I had one of those disruptive kids. Today he is successful with a Ph D in Engineering. He works in a steel mill and is highly respected. He gave a lecture on anger management in a meeting the other day. It was not easy. Academics saved him. He cared about doing well in school and he always had friends.
Those teachers dealing with levi just gave him all of the control. “if you end up walking off, you will be sent home” What sort of kid doesn’t want to be sent home when they clearly don’t want to be in school?
Kids deserve control over what they spend their time on , a kids childhood isnt just time , it’s their life . Every child is living their life and having to spend years of it on something they are bound to hate because their forced to spend their whole childhood on it .
ComedyCenter that’s probably what he needs. A lot of children who have things going on at home act out because they feel like they have no control over their lives, giving them options helps them see that they do have to be naughty to get that control back
The adults in this programme make me believe in humanity. They care for these difficult children and make the world a better place for everyone. Respect due. Thank you.
Been a teacher for over 10 years. For most aggressive and continually misbehaving students, poor parenting is at the root. Other things exacerbate the situation: 1) Not being able to firmly discipline students because teachers are then reported for misconduct 2) So much of what a teacher must do has to be just to "show Ofsted" that we're doing it right. 3) Safeguarding is important, but is now taken to such an extreme that we often feel as though we'll be reported for abuse if they fall and end up with a scratch. All in all, students know they can take advantage and get away with it. And it's scary to think these kids will grow up to become parents themselves
Been a Residential Support Worker for many years, lived with and supported some of the worst cases of neglect and abused children in the country, literally 10 o'clock news coverage. Levi looks like an angel in comparison, its an achievement just getting some children to school let alone hoping that they actually enjoy and achieve something. The 3 points you make are bang on the money.
Also a general school setting cannot possibly support all children, they identified different needs as guess what? People, especially children have a wide range of emotions, needs, abilities, sensitivities which a school setting cannot through no fault of their own, cater for.
Sammie Boyd there’s a reason that someone under the age of 18 can’t be diagnosed with ASPD or similar kinds of personality disorders. their brains aren’t fully formed and neither are the complex emotions, that someone would need to lack to be defined as a “sociopath” or “psychopath”
yes 100%. i was so bad at functioning in classes full of kids, that they gave me my own classroom all to myself, and that was honestly the only time i ever really got any work done while in school
i think what David did in his playtime was not proof of his insecurities but more of a reflection of what he is experiencing away from school. I could be wrong but it seems like signs of hidden abuse.
Poor parenting are the main cause of challenging kids. It’s the parents that needs to be questioned by the authorities. All children need a loving and caring home.
Giving kids the skills to self regulate and acknowledge their emotions is so important. I think some parents need help supporting their children & being really present in their lives.
Amen, pal, all children need parents who are supportive, positive influencers, understanding, caring, helpful, honest, and well-renowned teachers in life.
Wish they had those "nurture groups" in *secondary* schools, I mean we need support too..... All we really need is someone to talk to and someone to understand us. It takes one person to make your life a misery. And it only takes one person to help reverse that.
PantheraPardus 28 I spent most of my time in the nurture group and when I moved to high school they have something called LB1 & 2 it’s a very similar thing most schools have something like that you just have to have a recognised problem like anxiety sever bullying ptsd ect but sadly a lot of problems in teens it goes undetected
My nephew has one of sorts. But he's getting kicked out. His behaviour is just getting worse and worse. The school bent over backwards to help him. Later starting times. But he still won't go to class. He wonders off and comes and goes as he pleases I understand as I hated school. But the school has done everything to help him. He does nothing to help himself.
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Or they're struggling with a disorder? My daughter has severe combined ADHD, and eventually her frustration grew and grew until she developed ODD. As soon as doctors were able to treat her (had to wait until age 7) and she began taking medicine, her behaviours subsided. It had nothing to do with lack of love or attention, she's behind in some skills and didn't know how to cope with the emotions it stirred up. But, like in this show, some intervention while young turned everything around, and she is a happy kid again. I had to learn positive parenting because traditional methods don't work with these kids. It has nothing to do with being too soft, and everything with modelling respect, as opposed to preaching it.
@@blackswan1983 I didn't mean for it to come off as me saying that it has to be abuse causing these problems, I was just pointing out that it can be sometimes. I grew up abused myself. Nobody knew it and my parents were good at hiding it, so they put every label under the sun on me. I think that happens to a lot of children and I try to shine a light on it whenever possible. I'm sorry.
I"m curious if any of these children have been professionally assessed for such issues as ADHD, FAS/E, ODD, Learning Disabilities, etc. Behaviour can be representative of so many things and not always willfulness and poor parenting. I am glad to see that some program involve the parents. Some of those children may benefit from a combination of behavioural psychology and pharmacology. Additionally, increasing the amount of physical exercise can also benefit these challenging kids.
Compared with me I’ve got anger apnea and Down syndrome and Asperger syndrome which made me a little bit disabled and at the moment I’m not showing signs of autism I’m just the person in my own way
It’s hard to get appropriate mental health help for kids sometimes which is also compounded by poor parenting. The UK has a lot of poverty and very young inexperienced parents. It’s a symptom of a wider social issues - where you have poverty, high unemployment, crime and alcohol and drug addiction problems it is going to affect the next generation. At least they are trying to put the resources in now - even if they save a few kids in the end the payoff for the community is great.
I am a primary school teacher. In my classes I Experience that Kids are in Desperate Need of Bonding. They seem to be out of the house too Early for too long. Their Care givers Change a lot, relationships and all the security, Guidance, boundries and bond changes with them. Thats Not a Problem for a Child from a stable home or if it is very resilient. But most of them do not have stable Homes, so stability in General is just missing. Children acting up because thst Lack of stability and attention. They dont Care anymore if they her attention in a negative Way. Thats better than nothing for them. I also Experience thst Kids tend to be very egoistic this Days. I Think that is because their needs are not Met by caregivers, parents and teachers. They try to Care for themselves. We also forget that especially Children from unstable Homes miss out in Proper feeding ans Stimulation from an Early Age. This affects their Development not only in a cognitive Way but in a Social and emotional as well. Its very hard to compensate all this as a teacher. And its very hard for a Kid with so much on his Plate to actually learn.
Growing up as a kid with thyroid problems I would have loved something like the nurture room when I was a kid. I often was very tired and felt very overwhelmed most days by the typical class room inviroment I still have this in high school and I'm finding it hard most days.
I wish this could help in schools in the US. I was diagnosed with autism as well with speech issue. It would be nice if I could go to a room that helped in extra study as well a home environment. Because at nine my grandma died and I sometimes had study issues from fourth to sixth grade. So this would have helped.
immy I know this is super old but I have sever anxiety and because of that I had to switch completely to online school because I couldn’t handle the class room. Most days all I needed was a 10 minute breather in my own space. Instead the corrupt us school called cps on my family because I eventually quit going all together. They wouldn’t put me in the online program until I had gone through extensive mental health evaluations and a form from my doctor. It was insane
This touched a nerve. I wish past teachers and child specialists worked together back in the 80s. It's not that these kids wish to be naughty but they are dealing with adult issues in the home and they are calling for help as they are not old enough to process what's being dished out. My heart goes out to these little lost kids. I hope life gets better for them. I'm so sorry to my past teachers, I didn't know how to ask for the help needed as I didn't understand my situation.
While it's nice to see behaviorally challenged children getting such focused help, what is being done to discourage the behavior that results in these damaged children in the first place? And are these children being professionally evaluated and diagnosed? Student Jason"s mother admitted to abusing alcohol - does he suffer from FAS? When ill-equipped individuals become parents, it's the children who actually suffer. THAT'S the root of the problem.
Yes in the documentary they talk about how they provide support to the parents to deal with issues and learn better parenting skills. I assume before starting the group a child would be assessed for any disorders and implement stratagies to deal with that.
Levi needs more intensive psychological help it seems. It’s hard if the issues stem from poor home environment. At least the other children aren’t being made to suffer.
See I agree .. but at the same time what else is to be done? They children are getting what they want .. being in the center of attention... If they do have a diagnosis what else is there to do ? Meds don't always work ..this child Levi already have a team & this is what the team does they can't make him do anything just make sure he isn't harming himself or an other child. Sending them home is what the child wants ... They get out of the responsibility of school work .. each child has the teaching staff & parents wrapped around their finger ... So what is the answer .. even when they are diagnosed 🤷
What an astounding story! I wish there were more schools like this one. It's unfortunate that many kids with learning/behavioral deficits aren't getting this type of help. The younger they are when you break them of their inappropriate behavior, the better. It will also enable them to learn more efficiently. A lot of children in this population sadly seem to be held back in overall achievements by the general system.
The auto-subtitle function [CC] works perfectly when' they are in Luton and it tries it's hardest when the action moves to Scotland but eventually gives up and just starts inserting random words.
Personally I think they need more of these “helping behaviour teachers” in secondary schools. Older children need someone to talk to sometimes. Also some secondary schools (like mine) don’t even have a ‘quiet room’ or something like that to think and be alone. X
The way they dealt with the first kid was so backwards in my opinion. They basically gave him complete control, chasing him around and asking him to go to class instead of telling him to go or be punished. Kids these days control their parents and have no consequences for their bad behavior. It's ridiculous!
Yes it was terrible how they dealt so calmly and compassionately with a boy who was clearly angry and hurting, and that is evident in the fact he made incredible progress in literacy and math and was attending classes happily by the end of the year! Imagine the horrors if we invested a little upfront so that all children had the space to safely express their feelings. . . . did you even watch to the end?
Stephanie D... They should express their feelings at home with their parents and tell them all about it. The *parents* are the ones that should be dealing with this kid, and his doctors and psychiatrists. A school isn't supposed to be a psychiatrist's couch for the mentally unbalanced, and teachers shouldn't be required to deal with violent kids that they aren't qualified to deal with, and risk harm. These types of kids should be in a special school with adults equipped to handle their episodes. The majority shouldn't have to give up an environment conducive to learning for the sake of kids that can't, or won't, behave and/or are prone to meltdowns and extreme anger. That's not fair to the majority.
Its just about children respecting their boundaries. It's down to parents who enforce the bounds that cannot and should not be broken. I've grown up respecting my parents and being respectful of not crossing the boundaries they've set. It's not down to the schools to enforce this practice and find out what's wrong. If the parents did their jobs then we would not be in this situation.
Okay, but what about the children of neglectful parents who DON’T do that? So many close minded comments on here seem to think these children have no value.
@@Kirsten_is_cursed10 People who disrespect others do not have value, those kids are left overs of natural selection, leave them in peace, they will destroy themselves to the common good. Society waits until those turn 18, then imprison them away.
People like this affected my school life immensely. All the ones who misbehaved used to get free trips if they had a week of good behaviour. For the same trip my parents would have to fork out 100's of pounds. After a period I decided I may as well misbehave as well. Simply because they were the kids that got all the attention and free trips. Unless the kids have real disorders, they should be excluded until secondary school starts.
