Well I think that’s a bit harsh on Minecraft, from what I’ve read even from these comments, we wouldn’t have VS without Minecraft in the first place. And with the nether and the end, in Minecraft, it’s still an awesome game. VS just took it to the next level I think.
@@Ghorda9 well I think you could say that about any game with survival mode and creative mode. Survival you have to find the things in the world and craft it and creative you can have any item for free without any exploring or gathering or anything.
@@samtheashen I think the problem is that Minecraft doesn't have a good balance between the sandbox aspects and the survival/content progression aspect. I know that this comparison has been done to death but look at Terraria, that game has a stellar balance between the sandbox content (decorative stuff) and content made for progression (weapons, armor and etc) while having one less dimension compared to Minecraft. Minecraft has a lot of potential but if you're not playing with other people or with mods, the game is "wide as a ocean and deep as a puddle", at least that's my opinion.
@@marcelosoares7148 I think that’s a fair take, I agree too. Without mods or a good group of friends (which at that point anything would be fun) then it’s super shallow and gets old after a while. I had an amazing time in terraria and would still say that it’s a masterpiece for sure.
Whenever Vintage Story updates they tends to add quite a lot of new features. The most recent update was mostly a bug fix and optimization update but they still added a lot of new features like 11 species of goats a dear, thats 22 mobs total. New scroll racks, ambient noises and QOL features. The next update will feature the next major story location after the first (which was already massive) as well as new features that make traveling less burdensome i.e ridable mounts and boats.
That’s awesome! I was gonna do a pretty big video on it, but I think I will wait for that next update. You think they might introduce the rust world? Or have they mentioned it?
@@samtheashen not sure if or when they will introduce it as this game still has a lot more things planned in the future. I personally am still waiting for a crafting overhaul to remove the 3x3 grid. In the meantime, why not check out the mod Rust creatures. It may not be the rust world but it definitely spices up your survival.
@@Gamer-pk9up I checked out better drifters, feverstome wilds, and the one that adds the variants, those were all awesome I just really wanted a different dimension to explore. Hellscape-ish lol but I’m upset not having it yet, I know it’s a small team and they have all the other new things they are working on introducing. For the grid, if they take out the 3x3 crafting grid, what will that do? You would no longer have to manually put things in there?
@@samtheashen they said in the devlog that they were planning on removing it and replace it with something more “immersive” maybe adding things like different work stations. Maybe for the early game crafting would have to be done by hand. Not sure how it would work but I am hoping it will be like the other mechanics like knapping and smithing.
Personally, I find that VS's world engages me more than Minecraft's does. Maybe it's the more drawn out progression, maybe it's the heavier focus on the survival elements over the sandbox ones, the way that much of the crafting is actually done by the player's own hands rather than in the crafting grid. Minecraft is still a great game, but I find that once I've gotten Iron tools and a basic farm up and running I don't really have much else I want to do. Sure I could build some cool structures, but no one else is ever going to see them so what's the point? So I end up getting bored and leaving the game to collect dust. Personally, I think that Minecraft and VS both fill different niches. Minecraft is all about the sandbox part of 'survival sandbox', it's a canvas to let your imagination go and build cool stuff. Vintage story on the other hand, leans more into the survival elements. And this is the part of the game that actively engages me more than Mincraft's sandbox style gameplay
That’s definitely a good point, they do fill different niches, and there’s a lot of crossover between the two games, whether they played Minecraft and it got stale like it did for you and found VS or vice versa. Also a good point about Minecraft having more of an emphasis on the sandbox aspect, and while VS is still a sandbox, you absolutely can’t ignore the survival aspects if you want to get anywhere. Like you said, The crafting thing was huge for me as well, crafting with my own hands pixel by pixel or voxel (not totally sure) but yeah the super in depth crafting was one of if not my favorite part of VS. the building up a clay crockpot, putting in the ground and firing it to dry, then making food and literally using it as a crockpot, is just awesome.
The game’s story is being revealed slowly as the game develops. Updates have a purpose and always improve game balance in some way, while adding new features. The game doesn’t lag just because you’re in a jungle. The mechanical side of the game is great fun and very very different from MC. Like exploring? The map is 1million x 1 million across with incredible variety of landscapes and climates, with much to discover. you can open two or five, or ten chests at once and drag items between them. You can eat a polar bear. You can customize your world to an incredible degree. Give it a try!
Thats a good point, it's easy to see what they havent done yet, because all in all I am very impressed with what they have done. Exploration was probably my favorite part, but more structures, dungeons, bosses, etc I think would be sweet, instead of different skins for animals, which are already varied. I'm not trying to bash the game at all, because overall its fantastic.
Yeah after playing it for a good amount of time and playing some modded Minecraft I would have to say that base game, vintage story is better, with mods, I think Minecraft gets the upper hand.
@@FancyYT09 that’s a fair point. I think part of my perspective is that I’m just this year playing VS and modded MC for the first time too, so all of it is a whole new world. It’s always possible for my perspective to change down the road.
Its the customizability that made Vintage story for me. and i am not talking about the one click install mods (altho i use knapster because my nerves are made of spaghettios for me to knap at a decent pace) but its literal, vanilla, customize button when picking playstyle. just the fact i could define mob nerve, food spoilage rate and hunger accumilation rates, ore density calculations, how hilly/ flat the world would be, how high the sea level is, turn seasons off or on, make the game spawn me in either wetlands, jungle, desert or tundra, modify block gravity to where not only sand and gravel falls, and so does soil, but also cracked rock, also give these blocks sideways instability so they can fall adjacent from there current position, and to modify whether i want realistic distribution of biomes or minecraft-style. can you do all that shit in minecraft? i mean yeah, for **sure**, it just probably takes a minimum of 3 mods, an outside tool to patch them in, and hitting the play button at the correct quantum state of the universe.
