"Purdue has a problem at center"... Trey Kaufman-Renn: "if I got triple the amount of touches"
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- Опубліковано 24 чер 2024
- The Sleepers discuss an article about Purdue's "problem" at center, and Trey Kaufman-Renn's comment about touches
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I don’t think TKR is too far off base. He only took 4.8 shots per game. Lance Jones took exactly double the number of shot attempts per game at 9.6. Also Edey averaged 14.6 FGA plus 11.2 FTA so he he’s shooting close to 20 times a game. TKR getting 12-15 “touches” (shot attempts per game) I don’t think it too crazy.
Can he carry that sort of load and see that increase in production? Absolutely. Will he have to? I'm hoping not since that probably means the rest of the bigs aren't living up to their potential.
I'm guessing he's probably option 2 or 3 on offense, but not to the point where he'll lead the team in scoring this year. I see a modest bump, maybe to 10-12 ppg, while Smith, Loyer, Heide and Colvin will all see substantial bumps in scoring as well. I wouldn't bet against a couple of the guys off the bench getting 6-8 or so a game as well.
TKR at the 5 on defence worries me. That being said, TK can score the shit out of the ball with space.
TKR's comment was in reference to being asked about playing through Edey as the first option on offense. He wasn't implying that he should get the ball more over Edey last year at all. TKR will have a good year even at the 4 and use a double post attack with TKR/Jacobsen much like Indiana with Ballo/Reneu. TKR was extremely valuable at the 4 as he was able to overpower most players at that position.
Yeah it being taken out of context.
Exactly. It was more a hypothetical than anything ... as if Edey wasn't on the team.
As an Illini fan I shouldn't even comment on a Purdue Sleepers Pod.....just gotta say that as you guys are naming all of these names and throwing out players that this league is so incredibly stacked this upcoming season in basketball. Gonna be so much fun!
As a Purdue fan I absolutely agree! This is going to be a different B1G and a lot of teams have really good players, going to be a very entertaining season for sure!
Only thing is… Illinois is doing the same thing ucla did last year😂 we’ll see how it goes
As a fan of an actual conference and someone that understands basketball I just wanna remind you that the Big 10 is one of the worst major conferences and I think y’all will end the year with 2 teams in the top 25. The big 12 has like 7 teams better than the best big 10 team.
@@johnblue2270Big 10 refs are also heavily biased towards the home team and the top teams/players in the conference
Really? LOL @@johnblue2270
Raleigh Burgess is going to surprise people in the next couple years, IMHO.
TKR playing alongside a very good 7+ foot guy makes me happier. I don't care if you count him as a 5 or 4. If TKR is the center and he is the tallest dude for Purdue, then it will probably be a long year for Purdue. Unless TKR grows from 6'9 to say 7'1, he is just not going to compete against the best big men. Now him at a 4? Guarded by other 4s? I like that matchup.
6’9 is plenty big enough for a center lol. Painter always doubles the post on the catch anyways, even when he had Edey guarding their center and it didn’t really make sense to rotate and send a double.
The primary combination of TKR/Furst will be plenty good enough defensively.
@@3302Jackson Can you tell me a team with a 6'9 center who made a final 4 recently without crazy NBA level guards? I hope TKR has a great year and proves me wrong. I hope he scores 30 a night and pulls down like 15 rebounds. Again I like this dude, and time will tell, but if Purdue is going to go far, I just don't see this dude at center. Unless of course he suddenly can start shooting say 35-40% from the 3, and gain a great shot off the dribble. If he posts up low, like Edy did? All the time? He will, in my opinion have a solid game of around 16 points, and Purdue will loose against most good teams. He won't be able to score over good center enough. He isn't all enough to pull down a lot of boards, or alter enough shots like Edy did. He won't be the guy that the REALLY want to go to when they must have a basket. Now again, I hope at the end of the year I see this posts and think "man I sure was wrong about TKR!!!, Dude is an NBA lottery pick!" But I just don't see that.
How about you take it at face value and realize if he gets 3 times the touches he might well lead scoring…WITHOUT reading into it.
TKR at the 4 with a rim protecting 5 doesn't necessarily limit his touches on offense. Both Jacobson and Berg can shoot (theoretically), so just like TKR was at the top of the key passing to Edey in the post last season, I think the same thing could happen next season but the opposite- TKR is posting up and the 5 is passing in from the top of the key.
As someone with relatives very involved with the program, the word so far is for TKR to play point. I think he will be fine as long as he can stay tough
Purdue front line will be determined by who can rebound.
Burgess and Berg can both stretch the floor with the 3
You gotta understand these guys do zero research
Maturing is realizing that neither one of those dudes has ever made a three in college... and only one of them is a freshman lol. Let's slow the roll.
@@crim44the other guy is a rising sophomore who played behind the 2xNPOY
Edey could also stretch the floor! 50% from three! That team paid when they didn't game plan for the attack. Now, how many threes do you expect Berg to take this year?
Sam King is a solid Purdue reporter, keep tabs on him
Constantly casting Caleb Furst as an afterthought is getting very hard to keep ignoring.
I thought Furst was going to be a Scott Martin type player, instead he has got worse every season after a good freshman year. I hope im wrong and he has a great year next year.
He is an afterthought. He got worse every season and really should've transferred so we could've gotten someone better in the portal.
Seems like his mind is elsewhere. Nothing wrong with planning a career post basketball, but he hasn't been showing it on the court. A lot of dudes are born into massive basketball player bodies, but aren't super passionate about basketball.
Seems like is production is a direct result of how interested he is in the game. At the start of their careers, Furst seemed destined to be much better than TKR. TKR is focused on the game and surpassed him.
