This is the most unhinged comic I've ever heard of, but why do I kind of love it?? The idea of the all powerful Beyonder bumbling through the world in the weirdest way ever is fascinating.
"Of all the people who attack me, mutants most reliably are violent toward me. Interesting." _Earlier..._ *Colossus:* "Huddle up, comrades. Beyonder is here on Earth. Very soon, he shall be revealing the secret of the Secret Wars, which is that I made time with alien girl while I was with Katya." *Wolverine:* "Don't worry, bub. That secret's gonna stay a secret." _snikt_ "Bro code." *Mutants:* "Bro code." *All the Female Mutants off in the distance:* "What're you guys doing over there?" *Colossus:* ".........What's that Professor? Beyonder is at the front door?!" _GOOSH! All the guys run through the front door_ *Rachel:* "Professor, this doesn't seem right." *Charles (under his breath):* "Bro code." *Rachel:* "What?" *Charles:* "I said let's show that freak he doesn't belong here, my X-Men!"
I’m surprised I’ve never said this before but I really appreciate how you guys went back to your old thumbnail design, nothing was really wrong with the other ones but I always love you guys doing your little action pose/ skits in the thumbnails are fun.
@@maxwellrauchut7926 but, those videos were so long ago. Lol I was also confused cuz I just scrolled down their video history and their back issues screen caps they’re always doing the little poses.
I find it really funny that with everyone the Beyonder is naive, but not actively horrible, but the second he sees the New mutants he's like "oh fuck these kids" and instantly murders them
The fact that one of the Incredible Hulk tie-ins was completely dedicated to the freaking ORIGIN OF BRUCE BANNER with only slight relevance to Secret Wars II kind of reveals a lot about what most of the writers at Marvel felt about this event.
The disbelief that Transformers was in continuity with 616 Marvel for a time was amazing. Also, this is sort of like a weird first draft to what would become Jim Shooter's run on Solar Man of the Atom at the start of Valiant.
Fun fact: the only reason why Circuit Breaker was apart of this event is actually because the writer of Transformers didn’t want Hasbro to have the license for Circuit Breaker, so had her appear here in Secret Wars II before she debuted in the Transformers comic. Most of us TF fans see this now as a bad idea as Marvel has never used her character since the Marvel TF run ended
Yes! Gerber also wrote for cartoon shows, including one called “Thundar the Barbarian”. Thundersword is a reference to that show, which aired, obviously, on NBC.
As a young teen, I read this as it came out. Although it was wildly strange, the scenes with Boom-Boom ("10 points, I win" for every bad thing that happens), Spider-Man teaching bodily functions, and the Beyonder going full Holy Trinity by making himself "his own son" stuck with me. Thanks for covering this madness!
That machine that the New Mutants are coming out of when they're recreated by The Beyonder looks like the machine from Futurama that Professor Farnsworth uses to bring his crew back to life in their first episode after switching networks.
This was my first trade I've ever gotten. I got it at a small comic con for like 5 bucks like 6 ish years ago, I started to read it and said nope! I'm glad you can clear up the story for me!
This is the funniest episode in a while.💀 Now I wanna see a comedy movie with the Beyonder educating himself in the MCU. 🤣 31:10 It's funnier because the One Above All also did that
I feel very lightheaded now. I cried, laughed, gasped in confusion, and shook my head in denial; there's NO way a book this insane could be published in the hopes of being commercially successful. Maybe, I should go lie down.
Also, in X-Men 100 during the Secret Wars II crossover, Nightcrawler questioned his faith when the Beyonder came to earth. He talked with his friend who is a priest about Battleworld. Kurt said “How can the Lord permit this entity to threaten humanity? Perhaps all creation? Unless the Beyonder is GOD.”
10 minutes in and this is one of the best episodes you've ever done. But that's basically every episode because you guys are the best comic show on UA-cam.
