I assume they went with malice because since she was releasing with reed They wanted to do the Maker, which is evil. Mr. Fantastic, they found evil invisible woman.
@@P4trickSt4rmie They are both supports and have a white color scheme with blond highlights. When you play a game from a distance they look very similar. I really think they should have stuck with the classic Blue as the default skin.
"I'm Nando v. Movies everywhere" Elsewhere, at an undisclosed time: "So I would like to open a bank account. First name Nando, last name Movies. You need my middle initial? That would be v."
it is a crazy gooner skin even in the comics it came from but i say live and let live lmao, i dont think anyone who isn’t nose deep in twitter actually cares that much unless there was just a different skin they were hoping for or something
@@verymelonman12 i mean, most ppl who play the game don’t know the origins of that costume so i think it’s pretty useful he does this. he’s been doing this for marvel snap for a while so imo it’s only natural he extends it to rivals as well.
0:58 It's a theme. The Maker is a canonical, evil Reed Richards. Malice is a canonical 'evil' Sue Richards. 2:40 Dude, Malice is literally the turning point between Invisible Girl to Invisible Woman. It's a pretty big deal to her exclusively.
I just appreciate that most heroes seem to be getting a villain counterpart as a skin (and vice versa for villains). And of course the dolphin suit for Jeff 🦈🐬
@@jayjohnscreations I guess there's that. Guess I was thinking more like Black Suit, Spider-Carnage, some version of Man-Spider, or Goblin Possessed Spider-Man
The first time I saw a Malice costume, I didn't keep line of sight because I thought she was Hela, and then got frustrated because I couldn't see our support anywhere
The people who wrote the second Malice story (where Malice was an alien entity) did not understand what the first writers were saying with the character at all.
Yeah I don’t tend to care for costumes like the malice one but in rivals the art is so stylized that it just kinda works I guess? Like it doesn’t really bother me. Even the default sue storm skin has a huge behind but it still kinda fits the art style imo anyway.
@@troy6646not really, she was being criticized for doing something normal with her human body, people don’t like that the first skin released for an otherwise non-half-naked character is half naked + the choice was made by male developers. it’s actually peculiar that you link them as the same when they’re objectively not lmfao
Cosmetics are just that... cosmetics. Something sexy can be cool, and Malice looks COOL. People getting awkward playing it or seeing it are sexually awkward and that has nothing to do with the game or the design itself, it's a personal flaw. If you can't see something sexy without feeling uncomfortable you need to wrap your head around some things...
@@justarandomaccount7011 ...kinda sounds like youre the nutcase.. do you consider sex evil? Or is gender evil? Perhaps its the acceptance of a female form your jealous of? ...Whatever the case, it sounds like a "personal flaw", and that "you need to wrap your head around some things".😅
It's a classic costume. I really appreciate the devs for pulling from source material. Her malice comic is news enough to go read it, and it's pretty good. I love that the devs are willing to be bold, and it's a breath of fresh air.
And it's not like the costume is a 100% copy. They added their own flair that actually covers more than the actual comic suit. So what's the problem really?
The fact that Malice Sue Storm was defeated by Reed emotionally abusing her to snap Sue out of it is both WILD and hilarious to read... comics are fun🤣😂 I do like Malice's design in Marvel Rivals and Im very happy more people are showing love to Sue Storm (albeit a very different definition of "love"😅🍑). Sue is one of rhe best female superheroes in comics and such a great character who is truly a fantastic wife, mother, sister, superhero, scientist etc... she truly is a woman who can do it all and arguably the most powerful member of rhe F4 who acts as the glue that keeps the team together.
The Psylocke skin is the most revealing version of any costume she's had. They could have given a very similar look but closed the hip cutout a little bit
11:19 Given all the ridiculous costumes comics have thrown at us, it's really funny that all of a sudden we're supposed to see a skimpy outfit and think _now_ it's gone too far.
This was probably a little after the mass censorship of comics, I’m guessing though since this comic was even aloud to be published with sue in this costume but there was a lot of censorship for comics around the golden age of superheroes.
@Tavi78 it's not good enough 😤😤 I also don't really like the trunks they put him in for the movie, they make him feel less connected to marine life. They look great with the loincloth but with just the trunks it feels like they're just afraid of the original brief cut :/
I mean those two are literally just coincidence, mods were always going to be banned my guy, an open door for modifying game files is an open door for cheating
18:40 “Oh my gosh, a gladiator Hulk, when was he a gladiator? And they’ll read planet hulk and they’ll love it.” I picked up FF 280 and 281 last time I went to the comic store a week before this skin dropped. Haven’t gotten to read them yet but Nando does what Nando does best
They very well could do that in the future but the game is still pretty new and im sure they wanna space out what skins they add. There are some big ones for other characters that still aren't in either, like Spider-Man doesn't even have the black suit yet.
Honestly I wasn’t even that interested in marvel rivals until I started seeing the skins for psylocke and invisible woman. And after playing for a little while, it just feels like such a breath of fresh air compared to overwatch, which has been stale af for years now.
Unrelated to the video, but since Jason Mamoa has been recently cast as Lobo I'd love a Nando Cut dive into that character, even tho he usually does them for Marvel because of Marvel Snap.