Levi is a kid- he doesn't understand 'choices' that they talk about because he doesn't care. You need to make the choices for him- he HAS to go to class. He HAS to participate in lessons
Some kids just aren’t compatible with public school. It doesn’t mean that they’re bad kids, just that they need a different structure of education. I was one of the “disruptive” children in primary school and I remember crying after school some days because I didn’t understand why I couldn’t keep myself from yelling out and saying whatever was on my mind when the teacher was giving lessons. Eventually I was diagnosed with ADHD and the teachers became more understanding and less punitive, but I spent 3 or 4 years being a disruption to the other kids and not being able to learn anything myself because my disability wasn’t yet diagnosed or properly understood.
Yesterday I watched a Real Stories documentary about children in Gambia. These children were desperate to attend school, but their parents had to pay for the privilege. They had hardly any food or comfort, yet they were well mannered, hard working. My point is to stop indulging the 'Levi's' of this world, send him home! Better still, send him to Gambia.
Abdirahim Mussa Yes!! Basic education starts before you even leave the womb! Teachers don’t get their hands on kids until they’re 4-5 years old. They’ve already had years of ‘teaching’ & some are already experts at manipulating for attention & expressing frustration & pain as pure rage! Other kids shouldn’t have to tolerate their violent & rude behaviour. When I returned to England I was given details of local schools to choose which to apply to. All schools bragged about their specialists & targeted education for special needs (emotionally, behaviourally & educationally) Children. ONLY one of the schools even mentioned high IQ ‘high-flyer’ children’s special needs!
Exactly! Here in Africa being in school is like being in heaven. It's a privilege you can't imagine! When kids get it they read even with the moonlight because most people can't afford any form of lighting.
Why does livvi not like going to the classroom? The teaches need to stop using that bland room as a punishment and need to find the root of the problem.
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And why do you think Levi might want attention, Lady Godiva? Baring in mind this is a child we're talking about here. A child's welfare. Why do you think he might be in need of attention?
Nothing wrong with thriving on attention, or needing it, or seeking it. All children thrive on appropriate attention, and need it, and it's understandable that they should be able to seek it if they don't get enough of it. But there's inappropriate SEEKING of it, and that's what has to be sorted.
@@richardallport1577 I'm presuming what you're saying is that you don't agree with what I said, Richard. In answer to your question I'd suggest the boy gets some proper time every day to see a child therapist, and the carers manhandling him about the place and penning him in give him some space, develop a rapport with him, and not expect results overnight. This dragging him about nonsense further frightens an already frightened child, and also further disempowers a boy who clearly feels belittled at home. Casual, friendly interaction from a carer would help immeasurably. He's not a pet to be tamed, he won't immediately succumb to a magic click of a finger. He's got family troubles, his brain's decided - as brains do - what the best way to survive is, and it's going to take some patience and time to change that. It's no longer fashionable to have patience and give people time, I know. But it's how neuroplasticity works. If you want behavioural change, you have to provide consistent stimulus that contradicts existing thought patterns. It's not 'on demand', it's not 'brand approved', and it's not 'right wing populist tabloid'. It's just how brains work.
Meg L Punishing him probably would have made him angrier and caused him to lash out more - it was a safer bet to allow him his break and give him time to cool off.
I had a student in my class who would act up in class every lesson. He was rude and physically and verbally aggressive. We advised his parents to get him assessed for ADHD. He was diagnosed and put on Ritalin. I still teach him and he is now honestly a pleasure to teach.
When I was Levi's age, I did the exact same things at school. I sort of had an excuse because I'm Autistic, but in many other ways I do control myself. I use to get restrained everyday in primary school, then I found out that mainstream wasn't for me so they put me in a special needs school. I did much better there, then I went to a special needs secondary school and didn't do so well there. I'm doing very well.
I'm 52 now but when I was growing up raising children was a family thing aunts uncles nans and grandads all had a role in a child's life. Now a day's people don't socialise family's don't have as many get togethers. This impacts on children's lives.
I wonder when we'll stop looking at the children and start looking at the school system that does not cater for neurodivergent people as the problem? ADD/ADHD, ODD, FAS/E, OCD and Bipolar Disorder go undiagnosed and are not catered for by an education system which hasn't changed much in 200 years. No wonder we're losing these kids, and losing great teachers who quite because they cannot cope with limited resources and support. New thinking required.
At 9:44, that little girl just standing there, letting the rain hit her face...oh to be young again!! That baby girl doesn't have a care in the world at that moment.
When I was young, if kids behaved like Levi, they were generally sent to "Special school" because it was assumed that there was something wrong with their intellect and it was seen as being too disruptive for the other regular students.
And that was probably the best thing because special schools have the teachers with the adequate knowledge and understanding of disorders like Pathological Demand Avoidance that most of these children have.
Bad things can happen when assumptions are made. My husband was very disruptive in school, and as a result was sent to a "special class". Turns out, he was extremely gifted, and was very, very bored. They got it wrong because of their assumption. He still has a lot of resentment today because of how he was handled as a child.
I worked as a teacher for a large part of my professional life. A big issue is that men don't want to be teachers and that the male role model and influence has vanished. As a man, I gave up teaching because the risk that a mere allegation posed to my career and life was too much of a risk so I chose to teach adults instead. I bet you all noticed a complete lack of males in the school system. I would also wager that many of those children come from single mother households.
I noticed the few male teachers and I noticed the male students listened more to the males. Male teachers gravitate to senior school and I can understand why.
i'm shocked by this behaviour, What has happened? Children have been given too much power, but then in the same sentence my stepson was put into a whole day of reflection (out of his classes) for being 2 mins late! He's a top achieving student....except in math, he, and I asked if he could attend the extra classes already in place, but he was told no, because he wasn't in the top set. I asked why could he not attend, to be told it would upset the Ofsted results should he fail. I can't even begin to understand that, Why hold a child back when he's asking for help? Because of Ofsted....it's just wrong.
I feel awful for Levi. Haven't the school ever considered 1-1 learning so he doesn't have to go into a classroom that is clearly causing him stress and anxiety? I hated watching that kid being restrained and treated like a criminal without the teachers considering other learning options for him. But no schools don't think like that do they because they want to shove kids into a busy, noisy classroom day in day out and teach them all a group mindset and force them to work "in a team" denying any individual learning opportunities for any of them. I'm sick of this "you must be like everyone else otherwise your not trying" mindset that most schools seem to have. School isn't a nice place for kids like him, for those reasons. No one considering other possibilities just "you need to make a choice" over and over, which usually only makes it easy for the teachers not the child 🙄
Awwww do you???? What if it were your child in the same class having a chair thrown at them, injured , cant learn due to the same kids who we are all spending all day saying awww awwww !! Something is wrong and the kids behaving get the least attention.
@@rippinitupwithjamie1478 Most children that have problems at school are like that due to problems going on at home. I do not think it is right for teachers to punish a child without looking for an underlying cause first. For example when a child is living in a difficult home and the teachers exclude them they are being sent to the place where the abuse is for days at a time the teachers only reason is that childs behavior being "disruptive" or "out of control" , the teachers fail to wonder why the child is behaving that way and they don't even question that the child could could be struggling , they are just given negative labels and told to stay home, that same home that could be abusive. Some children act up as a cry for help, ever heard of an "Attachment Disorder" ? Attachment Disorders are caused by neglect of a childs emotional or physical needs in their early childhood (0-5 years) sometimes Attachment Disorders show through a childs behavior which can include a lot of anger and aggression. Depression and anxiety can also show through a childs behavior, they may seem "disruptive" to a teacher but in reality the child is needing help and doesn't know how to express what is happening to them or that they need support. Usually these are behaviors that teachers punish. I am not saying that other children in the class should be forced to put up with it, what I am saying is that it isn't right for teachers to punish children and claim they are "badly behaved" when they have not looked at the underlying problems which in a lot of cases is caused by a bad home life and children struggling mentally and don't know how to explain what's happening or that they need help so they show it through their behavior instead. Most of the time they don't need punishment they need support.
I don't really know what you want the individual teachers to do. You seem to want them to have infinite time and resources in their hands and they don't. It's like yelling at a McDonald's employee for the long waiting times for food when that low-level employee is doing everything they can under bad management. Be mad at the people who actually run the schools like this.
@gemmawilson9227 I have a similar role in a secondary school. We’d love to support every need of a child. Whether that’s 1-1 support, alternative timetables, but the fact is the funding just isn’t there that’s needed for facilities, resources and staffing. Special schools are closing, the special schools left are full so these kids are pushed into mainstream schools and with limited resources we adapt as much as we can to the needs of the kids. We as a school say we can’t meet a child’s needs but if a child has an EHCP and names a school we have to give them a place. Local authorities recommend mainstream schools Eventhough its not suitable because there is no other facilities elsewhere. It’s sad, at times unsafe and extremely frustrating for parents, students and the teachers that work with them, but we try our very best! And for the restraint, when a child is hanging off a light, throwing scissors at staff, climbing 8 ft fences they are over stimulated. So taking them to a room with minimal stimuli is going to be best to calm them down. If they aren’t being aggressive and dangerous an adult will join them in that room. We also do aftercare after this time, whether that’s a sleep, eat/drink, music, colouring and also talking about what happened and how they felt. It’s not nice but it’s better than the harm that can be done! There maybe schools where a child’s needs and background are ignored but in this case, these kids will have key workers who have regular contact with parents and caters. Fully aware of how difficult their situations are, so when consequences are out in place for negative behaviours those circumstances are entirely considered!
@joeybakes7506 I understand, the government play a big part in children's education and it seems when it comes to funding special needs education, they are terrible. I am all for a quiet room where a child goes to take their anger out or calm down, it is the restraining him like a criminal and trying to drag him into the school/classroom that I didn't like. But a quiet room is a much better option and aftercare is a great idea. A special school near me nearly shut until parents had a meeting with the council and demanded it stayed open as they would refuse to send their kids to a mainstream school as it wasn't right for their children, it is sad that they had to fight to keep that school open, but the council have questioned shutting it again after this academic year and I hate to think what will happen to the children there. It isn't just for kids with special needs it is for children who suffer from anxiety and depression and mainstream school isn't the right place for them. Until children's mental health is taken as a priority in our education system by the government, I don't think we will see many changes when it comes to supporting special needs children or those who struggle with trauma or mental health difficulties. The education system in this country needs to change.
Why empower Levi like that? If he gets away with it at school he will think he can get away with it anywhere and then BOOM, one day he meets someone who doesn't give a shit about his 'entitlement' and they knock him out - or worse. It is not fair on the other kids.
Okay, think about it like this. All throughout my elementary school life I had problems just like these kids. I was disruptive, rude, and violent. I didn't know why. I couldn't stay in a class room for longer than fifteen minutes. America has programs kind-of like these that really helped me when I was younger. Now being in Highschool I only need to be in small group for math. I can be in a classroom setting with the rest of the kids and do my work and listen to the teachers without disrupting other children. This should be funded. This gives the children a chance for a proper education and a better future.
How exactly did they "empower" him? What did he "get away with?" and how is he "entitled"? Were we watching the same video? lol I honestly can't understand what your point is at all.
