That's why it's so weird to me that she gets slightly offended...? In my experience, people who get offended by black jokes that aren't offensive, don't have many black friends or aren't cultured.
@@reillykemp4374 That's the hip thing to do these days. To be offended. Specially if it's about race.
Exactly bro.... You can do anything in comedy as long as it's FUNNY.
i cringe every time she exagerates her reaction to the black face. fucking pathetic. gotta let everyone it wasnt her idea...... yeah no shit, its a fucking movie.
@@reillykemp4374 I never got the impression that she was offended. I only got the impression that she was uncomfortable. Which can be understandable. She isn't just watching this on her own, she has to always think about what her audience of the public will think of her if she laughs or likes certain jokes. Totally understand her hesitation to laugh at RDJ in blackface. To her its, "What if everyone hates me for liking this?". One wrong laugh or word to something and she loses something she enjoys perhaps. I honestly don't think it has anything to do with being "offended"... Just scared/uncomfortable... and being uncomfortable around certain types of jokes is fine.
Fun fact: when RDJ says “I don’t drop character till I’ve done the dvd commentary” he wasn’t kidding lol. In the movies actually DVD commentary doesn’t drop character while jack black and Ben stiller are laughing there asses off the whole time and trying to play along. This movie is gold in so many ways lmao
I think even a few people missed the humor and connection in that when they watched the commentary.
What makes it even funnier: as his character deconstructs from Lazarus back to who he really is, RDJ reverts along with him. You don't actually hear the 'real RDJ' until the closing credits...
"Elementary my dear watson...that shit is...elementary"
One the most hilarious commentaries ever!! 😂
She admits that she only really knows RDJ from Marvel so the Sherlock Holmes movies would be suggested viewing for her.
I love how this was Robert Downey Jr's second Academy Award Nomination in his career. He played the hell out of a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude.
Ben stiller is a dude that doesn’t know what kinda dude he is
@@mohammedashian8094 Because he's not a dude, at all. He's a rooster illusion
@@damyr55 I think it’s *rooster illusion*
And lost to a clown from Gotham that year
Hes a dude playing a dude playing another dude disguised as another dude.
Natalie, I'm black and I loved RDJ's character. I also don't know any black people who dislike his portrayal in this movie. His lines from the theme song of "The Jefferson's", being a dude disguised as another dude, and "you people" is often quoted by black people that watched the movie. In other words, he played the character well and it was received by the black community for what it is, a joke in good taste.
It's so weird always seeing white people try to take offense on the behalf of others.
Identity Politics has made white people think they have to act offended on behalf of other races or they're racist for laughing at a joke...It's so annoying. College kids get this hamfisted into their brains and don't know how to think for themselves anymore
Ive heard alot of black people say they dont find it offense bc RDJ wasnt doing the black face to mock or make fun of black people. He was doing it to make fun of method actors and the unnecessary extremes they go to for their roles
@@MrAirZone25 And also make a commentary on hollywoods past of using white actors in black/brown/yellow face to portray other cultures in a highly racist manner. The only ones I have heard complaining about RDJ in this movie are ones that haven't seen it.
I guess what makes it funny is that the butt of the joke are white liberal actors who do dumb things "in the name of art". That he was so divorced from reality that he thought he could get away with it. xD
Tom Cruise and Robert Downey Jr. took this movie to the next level. Some of the best performances of their careers.
You really can't help but admire both of their absolute and utter commitment to roles. And both are far funnier than you'd ever expect.
@@mycroft16 Only time Cruise has ever been funny or even acted good imo.
@@realrealityeast6278 Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man!
@The Cracked Lenses Na, still think he's generic scifi man.
@@realrealityeast6278 so you never seen any of Tom Cruise movies???
"I'm a dude, playing as a dude, disguise as another dude" is still my favorite line.
This was Robert Downey Jr. At its finest 🤣
it was also literally what he was doing in the film. 🤣
@@MizuMing exactly. I feel like this was a once of a lifetime opportunity to make this movie. It took a joke that could easily be offensive but planned it smart enough that people understand the joke. Of course not alot will like it but probably won't be offended about it.
@@A-TOP-11 Agreed
One of the better quotes. My favorite still would be "You never go full retard" which I tend to use at work too
@@A-TOP-11 - Well, it was done back when the film industry was still mentally stable and healthy enough to poke fun at itself. These days they've all become so self absorbed and woke that they can't enjoy humor without freaking out.
"Man, have the times changed." No. This was totally CRAZY even back then. RDJ's mom BEGGED him not to do it and said it was going to ruin his career. It did the opposite lol.
Yeah times haven't changed that much lol. The movie's just making fun of ridiculous things in the movie business -- most of which are still there today.
@@vanyadolly they still pick white guys to play Egyptians like the country isn't in Africa lol.
@@curtism-w6b you do know if you called egyptians african, they would be offended... right? they dont consider themselves african regardless of geographical location. same goes with morocco.
@@Shiirow both are in Africa, both are Africans. And I've been to both countries and have never heard that bull you're talking about. How many times have you been there?
@@Shiirow quiet now. 🤔
They sold it to us on Stiller, Black and Downey Jr., but the movie does not work without Alpa Chino and Kevin. You need two sane people to process the madness, and you DEFINITELY need someone who can call Kirk out or the joke doesn’t work.
Never go full r*****...
Exactly. This is one of my favorite comedies.