Great video Nando! Always a pleasure watching. A lot of people are misunderstanding/misrepresenting what people are saying about Sue's Malice skin and some of the other alt. skins for female characters in the game. It's not a problem that they're sexy, it's not even really a problem that they're unrealistic -- the only issue is the disproportionality in the sex appeal of the male skins and female skins. Relatively few of the male hero designs/skins seem to appeal to what women find sexually appealing, and instead lean far more into a male power fantasy design philosophy. This isn't an absolute rule in he game of course -- Bast's Chosen Black Panther skin and the MCU Namor skin and a couple of the Winter Soldier skins feel like they better fit that sort of 'female gaze' philosophy. On the flip side, not too many of the female characters feel like they were necessarily designed as a female power fantasy (Wanda, Mantis, and Magik in their base forms might be some of the better examples of a kind of female power fantasy philosophy as opposed to a male sexual gaze philosophy). People enjoy playing as sexy characters, but they don't always enjoy playing as objectified characters. When a player chooses to equip the Malice skin, that isn't Sue Storm herself enjoying her own sexual liberation -- it's a real person dressing up a digital doll to best tickle their sexual curiosities. And that's fine! The only proposed changes I've heard from people talking about the Malice skin or the Psylocke skin are that male characters need comparable sexualization (visible bulges, emphasized buttocks, more diverse body types, etc.) by doing things like implementing more such skins (swimsuit edition comes to mind xD) or to design sexy female costumes with female empowerment in mind, just like how many of the male costumes already in the game are very form-fitting or even revealing while still appealing more to a male power fantasy than a female sexual gaze. Again, sexiness is great, the only problem is that currently it's straight male fans getting catered too the most. Is that more economically viable? Perhaps. Is that a valid artistic choice? Of course. Is it what everyone will want? No. Should people be talking about this? Why not, it's a fun and interesting subject that gets people thinking. Should people be complaining? People can and will do whatever they want forever so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It’s a rather dumb argument because skins like malaise and the psylocke weren’t just crated by the devs. They’re actual designs from the comic history. Looks that fans would see and will go “oh my god I want that!” And spend money these skins have a history. Yes there’s another issue that females get skimpy outfits in the costume but that’s a different arguments and besides: the malice costume was actually far worst in the comics. The rivals version actually shows how twisted the moment was by adding the hints of bondage thanks to the wraps around her chest
Thanks for writing the exact comment I wanted to. Talking about variety and context of skins isn't 'getting mad' it's literally just discussing the game and what we as players wanna see in it
I guess, but parts of the argument fall apart when you realize there are a lot of straight women purchasing these more revealing outfits because they like feeling sexy and view it as empowering. Not to mention like you yourself said, the game does have female characters that are empowering to women who don’t find sexy characters empowering, so the game is doing both. The men are also heavily being thirsted over on social media by women, because women like dudes with handsome faces and muscles. Emphasizing the bulge or butt cheeks also isn’t really a comparable trade, since IRL men don’t usually show off their bulge or butt cheeks as opposed to women who do wear clothing that emphasizes their butt or boobs. It would come off as a lot more jarring to both men and women if the dudes start having a super emphasized bulge specifically, which is why in movies and shows made by women that sexualize men, they often highlight the muscles, face, and romantic features of the men, not the butt or bulge.
Fun fact susan storm was offered so many modeling jobs in the comics and many kings and rulers wanted her And even the skrull emperor wanted her as his concubine/ wife
If you want an example of a male character dressed kind of risqué, Beast fans get a lot of incidental fan service since most artists keep putting him in what is basically just spandex briefs. I think that when they were first making the character and his outfit, they just assumed no one would be interested in the big hairy guy in *that* way. They were super wrong 😋
Fun fact about that Magneto skin. The spanish royal house tried to force Marvel to delete or change that outfit because the first drawing it appeared on was traced over a Juan Carlos I portrait.
Great video! I love to learn the back lore of these costumes! #subbed Personally, I love the skin and I’m working on saving my earned credits to get it.
Sometimes the gooners make me want to roll my eyes, but really it's not that serious. Let people have their fun . The world is a harsh place and life is too short. Great video by the way👍
For everyone wondering why even make this vid: it's for me. Thank u Nando. I was mildly wondering why Sue, the mom character from Fantastic 4, got a very revealing outfit as her 1 alternate skin. Not that it's -Bad-, just, curious, but not enough to actually look it up. Hopefully we'll get a larger variety of skins for everyone in the future, for gooners and non-gooners alike
@@DavidSilva-mn4dz Ah you're right of course - I was thinking of skins that go beyond a minor change or recolor, but that clearly change the model and sometimes theme of the character. Iirc every character has at least one, some have two - a recolor is fine but i always look forward to seeing the creativity of the designers in those remodels
The skin is fine for what it is, and where it’s at. If people want to discuss about the ethicality of adding provocative material into media, I would encourage us to have that discussion which is much more impactful.
Funny how he was like Oh no to the female costumes but yes to the male costumes I'm just saying always weird to see that opinion come from a guy sometimes. But the reason why I did it is because they need a evil Sue Storm and that's really the only time she was really evil besides in the Ultimate Universe where she was alternate reality version of Kang the conqueror Don't nobody want that. Plus sex sales You know what I mean just like you want those men outfits we want the women outfits just saying
14:37 wolverine's weapon x outfit is not the same a sue's malice costume one was intended to to show power and strength as in "look how muscular this guy is" and the other was made mainly for fan service and to look sexy
Eh while yes the Malice costume was fan service it actually served a purpose in the story. If you go back and read the story it is clear that Sue has some suppressed issues that Psycho Man uses his powers to turn against the Fantastic Four. Two of which is her repressed self esteem (calling back to the early issues of the F4 where Sue gets fan letters that say she can't be a female superhero despite Reed himself thinking of her as the strongest member) and sexual desire (which may have also been heightened by the miscarriage she recently gone through at the time). So yes it can provide fan service AND be used to further empathisize the story (though even the Marvel writers seemed to miss this nuance as a later story tries to retcon Malice as something wrong and alien to Susan Storm).
I have no issue with the Malice costume. It’s honestly well adapted and re-designed and still pays homage to the origins. HOWEVER. My is the double standards. If Sue can have her breast float while she’s sitting and her ass jiggle while she jumps then my (and her) boy Namor should be allowed to be a slut too, give him a thong that exposes 3/4 of those cheeks, pulsating breast and shaped cake with jiggle physics over whatever shorts and square bum that his current skins with less sex appeal than a rock have now. It’s only what is true to his character. And if it makes someone uncomfortable… unpack those feelings or don’t buy it lol
Wasn’t wolverine mind controlled, experimented on, and exploited when he was wearing that costume? I would argue that look is wolverine at one of those lowest and worst portions of his life.
If you play the game it makes sense, most skins offered this season are their evil sides. Reed gets The Maker, the battlepass has their demonic theme costumes
16:29 who cares? The people who matter knows you're not. In fact, you may just be the only person online who made an in depth video on the costume. It's not hurting anyone to buy the skin
Is there an evil persona of The Human Torch (Johnny Storm) and The Thing (Ben Grimm)? Not sure what kind of alternative costumes they would use for those characters in Marvel Rivals.
Honestly that was clear from the start with picking Galacta as the game's narrator in the first place instead of The Watcher or Madame Web or The Beyonder or He Who Remains or any of the numerous other characters it could have been
@@marcusclark1339right like I’m gay and I buy them in a cunty way and I’m sure the woman fanbase does as well so it’s not just straight men demanding these skins
@@marcusclark1339 nah, be honest the Malice skin does have sex appeal and has a lot more of it than other skins, and I’m here for it, you shouldn’t lie to yourself.
