BGL-6G-AP Flight Stabiliser with RTH - Setup
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- Опубліковано 28 кві 2015
- MAD RC Is proud to present the BIGAOLE BGL-6G-AP 3 Axis Flight stabiliser with GPS Return to Home.
You can buy from my eBay store - www.ebay.com.au/usr/mad_rc
OR send me an email directly (mad.rc.info@gmail.com) for a PayPal invoice and save a few dollars off the eBay price.
If you have been using the Turnigy T1000FC and are frustrated that you can't turn it off, then this might be the solution for you.
Check out the RCGroups thread here - www.rcgroups.com/forums/showth...
Special Features:
* 3 axis gyro and 3 axis accelerometer.
* GPS Return to Home (RTH).
* 3 Modes (Off, Stabilise and RTH).
* Can be set up to return your plane on the fail-safe of your receiver.
(Receiver must be enabled for failsafe).
* Can configure for use on Standard Plane, Flying Wing or V-Tail airframes.
Specs:
Weight: 28g (Total inc. GPS)
Size: 23*38mm
Working current: 30mA
Working temperature: - 15℃- 65℃
Working voltage: DC4.8V--6V
Servo compatibility: 1.52ms analog servo, 1.52ms digital servo
Radio compatibility: PPM . PCM .2.4G
If you have any questions about the BGL-6G-AP then post them below or send me an email.
Make sure you check out the set-up of the transmitter switch - • BGL-6G-AP on Turnigy 9...
Cheers
Michael
I just got mines 2 weeks ago, tested it last weekend and works great. All 3 modes work, i was surprised to see the thing going on circles in the sky. Put a smile on my face.
Hi Michael,
Though you presented this video in 2015, it is still valuable. I am a modell pilot that has learned flying by doing and crashing. Still using my second 'We Can Fly' modell, that is held together with glue and a lot of tape. The first one was beyond repair after again another severe crash. I was really fed up with crashing and discovered the BGL Installed it in my plane and started flying again. And now I have made a lot of wonderfull flights without any damage!! Also made a lot of SIM hours that turned out usefull. My learning plan is to make as much hours as weather permits to become ultimately comfortable and with the plane at height, switch to the unassisted mode. The 'RTH' option also works perfect. I also programmed 'RTH" in the 'Fail Safe' mode of my x-mitter. Have tested it when on the ground and works fine also.
Best regards, Jan Willem
Netherlands
Same here! Very useful video. I would caution to be careful adjusting the little gain knobs. They are very delicate.
Tested out the controller I got from you a few weeks ago. Fitted to my bix3. I was very impressed with the ease of setup & it works great! tested the return to home from 2k out & it worked flawlessly & held height perfectly. I would recommend this unit
+irvine40 Great news! Thanks for the comment!
Thanks for the demo. Just got one and since the instructions were difficult to understand, your video sure helped. Happy Flying
Very happy to be of assistance. Thanks for commenting, it is good to know the vid is still helping!
Thanks Michael. With the help of this video I now have a Bixler 2 that Returns to Home. Tested it in 15kn and it worked. Even tried failsafe RTH by turning the radio off, scary but it worked.
+Andrew Newton Thanks for the comment, it is brilliant to hear it has worked out. Would be good to do a little formation FPV. Add Mark in (once he has built his Cloudy) as well for a bit of three way air to air footage! Although getting planes near each other seems a bit like herding cats. Cheers Michael
+MAD RC I'm willing to give it a try, surely we have the skills.
+Andrew Newton HA! Surely
Andrew Newton hi Andrew I found my questions answer reading your comment. So your using taranis x9d remote is it. Which sets the failsafe switch automatically on failsafe. I need to research this on my taranis qx7
Andrew Newton Hi
Need to confirm if the plane return to home if it's lose the transmitter signal ???
Great video just bought one from your ebay store and look forward to getting started.I also got fed up with the T1000fc.
Ohhh. Now i know you have an e-bay store !! N ur a mate of Andrew. Right on. Thx man
Yes, that is right I have the BGL-6G on my ebay store. Cheers and thanks for your comment!
Great vid, very helpful, many thanks.
This looks look a great option for park flyers.
Hi Michael, Congratulations on a very well presented review. I presume from your video that the unit's stabiliser program is set and cannot be programmed. Also I have a Radian XL with the AR636 receiver. Should I replace it with a non-stabiliser rx, or will they work together.
Hi John, the stabilisation is in effect Auto Level. It will limit roll and pitch as well as return the plane to level flight when you take your hands off the stick. There is an adjustment on the unit that increases or decreases the sensitivity of the auto level.
When you are looking at stabilisation from something like your AR636, they will allow you to fly unlimited but reduce the affect from the wind.
They will work together, but I'd suggest programming your radio to have all the modes seperate. Off - Stabilisation - Auto Level - Return to Home.
Cheers Michael
Hi, thank you for the presentation. My BGL is bought and installed. But the manual is not very precise, so I have some question.
- New model created, no trims. So when and how should I trim the model, because in manual mode I need model to be trimmed?