Exactly! Technically what Downey is doing is not blackface, because the point of blackface was to ridicule black people, that's not what is going on in this film and the fact that a black man in the film calls the Downey character out on it should have made it clear to people. This is a subversion of Bf if anything. Like I said, a lot of people miss the entire satirical aspect of the film and that some actors take the "method" too far.
They just made every character in the movie Ben Stiller. No Bueno.
@@NelsonStJames no its black face. It's satirical pushing the boundaries on acceptability but just because it's not ridiculing the black community doesn't mean it's not black face.
It was done in a way that properly got the joke across without being offensive
Reactions like this is why real comedies don't get made anymore.
Not seeing the greatness of RDJ's character is one of the saddest things I've ever seen in my life.
The social engineering is pathetically sad, look how brainwashed she's become.
@@shanephillips4011 are you okay
How does she not know what satire is? Why is she cringing?
@@mss11235 Because she's offended by something that isn't meant to be offensive.
She did the same reacting to Django. But Arianna/Diegesis, a black lady had a brilliant time reacting to TT. I enjoy most of Natalie's videos but don't crowbar in the ' I'm offend for other people ' Cheer's 🇬🇧
Natalie: I don't wanna watch any gruesome R Rated stuff, I should watch a comedy.
Also Natalie: Let's watch Tropic Thunder
The game was rigged from the start
Don't expect logic/intelligence from her! 🤔👎👎👎
@@mikelarsen5836 exactly
Well...Natalie didn't say anything about a gruesome comedy, so...
This is one of the greatest comedies ever made! People that feel blackface or the simple Jack angle is insensitive, don’t understand that the joke is on Hollywood. From actors, to agents and the whole industry. From the opening trailers to ending at the award show, it’s genius satire, pointing the finger at themselves.
You should watch Anchorman if you haven’t. Another great comedy that’s one of the most quoted.
I second this statement. This movie, if anything, is a direct satire of the Hollywood standards of that time and was not intended to demean minorities or downplay the importance of cultural diversity.
The "Simple Jack" thing is also a bit like Kate Winslett as "Kate Winslett" in Ricky Gervais' Extras, noting that you can always win an Oscar for playing "a mental".
@@simongiles9749 yeah, that’s the whole point of the don’t ever go full retards scene. Tom Hanks had played Forrest Gump and won an Oscar, I forget who also did it, but they played gifted handicap people. During that time Sean Penn did a movie called I Am Sam where he played mentally challenge, but he played it too on the nose and didn’t win the Oscar. That’s where the joke came from that they tell him for Simple Jack he went too full retard. Making fun of Sean Penn & the Oscars, actors know what roles can get them an award, they have it down to a formula, not the actual handicap.
I wouldn't go that far. Definitely not one of the greatest comedies ever. It is hilarious though and very rewatchable.
Why people need to stretch so far to justify this to themselves is annoying, you don't need to go deep to for this to be funny.
She reacted to this as if her career was on the line 😂
How does she not know what satire is? Why is she cringing?
UA-cam needs an emphasize button.
@@mss11235 Probably part of the woke mob. They have no sense of humor.
She was trying so hard it was like CNN trying to convince us that Biden is smart as hell.
I feel bad for her.
This and Blazing Saddles are the pinnacle of satire comedy.
I was in Iraq when this came out and we nabbed a bootleg copy to watch as a Platoon. Was one of my best memories with the guys.
I always add Josie and the Pussycats to my "sarcastic movies that poke an industry in the eye" list with Tropic Thunder. Josie mocks pop culture, celebrity worship and the music business all at the same time.
Blazing Saddles, Tropic Thunder and JoJo Rabbit should all be on the same shelf, waiting for the in-laws to visit.
This is so wholesome
Ah, the good old days of Hajj Copy. I miss watching a movie in 13i with wonky auto focus and people walking in front of the camera every ten minutes.
Where were you? I was there when this came out also. We saw it in Balad while waiting to fly out to Kuwait at the end of tour.
Robert Downey Jr was nominated for Best Supporting Actor for his role in the movie.
Dude should've won that Oscar 😤
@@TheGentleCreepers instead of Tom Cruise ?
@@magnusmagnusson8302 Tom Cruise wasn't nominated that year lol Heath Ledger won
@@jasontodd6822 i know i meant from this movie i would have picked Tom instead of Robert,, i know obviously that it did not really matter Heath was always going to win it:)
RDJ at his best. * shame Natalie didn’t get it*
She's never been offended on so many others behalf at the same time. 😂
“Im a dude, playing a dude, disguised as another dude” is not only the best line in the movie but also exactly why RDJ doesn’t get hate for this role. He’s a white guy playing a white guy playing a black guy.
Wtf do you mean lol he gets MASSIVE hate for this
@@Hey_Jamie Lol from who? No one who matters. Everyone else understands the role he plays and that its in no way intended as offensive.
@@Hey_Jamie His character was lampooning the fact that white actors get every good role in big Hollywood films. I've never heard anyone say they didn't LOVE his work in this movie. He was nominated for an Oscar for this role. Being nominated for an Oscar for a comedy is almost unheard of.
@@ablasttv Like two years ago when the woke movement started going bonkers the twitterverse tried to cancel RDJ under the guise that all blackface is offensive regardless of intent. The campaign got pretty big for a couple of weeks before it died out. The reason it died out is because A) you can't deny how funny the movie is, funny trumps offensiveness and B) the movement was spearheaded by white people being offended for black people but the majority of black people didn't care because of point A.