Resources are less dense then Minecraft. Going on multiday expeditions to explore to find resources is practically guaranteed. This is not a casual game.
That's the point, that VS is no better than Minecraft. This is Minecraft with the right mods, which was made a separate game. That is, Minecraft literally has no restrictions, it can be a story game, a set of challenges, MMORPGs, magic and science sim, Factorio - anything. But VS can only be VS. This is not a bad game. It's great for fans. But it's definitely no better than the original.
That’s really interesting, I haven’t seen that yet. I actually just this month got Minecraft on Pc and I’m actually checking out mods, I’ll have to check that one out, I’d like to see how similar it is!
@@sytchnoth that’s definitely a fair point. It would be easy to believe that VS is just modded Minecraft. And with all the mods out there, the right mix of them surely would be able to alter the game like this. I think so far I feel like VS is better than base Minecraft with no mods, and Minecraft with access to mods is the best. Just an opinion and could change the more I get into both sides.
I like it more then minecraft due to the difficulty. I have speedrun minecraft in about an hour which isnt great but hey but in vs thats just not happening
An hour might not be crazy record wise but I can’t imagine flying through that fast! I think it would also be hard to go back to normal play after that like “should I go and search for iron then diamonds?” Nah I’ll just make an inventory full of beds for the dragon 😂
If you haven't tried this game yet I highly recommend trying it you can have it set to many different ways of playing you can just enjoy building or you can enjoy the survival or something in between very very fun game I like it more than Minecraft and I've played Minecraft for many years
This is just my take on it, Vintage Story is the better survival game with an interesting world that the players have to find out on their own with events and creatures and the survival aspects feel deeper than in Minecraft, that being said Minecraft is the better sandbox, Minecraft is what you make of it and it is about you spawn into an already existing world and making it your own whatever your own world means to the player if it is to build a working computer in Minecraft or just making a small hut on top of a mountain it relly does not matter what the end goal is, it is more something to strive for rather than an ending, vintage story does not commit as much to that as Minecraft does and instead focuses on what is in the world and the events of the world and surviving in the world while Minecraft is more about shaping the world to your liking,
@@funnyjupiter4499 Well I have to say, that’s a really good take. It’s a great parallel too of Vintage Story being a world that you have to survive in, despite the threats and already existing life in the world. Then in Minecraft, you shape the world to what you want it to be, it’s much less about harsh survival and more about sandbox creation like you said. Overall, both are incredible games. And despite how similar they seem at first,it’s impressive how different they actually are. Again, great take, I agree!
here are my pointless opinions. 1. the most die hard minecraft fans will always say mc is better since they will just say you can mod MC to be what ever you want it to be 2. i dont think modded games should represent the game 3. the biggest diffrence between the games is their devs, VS clearly has a direction they want to take the gameplay and mechanics of vs which seems to be consistent with itself. meanwhile MC seems to lack direction and its content and mechanics are all over the place, whether or not this is down to Microsoft bureaucracy getting in the way or jebs mc update guide book, we will never truly know 4. MC is for autistic 10 year olds 5. VS is for autistic 16 year olds 6. the arguments over which is better will be going on for as long as humanity remembers both games exist
love this game.. host a server 24/7 for 3 youtubers (one server for all 3 of their discords.. a fair amount of mods.. including the skills one. Playing it since it came out. There is sort of an "end game" the resonance archive. lots of great mods out there .. lots of stupid mods.. (stupid being ones that you can already fully do in the game.. but no have to have a mod to make mobs not aggressive.) very good game for the money.
Oh nice that’s awesome! So I’m sure by now you guys are endgame, do you restart your worlds at some point or just keep them going? Are the archives what you do for some endgame content?
@@samtheashen Yea that is the end game right now and actually it was added only recently, in december of last year i think. It is amazing tbh, i would like not spoil but damn that is how you make dungeon!!! It is nothing like anything minecraft has to offer. It is sooo very grand and epic.
@@dmsys6516 Wow thats good to know, it sounds super interesting. I might go back to see it or I might wait for the rust world to be added, either way I still have a lot to see, its just not very enticing to do all the grinding without a lot of endgame content.
I wish this game was available for mobiles because i always wanted minecraft to add tools instead of mobes and kept adding technology like in minecraft we barely have advanced technology such as spyglasses And thats why i like vintage storys stuffs than minecraft,if minecraft was like VS then it would be way more enjoyable but i still love minecraft
they largest part of vintage story is, its not for kids. kids want instant action with minimal step to step. my son hates vintage story and cant focus on the basics.
I see what you’re saying, definitely not for a lot of kids, even some grown ups, some people don’t want a big challenge and just want to relax which is fair. I’m pretty confident if I had this game at 12 years old I would’ve been all over it though.
I do too, that fact actually made me not want to get it for a few days cause I’m really hesitant to go online and get a game on a site that isn’t well established and trustworthy. But vintage story is definitely legit, so if you are able to then I would definitely check it out!
@@programmer6428 dude its the internet, tf do you mean paranoid? Peoples personal info still get leaked even when using all sorts of preventive measures so you can forget someone being extra careful...
@@vitorvena I have to agree, the internet is littered with scams and most people can’t afford to lose money or time fixing there cards that get hacked.
Is there any other game like Minecraft? I’ve seen lay of the land, 4j’s studios new voxel game, necesse, and hytale but I haven’t really seen any other then this.
@@MemoryPallace I definitely haven’t seen any good ones besides the ones you mentioned. There’s a few like cube life or survival craft or castle Z, but there all really bad besides maybe castle Z but it’s pretty outdated too. So there isn’t really any good ones I know of besides Vintage Story!