- Really no mix functions? I use to use Aileron/Rudder mix, dual rates and exponencial something:-)
Thank you.
Hi Mike, just wondering how to set-up failsafe for this to RTH. What's the usual procedure? Cheers!
Thanks Mike.
Just ordered mine.
If it gets a tick from Mr Newton, it must be pretty good. ☻
Hi Michael, trust you're well. I have 2 of these AutoPilots for my FPV Planes. On one of them the GPS receiver has stopped working. Do you know where I could buy a new one? or do you know of a compatible unit. I tried to use a Beitian BN-220 GPS but although this fired up and got a GPS fix it was not compatible with the BGL-6G-AP. The red light just stayed on all the time... Regards, Pete
Many thanks. Mike
Thinking of getting one of these for my dads hk cloud surfer. His spektrum dx6i however, only has two way switches so im doubtful if it will be possible to select manual/flight stabalise/gps rth. Any ideas?
G'day +Stephen hathaway I have spoken to another guy that needed to control one with his DX6 or DX6i. I thought it has a 3 pos switch for the flaps? Otherwise, there was another guy that set his up using two different 2 Pos switches. When they where both up Mode was OFF when when switch was down the mode was Auto Level and when the other switch was down the mode was RTH. Check out this DX6i vid from Motion RC. They are setting up a gyro on the DX6i - ua-cam.com/video/gKObxglL8lM/v-deo.htmlm30s
I hope that helps.
Cheers Michael
excellent video
Quick note received this nd got it setup, cool. Came quickly so thanks. Now to try it in flight!
I found just setting up a new model on the th9x let me set the 3 switch. I'm still not sure why you have in ur setup video so the pot effects the 3 switch on the 9x. Don't know how the hell you figured out how to do those settings the th9x is a confusing beast. I've got the EZUHF attached and it seems to work well on bench. Email a few questions just go to my last email others where me freaking while not being able to figure it out.
And if anyone knows how to set this so it RTH as fail safe on the TH9X please let me know it'd be a big help.
Thanks for quick send mate really great service.
Hey Angus, I sent a reply to your email. I hope that helps. I am sure your EZUHF has a failsafe, but not sure how to set it. Cheers Michael
Mad RC. Great video. I have been looking for a good economical FC and it looks like this might be the one. Question? Can you set the RTL altitude? I plan to use 0% throttle at failsafe on my AWS28.
Thanks
I have subscribed.
Hi Jason. The altitude that the plane is at when the RTH is engaged is maintained (as best as possible given the airspeed). I have my ASW28 set-up with no throttle on the fail safe too. There is a tonne of good information on my RC Groups thread too - www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2417656-Bigaole-BGL-6G-AP-Auto-Pilot-System-With-GPS-and-Return-To-Home
Cheers Michael
Thanks much Micheal. Great information
Greetings from Florida USA
Cheers.
U r a legend. Thanks for help
Hi MAD RC, just one question, please - how often should be done Communication recognition (6.2) with GPS - (switches 1,2 - ON, Off)? Only one first time, or every time when I power BGL-6G-AP. Thanks.
Hi +Alex Taranov this is just needed once. It is the first time that you set-up for the plane to set the correct levels for the airframe. Cheers Michael
Great video
Thanks mate! I appreciate that you have taken the time to let me know too.
I have been using this flight stabilizer for some time and I am a bit disappointed with the RTH. On different occasions the plane does not return to home but go's straight ahead in stabilized mode. I regret that one cannot use Flaperon with this stabilizer because there is only one output channel for aileron 1 and 2.
Hi Stephane, thanks for your feedback. I have not experienced this sort of behaviour. Although, I usually fly in the same place, so my RTH position rarely needs to be reset. Do you fly at different locations? You may need to make sure that the home position is set correctly by pressing the Rest Button after the GPS has a lock on the satellites (blue light flashing).
Certainly the BGL-6G-AP does not have as many features as some other units that will allow flaperons and other advanced mixing, but to be fair, it is a very cost effective RTH. Probably the cheapest RTH in the world I think. Cheers Michael
Stéphane D'Hollander m
Hi nice video! I have a plane which has already a 6G/3D stabilizer integrated. Do you think I can add the BGL-6G-AP to get the RTH function? Can this module interfere with the existing stabilizer of my plane?
G'day, yes the two stabilisers would interfere with each other. But if you have enough switches could set it up to have one on is certain modes and the other on when needed in different modes. So to get the rth function you would need to program the radio to switch off the other stabiliser when you select the rth mode. And make sure to switch off in failsafe too. Cheers Michael
hello Dear Mike, where xan I find documentation - ive done a lot of research but havent found anything- of how to set the wiring on flying wings like the skywalker or the skyfun? thanks 4 your help as always :D
Hi +Jon J Villa No specific set-up instructions for the flying wing, but the switch combination on the unit must be set with S1 OFF S2 ON.
As for the servo connections, one wing will go to the Aileron channel and the other servo will go to the Elevator channel. Nothing in the rudder.
