I just started using the SLXD35 system for main wireless audio out of my QSCtouchmix. This was super helpful and gave me peace of mind with trying out a complete wireless audio setup. I Successfully ran wireless without any hiccups or audio dropouts this past weekend using two SLXD35 systems and one SLXD24 handheld Mic. Thank you, Scott!
never seen a more comprehensive video tutorial about anything on the internet ever in my life lol #deadass thats what the kids say right? oh god i'm a dad
Great video!!! Have learned alot stumbling upon your channel. I have since subscribed as your content has been very beneficial for me as a DJ. I keep noticing Scott Vox on your Shure display. Who is that?
@ScottUhlMusic The truth is that Scott, we've been having a lot of interference issues in our church sound system, and I've called several people to check it and bring about a solution. Now I see that I have to put the mics all in a single group and appoint channels to each one.
DJ here too. This is a great mic if you’re doing wedding ceremonies and lots of outdoor events, but if you’re mainly doing parties and clubs, you can buy 4 of the Phenyx Pro PTU-1U for the same price, and it will work great. In my opinion, I rather have the redundancy and ability to provide more mics that are still very reliable than to have one over qualified mic; but it’s all depending on the application. Scott’s got a great video on the PTU-1U and 2U, you should consider them before making a purchase.
That was great, thanks! Is there a video that covers bands that are no longer available in the US? Almost bought some gear and was warned it wasnt usable
@@ScottUhlMusic sorry Scott one question Ive got 2x Sennheiser G4 EW100s mounted in my rack unit. I was wondering if you knew what the base plate was for and should I be using it lol?
Thanks for all your help. If setting different units in my rack, should I choose a different groups? I use all the same group for my two senheisser G4s. I have a 2.4 ghz dmx transmitter, and a UHF alto stealth transmitter in my rack.
Dude i learned so much and it made me laugh a few times too . Great job! I'm a DJ and for some weddings, there is usually a band too that plays as well with all their wireless mics and who knows what else. I assume that I would just let them set up, sound check, and then I myself will do a quick scan since the only wireless thing Im using is just my mic?
Well... it's been 2 weeks and I've messaged them 3 times now. That wireless is yours if you want it! Reach out to me by my website (link in the description) :)
Great content, thanks. I understand you have both senheiser and shure system. What do you prefer for IEM ? Should I stay on the same band for a mic and IEM ?
Thanks! And you definitely can mix and match. My main wireless for mics and guitar is the slxd by Shure, my portable IEM is by sennheiser, and the main IEM system I use and recommend is actually by audio technica: ua-cam.com/video/hqKuBwwNJTE/v-deo.htmlsi=8-0Q3_njsGa4M0aV
Excellent video. Thank-you! Shure and Sennheiser should hire you to make their videos! My wife's office have two Sennheiser EK 100G3 and SK 100 G3's. They now seem a lot less complex after watching your video! With two presenters at an event, we used a splitter cable to bring the two receiver's signal into a single input on a JBL BT speaker (it worked in a pinch). Looking to get a "real" PA speaker with multiple proper mic / line inputs. Is it me, or do the Sennheiser 100 G3 gobble up AA batteries for other users?
Thanks! I appreciate that, and glad to help! And I always use rechargeable batteries for that reason, and remember to charge them after every show. They survive a good amount of time, but I definitely use rechargeable personally 👍
Thanks for posting this. I was asked to help sort out wireless issues at the local theater. They get a lot of static during the performances far too frequently. I have very little experience with wireless systems so this helped a lot. Will now go examine how they have their channels set up. Is there a general rule for how far the receiver should be from the transmitters? they have up to 8 mics going at a time. Sound will be clean during a mic check and then crackle on one or more mics during performance. The Receiver is placed up in the balcony near the sound booth. Probably about 100 feet away or a little more. Using a Creative Audio Technology system.
Distance depends on the range of the wireless system. If the problem is distance, using an antenna combiner will help with a directional antenna. I did that passively in this video: ua-cam.com/video/f3gDWJc9phA/v-deo.html but with 8 you’ll need an active antenna combiner. I would also watch my video on 5 common mistakes on using wireless. They likely have “antenna farms” going on is my guess: ua-cam.com/video/Xgw96rY4TAc/v-deo.html
Thank you so much for your reply. Will watch your videos for sure. I reached out to the Creative Audio and they just got back to me as well suggesting directional Antennas and the combiner. Ironically the guy that was helping them at the theater took the directional antennas off and put the omnis on. I'm pretty sure they do not have a combiner but I'm just trying to learn about this stuff so I can get their issues sorted out. Will be heading there later today and rolling up my sleeves to see what I can do. Thanks again.
