The Story Of The Alfa Romeo Boxer Engine
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2020
- Disclaimer: The capacity of the 1.5L boxer was 1490cc, not 1570 as erroneously stated in the video. Sorry for the oversight!
Although it was designed and tested as a 1500cc engine, the #AlfaRomeo #boxer #engine debuted in 1972 in 1.2 liters, single-carburetor form, to place the Alfasud at a comfortable distance from the Giulia in the Alfa range.
The first significant evolutionary step for the boxer came in 1976, under the bonnet of the pretty Alfasud Sprint coupé. That first 1.3 liters engine was to be shortlived though, superseded in 1978 with a new version that shared its stroke with the 1.5 liters engine that debuted that same year. Both power units would gain their typical two double-barrel carburetors in 1979 and be carried over mostly unchanged from the Alfasud to the 33, in 1983.
By 1990, the Alfa Romeo boxer engine and the 33 reached their evolutionary peak, with the introduction of the range-topping 1.7 16 valves.
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If you've enjoyed this video, I suggest you this one I made about the Alfa 33: ua-cam.com/video/hpirFpMzOHo/v-deo.html
One of the best engine sound ever. I drove a 33 1,7QV and also a 145 1.6 and 146 1.6 with this engine. Every Tunnel was a true plessure.
An ex colleague of mine blew up the engine in his VW camper van and decided to fit an Alfa 1.7 Boxer engine. The van became very fast but also quite dangerous. One time he was driving at 160 km/h on the motorway, his van did not respond at all to the steering when entering a very slight corner. When he slowed down in a panic, it became clear why this was the case. At this speed the camper van was only riding on it's rear wheels.
Wow! That was hairy... Thanks for sharing this cool story
My Dad's work colleague put a Leyland P76 V8 (4.4 litres) in a Microbus.
I understand the terror of which you speak
My dad had an Alfa Romeo 145 1.6 boxer 103hp it was a beast of a car handling and aceleration were good and the exaust sound was irreplaceable almost every month we went for a top speed rune in it and at 220km/h the car felt so stable and he beated bmw 218i / 220d drivers on a daily bases the alfa boxer engine is one of the best engines alfa made period
Ah, that sound! I always loved the 80s Alfa Sprint in black and the first 33 1.7 QV in red.
I used to have a 33 Qv with this engine. Lovely little car. Moved on to a 156 2,5 V6 and then bought a Giuletta QV. Bought a Giulia Veloce this year. Still miss that little boxer.
As kid I always liked the sound of my parents Alfa 33, sounded like a race car for me back then :)
🎯👍🏽👍🏿👍🏻👍
I once had a 145 with a 1.6l boxer engine as daily driver. I loved the sound and how dynamically it drove!
Great job as usual . loved the old boxer engine note ....
Thank you! Yeah those engines sounded fantastic, especially the twin-carburetors ones
That was a very personal video for me as I actually owned each of the cars you featured in the 80s and 90s. Alfasud 1.5 ti, Sprint Veloce, 33 1.7QFV and 145 all with boxer engines. Epic little cars with bucket loads of character, charm and soul (145, not so much)
Thanks for the video, loved it.
Cool, I'm glad you've enjoyed the video, thank you!
Love to the Alfa boxer engine !
As Busso, Hruska did a masterpiece motor ... I miss my Alfasud & 33 !.. and of course my Alfetta Gtv6 ... In fact i miss all my previous Alfa Romeo 🇮🇹 🍀 ))
Hruska is the demonstration of the perfect possible collaboration between Germans/Austrians and Italians
@@studiocalder818 , yes, you're totally right 😁
Got a drive in a 145 with boxer engine loved it sound was amazing.
Awesome! I recently bought my first car, a 1988 Alfa 33 QV! Now all I need is my driver's license :)
Great car!!
Congratulations, great car👌👏. You need to speed up to get the license not in order to get sad not to drive it
That's one hell of a way to start! Congrats!
Bravissimo
What a first car! Nice start to driving life.