Then I think you'll just set up your transmitter as normal, mixing for a flying wing.
You may need to check the directions of the auto level setting and the stick inputs and either adjust your transmitter directions or the gain potentiometers on the BGL.
I will have a new video soon to the set-up of a new stabiliser from Bigaole (no RTH) and I'll do it on my Tek Sumo flying wing, so stay tuned. Cheers Michael
Hi Michael,
Can you describe how I can setup Flaps on my DX8e with the AP. Setting the aircraft type to 1 Flap 1 Aile allows for the addition of Elev and Speed input but conflicts with the AP.
Hi John,
Sorry mate, I don't really know the Spektrum gear very well, but I helped a fellow pilot a while back to set his gear up. One of his planes had the full set, Ailerons, Flaps, Gear and all of it was setup on a DX8 G2 with no conflicts.
I did a few videos for him, but they are not listed.
I think if you use this link - ua-cam.com/video/bzzRdmjNsaQ/v-deo.html
you should see the physical setup of the receiver and connections to the flight controller and servos mocked up.
If you use this link - ua-cam.com/video/bzzRdmjNsaQ/v-deo.html
you should see a detailed explanation of the radio setup.
The videos are in context of setting up someones gear and explaining what I have done, so you might have to go through some details not pertinent to the flaps, but the details are all in there somewhere.
I hope it helps. Cheers Michael
I got a question, i got a bigaole for my wing and set it up for wing mode.My question is, can i use the rudder for make my cam look around? Or even if the wing not have a rudder, will it still be controlled by the bigaole controller?Or does the controller in wing mode passtrough the rudder?Thx
G'day +Denof The rudder channel passes through the BGL-6G-AP, but you can control that channel in all modes of operation. There is not need to pass it through though. You can connect it directly to your camera. Check out the RCGroups thread too for more information and other suggestions www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2417656&page=18#post34101468 Cheers Michael
Hi. I am going to use one of these. When I set the fail safe on the receiver ( lemon). Do I set the fail safe for the throttle only or ailerons elevator etc. Would be grateful for your advice. Mike
G'day Mike, your throttle failsafe will depend in the airframe. On he Bix3 I have about 40% throttle on failsafe, but for my ASW28 I have no throttle set in failsafe. At a minimum you want to set the mode of the BGL-6G-AP to the RTH mode, no need to set anything for the ailerons or elevator. I hope that helps. Cheers Michael
G'day Mike, just wondering how to setup fail safe for this unit. I heard you mention it will RTH on fail safe? I can't seem to find how to do this in the instructions. Cheers, Jase
G'day Jase, (RCWASPOVISION ) Sorry mate, I have some how missed your questions here. And I do know that we've caught up since, but I thought it best to answer your question here too, in case others have the same question.
For any fail safe, the receiver needs to be capable of being set into the desired stick and switch positions when you loose the connection to the transmitter. This is different across the different brands of receiver. For example - Turnigy receivers have no fail safe, frSky have a button, Spektrum vary across the different models.
I have more information about fail safe on the RC Groups forums - www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2417656
Cheers
Michael
Thanks Mike! ;)
I am wondering if this GPS unit when you flying the the plane has the option to monitor the speed and battery and heading distance altitude extra things while we could see them during flight on the ground monitor display if the option is available please let us know.
G'day Roger, I think you're asking of this RTH/Autopilot has an On Screen Display (OSD)? Simple answer is no, no information is sent to your video standard. I have had some people that have bought it have modified the GPS to also feed a separate OSD unit for that purpose. I have used a Remzibi, but keep it separate from the RTH. I hope that answers your questions. Cheers Michael
Can't seem to get the modes working on a flying-wing. Does both elevons connect to channel 1 and 2 on FrSky Rx?
+leadpan I'd can suggest a couple things to try and isolate the issue.
First, the GPS must have a connection to the satellites or the unit will default to stabilise mode. The blue light on the GPS unit will flash when it has a connection.
Second, ensure that you have left wing into the aileron channel and right into the elevator channel as marked on the BGL unit. As for the FrSky, the channels are assigned in the transmitter, so you might need to double check the settings for the model you've set up.
I hope that gives you a few things to go on with, but feel free to reply with any additional questions.
Cheers
Michael
G'day +Peter Ha Could be the gains set in the wrong direction. I have done that on my ASW28, but luckily switch off the stab before disaster. I hope any damage can be fixed.
Best tip I can give for testing the right direction is the aileron should drop WITH the wing. Best of luck for your next flight. Cheers Michael
Freakin awesome!
Hi I have one of these units but I find during calibration it flashes then I get a steady red then the servos move and I get the flashing again. The unit also does not respond to the transmitter aux switch as the unit is always in stabilization mode. Any Ideas?
G'day Gyrophill, It sounds like you don't have a connection for the GPS. You need to make sure that if you have the GPS plugged in during the setup, you need to be out doors or close to the window so you can connect to satellites. You will see the blue light start to flash if you have successfully connected to satellites. If the blue light is solid, there is no connections.
