Wonderful video. I have an H1n at home and I will go ahead and get a couple lavs. I was looking into so many other costly options to add another mic, stand, and two input audio interface just so my hubby could join me on the recording. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks! I'd recommend the updated Zoom H1n recorder if you haven't purchased that bit yet. Not a huge difference with the old version, but may as well get the newer one (both will work for this technique though). Otherwise, you might want to consider picking up some furry wind covers for the lav mics if you'll be recording outside on your travels. Good luck with it!
What about interviewing subjects in public places, where mitigating background noise is the biggest concern. :) Like hacker-cons, comic-cons, outdoors, lots of background noise...?
In noisy environments, I like to use a handheld mic (preferably a shotgun mic), moving back and forth between interviewer and interviewee "reporter style" - being sure to stay close to each person's mouth. That should help voices stand out over background noise.
Thanks for the great video. I have 2 questions. 1. I'm planning to take interview series involving 2 people on a table preferably. My budget is low. Have planned to shoot the video through my iPhone+tripod and record the audio using zoom h1n. Do u think we can do it efficiently. 2. Is it necessary to get the lap mic n splitter or we can just keep the zoom h1n at the centre of the table (would it give same results) Much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Thank you for this super helpful video! I'm eager to start an interview-based podcast that will have in-person interviews, likely in public spaces (coffee shops, warehouses, retail shops, etc.), with interviewees that are generally not experienced in using, or being in front of, microphones. To help them, I'm considering using cardioid lav mics, but I'd like to use them in the set up you suggest. Do you have any recommendations/links for cardioid lav mics? Thanks again!
I'd actually consider a headset mic like this one: ua-cam.com/video/ifNG-q-sIDg/v-deo.html I don't have a cardiod lav recommendation - but Curtis' channel above should have some options (he's great)
Thanks for the great video. I have bought a Zoom H1N and wanted to know if this setup with the JK MIC-J lavalier microphones will work equally well on the H1N? Also, what kind of adapter should I use if I actually want to keep both microphones on the same audio track and not split them? Thanks.
I have the Zoom H1n and it works well with this setup - I've been meaning to update with a new video for the new recorder actually. If you want to keep the mics on the same channel then you can use a standard headphone splitter.
I am a Barber and I want to record interviews with my clients who are sitting in the Barber chair and later upload them for a Podcast. How can I use this system to record me as the Barber and another person in the chair wirelessly to this recording device and then be able to upload both channels of Audio from the interview to my PC with Audacity for editing before turning it into a Publishable Podcast Episode. Is this Set- Up Efficient and will it help me accomplish my goal for creating interviews with my Barber Clients?? Any advice or Equipment recommendations would be helpful. I'm trying to find an affordable way to record quality audio with 2 different people (Interview Style) for a Podcast -Wireless Options Preferred???
This recorder (the Zoom H1 or newer Zoom H1n) and the adapter I mention should work along with a wireless lav system - but you're likely looking at $200+ per mic for wireless lavs. Curtis Judd reviews a decent one here: ua-cam.com/video/q4cJMRxWIAY/v-deo.html That said, I'd consider avoiding wireless by using two wired lavs connected to small recorders. The Tascam DR-10L or Zoom F1-LP would do the trick. One mic for you, one for your client, press record on both, and sync the two files later in Audacity (clapping once both recorders are going will give you an easy sync point). I hope that helps! JP
You can use the new Rode Wireless Go to transmit to your recorder. $100 per wireless mic. You can also use two wired recorders, like the Zoom H1 or any number of other ones.
Hey, thanks for the info. Really helpful. I wanted to ask, does one mic picks up other person who is talking? Do the sound mix? Or mic picks up sound only form person who is closest to it? Or you have to fix it everything in editing? Thank you.
The sound quality won't be impacted by the wiring setup - the only thing is that the Zoom H1 doesn't have the strongest or quietest preamps - so depending on the mics you use, you may hear a lot of hiss. Basically, you need to use high output mics, and the powered lav mics I use in the example are great for this - you may not have the same luck with XLR mics, and the recorder can't provide the phantom power needed by condenser XLR mics.