I owned a Alfa 33 TI with four dualport Weber carburators on, that was a heck of a ride :)
Der Boxer hat mir immer viel Spass gemacht.
Danke Alfa Romeo😍für die schöne Zeit mit meinem Alfasid Ti.😘
I had a 146 with a boxer. Loved the engine.
Those engines are perhaps more appreciated now than they've ever been, at least here in Italy. Buyers back then complained about the fuel consumption, mostly.
Great engine that boxer. I had an Alfasud sc 1.3 model year 82 and a 33 sport wagon 1.3 model your 93. What great cars that where! Thank you once again for these super great video’s!
Great to see you here again my friend 🎉
Loved my 33 sportwagon 1.7 16 v💖 great little engine, what a noise😷👍
Couldn't agree more!
Keep it as long, as you can drive.
I always wanted to drop a 1.7L last evolution in an AlfaSud Sprint Veloce. That little boxer was such a pleasure to drive and sounded so throaty. It's too bad Alfa couldn't develop a 6c version of it. Adding two extra cylinders would have changed the shape of many newer Alfas.
Interesting video as always, looking forward to the next one.
Beautiful production again. Here are my two cents on this engine: I was pushing for buying a 33 1.7 i.e. in the summer of 1990, a car which I had the opportunity to borrow from a friend from time to time. It took me not long to fall in love with it, however, buying one for myself failed due to the resistance of my father who I needed as a sponsor. The Alfasud's terrible rust issues were too much for him to take. I ended up with the second most beautiful compact car of the time: the Tipo 1.4 i.e. which I drove for the next ten years.
I had a 33, rust wasn't much of a problem (apart from the driver's door), the electrics for the dash however.........
Unfortunately the severe rust issues of the early 'Suds did a lasting damage to Alfa Romeo's reputation, as your story further confirms! By the time that 33 was built, Alfa had banished already that demon, but it wasn't going to go away from people's memories anytime soon!
The Tipo was a good car, miles ahead of the 33 in pretty much every respect, so you didn't get a bad deal ;)
What a beautiful engine it was. When İ moved from my 33 1.5 to 155 ts 2.0 155 felt refined smooth but never had that rawness raciness thee 33 boxer had.Miss those old days.Very nice video sir .Thanks a bunch...
Two fwds, carrying same badge but with different spirits
studio calderini very true indeed.
Thanks - had been looking forward to this and you didn’t disappoint- great entertainment and educational all at same time . Cheers
Awesome, thank you! Glad to have matched your expectations :)
The Alfa Romeo Boxer is a fabulous engine
Great Engine❤️. I fell in love with the brand through the boxer sound
in the late 70s/beginning of the 80s. Great Video - we'll done👌☺️. Thanks for sharing it to the community 👍👏
Glad you enjoyed it!
I had many of cars with those engines, from 1.3 twin carbs to 1.7 16V, and only i can tell, are a great engine, very reliable and powerfull. Matteo thanks for incredible job, keep going!!!!
You're right, the boxer was very much overbuilt, a tough little engine indeed
Long live the Alfa Boxer!
Thank you very much for all your well documented, short and funny videos
Please go on without changing anything
Eric
I will :)
Thank you very much for your kind words
Thank you - these videos are perfect. Keep it up!
Glad you like them!
Alfa Romeo's are rare here in the USA.
I never knew that they made a boxer engine 👍
I can imagine the boxer models are unknowns in the USA, as none was ever exported there new. Here in Europe they were very successful though, creating thousands of new Alfisti that love the marque to this day
Amazing video! Really interesting infos on this masterpiece from Alfa Romeo!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Another exceptionally well presented video on perhaps the best small block known to humanity. Little compares to the sonorous growl emitted by this block when paired with Delorto's.
Love that engine with a couple of twin 40 Webber’s on there. My next Alfa is gonna be something with a flat four
The 33 was it my First Car ❤️ // This Engine was, the Best Alfa Classic Engine, 100% 👍
Cool video as usual man!