The red light sounds like the calibration is still ok. Cheers Michael
Hello great videos by the way. I am having a issue with transmitter reconnecting. I have only tried it in my garage so far and when i test the RTH mode for when i loose signal ( When i turn the TX off) and then turn the TX back on the RX never reconnects again ( correct that, it did reconnect once after about a minute or two of being stuck in RTH) but hasn't since. I've tried flicking all the switches in every possible configuration and turning TX off and back on again in each switch position. but nothing. Everything seems to work fine when i have signal all modes seem to work fine and will engage and disengage but not when i turn the TX off and on again
Chris Appel G'day Chris, interesting issue. I don't think it is specific to the controller though. What transmitter and receiver are you using? does it connect quickly when you first turn it on?
So the problem is with my receiver. I took out a Frsky X8R reciever (i had in a quad that is very patiently being brought back from the grave from drop from 400 ft) and tried it with my Turanis Plus TX and everything worked perfectly. I must have a purchased a faulty tactic receiver and am sending it back. But i think i will just keep this receiver in this plane and use my Turanis Plus instead. It will be a far better set up anyway and save the tactic setup for a park flyer setup at some point. Thanks for getting back to me and thanks for making the video on setting up the Turanis with this also BIG help
hello my friend!amazing video!do you know if i can to work with that rc boat?only i wan't is the RTH........THANK YOU!
all4-adventure's I have never tested it with any other RC vehicle, but I suppose in theory the aileron channel may work to direct the boat if connected to the rudder.
ok thank you so much for answer!i am trying many days to found ready autopilot gps for rc boat and i can't found!again thank you!
First great video second I just now purchased from your ebay store. I didnt realise it only has a 1 wire Aileronconnection. I dont know how that works when they run off two channels. I am using the flysky th9x which I think is the same as your control so dont know how you have yours set up to run off one channel. If you can let me know how that works that would be great. I have just yesterday switched to a EZUhf TX an RX but it just runs using the flysky. Also does it failsafe to return home on loss of control signal?
Any hlp with above would be great hope Aus post does get it here over night.
Cheers Mate
G'day Angus, yes there is only one channel for the aileron. You need to get yourself a y-lead to join the two connections from each aileron together.
As for the failsafe, you will need to make sure that your receiver is set up to fail into the correct position to engage the RTH. In this video I have a FrSky module in the back of my Turnigy 9X. The FrSky receiver has capability to set what each channel does if you lose connection to the transmitter.
It looks like the ExUHF has a similar feature as the FrSky receiver. There should be a button on the receiver that allows you to set the position of the switches (put the switch into RTH mode) in the transmitter and then push the button to save them to the receiver. Then if the plane goes out of range, the receiver will remember the position of the switches and return to home or within range.
I hope that helps Cheers Michael
Cheers mate. I.ve ordered mine from your ebay store.
Now I'm new to fixed wing after getting sick of drones, still like to fly them now and then but planes look like so much more fun.
It seems you may have the th9x and I am buggered if I can work the mixing out properly. If you do have this controller would I be able to throw some questions your way? If you don't, O well I'll have to keep trying. I have got the EZUHF attached to controller so can use the TH9x failsafe as its a little harder setting the ezuhf for external devices so Im told. And have watched the 3 channel switch setup will do that in prep for arrival of flight controller.
Thanks again the flight controller looks great.
Gus
Hi Angus. I did have the Turnigy 9x, which is the same as, or at least similar to the th9x. But I use the Taranis now, so I'm a a bit rusty on the old 9x. The mixing is certainly tricky, but I have done a few different videos for setting up the 3pos switch that might help. If you have questions please ask and I'll try to help. Cheers Michael
Is there anyway to add sbus receiver to this? I have a frsky R9mm which only has 4 channel pwm. It does have sbus, so was trying to figure out how to go about wiring it.
Hi Shaheed, like I said over in the RCGroups thread - You need to connect the actual servos from the receiver to the BGL-6G. There is no SBUS. Cheers Michael
Okay, thank you!
Hi micheal
I am here to ask how to connect this thing to fpv camera and vtx to see all flight parameters
G'day Wiktor, this unit can not connect to the vtx to display any flight information. You will need a separate OSD like a Remzibi or minimOSD. Cheers Michael
Hi Michael, does the RTH work with Spektrum AR6210 receiver? If so, how does it know, that AR6210 lost signal? Do you deliver to EU?
G'day, the BGL-6G will work well with the AR6210, but i think that receiver only has a default failsafe. Which means I don't think you can set the necessary channel to engage RTH mode. Check this thread for some more information www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=23916689&postcount=1
I do supply to the EU, send me an email if you'd like one. Cheers Michael
Sorry TheBuzzdev that reply was from my regular account. Cheers Michael
Hi Michael, many thanxs.. Let me test that undocumented failsafe settings on my receiver, if that's not working as expected, i'd most probably also need to get some other receiver for RTH to work. The AR has already minus points (by me) for not having standard RSSI output... i'll drop you an email then... Thanxs
GDay. Just ordered this system and want to know how to setup foe a Radian XL which is rudder elevator - thx
G'day Kiwi, No problem, just add the rudder channel to the AIL channel of the Auto Pilot. And the elevator to the elevator too, of course. Good luck, Cheers Michael
Do you have to manually reset the home position for each location you fly?