Very good tutorial Scott, I was in the mistake of thinking, that putting each body pack in different banks, would be the best for been isolated from one to other, but I was wrong ,, thank for all you help
Sir this information was so helpful. Since I mainly deal with the video side of production audio is typical not my thing. However I bought 4 Phenyx Pro True Diversity Wireless Microphone System PTU-1U units, which I could not get to work probably (lot of drop outs or no signal connection when I'm more than 10 feet away). I'm so tempted to send them back, however I try to test them again with this information that you provide. Hopefully I get them working.
We're using an older Shure wireless system with 2 handheld Shure mics and 2 wireless cheek nice from a company in Florida. After about 7-10 years one of our shell mics started encounter a lot of static and cutting in and out. We've had the mic, belt pack and receiver checked but none can detect a problem so my sound partners and I were thinking of doing the group and channel scan. Just out of curiosity do mics, belt packs or receivers have a shelf life for when they should be replaced? Thanks your video was full of good info.
Originally the sound tech that set up our system did the group and channel scans but now when we look at them one is on Group #1 channel #2 and the other is on Group #2 channel #3 so we're going to check on that. That's the cheek mics. We may week have to redo all 4 mics.
Fortunately there are a couple of us to bounce around ideas and work together. I was also told something interesting by the shops who checked on our equipment. They said the cell phones and their networks can affect wireless systems. Do you know anything about that?
Great videos Scott! Just wondering how to choose a band/range such as Sennheiser A Range (548-572MHz) vs Shure H11 (572-596Mhz). Is a higher number MHz relate to being used less commonly or something entirely different? 🤷♂️
Hey Scott, great video! My band has 2 Sennheiser XSW IEMS A-Band and looking to add 2 more. Should we stick with the same Band (476-500MHz) or get their Band B variant (572-596MHz)? Im guessing the pros/cons would be less chance for interference but with everyones body-pack is limited to their band?
Shure ULXD has a 4 in one unit: ua-cam.com/video/gWotd6qNn48/v-deo.htmlsi=TguJchgZviOvb5mo Slxd has a dual unit and you could get 2 of those: ua-cam.com/video/_8rDMqAAe1A/v-deo.htmlsi=k-oUxYI5t39xDh-Q Those are high end wireless if your budget affords it. If you need to save money and understand how cheaper wireless works, you can get this one which is quite good for the price: ua-cam.com/video/c2nQhVPhWwU/v-deo.htmlsi=_5j74tPIZ-86ekFc
Hi Scott. I've been using the Alesis guitar link wireless with my bass rig for about 4-5 years now. It's been absolutely bullet proof in small and mid size venues in despite being in 2.4ghz. No low end signal loss at all, which something I've seen other bassist complain about with cheap systems.
Awesome! Yeah man, that’s how I was with my Shure PGX (old one, not the new one). I used it for 5 years with no problems and I paid $200 for it used. If you find one of those, it’s absolutely worth it 🤘
Just to give a little perspective on the separation width between frequencies, if you think of the FM band, the channels are spaced out by 0.2MHz with each channel falling on an odd number on the tenth place. Since the 500MHz band works at a rate 5 times of the FM radio band, the equivalent would be 1/5 of 0.2MHz or 0.04MHz. Of course in application you’re liable to get interference if you’re within 0.075MHz of a frequency, and it’s best to stay at least 0.2MHz away between frequencies.
Lol maybe I got this backwards, it could be that the analogous is 5x of 0.2MHz which would space each channel out by 1MHz, which would definitely be a safe distance to transmit in.
The analog v digital is actually an important part of it actually, and why I prefer the SLXD personally. Both are fantastic systems, but I’ve gone with the slxd personally
Hi and thank you in advance. I'm new to wireless. I'm in the process of exploring IEM's for everyone. Do all transmitters need to be of the same band? Is that recommended or can I buy transmitter/receiver set Band A and another set Band B? (Sennheiser XSW IEM) to be exact. All will be running into the Behringer X32 rack.
Your transmitter and receiver need to be in the same band per unit. So your transmitter needs to be in A band if you receiver is in A band. However, if you have multiple wireless, you can mix and match bands. However, in that case, groups won’t matter with different Bands. Group 1 in A band will be different than Group 1 in B band
It’s definitely too expensive for being on 2.4ghz and it requires power. I don’t recommend it. I use a ton of Line 6 stuff, but that one was a miss from them. If you want to get a cheap one I would try here: ua-cam.com/video/DSqdd--06hQ/v-deo.html
The cheap stuff often doesn’t have scanning features. I recommend getting one that does scan. Otherwise, just test it at soundcheck and then if you are getting interference, try another channel
Great Topic. Your discussion was very helpful. My church is using the Shure BLX4R system. The lavalier mics work on band H10 and the handhelds mics operate on band H9. Based on your discussion I believe that I do not have to be concerned if the lavalier mics are operating in groun A and the handheld mics are operating in group A because group A in the H9 and H10 bands operate in different frequency ranges with significant distance between the frequencies. Is this correct?