Appreciate it! Thank you for watching :)
After repeattingly eating (a lot of) dust, from a friend with a 33 carburated 1,7 I desided that it was about time to give my beautiful bmw 2002, for a new Alfa. The obvious choice was the then new 33 16V 1,7.
We gave the order for a red one, and gave some money, as a down payment. A few days later, I was passing by the dealership, and something new and awesome was at the showroom!
The all new 155 in red! I was in love with a new Italian, and some changes at the order later, I lost the opportunity to own a boxer engine at its best. No regrets. I guess, alfisti means you would love to have them all..
Great work.
The 155 was much more modern and refined, so it wasn't a bad choice after all :)
@@Matteo_Licata
That's right. In just 4 years, I did 160.000 kilometers cross-country, comfortably, at speeds that everyone though that I was speeding, while I was just grand touring!
Despite its humble underpinnings, the 155 was a great grand tourer.
It just had the unfortunate position of being the model connecting the time line between the 75 (...) and the 156 (...}
But that's another, well told story I guess.:)
@@through_changes The 155 was a shock, yes. Its Fiat roots were evident and it superseded the 75, the last old-school Alfa saloon. Enthusiasts inevitably pushed back. But it's a model that wrote fantastic pages of motorsport history, so it's a worthy part of Alfa lore nevertheless ;)
A great video yet again . Makes me miss my little Sud so much . I think now would be a good time to start featuring yourself in the videos now Matteo . Let your personality and charisma shine on screen 👍
Maybe one day! My idea has always been to let the stories and the cars be the stars, instead of drawing attention to myself. But never say never...
MY 33 BOXER ENGINE STILL GOES HARD, EVEN AFTER 250.00 KM
I believe so! These engines were very much overbuilt, hardy units.
Thank you for this video. I just restored my Alfa 145 with the boxer engine. I love the boxer, my favourite Alfa Romeo engine.
Thank you for watching! Is your 145 a 1.7?
Lovely engine, i have had the 33 with 1.5 L engine
Thank you so much! I like the old press photos of the Alfasud without door mirrors. I was told they were fitted later by the dealer or even first owner. I'm proud owner of an unrestored 1979 Sud, the car of my early childhood, and I love it. Especially the boxer sound is addictive and the car is like a time capsule. Great video! Ciao 🙋♂️
Unrestored, original 'suds like yours are very rare indeed. Congratulations!
@@Matteo_Licata Thanks. Was owned by an elderly gentleman, couldn't believe that there was almost no rust.
Congratulations.
It confirms that Alfa is the most democratic collecting marque: from the young passionate who loves a cheap 33 to a millionaire who conqueres a 8c2900 at a golden auction.
Alfa is unique
Excellent thank you 👍
Love these Engines, have two Versions in my Sud and 33. Love there Sound
Very nice! Cool cars both of them!
@@Matteo_Licata yeah an early 1.2 63 CV Alfasud and a 907 33 Double Carb :)
@@scuderiasenzasoldi8740 Cool. Early Alfasud are among my favorite models: so clean, light and sharp
Roadster Life Indeed exactly my opinion.
Had the 33 1.5 1992 new for three year. Real sport car.
Please make a video about Alfa Romeo Twin Spark engines.
I will :)
In fact, a video about the TS engine is coming this Friday ;)
I owned 33 1.5 boxer with carbs. Produced in 1990 with 105 hp.
One like is not enough! 👍🏻
Your video makes me want to keep 33 running till the exhaustion of petroleum! 😄😄🍀
:) Thank you very much!
Thanks,,,,nice job 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾🚗🚗🚗
I have owned my 1.5l 105bhp sprint for 27 years...the engine still sounds fantastic.i owned a 33 permanent 4 with the 16v quad cam engine for 3 years back in the early 2000s. That engine sounded fantastic as well and in the p4 all the sprints torque steer was gone.
The 4wd was nowhere near the system in the delta integrale or the 155q4 but its handling was exceptional.