That is correct. When you fly at a new location simply press and hold the SET button until the red LED goes solid, you have set a new home point.
G'day Mike, got the unit installed in my mates Bixler. Pretty easy set-up. Just need to test it now. Hopefully tomorrow!
I was just wondering about the stabilization though as there doesn't seem to be any rudder output like on most 3-axis stabilizer units. Is that how this unit functions or have I plugged it in wrong?
RCWASPOVISION G'day Jase, that is right, no rudder. Should be a fantastic day for testing tomorrow. I put my ASW28 up for the first time today. And to my surprise when I flicked the sabiliser on it started to slowly spiral towards the ground! Flicked off and tried a few more times, but same result. Landed and had another look at the direction of the gains on the unit and sure enough, I had them backwards! Unbelievable, but no harm done. Landed, fixed back up. So please, make sure you take off in manual mode, get some height and then test the unit! Cheers Michael
MAD RC Will do mate! Tomorrow's supposed to be an awesome day!! Will be up bright and early. I'm glad you sorted out the unit before the ASW28 hit the deck. Such a nice bird and I'll definitely getting one! Have a great day and I hope you can get some nice footage! Cheers, Jase
MAD RC I managed to get a flight in today with the flight controller installed. Ground test showed RTH wasn't giving extreme aileron turn. I pushed the "set" button and then it worked. (Is this something you have to do everytime you plug in the battery Mike?) I then tested it in the air by going out 100m then switched to RTH. It started to turn then come back and proceeded to do a figure 8 around my standing position. Impressive! I then tested stabilization and it worked well! All-in-all a great little device. My only drama was after testing, I was coming in to land between some trees and lost perspective. Spent the afternoon with a very long stick trying to get the plane it out of a tree. lol! Eventually got it down. All good! :)
RCWASPOVISION OH No! Trees are the natural enemy of the RC pilot. But it sounds like a successful test of the BGL, if not a completely successful flight. With regard to the home position, you only need to do that once at any new location. It will remember the last Home position. But if in doubt, it is only a click of the button until you get the solid red light, to be sure.
Michael Downie Ha ha! Tell me about it. I told my mate to expect the plane to come back and circle around home. lol! So, I will let him know to hit the "set" button when ever he fly's at a new location to be on the safe side. Thanks again Mike. Great product! :)
can u show how to set up failsafe on flysky i6 and bigaole gps ??
Ho Mitch, sorry I don't have a FlySky i6, but there are quite a few good vids on how to set-up the failsafe. ua-cam.com/video/LXTEXqR_ghI/v-deo.html I would say that basically, make sure you set the channel you have your mode on set to engage the RTH mode. The throttle is an option depending on your plane type and safety preferences. I have a couple of my planes set with 40%-50% throttle, but one of my gliders is set with no throttle. I hope that helps. Cheers Michael
Does this really have to be mounted on the CG? I have a Raptor and I would like to mount it on the flat spot just in front of the wing.
G'day Randall, ideally the BGL should be mounted on the CG, but it will still work if you have it forward or aft of the CG. Obviously don't mount it out the end of the wing but it will still work. The closer to the centre you are the better. I have the unit in my ASW28 forward of the CG, works fine. Cheers Michael
I didn't figure it would be that critical on a big plane like the Raptor. Thanks for replying so quickly.
hi michael... i just got a bigole 3g-a today for my girl friend's glider would you happen to know if that stabilizer would work on a analog transmitter? bill..
+bill hiscock I think the determining factor for radio compatibility is the receiver signal type. The Bigaole documentation claim compatibility with PPM, PCM, 2.4G. I think that most 36mhz works on PCM (Pulse Code Modulation), so without knowing your particular details, I think that maybe it will work?
+MAD RC the transmitter i trying to use is the (tactic TTX 600 ) 6 ch. i got it to work but not working rite... i can't find anything about ppm or pcm so far in the infor. on the radio yet... thanks bill
i appear to be having a little trouble setting the rth mode to a toggle on my tarains receiver no sure of this procedure and how would you know if you got it rite is there a way to test it? the instruction manual i got with the bgl-6g-ap was faded (hard to read) and not a hole lot of infor. on how to set rth mode to transmitter .... lost at this point...
G'day +bill hiscock please stay tuned, I'll do a video for the Taranis set-up, and that should clear things up. Cheers Michael
+bill hiscock I have put a quick video together with my settings for the RTH on the Taranis and there'll be another one soon with some other set-up tips too. Check out the Taranis here - ua-cam.com/video/_BKaeRJRLrY/v-deo.html
Send me an email if you have any questions. Cheers Michael
+MAD RC thank you so much! michael..
Do You think this will work with plane which doesn't have rudder? I plan to put it in my micro skyhunter :-)
Studebaker, no probs. Just connect to the ailerons and elevator and you will be fine. cheers Michael
Thanks !