This is the most insane yet hilarious back issues so far. There's so many points where this book could've ended but it just kept going deeper into the madness. Gotta love how the freaking Pimp was the most morally right character while EVERY Marvel hero was okay with child murder by the end.
I'm so excited for this episode, I read this a while back thinking "holy shit there's a secret wars 2? Why does nobody talk about this?" and quickly realized why and then forgot the entire plot like a week later
This was great. The single image that still sticks in my head to this day Is when the Beyonder picks up a bottle of soda ... he immediately bites the bottle as if it was food, and starts chewing the glass instead of drinking it lol Yes, Jim Shooter. You 'fancy yourself' a writer lol
The amount of words per page in this is practically Bendis-esk. I don’t care what anyone says, yes a lot of what came out of the 80’s started as a toy commercial, but it doesn’t matter how creatively bankrupt the impetus behind an idea is, great, long lasting, highly creative things can (and do) come from that.
Ah, but therein lies the rub. The first secret wars was yes a toy commercial. As the hosts mention, the toyline was a failure. Contemporaneous from DC was the crisis on infinite earths. Itwas 12 issues with tie ins to the various comics. Both crisis and secret wars were big sellers book wise. Hence when secret wars 2 was moving ahead it was developed as a way to move comics and to get readers to sample books they may not ordinarily even consider. Marketing genius until it wore out its welcome with event after event.
This video is great and hilarious. So many of my thoughts were the same while reading Secret Wars 2, which I read primarily as part of my Claremont run reading. I was so baffled by what I was reading and not a lot of people even talk about this event so this was so nice to hear. It was all so non-sensical, repetitive, and pointless and by the end I was just like “well that was a waste of time”
Some people really like it when Back Issues is Sal tearing apart an awful book and others like seeing him praise a great one but my favorites are always when he has to explain one of the truly batshit insane stories like this
I usually have back issues on as I either play videos games or clean, and holy crap I just realized this is a two hour episode?!?! I thought I was near the end at 1 hour.... can’t wait to see what happens xD
Sparta isn't a Chicago suburb! It's closer to st Louis Missouri. And fun fact: it was a major hub of the American printing industry after wwII. many many old school golden age comics were originally printed there!
MY GUYS!! Thank you for covering this! I have the entire Secret Wars crossovers! This is awesome. I’m REALLY excited to see Secret Wars live action adaptation in the MCU. It should be a mix of the 1984 and 2015 series.🤓😊🎙️
"You wanna get nuts??? LET'S GET NUTS!!!!" -Bruce Wayne right before attempting to explain this story to Joker. If he hadn't gotten shot, this plan could've saved Gotham city faster. 😄
@38:28 Right here is where I was drinking something and almost did a spit take. The second Sal said the word “moron” my Pepsi almost went EVERYWHERE!!! and now I’m laughing and crying and choking. Thank you Sal. This why I keep coming back. 👍
In the modern MCU landscape, a The Beyonder TV series on D+ could be hilarious. A sort of silly slice of life “we recognize that our franchise is tropy and campy, but we have fun here” vibe where the Beyonder (maybe as a NB, who knows?) interacts with these larger than life characters in small world situations.
Yea, when he does black face while he was with luke cage and gets beat up for it would be hilarious to see too bad Disney hires out of touch hacks who aren't funny and would turn the beyonder to an idiot cause he's white and has a penis
I really appreciate you guys not bombing us with ads for the back issues series , when I’m not listening to you guys while studying , I have you guys playing on my background while I’m sleeping ever since your first episode of venom
I had always thought that the Beyonder Universe was the Marvel New Universe. I may be misremembering things, but I could swear they even confirmed it at some point. Doesn’t really matter since it failed and they retconned everything about the Beyonder anyway
Listening to the guys describe this makes it feel like Being John Malkovich but in the Marvel universe, and the entire thing takes place in Jim Shooters head
This was the first crossover I ever "read" as a kid, 10 years old. I really only read about 2 of the main issues (1 and 3, I think??) and a handful of tie-ins - but back then, that was all I could afford. I loved it, then.