I really love this game, and after hundreds of hours of playing it with many more planned in the future, I would say that in my opinion it is indeed better than Minecraft. I really love the immersion that the game's atmosphere creates, it really feels like the world is alive. Also chiselling. Chiselling my beloved. I don't think I could ever return to Minecraft after experiencing chiselling. There's also really unique lore and in-universe character customisation. Oh, and performance. This game has devs who actually care about optimisation. Playing Minecraft after playing Vintage Story feels so slow and clunky. This game is basically what I always wanted Minecraft to be like, and I am really glad that the devs are super passionate about it. :) While I understand opinions can differ and some people prefer Minecraft, for me Vintage Story is the best survival sandbox game out there!
That’s a love letter to Vintage Story for sure, very well written. The world definitely feels alive, it doesn’t feel like the world is made around the character, it feels like the character is just dropped in an already active and lived in world. Chiseling, I’m glad you mentioned it because obviously satisfaction is a good feeling in gaming, and chiseling is the definition of satisfaction. Optimization was great for me on VS even when trying different mods. I will say on Minecraft, I had to do a good amount of tweaks to get everything to run well, especially with obs. It’s all good though, still both great games!
@@samtheashen Thanks for your kind words! I just thought I'd make a comment about my thoughts on the game, since I am having a blast playing it. VS and MC are both great games. :)
@@linkkicksu oh I didn’t know that. I thought I saw on their website that it was planned for the future, I guess it could’ve been someone posting on the site or something. Do you think they’ll add it eventually?
I've been asking myself that all week, the best answer I can come up with is that with everything considered (mods) then minecraft is better overall. Just the base game (no mods) then I think Vintage Story gets the upper hand.
Vintage Story has mods as well, and they’re much less of a nightmare to implement. Vintage Story is simply a better game. It may take people some time to come around to that reality, but it’s true. It’s everything Minecraft should have been. @@samtheashen
I guess I’m wrong then, I thought for sure when I was looking at all the different ones in creative, some of them, maybe boss material stuff? Had some effects could be wrong.
@@Finest_of_563 that could be what I was thinking of, could just be wrong too. Are the Jonas necklaces from the ancient technology stuff? I had found a fragment of something like that from a ruined cellar thing in a chest.
@@samtheashen yeah you can craft some stuff like a night vision helmet and some other stuff woth jonas parts but I don't think there is a necklace one tbh
@@WeWhoSurvived there is a lot of good ones. I looked at some and decided to keep it pretty vanilla and just get some mods that made changes that I wanted to see in the base game anyways like more storage space, tamable wolves etc
For a game as generally survival oriented as VS, skill trees seem rather weird. Rather than limit yourself to a skill tree, just go based on learned skill instead, work with what you have to passively improve things, or learn how to work things faster yourself. So for your point of skill trees, I feel it just doesn't suit the playstyle of VS. imo at least
It is absolutely fair that it doesn’t fit the style of vintage story. The reason that I wanted to see them in there is just because I personally like having skills that I can put points into. It gives me something else to work on and be able to look at and see that I’ve actually made progress. I noticed this like 30 hours in and only had copper tools, no leather, not even a barrel for leather making. Which is definitely all on me, it’s not a fault with the game.
@@samtheashen and hey. That's fair. Having a long history with RPGs myself. Sometimes skill trees really help me figure out what to do next, even if thats just grinding out a particular stat for a build I want.
@@KaneyoriHK I definitely agree, it adds some structure and extra incentive. But to your point, that almost goes against the nature of VS. it’s a really loose structure, thank god for the handbook
looks like it's minecraft + dont starve it came out 8 years ago and still doesn't have an end game. i thought the game would be mature by now. it's a bit disappointing. combat is another disappointment. lack of weapons and mob. i still cant find a game like terraria + minecraft
On one hand your right, on the other hand it's not a big triple a studio, the game price is still low nothing like other new games at 60-70, and there is a ton to do early - mid game. I still agree that it wont be where it needs to be without a solid endgame.
What's better about Vintage Story? - the survival mode is so much more immersive than in Minecraft (help me, my food is spoiling, better I cool it 😮😂) - the Creative Mode has everything you need (I mean you can save/load templates, you can erase things and so on) - building a boat is extremely detailed in 1.20 (you can do passenger seats - for up to 8 players, you can place chests or take up to 4 elks with you) Riding! Oh my gosh, in VS you can do so much with your elk. The only thing I dislike is that you have to buy it and cannot tame them by yourself (I think, they said it's coming with the next big update) There are just 3 things I am missing in Vintage Story, Minecraft is doing better: 1. The mechanical system/redstones: the mechanical system in VS doesn't let you build complex systems (I am missing a mix between gears and ropes to make lifts or traps) 2. NPC: ya, I love the way the traders look, but I am missing something like socializing (that is a thing I miss in both games) 3. Rails: yeah, In Minecraft the minecart isn't the best, but it works. In Vintage Story there is nothing like that (but it's on their roadmap).
@@mrklamma6676 awesome breakdown, super detailed! I agree, 100% that vintage story has way better immersion, the world and the mechanics and the survival really draw you in and make for really intense gameplay. The Voxel based crafting is awesome too. You just have so much control over what you can make. The one thing that hurt vintage story for me was the lack of different worlds. It has a great base world, but the fantasy elements of the nether and the end in Minecraft were really fun to explore and to try to conquer. I think vintage story will eventually come out with new dimensions like the rust world and that will be a game changer for me.. Definitely an amazing game and has an amazing foundation to build from!
Don't get me wrong it's a cool game, but it's Terrafirmacraft in denial. TF fans will love this, and it's 100% better then TF, but if we talk TF modpacks - that's a difficult comparison. I'd say VS modded is better then most TF modpacks, but worse then high-end TF+Greg packs.