The nurture group is a lot like the additional resource centre my son goes to, the resource centre is their for children with Complex social and emotional needs. They also seek to the root cause of the problem. ( My son joined the resource centre after he was regularly disrupting class and having to be sent home almost every day) Thanks to the resource centre he goes to. We found out that he had: • Autism • ADHD • Tourette syndrome And a form of dyspraxia
BratBusters Parenting Simply put, it's cheaper than foster care. It's clear that the majority of these kids are most likely having problems at home. The thing is (again, for the majority of kids), the problem isn't behavioral. It's a symptom of psychological aggravation that don't yet have the vocabulary to express. Instead of "behavior targets," I wish these people would sit down with a kid and just fucking ask him or her what's going on, what are they thinking, feeling, etc. But no, we do the usual bighead bullshit - talk AT them and show them consequences. The latter gets the job done, albeit also teaches kids to internalize their feelings. This leaves them at high risk for self-destructive behavior as they grow older. It doesn't address the real problem. Moreover it would help with a statistic that rarely gets mentioned: in the US, approximately only 10% of abuse cases get reported. Many times a kid will present symptoms, there's a meeting (with the parent who is either abusing or tacitly allowing), and the parent's response is taken at face value. Those 10%, I reckon, are those cases where the child either has the courage to approach the teacher, or the abuse is so egregious that it cannot be ignored (as in, fear of potential lawsuit). To be frank, I don't think many teachers, like many parents, are truly qualified for the job. **Actually, I regret the use of the word "courage" up top. "Desperation," maybe, I don't know.
Hello. My son is also suffering from behavioral difficulties and a doctor said he seems to be suffering from conduct disorder. it's a mental disorder. NOT always bad parenting. Just a thought.
I spent years mentoring troubled kids in schools so am well aware of government funded school initiatives to train parents. That was unheard of just a couple of generations ago when parents were responsible for their children's behaviour. If kids were really naughty they went sent home for their parents to deal with. Could you imagine if that was done these days, schools would be empty!!! Kids who don't respect others don't respect themselves. It's horribly sad as what chance do they have in life? I'd like to see money put into training parents on how to give and get respect before kids even start school. Would save millions in the long run.
The thing is when i was growing up in the 70's and eighties as a kids. we just couldn't behave like this. We were put in our place firmly. We had boundaries we couldn't cross and for the most part we didn't.
Suey indeed . Although l hated it at the time, my parents strictness made me a better person. A nail that sticks up will be hammered down, as my father used to say.
I think in some cases yes, but in some cases it is clearly just misbehaviour. Today society panders to children too much. Kids need boundaries and they need to be told no. They need to be told you sit down do as you are told. There are kids that have ADD and kids that have ADHD. i am not denying that. But, i think these issues are overdiagnosed. Kids that are just plain misbehaving, not doing what they are told and disrupting everyone else. And, it has nothing to do with learning or social difficulties. When i was at school i did have learning issues. Behaviour issues as a result. But, i was still firmly put in my place. And, rightly so!
Happy to see the parents were on board and was ready to work with the school so it could be come together and work for the children. All schools, nursery in this day and age should have nurture rooms.
Some children are not just naughty... Some may have • Autism • ADHD • Learning problems • problems at home ( such as Alcohol abuse, drug abuse, violence etc • anger Issues • Dyslexia • developmental level Don’t look just at the behaviour look for the cause of it ❤️
Chase Ambrose, Yes my son is on the autism spectrum ( professionally diagnosed) I go to a meet and greet with other moms with children who have ASD, one mom ( I won’t say their child’s name) has a son who is always naughty when he didn’t get the cake he wanted he screamed and kicked his mom. She explained to the lady who was on the cake stand “ Oh he’s Autistic he does that sometimes” All children have tantrums scream, cry and even throw chairs. I feel that when a parent hears that their child has ( Autism, ADHD etc) they start excusing every bad or rude behaviour to be to do of their child’s condition. I understand it can be hard to distinguish a common temper tantrum to a sensory related outburst but still 👍🏻
Chase Ambrose, I have also not told my son he is on the spectrum. He was diagnosed with Autism at age 4 ( he is 6 now) at the time I knew he was too young. When my son was 5 I tried to explain but he just got confused. My son was Diagnosed on the moderate to severe end of the Autism Spectrum. He goes to a specialist school and struggles to communicate. I feel now he doesn’t have the level of understanding to know what it means to be Autistic. If in the future I feel he could understand and comprehend it I would tell him. But at the moment I’m not going to tell him and neither is his school 🏫👍🏻
There’s more disruptive children because they get told to behave like an adults and get spoken to like babies . It’s like when they behave like kids their not allowed to but when they try to take control of what they want to do they have to do what adults tell them . Kids get angry because they’ve been suppressing their energy for hours on end and can’t channel it like adults can . At the end of the day , kids are kids , and a row of desks and having to focus in silence for hours doesn’t let them have childhoods . Adults ask young teens why they want jobs and to leave school and be independent, it’s because ever since they were 7 years old they’ve been told to behave like adults and are sick of being seen as less than their teachers . It’s not the kids fault that the school systems outdated and corrupt . And another thing , homework is just a way to stress kids out at home as well as school it literally wastes their only time to unwind on more pointless stress .
Aron Luminous yup a ruler to the hands once was good enough for me to ever act out in my classes at school. Nuns do not play they had zero problems with smacking your hands or butt in front of the entire class.
I can count on one hand throughout my entire school attendance that any child disruption/violence happened, so it makes me wonder what is happening these days that is different? I recently listened to a radio show about teachers in one school wearing bullet proof vests in America. Other than mental illness, how you behave and what is appropriate starts at home with parents. I think rather than exposing other children and teachers to such stress, shall we go back to institutions for the difficult/troubled children? integration is not always fair to everyone.
The trouble is that many struggling children are not disruptive, and the quietly suffering ones can be neglected. I do think that Nurture Groups sound positive, though.
Something is causing the problem & not always the parents fault ! This didn't occur years ago ! But discipline was enforced as a deterrent not necessarily carried out ! Think the respect for adults is not being taught in home & school environment !?!? Children need boundaries & not to be pandered to ! Some kids think they can control adults & they do !!!
This did occur years ago. We had a few children in my school that were disruptive. (This was in the 70's) It's always been around. People just tend to turn a blind eye to it to fit an agenda.
Jordan's mom keeps breaking into a smile, while describing Jordan's disruptive behavior. It makes me wonder if she is one of those parents who tend to label their child's "bad behavior" as " high-spirited " and amused by it. Hopefully, her smiling was because she was nervous in front of the camera.
Why doesn’t Levi want to take classes? If I were his teacher I wouldn’t send him to quiet room if he is refusing to go to class because I think it just teaches him to behave in a way that helps him to avoid class. I would give him another consequence for disruptive and aggressive behaviour, and positive reinforcements for taking part in lessons and activities.
This is truly heartbreaking beyond belief....I’m a student going into my degree year studying youth work and seeing this just goes to show that there is not enough funding put into place for young people. I don’t agree with lifting and dragging them to there “classroom” or “quiet room” because doing that only makes that vulnerable(Levi) more frustrated and uncomfortable. I really hope that all the young people on this...have and get the correct support they need💓
I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned at all that these kids are typically 30% behind in executive functioning, compared to their peers. That includes identifying and dealing with emotions. They see their peers doing well at things they can't grasp, and frustration builds. Programs like these truly help them until they catch up.
How my Mum managed to teach Primary age for 40yrs astounds me.......I'd kill this lot if they were in my class! Dear god, u must know your child is this bad before you send them to school!!! Are you parenting them????
My mother taught all ages for many years. In 1968 she taught the Joy group, so called, at Preston High school for girls because they were all troubled kids who were dumped into the one class and my mother taught them for every lesson except PE. Now my Mum is awful at Math, she uses her fingers and toes to count with. The math teacher would talk my mum through the lesson and my mother would run into the classroom write it on the blackboard, telling the girls everything she could remember. Then she'd say 'That's it, I can't remember anything else! ' The girls would work it out and the ones who understood taught the class and attempted to teach my mum! It was a wonderful life lesson for them. They didn't have to know everything to be able to succeed in life. In the final exams at the end of the year, the Joy groups math results were on our with the A class's results, much to my mother's amusement. I do remember quite a few of those girls buying my mother a gift with their first paycheck. She was their last teacher, it was their final year of school, year 10.
What the heck else are they gunna do with their child even if they do recognise their behaviour is bad?? School is statutory in the UK, what are they gunna go keep them off school just because their behaviour is bad and rack up thousands of pounds worth of fines?! Not even considering most of the parents will need to work!
I was at times one of these problem children. I have autism, Adhd and I process information much slower than others my age making things like make a long boring process for my brain. I know how these kids think and I can honestly say, Telling the child not to walk out of the room is the OPPOSITE what what they should be doing! He has found a method that calms him, Removing ones self from the situation is a very big step! It shows that he can take a breath and let it go rather than feeling like he has to stay and have the last word. To this day I still often can’t let go of an argument, I always want to be right and if i’m not the last one to say something, I feel angry! Before the child can handle staying in the classroom he needs to be provided with better ways to calm himself. For example some children feel that coloring is very calming. Have a space in a corner of the classroom. When the child is overwhelmed he may ask that he is allowed to color in order to calm himself. To prevent arguments about having to leave the drawing table, The child will be provided one just 1 coloring page to complete (A time limit may be require for children who tend to spend more than 30 minutes at a time to start with). Once the child completes the coloring page he should eventually be able to get up on his own and return to his desk. If the child does not want to leave and wants to continue coloring after the time limit or after the child has completed the page, a good strategy is to make deals with the child that involved rewards example: “Tell you what, Let’s try to spend 15 minutes doing the lesson, and if you make through the entire 15 minutes, you can complete another coloring page! Does that sound okay?” This is something that would’ve been very effective for myself when i was younger. It still would to this day. You can’t expect 5 minutes to enough for a child, When your enjoying something it feels like hardly a split second.
A lot of these issues in schools are not just because they want to misbehave. It’s because they might not get enough attention at home, therefore they act up in school. Or they are depressed due to an incident at home, therefore they might not be participating in lessons. Stop the home issues then the behaviour at school can stop as well.
Sit next to the kid and ask them what’s going on. And then, LISTEN. that’s what they need. Even if they are being disruptive they are screaming for help. They need help. Not to be screamed at.
In Germany they have different schools for children with violent behavoural problems / ADHD and for children who have S.E.N ie very slow learners and mild mental health handicaps, other schools for children who have more severe mental health handicaps. Staff ratios and support are brilliant and the buildings are also brilliant. Why should children with normal behaviour have their school days disrupted. It's a dam sight better system than we have in the UK. Wonder what their home lives are like? Looks like some of them need psychological help
I have been to the special school in Jever in Germany where my brothers foster son goes. No spoilt brats. There are children with learning difficulties whose Mothers were on alcohol and drugs whilst pregnant. There are children who have brain damage and can't cope in an ordinary school setting. There are children from violent backgrounds who have severe emotional problems.none of them could cope in a ordinary school setting.
Because segregation is illegal and morally wrong. Beyond that, studies show that mainstreaming is good for both disabled students AND "normal" students.
My mum does intervention in her job at primary school along with nurture groups and behaviour groups and I see it really interesting as she works with a child physiology!
