They do automatically track, but from the distances they were at, the tracking loses people pretty easily, so you weren't entirely wrong. I also would have been tempted (as a drone operator myself) to just get cool shots like you had said rather than focusing on establishing shots. Good stuff Hillier, maybe one day I'll get to your level!
We did use the Skydio drones (auto tracking) for some coverage but the main drone shots used in the video were remotely controlled by us! Thanks for all the support! - DPEditors
About the Logo delay: A years-long Dude Perfect viewer, I've come to expect the title card. Its not bad, just part of Dude Perfect's brand. Their fanbase is massive and hangs on all of their videos. I don't expect they loose any die-hard viewers with that. Also, because DP's videos are so energetic and 'bouncy', the title card can be interpreted as the final audience "breath" before the video. The calm before the storm, the "buckle up" moment, the "hold on to your hats."
The 8 second logo for me is perfect. In that 8 seconds i relaxed and i changed how i sat in my chair without worring of missing something on the screen because i know its the logo i have seen many times
Personally, I feel that the intro is very original and gives us the dude perfect vibe! Which makes us feel at home in a sense and give us abit of satisfaction when we watch the video!
LOL, on three to four of your videos I thought to myself "These are packed with useful info, I am gonna add this to a specific playlist", then realized that every single video you put out is a gem, so it wasn't necessary, as all I need to do is remember your channel name. One of the best channels on YT, by far. Keep up the good work man. Also, no-go on the 8 second logo that you were asking about in the video. Honestly, no intro, or an intro that is 1-3 seconds is ideal. You want them to see who you are, and remember it, but not be bogged down by the time it takes to deliver that information.
I feel like there's no difference by adding or not adding logo, But they have to,because that 8 second logo is the signature of their video, You don't feel the importance of logo because you're watching their video for the first time but it breaks the heart of the fans who have been following then from long time
as a youtuber , i fell in love with dude perfect based off of the music they use! perfect example being their documentary! who ever chooses their is extremely good at his/her job!! David dobrik is also another perfect choice for choosing great music to match the moment in the video and You as well Hillier!! you do an amazing job! and i am learning a lot everyday !!! i dont buy online courses but yours is the one i would pay for if i could afford it!! thank you for making these videos bc they help me a lot as a creator!!
When the music cuts out, its also the reveal within the stiry of the truce. The audience knew, but the characters did not, making it a somber realization for yellow
Dude, you're a freaking legend man! You're literally learning all the in depth/ advanced tips to make an edit perfect. Everyone can make tutorials on how to edit with a certain program but the way you understand and explain how to edit, why some things work and don't is freaking good man. Keep doing these kinda vids, I freaking love them!
@@HillierSmith your so up in my trust that i didnt even check whats the book about and bought it instantly, only after i ordered i checked the discription
I genuinely enjoy these videos so much because even tho I'm not even close to being on a level near of yours. I truly love everything that goes on behind the editing and storytelling in the process of creating a youtube video and I know one day in the future ill be able to actually sit down in a room with you and nerd out about all these things. keep going with these videos they are important in so many ways that you wouldn't know
You’ve giving me so many “cookies” of different takes of other UA-camrs, I am now going to have to go back and rewatch those videos. You have two thumbs up from me. I love that you have created a niche and I am engaged. I’m learning so much, thanks.
Excellent breakdown! Great points about the geography/location settings and characters. Surprised you didn't go crazy at the record scratch cut in the music at 11:13 :P
Wow I am so glad I found you! I’m not just saying this to be whatever, you actually make sense when you are talking about this stuff. Other people I watch are so confusing and you aren’t. Good job
Such a great breakdown, I always try to learn more about WTF I am doing. DP's editing is amazing, but as much as the logo is amazing for DP, I agree with the initial thoughts. Don't need it.
Our opinion on the logo - it establishes and builds the brand. Yes, audience retention is important and the video itself would have been better without it. In the bigger picture, they're trying to build loyalty to their brand over any one particular video concept. But we could be wrong! Thanks for the breakdown. Gives us plenty of great ideas!