@@samtheashen yep. You don't need to try it now, it's gameplay is Village story exactly. inworld pixel by pixel crafts and everything. Pretty sure VS took a lot of inspiration from it.
@@DeadKavaiol nice, I’ve seen a few other comments mentioning it, I should’ve looked into before hand but I was searching for a Minecraft like and saw some gameplay on VS and went straight for it lol
@@samtheashen if you gonna try realistic MC mods there's a new one - better than wolves. It's a lot different from TF and by extension VS so worth a try if you like this kind of gameplay.
@@DeadKavaiol I will definitely check it out, I just started on RLCraft mod pack got Minecraft and I should’ve paid more attention to comment from the mod pack author when they said “I just really like playing games that are really unfair in every way” lol it’s pretty brutal so far but this is also my first time actually playing with mods so maybe it’s just a learning curve
I was bored with MC then started to play VS, and then I got back into mc again hahaha. That's my story about Vintage story. It had things I liked better, but inv space was one I couldn't look over and even though in mc there isn't enough of it, with mods I am back in mc again with more storage. Just to note I played VS for few seasons and have a nicely build big home, garden and small ranch. Not struggling any more but not brave enough to go explore and lose it all because I'm bored.
That’s interesting. Its a little similar to where I might be heading, I’ve played more MC modded after having got it on pc, since posting the video, and now I don’t know when I’m going back to vintage story. For inventory space I downloaded the backpack mod which doubles or triples the space you get from every bag, even the little reed baskets. Even then it feels too low. The thought of a castle and sweet ranch in VS is pretty tempting though
It's "meh". It's not BAD but leaves alot to be desired. Exploring underground is terrible with the world gen. It's not easily transferable like Minecraft. Huge deep ravines, cave ins, etc. Crafting is mediocre. Alot and I mean ALOT of hoops to jump through to craft anything from clothing, to blacksmithing, to brewing. The hunger system could use a complete overhaul as you'll spend alot of time trying to keep it up. They should change the game's name to Hunger Simulator Story. The classes are a dumpster fire. It only really is tolerable if you play multiplayer with lots of other players then everyone can choose something different and cover/makeup for the HUGE penalties included with every class(excluding the base class). Solo it's simply and utterly NOT worth choosing any of the other classes unless you want an already tedious game more so. The game has an interesting premise but falls flat on it's face in most of the things it's trying to do. It's just simply excruciatingly difficult and unforgiving for no real reason except "game go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr" I might come back to it after letting the developer cook for a few years since, to be fair, it's still a WIP.
It definitely needs a lot of work, but I think crafting was one of its strong points. It is a ton of hoops to jump through but that is intentional for sure, to make a more realistic or hardcore experience. Does need a ton of work though, several of the systems would be better if overhauled or at least optimized.
@@TT-fy6hk hunger simulator is fair, I know I went in and created a new world after the first one and turned down hunger drain speed, it helped even out some of the gameplay for sure. As for the crafting, it’s definitely tedious, but I really enjoyed it. It was a nice change, seems like most games are getting easier so it felt nice to go piece by piece and have to really put in effort and focus into it.
NO vintage story is NOT better than minecraft, its not the same thing, it came from same concept BUT vintage came from minecraft... it was another haytale that actually came alive not like haytale XD.
That’s definitely fair. I agree I came from Minecraft. And there’s definitely an argument for Minecraft being better, especially overall. Right now being fairly burnt out on Minecraft, I think base game VS is a bit better, and with mods, Minecraft is far better. There’s just endless possibilities for how you want to play.
Minecraft is basically a cheap proof of concept compared to Vintage Story at this point. Vintage Story is simply better designed and executed in almost every way.
@@Nephelangelo Yea but most people just go with "i like minecraft more lol" tbh that's fair but Vintage story is the game that deserves all it's praise.
Minecraft is basically a shallow proof of concept compared to what Vintage Story has become over the last several years.
Well I think that’s a bit harsh on Minecraft, from what I’ve read even from these comments, we wouldn’t have VS without Minecraft in the first place. And with the nether and the end, in Minecraft, it’s still an awesome game. VS just took it to the next level I think.
@@samtheashen the issue is that survival mode isn't really survival mode, it's just creative mode with extra steps
@@Ghorda9 well I think you could say that about any game with survival mode and creative mode. Survival you have to find the things in the world and craft it and creative you can have any item for free without any exploring or gathering or anything.
@@samtheashen I think the problem is that Minecraft doesn't have a good balance between the sandbox aspects and the survival/content progression aspect.
I know that this comparison has been done to death but look at Terraria, that game has a stellar balance between the sandbox content (decorative stuff) and content made for progression (weapons, armor and etc) while having one less dimension compared to Minecraft.
Minecraft has a lot of potential but if you're not playing with other people or with mods, the game is "wide as a ocean and deep as a puddle", at least that's my opinion.
@@marcelosoares7148 I think that’s a fair take, I agree too. Without mods or a good group of friends (which at that point anything would be fun) then it’s super shallow and gets old after a while. I had an amazing time in terraria and would still say that it’s a masterpiece for sure.
Whenever Vintage Story updates they tends to add quite a lot of new features. The most recent update was mostly a bug fix and optimization update but they still added a lot of new features like 11 species of goats a dear, thats 22 mobs total. New scroll racks, ambient noises and QOL features. The next update will feature the next major story location after the first (which was already massive) as well as new features that make traveling less burdensome i.e ridable mounts and boats.
That’s awesome! I was gonna do a pretty big video on it, but I think I will wait for that next update. You think they might introduce the rust world? Or have they mentioned it?