I have heard this is not compatable with a spektrum receiver, do you know if this is true?
G'day Gary, no problem with compatibility to the Spektrum receivers. Maybe if you have AS3X you would have to mix the modes carefully to make sure the Bigaole and the AS3X are not working at the same time. Cheers Michael
I installed this same unit on my q trainer 3d printed plane I went over the connections 3 times and when I tilt the plane up my elevator goes up when I tilt it down the elevator goes down opposite of what it's supposed to ? What did I do wrong or is there an adjustment? Thanks
My mistake I was using a Transmitter that only had 2 position switches , switched over to my taranis x9dplus followed your video to set it up set failsafe to half throttle using rth mode and works great . Could not have done it without your videos . Thanks
G'day Jeff. Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier. But looks like you got it all sorted. Good stuff! Cheers Michael
Hi, maiden my wing last weekend, return home all ok, this controller is super simple and works great. When i flip to return home does the controller takes control of throttle ? Or only flaps ? I did not noticed...
Hi Ricardo, no control on the throttle. Just the aileron and elevator controls. Cheers Michael
MAD RC strange. Should bring her home... how can it do it without accelerator? Should I configure my throttle to middle in case of radio failsafe ? I want if radio fail that can come back.
weird... so if i take it too far, the radio loses signal and failsafe kicks in and turns on return home... it will only take control of elevator and aileron, accelerator will go to zero... how can it returns home without power ???
Ricardo Oliveira setting throttle in failsafe. Duh! :)
done ! ;)
is it possible to order the cable that hooks into elev and rudder and sw
G'day William, I only have the complete units. You may be able to make one from a regular servo extension, just modify one end to split out to the other connections needed.
Cheers Michael
hi michael... ok i got everything working on the tarains (thank you) but not in the right sequence i am using the sc toggle.... (rth mode is sc up) ( off mode is sc-) and (stable or gyro mode sc down..) what could i be doing wrong? thanks bill..
Hi +bill hiscock , that is the same as mine.
RTH is at the top, OFF is in the middle and Stabilise/AutoLevel is at the bottom. Nothing wrong there.
If you wanted to reconfigure the output of the switch, I think you'd need to change the output values for the switch. This would require you to do a change to the mix I believe, to set a value for each switch position of SC switch.
What is your preferred mode for each switch position?
Cheers
Michael
+MAD RC ok cool thank you so much! your right! i got a email from aloft hobbies where i purchase the bgl-6g-ap and thats what they said (set value) ...but as we all know easier said then done... at this point i am going to leave them where they are at! or i wont have any flying time.... ;) your the greatest michael!
+bill hiscock No worries at all, glad to be of assistance. I would encourage you to check out some of the videos on UA-cam for the Taranis, it is a very powerful radio. I found a good series by a UK guy called Painless360 - ua-cam.com/play/PLYsWjANuAm4rtLZuLU2eSTc3svqWx-pa1.html
It is a fairly comprehensive series and covers a lot of things, I'm sure you'd find some of it very helpful.
Cheers
Michael
+MAD RC ok i will... i just put amber pack on taranis today but my girlfriend didn t like it so much.... what can i say oh well.. cheers!!!
+bill hiscock hahaha! nice work Bill. The Amber pack definitely has an "other woman" quality to it!
Hello!, another question. Here is the scenario: I am flying my Radian XL. It is in a thermal at 1,000 ft with the motor off. I turn on the RTH. What happens with the throttle and altitude? Don
G'day Don. Any time you switch the the mode into RTH the plane will attempt to hold current altitude and return to the saved home position. A lot of people set up their receiver (when capable) to include failsafe settings to engage the RTH mode and an appropriate amount of throttle to maintain altitude. I hope that answers your question. cheers Michael
Hello again Michael, yes that answers my questions! I appreciate that you took the time to help me. Don
i had same doubt... also got same answer... i have a wing... i have to set my receiver failsafe position to trothle channel medium power so it turns and returns.
My transmitter only has a 2-position switch, can I configure it to be in normal flying mode and RTH?
G'day Stephen, Theoretically you could use a 2 posisitons to output the signal to the receiver for off and RTH modes. I have done similat things on a old Hobby King transmitter that didn't have a 3 pos. Your transmitter will need to be programmable to ensure the switch output is in the rage of the modes that you want. Cheers Michael
@@madrc6667 Thank you, I'll dive into it!
Its great but what they fail to mention is both your transmitter and your receiver have to support gps! So from what i can gather you will have to use a little higher end transmitter and receiver. Would that be correct?
Hi, this is not correct. There is no need for the transmitter or receiver to 'have support for GPS'. The only thing that you may wish to consider is that your receiver has the ability to program the failsafe option, so you can ensure the RTH is engaged if you fly our of radio range. This sort of feature is available on most radios. Some radios only failsafe to the last input if the plane flies too far away.