@@UpTheDown7 Yea no.. I'm full "woke" and this was never a thing. If you picked out 3 twitter users who were mad and built a movement around that thats on you, thats not real. Like I said no one who matters cared.
One of the funniest movies made. My favorite line is “I don’t read script, script reads me.”
I also didn’t know that was Tom Cruse until the end credits.
RDJ also was nominated for an Academy award for best supporting actor.
Same here, this film gave me a completely new appreciation for Cruise's acting ability, because I didn't know it was him either.
I'm dyslexic, autistic, black and Hispanic. Today I learned white people being offended for me somehow still feels even more offensive. I would rather enjoy that movie a 100 times.
I guess because far too often feelings are far from action.
At the very least she kept it to herself and didn't give us some speech at the end it's almost like she was scared to laugh but also scared to pander
As a white person (that doesn't get offended on behalf of others), I understand your point. The modern day offended white saviour stance feels like shallow and patronising virtue signalling more than anything else.
The only reason this works is that it's satire. It's literally showing you why this stuff is offensive.
I totally agree with you!!! I loved this movie and totally got the humor and what they are making fun of. I laughed out loud at the theater and still today as I watch it again. RDJ’s character is the offensive guy, the method actor that takes it too far, not RDJ himself. Actually he plays this character brilliantly. People getting offended by this does nothing or to decrease discrimination. They just don’t get the actual point of the movie or of comedy. You can laugh, it’s ok! 😅
This is what happens when you go too far left. You become poisoned and everything is about being offended and feeling virtuous about it.
Ben Stiller's magnum opus work. This still holds up and I think will for decades to come.
Big hype on _Severance_ season 2 though. Totally different but still great. Guy's a good director.
Just like Blazing Saddles, which is another satirical film that people put in the category of "movies that could never be made today", even though the things both films satirize are still things that could easily be satirized today. It's almost like people so feel the need to be preachy, that they're willing to throw out the best tool in media for getting a message across and still having people watch the vehicle that message is being given in.
Between this and Walter Mitty, two extremely different films, Ben Stiller has ungodly levels of talent directing, acting, producing, just everything.
This might technically be an "action comedy", but really what makes it so enduring with people is that it's basically a satire of the whole Hollywood culture. From the sleazy producer who doesn't care if people die during the shoot, to the pretentious method actor who goes into blackface for a part (as opposed to using the *actual* black guy in the cast).
Quotable as hell, too.
The jokes in RDJ's character, alone, have more layers than an onion. It could be one of the most deeply meta characters in a movie, ever. Love it.
"stop tailgaiting me, pasty teabag", not sure if a shot at him for being white, or being british, but its a funnily weird insult.
This movie is genius. It’s not offensive because it’s specifically commenting on that stuff from real life Hollywood. It’s brilliant.
_"Is he just watching a movie in his iPod?"_ That's no movie! That's the classic and endlessly referenced James T. Kirk / Gorn fight from _Arena,_ the 18th episode of the first season of _Star Trek_ (the original series), written by Gene L. Coon (based on a 1944 short story of the same name by Fredric Brown), first broadcast on January 19, 1967!
OMG, dude.
Are you sure? You don't sound certain. 🤭
Also some of us really did watch a few full movies on our iPods
I recognized it but couldn't site the specifics. Good work!!
I had the same reaction! How can you not know about Kirk and the Gorn XD
When Stiller picks up the director's head and says "blood-flavored corn syrup. Oldest trick in the book" I lose it every time. Such a great subtle joke in a movie that's full of them.
Not long after this movie came out and people were smoking that pretend weed "K2", which was just like chemical potpourri. I smoked some with the homies and they put this movie on and it had me tripping out and that scene in particular had me losing it. Laughing and terror lol
It’s perfectly ok for you to watch and enjoy RDJ in blackface. The whole movie is a commentary on Hollywood’s eccentricities, excesses and hubris. He has been nearly universally acclaimed by every African-American I know in New Orleans as doing the impossible: pulling it off without offense and being genuinely funny. This is a satiric masterpiece that I have watched several times per year. I still laugh at it all!
Yeah, he's not doing it to mock black people like Justin Trudeau.
How does she not know what satire is? Why is she cringing?
It’s one of the best
People just gloss over the fact every other character tells him he shouldn't do blackface.
Californians lost their sense of humour
I was 18 when I watched this in the theater. As a black man, seeing Iron Man in blackface but with hilarious context was the best thing ever. Dude deserved getting a Best Supporting Actor nomination at the Oscar's for this role 😆
@@chrislancaster I know.... I wasn't offended I just said it was funny
People forget that context is important, just because someone paints their face black doesn't make it "blackface", blackface is historically a very derogatory action against black people, this was an upbeat comedy and he was pretending to play a black role, it's a completely different thing that most people just don't get, also RDJ has stated he couldn't make this movie today for this very reason, the comedic immunity clause is vaporizing rapidly and you have the school systems and society to thank for it, too bad, Sanford and Son is some racist ass $H!T but I still watch it today because it's damn funny
@@tru3sk1ll Don't blame the school systems. I went to public school and none of that is true, LOL. Every fucking generation says "oh today's kids!". *Old man yells at clouds*. Seriously, it's tired and old.