In the limited time we saw TKR operating as the primary post option (Illinois comes to mind) he was great. He will be on an all-conference team next year for sure. I don’t think Purdues formula changes offensively. Surround good a post scoring option with great shooters/spacing. TKR isn’t Edey but no one is.
TKR will be the starting 4 AND the leading scorer. Book it
Have to have TKR at the 4 with all the bigs. He will still get his touches and will probably be a top scorer on another good team.
I think TKR will be 3rd on the team in scoring behind Smith and Heide. TKR is good, but we're not running an offense through him. He'll be an option with someone at the 5 to purely get boards and contest the rim (whoever Painter goes with).
Meh, if you cant figure out who to start at the 5, then the actual problem is none are good enough.
This what I think about the purdue center next season ..... he aint a Kel'el Ware ..... or a malik ... heck they don't have a mgbako
Reading way too much into this, but that's what you guys do, and we all should just accept that at this point.
If you've listened to TKR the past few years, and even during his recruitment, there is no turmoil or conflict there at all. He's simply saying that if he's asked to carry the load he's capable of doing just that. If the other bigs (plus Heide) are as good as they should be, he won't be asked to carry the load to the level he alludes.
Also, Painter even discusses the 'problem' they have later in the article, basically stating he's looking forward to coaching a team with different talent and skill-sets at the 4 & 5 than the past few years.
Nothing to see here ... move along.
I someday will realize that there is an issue with having too much talent. I'm just not at that point yet.
All these guys prove is they don’t know jack about Purdue players nor Coach Painter (one even doubled down on implying Coach was a liar about Catchings). They just talk for controversy
if this was about illini players you'd be screaming housewives of champagne
I think you're taking his comment the wrong way. He's just saying he's gonna have to step up and show what he's worth. The line about the touches was to highlight that he feels he's talented. With everyone else pumping up their own skillsets, we praise them, but here we aren't? Let's be consistent gents.
Skip Bayless strikes again
Haters!!
Kanon Catchings was easily our best player, but now he’s gone… to BYU. I’m Depressed 😢
Highest rated, but not best. Braden Smith is the best player. Camden Heide is the best athlete, with or without KC
Catchings would have been maybe 5th best, at most.
@@bencook6585 Wait until you see him play for BYU this year. He’s amazing and he’s a really good person. Very disappointing!
@@nathanmurphy5736 just my opinion. Best wishes
IMHO TKR is a bit too bulky and laterally slow to play the 4 unless it’s with someone much quicker at the 5 like Caleb Furst (not sure about Berg or Jacobson yet since I haven’t seen them much at the B10 level). He would be much betterbut we have a couple of 5s already who will need minutes this season. That’s Purdue’s problem. Burgess isn’t even part of the equation lol he might redshirt
TKR can be shut down. He has NO left hand at all. If he is featured for Purdue, they are in trouble. He can play 2nd scorer support role. He is also too slow to guard smaller 4s. Play him at center with Furst at 4.
Can't stop his right either way. He can guard 1-5
@@larrycorman6465 he is going to be. year older and improved, we will see what he can do as a 4 as a junior.
Furst is going to be borderline out of the rotation again. In fact I'd bet he still doesn't play.
TKR is slightly above average, he’s not bad. Not great either.
Cuz you haven’t seen him be the engine of the team (although co starring this year with Braden Smith)…
He took over in that Illinois game… he was dominant vs Utah State in the tournament… in his VERY limited touches - he’s been amazing. Watch what he does this year
I like trey but u can tell hes not athletic and wasnt consistant shooting ball which undersized center u have to b able 2 do @AngryBoilerFan
@@AngryBoilerFan have you seen him be the engine of the team either ?
@@Jmoney21694 he’s not bad
@@Jmoney21694 you really do not. PJ Hall shot 31% from 3 this year and he’s an inch shorter and less athletic than Trey. Sure, Trey didn’t put up as many 3’s a game as PJ did but - Trey is amazing in the paint, he doesn’t need to be a great shooter. Have you not seen what he did to Dickinson his freshman year?? To Steven Crowl??? To Filipowski and Derek Lively?? The kid is a fucking bucket, just hasn’t been given the opportunity to take a large volume of shots due to oh yeah PLAYING THE SAME POSITION AS THE 2x NPOY
Know you guys are trying to grow viewership but you're talking up a problem that doesn't exist. Purdue will have one of the most versatile teams in the country next year and they'll all be happy campers. Last year was all about Zach Edey and rightfully so. Next year they will be able to play much more to the opposing team's weakness on defense. IMO, losing Catchings was no great loss. Great potential, yes. Potential rotten apple in the barrel, yes. Paint saw him for what he was and let him go. We now have 12 TEAM players who saw success last year and want to do it again.
This is an absolute nothingburger.
You guys should give up talking about Purdue. You just don’t really have a clue. Are you that clueless that you actually believe TKR was trying to say he was as good as Edey? Just stop!
Not a TKR fan Id rather see Furst a more fluid player
Furst blows chunks
As somebody who just got speaking up for Furst, this is an insane take.
Berg can't stretch the floor??? Looks pretty good here in his workouts. ua-cam.com/video/tQ-pzoeWvUo/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
This definitely screams of its late June and we need some Purdue fan engagement. Well apparently it worked on me. Don’t just take a quote out of context. Watch the video. Sounds you guys have no idea who TKR is. Questioning TKR over Steven crowl is objectively hilarious. Back I go to not watching the content for a bit 🥱
I can't believe the 7'4 goon Edey got drafted that high. He will out of league in less than 5 years.