I also hada nissan cherry europe(the arna) gti that i fitted my spare 105hp sprint qv engine into... somehow it didnt drive like a sud alas
You've owned a Cherry Europe too! Those are very rare. The Arna handled safely, but did not entertain like the 'sud, you're right. The history of the Alfa-Nissan venture is one rarely told properly, and that's why I've written a book about it. Those cars weren't sexy, but never deserved the crap everyone gave them either.
@@Matteo_Licata yes i owned a Cherry. I bought it for £50 as it had an unhappy engine..... it had snapped a timing belt..... and someone got another head and slapped it on.... most likely had not checked valve sizes or put the original cam back in..... so it didnt run very well.. i had broken a green cloverleaf sprint like mine and had a spare engine available for transplanting.... so mine had 105hp not the std 95 hp.There were a couple of them living around here back in the day..... infact i was in a competition to get my sprint with a guy called Andre who had a cherry but wanted my sprint. I posted a picture on my channel of my car ..the pictures were taken i would say mid 90s.
It was surprisingly rust free but was crashed into and written off. It had a brand new clutch in it... literally 2 weeks old. We removed it again and i stored the clutch for many years and recently it went into my sprint....
Great cars. I owned a Permanent 4 for around 15 years, great fun in the snow! The Alfasuds are the real deal. Have a couple of them I treasure.
@@gr182 i loved my P4 but it always suffered with the viscous coupling banging on the floor when i made tight turns...... i sold mine in 2003 when i bought my delta Evolution 2.. that i still own. And i still own my Sprint.. but i wish i could have kept the 33... K216ARD RIP...
My first car was a 146 1,7 boxer. I never turned on the stereo :D
...now I drive a Giulietta :)
I worked on the interiors of the Giulietta: www.roadster-life.com/post/alfa-memories
Awesome story and very cool to know :)
I think you did a really great job. I´ve had the car for 3 years now and still enjoy driving it every day, no car on the market (within my budget) I would rather drive.
I got a 2011 Alfa Rosso QV :)
Thank you very much Matteo for such a greath video! I've been allways a fan of the boxer engines and I think it's a bit sad Alfa boxer engines dissapeared. They added character and a dictinstive personality to their cars.
Many thanks!
Loved the sound especially twin carb 15ti engine
Right on!
My first Alfa was a 1977 Alfasud 1.3ti in 'Arancia Capua' (nicknamed the flying mango😉) A great little car, loved the engine. Also had a 1.5 ti later. Great cars.
Very cool! Thanks for sharing!
I bet you wish you still had it. Alfasud ti 1.3s are probably the most collectable Alfasud and the basis for the Trofeo Alfasud race cars. Rare colour too! 👍
Grazie Matteo, another interesting and entertaining vid. It’s great to hear an english speaker who can properly pronounce “quadrifoglio verde”! lol :-)
Clarkson : quatro formagio 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you! 😃
Matteo is Italian, he would be in big trouble if, he did not know how to pronounce it.
Alfasud my favourite.
How i loved my 33 16v. Maybe the Golf2 16v had a bit more horsepower, the 33 was quicker and better handling.
Great video! My first car was a 1991 33 1.7 ie 8v. Great car and engine! 🇮🇹👌🍀 My second car was a 146 1.7 16v Super engine but the car was too heavy
Right on! Yes the 145/6 weighed around 150-200 Kg more than a similarly-engined 33, taking the edge off performance markedly. I've made a video about these too, check it out ;)
ua-cam.com/video/-4J9K7gAxE8/v-deo.html
I luv the 33 opening with the two formula one racing cars...tq...
That came from a 1987 tv commercial for the 33. The two formula cars are "Alfa Boxer" formulas too, an Italian racing series that used the Alfa flat four engine.
Da ex possessore di 33 1.5 QV non posso che farti i miei complimenti!
Grazie mille! I complimenti dall'Italia fanno sempre particolarmente piacere :)
Very unfortunate that Alfa bodies rust so badly, the engines and driveline are excellent.
Forse parli delle prime Alfasud. Io ho avuto 2 Alfa 33 e tutte e due sono arrivate oltre i 10 anni praticamente intatte!