@@magamiako1 It all depends on the school you go to. Some blatantly teach woke garbage, others have to be forced to teach evolution rather than bible stories, and some are okay in the middle. The things taught to students can be different even in the same subject and school depending on which teacher you happen to get. Don't confuse your own limited experience with school systems as representative of the system as a whole. All that would do is show just how poorly your schools actually educated you.
@@tru3sk1ll its not context. white people just get hyper offended about everything these days. and 99% of the time, it doesnt have shit to do with them. thats all it is. case and point - this reaction.
This is one of the best comedy movies out there and Robert Downey Jr's character is the best part of this movie they were making fun of method actors and that's the whole point of it it's hilarious
Even funnier because Tom Cruise is a method actor himself
@@iamworthy1302 Tom Cruise is *not* a method actor.
@@Cosmo-Kramer yes he is,even for tropic thunder he studied and went to hip hop classes. He hasn't had a series role in a while but for thing like last samurai he indulges heavily in the roles.
@@iamworthy1302 That's called acting. He's not a method actor. Doing one's own stunts or dance scenes does not make one a method actor. He's "Tom Cruise" in almost every role he's played in his career.
@@Cosmo-Kramer spoken like someone who doesn't know his career.
It’s sad to see someone not know how to feel because of social pressure. It’s a movie. If visual images are the biggest issues a person has then they are lucky.
A few suggestions. "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" for more comedy RDJ. Also Stiller's "The Secret Life of Walter Mitty" is a hidden gem. It's definitely a movie, that stays with you.
I love that movie.
@@jeffrogers2180 Second or third vote for Secret Life of Walter Mitty.
Secret Life is fantastic.
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is probably the funniest I've ever seen of RDJ. I think the "Native American Joe Pesci" and other faux celebrity call-outs is the thing that slays me the most.
Yes to both 🙌🏻
"I don't read the script, the script reads me." 🤣
Another fun thing about this movie is the we have an actor with dark hair and brown eyes playing a character with blond hair and blue eyes, who is playing a character in black face, who then in turn does yellow face while trying to rescue Stiller's character. Such a brilliant and original concept and execution.
I love the commentary on the Blu Ray. Robert Downey Jr really does stay in character for most of it. Brilliant!
He’s in character until the credits and then he’s in character as the Aussie and then he’s finally Robert. It’s amazing.
There's some interviews out there about how Tom Cruise got involved in this. During his sit down with Ben Stiller he said he'd do it, but "I need to have fat hands, and I need to dance. I don't know how to play this character otherwise."
Dude's crazy, but he's a legend
Yeah, 10 shades of mental in his private life, one of the best actors of our time.
When you want to roll on the floor laughing but are too worried to be cancelled.
It's funny to me how some white people have an issue with the black face while all the black people I've seen react to this movie have no problem and they think it's hilarious. Robert Downey Jr. seems to have pulled off the impossible.
Because white sjw type people think they need to treat other races like morons that can't make their own decisions and get offended on their behalf.
The white people that have a problem with it do not REALLY have a problem with it. They're just trying to get the "I'm a good person" social currency.
@@titusorelius9458 I thought the same thing. lol
It's that white guilt
I'd assume it's mostly virtue signaling from whites who feel the need to cleanse their "guilt." A lot of the rest can be chalked up to people who've been told certain things are wrong, always, under any circumstances wrong, but never took the time to figure out just WHY it's wrong.
I laughed so hard at how uncomfortable Simple Jack was making her 🤣🤣🤣
Tropic Thunder is the pinnacle of the 2000s golden age of comedies.
I can't listen to the song "Low" without thinking of Tom Cruise ever since this movie. How the hell Mathew McConaughey made it through that scene with a straight face, I don't know.
"Welcome to the goody room"
My favorite scene, and Cruise's Yes Man in the background is hilarious.
I never seen someone cringe at Robert Downey’s character the whole movie. It’s okay to like it. I promise, you won’t get cancelled.
Also ok to not like it too🤷♂️
@@scottsexton8550 something has to be mentally wrong for you not to like it
When you know it is funny and want to laugh...but you don't want to get canceled.
One of the best comedies of all time. I still think this is RDJ’s best piece of work. He should’ve won the Oscar that year imo.
This & Less Than Zero.
He played the role of drugged out, self-destructive fuckup to a ‘T.’ As a longtime, drugged out, self-destructive fuckup, I should know, lol..
think again he lost to heath ledger's joker
@@GRR1MN1R Yeah I’m well aware of that. I still think he should’ve won. That’s why I said “imo”
Yeah RDJ at his best. *Shame Natalie didn’t get it*
@@mynameisnotearl4383 she’s young.
The RDJ blackface is actually okay amongst the community because he’s portraying how real actors think they can do every role and how Hollywood will cast a character to play a role not native to them when they could’ve just got an actor who actually fit the role. This movie is an attack on Hollywood culture.
Edit: You have the best movie reaction channel on YT Nat 💯 Keep grinding girl 🍿‼️
Word.
Facts
Exactly, he’s making fun of white actors that think it’s okay to do this.
Plus the movie makes it clear that this is a bad thing
Even if that wasn’t true who cares? People need to get the fuck over themselves
Well this satire went clear over your head. Such a shame.
Flew over her head like a G5.