Just found your channel today and loving it whilst learning so much, so thank you! I actually like the 8 second logo, for me it built more excitement by allowing me to reflect on what I've already seen, and start to think about what is to come, which knowing Dude Perfect, will be awesome.
Would you be willing to create a longer video breaking down the editing and camera work of kinetic energy? The bit you left in Peter McKinnon's video left me craving more!
The logo bit does disengage us from the video but I will still watch it cause its Dude Perfect. I personally think it's content of my interest so I will watch it nevertheless. However, the rhythm should not be broken. If one is watching Dude Perfect for the first time, they may click off. I have seen your videos before through which I have realized how important rhythm is in a video. They could have shortened that logo bit or the title card so it fits perfectly in the beat and momentum.
You deserve more subscribers than Logan Paul! The way you understand and interpret editing is truly genius and as a growing editor myself, your thoughts/breakdowns are priceless!
What I almost always do in my editing is leave a breathing space. It's always shorter than the hyped parts but I just kind of feel like "okay that section is filled with hype, let me let them breathe a little" So yeah I think the logo was pretty good idea. Because with that hype, you almost start breathing faster and your heart speeds up so you need to have like checkpoints to slow down every now and then
Personally, I love the intro, it gives you an intermission and allows you to get excited about what's coming next. Kind of like standing on the edge of a plane you are about to skydive out of. Also the sick animations of the intro make it even better.
Dude these videos are so sick. I just started to dip my toes into making youtube videos this year and I can already think of so many areas to improve my editing/storytelling from my next video.
I've been studying graphic design and obviously, when it comes to the logo it means the brand identity, well to summarize things up after so much hype and showing the magnificence of the settings it's time to show that here we are again its showtime, to express that roll your identity of who your group is and that's the logo sequence, they also did a great job of 3d animation of logo it looks intriguing for the eyes of new watchers but for old watchers, the logo sequence is like "yeah it's fucking dude perfect time", plus it's ok because they didn't cut the momentum by still playing the upbeat song so I actually think that placing logo sequence there is also strategic.
I think better with it. Just like how all tv shows have the into. They are like a tv show in how people tune in every week expecting the same result they had the last time. People love familiarity. With a twist. Plus brand recognition. For me it’s not just a video it’s a business asset. That’s at least what I think coming from an advertising background and spending around a million a month in ads. Great video, always love watching them 👏👏👏
This stuff is sooooooo damn helpful! Thank you so much. Do you have any idea how to implement those tips into tutorials? I have a tutorial channel and wonder how I can make them more interesting. Greetings Erik
can you make a video where you react to a video of yours like this one?.. like a editor reaction inception? and tell us what your thought process was like editing this?
Hey man! Don't have time to watch yet, but will later tonight. Just wanted hope on real quick to tell you I love the content man. Such a cool way to get this info. I'm working hard to figure out things like sound design and I really appreciate your input. Keep the videos coming my friend. 👊😎 cheers!
As someone who is trying to learn editing and trying to make my own videos engaging etc. This video was incredibly interesting and I feel like has given me value. Great work! Will be checking your other stuff out too!
I agree with you that the logo feels a little out of place, but at the same time it’s channel branding so seeing it probably helps with recognition of who they are to new viewers. Great video!
@@HillierSmith I really want to see a NO RECORD SCRATCH rap video/song. I literally used a record scratch the day I saw the video of yours saying not to use them :)
DP has one of the best audience retentions on the platform, can compete with dobrik and casey n. They're audience also is very strong and skews younger. So the Logo gives a break to engage the audience 2 more times as a build up. Also they way they explain the video sequence has been a standard of DP. It creates more build up instead of a unknown or hesitated surprise in middle or end. Its all genuine action because the have the same energy IRL with the fans they meet. Same guys on and off camera. They also are consistently on schedule with what day they post to the exact minute so everyone knows exactly when they can sit and watch with by themselves or with the family. Every one of those guys has a story background which helps explain the storyline of every video. finally the storytelling in sequence they do to wrap up past videos brings everything together for an exciting X minute video you can't click off.
