Pro Editor Tries Premiere For The First Time
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
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My entire career I've been exclusively using Apple's Final Cut Pro X. However I need to be able to also use Adobe Premiere Pro for some new clients. Can I easily transfer my skills on FCPX to Adobe? Lets find out...
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0:00 INTRO
1:02 CHALLENGE START
1:56 HOW TO CUT
2:41 I ALREADY HATE IT
3:07 HOW TO FIND CLIPS
3:44 THE SLIP TOOL
4:30 AUDIO ENVELOPES
4:52 I FORGOT HOW TO CUT
5:39 SCALE ISSUES
6:13 SPEED RAMPING
7:01 NO MAGNETIC TIMELINE?
7:26 GIVING UP
7:39 SKILLSHARE
8:28 I GOT IT
8:52 RESULT
10:01 CONCLUSION - Розваги
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A more fair comparison: have a proficient Premiere user edit alongside you as you edit in Final Cut. Same sequence, different program, same level of editing experience
I agree! Going to do that for a next video.
@@HillierSmith have Mack. Airrack's editor next to you if possible. He should be a PP user
@@HillierSmith include a three way between final cut pro, davinci resolve, and adobe premiere!
@@HillierSmith If you ever need a Premiere user… who is also English… and edits big projects for people with much bigger followings than him. Right here 😂 ✋🏻
Have Kon!
It’s actually triggering to watch this as an Adobe Premiere Pro editor, because you say things like “in final cut you can to this…” when you can do the exact same things in premiere, but it’s just different way to do it hahah
Unfortunately all videos like this have that issue z I have 4 years of experience in each app and honestly I haven’t found a function that I can’t do in either one. Right now I’m using final cut just because it’s faster, but you can easily switch to premiere and do the same thing. It’s up to preference for 99% of cases
Exactly @@branpod
He did talk about it in the ending
Taste the engagement.
Hayden deftly puts his sponsorship right in the thick of it.
Something that's huge is the fact that all Adobe programs are compatible with each other. You can make an image in Photoshop, animate it in After Effects and then add that clip to a Premier file... All while still being able to make changes to any of those files that automatically update to all the projects that it's being used in.
That's something which I love about Adobe apps
You can add photoshop files directly into DaVinci Resolve as well. It has integrated compositing and motion graphics software and a very powerful DAW, all for free.
It's also a limitation, they limit what their software can do in order to force you to use other software. For example the way masking works in Premiere should be illegal
@@mopolo just learn.
@@SmokingOnTop10s tf does that have to do with anything
You can use FIT TO FRAME to scale the 1080 clip up to 4k.... not as elegant as FCPX doing it automatically - but its faster than what you were doing.
theres a setting that automatically does it, Preferences > Media > Default Media Scaline
@@zimhax Useful to know
@@zimhax thank you!
Notable tools I STAND BY, all of which are all viewable/customizable through keyboard shortcuts panel:
- Rate Stretch (slows / speeds clip) - I use this in conjunction with Optical Flow, which smooths back the choppy, slowed down clip.
- Shuttle Right (speeds up playback)
- Nest
- Export Frame
- Render Effects in Work Area
- Add Marker
- Track Select Forward (selects all clip past your cursor in the timeline)
- Render Audio (Audio with lots of effects can slow down timeline playback)
- Apply Audio Transition
^^
Ayyyy weird seeing BrodieTV here
This is me trying to understand how to use Final Cut.
Lmao, can relate
I'm a begginer with a PC. I have worked with Davinci resolve (free) and premier pro. And I like Davinci way better.
@@gustavoje10 Cool. I personally prefer Premiere, but I bet Davinci is very good as well.
I don’t see how fcp I learned in 5 mins premiere took me some research
@@seriouzfilmz9397 Opposite for me, lol
The SMOOTHNESS from project to sponser was just 👌
I hate it when a sponsors interrupts a video, so this was very important to me.