Thanks for the video. Very portable setup indeed. I have a query. I want to use my Lav Mic (Boya BY-M1) along with my Zoom H1n and connect it to my Canon DSLR. How should I go about it? Thanks in advance for the reply.
Hi - you would connect the mic to the H1n line-in and then use a 3.5mm to 3.5mm stereo cable to connect the headphone jack on the H1n to the mic jack on your camera. If your camera doesn't have a mic jack then you'll have to record separately on the H1n and sync that audio with your camera's audio in post. I hope that helps!
Nice work! Appreciate for the useful infomation. Q: Can I get 3 channel audio by using Zoom h1 with Hosa ymm-261? I mean, is it possible that the stereo mic of Zoom h1 is running at the same time and get 3 individual tracks?
No, I believe you can do that with a Zoom H4n, but the H1 and H1n only record 1 channels at a time, either the internal mics, OR the stereo input jack, not both at once.
@@JPDavidson Thank you for your answer. That's very generous of you🙂 Even though I'm a little bit disappointed with Zoom h1n, fortunately now I'm able to get two channels by using the adapter which you told us. I ordered the hosa adapter. Can't wait~! THANX😆👍
Can you use this same exact setup with the other mics as well? After seeing this it seems unnecessary to be using a mixer and laptop during a recording.
The pre-amps on the Zoom H1 aren't very powerful, so you may have trouble plugging say, two dynamic SM58 mics in. The lavs rely on plugin power from the recorder, so they tend to have a hotter output. I regularly use a Zoom H5 or H6 with dynamic XLR mics though and it's great - you definitely don't need a computer or mixer for podcast recording!
So I bought two lav mics and I have a sony IDC-UX560 and when I use a splitter the audio seems like it can't be split into left and right. It seems like it records the file on both mics and makes it into one audio file. There is no audio strictly from the left mic, and vice versa, because it seems to be only one file. Do you what I may be doing wrong?
It could be a few things... Is the mic input jack on that recorder stereo? This trick won't work if that input is mono. I'd start by testing that by playing a stereo file into it and making sure it recorder the left and right channels separately (search "left right speaker test" on youtube for a good sample file). And are you using the splitter recommended in the video? A regular headphone splitter won't do the trick, it need to be an L/R split.
Is it hard to connect the mics to both people and not have wires tugging or the recorder falling? How long are the cords? How do you keep the mics hidden?
The cords for the mics are fairly long, so it isn't too bad. You can also get a headphone extender cable to extend the reach of the connection between the adapter and the recorder. I don't know a lot about keeping mics hidden since I don't do much video, but you can search youtube for tutorials on hiding lav mics.
I wonder if you are not concerned about any sound bleed if the talents are sitting across from each other? Wouldn’t each lavalier microphone pick up the sound from the other talent in addition to their own sound? Hosa YMM-261
Yeah, anytime you have 2 mics in the same room you'll get some bleed, but I find it isn't too bad with the Zoom's gain set around 40% (low-ish gain helps cut down on bleed, since the mic isn't as sensitive). Also having the talent sit around 5 feet apart helps.
Pop Up Podcasting so how would you handle that then if the sound shows up from the other person on the recording? I would like to use my Zoom H1n with 2 lavalier microphones while talking to the camera standing right next to my wife. So we would be pretty much shoulder to shoulder, outside on location.
That should work - you don't really need to worry about the bleed from one mic to the other as long as you keep the two audio tracks aligned in post. I'd give it a shot - it'll almost certainly be better than any camera mounted solution.
It'll be one file, but the audio from one mic will be recorded to the left channel, and the other mic will be on the right channel - you can then split the file in post. That splitter isn't like a regular headphone splitter that just replicates the same signal twice - it takes the two mono mic signals and combines them into a stereo signal, but maintains the separation by keeping one signal on the left and the other on the right.
I use Hindenburg Pro's "split stereo" function - but you should be able to do this in most editing apps. Even if there isn't a dedicated function for splitting stereo files into two mono files, you could always pan the file hard to the left, export as mono, and repeat for the right side. I hope that helps!