This seems like the same problem that happens at my secondary school. The reason behind the kids behaviour is usually a result of problems at home. One of the girls that acts up was abused when she was younger and her dad is now under a restraining order. And another one of the girls hasn’t seen her dad in 4 years because he has been in jail and her mum is a recovering drug addict. It isn’t always the kids fault. Kids learn from their parents actions and if their parents actions are showing that it is ok to shout and swear and throw things then how are the kids meant to learn common rules and responsibilities. ( I live just outside of Glasgow )
because children need to learn they have a choice in how they behave and realise the connection between those choices and the consequences that result.
@@rosiejl2798 Yeah, because that's *_clearly_* working a charm for the poor bedraggled teachers in this vid. //rolls eyes so hard they stay that way... aaaand now I'm blind//
3 minutes into the video and I question why the teachers have to deal with this. Seriously why? Send them make to mom and dad. Why do the other kids have to suffer this kid of behavior?
Corinne C it’s not the kids fault at all . It’s the system that makes them suppress all their energy to sit and focus for hours and not all kids can cope with that but the systems not designed for individuality and is more designed for a statistic .
As a society we've chosen a group of people to responsible for all the children while the other adults do their jobs. Most of education is just monitoring children , keeping them occupied while the rest can get work done.
This approach to children's disruptive behavior was designed to allow the child to help children control their emotions and make good choices for themselves. The hope is to have children become able to recognize and regulate their behavior as teenagers and adults on their own without the need for someone else to try and control them. Sometimes this approach works and sometimes it doesn't. If it fails then the child will be at higher risk of anti-social behavior later (committing crimes, illegal drug use, etc.). These teachers are attempting to do what the parent should already have done in the home.
What most parents fail to realize is a public education was never to be a child's primary source of education. It was meant to be an extension and support of a parents teaching. If only we could go back to the days when you should have already taught your child the basics. I remember having to be tested before admitting me into school. All my children as well. When parents do their job a child finds school enjoyable. They know whats expected and have no anxiety or fear. I raised nine of my own children and several fosters. They all entered school with the ability to read, write, numbers, name, primary colors. All the basics one should expect a kindergartener to know upon entering. The kinder teacher of the youngest child said to me in 1999 I am so sorry but your child is going to have a rough time in my class. I am looking for a class better fit for him throughout the district but have yet to find one. If he remains here he will begin to hate school having long term problems. What the hell? Yes those words popped out of my mouth. She said we've completed testing and not a single child in this school but your child is prepared to begin school. It had been over ten years since I enrolled a child in school. I was disgusted. Why should teachers and students who have proper parents suffer due to the laziness of neglectful parents. Do bother giving me the BS have to work crap because I am simply going to ask you one question. Why the hell would you have a child if you did not have the time and resources for said child? Don't come at me with the special needs of the child either because some of my foster kids had far more severe mental and physical scars than most others yet they all entered school prepared. ADD to ADHD to Autism all the way to Downs yet each and every one of them entered school prepared. Children who are disruptive or are born into the unfortunate situation of having neglectful parents should be removed from school so they do not hender the education of the masses.
Hi I agree with you. My dad's a lecturer and my mum a social worker. Even though they were both out working one of them read me a book each night. When I went to school I could tell the time, read and write basic sentences and stories and speak basic bits of French. I love my parents for all they did, (sometimes my dad would take me to a museum instead of school he said 'a schooling is not an education' lol) I was recently diagnosed with bipolar but feel I suffered episodes from being about 8. Every child is different and there are kids who will internalise or vocalise their emotions and I think this type of support is needed. But I agree with your comment. I hope when I have children I will be like my parents x
Francesca Foster my daughter is 10 and I still read TO her daily. She enjoys it and I enjoy it while she’ll still let me. Plus she can enjoy books she can’t quite read herself yet. She can just curl up and listen. We ended up taking her out of school last year when she was 9 because a 14 year old was beating her up all the time. This behavior was so common and she hated going. We didn’t put her back and chose to homeschool. Those kinds of kids make normal kids quite anxious
My children were both the same, I got reprimanded for teaching my eldest both the phonetic and the normal alphabet before she started school. She could read, write and do simple maths, and I worked. There is no excuse for bad parenting. My youngest is Autistic and this came with a whole new set of challenges, but again she entered school being able to write and simple maths, reading was difficult as we later found out she is dyslexic. I home educated her from 13 years old because the school system was not working for her, she attended college and did a music course and now holds down a job while she decides which direction to take her life. I firmly believe that if I had left her in school she would have been damaged for life. Both have grown to well-adjusted adults, although my youngest still struggles with social skills and anxiety to change. I spent hours researching Autism and finding ways to support my child and am now supporting my eldest daughter who has a son who is Autistic. I still don't agree with some of the working practices in school, such as isolation, as this can have a traumatic effect on children. Adverse childhood experiences (ACEs) can affect children for life, and more needs to be done to support, tackle and educate about this.
But then what happens to the kids of neglectful parents? Do they just not get an education and therefore are doomed to failure simpym for having crappy parents?
Some kids have never had anyone be nice to them so they don't know how to be nice to other people. You can't go on to be a normal human if you've never been nurtured and made to feel safe!
I'm sorry but how is it such a challenge to stay in class and have basic manners. The parents needed to teach manners, basic respect, teach the bloody kid how to speak properly and how to not get angry and calm down when they are angry. These parents failed these kids and they're only in primary school. It makes me so sad
Hopefully this is a start for the future where every school has a nurture room. It should be compulsory and funded by the Government. With 14,000,000 families living in poverty life is tough for these young pupils. We should stop being judgmental and just support families and allow these children to be able develop their potential. In doing so it allows the teachers not to be distracted and support the others in the classroom. A win win situation for everybody.
So he is rewarded with tons of attention and no academic class for acting like an asshole--YAY!! The height of irresponsibility, making it worse. It's not like data on behaviorism isn't available. This is vile.
When i was 5 years old my father took me from my mother with her conscent, to live with him and his new wife. It quickly bacame apparent to me that she took an instant dislike to me, more like hatered. She had four children of her own. Anyway the abuse started off almost immediately making me stand in the corner of the room facing the wall for absolutely no reason that a five year old child would understand anyway. The days went on with low level mental abuse, well to a five year old boy it was devastating. My father was a long distant driver so all this abuse took place when he was out, but he could see that I was unhappy there. So her four children started to bully me and attacked me in the house. They had a dog that use to nip me, and they would all just laugh. I started to hear her mother say to her, "Why don't you just dump him somewhere." So after a year of mental tourment at the hands of everyone in that house, she finally decided to take her mothers advice and dump me on the street I was only 6 years. So Social services placed me with a foster family but after a year the moved me to a children's home. That was a blow to me because I became part of a loving family. When I was 8 years old they moved me to another children's gome where I stayed for 8 years. I left the children's home when I was 16, then they moved me to another children's home for a year, then when I was 17 they moved me to an half way house to get me use to an independant life. I left the care system as I went in feeling alone, worried, & affraid. Of course i have not put every awful experience in this post. Thank You.................................
I had one of those disruptive kids. Today he is successful with a Ph D in Engineering. He works in a steel mill and is highly respected. He gave a lecture on anger management in a meeting the other day. It was not easy. Academics saved him. He cared about doing well in school and he always had friends.
“A quiet bare walled room with no furniture for the children to throw or climb on “ *child angrily climbing door frame*
lol
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed. I'm sitting here like umm.....😂😂😂😂
Hahahaha 😂😂😂
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Complete insanity when it could be so easy!
Those teachers dealing with levi just gave him all of the control.
“if you end up walking off, you will be sent home” What sort of kid doesn’t want to be sent home when they clearly don’t want to be in school?
Depends. If they're being abused at home they DO NOT wanna go home. I'm not saying that is happening in this case but just IF it is.
Kids deserve control over what they spend their time on , a kids childhood isnt just time , it’s their life . Every child is living their life and having to spend years of it on something they are bound to hate because their forced to spend their whole childhood on it .
Hannah Diane come on he has a like a decade of childhood
ComedyCenter that’s probably what he needs. A lot of children who have things going on at home act out because they feel like they have no control over their lives, giving them options helps them see that they do have to be naughty to get that control back
Depends. I knew someone who would rather come to school with a raging fever than be home with their awful mother.
The problem is; is that if it is home troubles, they’re going straight back into that environment at the end of the day.
The adults in this programme make me believe in humanity. They care for these difficult children and make the world a better place for everyone. Respect due. Thank you.
They try to repair what parents break. This is sad overall.
@@svetavinogradova4243 Define "break".
Been a teacher for over 10 years. For most aggressive and continually misbehaving students, poor parenting is at the root. Other things exacerbate the situation:
1) Not being able to firmly discipline students because teachers are then reported for misconduct
2) So much of what a teacher must do has to be just to "show Ofsted" that we're doing it right.
3) Safeguarding is important, but is now taken to such an extreme that we often feel as though we'll be reported for abuse if they fall and end up with a scratch.
All in all, students know they can take advantage and get away with it. And it's scary to think these kids will grow up to become parents themselves
Been a Residential Support Worker for many years, lived with and supported some of the worst cases of neglect and abused children in the country, literally 10 o'clock news coverage. Levi looks like an angel in comparison, its an achievement just getting some children to school let alone hoping that they actually enjoy and achieve something. The 3 points you make are bang on the money.
Please learn neurology. Please for the sake of the families. ASD is real and shows on brain scans, so is psychopathy and other neural disorders.
Also a general school setting cannot possibly support all children, they identified different needs as guess what? People, especially children have a wide range of emotions, needs, abilities, sensitivities which a school setting cannot through no fault of their own, cater for.
Sammie Boyd there’s a reason that someone under the age of 18 can’t be diagnosed with ASPD or similar kinds of personality disorders. their brains aren’t fully formed and neither are the complex emotions, that someone would need to lack to be defined as a “sociopath” or “psychopath”
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Did you even watch all of this?
So they've noticed that when put in smaller classes kids perform better..
yes 100%. i was so bad at functioning in classes full of kids, that they gave me my own classroom all to myself, and that was honestly the only time i ever really got any work done while in school
And, that kid levi is getting attention alright. That's all he wants. Attention. He obviously doesn't get it at home so disrupts school to get it.
Suey no its not about that its classed as mental health iv been in his shoes when i was a kid
Yeah he doesn't get a good walloping at home to break him out of stupid
Cyberdyne Systems I think he gets enough of that, it would explain his aggression.
We were sent home .
And every other kid suffers because of it. They have NO business in school with normal kids.
i think what David did in his playtime was not proof of his insecurities but more of a reflection of what he is experiencing away from school. I could be wrong but it seems like signs of hidden abuse.
Poor parenting are the main cause of challenging kids. It’s the parents that needs to be questioned by the authorities. All children need a loving and caring home.
Giving kids the skills to self regulate and acknowledge their emotions is so important. I think some parents need help supporting their children & being really present in their lives.
Amen, pal, all children need parents who are supportive, positive influencers, understanding, caring, helpful, honest, and well-renowned teachers in life.
Wish they had those "nurture groups" in *secondary* schools, I mean we need support too..... All we really need is someone to talk to and someone to understand us. It takes one person to make your life a misery. And it only takes one person to help reverse that.
I didn't have a nurture room in my primary school but do have one I'm my high school. Weird.
