Deep Intel on the Current Global Carrier Showdown

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  • Опубліковано 15 лис 2023
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  • @WardCarroll
    @WardCarroll  6 місяців тому +33

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    • @wasrad
      @wasrad 6 місяців тому +15

      lol no

    • @Harshhaze
      @Harshhaze 6 місяців тому +24

      Security clearance immediately revoked

    • @databang
      @databang 6 місяців тому +8

      Thank you for covering allied Japanese partnership-It’s important. Peace!

    • @ilando918
      @ilando918 6 місяців тому +2

      LMAAAAO@@Harshhaze

    • @jacobscott1433
      @jacobscott1433 6 місяців тому +2

      The basic livery for the F-14B is puking dogs!

  • @wompa70
    @wompa70 6 місяців тому +98

    What a whirlwind of a rundown of global naval forces.

    • @GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket
      @GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket 6 місяців тому

      Global Naval Forces? I'm confused by your combining global and forces as to imply there's more then one navy in the world that has the global logistics needed to be, global.
      Are you seriously trying to suggest China's white water navy is worth being considered global when they aren't even a regional power?

  • @rolling_marbles
    @rolling_marbles 6 місяців тому +59

    8 Carriers operating at once. That’s a lot of power being projected!
    Nice the see the LHA/LHD force still heavily used.

    • @sailirish7
      @sailirish7 6 місяців тому

      and that's not counting the rest of their battle groups or attached submarines

  • @georgesykes394
    @georgesykes394 6 місяців тому +69

    A Nimitz Class was my home for almost 5 year's. Speed was never an issue nor getting on station. Plenty of steam to shoot off the AirWing to support any event. It was cramped and crowded but I was in awe of it's presence and ability. The Nimitz Class is just the Vince Lombardi of Aircraft Carriers.

  • @inscrutianaII
    @inscrutianaII 6 місяців тому +9

    Navy missed recruitment by 7.4k, almost 20%. I don't know how we continue this kind of surge presence without a committed surge in USV procurement. A lot of them.

    • @togowack
      @togowack 6 місяців тому +1

      The goal is to wear down your war fighting ability from the inside.

    • @inscrutianaII
      @inscrutianaII 6 місяців тому

      and, ta da, HYT Plus is extended indefinitely.

  • @F4FWildcat
    @F4FWildcat 6 місяців тому +174

    Ward, I consider your reports required viewing. I would encourage anyone wanting to be informed on what our Navy and the other branches of our military, are doing in the world. Watch Ward's reports. BZ

  • @thunderamu9543
    @thunderamu9543 6 місяців тому +18

    Once again, Mooch stands up with scuttlebutt you can trust. Thank you Sir!

    • @peekaboopeekaboo1165
      @peekaboopeekaboo1165 6 місяців тому

      So self-revealing on Mooch to include the Japanese Sun-rayed flag ... keeping neo-fascism heritage alive. 🤭
      Kantai Collection

  • @wayfaerer320
    @wayfaerer320 6 місяців тому +36

    Reading a book right now called "The Fleet at Flood Tide" and thought of your channel - it's amazing how all these years later Aircraft Carriers are starting to take center stage again for so many countries...

    • @team_not_nice7702
      @team_not_nice7702 6 місяців тому +2

      Exceptional book

    • @lukedogwalker
      @lukedogwalker 6 місяців тому +1

      It may feel like a sudden change, but it's been a long time coming. The UK's current carrier program began in 1998. There were unpredictable delays that meant the QE's were in-service within a few years of several other nation's carriers.

    • @wheel6243
      @wheel6243 6 місяців тому +4

      That book is in my 'to-read' book pile.

    • @roderickcampbell2105
      @roderickcampbell2105 6 місяців тому

      @@wheel6243 I'll add it my own pile of books. Reading Command and Control now.

    • @MDE123
      @MDE123 6 місяців тому +1

      Read that too. Excellent!

  • @gregknipe8772
    @gregknipe8772 6 місяців тому +29

    great hoodie sir! many of us non military folks watch your presentations as well, and the comments below are a highly valuable component to this format. many thanks. carry on!!

  • @colindeer9657
    @colindeer9657 6 місяців тому +16

    Ward, I totally respect your reporting for a clear understanding of what’s happening around the world. Many thanks to you for your recon. Cheers Colin

  • @Snipeyou1
    @Snipeyou1 6 місяців тому +19

    Never ceases to amaze me how much firepower we have on the water. I forgot until you mentioned that list of the carriers. Some I haven’t heard of before!!

    • @Group_Anonymous
      @Group_Anonymous 6 місяців тому +1

      water/air

    • @camzaro
      @camzaro 6 місяців тому

      I believe our mouthpieces play our military down to bait our enemies

    • @togowack
      @togowack 6 місяців тому

      America is going to need every bit of it and it still won't be enough. Foreign countries are not fighting the same country as the 40's or in the 80s. North America is in no way shape or form prepared for any larger scale war.