People who are upset about this skin just aren’t comic fans and don’t know the context. It’s a cool interpretation of her malice outfit in the comics. She doesn’t have the cape but the actual outfit on the skin is MORE covered up than her comic outfit. I LOVE evil doppelgänger skins so I bought this one and the Maker skin
I feel like you’re trying to bait a response out of him, if you actually watched the video you’d see that not one time did he mention outrage, literally just clarifying why she has that skin to begin with and it’s comic origins
honestly I find the single hot woman body type in this game (besides the one exception of squirrel girl) to be exceptionally boring. I've had almost no prior exposure to marvel so I don't have any of the context and I'm simply going off of character design. but I like lots of types of women, not every hot woman is wide hips, big boobs and big butt! where's the petite girl love, or the muscle mommies or tall girlies?? hell, I love playing ana because a badass elderly woman who's seen it all and doesn't take any bs is cool as hell. some variety would just go a long way to making the game roster more interesting. overwatch is a great example of this and that game certainly has its share of conventionally attractive women.
Marvel Rivals has variety though so I don’t know what the issue is. They have petite girls (Peni), girls that don’t have huge busts or butt (Scarlet Witch or Luna Snow), tall women, although not crazy tall (Psylocke). The only ones you mentioned that they don’t have is an elderly woman or a muscle mommy. And guess what? They WILL add the latter because She-Hulk is a popular Marvel character that will not be excluded from the game. And she’s a super tall muscle mommy who stands on business! They have their variety, just because Invisible Woman is a conventional, Marilyn Monroe type woman with a curvy figure, and is almost always portrayed this way in the comics too doesn’t mean that the game lacks variety. And while it is more obscure and less likely to be added in the game, powerful elderly women exist in Marvel comics too, like Madam Web for example. As a matter of fact, there’s MORE diversity for the female characters in this game than the males. As a guy, I don’t see anyone complaining about almost EVERY male character being super jacked or handsome, more than 80% of the male cast being so much so that many guys will struggle to achieve that physique EVEN if they used both steroids and years of weight training religiously as well as bulked and slept 10 hours a day. But you know what, I don’t mind because this is gaming and it’s a hero shooter. I’m not bothered about inclusion and I wouldn’t ask for them to try to specifically look for characters who may be very old, skinny or somewhat overweight just for the sake of inclusion. It’s better that they are comic accurate or good looking if that’s how the character is supposed to be. And I have no issue with them being more diverse or going against the trend as long as it makes sense and there’s a reason for it. If a character like the Blob gets added to the game, I EXPECT that he should look like an inhumanly large overweight moderator who eats too much and looks like he’s never worked out a day in his life because that’s what that character is. I’d actually be disappointed if he looked all handsome and obviously jacked. But if they make characters look too diverse for the sake of keeping people feeling good about themselves or inclusion specifically, instead of just making characters that people want or like to see, you get something like Concord and no one wants to look at that. Both the guys and girls in this game are meant to look hot, why does it have to be an issue for girl characters only? There’s no elderly male badass characters but that’s not an issue. The characters look good, there’s diversity, and that’s okay
@@Mo-.except that's not really the case though. peni is more mech than anything and is still just hot woman but slightly shorter, Scarlet witch is just hot woman with a bit more clothing, Luna snow is just hot woman with slightly flatter chest and psylocke is literally just another hot woman, you can't even judge her height very well in game but she seems average. my problem is that the "diversity" is just "hot woman with extra feature". comparing male and female representations in this type of media is not a valid comparison, men and women have entirely different roles in the patriarchy, one that favours the men and expects women to conform to specific standards and exploits them when it does. men being scantily clad has no where near the level of exploitation because women aren't the ones who are catered for primarily in media, nor are we the ones exploiting male bodies for our own gazes. it's historically been men exploiting women's bodies because men hold the dominant power position in society over women. I don't have a problem with hot women being in video games - I'm bi, I like boobs and butts as much as anyone does - I just don't want there to be one type of hot woman or only hot women.
X-Men 97 also had Bastion's choice (as in THAT WAS A CHOICE) to strip Magneto down to just a speedo in captivity. People would pay good money to play Rivals as Speedo Magneto.
you really think so? it could be really funny, but idk how many people would want to spend money on a skin like that. Plus a speedo is just not as aesthetically cool as Malice.
@@ashbha4138it’s the internet, people here be thirsty af, of course people would pay for that skin lmao Malice Sue is literally gonna fund the next 3 seasons
Yeah, Rogue's Savage Land outfit is important because it's part of her connecting with Magneto in a meaningful way. That yes sorry Magneto/Rogue ship haters, was part of their romantic relationship being possibly a thing. So like you say, these outfits aren't just cheesecake, I mean they are, but it's not only that. There are interesting comic stories as part of them. That's how they get so iconic.
I wish the costume had pants. Like, I love ass as much as the next bisexual woman, but the bottom doesn’t match the top. The fit looks unfinished. Still bought it because it’s a spooky version of my main
I like the comparison you make of Sue’s malice skin to Psylocke’s vengeance skin. I’m one of those people who admittedly likes the attractiveness of the skins. I bought Psylocke’s as soon as I saw it because I’m a huge psylocke fan and to me that is the iconic Psylocke appearance, on top of being really attractive. It’s the one everyone thinks about. Then I saw Sue’s skin and “oh I have to buy that” because it’s hot or whatever. But then i realized I don’t really have a connection to the costume or to the arc it represents. The original suit in the comics looks awful. So I held off on it for now.
The sleeveless Hickman suit with the ponytail is a good Suit. Also the skirt and heals of one variation in the classic costume. The square logo with her mommy short hair is a good variation, the baggy og overall and the first jumpsuit with a hooddie of the first issue, in some reprinst the suit is purple, really Challenger of The Unknown. The Red and Black before the cancelation is another interesting variant and the more tech one is the 2000s animated show with the orange logo. A good callback could be have The FF with civilians clothes like her pink three piece outfit, really Jackie Kennedy. Also The FF Full Circle by Alex Ross is so shinny
bro no one knows about that. hopefully that does become a MCU movie in the future though. Exiles exist since the start of MCU. hence the over doing of the multiverse.
I really don't think its that complicated. It's a free to play game, with a large male majority audience. They make money off micro-transactions, and lots of people would buy this costume.
