@@OtenP_yeah man, McIndus has pay walled almost the entire scene and went to war with Tsuna simply because Tsuna wanted the scene to get a Mod Manager.
it's absolutely depressing. if only something as complete as the moguri mod+memoria engine stuff was available for ff8 it would be incomparably better. Instead we have a bunch of scattered mods, most of the better ones are paywalled and it just doesn't feel as great even after installing all of them.
Whats upsetting about this mod is on the dev page they dont even let you donate like yes thats amazing but idk feels kinda wrong also they pretty much remastered ff9 they deserve something
@@Nikketsinne Made it work really easily. Just downloaded the Memoria Patcher from the main website, made it run as a non-steam game and it will do its thing really fast. After that when you launch FFIX it will take you to the Memoria Launcher :D
in the previous moguri 8.3.0.0 launcher there was an option to change audio sample rate. now it's gone. I keep hearing subtle static noise in the background. how to fix that?
Echo S9 on mine stopped working on Ice Cavern any way to fix this? Tried re-installing the mod nothing happened. When I tried a new game it works tho it stops working onwards once I reached Ice Cavern
@@KeithVonFabre damn sorry to hear that, to be honest I haven’t play through the demo since a while back. I used saves I had for this video, I’m not very familiar with how to troubleshoot this. I would recommend joining the tsunamods discord and go to “mod support”
@@wicked-witch-of-the-west well the moguri mod is exclusive to ff9 I believe since it’s using the memoria engine. FF7 has Cosmos limit break that enables widescreen and used SYW field and battle textures.
Is the voice acting mod complete for the whole game or is there another one besides Echo 9S? Last time I saw activity on their UA-cam channel was over 7 months ago which has me worried :(
@@OtenP_ I will keep my fingers crossed that they finish it :). I'd even offer my raspy voice to help haha. Also it would be sweet if they do work on Legend of Dragoon as well since they teased it
@@SeraphEvenstar3000 Hoping to finish this year, but no promises. If you want a nice in depth long answer, check the community post I just typed up on the channel
@@Syntherus definitely, I’ve seen everyone using it and like you said just doesn’t do well with the backgrounds. But at least we have options other than that which is awesome
I don't think we should be supporting modern Squeenix butchering of their franchises just because we want to support the no-longer-existing Squaresoft from 20 years ago.
This is an oversimplified perspective. At the end of the day the market has changed and they had to adjust. I’m sure we share the same issues with square Enix and certainly we can do whatever we want with our money. While I’m longing for a fresh new mainline game that is turn based I can still enjoy the newer games for story and the play styles aren’t terrible just not traditional jrpg.
Good Video, but PLEASE, NEVER EVER recommend Key sellers! They're ALL scamers! Unless they tell you where they got the keys, they got them from frauded creditcards!
it's cool but i reaaaaaly don't like anime like dubs in english, they really sound like deranged teenagers just about to shoot meth or something, i just can't. Nothing against voice actors because they are doing a great job, it's just me.
That’s understandable. But at least you’re polite about it, it’s crazy how many people comment on this fan voice acting project and are straight up aholes.
@@OtenP_ it might be because even when I was a teenager I hated dubbing in general and this is how I was introduced to all forms of media. Hell, I even searched for Ps2 undub isos way back in late 2000's.Ff12 International zodiac age and radiata stories undub were great with eng subs with og voices :D
@@Gluemn haha, it was a half joke. I Used to work in a small town about 5 years ago and I've picked up skateboarding, quite a lot of cynical, angsty and rebellious late teens with drinking and drug problems around the skatepark area
@@Gluemn heh, who knows. People were quite friendly and other than this small subset of people (it's not like all of the people who skated of course we're druggies) I had fun. I actually preffered to live in a smaller community. If I ever manage to have a remote job I might move to a smaller town, preferably somewhere near the mountains :)
The moguri mod is awful. Talentless weebs with no understanding of visuals. AI can only smooth out a picture and remove noise not create detail where there is none. All it manages to do is make the game look cheap. The menus are awful, no filters or scanlines which is important in covering up the lack of detail. Moguri mod just turns everything into looking like toys. No point in getting worked up about it.