I would say the 8 second logo scene gives the viewer a chance to slow down and comprehend the beginning and it doesn’t just cut right into the challenge
Holy cow, amazing breakdown! This makes me think SO much more critically about the way I edit. Also I fully agree that the #DPeditors need a raise for thier drone coverage!
I think if their logo was just a still image that faded in and out you would be 100% correct. But because the logo moves, rips, and tears it works for them. Its a very active logo for a very active channel. Also I would love a break down of a Corridor Digital video!
I think the intro makes you feel like you’re at home with family. Matt Carickar (might be spelled wrong) does an outro on Demolition Ranch and a different one on Off The Ranch that replays fun times and when he got an intro for Off The Ranch i was like, cool.
I have an editing class! Sign up here: hayden-hillier-smith.mykajabi.com/edit-like-an-artist
Hey! Turns out they had drones that were automatically tracking them, thank you for the correction!
Give the automatic tracking drones a raise?
They do automatically track, but from the distances they were at, the tracking loses people pretty easily, so you weren't entirely wrong. I also would have been tempted (as a drone operator myself) to just get cool shots like you had said rather than focusing on establishing shots. Good stuff Hillier, maybe one day I'll get to your level!
You should react to a morgz video
We did use the Skydio drones (auto tracking) for some coverage but the main drone shots used in the video were remotely controlled by us!
Thanks for all the support! - DPEditors
Oh hahaha yes mine does this too, it’s called active track. Either way though they did awesome
Hey Hillier thanks for these videos, you are super enjoyable to watch. And the gems you drop are from out of this world
frictionless editing
OH! I LOVE that phrase, "Frictionless editing". I'm gonna use that in the future.
n a s t y g r e e n
@@HillierSmith react to his editing
@@HillierSmith Honestly, I just like the idea of you saying that in a video lol. I feel like it would fit with your accent so flawlessly.
Kody Ko liked that
The 8 second logo is perfect for me as a viewer. Ive watched them for years and hearing Tyler say “Dude Perfect” in the intro is music to my ears!
Its been branded very well
I thought it was the editor who says it, no?
About the Logo delay: A years-long Dude Perfect viewer, I've come to expect the title card. Its not bad, just part of Dude Perfect's brand. Their fanbase is massive and hangs on all of their videos. I don't expect they loose any die-hard viewers with that. Also, because DP's videos are so energetic and 'bouncy', the title card can be interpreted as the final audience "breath" before the video. The calm before the storm, the "buckle up" moment, the "hold on to your hats."
could this be why there losing some UA-cam recommendation push? like only viewers watching and no one new
I agree
@@AntsManitoba Good point, they do grow though, and have an ungodly large amount of subscribers, topping 50 million or something like that.
yes i thought the same just coulden't find words for it
well said
The only content creator I sit through premiere countdowns for.
As soon as I saw premiere I clicked so fast haha
Lucky for us, Premieres are changing soon and we get to choose themes, and also jump straight to them from live streams.
@@GarrettMusic1 every time haha
Ahhhh man you’re not the only one 😂😂
Honestly the most useful editing tutorial videos I’ve ever watched + I love the British accent ❤️
That’s so true !
I am so grateful for hayden and his content, has helped so much
british accents :(
Coz you're both gays
啊哈，酷～～～
The 8 second logo for me is perfect. In that 8 seconds i relaxed and i changed how i sat in my chair without worring of missing something on the screen because i know its the logo i have seen many times
Personally, I feel that the intro is very original and gives us the dude perfect vibe! Which makes us feel at home in a sense and give us abit of satisfaction when we watch the video!
Yes the at home feeling describes it perfectly
its amazing how much efffort goes into the videos we see everyday.
LOL, on three to four of your videos I thought to myself "These are packed with useful info, I am gonna add this to a specific playlist", then realized that every single video you put out is a gem, so it wasn't necessary, as all I need to do is remember your channel name. One of the best channels on YT, by far. Keep up the good work man.
Also, no-go on the 8 second logo that you were asking about in the video. Honestly, no intro, or an intro that is 1-3 seconds is ideal. You want them to see who you are, and remember it, but not be bogged down by the time it takes to deliver that information.