@@HillierSmith time stamp ruined this for me sadly :(
@@HillierSmith fam you became lightning McQueen after watching skillshare 😂
Smoother than when I try to run premiere at more the 1/4 hahahah
Love to see your perspective on Davinci Resolve next, lots keep recommending it.
and filmora!
@@fireslime Never heard of that, what are their usps?
@@yogapaule its a free editing app which is extremely simple! and has so many transitions, animations and so much more
I hope he doesn't stuck on the cut page or what even worse, the fusion page 😂😂
It's the best!! #RESOLVE
Just jumped ship from Premiere Pro to Final Cut Pro and that was the best decision I've made! Premiere has a lot of unresolved issues, mostly with performance and stability. Paying monthly for constant fear of loosing hours of work, not being able to edit or render the video because of stupid errors is just unacceptable for me.
this was simulataneously painful and eye opening for me. I use premiere on a very basic level for a lot of my vids, and for some reason I never realized i for in and o for out, that will save me a ton of time. On the other hand watching you manually typing in 200 for scale in the effects panel instead of using set to frame size... simply put, "oof"
HAHA I'm the opposite -- I'm quite proficient with I and O, but after 2 years of using premiere, I didn't know about set to frame hahahahah
@@CynicalDuchess Same here
I’ve used premiere for about 2 years and love it. I think that there’s no right or wrong editing software, just how efficient you are with the tools you’re given and how efficient you are. Definitely a great video!
I love the keyframing capabilities of premiere and also the marketplace for plugins for it. While finalcut does have a good marketplace for plugins as well, sometimes it can feel like having a glass ceiling. But that magnetic timeline really does make you focus more on the “flow” of the ideas.
I literally had the same feeling when i first tried my hands on Premiere Pro. I gave up on that and went on to use Final Cut Pro X. Final Cut Pro is so easy to understand and simpler to get along. Happy with FCPX! 😇
I was actually really looking forward to a video exactly like this from you!
Thank you for your honesty at the end. Great video!
It was very interesting as a long time Premiere user to get an insight into Final Cut Pro. And I have to admit, I think there are some aspects of Final Cut Pro that are better than Premiere Pro. I don't think Premiere on its own is necessarily better. But what makes Premiere so unique is how it interoperates with all the other programs of the Adobe Creative Cloud.
its 30$ a month
You should try DaVinci resolve, youll never go back. I was an adobe user, mainly AE, Audition, Premiere and photoshop.
I now only use Davinci (free version, its pretty much very complete) and photoshop, and my workflow is just so much faster.
loving the videos!
Love your video bro! Thank you! 💪💪💪
Great subject! Love it.
it's great to see you love doing what you do
I use FCP but I only started during lockdown No.1 in the UK and that was using iMovie, it was a logical step. I know nothing else soTHIS IS A GREAT IDEA FOR A VID... Loved it!
another great video! thanks hayden!
Literally couldn’t have come at a better time, I swear I was searching this up yesterday. And of all people for you to make this video is crazy haha
Mack (airrack's editor) is a premiere pro editor, so we need a Hayden Vs Mack Pr Vs FCP editing battle!!
Just re-watching this video for the third time, so good!
This is a PHENOMENAL VIDEO! Best AD Read ever also
Love this!
The way he shifted from video to sponsor and then back to video was🔥🔥✨! That was super cool! It didn't felt like the sponsor interrupted the video, it felt like the sponsor was made for this video! I mean the smoothness was soo clean! Great job bro!🙌🏻🙌🏻
insane, I missed this notification I even have the bell on but It wasn't pushed out to me, I was here because of twitter. anyways this helps me alot because I've used Final Cut Pro x, I've considered premier, and currently using iMovie/luma fusion to edit my UA-cam videos/ tiktoks so maybe I'll take the leap into something new! much love to you always Hayden! dont worry about feeling it flopped, the people that needed to see it, will go find it. you're not for everyone, you're limited edition :D
That was the smoothest ad segment I have ever witnessed! I didn't know it was a sponsored segment until you said to click a link.