  • @vanceb1
    @vanceb1 6 місяців тому +1

    Interesting how both the Chinese and Philippine Coast Guard ships have the racing stripe. That was a creation of Admiral Bender, USCG Commandant in the early 70s. Prior to that, the USCG had the same uniforms as the USN. USCG ships were painted white but otherwise had a similar appearance to USN vessels. Admiral Bender wanted to create a separate identity for the USCG. He changed the uniforms (still in effect) and implemented a new logo for all units. The logo is still used. Nearly every coast guard uses the same stripes on their ships.

  • @archiehenderson2744
    @archiehenderson2744 6 місяців тому +9

    You know, I was an enlisted sailor in the late ’60’s. We did the VN thing twice.
    I think it’s just a matter of time before someone F’s-up at sea and all hell breaks loose. And it’ll be hell to pay for everyone. Us and the bad guys. 🇺🇸⚓️

  • @bbstacker4926
    @bbstacker4926 6 місяців тому +11

    That was a good report. Interesting that we have so many CVN's underway or in work ups. I noticed the USS Boxer was underway in final work up stage too. So not just the carrier force is busy.

  • @alejandrogonzales7022
    @alejandrogonzales7022 6 місяців тому +3

    How spoiled are we that you can say an aircraft carrier "only has 4th Gen Super Hornets"

  • @corsair6
    @corsair6 6 місяців тому +3

    With four CVBG currently deployed, would be interesting to see how the replenishment ships are doing and what kind of strains they are experiencing. It's no secret that the MSC ships have a high operational tempo due to the limited number of ships available in the force.

  • @TheWeatherbuff
    @TheWeatherbuff 6 місяців тому +3

    The Mooch News Network MNN lays it all down quickly and accurately... once again! Thank you, Sir!

  • @Charlie-Oooooo
    @Charlie-Oooooo 6 місяців тому +9

    Straight out and to the point. Thanks as always for another great briefing.👍

  • @Pledgeman
    @Pledgeman 6 місяців тому +6

    Thank you Mr. Ward for another detailed update. I appreciate everything you do.

  • @RNemy509
    @RNemy509 6 місяців тому +11

    Outstanding content as always, Mooch! Thank you for these important updates and your unique insights.

  • @jp92382
    @jp92382 6 місяців тому +15

    also 3 european carriers in the baltic sea under NATO command as part of Baltops exercise...

    • @kolakevicius
      @kolakevicius 6 місяців тому +1

      Wait what? Which ones?

    • @jp92382
      @jp92382 6 місяців тому +4

      ​@@kolakevicius Queen Elizabeth (UK), Juan Carlos (Spain), Cavour (Italy)

    • @livethefuture2492
      @livethefuture2492 6 місяців тому +3

      Would be nice to see the Europeans and other allies finally take their defense expenditure seriously and undertake power projection and deterrence operations of these own instead of being overly reliant on the US all the time.

    • @white-dragon4424
      @white-dragon4424 6 місяців тому +2

      @@livethefuture2492 If we really took our defence seriously then we'd have four QE-class carriers rather than just two.

    • @livethefuture2492
      @livethefuture2492 6 місяців тому +3

      @@white-dragon4424
      Yeah, I wish. The UK government has a habit of cheaping out on a lot it's defense capabilities and industry.
      IIRC the QE was meant to have a full CATOBAR system but it was shelved cuz the government wanted to do it on the cheap...in fact they barely even passed the bill to commission the PoW, they nearly scrapped even that one.

  • @ralphreinhardt6020
    @ralphreinhardt6020 6 місяців тому +2

    Top notch job on this update Ward.! 😎👍

  • @johndrummond88
    @johndrummond88 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you sir!!!! Always grateful for the updates.

  • @donkeytonks6466
    @donkeytonks6466 6 місяців тому +1

    Great reporting, Ward

  • @willwozniak2826
    @willwozniak2826 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for the updates my friend.

  • @mmmmmmm8706
    @mmmmmmm8706 6 місяців тому +1

    Exceptional coverage. More like this please!

  • @hacc220able
    @hacc220able 6 місяців тому

    Very good update - thanks for sharing.

  • @tomsmith2209
    @tomsmith2209 6 місяців тому

    Excellent analysis and presentation. Thanks.

  • @joeblair1532
    @joeblair1532 6 місяців тому

    Always look forward to your info mooch. Thank you

  • @tyarmstrong11
    @tyarmstrong11 6 місяців тому

    This was amazing reporting thank you

  • @stephendecatur189
    @stephendecatur189 6 місяців тому +4

    Thanks again, Ward. There is no other source of information on these subjects that I trust.

  • @DerekTheAntony
    @DerekTheAntony 6 місяців тому

    Ward your awesome brotha. From your experience, your intel and even sweet games, you sir have it all! Really appreciate your forward thinking. Even more so your shedding light on current events in depth. Thank you for your service!