I mean that’s a pretty awful take but everyone has their opinion. You sound like you know what you’re talking about, why not help out or make your own mods
@@OtenP_ I had a look at it once, but there's too much wrong with it. Simply getting it back to the quality of the original is months of works. Things that the PC port lacks that the original had. •Menus designed to be navigated with a controller not a finger on a touchscreen. •Menus that were animated. •Backgrounds that seamlessly transitioned into the 3d models, you couldn't tell where one started and the other ended. •Scanlines which darkened the picture •Matching font and good placement of speech bubbles. In theory it would be possible to fix all of this. But the menus is the bottleneck, there's no way to animate the menus into view with code as far as I know. Maybe you could use a Mathf:Lerp function. But when you consider that not only the character menu but also the shop menu is screwed up. So much work, and it's not like you can open it up in unity or unreal and do it over a weekend. What takes 2 days is going to take 6 months. And that's only to restore the quality of the original. To improve on it you would need to de-chibifi the characters. And hand paint over the backgrounds to create more detail. People that know how to do it don't have time to do it, and people that have time to do it, don't know how to do it. Moguri mod puts lipstick on a pig, it doesn't fix anything. In fact it's even worse, because the backgrounds and 3d models in high resolution looks incredibly cheap.
@@DanIel-fl1vc Man, that is such a horrible take. Let me ask this. Have you put this request in on their Github page or are you just assuming they do not know how to do it? Calling a passion project like this awful? There has been so much development on this project where they took Square's bad code design and create something new which IS a lot of work. You have all these suggestions, but then say it's too much work to do? You throw a lot of terms around acting as if you know how to do this. Do you have projects you have worked on to back up what you say? I have actively followed all of their development and each developer is passionate on each topic. You also treat AI as if it generated it all by itself when every scene was re-hand drawn. Snouz particularly also has dev streams showing the manual work he does on this and the amount of time it takes for him to get it right. I am not trying to come off as an asshole, but you did not provide constructive criticism, nor did you provide any help to the project itself. If you are the same person who mentioned the menus a bit back ago, you were rude to the entire team and only threw terms around and never actually contributed to help.
@@WarpedEdge Actually just a few days ago on the discord channel. For some reason I'm suggested the same topic on youtube. I've done a lot of work inside unity, creating menus, programmed stuff and I'm very familiar with zbrush and 3d animation. But actual game development is different from changing something that has already been compiled. I'm also familiar with painting and if they've hand painted over every background they're not James Gurney because it's not very impressive. I'm not talking shit, just pointing out what has to be done for it to be as good as the original game, if it isn't as good. Then there's no point in modding it at all. From what I've seen changing the menus is what's difficult. Animating the windows in and out of frame. But even changing the layout might be difficult, because menus are made up of more than just graphics. You got text elements, button elements and different pivot points that allows them to scale properly when resolution is changed. My take isn't bad, the take that this mod makes the remaster as good as the original is a bad take. As I said earlier, high res graphics for a game that has no detail doesn't work. It looks really cheap and if they hand painted every background they did a really bad job because the detail isn't there. And if the detail was there the 3d models would need as much detail. But there's no point in arguing this, I can't convince otaku weebs that their preference for art is bad. Like asking a rapper to abandon their rhymes for mozart. You're living in a completely different world and use different frame of reference. Which explains why you fail to appreciate the guiding principle by which a game like this could be made better. But the remaster doesn't even live up to a playstation 1 game so, there's that.
@@DanIel-fl1vc I'm not some otaku weeb, but a loving fan of FFIX itself. I have seen the journey of FFIX modding since PSX. I enjoy the detail i've seen and sometimes i feel like people forget how bad it looks on ps1 compared to now. The remaster didn't do it justice, but their mods do definitely give it justice to adoring fans of the game. If you have worked on it before and its not something you want to work on, that is fine, but there are things you should consider when providing your feedback in the future to this or other games: 1. These people work on it passion 100% and do not even ask for donations like a bunch of others do 2. They are constantly improving things based on feedback 3. When you give feedback do not call someone's passion project "Awful" or "Bad" as that is just negative and is hurtful for no reason, but maybe explain the direction being taken is taking away from the original and here is why 4. If you know so much about these things but do not want to work on it yourself, try giving the proper nudges of tools to use or references to take from it. Again not trying to be an ass back to you, but the way you worded your initial comment was just unnecessarily negative. Constructive criticism does not require negative jabs.
Haven't been internally screaming "YES!!!" this much in a long time.