Based on all the “advice” Beyonder is getting, he should’ve just watched a bunch of PBS kids shows-it’s the same advice, even down to explaining how to go to the bathroom. Make sure to flush, Beyonder!
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This is the most unhinged comic I've ever heard of, but why do I kind of love it?? The idea of the all powerful Beyonder bumbling through the world in the weirdest way ever is fascinating.
"This pimp has learned moderation!!"-Best Back Issues line of all time.
44:17
"Of all the people who attack me, mutants most reliably are violent toward me. Interesting." _Earlier..._
*Colossus:* "Huddle up, comrades. Beyonder is here on Earth. Very soon, he shall be revealing the secret of the Secret Wars, which is that I made time with alien girl while I was with Katya."
*Wolverine:* "Don't worry, bub. That secret's gonna stay a secret." _snikt_ "Bro code."
*Mutants:* "Bro code."
*All the Female Mutants off in the distance:* "What're you guys doing over there?"
*Colossus:* ".........What's that Professor? Beyonder is at the front door?!" _GOOSH! All the guys run through the front door_
*Rachel:* "Professor, this doesn't seem right."
*Charles (under his breath):* "Bro code."
*Rachel:* "What?"
*Charles:* "I said let's show that freak he doesn't belong here, my X-Men!"
This is beautiful
Oi Mustache man. You gonna be there tomorrow for Subaru?
@@milliondotz Which Subaru? Duck Subaru or suffering Subaru?
@@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache Duck
@@milliondotz I hadn’t heard. Is something happening to her tomorrow?
I’m surprised I’ve never said this before but I really appreciate how you guys went back to your old thumbnail design, nothing was really wrong with the other ones but I always love you guys doing your little action pose/ skits in the thumbnails are fun.
I agree
@@bretonwayde6934 stuff like moon knight the bottom and spidermen had a different style
agreed
This
@@maxwellrauchut7926 but, those videos were so long ago. Lol
I was also confused cuz I just scrolled down their video history and their back issues screen caps they’re always doing the little poses.
I find it really funny that with everyone the Beyonder is naive, but not actively horrible, but the second he sees the New mutants he's like "oh fuck these kids" and instantly murders them
Ethan: "how is this still going?!"
Oh you have no idea yet, Ethan. You're only one hour into a two hour episode.
The fact that one of the Incredible Hulk tie-ins was completely dedicated to the freaking ORIGIN OF BRUCE BANNER with only slight relevance to Secret Wars II kind of reveals a lot about what most of the writers at Marvel felt about this event.
That is a great issue
Yeah, it’s so weird that such an important backbone of any modern Hulk comic, and oh hey, Secret Wars II tie-in
Luke Cage: Hero for Hire and almost the cause for the entire devaluation of gold.
"Secret Wars 2 is 9 parts. And 31 tie-ins"
Multiple groans of disgust and a commercial immediately starts. It felt programed.
Fun episode so far!
2024 and the MCU did not learn from there mistakes!
The disbelief that Transformers was in continuity with 616 Marvel for a time was amazing. Also, this is sort of like a weird first draft to what would become Jim Shooter's run on Solar Man of the Atom at the start of Valiant.
Ben: The Beyonder will learn a lesson by the end of the story.
Sal: Nihilistic laughter
And by the end of the book, the moral of the story is "Pimping ain't easy"
Fun fact: the only reason why Circuit Breaker was apart of this event is actually because the writer of Transformers didn’t want Hasbro to have the license for Circuit Breaker, so had her appear here in Secret Wars II before she debuted in the Transformers comic. Most of us TF fans see this now as a bad idea as Marvel has never used her character since the Marvel TF run ended
“How is this still going?”
*looks and sees there’s almost another full hour in the video*
Man Jim Shooter was wildin and that was a hell of a performance by Sal making all this crazy make sense great episode y'all
Secret Wars II aka Jim Shooter's overpowered OC and the marvel fanfic that just will not end
New Back Issues?!