I was desperate for a car once and bought an Arna at a auction not really knowing what it was. The car (basically a Nissan cherry) looked awful but the engine was fantastic and got me into Alfa’s. I bought a Sprint later and loved it. What an engine! Thanks for making this, I now must find a late 33 😀👍
Thank you! The Arna story has always fascinated me, and that's why I made a book about it! Which Arna did you have? 1.2L?
Yes the 1.2. But it taught me how to work on the boxer engine. The sprint was 1.5 with inboard disk bakes that where a bugger to change. 🤨👍
Ciao Matteo thnx for another great video, Did Alfa or anyone that you know of ever put the boxer engine into an open wheeler car like the formula Fords .
If not I believe Alfa missed a good opportunity to reinforce sales of this great engine , the lower point of gravity by the boxer design would have made it handle very well indeed . Ciao
Here in Italy we've had the "formula boxer" championship: single seaters specifically designed to accomodate the Alfa boxer engine.
Grazie molto 👌
How I remember my first Alfa in 1985. A 1973 Alfasud. Took me a month to get it road worthy and then a month later I rolled it and it was just scrap.
I love your videos and hope to see one soon on my suggestion of the South African Alfas. I believe the 116 sold more there than worldwide. There are also great stories of 220bhp Turbo Alfettas (called 159 there) with no other modifications 😂 Also, buried engines to avoid taxes 😃
I'm working on it ;)
Can't quite make promises on when it'll be ready though, as researching it is not simple.
Really enjoy the video and especially the last part where you honor Rudolf Hruska, and the Arna, I should buy the book because I never understood why they used the body of a bland dull Japanese car with the boxer engine of Alfa. Not that the 'Sud' boxer was bad, au contraire but if the Japanese wanted their influence on the Arna the last thing they should have designed was the body of the car. Maybe a Japanese gearbox, let's face it Japanese gearboxes are bullit proof. My 1998 Impreza STi gearbox has survived a rallye and still works properly in the car.
Even though the alfasud is known for dusting away it's easier to find one than a boxer engined 145...
It does seem so, yes. Even here in Italy the boxer-engined 145/6 have all but disappeared from the roads, while I still spot regularly their Twin Spark brethren.
@@Matteo_Licata that's a shame, people don't notice until a car really starts to get rare and some people would break one for parts than keep it running.
The way it is presented here one can have impression that QV versions came alonside with 1.7 liter engine, but there were 33 and Sprint QV versions with 1.5 liter engine and 105 hp.
It's true.
you missed out the significant role it played in formula boxer series sir.
Yes, I've left the Formula Boxer out, thought it wasn't worth mentioning.
Could you make a history video of the 147??
Best Alfa Boxer engine - 33 1.7 16V QV 137 HP - 1994❤
We agree!
Make a little bit longer videos they are awesome! When will you do a 164 video? 😊
Not sure yet, but the 164 is a story that must be told!
@@Matteo_Licata finally someone will speak about this car. So underrated no one talks about it because it's fwd. But it's a train on rails on the corners! While keeping it classy and stylish
@@user-bj3fj2bg3j You know what? Here in Italy the 164 is already a classic. Good survivors command decent money too. It was one of the best cars Alfa has ever built, under many aspects.
Viva Alfa Romeo!
Miss my 33 16v
I would like to get a Sprint to go with my GTV6, but that's going to be a tall order here in the States. (I would like a 33 as well but again, not available here.)
As you know, you'd have to import one. Prices for the few nice survivors are firming up, but I doubt these will ever grow as much as 105s have done.
Motor noise perfect, speed good... but with the carburettor version a propper check every 15.000 kilometers by specialist is mandatory. 5.000 km plus than a 205 rallye ;-)
In Covid 19 lockdown, I had nothing to do for 4 months. So I researched South African Alfas. For around 2 of the 4 months. I am your expert. It is truly fascinating. An Italian man brought Alfa Romeo to life over there. It is the full passion of Alfa. There were 220bhp Alfettas made. The meatball Busso. The start of the Arna project. It is the untold story of Alfa Romeo. I believe I have expert knowledge that could help you write and speak the story. My Alfasud was built by Nissan 😳. There is so much to say here. There is World history under GATT. Apartheid. Steve Biko. It is the untold story. If you will draw my Alfasud from a photo, with that astonishing talent, I will tell you all I know 😃
Looks like we have a deal ;)
Ok, send me the links or scans of your sources, plus a pic of your Alfasud and I'll draw it.