@@DoronBond It's not free, but you can get a free trial at hindenburg.com/ -- you can also split a stereo file using Audacity, which is free. Here's some info on how to do it in Audacity: manual.audacityteam.org/man/splitting_and_joining_stereo_tracks.html
Not with this recorder - it's a 2-track (stereo) recorder, so that limits it to 2 mics. Plus splitting the plug-in power 4 ways might not be enough to power the mics.
@@PopUpPodcasting Thanks for replying. I have the recorder and need to record 4 people. Is it possible? Is there a mic or set up I can use? Thanks for your help!
@@NewSkitsOnTheBlock You could do it as long as you use lav mics that have their own battery, then use the splitter I recommend, plus two regular headphone splitters - that should work to put mics 1 and 2 on one track, and mics 3 and 4 on another. I don't have the gear to try that out myself, but let me know if you do!
Well done, great video. Concise, clear and informative with zero fluff.
Thank you for your video. Super helpful! Can you also plug in 2 headphones using a splitter. So each person can hear the audio in real time?
Wonderful video. I have an H1n at home and I will go ahead and get a couple lavs. I was looking into so many other costly options to add another mic, stand, and two input audio interface just so my hubby could join me on the recording. Thanks for sharing!
That plot twist! 😱
hell yeah! I'm going to try this. Only with better lavalier mics!
--After about 3 hours bumbling around the web...THIS is Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
What a great simple video. Thank you.
Let make sure I got it. The HOSA keeps one of the mics as Left channel and the second one as Right channel?
Can I do the same but using a tascam dr-05x?
My Sennheiser ME 2 II's have TRS jacks. Not sure what the extra channel is for. Will this trick work on them?
Thank you so much for this helpful video. Is there a way I could connect more than 2 mics? I would like to have at least 3.
Yeah good video bro. Helped me heaps figure out what i need for my podcast on the road.
killer vid mate, right to the point and real helpful! looking at making that set up my travel set up! any other tips?
Thanks! I'd recommend the updated Zoom H1n recorder if you haven't purchased that bit yet. Not a huge difference with the old version, but may as well get the newer one (both will work for this technique though). Otherwise, you might want to consider picking up some furry wind covers for the lav mics if you'll be recording outside on your travels. Good luck with it!
What about interviewing subjects in public places, where mitigating background noise is the biggest concern. :) Like hacker-cons, comic-cons, outdoors, lots of background noise...?
In noisy environments, I like to use a handheld mic (preferably a shotgun mic), moving back and forth between interviewer and interviewee "reporter style" - being sure to stay close to each person's mouth. That should help voices stand out over background noise.
Thanks for the great video. I have 2 questions.
1. I'm planning to take interview series involving 2 people on a table preferably. My budget is low. Have planned to shoot the video through my iPhone+tripod and record the audio using zoom h1n. Do u think we can do it efficiently.
2. Is it necessary to get the lap mic n splitter or we can just keep the zoom h1n at the centre of the table (would it give same results)
Much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Thank you for this super helpful video! I'm eager to start an interview-based podcast that will have in-person interviews, likely in public spaces (coffee shops, warehouses, retail shops, etc.), with interviewees that are generally not experienced in using, or being in front of, microphones. To help them, I'm considering using cardioid lav mics, but I'd like to use them in the set up you suggest. Do you have any recommendations/links for cardioid lav mics? Thanks again!
I'd actually consider a headset mic like this one: ua-cam.com/video/ifNG-q-sIDg/v-deo.html
I don't have a cardiod lav recommendation - but Curtis' channel above should have some options (he's great)
@@JPDavidson Thank you so much for your reply! I'll check out Curtis's channel.
Thanks for the great video. I have bought a Zoom H1N and wanted to know if this setup with the JK MIC-J lavalier microphones will work equally well on the H1N? Also, what kind of adapter should I use if I actually want to keep both microphones on the same audio track and not split them? Thanks.
I have the Zoom H1n and it works well with this setup - I've been meaning to update with a new video for the new recorder actually. If you want to keep the mics on the same channel then you can use a standard headphone splitter.