Yup, you most likely will be fine. Just make sure the antennas are not all just stacked on top of each other in a rack. That’s a good way to get interference. But frequency wise you should be good 👍 If you need to combine/distribute the antennas, I did a video about that here: ua-cam.com/video/fV1SJzLHwPI/v-deo.html
Awesome video! Very informative! I have a question. I have an older wireless microphone system that the frequency is no longer available for us to use. Should I just trash it? What should one do at this point? It still works great.
657-663 MHz are technically unlicensed, but you’re still in violation if you use devices that are capable of transmitting outside these frequencies. That being said, I don’t know how they are checking for this and what the punishment is. You definitely want to stay off the 700s because those are public safety frequencies in the US, and you’re more likely to get busted (not to mention getting interference). Best thing you can probably do is sell them on eBay. People collect them for cheap and export them to a secondary market other countries.
Thank you for this video it really helped me to understand the idea!, although I've never faced any issue with my wireless system, I own shure glxd14 could you tell me please what do you think in it? Thanks again..
The GLX is a good system, but it’s way too expensive for being on 2.4ghz. If you have had it work for you, that’s the important part! But I would watch this video to understand 2.4 as well as my thoughts on the GLXD: ua-cam.com/video/RCrFKKr8WUA/v-deo.html
If you wanted to use 3 wireless devices would it be better have them all in the same band (G58 for example) or have all 3 using different bands (G58, H55, J52)?
Hi, still confuse about how many transmitters you point to your Shure SLXD24 for example. I see that ou configured your Shure SLXD24 with 3 wireless channels. Does it mean that I can add/use 3 microphones on that receiver (Shure SLXD24)?
You can use 1 wireless transmitter and 1 wireless receiver at once. You can of course have 3 wireless mics set to the same frequency, and turn off the others when you are not using them and switch between the 3 mics, but you cannot have them on at the same time
@@ScottUhlMusic got it. so in your example you setup 3 wireless configuration on your Shure SLXD24, at 14:44. You mean you cannot turn on those 3 systems all together right? its just there for fast switching?
@@roggss7566 those are different frequencies. One transmitter and one receiver each should be set to those frequencies. So 3 transmitter and 3 receivers total
Ah so you have 3 SLXD24? Sorry for being dumb on this thing. Just wanted to make sure before buying things. I wanted to have 4 wireless setup that will run all at once.
I’m finding your videos super helpful! So to make sure I’m understanding, are groups universal across a particular brand’s range? So if I get two sennheiser H55 systems, then group 1 is the same set of channel frequencies? But if I use a shure system for one thing and sennheiser for another I just need to make sure I’m using quite separated channels between the two, right (like get systems of two totally different ranges)?
They groups are per band per brand as well. So if you mix and match Shure and sennheiser, I do not believe they would have the same channels in group 1. Although you could always look at the channels and compare them 👍
Question - I’ve just bought the SLX-24 with the frequency range of 606MHz - 650MHz. I’m in the UK and I’ve read that this frequency band is now illegal! I’m a little bit clueless with this. I think it’s the J52 model. Am I correct in thinking this? Also, if it’s ok, do I need a license for this microphone?
Yeah you are not technically allowed to use that frequency anymore unfortunately. You’ll have to get another one. A lot of people sell them used for that reason
Hello! New subscriber here. I'm a singer/musician, and in the last three years, I've also become a sound guy. I want to get a wireless system, currently looking at the Senn. EW D. Question. When your device scans the groups to see how many channels are available, wouldn't it only pick up *current* interference? For example, our school has a Shure BLX, and if I were using my equipment (say that I got the senn. EW,) the scan wouldn't catch the BLX's frequency unless the BLX transmitter was turned on and transmitting signal, right? I suppose I can just check BLX's channel and avoid that frequency. This is all new to me, but I'm concerned about devices that transmit wireless signals but are not turned on and transmit at the time of scanning but begin transmitting when an audience shows up. I don't know if that makes sense or if it's not something that really becomes a problem. I thought I'd ask.
Thanks for the sub! Correct, there is no way for a wireless scan to be able to determine if someone else will turn on a channel sometime in the future. Just the current environment, and that’s why frequency coordination is important for higher end events
Hi Scott. I'm looking for wireless equipment for my church and I'm thinking about getting 4 sets of Anleon S3 IEMs (With four Transmitters so that each bodypack has an individual mix), and the Phenyx Pro PTU-7000-2H2B alongside another Phenyx Pro PTU-71B. So I will be using 6 Phenyx Pro wireless systems (4 transmitting into 1 receiver while the other 2 are transmitting into the other), and 4 Anleon IEMs into four separate transmitters. Here is the frequency range for each system. Phenyx Pro PTU-7000/71B - 520-603 MHz Anleon S3 - 518-554MHz Is this doable or will I likely be getting interference? If it is doable, do you have any tips that was not mentioned in the video? I was also considering the PTM-10 IEM system rather than the anleon since they use 900MHz. What do you think?