"Weirdest" is in the title?!
A book I never knew existed?!
2 hours long?!
Oh, it's gonna be a great day.
According to the Marvel Wiki, Thundersword is based on Steve Gerber, the creator of Howard the Duck.
Yes! Gerber also wrote for cartoon shows, including one called “Thundar the Barbarian”. Thundersword is a reference to that show, which aired, obviously, on NBC.
@@biteme7446 oh i remember he got into a big fight with marvel over copyright so that makes sense jim shooter making fun of him
As a young teen, I read this as it came out. Although it was wildly strange, the scenes with Boom-Boom ("10 points, I win" for every bad thing that happens), Spider-Man teaching bodily functions, and the Beyonder going full Holy Trinity by making himself "his own son" stuck with me. Thanks for covering this madness!
It's one of those stories wherr you forget the last paragraph as you read the next over all the insanity
That machine that the New Mutants are coming out of when they're recreated by The Beyonder looks like the machine from Futurama that Professor Farnsworth uses to bring his crew back to life in their first episode after switching networks.
1:00:03 The in sync facepalms of Ben and Ethan are just perfect.
1:02:12 Boom Boom travelling with the Beyonder had potential. It could have been fun if they did it right, kinda like Doctor Who.
1:28:21 - Ethan's face sums up the book so well. Perfect emotional response. :D
This was my first trade I've ever gotten. I got it at a small comic con for like 5 bucks like 6 ish years ago, I started to read it and said nope! I'm glad you can clear up the story for me!
This is the funniest episode in a while.💀
Now I wanna see a comedy movie with the Beyonder educating himself in the MCU. 🤣
31:10 It's funnier because the One Above All also did that
Only if Luis (Michael Pena) from Ant-Man sums it up for him.
That would be dope asf 😂
If Disney/Marvel didn’t own DP and wanted to venture off into Rated R property this would have to be adapted live action.
I feel very lightheaded now. I cried, laughed, gasped in confusion, and shook my head in denial; there's NO way a book this insane could be published in the hopes of being commercially successful. Maybe, I should go lie down.
Also, in X-Men 100 during the Secret Wars II crossover, Nightcrawler questioned his faith when the Beyonder came to earth. He talked with his friend who is a priest about Battleworld. Kurt said “How can the Lord permit this entity to threaten humanity? Perhaps all creation? Unless the Beyonder is GOD.”
10 minutes in and this is one of the best episodes you've ever done. But that's basically every episode because you guys are the best comic show on UA-cam.
This is the most insane yet hilarious back issues so far. There's so many points where this book could've ended but it just kept going deeper into the madness. Gotta love how the freaking Pimp was the most morally right character while EVERY Marvel hero was okay with child murder by the end.
The beyonder's tearful goodbye with the pimp and Sal exclaiming "where's Spider-Man??" had me dyin
You know it’s going to be a great episode when it’s 2 hours long.
I'm so excited for this episode, I read this a while back thinking "holy shit there's a secret wars 2? Why does nobody talk about this?" and quickly realized why and then forgot the entire plot like a week later
The one thing that apparently cannot be accepted in this crazy crazy book is Transformers in Marvel Continuity.
And sal didnt even bring up that time spider-man fought megatron. That was issue 4 or 5 I think
@@gregcourtney751 I remember it as issue #3 for some reason. I have it....somewhere...
this is already a great, classic back issues!
Even as a kid in '85 reading this, it felt so underwhelming and hated the idea I needed to buy a dozen books a month to get the "full effect."
This was great. The single image that still sticks in my head to this day Is when the Beyonder picks up a bottle of soda ... he immediately bites the bottle as if it was food, and starts chewing the glass instead of drinking it lol
Yes, Jim Shooter. You 'fancy yourself' a writer lol
10:02: How has no one done a cosplay of this?!