I didn't know you were a huge She-Hulk fan! Can I run my She-Hulk Marvel Rivals character concept by you? I think the strongest argument to include her is to get a woman with a different (if even slightly) silhouette in the game. Also she'd be able to have some fun 4th wall breaking quips. --------------------------------- She-Hulk (Duelist) Primary Fire: Melee combo (Duh) Ability 1- Debris Projectile: She-Hulk grabs a couch sized piece of the ground and tosses it at the enemy for big splash damage and slight knock back. Can throw it straight or in a slight arc if the button is held. (Similar to Squirrel Girl's squirrels) Ability 2 - Sprint (Short duration similar to Widow, but can cancel it into one of three moves) Ability 2A - Super jump Ability 2B - Drop Kick: Damage and knock one enemy a big distance backwards. (There's not enough "BOOPS" in this game) Ability 2C - Ground Slide: Damage and knock multiple enemies up into the air for follow up attacks. Ability 3 - "I Object!": Uses her gamma irradiated blood to sustain herself/shrug off injuries and regen health briefly. Ultimate Ability - "Giant Swing" Throw: Similar to Hulk's ability that grabs one character. This would grab one character by the legs and swing them around a few times in a giant arc, hitting other enemies at the same time, then throw the grabbed enemy a great distance.
Just buy the skin if u like it, she look like a demon. Sure she got the cheeks out but let's be real, it looks so good because the one from the comics looked like.... not good
hey defenders of this skin, please just say you like to goon and game at the same time, these excuses like “this is just like real woman being confident” or “tHe cOsTumEs hAvE alWaYs bEeN sKimPy” when they objectively haven’t been nearly as bad as the original malice costume since the 80-90s for a REASON are total bs and so easy to see through. just be upfront that you want to look at a half naked female character in your game.
Comic book characters have always been hot, that's part of their appeal. If you get this worked up about a woman in a leotard or something, seek help. And possibly a break from twitter might help with the brainrot. Absolutely hilarious. No one wants to play as some fat ugly character. It's fantasy, if people want to enjoy sexy cosmetics, let them. No need to project your weird perception of sexuality onto others.
I mean it’s an option skin. You don’t have to buy it. It’s that simple. You don’t have to have a panic attack because some people like it while you don’t lol
I have to correct you at some point. Mercy already HAS a villain-y outfit. It's not as revealing and provocative as it is from Malice, but she has an evil persona Costume after all.
It's tasteless, but the people that buy it are subsidizing the game for me, so I'm not gonna complain one bit. It at least looks a little more visually interesting than the original
I assume they went with malice because since she was releasing with reed They wanted to do the Maker, which is evil. Mr. Fantastic, they found evil invisible woman.
Also they have a lot of evil darkhold themed skin in the battle pass and the skin fits in with those.
Also, we need another skin because dagger and Sue look the same and need something to make them look different
@@darrickfranklin7096how do they look the same
@@P4trickSt4rmie They are both supports and have a white color scheme with blond highlights. When you play a game from a distance they look very similar.
I really think they should have stuck with the classic Blue as the default skin.
@ man its gonna only get worst when they put emma frost in, than we have THREE blonde characters with simliar hairstlyes wearing white clothes.
Love island house was extremely accurate during the Krakoa era
Especially considering one of their main laws was to make more mutants 😂
Xmen has always been a soap opera 😂
@@Noah5110 xmen is fully at its best when it goes full days of our lives w/ super powers
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Interesting
She DOES actually mention in Rivals that Val and Franklin are their kids.
she mentions kids with powers jea, are we sure its them tho?
"I'm Nando v. Movies everywhere"
Elsewhere, at an undisclosed time: "So I would like to open a bank account. First name Nando, last name Movies. You need my middle initial? That would be v."
“Name?”
“Movies. Nando v. Movies.”
Casually Comics has a great video on the topic as well! I can't wait to watch this one, but I do want to shout out hers as well.
^^ Casually Comics did a great deep dive into the character.
I just watched her vid the other day and is a great addition to this video
I totally agree. Our video is such a good deep dive into it. This video is more of a supplement to that.
I love her interpretation of the story. She even says “the writer probably didn’t intend any of this, but…”.
I was about to say this lol 😂she did great deep dive on the whole thing
I mean like...I don't understand any commotion about it. Its a video game skin. I bought it because its fun. If you don't like it, don't buy it.
some people have literally nothing better to do with their lives than complain and call everyone gooners 😭
it is a crazy gooner skin even in the comics it came from but i say live and let live lmao, i dont think anyone who isn’t nose deep in twitter actually cares that much unless there was just a different skin they were hoping for or something
It gets viewer traffic to his channel. I like Nando but that's pretty much all this is, jumping on a bandwagon while the topic is fresh.
@@verymelonman12 i mean, most ppl who play the game don’t know the origins of that costume so i think it’s pretty useful he does this. he’s been doing this for marvel snap for a while so imo it’s only natural he extends it to rivals as well.
Agreed
0:58 It's a theme. The Maker is a canonical, evil Reed Richards. Malice is a canonical 'evil' Sue Richards.
2:40 Dude, Malice is literally the turning point between Invisible Girl to Invisible Woman. It's a pretty big deal to her exclusively.
maybe watch the full video before you comment for that second timestamp lmao
someone didn’t watch the whole video
In the game it literally tells you where the skins first appeared too.
@@wolfwatch9731lol.. he’s just trained to “outrage culture”. Reads the headline, gets upset, puts it down to tell everyone how upset he is.
I just appreciate that most heroes seem to be getting a villain counterpart as a skin (and vice versa for villains).
And of course the dolphin suit for Jeff 🦈🐬
Be interesting to see what they do for Spidey by that logic given he has a few "evil" costumes
@@CS08129 Spider-Man's recolour skin is Chasm
@@jayjohnscreations I guess there's that. Guess I was thinking more like Black Suit, Spider-Carnage, some version of Man-Spider, or Goblin Possessed Spider-Man
What I’m getting here is that dolphins are just evil sharks
@@CS08129probably went with chasm cause it can be a simple re-colour out and it’s not to be confused by another character
The first time I saw a Malice costume, I didn't keep line of sight because I thought she was Hela, and then got frustrated because I couldn't see our support anywhere
😂😂😂😂
The people who wrote the second Malice story (where Malice was an alien entity) did not understand what the first writers were saying with the character at all.
The online discussion on this feels like when billie eilish did that photo shoot and everyone forgot she was a girl that could dress like a girl
Oh... kayyyy?
@trilliamcosby meaning people are being weird about it for no reason
found the simp
Yeah I don’t tend to care for costumes like the malice one but in rivals the art is so stylized that it just kinda works I guess? Like it doesn’t really bother me. Even the default sue storm skin has a huge behind but it still kinda fits the art style imo anyway.