I do think you will be using too much budget friendly wireless. That’s the number one issue I see people doing with wireless (myself included when I got obsessed with wireless). I go over that in this video: Choosing the Right WIRELESS SYSTEM - A Comprehensive Guide ua-cam.com/video/Xi2JcMomjQ0/v-deo.html I do prefer the PTM 10 IEM system (like I mention in that video) and using this trick you can get just 2 of them with 4 body packs: ua-cam.com/video/A7Drmjn6vsQ/v-deo.htmlsi=D3VFIVXvPpuCerrT Hope that helps 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic Thank you so much! I assumed that because of how wide the MHz tuning bandwidth is for the PTU-7000 with 83MHz (520-603MHZ) and the PTM with 20MHz (905-925 MHz) and also that they are on totally different frequencies, wouldn't that mean that there would be no way that those two system can interfere with one another? You said in the video that you linked in this comment that you recommend using up to 4-6 budget-friendly wireless systems, but in my situation, I'd be using 6 systems from the 520-603MHz range while I am using 4 wireless IEMs in the 900-925MHZ range. Therefore I have the suggested amount of wireless systems on each bandwidth. Am I making sense or does it not work like that?
That’s still a total of 10 budget friendly wireless. It CAN work, wireless isn’t an exact science. But you can also run into problems with that much budget wireless. Spacing them out on the stage can help, and using an antenna distro system and/or combiner can also help. To me, that’s too much budget friendly wireless. But it might work for you
@@ScottUhlMusic Gotchu thank you! So pretty much what you're saying is that it's risky and I'll most likely run into some problems but it could potentially work?
That's not groups/channels/etc. Likely you need to make sure your gain is not set too high. Check mic/line level and make sure you aren't sending LINE level into something expecting MIC level
“Look at this graph” got me
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@@ScottUhlMusicdude, same hear. My wife was in the bedroom and heard me just start showing. Amazing work, my friend hahahaha
Great tip on using the group with the most frequencies. I was not aware of that.
🤘 thanks for watching and commenting, I appreciate it 🤘
As I have had a billion questions delving into this NEW tech (to me) your videos have been a huge help in understanding this. Thanks!
Glad to hear that!
This is so helpful. I'm setting up a broadcast system for a local government meeting. This helps.
Glad to help!
Thank you, I think that was my problem with our new Shure system. I appreciate it.
Glad I could help!
I just started using the SLXD35 system for main wireless audio out of my QSCtouchmix. This was super helpful and gave me peace of mind with trying out a complete wireless audio setup. I Successfully ran wireless without any hiccups or audio dropouts this past weekend using two SLXD35 systems and one SLXD24 handheld Mic. Thank you, Scott!
One of the best gear channels ever. Thank you.
@@Thechacha380 thank you! 😊
Thank you so much for this tutorial, I was breaking my head on my slxd system❤❤❤
Glad it helped!
Thank you my friend. Very informative.
Fantastic! I think I’m getting it all together thanks to you. I’ll be in the trial and error phase before you know it.
Thanks Scott!
Glad to help!
never seen a more comprehensive video tutorial about anything on the internet ever in my life lol #deadass thats what the kids say right? oh god i'm a dad
😂😂😂 thank you!
Thanks!
Great video!!! Have learned alot stumbling upon your channel. I have since subscribed as your content has been very beneficial for me as a DJ. I keep noticing Scott Vox on your Shure display. Who is that?
Thanks for the sub! And I just named it “Scott VOX” because it’s my vocal channel 👍
You're simply a fantastic teacher, I understand everything now 😊
Thank you! 😃
@ScottUhlMusic The truth is that Scott, we've been having a lot of interference issues in our church sound system, and I've called several people to check it and bring about a solution. Now I see that I have to put the mics all in a single group and appoint channels to each one.
Thank you for this explanation - super helpful!!
Extremely helpful. Thank you!
Replay!!! Great refresher in bands, groups, and channels. Thank You Scott!!
Thank you. I’m a mobile DJ and I was looking for a solid go to mic. Appreciate your videos.
Glad to help!
DJ here too. This is a great mic if you’re doing wedding ceremonies and lots of outdoor events, but if you’re mainly doing parties and clubs, you can buy 4 of the Phenyx Pro PTU-1U for the same price, and it will work great. In my opinion, I rather have the redundancy and ability to provide more mics that are still very reliable than to have one over qualified mic; but it’s all depending on the application. Scott’s got a great video on the PTU-1U and 2U, you should consider them before making a purchase.
Thanks man! Yeah the PTU is an amazing system for sure! Highly recommended: ua-cam.com/video/nLpo5vqhW5c/v-deo.html
This is absolutely amazing! Thank you for this information!