Before I found you, I didn’t now that I’m interested in that kind of stuff. Now I love it
I feel like there's no difference by adding or not adding logo,
But they have to,because that 8 second logo is the signature of their video,
You don't feel the importance of logo because you're watching their video for the first time but it breaks the heart of the fans who have been following then from long time
That is true, most of their audience are long time fans
Someone give this guy 100k ASAP !! just binge watched like all his videos.......learnt more than ever bout editing
as a youtuber , i fell in love with dude perfect based off of the music they use! perfect example being their documentary! who ever chooses their is extremely good at his/her job!! David dobrik is also another perfect choice for choosing great music to match the moment in the video and You as well Hillier!! you do an amazing job! and i am learning a lot everyday !!! i dont buy online courses but yours is the one i would pay for if i could afford it!! thank you for making these videos bc they help me a lot as a creator!!
Made it to another premiere!!! It's so amazing seeing your channel grow, you're just 23k shy from 100k!!! MUCH LOVE HAYDEN!
how amazing! this guy is amazing
Great to chat with you in the chat before it went live.
When the music cuts out, its also the reveal within the stiry of the truce. The audience knew, but the characters did not, making it a somber realization for yellow
Dude, you're a freaking legend man! You're literally learning all the in depth/ advanced tips to make an edit perfect. Everyone can make tutorials on how to edit with a certain program but the way you understand and explain how to edit, why some things work and don't is freaking good man. Keep doing these kinda vids, I freaking love them!
suprised its free in the first place
@@maddoxsmith4611 he's gonna come out with a paid course and I bet a lot of people are gonna buy it since he gave a lot of value for free already
Anyone have some good book recommendations to dive in deeper into editing for better audience retention/for UA-cam?
In The Blink of an Eye by Walter Murch taught me a lot!
I'm currently reading "The Art of the Cut" by Steve Hullfish and it's incredibly insightful.
Your editing has changed my videos Hayden! Thank you!
@@HillierSmith your so up in my trust that i didnt even check whats the book about and bought it instantly,
only after i ordered i checked the discription
@@austinflowers3382 What is your channel? I would like to see what some other people who get tips from Hayden come up with in their editing.
I genuinely enjoy these videos so much because even tho I'm not even close to being on a level near of yours. I truly love everything that goes on behind the editing and storytelling in the process of creating a youtube video and I know one day in the future ill be able to actually sit down in a room with you and nerd out about all these things. keep going with these videos they are important in so many ways that you wouldn't know
I love how he keeps calling them this guy, that guy, those twins
Yeah it’s hilarious 😂😂
Tall Guy, Beard, Twins, Purple Hoser!
You’ve giving me so many “cookies” of different takes of other UA-camrs, I am now going to have to go back and rewatch those videos. You have two thumbs up from me. I love that you have created a niche and I am engaged. I’m learning so much, thanks.
Dang chad and Tim really out did them selves if there getting a shout out from you!
Excellent breakdown! Great points about the geography/location settings and characters. Surprised you didn't go crazy at the record scratch cut in the music at 11:13 :P
I ABSOLUTELY love that you have this UA-cam Channel, Hayden!!! Thank you.
Wow I am so glad I found you! I’m not just saying this to be whatever, you actually make sense when you are talking about this stuff. Other people I watch are so confusing and you aren’t. Good job
Well done on the Pokémon video, one of the best pieces of content this year
I liked the logo placement, plus the animation is badass
Dude, im loving your videos! I am learning a lot to make my youtube videos better. Thank you!
Thank you so much Hillier I watched your whole channel today. one of the only people ive put the bell on for.... Literally THE editing god
Such a great breakdown, I always try to learn more about WTF I am doing. DP's editing is amazing, but as much as the logo is amazing for DP, I agree with the initial thoughts. Don't need it.
you r insane bro....thnx for giving most expensive knowledge...
thank you is not a enough word to say thank you.
The best breakdown of a youtube video of all time dude ❤😍
Our opinion on the logo - it establishes and builds the brand. Yes, audience retention is important and the video itself would have been better without it. In the bigger picture, they're trying to build loyalty to their brand over any one particular video concept. But we could be wrong! Thanks for the breakdown. Gives us plenty of great ideas!