@@troy6646not really, she was being criticized for doing something normal with her human body, people don’t like that the first skin released for an otherwise non-half-naked character is half naked + the choice was made by male developers. it’s actually peculiar that you link them as the same when they’re objectively not lmfao
Pretty sure they made the The Maker skin for Reed first, then wondered if his wife also had an evil version
Cosmetics are just that... cosmetics. Something sexy can be cool, and Malice looks COOL. People getting awkward playing it or seeing it are sexually awkward and that has nothing to do with the game or the design itself, it's a personal flaw. If you can't see something sexy without feeling uncomfortable you need to wrap your head around some things...
Unfathomably nutcase take
I think it also has to do with some people in the internet being really weird about sexy characters and the desire to not being lumped with them
@@justarandomaccount7011 what’s so wrong about this take, I’d like to know your thoughts cause I don’t really see anything wrong here.
@@justarandomaccount7011it’s really not tho
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...kinda sounds like youre the nutcase.. do you consider sex evil? Or is gender evil? Perhaps its the acceptance of a female form your jealous of? ...Whatever the case, it sounds like a "personal flaw", and that "you need to wrap your head around some things".😅
I love that the Malice skin shows _less_ in that it has the chest wraps while also showing _more_ because the cape is gone. Love that for her. ❤️
Also she’s wearing tights instead of bare skin. She’s technically wearing more than the original version of the costume.
I'm mean, of course. It's a third-person game. 😂
They like to balance out the uh- well you know. Most skins show less cleavage and skin in general while extra emphasizing the female figure.
Right but there is not much fabric on the most important part…
@@brandcamacho2899 ur saying the rear is the most important hmm? idk man that's debatable, quite the biased opinion if i say so lol
It's a classic costume. I really appreciate the devs for pulling from source material. Her malice comic is news enough to go read it, and it's pretty good. I love that the devs are willing to be bold, and it's a breath of fresh air.
And it's not like the costume is a 100% copy. They added their own flair that actually covers more than the actual comic suit. So what's the problem really?
The day they add a beta ray bill skin or character is the day I die of happiness
The fact that Malice Sue Storm was defeated by Reed emotionally abusing her to snap Sue out of it is both WILD and hilarious to read... comics are fun🤣😂
I do like Malice's design in Marvel Rivals and Im very happy more people are showing love to Sue Storm (albeit a very different definition of "love"😅🍑). Sue is one of rhe best female superheroes in comics and such a great character who is truly a fantastic wife, mother, sister, superhero, scientist etc... she truly is a woman who can do it all and arguably the most powerful member of rhe F4 who acts as the glue that keeps the team together.
Don’t forget he also slapped her across the face at one point in the comic 😭
The Psylocke skin is the most revealing version of any costume she's had. They could have given a very similar look but closed the hip cutout a little bit
11:19 Given all the ridiculous costumes comics have thrown at us, it's really funny that all of a sudden we're supposed to see a skimpy outfit and think _now_ it's gone too far.
This was probably a little after the mass censorship of comics, I’m guessing though since this comic was even aloud to be published with sue in this costume but there was a lot of censorship for comics around the golden age of superheroes.
If they can give Sue Storm this skin, then why can't they put Namor in his speedo??
he’s wearing practically nothing already in his alt skin
@Tavi78 it's not good enough 😤😤
I also don't really like the trunks they put him in for the movie, they make him feel less connected to marine life. They look great with the loincloth but with just the trunks it feels like they're just afraid of the original brief cut :/
@@martinkelly1233 sure sure marine life...
They knew what they were doing releasing this skin basically the same day that they banned modded outfits 💀
I mean those two are literally just coincidence, mods were always going to be banned my guy, an open door for modifying game files is an open door for cheating
18:40 “Oh my gosh, a gladiator Hulk, when was he a gladiator? And they’ll read planet hulk and they’ll love it.” I picked up FF 280 and 281 last time I went to the comic store a week before this skin dropped. Haven’t gotten to read them yet but Nando does what Nando does best
Sue Storm's embarrassingly cringe "bad girl" costumes from the comics are reason enough to give Rivals a redesigned Malice. Sue deserves a do-over.
not cringe its purposefully over the top to emphasize the point
Nah. The design is great and shows the devs aren't cowards.
Are you saying your glad they redesigned her malice outfit? Or that you don’t like the Rivals version
Why? Why not?
Now that I think about it they totally could’ve just given Sue her Kang outfit from the ultimate universe
I think they're trying to make skins for Sue and Reed with the same letters. Malice and Maker.
They very well could do that in the future but the game is still pretty new and im sure they wanna space out what skins they add. There are some big ones for other characters that still aren't in either, like Spider-Man doesn't even have the black suit yet.
I literally said the same. It's obvious why we got this one, ngl.
@@Panimal98 you say that as if it's a problem
Great take on Sue Storm always having to keep it together
In addition to being sexy, the Malice skin looks badass. But no one ever talks about that because "le gooner".
Honestly I wasn’t even that interested in marvel rivals until I started seeing the skins for psylocke and invisible woman.
And after playing for a little while, it just feels like such a breath of fresh air compared to overwatch, which has been stale af for years now.
Unrelated to the video, but since Jason Mamoa has been recently cast as Lobo I'd love a Nando Cut dive into that character, even tho he usually does them for Marvel because of Marvel Snap.
Malice has the power to possess people and make them Evil and Sexy.
Dawg after the Psylock skin idk how anyone can see this as that much more extreme 😂😂
Right like they literally toned down the version from the comics😂
@ right? 🤣 Like I’m more surprised the boob window one wasn’t added first
dont compare psylock with her we can see the difference bro
@@Boatanga ok but what does that have to do with it being a kid's game....
1:25 I think it's called a jump suit
Gooners Assemble
It’s not that big of deal it’s based of a evil version of sue storm that some people that are aware of just like that added a skin of the maker
I ask Why Not?… the Malice outfit is a cool design.
I guarantee you because of Marvel's rivals making susan malice popular
Marvel is going to bring back malice susan Back to Into the main comic universe
So… when are we getting a Rivals character/skin wishlist video from you?
confused not the word I'd use my guy 🤜🤛
Speaking of the Savage Land, I really want them to add Ka-Zar to the game. I wanna see a cave man chucking spears at Magneto. It would be funny.
Yo, finally somebody remembers Ka-Zar. Now that you mention Ka-Zar, another fun addition to Marvel Rivals could be Sauron from the Savage Land
@@aimanmarzuqi4804 Yeah, rivals needs more villains on the roster
Great video Nando! Always a pleasure watching.