I will try to get links etc done this week. My IT skills are a little lacking, but I should be able to do it. Thank you
Great job . Thanking you
Thank you too!
GRANDISSIMO MOTORE NON PER NIENTE DERIVA DIRETTAMENTE DAL MOTORE PORSCHE CARRERA.GRANDISSIMO ERRORE ABBANDONARE QUESTA MOTORIZZAZIONE.
next video: story of the twin spark engine per favore :)
Maybe! I'm preparing a story of the "bialbero" engine, which includes the early 8v TS engines, as they used the old engine block. 16v TS is another cattle of fish altogether, and they'll have to get their own video
@@Matteo_Licata yes i have a pratola serra unit and it's very different than the early twin sparks, it's hard to tell about the variator to the people :)
I have an Alfasud Sprint Veloce made in 1980
That's lovely, one of my favorite Alfas. Which color?
I'm consodering buying a Alfa Sprint. I wonder how the fuelinjected and catalysed boxer engines sounds compared to the carburated versions...?
They still sound pretty good. What is missing is the induction noise that the carburetted engines had which added yet more character.
@@Matteo_Licata Thanks a lot! I think it should be a carburated Sprint 😎 thanks also for your videos, i really enjoy watching them and thankfully learned about the fantastic alfa boxer engines!
Make a video for alfa romeo 146 the last model with boxer engine
ua-cam.com/video/-4J9K7gAxE8/v-deo.html
Alfisti persempre 🍀👍
One question...
Is it easy to service the cambelts?
Best regards
I've never changed one myself, so I don't really know. Will ask :)
Quite easy... first loosen the Alternator bolts to help taking the alternator/waterpump-belt off... next: 1) for the later Sud's have cambelts covered from all-around: loosen off the four 10mm screws to able taking the plastic front pieces off... 2) the older Sud's don't have the plastic front halves, so no job there... 3) open the camshaft-covers (all the 8-valve model engines, except the ones with hydraulic lifters, on those the covers are not able to open) rotate the crankshaft (clockwise by looking from front of the car) from the flywheel to find the Cyl 1 TopDeadEndMark, align it with the pointer, check that the Camshaft Timing-marks are aligned with their marks with the Camshaft Housing-marks, if not, rotate the Crankshaft one more full circle, check the Camshaft-marks alignment, they must get aligned. Now if the Camshaft-marks are aligned, loosen the Cambelt tensioner bolts, but DON'T take them off, by hand lift the other tensioner so that the Cambelt is loose, tighten the tensioner in place. On the other belt, by hand press the tensioner so that the Cambelt is loose, tigjten the tensioner. Now you can slide the old Cambelts off the Camshaft Teeth-Pulleys and from the Crankshaft Teeth-Pulleys.
Now you can put the new Cambelts in place, mske sure the Crankshaft hasn't moved, by cheking the Cyl 1 TopDeadEndMark is in place. The Cambelts must put back in the way the Crank-end first, the by holding the CamPulley in place (check the marks) and keeping the belt tight from the "straight"-side and matching the belt onto CamPulley teeth and sliding it onto it, when the belt is on, loosen the tendioner bolt and let the tensioner spring tighten the belt. Do this on both sides. NOTE: the Cyl 2/4 Bank Camshaft MAY move a bit, because it has one Valve-spring pushing, so the Camshaft-mark MAY not be aligned, but it is easy turn back in place by hand hold there and in the same time do the same procedure with the new belt there. When the both new belts are in place, check again the Crank-mark and both the Cam-marks have stayed aligned. THEN: rotate the crank by hand TWO FULL CIRCLES and check the marks alignement again. If they don't match, you must make the procedure again on the side that does not match (usually it's the 2/4 Bank side, because of the one Valve-spring pressure). If all marks matches, you (now put back the plastic front-half covers back on the newer Suds) can assemble the alternator/waterpump-belt back, adjust the belt tension and tighten the alternator bolts.