A 2 hour episode? Woah, thanks for all of the hard work that goes into producing these.
When ComicPop posts a back issues episode about Secret Wars II…… you stop whatever you’re doing and watch this episode!
Alright....never thought in my life I'd hear "pimping ain't easy" from Comic Pop but here we are.... and it is glorious!
"With Great Power comes Great Bathroom Responsibilities." Spiderman to The Beyonder.
This was an incredible episode, I always love batshit 80s marvel stories
The amount of words per page in this is practically Bendis-esk. I don’t care what anyone says, yes a lot of what came out of the 80’s started as a toy commercial, but it doesn’t matter how creatively bankrupt the impetus behind an idea is, great, long lasting, highly creative things can (and do) come from that.
Ah, but therein lies the rub. The first secret wars was yes a toy commercial. As the hosts mention, the toyline was a failure. Contemporaneous from DC was the crisis on infinite earths. Itwas 12 issues with tie ins to the various comics. Both crisis and secret wars were big sellers book wise. Hence when secret wars 2 was moving ahead it was developed as a way to move comics and to get readers to sample books they may not ordinarily even consider. Marketing genius until it wore out its welcome with event after event.
This is already my favorite back issues
This video is great and hilarious. So many of my thoughts were the same while reading Secret Wars 2, which I read primarily as part of my Claremont run reading. I was so baffled by what I was reading and not a lot of people even talk about this event so this was so nice to hear. It was all so non-sensical, repetitive, and pointless and by the end I was just like “well that was a waste of time”
This entire event can be sum up in "What? Why? How? What is happening? What is anything?"
This whole comic is like the acid trip Dr Strange takes in the movie
Sal in a Spawn shirt symbolizes the whole thing about that event
Some people really like it when Back Issues is Sal tearing apart an awful book and others like seeing him praise a great one but my favorites are always when he has to explain one of the truly batshit insane stories like this
6:59 - FUN FACT: In the latin american dub for the 90s "X-Men" cartoon, they changed Rogue's name to "Titania" for some reason.
Ethan's face at 1:29:54 speaks for all of us
I legit purchased the Marvel U app just so I could read this and the tie ins. Thanks for introducing me to this insanity Sal!
I’m having the worst cold. Thank you guys so much for this episode, this is a pick me up I really needed.
Secret Wars 2: The Secret Just got Secreter
Secret wars 2: secret boogaloo.
“There’s nothing!!!” Kills me every single time😂😂
"THERE IS NO GOD!"
That's my favorite part of this!
This video could be twice as long and I'd still love it. Cheers for Dave, biggest balls in the multiverse
So excited, I've been waiting for this episode for a long time! THis event was so bizarre and it crossed over with like every series for so long!
From the facial expressions in the thumbnail, this looks like Back Issues which will go down in history
Whenever we get a super long episode either it's gonna be a really interesting book or a total disaster of a story. Pretty clear where this one lands
I usually have back issues on as I either play videos games or clean, and holy crap I just realized this is a two hour episode?!?! I thought I was near the end at 1 hour.... can’t wait to see what happens xD
OMG - I love it!!! I lived for the already dated Miami Vice outfits … so so funny … and molecule man was great
2 hour back issues? Yes Please. Gonna clear my schedule
this is such a wild ride. fits perfectly into back issue with the insanity that happens
Ridiculous/weird 80's comic???
2 hours long Back Issues???
Me: My day just became a lot better.
So you actually made this sound amazing. I keep imagining an MCU version of this and it'd be the best thing ever.
Back issues really is the highlight of the end of my work week. Keep going strong comicpop crew
Sparta isn't a Chicago suburb! It's closer to st Louis Missouri. And fun fact: it was a major hub of the American printing industry after wwII. many many old school golden age comics were originally printed there!
Me when I suddenly heard "Circuit Breaker" and "Soundwave" : The fuck is happening now.