Makes me so happy to see others' passion shining through these mods 😢
@@MathiasLenz-is3hc definitely a lot of passion and dedication! They deserve all the praise, truly.
Praying and waiting for Echo S 9 this year to complete this title 🎉
That would be amazing!
Unreal. The footage you showed of combat blew my gd mind
@@teddykayy it’s a whole new game! I been testing out different options and man ff9 combat can be so fast paced
DEYYYM. thank you modders!!
Memoria is amazing.
Edit: I wish McIndus didn't take over the FF8 scene so we could get a true FF8 manager
@@ThatRandomFastingGuy oh really? I had no idea that was the reason. Hopefully in some future something can get done
@@OtenP_yeah man, McIndus has pay walled almost the entire scene and went to war with Tsuna simply because Tsuna wanted the scene to get a Mod Manager.
@@ThatRandomFastingGuy that’s terrible. Thanks for shedding light on this for me
it's absolutely depressing. if only something as complete as the moguri mod+memoria engine stuff was available for ff8 it would be incomparably better. Instead we have a bunch of scattered mods, most of the better ones are paywalled and it just doesn't feel as great even after installing all of them.
I wouldn't know anything about a new FF8 mod manager 👀
@@jamesthecat6065 thank you! Glad you liked it, yeah for sure I’m really excited for the future of 8 in the modding scene
Holy... The modders have done a great job!
They are just making this classic of a game even better
thx nice video, lets go
Ok I'm gonna have to finally commit to an ff9 playthrough. Haven't tried it since I beat it as a kid.
@@teddykayy for sure! You definitely should give it another go.
I'm actually replaying it right now with the toon/outline graphics. The moguri mod makes the game look incredibly good.
great to know you're having a great experience with it
Good lord it's amazing
@@DancinRic right! This game looks so much better and the battles are more fluid.
@@OtenP_ but what about Chocobo Hot and Cold?! Did they fix it? Every time I play it's COLD
@@DancinRic couldn’t tell you, I haven’t really explored the rest of the game after Dali. So the mini game is glitched?
The shadow effect blows me away in this mod..
Whats upsetting about this mod is on the dev page they dont even let you donate like yes thats amazing but idk feels kinda wrong also they pretty much remastered ff9 they deserve something
@@MrWhis-fe5hs I hear ya, I think since it’s a group project and many are helping out they wouldn’t know how to accept donations. That’s just my guess
5:15 cell shading, like Dark Cloud 2.
@@Bloodshade yes!!! Thank you, That’s the game I was referring to but idk why I couldn’t remember lol
I need this to work on Linux :(
UPDATE: Made it work on Pop OS and it's beautiful. It was simpler than I thought.
@@HadesFFGC not familiar with Linux but what’s the issue?
@@OtenP_ It appears that in SteamDeck works (as soon as I made this comment I started investigating deeply) and I have to try in Pop OS now.
Works really well on a Steam Deck 🙌👌
@@Nikketsinne Made it work really easily. Just downloaded the Memoria Patcher from the main website, made it run as a non-steam game and it will do its thing really fast. After that when you launch FFIX it will take you to the Memoria Launcher :D
It does.
in the previous moguri 8.3.0.0 launcher there was an option to change audio sample rate. now it's gone. I keep hearing subtle static noise in the background. how to fix that?
Great question, I wonder if this was by accident that they removed that. Sorry I don't know how to fix that
how can we fix the bug with changing screens, i cant move window at all to any screen other than main one
@@resinate I haven’t had any issue but o would join the tsunamods discord and go to mod support, those guys are super more knowledgeable
Echo S9 on mine stopped working on Ice Cavern any way to fix this? Tried re-installing the mod nothing happened. When I tried a new game it works tho it stops working onwards once I reached Ice Cavern
@@KeithVonFabre damn sorry to hear that, to be honest I haven’t play through the demo since a while back. I used saves I had for this video, I’m not very familiar with how to troubleshoot this. I would recommend joining the tsunamods discord and go to “mod support”
final fatasy alway the best game in this fucktup worlds, i will live my life in all final fantasy now
Do you think they'll ever be able to use the moguri mod on FF7?
@@wicked-witch-of-the-west well the moguri mod is exclusive to ff9 I believe since it’s using the memoria engine. FF7 has Cosmos limit break that enables widescreen and used SYW field and battle textures.