PantheraPardus 28 I spent most of my time in the nurture group and when I moved to high school they have something called LB1 & 2 it’s a very similar thing most schools have something like that you just have to have a recognised problem like anxiety sever bullying ptsd ect but sadly a lot of problems in teens it goes undetected
We have those nurture groups in our high school 🎒📚😂
I have one nd I’m in secondary
My nephew has one of sorts. But he's getting kicked out. His behaviour is just getting worse and worse. The school bent over backwards to help him. Later starting times. But he still won't go to class. He wonders off and comes and goes as he pleases
I understand as I hated school. But the school has done everything to help him. He does nothing to help himself.
What is happening at home? All good and well in the class room, but kids act out what is going on at home
Probably got spoilt at home and do what they want without any consequences.
Cheers for the Video clip! Sorry for butting in, I would love your initial thoughts. Have you considered - Trentvorty Kids Science Theorem (erm, check it on google should be there)? It is a smashing one off product for becoming an excellent parent minus the normal expense. Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my old buddy Taylor at last got cool results with it.
Or they could be being abused, you never know. Abusers are good at hiding it.
Or they're struggling with a disorder? My daughter has severe combined ADHD, and eventually her frustration grew and grew until she developed ODD. As soon as doctors were able to treat her (had to wait until age 7) and she began taking medicine, her behaviours subsided. It had nothing to do with lack of love or attention, she's behind in some skills and didn't know how to cope with the emotions it stirred up. But, like in this show, some intervention while young turned everything around, and she is a happy kid again. I had to learn positive parenting because traditional methods don't work with these kids. It has nothing to do with being too soft, and everything with modelling respect, as opposed to preaching it.
@@blackswan1983 I didn't mean for it to come off as me saying that it has to be abuse causing these problems, I was just pointing out that it can be sometimes. I grew up abused myself. Nobody knew it and my parents were good at hiding it, so they put every label under the sun on me. I think that happens to a lot of children and I try to shine a light on it whenever possible. I'm sorry.
I"m curious if any of these children have been professionally assessed for such issues as ADHD, FAS/E, ODD, Learning Disabilities, etc. Behaviour can be representative of so many things and not always willfulness and poor parenting. I am glad to see that some program involve the parents. Some of those children may benefit from a combination of behavioural psychology and pharmacology. Additionally, increasing the amount of physical exercise can also benefit these challenging kids.
I know i used to get angry and now im diegnosed with autism and ADD
I used to act out and now almost 3 years later I have been diagnosed with tics and anxiety
Compared with me I’ve got anger apnea and Down syndrome and Asperger syndrome which made me a little bit disabled and at the moment I’m not showing signs of autism I’m just the person in my own way
It’s hard to get appropriate mental health help for kids sometimes which is also compounded by poor parenting. The UK has a lot of poverty and very young inexperienced parents. It’s a symptom of a wider social issues - where you have poverty, high unemployment, crime and alcohol and drug addiction problems it is going to affect the next generation. At least they are trying to put the resources in now - even if they save a few kids in the end the payoff for the community is great.
I’d love to know
I am a primary school teacher. In my classes I Experience that Kids are in Desperate Need of Bonding. They seem to be out of the house too Early for too long. Their Care givers Change a lot, relationships and all the security, Guidance, boundries and bond changes with them. Thats Not a Problem for a Child from a stable home or if it is very resilient. But most of them do not have stable Homes, so stability in General is just missing. Children acting up because thst Lack of stability and attention. They dont Care anymore if they her attention in a negative Way. Thats better than nothing for them. I also Experience thst Kids tend to be very egoistic this Days. I Think that is because their needs are not Met by caregivers, parents and teachers. They try to Care for themselves.
We also forget that especially Children from unstable Homes miss out in Proper feeding ans Stimulation from an Early Age. This affects their Development not only in a cognitive Way but in a Social and emotional as well. Its very hard to compensate all this as a teacher. And its very hard for a Kid with so much on his Plate to actually learn.
Why are you capitalizing random words? I hope you teach your children proper grammar...
I forgot to change my phone to englisch. The german language capitalizes a lot.
@@Kirsten_is_cursed10 The world doesn't revolve around you, you know.
Growing up as a kid with thyroid problems I would have loved something like the nurture room when I was a kid. I often was very tired and felt very overwhelmed most days by the typical class room inviroment I still have this in high school and I'm finding it hard most days.
I wish this could help in schools in the US. I was diagnosed with autism as well with speech issue. It would be nice if I could go to a room that helped in extra study as well a home environment. Because at nine my grandma died and I sometimes had study issues from fourth to sixth grade. So this would have helped.
immy I know this is super old but I have sever anxiety and because of that I had to switch completely to online school because I couldn’t handle the class room. Most days all I needed was a 10 minute breather in my own space. Instead the corrupt us school called cps on my family because I eventually quit going all together. They wouldn’t put me in the online program until I had gone through extensive mental health evaluations and a form from my doctor. It was insane
This touched a nerve. I wish past teachers and child specialists worked together back in the 80s. It's not that these kids wish to be naughty but they are dealing with adult issues in the home and they are calling for help as they are not old enough to process what's being dished out. My heart goes out to these little lost kids. I hope life gets better for them.
I'm so sorry to my past teachers, I didn't know how to ask for the help needed as I didn't understand my situation.
It’s easier to build up a child than to repair a broken adult.
Thank you
While it's nice to see behaviorally challenged children getting such focused help, what is being done to discourage the behavior that results in these damaged children in the first place? And are these children being professionally evaluated and diagnosed? Student Jason"s mother admitted to abusing alcohol - does he suffer from FAS?
When ill-equipped individuals become parents, it's the children who actually suffer. THAT'S the root of the problem.
Yes in the documentary they talk about how they provide support to the parents to deal with issues and learn better parenting skills. I assume before starting the group a child would be assessed for any disorders and implement stratagies to deal with that.
Whimsey6 Kids should do as the adults tell them Give them a choice. No way These kids need discipline not. Mollycoddling
You can tell from looking at the child he doesn't have FASD, at least not to a diagnosable extreme. Look at the featuresm
Levi needs more intensive psychological help it seems. It’s hard if the issues stem from poor home environment. At least the other children aren’t being made to suffer.
See I agree .. but at the same time what else is to be done?
They children are getting what they want .. being in the center of attention... If they do have a diagnosis what else is there to do ? Meds don't always work ..this child Levi already have a team & this is what the team does they can't make him do anything just make sure he isn't harming himself or an other child.
Sending them home is what the child wants ... They get out of the responsibility of school work .. each child has the teaching staff & parents wrapped around their finger ... So what is the answer .. even when they are diagnosed 🤷
Unless it’s a highly prestigious school or an _absolute_ no tolerance school, every school has at least one problematic student.
What an astounding story! I wish there were more schools like this one. It's unfortunate that many kids with learning/behavioral deficits aren't getting this type of help. The younger they are when you break them of their inappropriate behavior, the better. It will also enable them to learn more efficiently. A lot of children in this population sadly seem to be held back in overall achievements by the general system.
The auto-subtitle function [CC] works perfectly when' they are in Luton and it tries it's hardest when the action moves to Scotland but eventually gives up and just starts inserting random words.
Personally I think they need more of these “helping behaviour teachers” in secondary schools. Older children need someone to talk to sometimes. Also some secondary schools (like mine) don’t even have a ‘quiet room’ or something like that to think and be alone. X
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'no furniture to climb on'
What is that boy climbing on then?
Baylee Bellis the door 😂
Maria Griffin he found a loop hole , a door isn’t furniture
The door, it's a structure.
The door handle
"Quiet room. An empty room without furniture to throw or climb on"
> Show kid climbing on the door
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The way they dealt with the first kid was so backwards in my opinion. They basically gave him complete control, chasing him around and asking him to go to class instead of telling him to go or be punished. Kids these days control their parents and have no consequences for their bad behavior. It's ridiculous!
It's against the law for children to refuse to enter their assigned classrooms and the parents get charged.
*** LoveKnowsNoBounds *** p
Yes it was terrible how they dealt so calmly and compassionately with a boy who was clearly angry and hurting, and that is evident in the fact he made incredible progress in literacy and math and was attending classes happily by the end of the year! Imagine the horrors if we invested a little upfront so that all children had the space to safely express their feelings.
. . . did you even watch to the end?
*** LoveKnowsNoBounds *** hi
Stephanie D... They should express their feelings at home with their parents and tell them all about it. The *parents* are the ones that should be dealing with this kid, and his doctors and psychiatrists. A school isn't supposed to be a psychiatrist's couch for the mentally unbalanced, and teachers shouldn't be required to deal with violent kids that they aren't qualified to deal with, and risk harm. These types of kids should be in a special school with adults equipped to handle their episodes. The majority shouldn't have to give up an environment conducive to learning for the sake of kids that can't, or won't, behave and/or are prone to meltdowns and extreme anger. That's not fair to the majority.
Its just about children respecting their boundaries. It's down to parents who enforce the bounds that cannot and should not be broken. I've grown up respecting my parents and being respectful of not crossing the boundaries they've set. It's not down to the schools to enforce this practice and find out what's wrong. If the parents did their jobs then we would not be in this situation.
Snowflake generation. Everything is scrutinised and fingers pointed, all by idiots.
Okay, but what about the children of neglectful parents who DON’T do that? So many close minded comments on here seem to think these children have no value.
Paris fisher...👏right
@@Kirsten_is_cursed10 People who disrespect others do not have value, those kids are left overs of natural selection, leave them in peace, they will destroy themselves to the common good. Society waits until those turn 18, then imprison them away.
Just the way the main kid played aswel...with the dollhouse thing... Listen to the conversation the toys have... Wonder what his parents are like...
They’re treating Levi like a criminal, why is nobody privately talking to him 1 on 1 simply asking him what the problem is? Poor kid
People like this affected my school life immensely. All the ones who misbehaved used to get free trips if they had a week of good behaviour. For the same trip my parents would have to fork out 100's of pounds. After a period I decided I may as well misbehave as well. Simply because they were the kids that got all the attention and free trips. Unless the kids have real disorders, they should be excluded until secondary school starts.
spot the bully.
@@shannenc.wright7280 Where? I don't see any...
Levi is a kid- he doesn't understand 'choices' that they talk about because he doesn't care. You need to make the choices for him- he HAS to go to class. He HAS to participate in lessons
Some kids just aren’t compatible with public school. It doesn’t mean that they’re bad kids, just that they need a different structure of education. I was one of the “disruptive” children in primary school and I remember crying after school some days because I didn’t understand why I couldn’t keep myself from yelling out and saying whatever was on my mind when the teacher was giving lessons. Eventually I was diagnosed with ADHD and the teachers became more understanding and less punitive, but I spent 3 or 4 years being a disruption to the other kids and not being able to learn anything myself because my disability wasn’t yet diagnosed or properly understood.
Yesterday I watched a Real Stories documentary about children in Gambia. These children were desperate to attend school, but their parents had to pay for the privilege. They had hardly any food or comfort, yet they were well mannered, hard working. My point is to stop indulging the 'Levi's' of this world, send him home! Better still, send him to Gambia.
claire99ism I agree...like I said,it shouldn't be an option...