I am a Barber and I want to record interviews with my clients who are sitting in the Barber chair and later upload them for a Podcast. How can I use this system to record me as the Barber and another person in the chair wirelessly to this recording device and then be able to upload both channels of Audio from the interview to my PC with Audacity for editing before turning it into a Publishable Podcast Episode. Is this Set- Up Efficient and will it help me accomplish my goal for creating interviews with my Barber Clients?? Any advice or Equipment recommendations would be helpful. I'm trying to find an affordable way to record quality audio with 2 different people (Interview Style) for a Podcast -Wireless Options Preferred???
This recorder (the Zoom H1 or newer Zoom H1n) and the adapter I mention should work along with a wireless lav system - but you're likely looking at $200+ per mic for wireless lavs. Curtis Judd reviews a decent one here: ua-cam.com/video/q4cJMRxWIAY/v-deo.html
That said, I'd consider avoiding wireless by using two wired lavs connected to small recorders. The Tascam DR-10L or Zoom F1-LP would do the trick. One mic for you, one for your client, press record on both, and sync the two files later in Audacity (clapping once both recorders are going will give you an easy sync point).
I hope that helps!
JP
You can use the new Rode Wireless Go to transmit to your recorder. $100 per wireless mic. You can also use two wired recorders, like the Zoom H1 or any number of other ones.
Can Hosa Ymm splitter record directly to my phone? Without any recorders?
Hey, thanks for the info. Really helpful. I wanted to ask, does one mic picks up other person who is talking? Do the sound mix? Or mic picks up sound only form person who is closest to it? Or you have to fix it everything in editing? Thank you.
Nice trick! Does it lose any sound quality? I quess I can have xlr mic and get xlr to 3.5 wire and then splitter..
The sound quality won't be impacted by the wiring setup - the only thing is that the Zoom H1 doesn't have the strongest or quietest preamps - so depending on the mics you use, you may hear a lot of hiss. Basically, you need to use high output mics, and the powered lav mics I use in the example are great for this - you may not have the same luck with XLR mics, and the recorder can't provide the phantom power needed by condenser XLR mics.
Thanks for the video. Very portable setup indeed.
I have a query. I want to use my Lav Mic (Boya BY-M1) along with my Zoom H1n and connect it to my Canon DSLR. How should I go about it? Thanks in advance for the reply.
Hi - you would connect the mic to the H1n line-in and then use a 3.5mm to 3.5mm stereo cable to connect the headphone jack on the H1n to the mic jack on your camera. If your camera doesn't have a mic jack then you'll have to record separately on the H1n and sync that audio with your camera's audio in post. I hope that helps!
@@PopUpPodcasting Thanks for the reply. I will try this and see if it works.
loved this video, thank you!
what happen if i connect 2 stereo mic (like sony lav) to Hosa Breakout Cable ? will it split one mic to one side?
thx. what i my 2 mic has stereo jack connector. will it work?
can I use the Hosa ymm with sony icdux650blk +
two of Sony ECMCS3 Clip Omnidir Stereo Mic ??? thx a lot
Nice work! Appreciate for the useful infomation.
Q: Can I get 3 channel audio by using Zoom h1 with Hosa ymm-261?
I mean, is it possible that the stereo mic of Zoom h1 is running at the same time and get 3 individual tracks?
No, I believe you can do that with a Zoom H4n, but the H1 and H1n only record 1 channels at a time, either the internal mics, OR the stereo input jack, not both at once.
@@JPDavidson Thank you for your answer. That's very generous of you🙂 Even though I'm a little bit disappointed with Zoom h1n, fortunately now I'm able to get two channels by using the adapter which you told us. I ordered the hosa adapter. Can't wait~! THANX😆👍
I read somewhere that 2 boya by m1 wont work with this adapter. Is it true
Sorry, I'm not sure, and don't have that mic to test
I tried today. It works perfectly
i have boya too. do you record directly to phone or digital recorder?
Agung W I record to zoom h1 and it'sperfect
Can you use this same exact setup with the other mics as well? After seeing this it seems unnecessary to be using a mixer and laptop during a recording.
The pre-amps on the Zoom H1 aren't very powerful, so you may have trouble plugging say, two dynamic SM58 mics in. The lavs rely on plugin power from the recorder, so they tend to have a hotter output. I regularly use a Zoom H5 or H6 with dynamic XLR mics though and it's great - you definitely don't need a computer or mixer for podcast recording!