This is amazing content!
I frikin needed dis
A couple months ago I watch this video and it began to show me that it was time to move on from Premiere Pro after years of being on Premiere Pro. As a Windows user, I switched to Davinci Resolve (which I find to be more like Final Cut). Premiere felt clunky and outdated, it crashed frequently for me and when trying to edit in a fashion similar to you with constant L and J cuts, it was absolute hell to make even the smallest of tweaks. I'm happy to now be a member of the Resolve gang!
In my experience, FCPX is leagues faster than Premiere. However, recently, I've switched over to using Davinci Resolve for most of our editing projects. There's a couple reasons we've done this, primarily because most of our projects can get very large, and FCPX starts to die on extremely large projects. Would love to see you do this same thing in Davinci Resolve. A word of warning: it's a complicated beast lol. Great video!
Great vid bro 🔥
Idk if anyone else said this, but Taran Van Hemert, the editor for linus tech tips, made a very interesting video about his workflow in premiere. It's a 4 hour long video but it shows the full process of him editing a video and how he made premiere work far more efficiently using third party programs (mainly AHK).
Would you say that if Adobe premiere needs all these plugins to be efficient…it isn’t really efficient?
@@VinceVintage I would say that Premiere Pro isn't as efficient as it could be, however Tarans Mods to Premiere are mainly for productivity Freaks.
For instance, one of his ahk scripts automatically mouses over to the scale Text and holds the left Mousebutton until he releases the key and put the Cusor where it originally was. Or tasks which are always the same for the LTT editing Process. I recall that he has a script which automatically applies Gain, sets both the left and the Right Channels to mono and applies a basic Color Correction all within 2 Seconds. And that is all that he needs before doing the rough Cut of the A-Roll
Theese are all mainly small automations of repeating tasks, which you would find in any other Program.
Team Final Cut dawg 🔥💪🏽
I love how you try these other programs just to improve your knowledge on each type of software!
It is actually advantageous to be fluent in multiple softwares as an editor and I am currently working on being more fluent in Premiere.
@@HillierSmith next Time you should do this but with a free editing software and see which one is better!
When I first started I was like F I'm quiting premier pro, buy kept going and still learning every day! Love watching your editing videos 📹
Fun vid, also a nostalgia trip on learning how to edit in Premiere (though it was my first editor). The biggest tips for me:
-Set a key short for ripple edit from playhead position to beginning of clip (emulates magnetic timeline)
-Do the same as above but for end of clip (emulates magnetic timeline)
These two alone saved me a ton of time, although I have to lock the other tracks (e.g. BGM) to keep ripple edit form cutting *everything*
-To size a clip, right click the clip and select "Scale to frame size" (extra clicks for sure, though)
-When I adjust clip speed I right click the clip and choose speed/duration, there's a checkbox for ripple edit which again does the magnetic timeline bit...though this approach may not be the best for ramping speed...I'm still learning too.
Like several of your viewers mentioned, I'd be interested to see your thoughts on Da Vinci Resolve, it's on my "to-try" list as well. Have a good one!
This is a gold fkn video i loved it
You had some really great insights as to features I would love to have in premiere. I have binded ripple-delete backwards and forwards in premiere to "Q" and "W" and that saves me loads of time when I edit.
PLUS! The moment you start playing with after effects and can do both Premiere and AE it get's really, really hard to go back to another NLE..
I do both compositing and editing and the flexibility I have when I have to change some motiongraphic-stuff is just next level in premiere when I work with shared compositions.
Premieres biggest problems imo is bugs and performance..
Helpful tip: About the 1080p video that doesn't fit to a 4k project, you can right-click the clip and click "set to frame size", not the "scale to frame size". So when you "set to frame size" the video size matches the 4k video size and the scale property (in effect controls) will remain at 100%. The "scale to frame size" however does the same time except it uses the scale property and doesn't maintain the original resolution.