Im playing the moguri mod right now but is not updated,if i update the mod do i need to restart the playthrough?
@@tomgecko7727 no that shouldn’t be an issue. I had to update mine when I did this video and I still had all my saves
Is Alternate Fantasy still compatible with this mod?
@@Deniscolli001 yes it is from what I’ve heard.
Is the voice acting mod complete for the whole game or is there another one besides Echo 9S? Last time I saw activity on their UA-cam channel was over 7 months ago which has me worried :(
@@SeraphEvenstar3000 yeah it’s still currently being worked on. The only thing out is the demo for it. It’s looking very promising
@@OtenP_ I will keep my fingers crossed that they finish it :). I'd even offer my raspy voice to help haha. Also it would be sweet if they do work on Legend of Dragoon as well since they teased it
@@SeraphEvenstar3000 Hoping to finish this year, but no promises.
If you want a nice in depth long answer, check the community post I just typed up on the channel
@@Tsunamods no rush at all! Greatness takes time. Thank you so much for the reply from the great Tsunamods themselves!
@@SeraphEvenstar3000 It's not that big of a deal lol. But thank you :D
Everyone says they like the Toon + Outline option but personally I think it clashes too much with the painting style of the backgrounds.
@@Syntherus definitely, I’ve seen everyone using it and like you said just doesn’t do well with the backgrounds. But at least we have options other than that which is awesome
I don't think we should be supporting modern Squeenix butchering of their franchises just because we want to support the no-longer-existing Squaresoft from 20 years ago.
@@s26me I mean you’re not wrong lol
What kind of take is this?
@@Sepharitea reasonable one.
This is an oversimplified perspective. At the end of the day the market has changed and they had to adjust. I’m sure we share the same issues with square Enix and certainly we can do whatever we want with our money. While I’m longing for a fresh new mainline game that is turn based I can still enjoy the newer games for story and the play styles aren’t terrible just not traditional jrpg.
Good Video, but PLEASE, NEVER EVER recommend Key sellers! They're ALL scamers!
Unless they tell you where they got the keys, they got them from frauded creditcards!
@@WhitedevilEE oh damn I didn’t know that, I bought a lot of older games on there with no problem in 5 years
it's cool but i reaaaaaly don't like anime like dubs in english, they really sound like deranged teenagers just about to shoot meth or something, i just can't. Nothing against voice actors because they are doing a great job, it's just me.
That’s understandable. But at least you’re polite about it, it’s crazy how many people comment on this fan voice acting project and are straight up aholes.
@@OtenP_ it might be because even when I was a teenager I hated dubbing in general and this is how I was introduced to all forms of media. Hell, I even searched for Ps2 undub isos way back in late 2000's.Ff12 International zodiac age and radiata stories undub were great with eng subs with og voices :D
@@Gluemn haha, it was a half joke. I Used to work in a small town about 5 years ago and I've picked up skateboarding, quite a lot of cynical, angsty and rebellious late teens with drinking and drug problems around the skatepark area
@@Gluemn I was adult at that time but thanks for the concern
@@Gluemn heh, who knows. People were quite friendly and other than this small subset of people (it's not like all of the people who skated of course we're druggies) I had fun. I actually preffered to live in a smaller community. If I ever manage to have a remote job I might move to a smaller town, preferably somewhere near the mountains :)
I play like a normal person on console, not the inferior pc
xD
@@sirducksworthythe3rd842 idk if this is for real or being trolled lol
@@OtenP_ If it's not trolling then yikes
I don't use mods, and I definitely wouldn't use one that changes the aspect from 4:3 like in this video
Interesting. May I ask why?
Thanks for the input on a video about mods 😂
Cry about it to someone who cares
There's true widescreen so it's not stretched
The moguri mod is awful.
Talentless weebs with no understanding of visuals.
AI can only smooth out a picture and remove noise not create detail where there is none.
All it manages to do is make the game look cheap.
The menus are awful, no filters or scanlines which is important in covering up the lack of detail.
Moguri mod just turns everything into looking like toys.
No point in getting worked up about it.
I mean that’s a pretty awful take but everyone has their opinion.
You sound like you know what you’re talking about, why not help out or make your own mods
@@OtenP_ I had a look at it once, but there's too much wrong with it. Simply getting it back to the quality of the original is months of works.