+Catherine Stanley education starts when you are young correct me if I'm wrong
Abdirahim Mussa Yes!! Basic education starts before you even leave the womb! Teachers don’t get their hands on kids until they’re 4-5 years old. They’ve already had years of ‘teaching’ & some are already experts at manipulating for attention & expressing frustration & pain as pure rage! Other kids shouldn’t have to tolerate their violent & rude behaviour. When I returned to England I was given details of local schools to choose which to apply to. All schools bragged about their specialists & targeted education for special needs (emotionally, behaviourally & educationally) Children. ONLY one of the schools even mentioned high IQ ‘high-flyer’ children’s special needs!
lol I'm from gambia and would die if a acted like this
Exactly! Here in Africa being in school is like being in heaven. It's a privilege you can't imagine! When kids get it they read even with the moonlight because most people can't afford any form of lighting.
Why does livvi not like going to the classroom? The teaches need to stop using that bland room as a punishment and need to find the root of the problem.
LEVI.
God Bless the teachers around the world !
Rules and regulations of early child hoodegucations
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Levi is thriving on the attention he’s getting
How would you deal with him?
And why do you think Levi might want attention, Lady Godiva? Baring in mind this is a child we're talking about here. A child's welfare. Why do you think he might be in need of attention?
@@alisonhenry7330 what is your opinion Alison?
Nothing wrong with thriving on attention, or needing it, or seeking it. All children thrive on appropriate attention, and need it, and it's understandable that they should be able to seek it if they don't get enough of it. But there's inappropriate SEEKING of it, and that's what has to be sorted.
@@richardallport1577 I'm presuming what you're saying is that you don't agree with what I said, Richard. In answer to your question I'd suggest the boy gets some proper time every day to see a child therapist, and the carers manhandling him about the place and penning him in give him some space, develop a rapport with him, and not expect results overnight. This dragging him about nonsense further frightens an already frightened child, and also further disempowers a boy who clearly feels belittled at home. Casual, friendly interaction from a carer would help immeasurably. He's not a pet to be tamed, he won't immediately succumb to a magic click of a finger. He's got family troubles, his brain's decided - as brains do - what the best way to survive is, and it's going to take some patience and time to change that. It's no longer fashionable to have patience and give people time, I know. But it's how neuroplasticity works. If you want behavioural change, you have to provide consistent stimulus that contradicts existing thought patterns. It's not 'on demand', it's not 'brand approved', and it's not 'right wing populist tabloid'. It's just how brains work.
Why is Levi allowed recess if he was acting up earlier in the day?!
Meg L Punishing him probably would have made him angrier and caused him to lash out more - it was a safer bet to allow him his break and give him time to cool off.
Meg L it's not recess you yank
Because god forbid anyone actually enforce consequences for his CHOICE to behave like that, amirite?
@Brenda Chown ADHD doesn't work that way, and not holding him accountable is doing him no favors.
He would have got angrier and he would not have gotten energy out so he act up more in class
I had a student in my class who would act up in class every lesson. He was rude and physically and verbally aggressive. We advised his parents to get him assessed for ADHD. He was diagnosed and put on Ritalin. I still teach him and he is now honestly a pleasure to teach.
Good punch the teachers they are oppressers
When I was Levi's age, I did the exact same things at school. I sort of had an excuse because I'm Autistic, but in many other ways I do control myself. I use to get restrained everyday in primary school, then I found out that mainstream wasn't for me so they put me in a special needs school. I did much better there, then I went to a special needs secondary school and didn't do so well there. I'm doing very well.
I'm 52 now but when I was growing up raising children was a family thing aunts uncles nans and grandads all had a role in a child's life. Now a day's people don't socialise family's don't have as many get togethers. This impacts on children's lives.
They need to be having serious talks with the parents! These kids are disrupting and making it difficult for the other kids to learn
These kids need to be punished
marc labrie that’s not how to deal with a child like this. pls keep ur outside opinions to ur self.
I wonder when we'll stop looking at the children and start looking at the school system that does not cater for neurodivergent people as the problem? ADD/ADHD, ODD, FAS/E, OCD and Bipolar Disorder go undiagnosed and are not catered for by an education system which hasn't changed much in 200 years. No wonder we're losing these kids, and losing great teachers who quite because they cannot cope with limited resources and support.
New thinking required.
At 9:44, that little girl just standing there, letting the rain hit her face...oh to be young again!! That baby girl doesn't have a care in the world at that moment.
Those primary’s chills be bigger than my secondary school
If you tell a child to make the right choice or go home the child is obviously gonna choose home
When I was young, if kids behaved like Levi, they were generally sent to "Special school" because it was assumed that there was something wrong with their intellect and it was seen as being too disruptive for the other regular students.
And that was probably the best thing because special schools have the teachers with the adequate knowledge and understanding of disorders like Pathological Demand Avoidance that most of these children have.
except those schools are then losing a space for a child that ACTUALLY needs it
Bad things can happen when assumptions are made. My husband was very disruptive in school, and as a result was sent to a "special class". Turns out, he was extremely gifted, and was very, very bored. They got it wrong because of their assumption. He still has a lot of resentment today because of how he was handled as a child.
I worked as a teacher for a large part of my professional life. A big issue is that men don't want to be teachers and that the male role model and influence has vanished. As a man, I gave up teaching because the risk that a mere allegation posed to my career and life was too much of a risk so I chose to teach adults instead. I bet you all noticed a complete lack of males in the school system. I would also wager that many of those children come from single mother households.
LEON
I'm a female teacher. And you are absolutely correct.
I’m a single mother and I worry about this lack of Male role model for my son everyday! I try to be both mum and dad!
At my primary school there wasn't a single male teacher
I noticed the few male teachers and I noticed the male students listened more to the males. Male teachers gravitate to senior school and I can understand why.
i'm shocked by this behaviour, What has happened? Children have been given too much power, but then in the same sentence my stepson was put into a whole day of reflection (out of his classes) for being 2 mins late! He's a top achieving student....except in math, he, and I asked if he could attend the extra classes already in place, but he was told no, because he wasn't in the top set. I asked why could he not attend, to be told it would upset the Ofsted results should he fail. I can't even begin to understand that, Why hold a child back when he's asking for help? Because of Ofsted....it's just wrong.
I agree there, very much. It's stupid!
I feel awful for Levi. Haven't the school ever considered 1-1 learning so he doesn't have to go into a classroom that is clearly causing him stress and anxiety? I hated watching that kid being restrained and treated like a criminal without the teachers considering other learning options for him. But no schools don't think like that do they because they want to shove kids into a busy, noisy classroom day in day out and teach them all a group mindset and force them to work "in a team" denying any individual learning opportunities for any of them. I'm sick of this "you must be like everyone else otherwise your not trying" mindset that most schools seem to have. School isn't a nice place for kids like him, for those reasons. No one considering other possibilities just "you need to make a choice" over and over, which usually only makes it easy for the teachers not the child 🙄
Awwww do you???? What if it were your child in the same class having a chair thrown at them, injured , cant learn due to the same kids who we are all spending all day saying awww awwww !! Something is wrong and the kids behaving get the least attention.
@@rippinitupwithjamie1478 Most children that have problems at school are like that due to problems going on at home. I do not think it is right for teachers to punish a child without looking for an underlying cause first. For example when a child is living in a difficult home and the teachers exclude them they are being sent to the place where the abuse is for days at a time the teachers only reason is that childs behavior being "disruptive" or "out of control" , the teachers fail to wonder why the child is behaving that way and they don't even question that the child could could be struggling , they are just given negative labels and told to stay home, that same home that could be abusive. Some children act up as a cry for help, ever heard of an "Attachment Disorder" ? Attachment Disorders are caused by neglect of a childs emotional or physical needs in their early childhood (0-5 years) sometimes Attachment Disorders show through a childs behavior which can include a lot of anger and aggression. Depression and anxiety can also show through a childs behavior, they may seem "disruptive" to a teacher but in reality the child is needing help and doesn't know how to express what is happening to them or that they need support. Usually these are behaviors that teachers punish. I am not saying that other children in the class should be forced to put up with it, what I am saying is that it isn't right for teachers to punish children and claim they are "badly behaved" when they have not looked at the underlying problems which in a lot of cases is caused by a bad home life and children struggling mentally and don't know how to explain what's happening or that they need help so they show it through their behavior instead. Most of the time they don't need punishment they need support.
I don't really know what you want the individual teachers to do. You seem to want them to have infinite time and resources in their hands and they don't. It's like yelling at a McDonald's employee for the long waiting times for food when that low-level employee is doing everything they can under bad management. Be mad at the people who actually run the schools like this.
@gemmawilson9227 I have a similar role in a secondary school. We’d love to support every need of a child. Whether that’s 1-1 support, alternative timetables, but the fact is the funding just isn’t there that’s needed for facilities, resources and staffing. Special schools are closing, the special schools left are full so these kids are pushed into mainstream schools and with limited resources we adapt as much as we can to the needs of the kids. We as a school say we can’t meet a child’s needs but if a child has an EHCP and names a school we have to give them a place. Local authorities recommend mainstream schools Eventhough its not suitable because there is no other facilities elsewhere. It’s sad, at times unsafe and extremely frustrating for parents, students and the teachers that work with them, but we try our very best!
And for the restraint, when a child is hanging off a light, throwing scissors at staff, climbing 8 ft fences they are over stimulated. So taking them to a room with minimal stimuli is going to be best to calm them down. If they aren’t being aggressive and dangerous an adult will join them in that room. We also do aftercare after this time, whether that’s a sleep, eat/drink, music, colouring and also talking about what happened and how they felt.
It’s not nice but it’s better than the harm that can be done!
There maybe schools where a child’s needs and background are ignored but in this case, these kids will have key workers who have regular contact with parents and caters. Fully aware of how difficult their situations are, so when consequences are out in place for negative behaviours those circumstances are entirely considered!
@joeybakes7506 I understand, the government play a big part in children's education and it seems when it comes to funding special needs education, they are terrible. I am all for a quiet room where a child goes to take their anger out or calm down, it is the restraining him like a criminal and trying to drag him into the school/classroom that I didn't like. But a quiet room is a much better option and aftercare is a great idea. A special school near me nearly shut until parents had a meeting with the council and demanded it stayed open as they would refuse to send their kids to a mainstream school as it wasn't right for their children, it is sad that they had to fight to keep that school open, but the council have questioned shutting it again after this academic year and I hate to think what will happen to the children there. It isn't just for kids with special needs it is for children who suffer from anxiety and depression and mainstream school isn't the right place for them. Until children's mental health is taken as a priority in our education system by the government, I don't think we will see many changes when it comes to supporting special needs children or those who struggle with trauma or mental health difficulties. The education system in this country needs to change.
The people at the pastoral care team are saints!
Kate really understands the kids
Why empower Levi like that? If he gets away with it at school he will think he can get away with it anywhere and then BOOM, one day he meets someone who doesn't give a shit about his 'entitlement' and they knock him out - or worse. It is not fair on the other kids.
Okay, think about it like this. All throughout my elementary school life I had problems just like these kids. I was disruptive, rude, and violent. I didn't know why. I couldn't stay in a class room for longer than fifteen minutes. America has programs kind-of like these that really helped me when I was younger. Now being in Highschool I only need to be in small group for math. I can be in a classroom setting with the rest of the kids and do my work and listen to the teachers without disrupting other children. This should be funded. This gives the children a chance for a proper education and a better future.