Boxer engines make a lot of sense, but now only Subaru and Porsche.
A turboed version of the 1.7 would have been nice
Yes indeed. But by the time the 1.7 16v was made, the boxer was already on borrowed time...
Great engine but the gearbox was also great
Bravo.
E fai bene a commentare in inglese, per diffondere maggiormente questi coinvolgenti servizi
Grazie! Si, la mia idea è sempre stata di raggiungere il pubblico più ampio possibile. Qualche compatriota si è lamentato, ma non importa: non obbligo nessuno a guardare ciò che produco :)
È proprio ciò che scontiamo. La diffusione della nostra storia ai più resta affidata agli stranieri appassionati
Red Sud 1.5ti with colour coded body kit in 1987, sold it for a Pug 205GTi.
Why wasn't the 33 a success?
Looking at the individual comments thumb votes over the last few months, why there is no count for "dislike" (thumbs down) any more?
Well, the 33 was a success. It’s second only to the Alfasud for number of units sold in Alfa history.
Hm, imagine a Citroën DS fitted with that 16 valve 1.7! Or a Citroën GS "sleeper"! Maybe the Fiat group should have bought Maserati and Citroën as well when they where still cheap to get. :-)
Well, Agnelli did want to buy Citroen back in the late 60s, but in the end the deal was called off because of the French government's opposition.
@@Matteo_Licata Well, selling it to Peugeot i stead did Citroën a ton of good. NOT! Ah well, at least we still got cars like the BX and XM. Come to think of it: The Alfa boxer in a BX would also have been a nice fit. :-)
a 100+ PS GS? Nice idea ... though I fear, the dampers and tires would need a major, obvious update.
I am guessing this engine had equal length exhaust headers (like Toyota GT86 today) as it never really had the throb of say a VW flat four or a Subaru. It always sounded more like an inline four.
No. It wasn't easy to have an equal length exhaust manifold clear the discs of the inboard brakes so production alfasuds had a less than optimal straight-pipe manifold with very long uneven 4->2 pipes connecting the cylinders of the same bank. When the Alfasud Trofeo was designed Autodelta designed a cross-piped tuned manifold barely clearing the discs that would connect cylinders from opposing sides. This manifold made a difference and was copied by tuners of the era despite being hard to build.
Secondo il mio personale punto di vista ,male ha’ fatto l’Alfa a rinunciare al boxer e ancora peggio al 4 x 4 era una buonissima meccanica con un ottimo baricentro ,se mai andava aggiornata ai tempi attuali .
Personalmente sono d'accordo, un vero peccato
Sorry to be picky but the 1.5 litre has an exact capacity of 1490 cc not 1570 as shown in the video.
No need to apologize when one is right! It's me that I have to apologize for the oversight! Yes, 1490cc was the correct number, while 1570cc was the capacity of the "bialbero" 1.6L of the Giulia. I'll write a disclaimer in the description. Thank you for pointing it out!
@@Matteo_Licata I have a much loved Sud 1.5 ti that I purchased new in 1980.
Really enjoy all your informative posts. Thanks.
Parlamento italiano.....subito si nota la grande mole di lavoro cui solitamente sono sottoposti i nostri parlamentari
Best engine to put into a subaru brat
That’s a cool idea!
Who is designer of Alfa Romeo Boxer engine?
The responsible was the great Rudolf Hruska
Reminds me of Subaru, but the Alfas look better but rust too quick…pity
I had the 33 1.7 clover veloce, and the 146 1.7. They both went through gearbox differentials big time.
Wonderful cars. The 33 was killed by rust, and it still upsets me,
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Ouch, sad your cool 33 is no more. UK winters tend to destroy every car, it seems... 33s and 75s here in Italy don't rust, even after all these years, while I clearly remember how the previous Alfas rusted even here!