If anyone hasn't seen it, I highly recommend you check out Jamie Fox's interviews where he discusses RDJ's blackface in Tropic Thunder. He really cuts thru a lot of the bullshit over the blacklash
EDIT: Okay, since _some_ of you apparently decided to not lookup the interview I was referring to before posting a stupid comment, allow me to clarify
Yes, RDJ did get some backlash over the blackface, and yes, it was from the most vocal members of a group pretending it represented the entire group.
However it was enough that he was hesitant when Jamie Fox asked him to play a Hispanic character in a comedy skit he was doing, before Jamie reassured him that nearly all of the black community loved him and his character in Tropic Thunder.
The blacklash 😭
I don't remember hearing about the backlash. Maybe it was, but not enough to hear about it. I thought he was funny as hell.
People like you are so easily duped. 45 offended 20 year olds online isn't a backlash.
@@SallyMankus130 It's definitely more than 45
@@SallyMankus130 "_People_ _like_ _you_ _are_ _so_ _easily_ _duped_"
Man you are really just scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to find ways to feel superior to someone else aren't you?
"Shut up, dude"
Nah, he's one of the reasons this movie is so funny lmao.
Yes thats the worst when White people act offended for black people.
I keep seeing young reactors having issues with the optics of certain jokes. So much so that it appears to prevent them from fully enjoying the humor.
I saw this type of reaction with a reaction channel watching the _Legend of Korra._ The character of _Varrick_ can be so funny. But these reactors can't get past the fact that he's also kind of a terrible human being. That's one of the things that makes him so funny.
They either find something so problematic that the joke loses its flavor. Or perhaps they don't feel they have permission to laugh at something that is clearly offensive to some.🤷🏼♂️
I just find it a very odd thing to observe. 😳
@@CaesiusX I agree so much with your comment. In my case, I've run way more into the latter than the former. Which, to be honest, is super weird to me. It's almost as if they trained themselves just so that they get as little criticism as possible at the expense of actually enjoying whatever content they're reacting to (which I guess kinda makes sense since they're doing this in front of everyone on the internet.)
@@CaesiusX It's the PC generation. Got to watch out for all the trigger warnings. Jokes aren't allow. Have you notice there aren't any comedy movies these days, and the few aren't even comedy?
@@CaesiusX they don’t think at all. That’s the problem. It’s all reflex. Kind of embarrassing tbh
how dare you, RDJ was magnificent in this movie.
I think she really does know that. Her need to be seen as woke wont let her admit it, though.
She’s seems like a nice person but she REALLY needs to leave the activist lens at the door a lot of the time. She’s getting worse and worse with it.
“What do you mean YOU people?
“What do YOU mean YOU people??” 😂😂
RDJ’s performance was always meant to be a satire about arrogant actors who think it’s okay to do that sort of thing for a film. It’s why it worked so well, people that were offended by it or got super mad about it sorta missed the point of what he was doing
As Robert Pattinson said (paraphrased): "Why is it that actors only method-act to be assholes?"
Spot on Nathan
@@BPhillips2000 Andy Kaufman and Jim Carrey playing Andy Kaufman comes to mind.
And how Hollywood will do anything to avoid hiring POC actors.
@@frfras7 That's the point. Only liberal white chick get offended by someone doing black face.
It's really sad how these days almost everyone has been conditioned to find something like this uncomfortable. They're like unable to first see or hear something, then process it and think independently. They just feel or react as they are told by society/media/government, etc.
The black face worked because no one in the movie thought it was a good idea but the characters doing it. It was never really depicted as being a positive idea. I liked how the actual black man was always, always offended and insulted. What a great depiction of a terrible, racist concept.
99% of the people I’ve seen complain about the blackface are Woke white women. Practically every black person I’ve ever seen online or talked to in person thought it was hilarious.
@@GeorgeEugeneBarrett I’m biracial, and I know that some of my family members would boycott a film like this and complain about it. My other family members wouldn’t. Can you guess which ones are white?
Yeah, the entire point was that his character is so wildly out of touch, that he somehow thinks blackface is fine.
It's never once looked at as a good thing
@@GeorgeEugeneBarrett How many of the 44 million plus black Americans would that have been?
@@blackalien6873 - Are you black? Do you have a problem with RDJ’s portrayal? Why are you being purposely cynical?
Downey was nominated for the Best Supporting Actor Oscar (as well as a Golden Globe, a SAG, and a BAFTA) for the role of Kirk Lazarus. Might darn near have won it too, had it not been the same year Heath Ledger had played the Joker in The Dark Knight. Yeah. It was that long ago. Cruise got a Golden Globe nom for Les Grossman.
"Yeah, it was that long ago." Feels like yesterday to me. It's depressing.
2008 was a pretty decent year for films.
Natalie, it's not RDJ in black face. He portrays an actor who's undergone operations and medical pigmentation to play a black character. It's not RDJ painting his face black to ridicule black race out of hatred and disdain, it's his character who's taking pains to be as believable as possible, only taking it into stereotypes. If anything, the movie takes a poke at SJWs who think they know better but become/turn out to be (involuntarily but inevitably) racial by their use of assumptions and generalisation. Plus, black people know how to laugh at themselves too when jokes are done by not-assholes (and RDJ is definitely not an asshole).
One of the greatest comedies ever robert Downey Jr was perfect in his role, Tom cruise was nuts
Fun fact, Tom cruise is the one who wanted to play an overweight, bald hairy belligerent producer, it was never in the initial script, just a brilliant idea.