@@samtheashen not sure if or when they will introduce it as this game still has a lot more things planned in the future. I personally am still waiting for a crafting overhaul to remove the 3x3 grid. In the meantime, why not check out the mod Rust creatures. It may not be the rust world but it definitely spices up your survival.
@@Gamer-pk9up I checked out better drifters, feverstome wilds, and the one that adds the variants, those were all awesome I just really wanted a different dimension to explore. Hellscape-ish lol but I’m upset not having it yet, I know it’s a small team and they have all the other new things they are working on introducing.
For the grid, if they take out the 3x3 crafting grid, what will that do? You would no longer have to manually put things in there?
@@samtheashen they said in the devlog that they were planning on removing it and replace it with something more “immersive” maybe adding things like different work stations. Maybe for the early game crafting would have to be done by hand. Not sure how it would work but I am hoping it will be like the other mechanics like knapping and smithing.
11 different colored goats and deer with the same AI, man they are hard at work
Personally, I find that VS's world engages me more than Minecraft's does. Maybe it's the more drawn out progression, maybe it's the heavier focus on the survival elements over the sandbox ones, the way that much of the crafting is actually done by the player's own hands rather than in the crafting grid.
Minecraft is still a great game, but I find that once I've gotten Iron tools and a basic farm up and running I don't really have much else I want to do. Sure I could build some cool structures, but no one else is ever going to see them so what's the point? So I end up getting bored and leaving the game to collect dust.
Personally, I think that Minecraft and VS both fill different niches. Minecraft is all about the sandbox part of 'survival sandbox', it's a canvas to let your imagination go and build cool stuff. Vintage story on the other hand, leans more into the survival elements. And this is the part of the game that actively engages me more than Mincraft's sandbox style gameplay
That’s definitely a good point, they do fill different niches, and there’s a lot of crossover between the two games, whether they played Minecraft and it got stale like it did for you and found VS or vice versa. Also a good point about Minecraft having more of an emphasis on the sandbox aspect, and while VS is still a sandbox, you absolutely can’t ignore the survival aspects if you want to get anywhere. Like you said, The crafting thing was huge for me as well, crafting with my own hands pixel by pixel or voxel (not totally sure) but yeah the super in depth crafting was one of if not my favorite part of VS. the building up a clay crockpot, putting in the ground and firing it to dry, then making food and literally using it as a crockpot, is just awesome.
The game’s story is being revealed slowly as the game develops. Updates have a purpose and always improve game balance in some way, while adding new features. The game doesn’t lag just because you’re in a jungle. The mechanical side of the game is great fun and very very different from MC. Like exploring? The map is 1million x 1 million across with incredible variety of landscapes and climates, with much to discover. you can open two or five, or ten chests at once and drag items between them. You can eat a polar bear. You can customize your world to an incredible degree. Give it a try!
Thats a good point, it's easy to see what they havent done yet, because all in all I am very impressed with what they have done. Exploration was probably my favorite part, but more structures, dungeons, bosses, etc I think would be sweet, instead of different skins for animals, which are already varied. I'm not trying to bash the game at all, because overall its fantastic.
Vintage Story - Is It Better Than Minecraft?
Yes. Yes it is.
Yeah after playing it for a good amount of time and playing some modded Minecraft I would have to say that base game, vintage story is better, with mods, I think Minecraft gets the upper hand.
@@samtheashenI’ve played modded mc and vs for years and I can say that base vs and modded vs are both better than base mc and modded mc
@@FancyYT09 that’s a fair point. I think part of my perspective is that I’m just this year playing VS and modded MC for the first time too, so all of it is a whole new world. It’s always possible for my perspective to change down the road.
@@samtheashen minecraft is too all over the place and no concrete developer vision
@@Ghorda9 how so? I’m not saying I disagree just wondering what about it is all over the place. It seems pretty stagnant to me
Its the customizability that made Vintage story for me. and i am not talking about the one click install mods (altho i use knapster because my nerves are made of spaghettios for me to knap at a decent pace) but its literal, vanilla, customize button when picking playstyle.
just the fact i could define mob nerve, food spoilage rate and hunger accumilation rates, ore density calculations, how hilly/ flat the world would be, how high the sea level is, turn seasons off or on, make the game spawn me in either wetlands, jungle, desert or tundra, modify block gravity to where not only sand and gravel falls, and so does soil, but also cracked rock, also give these blocks sideways instability so they can fall adjacent from there current position, and to modify whether i want realistic distribution of biomes or minecraft-style.
can you do all that shit in minecraft? i mean yeah, for **sure**, it just probably takes a minimum of 3 mods, an outside tool to patch them in, and hitting the play button at the correct quantum state of the universe.
Resources are less dense then Minecraft. Going on multiday expeditions to explore to find resources is practically guaranteed.
This is not a casual game.
Agreed. It is definitely more strategic, higher stakes, and lot more of a grind, but in a good way.
WE LOVE VINTAGE STORY POSTING!!!!!!!!
Haha I definitely haven’t seen enough of it!
Ever heard of the “terrafirmacraft” modpack? Seems like this is very similar.
That's the point, that VS is no better than Minecraft. This is Minecraft with the right mods, which was made a separate game. That is, Minecraft literally has no restrictions, it can be a story game, a set of challenges, MMORPGs, magic and science sim, Factorio - anything. But VS can only be VS.
This is not a bad game. It's great for fans. But it's definitely no better than the original.
It was inspired by terrafirmacraft, so that tracks.
That’s really interesting, I haven’t seen that yet. I actually just this month got Minecraft on Pc and I’m actually checking out mods, I’ll have to check that one out, I’d like to see how similar it is!