How exactly did they "empower" him? What did he "get away with?" and how is he "entitled"? Were we watching the same video? lol I honestly can't understand what your point is at all.
The nurture group is a lot like the additional resource centre my son goes to, the resource centre is their for children with Complex social and emotional needs. They also seek to the root cause of the problem.
( My son joined the resource centre after he was regularly disrupting class and having to be sent home almost every day)
Thanks to the resource centre he goes to. We found out that he had:
• Autism
• ADHD
• Tourette syndrome
And a form of dyspraxia
Yet more about schools being expected to parent. Ugh. It's the parents' job to raise well mannered, nice kids who treat people with respect.
BratBusters Parenting
Simply put, it's cheaper than foster care. It's clear that the majority of these kids are most likely having problems at home. The thing is (again, for the majority of kids), the problem isn't behavioral. It's a symptom of psychological aggravation that don't yet have the vocabulary to express. Instead of "behavior targets," I wish these people would sit down with a kid and just fucking ask him or her what's going on, what are they thinking, feeling, etc. But no, we do the usual bighead bullshit - talk AT them and show them consequences. The latter gets the job done, albeit also teaches kids to internalize their feelings. This leaves them at high risk for self-destructive behavior as they grow older. It doesn't address the real problem. Moreover it would help with a statistic that rarely gets mentioned: in the US, approximately only 10% of abuse cases get reported. Many times a kid will present symptoms, there's a meeting (with the parent who is either abusing or tacitly allowing), and the parent's response is taken at face value. Those 10%, I reckon, are those cases where the child either has the courage to approach the teacher, or the abuse is so egregious that it cannot be ignored (as in, fear of potential lawsuit). To be frank, I don't think many teachers, like many parents, are truly qualified for the job.
**Actually, I regret the use of the word "courage" up top. "Desperation," maybe, I don't know.
Veronica Gombar ...there is an excellent program in Massachusetts USA called LABBB Educational Collaborative. Google them,check them out🙄
Hello. My son is also suffering from behavioral difficulties and a doctor said he seems to be suffering from conduct disorder. it's a mental disorder. NOT always bad parenting. Just a thought.
Some of my clients' children have been diagnosed with "conduct disorder" which we treat with parental leadership and discipline.
I spent years mentoring troubled kids in schools so am well aware of government funded school initiatives to train parents. That was unheard of just a couple of generations ago when parents were responsible for their children's behaviour. If kids were really naughty they went sent home for their parents to deal with. Could you imagine if that was done these days, schools would be empty!!!
Kids who don't respect others don't respect themselves. It's horribly sad as what chance do they have in life? I'd like to see money put into training parents on how to give and get respect before kids even start school. Would save millions in the long run.
Incredibly insightful and intelligent children!! Every moment with these children and supporting them is creating an amazing human!!
Nope. Bratty, s.tty children
Now i see what it takes to actually be a teacher i think i should definately respect my teachers lawl
I'd hate to be a child in school these days. Parents need to be firm with their children
The thing is when i was growing up in the 70's and eighties as a kids. we just couldn't behave like this. We were put in our place firmly. We had boundaries we couldn't cross and for the most part we didn't.
Suey indeed . Although l hated it at the time, my parents strictness made me a better person. A nail that sticks up will be hammered down, as my father used to say.
you are absolutely right!
Suey its mental health also classed as a brain disorder look it up alot kids never get help because of the cuts that government makes
I think in some cases yes, but in some cases it is clearly just misbehaviour. Today society panders to children too much. Kids need boundaries and they need to be told no. They need to be told you sit down do as you are told. There are kids that have ADD and kids that have ADHD. i am not denying that. But, i think these issues are overdiagnosed. Kids that are just plain misbehaving, not doing what they are told and disrupting everyone else. And, it has nothing to do with learning or social difficulties. When i was at school i did have learning issues. Behaviour issues as a result. But, i was still firmly put in my place. And, rightly so!
And everyone from your generation turned out great I guess
Happy to see the parents were on board and was ready to work with the school so it could be come together and work for the children. All schools, nursery in this day and age should have nurture rooms.
Brilliant programs, I am so impressed by how effective they are.
Some children are not just naughty...
Some may have
• Autism
• ADHD
• Learning problems
• problems at home ( such as Alcohol abuse, drug abuse, violence etc
• anger Issues
• Dyslexia
• developmental level
Don’t look just at the behaviour look for the cause of it ❤️
Minicat, What?
Minicat, Ohhhhh lol 😂
Chase Ambrose, Yes my son is on the autism spectrum ( professionally diagnosed) I go to a meet and greet with other moms with children who have ASD, one mom ( I won’t say their child’s name) has a son who is always naughty when he didn’t get the cake he wanted he screamed and kicked his mom. She explained to the lady who was on the cake stand “ Oh he’s Autistic he does that sometimes”
All children have tantrums scream, cry and even throw chairs. I feel that when a parent hears that their child has ( Autism, ADHD etc) they start excusing every bad or rude behaviour to be to do of their child’s condition.
I understand it can be hard to distinguish a common temper tantrum to a sensory related outburst but still 👍🏻
Chase Ambrose, I have also not told my son he is on the spectrum.
He was diagnosed with Autism at age 4 ( he is 6 now) at the time I knew he was too young. When my son was 5 I tried to explain but he just got confused. My son was Diagnosed on the moderate to severe end of the Autism Spectrum. He goes to a specialist school and struggles to communicate.
I feel now he doesn’t have the level of understanding to know what it means to be Autistic. If in the future I feel he could understand and comprehend it I would tell him. But at the moment I’m not going to tell him and neither is his school 🏫👍🏻
I can understand why. But even if I have Autism, I don't use my mental disability to misbehave.
There’s more disruptive children because they get told to behave like an adults and get spoken to like babies . It’s like when they behave like kids their not allowed to but when they try to take control of what they want to do they have to do what adults tell them . Kids get angry because they’ve been suppressing their energy for hours on end and can’t channel it like adults can . At the end of the day , kids are kids , and a row of desks and having to focus in silence for hours doesn’t let them have childhoods . Adults ask young teens why they want jobs and to leave school and be independent, it’s because ever since they were 7 years old they’ve been told to behave like adults and are sick of being seen as less than their teachers . It’s not the kids fault that the school systems outdated and corrupt . And another thing , homework is just a way to stress kids out at home as well as school it literally wastes their only time to unwind on more pointless stress .
jesus. this didnt exist back in the days when i went to school and im not even 30.
It didn’t exist when I was in primary school and that was only 5 years ago
because over the last few years society has gone down the bloody toilet permanently
It did. Early intervention however didn't.
I'm 37 and wish this was an option when I was in school, there were so many kids that would have benefited from the nature room : /
Aron Luminous yup a ruler to the hands once was good enough for me to ever act out in my classes at school. Nuns do not play they had zero problems with smacking your hands or butt in front of the entire class.
I can count on one hand throughout my entire school attendance that any child disruption/violence happened, so it makes me wonder what is happening these days that is different? I recently listened to a radio show about teachers in one school wearing bullet proof vests in America. Other than mental illness, how you behave and what is appropriate starts at home with parents. I think rather than exposing other children and teachers to such stress, shall we go back to institutions for the difficult/troubled children? integration is not always fair to everyone.
The trouble is that many struggling children are not disruptive, and the quietly suffering ones can be neglected. I do think that Nurture Groups sound positive, though.
Spend money on resources at this level, less money & heart ache spent in mental/criminal institutions later...
Something is causing the problem & not always the parents fault ! This didn't occur years ago ! But discipline was enforced as a deterrent not necessarily carried out ! Think the respect for adults is not being taught in home & school environment !?!? Children need boundaries & not to be pandered to ! Some kids think they can control adults & they do !!!
This did occur years ago. We had a few children in my school that were disruptive. (This was in the 70's) It's always been around. People just tend to turn a blind eye to it to fit an agenda.
i used to act like these kids in primary school.
i was just being bullied and had to get therapy because no one believed me.
Jordan's mom keeps breaking into a smile, while describing Jordan's disruptive behavior. It makes me wonder if she is one of those parents who tend to label their child's "bad behavior" as " high-spirited " and amused by it. Hopefully, her smiling was because she was nervous in front of the camera.
ADHd, ODD and like form because of such mothers, all of them are like that.
@@svetavinogradova4243 Prove it.
Why doesn’t Levi want to take classes? If I were his teacher I wouldn’t send him to quiet room if he is refusing to go to class because I think it just teaches him to behave in a way that helps him to avoid class. I would give him another consequence for disruptive and aggressive behaviour, and positive reinforcements for taking part in lessons and activities.
This is truly heartbreaking beyond belief....I’m a student going into my degree year studying youth work and seeing this just goes to show that there is not enough funding put into place for young people. I don’t agree with lifting and dragging them to there “classroom” or “quiet room” because doing that only makes that vulnerable(Levi) more frustrated and uncomfortable. I really hope that all the young people on this...have and get the correct support they need💓
Good Discipline and good manners starts at home. These are the basic rules parents must lay down for their children. There is NO negotiation about it.
And if the parents dont know that because they were neglected/abused too
That quiet room should be filled with white noise.. it works wonders
Have they tried not living in Glasgow? That would mess anyone up.
I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned at all that these kids are typically 30% behind in executive functioning, compared to their peers. That includes identifying and dealing with emotions. They see their peers doing well at things they can't grasp, and frustration builds. Programs like these truly help them until they catch up.
How my Mum managed to teach Primary age for 40yrs astounds me.......I'd kill this lot if they were in my class!
Dear god, u must know your child is this bad before you send them to school!!! Are you parenting them????
my mother did, teachers had more control up until a few years ago. now they have to roll over and let the kids do what they want. it's tragic
My mother taught all ages for many years. In 1968 she taught the Joy group, so called, at Preston High school for girls because they were all troubled kids who were dumped into the one class and my mother taught them for every lesson except PE. Now my Mum is awful at Math, she uses her fingers and toes to count with. The math teacher would talk my mum through the lesson and my mother would run into the classroom write it on the blackboard, telling the girls everything she could remember. Then she'd say 'That's it, I can't remember anything else! ' The girls would work it out and the ones who understood taught the class and attempted to teach my mum! It was a wonderful life lesson for them. They didn't have to know everything to be able to succeed in life. In the final exams at the end of the year, the Joy groups math results were on our with the A class's results, much to my mother's amusement. I do remember quite a few of those girls buying my mother a gift with their first paycheck. She was their last teacher, it was their final year of school, year 10.
What the heck else are they gunna do with their child even if they do recognise their behaviour is bad?? School is statutory in the UK, what are they gunna go keep them off school just because their behaviour is bad and rack up thousands of pounds worth of fines?! Not even considering most of the parents will need to work!
“ ‘It’s not fair’ Nothing is fair!” I felt that-
Nurture groups work! They should be in every school!!
They're not "nurture groups" they are basic civilization groups.Taking absolute savages and trying to instill civilizational basics.