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome explanation.
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
@@ScottUhlMusic Dude! Your videos are simply awesome. You always give us tons of tips.
Thanks again for sharing!
#peace
Thank you for your quick response. I am watching the Video know.
perfect. this really helped me understand my new shure mic. Thank you.
Glad it helped!
That was great, thanks! Is there a video that covers bands that are no longer available in the US? Almost bought some gear and was warned it wasnt usable
Thanks! And 470-608Mhz is current legal in the USA. Along with 652-663Mhz, 902-928Mhz. And of course 2.4Ghz and 5.8Ghz. Those are the most common
Thank you sir!
Not all hero’s wear capes!
Haha glad to help!
Thank you for this video man it helped my organize my set up and better understand what I was buying
Glad to help!
@@ScottUhlMusic sorry Scott one question Ive got 2x Sennheiser G4 EW100s mounted in my rack unit. I was wondering if you knew what the base plate was for and should I be using it lol?
You can. It just makes them more sturdy when they are connected.
@@ScottUhlMusic Hi Scott quick question. Can I use just the one antenna if needed for my sennheiser reciever or does it require both?
You should use both 👍
Thanks for all your help. If setting different units in my rack, should I choose a different groups? I use all the same group for my two senheisser G4s. I have a 2.4 ghz dmx transmitter, and a UHF alto stealth transmitter in my rack.
Brilliant, thank you!
Dude i learned so much and it made me laugh a few times too . Great job! I'm a DJ and for some weddings, there is usually a band too that plays as well with all their wireless mics and who knows what else. I assume that I would just let them set up, sound check, and then I myself will do a quick scan since the only wireless thing Im using is just my mic?
Yup, that’s a good way to do it!
Oooooof, that hurts. Haha
Congratulations Jens and Thanks Scott for everything you do on this channel :)
Hahaha well I haven’t gotten a response yet! So hopefully soon 😅
@@ScottUhlMusic Awh man, I hope he see's it! That'd be brutal to miss out on 😂 If he doesn't though, I will happily give it a good home haha
Well... it's been 2 weeks and I've messaged them 3 times now. That wireless is yours if you want it! Reach out to me by my website (link in the description) :)
Awesome brother! I'll be right on it :)
Easy peezy. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Very helpful! I subcribed too!😇👍
Thanks!
Thank you for your help.
Fantastic video my friend!!! Thank you!!!
Thanks!
This video was so helpful. Thank you so much! I’m new to all this tech haha
Glad it was helpful!
Great content, thanks.
I understand you have both senheiser and shure system. What do you prefer for IEM ? Should I stay on the same band for a mic and IEM ?
Thanks! And you definitely can mix and match. My main wireless for mics and guitar is the slxd by Shure, my portable IEM is by sennheiser, and the main IEM system I use and recommend is actually by audio technica: ua-cam.com/video/hqKuBwwNJTE/v-deo.htmlsi=8-0Q3_njsGa4M0aV
Excellent video. Thank-you! Shure and Sennheiser should hire you to make their videos! My wife's office have two Sennheiser EK 100G3 and SK 100 G3's. They now seem a lot less complex after watching your video! With two presenters at an event, we used a splitter cable to bring the two receiver's signal into a single input on a JBL BT speaker (it worked in a pinch). Looking to get a "real" PA speaker with multiple proper mic / line inputs. Is it me, or do the Sennheiser 100 G3 gobble up AA batteries for other users?
Thanks! I appreciate that, and glad to help! And I always use rechargeable batteries for that reason, and remember to charge them after every show. They survive a good amount of time, but I definitely use rechargeable personally 👍
You described it like a pro
Thanks!
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Thank you Sensei
Can you make a video setting up microphones and monitor speakers with mixer. Or did I miss that video
I don’t really have a video on that on my channel. Mostly for digital mixers
Thanks, Scott !
Thanks for posting this. I was asked to help sort out wireless issues at the local theater. They get a lot of static during the performances far too frequently. I have very little experience with wireless systems so this helped a lot. Will now go examine how they have their channels set up. Is there a general rule for how far the receiver should be from the transmitters? they have up to 8 mics going at a time. Sound will be clean during a mic check and then crackle on one or more mics during performance. The Receiver is placed up in the balcony near the sound booth. Probably about 100 feet away or a little more. Using a Creative Audio Technology system.
Distance depends on the range of the wireless system. If the problem is distance, using an antenna combiner will help with a directional antenna. I did that passively in this video: ua-cam.com/video/f3gDWJc9phA/v-deo.html but with 8 you’ll need an active antenna combiner.