@@sytchnoth that’s definitely a fair point. It would be easy to believe that VS is just modded Minecraft. And with all the mods out there, the right mix of them surely would be able to alter the game like this. I think so far I feel like VS is better than base Minecraft with no mods, and Minecraft with access to mods is the best. Just an opinion and could change the more I get into both sides.
@@strawberrydingdong4097 that’s interesting too, do you know if the dev made that mod pack? Or was the dev just inspired by the mod pack?
I like it more then minecraft due to the difficulty. I have speedrun minecraft in about an hour which isnt great but hey but in vs thats just not happening
An hour might not be crazy record wise but I can’t imagine flying through that fast! I think it would also be hard to go back to normal play after that like “should I go and search for iron then diamonds?” Nah I’ll just make an inventory full of beds for the dragon 😂
If you haven't tried this game yet I highly recommend trying it you can have it set to many different ways of playing you can just enjoy building or you can enjoy the survival or something in between very very fun game I like it more than Minecraft and I've played Minecraft for many years
Definitely good advice, vintage story is absolutely worth a try, and like you said you can tweak so many of the setting to play how you want to play.
I know I've been enjoying it and enjoying making videos of the playthrough as well! Overall this is a pretty fair review, I'd say!
That’s awesome to hear! I’m sure playthrough videos of this game would be fun to watch. I’m glad the review seems fair, it’s an awesome game!
This game seems like it would be a challenge, love it!
It definitely is! I’m glad you liked it, thank you checking it out!
This is just my take on it, Vintage Story is the better survival game with an interesting world that the players have to find out on their own with events and creatures and the survival aspects feel deeper than in Minecraft, that being said Minecraft is the better sandbox, Minecraft is what you make of it and it is about you spawn into an already existing world and making it your own whatever your own world means to the player if it is to build a working computer in Minecraft or just making a small hut on top of a mountain it relly does not matter what the end goal is, it is more something to strive for rather than an ending, vintage story does not commit as much to that as Minecraft does and instead focuses on what is in the world and the events of the world and surviving in the world while Minecraft is more about shaping the world to your liking,
@@funnyjupiter4499 Well I have to say, that’s a really good take. It’s a great parallel too of Vintage Story being a world that you have to survive in, despite the threats and already existing life in the world. Then in Minecraft, you shape the world to what you want it to be, it’s much less about harsh survival and more about sandbox creation like you said. Overall, both are incredible games. And despite how similar they seem at first,it’s impressive how different they actually are. Again, great take, I agree!
here are my pointless opinions.
1. the most die hard minecraft fans will always say mc is better since they will just say you can mod MC to be what ever you want it to be
2. i dont think modded games should represent the game
3. the biggest diffrence between the games is their devs, VS clearly has a direction they want to take the gameplay and mechanics of vs which seems to be consistent with itself. meanwhile MC seems to lack direction and its content and mechanics are all over the place, whether or not this is down to Microsoft bureaucracy getting in the way or jebs mc update guide book, we will never truly know
4. MC is for autistic 10 year olds
5. VS is for autistic 16 year olds
6. the arguments over which is better will be going on for as long as humanity remembers both games exist
love this game.. host a server 24/7 for 3 youtubers (one server for all 3 of their discords.. a fair amount of mods.. including the skills one. Playing it since it came out. There is sort of an "end game" the resonance archive. lots of great mods out there .. lots of stupid mods.. (stupid being ones that you can already fully do in the game.. but no have to have a mod to make mobs not aggressive.) very good game for the money.
Oh nice that’s awesome! So I’m sure by now you guys are endgame, do you restart your worlds at some point or just keep them going? Are the archives what you do for some endgame content?
@@samtheashen Yea that is the end game right now and actually it was added only recently, in december of last year i think. It is amazing tbh, i would like not spoil but damn that is how you make dungeon!!! It is nothing like anything minecraft has to offer. It is sooo very grand and epic.
@@dmsys6516 Wow thats good to know, it sounds super interesting. I might go back to see it or I might wait for the rust world to be added, either way I still have a lot to see, its just not very enticing to do all the grinding without a lot of endgame content.
I wish this game was available for mobiles because i always wanted minecraft to add tools instead of mobes and kept adding technology like in minecraft we barely have advanced technology such as spyglasses
And thats why i like vintage storys stuffs than minecraft,if minecraft was like VS then it would be way more enjoyable but i still love minecraft
they largest part of vintage story is, its not for kids. kids want instant action with minimal step to step. my son hates vintage story and cant focus on the basics.
I see what you’re saying, definitely not for a lot of kids, even some grown ups, some people don’t want a big challenge and just want to relax which is fair. I’m pretty confident if I had this game at 12 years old I would’ve been all over it though.
@@samtheashen hehe boi i'm 12 i hope i will enjoy it if i get it
@@southmoltondancecentre1401 well that’s still awesome, you might love the game, it’s definitely worth a try!
I wish it was on steam...
I do too, that fact actually made me not want to get it for a few days cause I’m really hesitant to go online and get a game on a site that isn’t well established and trustworthy. But vintage story is definitely legit, so if you are able to then I would definitely check it out!
@@samtheashen how paranoid do you have to be to say that LOL
@@programmer6428 dude its the internet, tf do you mean paranoid? Peoples personal info still get leaked even when using all sorts of preventive measures so you can forget someone being extra careful...
@@programmer6428 well I’ve had my card hacked too many times not to be cautious. Trust me I wish I didn’t have to be that way lol
@@vitorvena I have to agree, the internet is littered with scams and most people can’t afford to lose money or time fixing there cards that get hacked.
Is there any other game like Minecraft? I’ve seen lay of the land, 4j’s studios new voxel game, necesse, and hytale but I haven’t really seen any other then this.
@@MemoryPallace I definitely haven’t seen any good ones besides the ones you mentioned. There’s a few like cube life or survival craft or castle Z, but there all really bad besides maybe castle Z but it’s pretty outdated too. So there isn’t really any good ones I know of besides Vintage Story!