I was at times one of these problem children. I have autism, Adhd and I process information much slower than others my age making things like make a long boring process for my brain. I know how these kids think and I can honestly say, Telling the child not to walk out of the room is the OPPOSITE what what they should be doing! He has found a method that calms him, Removing ones self from the situation is a very big step! It shows that he can take a breath and let it go rather than feeling like he has to stay and have the last word. To this day I still often can’t let go of an argument, I always want to be right and if i’m not the last one to say something, I feel angry! Before the child can handle staying in the classroom he needs to be provided with better ways to calm himself.
For example some children feel that coloring is very calming. Have a space in a corner of the classroom. When the child is overwhelmed he may ask that he is allowed to color in order to calm himself. To prevent arguments about having to leave the drawing table, The child will be provided one just 1 coloring page to complete (A time limit may be require for children who tend to spend more than 30 minutes at a time to start with). Once the child completes the coloring page he should eventually be able to get up on his own and return to his desk. If the child does not want to leave and wants to continue coloring after the time limit or after the child has completed the page, a good strategy is to make deals with the child that involved rewards example: “Tell you what, Let’s try to spend 15 minutes doing the lesson, and if you make through the entire 15 minutes, you can complete another coloring page! Does that sound okay?”
This is something that would’ve been very effective for myself when i was younger. It still would to this day. You can’t expect 5 minutes to enough for a child, When your enjoying something it feels like hardly a split second.
Jordyn has now been in trouble and sent up for attempted murder. Guess something got dropped somewhere from then to now. smh
How’d you know?
& where exactly did you hear this? Don’t believe everything to read on the internet 🙄
Jordyn's been getting away with murder their whole life
No you don’t now do you
A lot of these issues in schools are not just because they want to misbehave. It’s because they might not get enough attention at home, therefore they act up in school. Or they are depressed due to an incident at home, therefore they might not be participating in lessons. Stop the home issues then the behaviour at school can stop as well.
How lovely for Jason what a great swimmer so happy and alive. God bless the kids awwww +++
Sit next to the kid and ask them what’s going on. And then, LISTEN. that’s what they need. Even if they are being disruptive they are screaming for help. They need help. Not to be screamed at.
In Germany they have different schools for children with violent behavoural problems / ADHD and for children who have S.E.N ie very slow learners and mild mental health handicaps, other schools for children who have more severe mental health handicaps. Staff ratios and support are brilliant and the buildings are also brilliant. Why should children with normal behaviour have their school days disrupted. It's a dam sight better system than we have in the UK. Wonder what their home lives are like? Looks like some of them need psychological help
Denise G- Hill and that school system chooses a child's life at 11 and that is wrong
themysteriousgamer
no not so
These are not kids with special needs, these are simply spoiled brats who need a good shouting at
I have been to the special school in Jever in Germany where my brothers foster son goes. No spoilt brats. There are children with learning difficulties whose Mothers were on alcohol and drugs whilst pregnant. There are children who have brain damage and can't cope in an ordinary school setting. There are children from violent backgrounds who have severe emotional problems.none of them could cope in a ordinary school setting.
Because segregation is illegal and morally wrong. Beyond that, studies show that mainstreaming is good for both disabled students AND "normal" students.
My mum does intervention in her job at primary school along with nurture groups and behaviour groups and I see it really interesting as she works with a child physiology!
I am not an English Native speaker (married to one though) but I ADORE the Scottish accent
I never disrupt classes at all it’s the teachers that are always being disrespectful towards me and they never show any respect for me whatsoever
This seems like the same problem that happens at my secondary school. The reason behind the kids behaviour is usually a result of problems at home. One of the girls that acts up was abused when she was younger and her dad is now under a restraining order. And another one of the girls hasn’t seen her dad in 4 years because he has been in jail and her mum is a recovering drug addict. It isn’t always the kids fault. Kids learn from their parents actions and if their parents actions are showing that it is ok to shout and swear and throw things then how are the kids meant to learn common rules and responsibilities. ( I live just outside of Glasgow )
No our she will be in child service theirs not that bad go to my school crazy time swearing punching fights gangs and it’s only primary
whoa! do they really need to coddle to that kid? Just tell him what's what and don't give him a choice. yikes
because children need to learn they have a choice in how they behave and realise the connection between those choices and the consequences that result.
@@rosiejl2798 Yeah, because that's *_clearly_* working a charm for the poor bedraggled teachers in this vid. //rolls eyes so hard they stay that way... aaaand now I'm blind//
People like you are why these kids are messed up to begin with...yikes indeed.
I really hope you don't have kids.
3 minutes into the video and I question why the teachers have to deal with this. Seriously why? Send them make to mom and dad. Why do the other kids have to suffer this kid of behavior?
Corinne C it’s not the kids fault at all . It’s the system that makes them suppress all their energy to sit and focus for hours and not all kids can cope with that but the systems not designed for individuality and is more designed for a statistic .
As a society we've chosen a group of people to responsible for all the children while the other adults do their jobs. Most of education is just monitoring children , keeping them occupied while the rest can get work done.
@@hannahdiane8451 thank you exactly what I was thinking. When they pointed out that they identified many different needs ect, well obviously 🤦♀️
This approach to children's disruptive behavior was designed to allow the child to help children control their emotions and make good choices for themselves. The hope is to have children become able to recognize and regulate their behavior as teenagers and adults on their own without the need for someone else to try and control them. Sometimes this approach works and sometimes it doesn't. If it fails then the child will be at higher risk of anti-social behavior later (committing crimes, illegal drug use, etc.). These teachers are attempting to do what the parent should already have done in the home.
What most parents fail to realize is a public education was never to be a child's primary source of education. It was meant to be an extension and support of a parents teaching.
If only we could go back to the days when you should have already taught your child the basics.
I remember having to be tested before admitting me into school. All my children as well.
When parents do their job a child finds school enjoyable. They know whats expected and have no anxiety or fear.
I raised nine of my own children and several fosters. They all entered school with the ability to read, write, numbers, name, primary colors. All the basics one should expect a kindergartener to know upon entering.
The kinder teacher of the youngest child said to me in 1999 I am so sorry but your child is going to have a rough time in my class. I am looking for a class better fit for him throughout the district but have yet to find one. If he remains here he will begin to hate school having long term problems.
What the hell? Yes those words popped out of my mouth.
She said we've completed testing and not a single child in this school but your child is prepared to begin school.
It had been over ten years since I enrolled a child in school. I was disgusted. Why should teachers and students who have proper parents suffer due to the laziness of neglectful parents.
Do bother giving me the BS have to work crap because I am simply going to ask you one question. Why the hell would you have a child if you did not have the time and resources for said child?
Don't come at me with the special needs of the child either because some of my foster kids had far more severe mental and physical scars than most others yet they all entered school prepared. ADD to ADHD to Autism all the way to Downs yet each and every one of them entered school prepared.
Children who are disruptive or are born into the unfortunate situation of having neglectful parents should be removed from school so they do not hender the education of the masses.
Hi I agree with you. My dad's a lecturer and my mum a social worker. Even though they were both out working one of them read me a book each night. When I went to school I could tell the time, read and write basic sentences and stories and speak basic bits of French. I love my parents for all they did, (sometimes my dad would take me to a museum instead of school he said 'a schooling is not an education' lol) I was recently diagnosed with bipolar but feel I suffered episodes from being about 8. Every child is different and there are kids who will internalise or vocalise their emotions and I think this type of support is needed. But I agree with your comment. I hope when I have children I will be like my parents x
Everyone has the right to education!
Francesca Foster my daughter is 10 and I still read TO her daily. She enjoys it and I enjoy it while she’ll still let me. Plus she can enjoy books she can’t quite read herself yet. She can just curl up and listen. We ended up taking her out of school last year when she was 9 because a 14 year old was beating her up all the time. This behavior was so common and she hated going. We didn’t put her back and chose to homeschool. Those kinds of kids make normal kids quite anxious
My children were both the same, I got reprimanded for teaching my eldest both the phonetic and the normal alphabet before she started school. She could read, write and do simple maths, and I worked.
There is no excuse for bad parenting.
My youngest is Autistic and this came with a whole new set of challenges, but again she entered school being able to write and simple maths, reading was difficult as we later found out she is dyslexic.
I home educated her from 13 years old because the school system was not working for her, she attended college and did a music course and now holds down a job while she decides which direction to take her life. I firmly believe that if I had left her in school she would have been damaged for life.
Both have grown to well-adjusted adults, although my youngest still struggles with social skills and anxiety to change. I spent hours researching Autism and finding ways to support my child and am now supporting my eldest daughter who has a son who is Autistic.
I still don't agree with some of the working practices in school, such as isolation, as this can have a traumatic effect on children. Adverse childhood experiences (ACEs) can affect children for life, and more needs to be done to support, tackle and educate about this.
But then what happens to the kids of neglectful parents? Do they just not get an education and therefore are doomed to failure simpym for having crappy parents?
I am a RN and I'm glad I'm not a teacher ...God Bless these teachers
what's a RN?
Kids today have too much control. I hate nurture interventions because it basically says naughty kids can get nice things, nice classes and rewards
Some kids have never had anyone be nice to them so they don't know how to be nice to other people. You can't go on to be a normal human if you've never been nurtured and made to feel safe!
I'm sorry but how is it such a challenge to stay in class and have basic manners. The parents needed to teach manners, basic respect, teach the bloody kid how to speak properly and how to not get angry and calm down when they are angry. These parents failed these kids and they're only in primary school. It makes me so sad
putting a child in an isolated room with nothing in it is unacceptable and phyisically handleing the kids is not ok
Hopefully this is a start for the future where every school has a nurture room. It should be compulsory and funded by the Government. With 14,000,000 families living in poverty life is tough for these young pupils. We should stop being judgmental and just support families and allow these children to be able develop their potential. In doing so it allows the teachers not to be distracted and support the others in the classroom. A win win situation for everybody.
Jo Frost needs to visit these kind of schools
Parents should be ordered to classroom with children.
So he is rewarded with tons of attention and no academic class for acting like an asshole--YAY!! The height of irresponsibility, making it worse. It's not like data on behaviorism isn't available. This is vile.
When i was 5 years old my father took me from my mother with her conscent, to live with him and his new wife.
It quickly bacame apparent to me that she took an instant dislike to me, more like hatered. She had four children of her own. Anyway the abuse started off almost immediately making me stand in the corner of the room facing the wall for absolutely no reason that a five year old child would understand anyway. The days went on with low level mental abuse, well to a five year old boy it was devastating. My father was a long distant driver so all this abuse took place when he was out, but he could see that I was unhappy there. So her four children started to bully me and attacked me in the house. They had a dog that use to nip me, and they would all just laugh. I started to hear her mother say to her, "Why don't you just dump him somewhere." So after a year of mental tourment at the hands of everyone in that house, she finally decided to take her mothers advice and dump me on the street I was only 6 years. So Social services placed me with a foster family but after a year the moved me to a children's home. That was a blow to me because I became part of a loving family. When I was 8 years old they moved me to another children's gome where I stayed for 8 years. I left the children's home when I was 16, then they moved me to another children's home for a year, then when I was 17 they moved me to an half way house to get me use to an independant life. I left the care system as I went in feeling alone, worried, & affraid. Of course i have not put every awful experience in this post. Thank You.................................