@@OGT4204 just a brilliant idea from real life^^
Oh come on, RDJ was hilarious and absolutely brilliant. He did get nominated for an oscar for this and would have won if it wasn't for heath ledfger's joker. Satire is not for everyone, but the fact that is movie may not be made today is an absolute disgrace.
Satire has always been a sticky method of ridiculing society, because depending on your society, if your satire isn't exaggerated enough, there are going to be people out there that take it at face value. Now that we live in this generation and its "cancel culture" that seems to not want to see the context in which something is being done, satire is even more difficult to pull off.
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@@NelsonStJames We have The Boys. It is political satire.
Yeah the fact that she was more upset about RDJ in this than every black reactor I've seen watch this movie is...kind of not okay.
I believe Mel Brooks said, "we couldn't do it then, but we did it anyway." or something along those lines.
I was a combat medic and 82nsd Airborne, where most Special Forces, Ranger Battalion, Delta wannabes end up when they wash out of whatever elite training they couldn't handle. The 82d Airborne, where they have female soldiers who refuse to jump out of airplanes and still get a maroon beret. Anyway, since I left the Army and work in surgery at the VA I run into veterans who lie about their accomplishments, deployments, etc.... Nick Nolte played this comic but very real character to perfection.
The whole Simple Jack thing was directly inspired by Cuba Gooding Jr's, Radio. It's making fun of the fact that actors will use disabilities as fodder for acclaim.
I thought Forrest Gump was also the reference here? Or at least the comparison is that Hanks did not go "full retard"
I figured it was mostly based on I am Sam. Simple Jack's hairstyle is very similar to Penn's in that movie. Could be drawn from both, I guess.
I thought it was satirizing all the oscar winning actors playing disabled characters from Being There to Rain Man to Forrest Gump. It's a trope by this point that playing a disablled character will pretty much net you an academy award.
@@NelsonStJames he explains it in the film with the 'never go FULL r_____' line, he says Rain Man and Forrest Gump work because they aren't "full r_____" whereas films like Radio, I am Sam, etc. weren't as popular because those actors/roles were portraying extreme intellectual impairments comparatively
I knew this wasn't gonna go well when "I don't find fart jokes funny" happened in like the first 60 seconds. SO many people have filmed reviews of Tropic Thunder and just laughed like a normal human.
I love how Nat's been reduced to a giggling incoherent mess just trying _to describe_ this movie. XD
"He He He ummmm I don't know if it's my kind of humor ha ha"
Nattalie: “ I need a comedy to cleanse me from all the gore and intense other shows/movies”
*Its was at this moment that we all knew, she fucked up*
Watch Tropic Thunder, they said... It'll be fun, they said.
@@RudyBleeker they f*ckin lied 😂😂😂😂
@@bemasaberwyn55
"Well that was a fucking Lie" 💀
😂😂😂😂
@@Cyber_Samurai20 RIGHT? 😂😂
She's too uncomfortable with reality to find this as entertaining as those of us old enough to no longer care what folks think of us. Getting cancelled isn't real unless you're dishonest!
My thoughts exactly, so dis-engenguine to put on a face for fear of virtue signaling.
Pretty sure I'm younger than her and Tropic Thunder is one of my favorites. It's too damn good.
I'm glad that we have this movie to remind people that once upon a time, the world wasn't so serious and it was okay to joke about what is now considered 'sensitive' topics. definitely my favorite comedy movie.
This movie was like the series finale of how comedy used to be 😄
What? Clearly you weren't paying attention. NOTHING has changed. The vast majority of people take themselves far too seriously. That was true then and it's true now.
The 'sensitive' topics thing has always been a thing. Back then, now, and forever.
@@TheGeorgeD13 lol. when was the last time you checked the news? did you know that a bunch of comedians are now getting 'cancelled' for making jokes about 'sensitive' topics?
heck, here's a quote in an article written 2 days ago from a Family Guy producer:
“If you look at a show from 2005 or 2006 and put it side by side with a show from 2018 or 2019, they’re going to have a few differences.
Some of the things we felt comfortable saying and joking about back then, we now understand is not acceptable.”
sure, there may have been some resistance from the public back then too, but it's nothing compared to what we see now!
@@Fantasyremix lol damn, never thought about it that way but you're totally right
I’ve gotta say as a black man, RDJ gets a pass this movie is hilarious 💀 favorite part “I can collar up some of them greens” 😂😂😂
Yeah, I like subtle humor like that, and it's a breath of fresh air for me in a movie that's so over-the-top. (For those of you who haven't gotten it yet, they're "collard greens," not "collared greens.")
Are you speaking for all of us, or just yourself?
He pointed out that he was the one saying it, so it would be for himself. Because English.
@@blackalien6873 well this white chick surely doesn't speak for anyone....
This movie is so intelligently written, it’s such an amazing satire on the ridiculousness of Hollywood and actors, I also love that they don’t forget, that none of the actors know that Four leaf has hands, so when RDJ character is talking to him in the rescue, midway through what he’s saying, he just stops and says “fu©️k, you have hands!”, it’s such a great comedic beat. Then at the end, we find out the “Lance” Alpa Chino was referring to was Lance Bass from N’Sync, who’s at the awards show with him.
Bill Hader’s performance is small but also brilliant, he works into his performance, if you just watch him, you can see he’s always watching Les, trying to figure out the best thing to say & do to follow his lead, like a great “Number 2”, who’s frightened to death of the “Number 1”.