A lot of people are misunderstanding/misrepresenting what people are saying about Sue's Malice skin and some of the other alt. skins for female characters in the game. It's not a problem that they're sexy, it's not even really a problem that they're unrealistic -- the only issue is the disproportionality in the sex appeal of the male skins and female skins. Relatively few of the male hero designs/skins seem to appeal to what women find sexually appealing, and instead lean far more into a male power fantasy design philosophy. This isn't an absolute rule in he game of course -- Bast's Chosen Black Panther skin and the MCU Namor skin and a couple of the Winter Soldier skins feel like they better fit that sort of 'female gaze' philosophy. On the flip side, not too many of the female characters feel like they were necessarily designed as a female power fantasy (Wanda, Mantis, and Magik in their base forms might be some of the better examples of a kind of female power fantasy philosophy as opposed to a male sexual gaze philosophy). People enjoy playing as sexy characters, but they don't always enjoy playing as objectified characters. When a player chooses to equip the Malice skin, that isn't Sue Storm herself enjoying her own sexual liberation -- it's a real person dressing up a digital doll to best tickle their sexual curiosities. And that's fine! The only proposed changes I've heard from people talking about the Malice skin or the Psylocke skin are that male characters need comparable sexualization (visible bulges, emphasized buttocks, more diverse body types, etc.) by doing things like implementing more such skins (swimsuit edition comes to mind xD) or to design sexy female costumes with female empowerment in mind, just like how many of the male costumes already in the game are very form-fitting or even revealing while still appealing more to a male power fantasy than a female sexual gaze.
Again, sexiness is great, the only problem is that currently it's straight male fans getting catered too the most. Is that more economically viable? Perhaps. Is that a valid artistic choice? Of course. Is it what everyone will want? No. Should people be talking about this? Why not, it's a fun and interesting subject that gets people thinking. Should people be complaining? People can and will do whatever they want forever so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It’s a rather dumb argument because skins like malaise and the psylocke weren’t just crated by the devs. They’re actual designs from the comic history. Looks that fans would see and will go “oh my god I want that!” And spend money these skins have a history. Yes there’s another issue that females get skimpy outfits in the costume but that’s a different arguments and besides: the malice costume was actually far worst in the comics. The rivals version actually shows how twisted the moment was by adding the hints of bondage thanks to the wraps around her chest
Thanks for writing the exact comment I wanted to. Talking about variety and context of skins isn't 'getting mad' it's literally just discussing the game and what we as players wanna see in it
I guess, but parts of the argument fall apart when you realize there are a lot of straight women purchasing these more revealing outfits because they like feeling sexy and view it as empowering. Not to mention like you yourself said, the game does have female characters that are empowering to women who don’t find sexy characters empowering, so the game is doing both. The men are also heavily being thirsted over on social media by women, because women like dudes with handsome faces and muscles. Emphasizing the bulge or butt cheeks also isn’t really a comparable trade, since IRL men don’t usually show off their bulge or butt cheeks as opposed to women who do wear clothing that emphasizes their butt or boobs. It would come off as a lot more jarring to both men and women if the dudes start having a super emphasized bulge specifically, which is why in movies and shows made by women that sexualize men, they often highlight the muscles, face, and romantic features of the men, not the butt or bulge.
Fun fact susan storm was offered so many modeling jobs in the comics and many kings and rulers wanted her
And even the skrull emperor wanted her as his concubine/ wife
And namor
If you want an example of a male character dressed kind of risqué, Beast fans get a lot of incidental fan service since most artists keep putting him in what is basically just spandex briefs. I think that when they were first making the character and his outfit, they just assumed no one would be interested in the big hairy guy in *that* way. They were super wrong 😋
Well, you also have Namor in just underwear and Plastic Man basically wearing a leotard
Fun fact about that Magneto skin. The spanish royal house tried to force Marvel to delete or change that outfit because the first drawing it appeared on was traced over a Juan Carlos I portrait.
Great video! I love to learn the back lore of these costumes! #subbed
Personally, I love the skin and I’m working on saving my earned credits to get it.
Sometimes the gooners make me want to roll my eyes, but really it's not that serious. Let people have their fun . The world is a harsh place and life is too short. Great video by the way👍
It looks similar to what they did with the character speedball to edge them up and make a dark version of the character
They also picked the villain versions of both Reed and Sue, so it sticks to the theme.
For everyone wondering why even make this vid: it's for me. Thank u Nando. I was mildly wondering why Sue, the mom character from Fantastic 4, got a very revealing outfit as her 1 alternate skin. Not that it's -Bad-, just, curious, but not enough to actually look it up. Hopefully we'll get a larger variety of skins for everyone in the future, for gooners and non-gooners alike
She have a classic black and blue alt skin an the malice look
@@DavidSilva-mn4dz Ah you're right of course - I was thinking of skins that go beyond a minor change or recolor, but that clearly change the model and sometimes theme of the character. Iirc every character has at least one, some have two - a recolor is fine but i always look forward to seeing the creativity of the designers in those remodels
I really appreciate that you collect action figures. I'd love to see a collection video at some point
The skin is fine for what it is, and where it’s at. If people want to discuss about the ethicality of adding provocative material into media, I would encourage us to have that discussion which is much more impactful.
Thanks for this video. I needed the context.
Reed was like shut up woman, and Sue recovered from malice??
I guess the closest Overwatch has come has been Witch Mercy.
Funny how he was like Oh no to the female costumes but yes to the male costumes I'm just saying always weird to see that opinion come from a guy sometimes. But the reason why I did it is because they need a evil Sue Storm and that's really the only time she was really evil besides in the Ultimate Universe where she was alternate reality version of Kang the conqueror Don't nobody want that. Plus sex sales You know what I mean just like you want those men outfits we want the women outfits just saying
The skin is sexy and badass, people just want to let people play and enjoy what they want.
I want spider armor mk III so bad
14:37 wolverine's weapon x outfit is not the same a sue's malice costume one was intended to to show power and strength as in "look how muscular this guy is" and the other was made mainly for fan service and to look sexy
Eh while yes the Malice costume was fan service it actually served a purpose in the story. If you go back and read the story it is clear that Sue has some suppressed issues that Psycho Man uses his powers to turn against the Fantastic Four. Two of which is her repressed self esteem (calling back to the early issues of the F4 where Sue gets fan letters that say she can't be a female superhero despite Reed himself thinking of her as the strongest member) and sexual desire (which may have also been heightened by the miscarriage she recently gone through at the time).
So yes it can provide fan service AND be used to further empathisize the story (though even the Marvel writers seemed to miss this nuance as a later story tries to retcon Malice as something wrong and alien to Susan Storm).