I would also watch my video on 5 common mistakes on using wireless. They likely have “antenna farms” going on is my guess: ua-cam.com/video/Xgw96rY4TAc/v-deo.html
Thank you so much for your reply. Will watch your videos for sure. I reached out to the Creative Audio and they just got back to me as well suggesting directional Antennas and the combiner. Ironically the guy that was helping them at the theater took the directional antennas off and put the omnis on. I'm pretty sure they do not have a combiner but I'm just trying to learn about this stuff so I can get their issues sorted out. Will be heading there later today and rolling up my sleeves to see what I can do. Thanks again.
Great video. Thanks Scott! 👍
Thanks!
Very good tutorial Scott, I was in the mistake of thinking, that putting each body pack in different banks, would be the best for been isolated from one to other, but I was wrong ,, thank for all you help
Yup, I did that forever when I first started using wireless!
now i know why my mic dropped sometimes its because i didnt change the group only the channels thank you
Dude... Super good comprehensive explanation. Well done.
Thanks Skinny! 🤘
Sir this information was so helpful. Since I mainly deal with the video side of production audio is typical not my thing. However I bought 4 Phenyx Pro True Diversity Wireless Microphone System PTU-1U units, which I could not get to work probably (lot of drop outs or no signal connection when I'm more than 10 feet away). I'm so tempted to send them back, however I try to test them again with this information that you provide. Hopefully I get them working.
Nicely done Scott!
Thanks Bill!
We're using an older Shure wireless system with 2 handheld Shure mics and 2 wireless cheek nice from a company in Florida.
After about 7-10 years one of our shell mics started encounter a lot of static and cutting in and out. We've had the mic, belt pack and receiver checked but none can detect a problem so my sound partners and I were thinking of doing the group and channel scan.
Just out of curiosity do mics, belt packs or receivers have a shelf life for when they should be replaced?
Thanks your video was full of good info.
If you have not tried to scan, you absolutely should 👍
Originally the sound tech that set up our system did the group and channel scans but now when we look at them one is on Group #1 channel #2 and the other is on Group #2 channel #3 so we're going to check on that. That's the cheek mics. We may week have to redo all 4 mics.
Do not be intimidated by scanning. It is very simple, and is important if you use wireless gear 👍
Fortunately there are a couple of us to bounce around ideas and work together. I was also told something interesting by the shops who checked on our equipment. They said the cell phones and their networks can affect wireless systems. Do you know anything about that?
@@stevendirks6239 It can for sure, but a scan should avoid those channels.
Thank you
Great videos Scott! Just wondering how to choose a band/range such as Sennheiser A Range (548-572MHz) vs Shure H11 (572-596Mhz). Is a higher number MHz relate to being used less commonly or something entirely different? 🤷♂️
It depends on your region really. But ultimately it’s not a huge deal. Within 470-600mhz is usually good for USA
Good job. Thank you.
Hey Scott, great video! My band has 2 Sennheiser XSW IEMS A-Band and looking to add 2 more.
Should we stick with the same Band (476-500MHz) or get their Band B variant (572-596MHz)?
Im guessing the pros/cons would be less chance for interference but with everyones body-pack is limited to their band?
With 4 wireless, it’s not a huge deal to be honest either way. Probably do a different band would be my guess, but again, it’s not a huge deal tbh 🤘
Gracias desde México
Thank You. So much
How would setup 4 wireless microphones for a panel discussion? Would I need four separate units or is there an all in one device?
Shure ULXD has a 4 in one unit: ua-cam.com/video/gWotd6qNn48/v-deo.htmlsi=TguJchgZviOvb5mo
Slxd has a dual unit and you could get 2 of those: ua-cam.com/video/_8rDMqAAe1A/v-deo.htmlsi=k-oUxYI5t39xDh-Q
Those are high end wireless if your budget affords it.
If you need to save money and understand how cheaper wireless works, you can get this one which is quite good for the price: ua-cam.com/video/c2nQhVPhWwU/v-deo.htmlsi=_5j74tPIZ-86ekFc
Hi Scott. I've been using the Alesis guitar link wireless with my bass rig for about 4-5 years now. It's been absolutely bullet proof in small and mid size venues in despite being in 2.4ghz. No low end signal loss at all, which something I've seen other bassist complain about with cheap systems.
Awesome! Yeah man, that’s how I was with my Shure PGX (old one, not the new one). I used it for 5 years with no problems and I paid $200 for it used. If you find one of those, it’s absolutely worth it 🤘
Just to give a little perspective on the separation width between frequencies, if you think of the FM band, the channels are spaced out by 0.2MHz with each channel falling on an odd number on the tenth place. Since the 500MHz band works at a rate 5 times of the FM radio band, the equivalent would be 1/5 of 0.2MHz or 0.04MHz. Of course in application you’re liable to get interference if you’re within 0.075MHz of a frequency, and it’s best to stay at least 0.2MHz away between frequencies.
Lol maybe I got this backwards, it could be that the analogous is 5x of 0.2MHz which would space each channel out by 1MHz, which would definitely be a safe distance to transmit in.