Another Brilliant, often overlooked comedy from the early 2000’s, is “Team America: World Police”, the film is made almost entirely with puppets and it’s a comedic masterpiece!
A movie that PC culture can't touch because it was done the right way. Glory.
AHHH BEFORE CANCEL CULTURE WAS A THING!!!!! BEST MOVIE EVER 😆 🤣
Oh loosen up, Nat. The entire point of RDJ’s character was how inappropriate/ridiculous his blackface performance was. It was a meta joke in good taste executed to the highest degree. He was literally nominated for an Oscar for it. A quick scan of just the comments on this video show how well-received his performance was by the black community.
Stop being afraid to say you liked it. This movie did exactly what it set out to do and it did it really well.
Was literally thinking the same thing she obviously thought it was funny 🙄🙄
100% Church! Sick of the fake “oh no I’m supposed to be offended”
Also Nat, your pure shock/half hyperventilating/ half wanting to laugh when Damien got unexpectedly blown into bits by the land mine was the best reaction to that moment 😂😂
Caught her completely wide open off guard. Haha
It’s because she is a one of these politically correct woke person that pretends that they are self righteous. I see her type a mile away.
What one has to understand, is RDJ isn't making fun of black people. He is making fun of actors that go too far. The movie brilliantly points this out the entire time. Al Potchino hopping by RDJ will never not be funny.
There was an entire feature length in-universe documentary about the making of this film. All the main actors shot *so* much more footage for this film!
Seeing people realize that it was Tom Cruise was one of the best moments I’ve had in the theater.
I don't really like going to theatres anymore, for a variety of reasons, and don't really miss it.... but seeing Tropic Thunder in the movie theatre was an unbelievable experience I'll never forget! 10/10
i didn’t know it was him until i saw his name in the end credits
If you are offended by the movie then you are part of the problem
@@thewonkyembouchure no not really. The word offended it's been around long before all that. Letting stupid things like this get to you in life is not worth it you only have one life to live so just loosen up and don't let anything bother you because it's all meaningless
@The Wonky Embouchure. Lol. What conspiracy theory nonsense. Everything is "coded" and "a dog whistle" to people like you. He meant the word "offended." Nothing more. YOU are part of the problem.
@@dabegmister oh and I am sure slaves that were happy to work for the Confederacy in Gone with the Wind was meaningless too. By your logic, the anti-woke crowd shouldn’t be offended by She-Hulk either.
@@pmpowalisz You are so off topic mind your own business Clown. Never seen Whatever show you're talking about so I don't care On my own person I'm not a part of any f****** crowd
@@pmpowalisz There are so many African American comedians that make fun of white people and I don't care I laugh at it Stop Taking life so seriously it's meaningless we're all gonna die none of it matters
Love this movie, especially RDJ, he is amazing! My favorite line is right after Stiller says 'He's playing god'
RDJ: "He ain't playing God', he being judged by him!". I laugh so hard every time.
My favourite is "Lance?! What the f**k did I just hear, Lance?"
If it weren’t for Heath Ledger’s amazing performance as the Joker, I’m convinced that Robert Downey Jr. would’ve won the Oscar for this. 2008 was a damn good year for RDJ. ❤️
You mean if it weren't for heath dying.
@@dd-ye2zq I’m pretty sure that Heath would’ve won even if he hadn’t died. Not much reason to believe otherwise since James Dean, Ralph Richardson, and later Chadwick Boseman haven’t won their nominations.
@@dd-ye2zq I thought Heath was so so as The Joker and didn’t deserve the Oscar either.
It wasn't just the face that he died that won him the Oscar. He was also pretty widely believed to be robbed of a win for Brokeback Mountain. There's a pretty good chance he would have won as a belated recognition for that movie.
@@ratelvis His Joker performance is way overrated. I mean, he was great at first, but then boring as he was on screen way too long.
The moment the director blows up. It’s just perfect way to establish the actual tone of the movie.
Watching Nat be as uncomfortable as she was with the off brand humor is almost better then the movie.
Everyone loves this movie partly because of the uncomfortable parts.
Not everyone thinks there were uncomfortable parts. It’s a comedy. Only the woke have a problem with everything. And the funny thing is, usually only white liberals have problems with RDJ doing the black face - not black people 🤦🏻♂️
I think it went a bit beyond uncomfortable for her. Seeing it just reminded me of RDJ on JRE saying it could never be done again
glad you enjoyed my uncomfortable-ness! Haha
When my girlfriend at the time saw it she leaned over and asked "What the fuck is this movie about?". It's one of the better descriptions I've heard.
@@christopherconard2831 its mainly about a dude, playing a dude, disguised as another dude
Robert Downey Jr's wife was the one that ultimately convinced him to take on the role after she read the script and thought it was absolutely hilarious.
People who say that a movie like this could not be made today should be saying that movies that poke fun at everyone SHOULD be made today. We, Americans, NEED to laugh at ourselves and get over this “I’m offended” garbage.
Never go full Natalie!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Or never go full Gen Z. But, I don't hate her. She's just a product of her environment and the current times. 🤷🏿♂️
And to be more accurate, I think she's a young millennial.