It's crazy how much I learned watching you try and use it for the first time.
This video is came in my homepage almost 20 times.😂 And finally clicked it
thank you for being the someone that goes against the narrative of “Industry standard” i use and love fcpx and think there’s a lot of easy to use features (still wish somethings would change). can’t wait for the next video with a more even and far comparison on which is better (i’m gunning for fcp haha)
me still editing in sony vegas watching this video: 😐
Glad to see that Hillier is a FCP user. So many famous editors talk about Adobe and FCP and they're not very kind to FCP users. Finally, I'm a BIG fan of the pricing model of FCP and how intuitive it is. I'm sticking with FCP for now.
What a video.. the final cut was so amazing. I learned something.
Most of the problems you had would be easily solved by personalizing your editing tools. Even the scale issue you had, there’s a way of changing that automatically on settings so it fits by itself (fit to scale). And that’s the beauty of Premiere. It’s really interchangeable and customizable
I think what it really comes down is it’s like shooting a camera with manual settings (premiere) versus auto settings (fcpx). I feel for UA-cam the magnetic timeline, the instant scale and auto sped functions, they’re what you need. But when editing something huge like a feature where you want all that instant manual control, I love Premiere.
I’m going to probably do the reverse video of this someday.
For the audio envelopes, the clip thumbnails can show in the timeline if you make the track taller by dragging it; then you have both the thumbnails and waveforms. I know it's not really the same, but it's workable
Also, Q and W make ripple cuts (the equivalent to alt ] and [ )
5:48 in your settings you can turn on “set to frame size” and it will automatically do that for you. I always have it on that setting
aprecciate the honest final answer
To slow a clip down, right click on it and choose "Speed and duration". A small window will pop up, where you can fine tune the speed % to what you want, and also choose things like if you want the audio pitch to go down with the speed, or if you want to use frame blend or optical flow (Cor clips you slow down beyond the amount of frames per second, so you don't have repeating frames)
4 mins in and I love this video so much as I'm a clumsy Premiere user and it's teaching me stuff I was ignorant of. Would you consider setting this challenge in reverse to a pro editor who uses Premiere? Then if you both worked on a new piece together and taught each other? Just dumb ideas of stuff I'd love to see. Great work, keep it up!
Nice redemption at the end!
INSANE!!!
Siiike video!
Premiere is more manual, which is better for some editoris because of the fine-tuning aspect of it. The automatic resolution fill and the magnetic timeline could be something that would slow down a different editor that would like it a certain way. For example, if you'd like to replace a clip that is in sync with the sound without having to adjust it a few times to be the exact length of the video that was there before, Premiere keeps the space of the previous video, which you can just fill up with the replacement video.
omg I love your video hahahah thank you!!! you answered to my q :P
Thanks for the great vid!
Thanks for watching, mate!
@@HillierSmith You’re welcome! You have great videos!
I love Premiere because how it works with other Adobe products , for example Photoshop, After effects and Audition. I’m looking forward for the next video by u with Premiere❤️
Will follow your journey! :)
I enjoyed the video :) I just got final cut yesterday btw
This was so painful to watch 🥲
Literally every problem you had with premiere was actually you not knowing how to use it 😃😃😃
lol ik
Speedramp in Premiere SUCKS!
That was the point of this video I believe. What is easier to get into. What has more of learning curve, etc etc
I believe that it doesn't matter what editing software you use. I traditionally use Premiere but a client wanted me to use DaVinci which is a good editing software but I now understand your struggle of trying a different software.
Was this video of you editing on premiere pro, edited on final cut or premiere
For adjusting the the speed, right click (or whatever the alternative is for mac) on the clip to change speed
Changing keuboard shortcuts is very important! And when u have macros and stuff premiere feels just so good
Haha nice vid ! I had the same feeling working on Avid Media Composer for thé first time recently. My brain was overheating 😅
J, K, L, W, Q, Ctrl+K, Shift+Backspace are my go-to keys.