@deathcon6261 I can see you watch casually comics
I have no issue with the Malice costume. It’s honestly well adapted and re-designed and still pays homage to the origins. HOWEVER. My is the double standards. If Sue can have her breast float while she’s sitting and her ass jiggle while she jumps then my (and her) boy Namor should be allowed to be a slut too, give him a thong that exposes 3/4 of those cheeks, pulsating breast and shaped cake with jiggle physics over whatever shorts and square bum that his current skins with less sex appeal than a rock have now. It’s only what is true to his character. And if it makes someone uncomfortable… unpack those feelings or don’t buy it lol
Wasn’t wolverine mind controlled, experimented on, and exploited when he was wearing that costume? I would argue that look is wolverine at one of those lowest and worst portions of his life.
@maxhocks2006 that doesn't change the fact that him being bear Chested was meant to convey his strength and show of his muscles
If by confused you mean bricked up, then yes
Marvel Snap card:
Malice (4/3) - On Reveal: Make all your cards here unrevealed, and reveal them again at the end of the game.
If you play the game it makes sense, most skins offered this season are their evil sides. Reed gets The Maker, the battlepass has their demonic theme costumes
1:08 not surprising give that with her and Mr Fantastic they we’re going for evil version of the them like the Maker.
Malice looks very similar to my underrated main from Soulcalibur 5. That's all i need since she got abandoned.
Love the Rivals content, would love to see more if you are more inclined
16:29 who cares? The people who matter knows you're not. In fact, you may just be the only person online who made an in depth video on the costume. It's not hurting anyone to buy the skin
So what I'm hearing is that the Malice costume is what Sue thought a supervillain would wear while too angry to care about anything.
Fortunately I'm not confused because I actually remember Malice from the 90's cartoon
Is there an evil persona of The Human Torch (Johnny Storm) and The Thing (Ben Grimm)? Not sure what kind of alternative costumes they would use for those characters in Marvel Rivals.
Maybe dark flames for Johnny and black rock skin for Ben? IDK.
When I saw that alternate skin, my immediate first thought was, "Yeahhh these Devs are Gooners."
They know what they doing. Immediately bought it 😅 then I realized "I literally walked right into their trap"
Honestly that was clear from the start with picking Galacta as the game's narrator in the first place instead of The Watcher or Madame Web or The Beyonder or He Who Remains or any of the numerous other characters it could have been
basic appealing design isn't gooning its just common sense honeslty
@@marcusclark1339right like I’m gay and I buy them in a cunty way and I’m sure the woman fanbase does as well so it’s not just straight men demanding these skins
@@marcusclark1339 nah, be honest the Malice skin does have sex appeal and has a lot more of it than other skins, and I’m here for it, you shouldn’t lie to yourself.
People who are upset about this skin just aren’t comic fans and don’t know the context. It’s a cool interpretation of her malice outfit in the comics. She doesn’t have the cape but the actual outfit on the skin is MORE covered up than her comic outfit. I LOVE evil doppelgänger skins so I bought this one and the Maker skin
She mentions the kids in the game
You know, the only outrage I've heard is from people claiming there's outrage. But gotta get those clicks, right, my guy?
I feel like you’re trying to bait a response out of him, if you actually watched the video you’d see that not one time did he mention outrage, literally just clarifying why she has that skin to begin with and it’s comic origins
honestly I find the single hot woman body type in this game (besides the one exception of squirrel girl) to be exceptionally boring. I've had almost no prior exposure to marvel so I don't have any of the context and I'm simply going off of character design. but I like lots of types of women, not every hot woman is wide hips, big boobs and big butt! where's the petite girl love, or the muscle mommies or tall girlies?? hell, I love playing ana because a badass elderly woman who's seen it all and doesn't take any bs is cool as hell. some variety would just go a long way to making the game roster more interesting. overwatch is a great example of this and that game certainly has its share of conventionally attractive women.
Marvel Rivals has variety though so I don’t know what the issue is. They have petite girls (Peni), girls that don’t have huge busts or butt (Scarlet Witch or Luna Snow), tall women, although not crazy tall (Psylocke). The only ones you mentioned that they don’t have is an elderly woman or a muscle mommy. And guess what? They WILL add the latter because She-Hulk is a popular Marvel character that will not be excluded from the game. And she’s a super tall muscle mommy who stands on business! They have their variety, just because Invisible Woman is a conventional, Marilyn Monroe type woman with a curvy figure, and is almost always portrayed this way in the comics too doesn’t mean that the game lacks variety. And while it is more obscure and less likely to be added in the game, powerful elderly women exist in Marvel comics too, like Madam Web for example. As a matter of fact, there’s MORE diversity for the female characters in this game than the males.
As a guy, I don’t see anyone complaining about almost EVERY male character being super jacked or handsome, more than 80% of the male cast being so much so that many guys will struggle to achieve that physique EVEN if they used both steroids and years of weight training religiously as well as bulked and slept 10 hours a day. But you know what, I don’t mind because this is gaming and it’s a hero shooter. I’m not bothered about inclusion and I wouldn’t ask for them to try to specifically look for characters who may be very old, skinny or somewhat overweight just for the sake of inclusion. It’s better that they are comic accurate or good looking if that’s how the character is supposed to be. And I have no issue with them being more diverse or going against the trend as long as it makes sense and there’s a reason for it.
If a character like the Blob gets added to the game, I EXPECT that he should look like an inhumanly large overweight moderator who eats too much and looks like he’s never worked out a day in his life because that’s what that character is. I’d actually be disappointed if he looked all handsome and obviously jacked. But if they make characters look too diverse for the sake of keeping people feeling good about themselves or inclusion specifically, instead of just making characters that people want or like to see, you get something like Concord and no one wants to look at that.
Both the guys and girls in this game are meant to look hot, why does it have to be an issue for girl characters only? There’s no elderly male badass characters but that’s not an issue.
The characters look good, there’s diversity, and that’s okay
@@Mo-.except that's not really the case though. peni is more mech than anything and is still just hot woman but slightly shorter, Scarlet witch is just hot woman with a bit more clothing, Luna snow is just hot woman with slightly flatter chest and psylocke is literally just another hot woman, you can't even judge her height very well in game but she seems average. my problem is that the "diversity" is just "hot woman with extra feature".
comparing male and female representations in this type of media is not a valid comparison, men and women have entirely different roles in the patriarchy, one that favours the men and expects women to conform to specific standards and exploits them when it does. men being scantily clad has no where near the level of exploitation because women aren't the ones who are catered for primarily in media, nor are we the ones exploiting male bodies for our own gazes. it's historically been men exploiting women's bodies because men hold the dominant power position in society over women. I don't have a problem with hot women being in video games - I'm bi, I like boobs and butts as much as anyone does - I just don't want there to be one type of hot woman or only hot women.