Cheers Michael
@@madrc6667 Thanks excuse. my ignorance on the matter new to GPS I'm guessing that the reason this will not work for me is because the flying fx-I6 receiver does not support rth and that is a question thanks
@@TheIsenberg Each mode of the flight controller will work fine on the FX-i6 when you program a three position switch. The thing that you might need to research is if you can program/set a specific failsafe on the receiver for the FX-i6. The flight controller does not have any dependency on the receiver for the RTH.
Hi. Quick question? Cannot I add this to a pre-existing model on my radio? Or do I set up as a new model. It will be for a wing
Thanks👍
G'day Roderick, normally you can add to a model set up but with the wing, your radio will be programmed with the mixes needed to control the elevons. You will need to remove any mixes in the radio because the BGL-6G will do there mixing for you.
Thanks 👍
Will this work with a three channel plane (rudder, elevator, throttle)?
G'day Don, yes this will work fine on a 3 channel plane. Some of my flying buddies have them on their Radian gliders and they work well. You simply use the rudder channel in the plane in place of the aileron. Cheers Michael
Thanks! I have the entire family of Radians - umm, radian, pro, and xl. They are great!
This look ok , but I like all 3 flight modes you get with the T1000 and afer installing buddy box mode I can get manual mode ..
Hi Dan Thiede thanks for your input. I guess for me, the T1000FC also worked well, I used it for nearly a year. But, I only ever used stabilise and RTH modes, the attitude/altitude hold never seemed to provide any benefit for my flying. And most importantly, I did not want to have to add extra switching or circuitry (which may have created a point of failure) on top of the stock T1000FC. I did follow the theard on RCGroups that discussed the 'T1000FC Manual Mode with GPS' by lasersbee and I even looked into getting the MMB, but there was no way to import that to Australia. This BGL-6G-AP might not be for everyone, that is for sure, but if people are looking to have a smaller, cheaper unit that has an OFF mode as standard then I think this is an awesome product. Cheers Michael
What does the button marked SET do
G'day John
The set button is used during the setup, but primarily is used to set the home position. It is important to do that the first time you fly and again every time you fly at a new location. Cheers Michael
I want to use this in a rc fishing boat
Any RTH failsafe for loosing signal on that FC ?
Gday Michel to you will need to have a failsafe on your receiver to engage the RTH mode and apply for necessary amount of throttle. Cheers Michael
Hi Mike,can I choose flight altitude,such as 150 meters by this FC?
G'day +Area Fly . Thanks for the question, there is no pre-set height, the flight controller will maintain straight and level flight when the RTH is activated. So, assuming you have enough power this will maintain the same altitude. Cheers Michael
+MAD RC Thank you,Mike.then,it will be the same as of T1000FC,got it.
+Area Fly functionally speaking, it is. But it is smaller and has an OFF position rather than a heading hold. Cheers Michael
+Fpv Fly Thanks for the info. I want to highlight that both of the units you are linking to are about 30% more expensive than the BGL-6G-AP. I know there are a lot of options out there for flight controllers. Some include On Screen Display, some allow you to program weigh points, some have dual aileron control and they all cost more (some a lot more) than the BGL-6G-AP.
This unit is designed to be the best possible price for a RTH stabiliser. That means that there are a few features that are not included, like the a pre set altitude for the RTH.
If it is OK, I would prefer to keep the comments here about the BGL-6G-AP.
Cheers
Michael
Hello, I would like to say that I do not speak English so I'm sorry for the language ..... anyway, I have a zagi wing and also a stabilizer of these, same RX and same radio .... my question is: the term RTH means "return to home "? how could this be possible without a controller + gps?
Hi Franklin, I am not sure I completely understand your question, but this unit does have a Return To Home (RTH) feature. It does have a GPS and a flight controller.
Bigaole do also manufacture a different product for stabilisation only. It looks similar, but does not have a GPS and no RTH feature.
Does that help? Cheers Michael
@@madrc6667 OK. that's right. what I have is only the stabilizer, there is no connection for GPS. Thanks. very simple equipment and seems to comply with what it proposes
Does this work with Dsm2? If so I plan to get one!
+RC flight Seeker No problem to work on DSM2. The only thing that I would suggest is to check out the receiver that you plan to use and make sure that you can program a fail safe that will engage the AUX channel and switch on the RTH mode, in case you go out of range. Here is a link to a post about Spekrtum failesafe www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...89&postcount=1
Cheers Michael
Ok that's good, because I use lemon rx that is easy to program the failsafe into. Thanks for the info, and great video BTW.
Looks like a nice and simple unit. What's the GPS procedure and how do you know when it's locked on? Cheers!
Oh yeah it is really quite simple. The GPS has a blue led that will flash when it has a lock. Only takes a few moments.
Michael Downie Great! I have the T1000 but not installed yet. Think I'll sell it off to get one of these. My mate will probably grab one too. I'll hit you up on RCGroups. Cheers!
RCWASPOVISION Yeah good one. I replaced a T1000FC (which did work well) with this and just being able to switch it off is awesome!