Your videos are so good! They are helping me getting better in editing so please continue with this!
Just found your channel today and loving it whilst learning so much, so thank you!
I actually like the 8 second logo, for me it built more excitement by allowing me to reflect on what I've already seen, and start to think about what is to come, which knowing Dude Perfect, will be awesome.
Would you be willing to create a longer video breaking down the editing and camera work of kinetic energy? The bit you left in Peter McKinnon's video left me craving more!
Tbh the most mindblowing thing about this video is you laughing about the record scratch in 11:15 😂
The logo bit does disengage us from the video but I will still watch it cause its Dude Perfect. I personally think it's content of my interest so I will watch it nevertheless. However, the rhythm should not be broken. If one is watching Dude Perfect for the first time, they may click off. I have seen your videos before through which I have realized how important rhythm is in a video. They could have shortened that logo bit or the title card so it fits perfectly in the beat and momentum.
They have a special drone which can automatically follow a device and the 5 players have such a devices. (They show it in the bts video)
As usual so insightful. Your channel is quickly becoming one of my favourites.
I just started watching your videos and they are amazing, your videos are very helpful
so close to 100 k mannn
happy to say i watched you grow
Great analysis! Flawless editing
You deserve more subscribers than Logan Paul! The way you understand and interpret editing is truly genius and as a growing editor myself, your thoughts/breakdowns are priceless!
dude this breakdown was great I learn so much from your vids!
I love how you science the hell out of this. What a great breakdown - thank you! I wonder how many of these decisions were intentional vs intuitive.
6:00 Damn i didn’t realised that when i watched the video before. Crazy!
What I almost always do in my editing is leave a breathing space. It's always shorter than the hyped parts but I just kind of feel like "okay that section is filled with hype, let me let them breathe a little"
So yeah I think the logo was pretty good idea. Because with that hype, you almost start breathing faster and your heart speeds up so you need to have like checkpoints to slow down every now and then
Personally, I love the intro, it gives you an intermission and allows you to get excited about what's coming next. Kind of like standing on the edge of a plane you are about to skydive out of. Also the sick animations of the intro make it even better.
At 11:12 you complimented their record scratch... Yet hated on Airrack and Macks record scratch lol
I found your channel like 5 minutes ago and subscribed straight away, you produce amazing content honestly. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
He is the truth at editing and fully understands what makes good youtube videos.
Dude these videos are so sick. I just started to dip my toes into making youtube videos this year and I can already think of so many areas to improve my editing/storytelling from my next video.
This is a different type of “breakdown” amazing
I just started watching you and I’ve already learned so much
I've been studying graphic design and obviously, when it comes to the logo it means the brand identity, well to summarize things up after so much hype and showing the magnificence of the settings it's time to show that here we are again its showtime, to express that roll your identity of who your group is and that's the logo sequence, they also did a great job of 3d animation of logo it looks intriguing for the eyes of new watchers but for old watchers, the logo sequence is like "yeah it's fucking dude perfect time", plus it's ok because they didn't cut the momentum by still playing the upbeat song so I actually think that placing logo sequence there is also strategic.
They used “RECORD SCRATCH”
But no comment from Hillier still. So... it’s fine?
A sin
@@oddlyelliott I was waiting for him to say NO¡
I think better with it. Just like how all tv shows have the into.
They are like a tv show in how people tune in every week expecting the same result they had the last time.
People love familiarity. With a twist.
Plus brand recognition. For me it’s not just a video it’s a business asset.
That’s at least what I think coming from an advertising background and spending around a million a month in ads.
Great video, always love watching them 👏👏👏
This stuff is sooooooo damn helpful! Thank you so much. Do you have any idea how to implement those tips into tutorials? I have a tutorial channel and wonder how I can make them more interesting.
Greetings
Erik
Bro your videos are amazing! I look up to you bro! Wish I could learn more quickly so I can maybe one day be as good as you are!
GREAT VID. And great... glasses 🤓 Can’t resist.
wow man, I learned a lot of things about editing with just one video.
Great breakdown! Learning a lot from you
can you make a video where you react to a video of yours like this one?.. like a editor reaction inception? and tell us what your thought process was like editing this?