The reason why RDJ got away with blackface even when it was made, was because everyone got that it was calling out Hollywood's past and present, using white actors in ethnic roles. I'm not sure you purposely avoided the "You Don't Go Full R.....", but that was also a call out to award shows that give out statues for roles like that, and the actors that seek out those roles because they know it's an almost guaranteed nomination (and often a win), IE Dustin Hoffman, Billy Bob Thornton, Tom Hanks, etc. It's actually a brilliant takedown on Hollywood, it's overblown blockbusters, the excessive use of violence, the ridiculous deals, and the cult of celebrity itself. I think it's Ben Stiller's best comedy!
I think the reason that a lot of the current generation don't get the satire, is that they simply haven't watched enough movies, or know the history of Hollywood, and the awards. The film is rather scathing on it's look at the Industry, but unless you're kind of plugged into how that industry operates, a lot of it is going to go over your head. I doubt Natalie has ever seen Rain Man, Slingblade, or Being There.
well said
It's just one of the best comedies period by anyone.
Gotta love a great comedy
Exactly. It works because it's self-satire. But on the other hand I'm sure a lot of the people who both like and dislike this movie don't actually get the joke.
This movie brought a level of comedic brilliance that i didn't think Stiller had in him. And i never laughed so hard at being so wrong while watching this movie the first time.
Maybe Clark Kent had the perfect disguise after all. She recognised Tom because of the voice despite the make up, she recognized Robert in black face, but did not recognise Jay Baruchel because he was wearing glasses. lol
I think Nat is more shocked than anything else. I can't really tell if she enjoyed it or not. I'm leaning towards not because at the end she tell us she doesn't ever want to see this again. Kinda surprising and sad, really. This is an amazing movie but I think she was put off by the black face of RDJ, almost like she's afraid to like it because of that.
Yeah, she really did strike me as kinda "clutching her pearls" a bit with this one. She is familiar with the film industry, so it did kinda strike me as odd that she didn't react to certain things and clear commentary on Hollywood-isms.
Everybody is walking in eggshells these days. Its just fear to be cancelled.
@@thedefinitionisthis People who work in that industry are kinda up their own asses, so maybe that’s why she just didn’t realise
I can't tell if she was faking being uncomfortable with the black face or she was being the white person that is some how uncomfortable with black face like being all snarpy with it just showed she is trying to impress people that she is politically correct. But idk that's just my observation.
Nah. By reading some comments she appeared to be uncomfortable because she didn't really understand it. I thought she was more aware than that.
When youre more uncomfortable about RDJ in black face than black people are it's time to recheck your "offended scale".
to this day, this is my favorite comedy. It's both hilarious and thought-provoking
Oh great... A sensitive Canadian of the modern era watching one of the greatest American comedies and meta-satires of all time... This outta be fun...
"I really didn't know what I was getting myself into with this movie." Um, comedy.
Tom Cruz did such a good job in this movie, none of my friends or I knew it was him until the credits.
Ben as a director is INCREDIBLE. Really hoping you check out Severance, i know you'd LOVE it and be completely mind blown. it's gorgeous from a filmmakers perspective as well, absolutely up your alley.
Strongly second this. Ben doesn't appear in the show but directs most of it and it is great though far different than this
_Severance_ is wonderful. I'll drop my money on AppleTV just to watch the second season when it comes out.
I'd really like to see her reaction to "Something About Mary", but considering how she responded to this, it's probably not such a good idea. This generation really can't handle a lot of comedic films from the past.
Man, oh man! Severance is brilliant!
I worked in corrections for a time and escape at denamora is maybe the greatest and most accurate portrayal of prison ever made.
Seeing people offended of RDJ in this film doesn’t see the point they were trying to make. It’s the people nowadays who are scared about these things that ruin these movies.
I also think the bit about the villains being fans of Simple Jack was a nod to the 80's movie Romancing the Stone where the cartel is about to kill the two leads until they discover she's the author of their favorite books. I recognized that parallel right away when I first saw this movie. It really is a nod/satirical look at Hollywood and movie tropes.
Another good satirical movie about Hollywood like this one is Hail Caesar.
"Suck my unit" gets me literally every time. I don't even know why 🤣
No one should be offended by RDJ in this film. Am I black? No. Have I ever seen someone who was black upset by this? Also no. Its purposeful and funny. All there is to it.
Only the woke was mad at RDJ in this role. Everyone loved it. I’m black and quoted him all the time when this came out.
Woke nation, grow up and think for goodness' sake. Funny is funny.
RDJ had me rolling! Watching this never gets old!
Did you see the bonus material of Lazarus 'getting into character,' basically by hiring an Asian family and living with them to evoke his inner-PTSD?
By far my favorite character is Les Grossman (Tom Cruise).
Cracks me up every time.
In an interview Tom Cruise said when they approached him about doing the movie he said the only way he would do it is if his character had very large hands.
If you really look you can see that his character's hands are relatively large for his arms and body.
When you say you "weren't prepared" for this movie, what you mean is "I dont know what the woke position is on this movie, so I'm afraid to say i liked it." RDJ's character was making fun of actors like that. Stop being afraid of Twitter mobs.
She also thought it was just a standard comedy as you can tell by her intro, so I don't think she was prepared for how insane it is
holy crap, this is one of the best comments on this post. I couldnt put it into words: but you did it perfect.
well said, my man. well said. This comment deserves more than just a thumbs up.
Damn, she is allowed to be uncomfortable.
@@blackalien6873 pretty sad that she needs to be uncomfortable.....
@@blackalien6873And we’re allowed to notice it. It’s just sad to see the result of years of indoctrination on full display here..
Probably the best satire on Hollywood there is.