I really love this game, and after hundreds of hours of playing it with many more planned in the future, I would say that in my opinion it is indeed better than Minecraft. I really love the immersion that the game's atmosphere creates, it really feels like the world is alive. Also chiselling. Chiselling my beloved. I don't think I could ever return to Minecraft after experiencing chiselling. There's also really unique lore and in-universe character customisation. Oh, and performance. This game has devs who actually care about optimisation. Playing Minecraft after playing Vintage Story feels so slow and clunky. This game is basically what I always wanted Minecraft to be like, and I am really glad that the devs are super passionate about it. :)
While I understand opinions can differ and some people prefer Minecraft, for me Vintage Story is the best survival sandbox game out there!
That’s a love letter to Vintage Story for sure, very well written.
The world definitely feels alive, it doesn’t feel like the world is made around the character, it feels like the character is just dropped in an already active and lived in world. Chiseling, I’m glad you mentioned it because obviously satisfaction is a good feeling in gaming, and chiseling is the definition of satisfaction. Optimization was great for me on VS even when trying different mods. I will say on Minecraft, I had to do a good amount of tweaks to get everything to run well, especially with obs. It’s all good though, still both great games!
@@samtheashen Thanks for your kind words! I just thought I'd make a comment about my thoughts on the game, since I am having a blast playing it. VS and MC are both great games. :)
@@genericusername5671 No problem, it was a great comment, and I’m glad you left it!
The rust world as a full dimension has not been confirmed
That's just community speculation
@@linkkicksu oh I didn’t know that. I thought I saw on their website that it was planned for the future, I guess it could’ve been someone posting on the site or something. Do you think they’ll add it eventually?
villagers!!! need villagers , it feels really so empty, that's the only thing i hope they introduce
@@pedrogodoi9198 I would love if they would introduce villages! More interactions with npcs would be awesome, make the world feel much more alive.
Yes... yes it is
I've been asking myself that all week, the best answer I can come up with is that with everything considered (mods) then minecraft is better overall. Just the base game (no mods) then I think Vintage Story gets the upper hand.
Vintage Story has mods as well, and they’re much less of a nightmare to implement. Vintage Story is simply a better game. It may take people some time to come around to that reality, but it’s true. It’s everything Minecraft should have been. @@samtheashen
Not sure what you're talking about when you say different necklaces give different boosts. That slot is purely cosmetic.
I guess I’m wrong then, I thought for sure when I was looking at all the different ones in creative, some of them, maybe boss material stuff? Had some effects could be wrong.
@@samtheashen there might be a Jonas device you can put in that slot but I don't think so
@@Finest_of_563 that could be what I was thinking of, could just be wrong too. Are the Jonas necklaces from the ancient technology stuff? I had found a fragment of something like that from a ruined cellar thing in a chest.
@@samtheashen yeah you can craft some stuff like a night vision helmet and some other stuff woth jonas parts but I don't think there is a necklace one tbh
@@samtheashen Jonas parts and cupronickle alloy metal makes a bunch of different tech
Its the best yes. Maybe best game ever to me.
It’s definitely a great game. Do you use any mods with it?
@@samtheashen Not yet im doing my first playthrough! though there's definitely some good mods I could see adding like primitive survival
@@WeWhoSurvived there is a lot of good ones. I looked at some and decided to keep it pretty vanilla and just get some mods that made changes that I wanted to see in the base game anyways like more storage space, tamable wolves etc
@@samtheashen Sounds like a good balance i hope you are enjoying :)
@@WeWhoSurvived Thank you, I hope you are enjoying it too!
For a game as generally survival oriented as VS, skill trees seem rather weird. Rather than limit yourself to a skill tree, just go based on learned skill instead, work with what you have to passively improve things, or learn how to work things faster yourself.
So for your point of skill trees, I feel it just doesn't suit the playstyle of VS. imo at least
It is absolutely fair that it doesn’t fit the style of vintage story. The reason that I wanted to see them in there is just because I personally like having skills that I can put points into. It gives me something else to work on and be able to look at and see that I’ve actually made progress. I noticed this like 30 hours in and only had copper tools, no leather, not even a barrel for leather making. Which is definitely all on me, it’s not a fault with the game.
@@samtheashen and hey. That's fair. Having a long history with RPGs myself. Sometimes skill trees really help me figure out what to do next, even if thats just grinding out a particular stat for a build I want.
@@KaneyoriHK I definitely agree, it adds some structure and extra incentive. But to your point, that almost goes against the nature of VS. it’s a really loose structure, thank god for the handbook
looks like it's minecraft + dont starve
it came out 8 years ago and still doesn't have an end game. i thought the game would be mature by now. it's a bit disappointing.
combat is another disappointment. lack of weapons and mob. i still cant find a game like terraria + minecraft
On one hand your right, on the other hand it's not a big triple a studio, the game price is still low nothing like other new games at 60-70, and there is a ton to do early - mid game. I still agree that it wont be where it needs to be without a solid endgame.
braw Vintage Story has a mini boss
What’s the mini boss? I had seen there was one or a few, but I haven’t got that far yet. Too busy leather working I guess lol
@@samtheashenit’s called the immobilized eidolon haven’t fought it yet and it’s in the resonate archives
What's better about Vintage Story?