Why bother with the two lav mics? Wouldn't it be simpler to just use the Zoom as a handheld mic and pass it back and forth during an interview?
So I bought two lav mics and I have a sony IDC-UX560 and when I use a splitter the audio seems like it can't be split into left and right. It seems like it records the file on both mics and makes it into one audio file. There is no audio strictly from the left mic, and vice versa, because it seems to be only one file. Do you what I may be doing wrong?
It could be a few things... Is the mic input jack on that recorder stereo? This trick won't work if that input is mono. I'd start by testing that by playing a stereo file into it and making sure it recorder the left and right channels separately (search "left right speaker test" on youtube for a good sample file). And are you using the splitter recommended in the video? A regular headphone splitter won't do the trick, it need to be an L/R split.
Pop Up Podcasting Thank you for the reply. My reply to yours is a bit late.
Yes. The problem was the split cable itself. Thank you for the video!
How do I export as 2 separate files then turn ea file as stereo
hi, how to integrate it to videdo cam ? pls info asap. thx
Solid review!
Is it hard to connect the mics to both people and not have wires tugging or the recorder falling? How long are the cords? How do you keep the mics hidden?
The cords for the mics are fairly long, so it isn't too bad. You can also get a headphone extender cable to extend the reach of the connection between the adapter and the recorder. I don't know a lot about keeping mics hidden since I don't do much video, but you can search youtube for tutorials on hiding lav mics.
Nice video
I wonder if you are not concerned about any sound bleed if the talents are sitting across from each other? Wouldn’t each lavalier microphone pick up the sound from the other talent in addition to their own sound? Hosa YMM-261
Yeah, anytime you have 2 mics in the same room you'll get some bleed, but I find it isn't too bad with the Zoom's gain set around 40% (low-ish gain helps cut down on bleed, since the mic isn't as sensitive). Also having the talent sit around 5 feet apart helps.
Pop Up Podcasting so how would you handle that then if the sound shows up from the other person on the recording? I would like to use my Zoom H1n with 2 lavalier microphones while talking to the camera standing right next to my wife. So we would be pretty much shoulder to shoulder, outside on location.
That should work - you don't really need to worry about the bleed from one mic to the other as long as you keep the two audio tracks aligned in post. I'd give it a shot - it'll almost certainly be better than any camera mounted solution.
Pop Up Podcasting with the splitter, isn’t there only one audio track then?
It'll be one file, but the audio from one mic will be recorded to the left channel, and the other mic will be on the right channel - you can then split the file in post. That splitter isn't like a regular headphone splitter that just replicates the same signal twice - it takes the two mono mic signals and combines them into a stereo signal, but maintains the separation by keeping one signal on the left and the other on the right.
Genius! Thank you
Are you using Wavelab to split the audio files?
I use Hindenburg Pro's "split stereo" function - but you should be able to do this in most editing apps. Even if there isn't a dedicated function for splitting stereo files into two mono files, you could always pan the file hard to the left, export as mono, and repeat for the right side. I hope that helps!
Pop Up Podcasting Thanks. Is that free software? Can you post the link to where I can download it?
@@DoronBond It's not free, but you can get a free trial at hindenburg.com/ -- you can also split a stereo file using Audacity, which is free. Here's some info on how to do it in Audacity: manual.audacityteam.org/man/splitting_and_joining_stereo_tracks.html
Can you split to 4 mics?
Not with this recorder - it's a 2-track (stereo) recorder, so that limits it to 2 mics. Plus splitting the plug-in power 4 ways might not be enough to power the mics.
@@PopUpPodcasting Thanks for replying. I have the recorder and need to record 4 people. Is it possible? Is there a mic or set up I can use? Thanks for your help!
@@NewSkitsOnTheBlock You could do it as long as you use lav mics that have their own battery, then use the splitter I recommend, plus two regular headphone splitters - that should work to put mics 1 and 2 on one track, and mics 3 and 4 on another. I don't have the gear to try that out myself, but let me know if you do!
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