Interesting, that’s a great comment and analysis. Thanks! And good to know
Thanx!
This cleared up a whole lot of crap for me! Thank you! 🙏🏾
Glad it helped!
Hey, between the ew500 g4 and the slxd , which one is better? Not talking about digital vs analog but sound clarity in dynamic capsules and distance
The analog v digital is actually an important part of it actually, and why I prefer the SLXD personally. Both are fantastic systems, but I’ve gone with the slxd personally
Hi and thank you in advance. I'm new to wireless. I'm in the process of exploring IEM's for everyone. Do all transmitters need to be of the same band? Is that recommended or can I buy transmitter/receiver set Band A and another set Band B? (Sennheiser XSW IEM) to be exact. All will be running into the Behringer X32 rack.
Your transmitter and receiver need to be in the same band per unit. So your transmitter needs to be in A band if you receiver is in A band.
However, if you have multiple wireless, you can mix and match bands. However, in that case, groups won’t matter with different Bands. Group 1 in A band will be different than Group 1 in B band
Always a wealth of knowledge
Thanks David!
Hey Scott was wondering your thoughts on the line 6 g10s wireless guitar system
It’s definitely too expensive for being on 2.4ghz and it requires power. I don’t recommend it. I use a ton of Line 6 stuff, but that one was a miss from them. If you want to get a cheap one I would try here: ua-cam.com/video/DSqdd--06hQ/v-deo.html
Great stuff! Cheers!
Thank you! Cheers!
Hi Scott, I have an anleon S3 which as you know doesn't have a scan option. So you have any advice for this?
The cheap stuff often doesn’t have scanning features. I recommend getting one that does scan. Otherwise, just test it at soundcheck and then if you are getting interference, try another channel
Very helpful. Thank you
Thanks!
Great Topic.
Your discussion was very helpful.
My church is using the Shure BLX4R system. The lavalier mics work on band H10 and the handhelds mics operate on band H9. Based on your discussion I believe that I do not have to be concerned if the lavalier mics are operating in groun A and the handheld mics are operating in group A because group A in the H9 and H10 bands operate in different frequency ranges with significant distance between the frequencies. Is this correct?
Yup, you most likely will be fine. Just make sure the antennas are not all just stacked on top of each other in a rack. That’s a good way to get interference. But frequency wise you should be good 👍
If you need to combine/distribute the antennas, I did a video about that here: ua-cam.com/video/fV1SJzLHwPI/v-deo.html
Awesome video! Very informative! I have a question. I have an older wireless microphone system that the frequency is no longer available for us to use. Should I just trash it? What should one do at this point? It still works great.
Yeah you aren’t “allowed” to use it technically. But I mean, that’s up to you. I don’t know how they would track that haha
657-663 MHz are technically unlicensed, but you’re still in violation if you use devices that are capable of transmitting outside these frequencies. That being said, I don’t know how they are checking for this and what the punishment is.
You definitely want to stay off the 700s because those are public safety frequencies in the US, and you’re more likely to get busted (not to mention getting interference). Best thing you can probably do is sell them on eBay. People collect them for cheap and export them to a secondary market other countries.
If you’re on tour and setting up at different venues, should you rescan every time? Or can you “set and forget” the frequencies?
Absolutely! I would, and I scan at basically every show
Very helpful
Thanks!
Thank you for this video it really helped me to understand the idea!, although I've never faced any issue with my wireless system, I own shure glxd14 could you tell me please what do you think in it?
Thanks again..
The GLX is a good system, but it’s way too expensive for being on 2.4ghz. If you have had it work for you, that’s the important part! But I would watch this video to understand 2.4 as well as my thoughts on the GLXD: ua-cam.com/video/RCrFKKr8WUA/v-deo.html
If you wanted to use 3 wireless devices would it be better have them all in the same band (G58 for example) or have all 3 using different bands (G58, H55, J52)?
Same band
Very good video Sir..
Hi, still confuse about how many transmitters you point to your Shure SLXD24 for example. I see that ou configured your Shure SLXD24 with 3 wireless channels. Does it mean that I can add/use 3 microphones on that receiver (Shure SLXD24)?
You can use 1 wireless transmitter and 1 wireless receiver at once. You can of course have 3 wireless mics set to the same frequency, and turn off the others when you are not using them and switch between the 3 mics, but you cannot have them on at the same time
@@ScottUhlMusic got it. so in your example you setup 3 wireless configuration on your Shure SLXD24, at 14:44. You mean you cannot turn on those 3 systems all together right? its just there for fast switching?
@@roggss7566 those are different frequencies. One transmitter and one receiver each should be set to those frequencies. So 3 transmitter and 3 receivers total
Ah so you have 3 SLXD24? Sorry for being dumb on this thing. Just wanted to make sure before buying things. I wanted to have 4 wireless setup that will run all at once.