Michael Downie Yeah, there is a work-a-round to switch the stab off on the T1000 but who can be bothered. lol! I just want a hassle free unit with RTH and smaller the better. ;)
RCWASPOVISION Yeah, I have seen that from the guy on RC Groups, with the board, but you are right a bit of a hassle. And I just realised I was replying with the wrong account. (not that it matters). Cheers Michael
hi mad rc , I am having trouble, when I turn on my rtl my plane just turns upside down and goes side to side very quickly , and in stabilization mode it does a loop and heads strait down, can you help?
G'day Charles, sounds like you may have the elevator channel reversed. You can test this on the bench by switching the plane into auto level (stabilise) mode and lift the nose. The elevator should go down to try and level the plane again. You can change the direction with the elevator gain dial. But if you do, double check this does not affect the inputs from your controller, you may need to revers the channel in your controller too. I hope that helps. Cheers Michael
MAD RC that was it , it works, except my failsafe, I checked it today by turning off my tx and motor kicked in and flew straight into an electrical Tower should my battery , gopro , and opterra was in pieces.
Oh Charles. That is not good news. I assume that the RTH mode was not set/engaged on your failsafe. I hope some of your gear can be repaired
MAD RC in the shop now making repairs, I had the failsafe in bind mode but something went wrong, it seam to function properly on the bench test,hopefully get it repaired and put it back up in the air soon ,thanks for your help,Charles
Best of luck
I installed but aileron stick will not work. Ailerons will stabilize but not stick control. I'm scratching my head over this one. Thanks for good video.
Hi +notsuretwo I think that it may be the selected mode is RTH. Couple of things to check; make sure if you have the GPS plugged in that you have a clear view of the sky. The GPS need to connect to satellites. You can tell that it is connected when the blue light is flashing. If the blue light is flashing and the red light on the unit is flashing too, check that the channel you have attached the control line to has been assigned correctly to the switch on your transmitter.
Otherwise send me an email with more details of the behaviour and I can try to determine what it going on with the install. Cheers Michael
Mad RC Ok, thanks for the reply. I have everything working all lights and modes and other channels work. I plugged the elevator out servo lead into the aileron out plug and i could control ailerons with the elevator control, but the aileron servo lead will not operate elevator. I pulled the 'aileron out' servo lead and plugged it directly into the receiver and it works fine so i am getting aileron signal from the radio. I guess there is an internal problem with the bigaole. I ordered two more of the bigaole stabilizers so i will try them when is receive them in the mail. Thanks for the advice.
+notsuretwo I got the new bigaole's the 3ga and the 3ga-v2 (no return to home). They work fine but stabilizing throws are small even after turning up gain screws. I tried with no expo and with expo added to mix. Do low rates affect the throw of the stabilization mode? Thanks
+notsuretwo sorry I do not know that much about those models. I have a sample of the v2 now so I'll be learning about it soon. I will have another video out in the next couple of weeks. Cheers Michael
Arrrrrgggg dont suppose you have or can get spare leads? I fear mine where thrown out when the plastic shopping bag they were in got mistaken for rubbish....By the way its going in a wing so only 3 channel. cheers
Hi Angus, Sorry, I don't have spare leads. But you can just use a standard servo lead and pull two of the pins out of the plug to use in the each of the other channels. In fact, you can get the plastic servo ends from Hobbyking for a few dollars - hobbyking.com/en_us/jst-sh-servo-plug-set-jr-gold-plated-10pairs-set.html and add the plugs to the other pins. Cheers Michael
Mate never guess it....... I found them! YOU LITTLE RIPPER! The were in a mess of a FPVRaptor 2 that I hadn't stripped to rebuild. Thought Id just check one last time then thought Ill strip it now and down the end of the tail wedged at the end where the leads. Thank the gods. Cheers for quick reply.
I hope this time I can use it last time plane went up plane turned plane came down. The raptor has an issue with wing stalls if not enough speed and it was my first plane so I've gone got a Opterra just as big but a little more forgiving.
Excellent news that they turned up! Good luck with the Opterra, such a nice looking plane. Be sure to keep the gains low when testing for the first time. Cheers Michael
My red LED doesnt Locks On in Calibration Mode...
G'day +Chris ImItReal the red light will blink when it has power. The only change is when you press and hold the SET button and the red led will go solid after about 3 seconds. The blue light on the GPS antenna will blink when it has connected to satellites. Check my other video for a few more tips on the set-up - ua-cam.com/video/J2lfk1IJCuQ/v-deo.html Cheers Michael
Have got a osd?
G'day Murat, this unit does not include an OSD. However, I am hopeful that Bigaole will release a new updated unit that will. If they do, I will include on my eBay store and make some new videos too.
Cheers Michael
Does this accept sbus?
No, simply attach ailerons servo and elevator servo plus the switch control. Cheers
Dam lol I don't t have any servo plug type rx's
@@psychio1234 it is designed for fixed wing (planes) so servo type is the most common.
Yeah I'm just getting into wings now own 3 I should but a full size r9 rx but it's so nice to have the small mm or slim versions wings are slowly incorporating sbus
hi bro