So your issue is too many attractive women, doesn’t apply to attractive men for some reason because of politics? Now I see where you stand
X-Men 97 also had Bastion's choice (as in THAT WAS A CHOICE) to strip Magneto down to just a speedo in captivity. People would pay good money to play Rivals as Speedo Magneto.
you really think so? it could be really funny, but idk how many people would want to spend money on a skin like that. Plus a speedo is just not as aesthetically cool as Malice.
@@ashbha4138it’s the internet, people here be thirsty af, of course people would pay for that skin lmao Malice Sue is literally gonna fund the next 3 seasons
Yeah, Rogue's Savage Land outfit is important because it's part of her connecting with Magneto in a meaningful way. That yes sorry Magneto/Rogue ship haters, was part of their romantic relationship being possibly a thing. So like you say, these outfits aren't just cheesecake, I mean they are, but it's not only that. There are interesting comic stories as part of them. That's how they get so iconic.
@12:40. Cue music 🎵 “This is my fight song”🎶
Ik it’s not as iconic, but it would’ve been fun to have her “evil version” be Ultimate Kang to match The Maker
A mother can extremely hate and love her family at same time, and only thing can defeat her is the hate from her family
I wish the costume had pants. Like, I love ass as much as the next bisexual woman, but the bottom doesn’t match the top. The fit looks unfinished.
Still bought it because it’s a spooky version of my main
Comparing X-men to love island is exactly how I get my girl friend interested in X-men thank you🙏😂
I like the comparison you make of Sue’s malice skin to Psylocke’s vengeance skin. I’m one of those people who admittedly likes the attractiveness of the skins. I bought Psylocke’s as soon as I saw it because I’m a huge psylocke fan and to me that is the iconic Psylocke appearance, on top of being really attractive. It’s the one everyone thinks about. Then I saw Sue’s skin and “oh I have to buy that” because it’s hot or whatever. But then i realized I don’t really have a connection to the costume or to the arc it represents. The original suit in the comics looks awful. So I held off on it for now.
This costume is cool but it could have been her Kang outfit to go with the maker skin
x-men evolution costumes lets go
i think the skin is fine but the original comic of it was definitely not it
Say you’re gay without saying you’re gay. 😂😂😂
I don’t get why people just don’t quick Google her and find a quick backstory about her
Because that requires people using their own brains instead of just relying on influencers to tell them how//what to think
The sleeveless Hickman suit with the ponytail is a good Suit. Also the skirt and heals of one variation in the classic costume. The square logo with her mommy short hair is a good variation, the baggy og overall and the first jumpsuit with a hooddie of the first issue, in some reprinst the suit is purple, really Challenger of The Unknown. The Red and Black before the cancelation is another interesting variant and the more tech one is the 2000s animated show with the orange logo. A good callback could be have The FF with civilians clothes like her pink three piece outfit, really Jackie Kennedy. Also The FF Full Circle by Alex Ross is so shinny
If you get mad about pixel cheeks then maybe you should not play video games. Your constant complaining is a thorn in the gaming industry
"She don't have a lot of alternative costumes" me looking respectfully at Sue Storm Madam Hydra costume, pet wolverine included, from Exiles 🥺
bro no one knows about that. hopefully that does become a MCU movie in the future though. Exiles exist since the start of MCU. hence the over doing of the multiverse.
I really don't think its that complicated. It's a free to play game, with a large male majority audience. They make money off micro-transactions, and lots of people would buy this costume.
4:26 ben is wearing less material then mallice 😂
Jeff and Groot are wearing even less!
Only women can be sexualized, duh
I didn't know you were a huge She-Hulk fan!
Can I run my She-Hulk Marvel Rivals character concept by you?
I think the strongest argument to include her is to get a woman with a different (if even slightly) silhouette in the game. Also she'd be able to have some fun 4th wall breaking quips.
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She-Hulk (Duelist)
Primary Fire: Melee combo (Duh)
Ability 1- Debris Projectile: She-Hulk grabs a couch sized piece of the ground and tosses it at the enemy for big splash damage and slight knock back. Can throw it straight or in a slight arc if the button is held. (Similar to Squirrel Girl's squirrels)
Ability 2 - Sprint (Short duration similar to Widow, but can cancel it into one of three moves)
Ability 2A - Super jump
Ability 2B - Drop Kick: Damage and knock one enemy a big distance backwards. (There's not enough "BOOPS" in this game)
Ability 2C - Ground Slide: Damage and knock multiple enemies up into the air for follow up attacks.
Ability 3 - "I Object!": Uses her gamma irradiated blood to sustain herself/shrug off injuries and regen health briefly.
Ultimate Ability - "Giant Swing" Throw: Similar to Hulk's ability that grabs one character. This would grab one character by the legs and swing them around a few times in a giant arc, hitting other enemies at the same time, then throw the grabbed enemy a great distance.
Comic accuracy babyyyy
It's not an issue don't worry about it bro
6:28 most comic book thing ever 😭
Imagine making a video about this...
Just buy the skin if u like it, she look like a demon. Sure she got the cheeks out but let's be real, it looks so good because the one from the comics looked like.... not good
hey defenders of this skin, please just say you like to goon and game at the same time, these excuses like “this is just like real woman being confident” or “tHe cOsTumEs hAvE alWaYs bEeN sKimPy” when they objectively haven’t been nearly as bad as the original malice costume since the 80-90s for a REASON are total bs and so easy to see through.
just be upfront that you want to look at a half naked female character in your game.
Comic book characters have always been hot, that's part of their appeal. If you get this worked up about a woman in a leotard or something, seek help. And possibly a break from twitter might help with the brainrot. Absolutely hilarious. No one wants to play as some fat ugly character. It's fantasy, if people want to enjoy sexy cosmetics, let them. No need to project your weird perception of sexuality onto others.
I mean it’s an option skin. You don’t have to buy it. It’s that simple. You don’t have to have a panic attack because some people like it while you don’t lol
I would buy a Malice Marvel Legends figure. Especially to put with Maker. The evil versions of the first parents of the Marvel universe would be cool
They could have went with Sue as a Kang variant 🤷🏾♂️
I have to correct you at some point. Mercy already HAS a villain-y outfit. It's not as revealing and provocative as it is from Malice, but she has an evil persona Costume after all.
It's tasteless, but the people that buy it are subsidizing the game for me, so I'm not gonna complain one bit. It at least looks a little more visually interesting than the original