When I first learned this I was confused then I just kept playing around with it!!! And to me it’s a second nature!!!
Thing I love about Premiere is that you can customize it. it even has a keyboard preset for final cut pro.
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resolve has a final cut like section as well as a premiere type editing section
And it's FREE for us plebs.
You Doing well bro!
Thanks!
I've used and am proficient in both but not a pro or anything. Of course things are done kind of differently but I honestly couldn't pick "the better one". I think it is just a matter of preference honestly, or which one you're more used to, because they're both great quality softwares. But I do love how After Effects, Photoshop and Premiere are so easy to use together, it makes the process so much more streamlined. Kind of like using an iPhone when you have a Mac.
Customizations I'd done for my Premiere Pro :
1.Set the default of dragging a clips head or tail into ripple-trim rather then a trim
2.Q and W for ripple-trim to the head or to the end
Just a few thing only but it improves my process so much
one of the greatest ad transitions of all time
In the thumbnail, under the “which is better”, the lines on your short make it look like “lol”
The keyboard short cuts are powerful in Premiere. Check out the ripple edit before and after short cuts. If I press Q it deletes everything before the playhead W deletes everything after, moving the who timeliness to fill that space. Makes editing so fast.
You can’t compare 2 editing software with each other when you’re highly experienced with one of them. It’s just simply unfair
Mate the video is called "Final Cut User Tries Premiere for the First Time". Does what it says on the tin.
@@HillierSmith Iknow, but whenever you don’t know how to do a specific thing for the first time your seeing it as a bad thing. But that has nothing to do with the program itself, but with how experienced the user is with it
@@AaronDavidWillems I'm guessing you skipped the ending of the video
@@im_bchen Rolls eyes!
@@HillierSmith Video title says: Final Cut VS Premiere | WHICH IS BETTER?
I really like your music choices Hayden. Where do you get your music from?
i just started editing with a mac and im using imovie until i can afford final cut and editing on a mac from windows is so much better. im excited to soon make the move to final cut!
It is interpret footage to slow a 60 or whatever fps to whatever fps you want. By right clicking in project manager
WHAT A VID! Your 2 hours in Premier are much better than my 200🤣🤣
Hi. I really like your videos and Im very thankful for all your ideas on editing. Anyway, I want to ask. Do you studied editing or learned by yourself?
do part 2 pls i found this very interesting
This is actually brilliant as an ad for Skillshare
Thank you Hayden bro man! Raza :!
Wantching you edit here is making me laugh harder then hell man I’m going to have to try final cut now
This is me in Divinchi resolve… I’ve been using Premier since 2003 lol. It’s comfortable and I know it inside and out… divinchi is great if you are on a budget or it’s comfortable to use for you. The best software is the one you know how to use lol. I will continue to try and learn DR but I won’t be switching over anytime soon. The node system is a little much. More complicated than it needs to be. But I understand what they are trying to do.
Love your work I take notes on All your videos and appreciate all your work.. maybe not taking notes from this video.. but still 😂
Quick question HillerSmith: When you're adding the texts on screen with the VCR font, is the black background attached to the text or you have to manually do both? Like you add text and then the background underneath the text because that's what I have to do on Vegas Pro.
I'm loving your videos! They really give perspective on how to become a better video creator. But I can't pick your accent; are you British? New Zelander? Aussie?
7:24 you can highlight the black space and press delete. once you get used to it you learn to automatically do it very fast
Excellent. Thank you for that. Do you have a reccomoneded source for learning final cut?
A lot is to do with what you know - there are editors I can't wean off Avid. Premier Pro BTW has a way to map all the shortcuts straight from Final Cut which is an instant boost for all FCP users moving to Premier Pro.I switched to Adobe when FCP (11?) was discontinued because I like the control of two screens. The latest AI transcription and word match in Premiere Pro is a game changer for editing interview.