Things that the PC port lacks that the original had.
•Menus designed to be navigated with a controller not a finger on a touchscreen.
•Menus that were animated.
•Backgrounds that seamlessly transitioned into the 3d models, you couldn't tell where one started and the other ended.
•Scanlines which darkened the picture
•Matching font and good placement of speech bubbles.
In theory it would be possible to fix all of this. But the menus is the bottleneck, there's no way to animate the menus into view with code as far as I know. Maybe you could use a Mathf:Lerp function. But when you consider that not only the character menu but also the shop menu is screwed up.
So much work, and it's not like you can open it up in unity or unreal and do it over a weekend. What takes 2 days is going to take 6 months. And that's only to restore the quality of the original. To improve on it you would need to de-chibifi the characters. And hand paint over the backgrounds to create more detail.
People that know how to do it don't have time to do it, and people that have time to do it, don't know how to do it. Moguri mod puts lipstick on a pig, it doesn't fix anything. In fact it's even worse, because the backgrounds and 3d models in high resolution looks incredibly cheap.
@@DanIel-fl1vc Man, that is such a horrible take. Let me ask this. Have you put this request in on their Github page or are you just assuming they do not know how to do it? Calling a passion project like this awful? There has been so much development on this project where they took Square's bad code design and create something new which IS a lot of work. You have all these suggestions, but then say it's too much work to do? You throw a lot of terms around acting as if you know how to do this. Do you have projects you have worked on to back up what you say? I have actively followed all of their development and each developer is passionate on each topic. You also treat AI as if it generated it all by itself when every scene was re-hand drawn. Snouz particularly also has dev streams showing the manual work he does on this and the amount of time it takes for him to get it right. I am not trying to come off as an asshole, but you did not provide constructive criticism, nor did you provide any help to the project itself. If you are the same person who mentioned the menus a bit back ago, you were rude to the entire team and only threw terms around and never actually contributed to help.
@@WarpedEdge Actually just a few days ago on the discord channel. For some reason I'm suggested the same topic on youtube. I've done a lot of work inside unity, creating menus, programmed stuff and I'm very familiar with zbrush and 3d animation.
But actual game development is different from changing something that has already been compiled. I'm also familiar with painting and if they've hand painted over every background they're not James Gurney because it's not very impressive.
I'm not talking shit, just pointing out what has to be done for it to be as good as the original game, if it isn't as good. Then there's no point in modding it at all. From what I've seen changing the menus is what's difficult. Animating the windows in and out of frame.
But even changing the layout might be difficult, because menus are made up of more than just graphics. You got text elements, button elements and different pivot points that allows them to scale properly when resolution is changed. My take isn't bad, the take that this mod makes the remaster as good as the original is a bad take. As I said earlier, high res graphics for a game that has no detail doesn't work. It looks really cheap and if they hand painted every background they did a really bad job because the detail isn't there. And if the detail was there the 3d models would need as much detail.
But there's no point in arguing this, I can't convince otaku weebs that their preference for art is bad. Like asking a rapper to abandon their rhymes for mozart. You're living in a completely different world and use different frame of reference. Which explains why you fail to appreciate the guiding principle by which a game like this could be made better. But the remaster doesn't even live up to a playstation 1 game so, there's that.
@@DanIel-fl1vc I'm not some otaku weeb, but a loving fan of FFIX itself. I have seen the journey of FFIX modding since PSX. I enjoy the detail i've seen and sometimes i feel like people forget how bad it looks on ps1 compared to now. The remaster didn't do it justice, but their mods do definitely give it justice to adoring fans of the game. If you have worked on it before and its not something you want to work on, that is fine, but there are things you should consider when providing your feedback in the future to this or other games:
1. These people work on it passion 100% and do not even ask for donations like a bunch of others do
2. They are constantly improving things based on feedback
3. When you give feedback do not call someone's passion project "Awful" or "Bad" as that is just negative and is hurtful for no reason, but maybe explain the direction being taken is taking away from the original and here is why
4. If you know so much about these things but do not want to work on it yourself, try giving the proper nudges of tools to use or references to take from it.
Again not trying to be an ass back to you, but the way you worded your initial comment was just unnecessarily negative. Constructive criticism does not require negative jabs.
Man I Wish We Can Do this in duckstation in android.the chance of that happening is 0.00000000000000 percent how sad.