- the survival mode is so much more immersive than in Minecraft (help me, my food is spoiling, better I cool it 😮😂)
- the Creative Mode has everything you need (I mean you can save/load templates, you can erase things and so on)
- building a boat is extremely detailed in 1.20 (you can do passenger seats - for up to 8 players, you can place chests or take up to 4 elks with you)
Riding! Oh my gosh, in VS you can do so much with your elk. The only thing I dislike is that you have to buy it and cannot tame them by yourself (I think, they said it's coming with the next big update)
There are just 3 things I am missing in Vintage Story, Minecraft is doing better:
1. The mechanical system/redstones: the mechanical system in VS doesn't let you build complex systems (I am missing a mix between gears and ropes to make lifts or traps)
2. NPC: ya, I love the way the traders look, but I am missing something like socializing (that is a thing I miss in both games)
3. Rails: yeah, In Minecraft the minecart isn't the best, but it works. In Vintage Story there is nothing like that (but it's on their roadmap).
@@mrklamma6676 awesome breakdown, super detailed! I agree, 100% that vintage story has way better immersion, the world and the mechanics and the survival really draw you in and make for really intense gameplay. The Voxel based crafting is awesome too. You just have so much control over what you can make. The one thing that hurt vintage story for me was the lack of different worlds. It has a great base world, but the fantasy elements of the nether and the end in Minecraft were really fun to explore and to try to conquer. I think vintage story will eventually come out with new dimensions like the rust world and that will be a game changer for me.. Definitely an amazing game and has an amazing foundation to build from!
Don't get me wrong it's a cool game, but it's Terrafirmacraft in denial.
TF fans will love this, and it's 100% better then TF, but if we talk TF modpacks - that's a difficult comparison.
I'd say VS modded is better then most TF modpacks, but worse then high-end TF+Greg packs.
I thought Terrafirmacraft was a mod pack for Minecraft? I’ve never actually played I’m just going by what I read so far
@@samtheashen yep. You don't need to try it now, it's gameplay is Village story exactly. inworld pixel by pixel crafts and everything. Pretty sure VS took a lot of inspiration from it.
@@DeadKavaiol nice, I’ve seen a few other comments mentioning it, I should’ve looked into before hand but I was searching for a Minecraft like and saw some gameplay on VS and went straight for it lol
@@samtheashen if you gonna try realistic MC mods there's a new one - better than wolves. It's a lot different from TF and by extension VS so worth a try if you like this kind of gameplay.
@@DeadKavaiol I will definitely check it out, I just started on RLCraft mod pack got Minecraft and I should’ve paid more attention to comment from the mod pack author when they said “I just really like playing games that are really unfair in every way” lol it’s pretty brutal so far but this is also my first time actually playing with mods so maybe it’s just a learning curve
I was bored with MC then started to play VS, and then I got back into mc again hahaha. That's my story about Vintage story. It had things I liked better, but inv space was one I couldn't look over and even though in mc there isn't enough of it, with mods I am back in mc again with more storage. Just to note I played VS for few seasons and have a nicely build big home, garden and small ranch. Not struggling any more but not brave enough to go explore and lose it all because I'm bored.
That’s interesting. Its a little similar to where I might be heading, I’ve played more MC modded after having got it on pc, since posting the video, and now I don’t know when I’m going back to vintage story. For inventory space I downloaded the backpack mod which doubles or triples the space you get from every bag, even the little reed baskets. Even then it feels too low. The thought of a castle and sweet ranch in VS is pretty tempting though
It's "meh". It's not BAD but leaves alot to be desired. Exploring underground is terrible with the world gen. It's not easily transferable like Minecraft. Huge deep ravines, cave ins, etc. Crafting is mediocre. Alot and I mean ALOT of hoops to jump through to craft anything from clothing, to blacksmithing, to brewing. The hunger system could use a complete overhaul as you'll spend alot of time trying to keep it up. They should change the game's name to Hunger Simulator Story. The classes are a dumpster fire. It only really is tolerable if you play multiplayer with lots of other players then everyone can choose something different and cover/makeup for the HUGE penalties included with every class(excluding the base class). Solo it's simply and utterly NOT worth choosing any of the other classes unless you want an already tedious game more so. The game has an interesting premise but falls flat on it's face in most of the things it's trying to do. It's just simply excruciatingly difficult and unforgiving for no real reason except "game go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"
I might come back to it after letting the developer cook for a few years since, to be fair, it's still a WIP.
It definitely needs a lot of work, but I think crafting was one of its strong points. It is a ton of hoops to jump through but that is intentional for sure, to make a more realistic or hardcore experience. Does need a ton of work though, several of the systems would be better if overhauled or at least optimized.
You said all I was to lazy to write :D I agree about hunger simulator so much. Also crafting was tedious, not fun at all.
@@TT-fy6hk yeah sadly, has potential but give the developer years to cook and check back to see I guess 😆
@@TT-fy6hk hunger simulator is fair, I know I went in and created a new world after the first one and turned down hunger drain speed, it helped even out some of the gameplay for sure. As for the crafting, it’s definitely tedious, but I really enjoyed it. It was a nice change, seems like most games are getting easier so it felt nice to go piece by piece and have to really put in effort and focus into it.
@@corporateturtle6005 that’s true too, I can’t wait to see the future for this game. It’s got a great chance to be a little sibling to Minecraft.
NO vintage story is NOT better than minecraft, its not the same thing, it came from same concept BUT vintage came from minecraft... it was another haytale that actually came alive not like haytale XD.
That’s definitely fair. I agree I came from Minecraft. And there’s definitely an argument for Minecraft being better, especially overall. Right now being fairly burnt out on Minecraft, I think base game VS is a bit better, and with mods, Minecraft is far better. There’s just endless possibilities for how you want to play.
Minecraft is basically a cheap proof of concept compared to Vintage Story at this point. Vintage Story is simply better designed and executed in almost every way.
@@Nephelangelo Yea but most people just go with "i like minecraft more lol" tbh that's fair but Vintage story is the game that deserves all it's praise.
nah, it's bad
VS is bad?