Sal: Marvel fancied itself an entertainment empire not unlike Disney
Me: that makes too much sense as to why they were bought
MY GUYS!! Thank you for covering this! I have the entire Secret Wars crossovers! This is awesome. I’m REALLY excited to see Secret Wars live action adaptation in the MCU. It should be a mix of the 1984 and 2015 series.🤓😊🎙️
"You wanna get nuts??? LET'S GET NUTS!!!!"
-Bruce Wayne right before attempting to explain this story to Joker. If he hadn't gotten shot, this plan could've saved Gotham city faster. 😄
Amazing. This is the kind of madness I live for now.
"It would take the fun out of pimping. Which AS YOU ALL KNOW is not easy!" lmaoooooo Sal!
Can you guys cover Thor the Devourer King, Godzilla in Hell, or Freddy vs Jason vs Ash?
@38:28 Right here is where I was drinking something and almost did a spit take. The second Sal said the word “moron” my Pepsi almost went EVERYWHERE!!! and now I’m laughing and crying and choking. Thank you Sal. This why I keep coming back. 👍
I think even with terrible execution, I kinda have to admire Jim shooter for doing this.
In the modern MCU landscape, a The Beyonder TV series on D+ could be hilarious. A sort of silly slice of life “we recognize that our franchise is tropy and campy, but we have fun here” vibe where the Beyonder (maybe as a NB, who knows?) interacts with these larger than life characters in small world situations.
The only legit choice to play Beyonder is Neil Breen.
Yea, when he does black face while he was with luke cage and gets beat up for it would be hilarious to see too bad Disney hires out of touch hacks who aren't funny and would turn the beyonder to an idiot cause he's white and has a penis
I really appreciate you guys not bombing us with ads for the back issues series , when I’m not listening to you guys while studying , I have you guys playing on my background while I’m sleeping ever since your first episode of venom
Darth Vader: No Luke, I am your father.
Luke: 47:15
I had always thought that the Beyonder Universe was the Marvel New Universe. I may be misremembering things, but I could swear they even confirmed it at some point. Doesn’t really matter since it failed and they retconned everything about the Beyonder anyway
Boom Boom is actually in X-Men Evolution.
So, when I heard you mention her here, it was a good 'what the hell?' moment.
Yeah I liked her in that. Its the reason I have fond memories of her
Listening to the guys describe this makes it feel like Being John Malkovich but in the Marvel universe, and the entire thing takes place in Jim Shooters head
What an absolute ride. Love the show keep up the good work crew
26:49 " durp pa durp...Goofy shit. " love it
can anyone imagine an event like this happening nowadays? it's wild
THAT was a journey. A glorious adventure into befuddlement! Great episode guys!
The sheer amount of "what the fucks" in this episode make it endlessly entertaining. This book is so bizzare
This was the first crossover I ever "read" as a kid, 10 years old. I really only read about 2 of the main issues (1 and 3, I think??) and a handful of tie-ins - but back then, that was all I could afford. I loved it, then.
(48:11) Somewhere, Whirl feels the urge to strangle a man and he doesn't know why.
Wow! I was just thinking about this one. I have meant to read it for a while.
Secret wars 2 was what got me into collecting comics as a kid. The Beyonder was awesome.
“Ha-haaaa! I’m purple and I have weird not-face.”
-Shockwave
Long time coming, this one.
Great episode guys, makes me very grateful there was a Secret Wars by Jonathan Hickman.
2 hour back issues
Is it Christmas already sal 🤣
This is going to be gold
Laughing at Hogan's Heroes and A-Team jokes. I'm an old man now...
Great episode, would love to see hickmens secret wars in the future
Based on all the “advice” Beyonder is getting, he should’ve just watched a bunch of PBS kids shows-it’s the same advice, even down to explaining how to go to the bathroom. Make sure to flush, Beyonder!
I’ve lost track of how many sittings I’ve had to watch this video in. And its not because of the length but the absolute insanity of this book😂