Hey man! Don't have time to watch yet, but will later tonight. Just wanted hope on real quick to tell you I love the content man. Such a cool way to get this info. I'm working hard to figure out things like sound design and I really appreciate your input. Keep the videos coming my friend. 👊😎 cheers!
As someone who is trying to learn editing and trying to make my own videos engaging etc. This video was incredibly interesting and I feel like has given me value. Great work! Will be checking your other stuff out too!
I love hearing how you analyze each shot, hoping I can learn from this. Thanks
I agree with you that the logo feels a little out of place, but at the same time it’s channel branding so seeing it probably helps with recognition of who they are to new viewers. Great video!
Saw this Channel from Peter MacKinnon's comment box, hope to see more interesting facts about video editing, more power!
11:12 . I thought u said to “NEVER” use record scratches. U didn’t even mention it at all.
I did in the first draft edit! However I ranted about it for 2 minutes and I felt that the video needed to wrap up soon, so I cut it.
@@HillierSmith CUT THAT DARLING!
@@HillierSmith I really want to see a NO RECORD SCRATCH rap video/song. I literally used a record scratch the day I saw the video of yours saying not to use them :)
Crazy how much needs to be put into making great content... thanks for breaking it down!
I try all your tips on my videos! Great channel! I think music is so important!
gosh there is so much to learn.... I thought I was decent at editing but I dont know squat loll
0:49 alone has justify me subscribing this channel
That was another great video, thanks for sharing!
Love your vids man! Its helping me a lot!
I REALLY LIKED YOU EXPERIENCE IN EDITING AND STUFF!!!!!!👍
You made me watch the entire video about keeping viewers retention 😂 damn you’re good 💪
We (the DPeditors) thank you.
as always awesome content mate!
DP has one of the best audience retentions on the platform, can compete with dobrik and casey n. They're audience also is very strong and skews younger. So the Logo gives a break to engage the audience 2 more times as a build up. Also they way they explain the video sequence has been a standard of DP. It creates more build up instead of a unknown or hesitated surprise in middle or end. Its all genuine action because the have the same energy IRL with the fans they meet. Same guys on and off camera. They also are consistently on schedule with what day they post to the exact minute so everyone knows exactly when they can sit and watch with by themselves or with the family. Every one of those guys has a story background which helps explain the storyline of every video. finally the storytelling in sequence they do to wrap up past videos brings everything together for an exciting X minute video you can't click off.
Amazing channel, I learn so much listening to you.
Loving these editing talks! I know it’s not your space but can you discuss a good gaming editor?
Lila sent me here. Glad she did. Great master class! Thank you.
I would say the 8 second logo scene gives the viewer a chance to slow down and comprehend the beginning and it doesn’t just cut right into the challenge
Thank you once again Hayden bro! Raza :)
Holy cow, amazing breakdown! This makes me think SO much more critically about the way I edit. Also I fully agree that the #DPeditors need a raise for thier drone coverage!
Learning so much here, thank you for making these videos!
I think if their logo was just a still image that faded in and out you would be 100% correct. But because the logo moves, rips, and tears it works for them. Its a very active logo for a very active channel.
Also I would love a break down of a Corridor Digital video!
fucking finally an interesting editing channel , i swear if I had to listen to "this guy edits" monotonous tone one more time.
1:28 notice how his eyes stay at the same spot !? tiny little detail. but i love it
these are helping me so much lmao THANK YOU HAYDEN
Absolutely insane way to suggest leaving a comment but he sounded so convincing I'm going to tell you how insane it was
Your channel is straight gold
You might be my favorite youtuber
I think the intro makes you feel like you’re at home with family. Matt Carickar (might be spelled wrong) does an outro on Demolition Ranch and a different one on Off The Ranch that replays fun times and when he got an intro for Off The Ranch i was like, cool.
As always THANK YOU
Smith: Talking
Me: (pen and paper out) THIS IS GOLD!
Great video! I would say the logo was good for branding and lends to your point of relaxing the viewer
Hey Hillier! love ur videos....can u please make a tutorial to find the perfect music for ur videos