I’m finding your videos super helpful! So to make sure I’m understanding, are groups universal across a particular brand’s range? So if I get two sennheiser H55 systems, then group 1 is the same set of channel frequencies? But if I use a shure system for one thing and sennheiser for another I just need to make sure I’m using quite separated channels between the two, right (like get systems of two totally different ranges)?
They groups are per band per brand as well. So if you mix and match Shure and sennheiser, I do not believe they would have the same channels in group 1. Although you could always look at the channels and compare them 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic Thank you!
Question - I’ve just bought the SLX-24 with the frequency range of 606MHz - 650MHz. I’m in the UK and I’ve read that this frequency band is now illegal! I’m a little bit clueless with this. I think it’s the J52 model. Am I correct in thinking this? Also, if it’s ok, do I need a license for this microphone?
Yeah you are not technically allowed to use that frequency anymore unfortunately. You’ll have to get another one. A lot of people sell them used for that reason
Hello! New subscriber here. I'm a singer/musician, and in the last three years, I've also become a sound guy. I want to get a wireless system, currently looking at the Senn. EW D. Question. When your device scans the groups to see how many channels are available, wouldn't it only pick up *current* interference? For example, our school has a Shure BLX, and if I were using my equipment (say that I got the senn. EW,) the scan wouldn't catch the BLX's frequency unless the BLX transmitter was turned on and transmitting signal, right?
I suppose I can just check BLX's channel and avoid that frequency. This is all new to me, but I'm concerned about devices that transmit wireless signals but are not turned on and transmit at the time of scanning but begin transmitting when an audience shows up. I don't know if that makes sense or if it's not something that really becomes a problem. I thought I'd ask.
Thanks for the sub!
Correct, there is no way for a wireless scan to be able to determine if someone else will turn on a channel sometime in the future. Just the current environment, and that’s why frequency coordination is important for higher end events
Thank you crack!
Nice video!
Thanks!
Hi Scott. I'm looking for wireless equipment for my church and I'm thinking about getting 4 sets of Anleon S3 IEMs (With four Transmitters so that each bodypack has an individual mix), and the Phenyx Pro PTU-7000-2H2B alongside another Phenyx Pro PTU-71B. So I will be using 6 Phenyx Pro wireless systems (4 transmitting into 1 receiver while the other 2 are transmitting into the other), and 4 Anleon IEMs into four separate transmitters. Here is the frequency range for each system.
Phenyx Pro PTU-7000/71B - 520-603 MHz
Anleon S3 - 518-554MHz
Is this doable or will I likely be getting interference? If it is doable, do you have any tips that was not mentioned in the video? I was also considering the PTM-10 IEM system rather than the anleon since they use 900MHz. What do you think?
I do think you will be using too much budget friendly wireless. That’s the number one issue I see people doing with wireless (myself included when I got obsessed with wireless). I go over that in this video: Choosing the Right WIRELESS SYSTEM - A Comprehensive Guide
ua-cam.com/video/Xi2JcMomjQ0/v-deo.html
I do prefer the PTM 10 IEM system (like I mention in that video) and using this trick you can get just 2 of them with 4 body packs:
ua-cam.com/video/A7Drmjn6vsQ/v-deo.htmlsi=D3VFIVXvPpuCerrT
Hope that helps 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic Thank you so much! I assumed that because of how wide the MHz tuning bandwidth is for the PTU-7000 with 83MHz (520-603MHZ) and the PTM with 20MHz (905-925 MHz) and also that they are on totally different frequencies, wouldn't that mean that there would be no way that those two system can interfere with one another? You said in the video that you linked in this comment that you recommend using up to 4-6 budget-friendly wireless systems, but in my situation, I'd be using 6 systems from the 520-603MHz range while I am using 4 wireless IEMs in the 900-925MHZ range. Therefore I have the suggested amount of wireless systems on each bandwidth. Am I making sense or does it not work like that?
That’s still a total of 10 budget friendly wireless. It CAN work, wireless isn’t an exact science. But you can also run into problems with that much budget wireless. Spacing them out on the stage can help, and using an antenna distro system and/or combiner can also help. To me, that’s too much budget friendly wireless. But it might work for you
@@ScottUhlMusic Gotchu thank you! So pretty much what you're saying is that it's risky and I'll most likely run into some problems but it could potentially work?
What u reckon is a good entry/mid level wireless mic? Sennheiser XSW 1-835? Clueless here
I have a full buying guide here: ua-cam.com/video/Xi2JcMomjQ0/v-deo.htmlsi=dgYd4JGPj5BMFxUD
Shat happened if i use wrong band in my country? G58 vs G59 specifically
You technically are not allowed to use those frequencies in your country.
How to do i stop my wireless from slighty distorted
That's not groups/channels/etc. Likely you need to make sure your gain is not set too high. Check mic/line level and make sure you aren't sending LINE level into something expecting MIC level
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