  • @werewolf5674
    @werewolf5674 6 місяців тому

    Thank you for the update.

  • @A54729
    @A54729 6 місяців тому +1

    I know my day is complete when I hear Ward Carroll advertising the game I literally play almost exclusively

  • @ricroz07
    @ricroz07 6 місяців тому +1

    Good reporting, as always!

  • @rictaracing2736
    @rictaracing2736 6 місяців тому

    So well done thank you for the info!

  • @johnray7311
    @johnray7311 6 місяців тому

    Great report. Thanks!!

  • @htfu8
    @htfu8 6 місяців тому

    Love your work, thank you for your service.

  • @johnferguson1455
    @johnferguson1455 6 місяців тому

    Thanks Ward, excellent brief.

  • @alantoon5708
    @alantoon5708 6 місяців тому

    Excellent summary as always...

  • @darrencorrigan8505
    @darrencorrigan8505 6 місяців тому +4

    A sub could stop that. 03:15 One can see the use of the construction materials when one looks at the ship.

  • @TamagoHead
    @TamagoHead 6 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for your continued Service, & a belated happy Veterans’ Day!

  • @williamfarren3718
    @williamfarren3718 6 місяців тому +13

    Thanks Ward for another insightful update. As a Navy veteran I’m biased of course, however I’m glad to see the Navy can remain vigilant through various domestic political party administrations. It’s a fine line to walk. I speak from experience when I say the men that were in my chain of command were true leaders and are far better leaders than the politicians we have. There is no comparison between an average O5 or O6 and a representative or senator. One serves our country and risks his/her lives. The other rips the country off for political and monetary gain.

  • @jyellowhammer
    @jyellowhammer 6 місяців тому

    Nicely articulated!

  • @jamesfuria3939
    @jamesfuria3939 6 місяців тому

    Thanks on the lastest skinny on our carrier deployments Mooch. I've been out of the loop for way to long.

  • @timothyskattum950
    @timothyskattum950 6 місяців тому +1

    Very informative and eye opening. I truly enjoy the upward trend of truth being presented on UA-cam.
    Thank you for your clarity it’s absolutely refreshing.

  • @frankgulla2335
    @frankgulla2335 6 місяців тому +1

    Thanks, Ward, Great summary and excellent pictures and video, though that one shot of the F-16 and F15 seemed to have an F-35 in the middle, or did you not see because of the stealth?

  • @trusttech9942
    @trusttech9942 6 місяців тому +1

    Great summary’s!

  • @willhclark
    @willhclark 6 місяців тому

    outstanding report!

  • @AMinorCaseOfBlues
    @AMinorCaseOfBlues 6 місяців тому

    As always, Thank you, sir.

  • @christors
    @christors 6 місяців тому

    Sir, thank you for the information.

  • @ElmoUnk1953
    @ElmoUnk1953 6 місяців тому

    Excellent Report

  • @ronthompson3609
    @ronthompson3609 6 місяців тому

    Good stuff sir! Keep it up!!

  • @markdessert4077
    @markdessert4077 6 місяців тому

    Great reporting .

  • @sentenced2sail
    @sentenced2sail 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you, Ward!

  • @olentangy74
    @olentangy74 6 місяців тому +5

    While it is impressive that the USN can muster such an impressive amount of sea power, I am concerned about having so many assets on station at once. This is placing a lot of wear and tear on both the ships, aircraft , and personnel. The Ford was supposed to be home already and the other carriers were surged quickly with little turnaround.
    Our forces are being rode hard

    • @tonysu8860
      @tonysu8860 6 місяців тому +1

      I think the way the content was presented might have been misleading.
      AFAIK the total number of active, forward deployed carriers is actually 5 so I assume the other 3 are simply pre-positioning and likely are sailing stateside.

    • @togowack
      @togowack 6 місяців тому

      Yes the goal is to wear down your armed forces and then start ww3 at the point where they are depleted and all expected to come home. Very hard times are ahead for Americans. They have had many years to study carrier operations infiltrate your military and spy out the land. Most have no idea whats about to hit.

    • @death_parade
      @death_parade 5 місяців тому +1

      Expect them to be rode hard even more in coming years. The Chinese will test your military's endurance by threatening to attack yet never making good on those threats. They do the same with us on the India-China border. Although, it ends up biting them back because the Indian Army can maintain larger deployments at 15,000 feet for longer than the PLA can, as a result of which PLA rotates troops much more often. Still, they are incrementally improving their own endurance while testing the endurance of our military to deploy in the Himalayas. Only reason we can keep up is because of the practice we've had with the Pakistanis who keep us on our toes, forcing us to deploy at 18,000 feet continuously.

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ 6 місяців тому

    Good stuff, Mooch!

  • @Emanemoston
    @Emanemoston 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for the video.

  • @DewJohnson1
    @DewJohnson1 6 місяців тому

    good and interesting report Mooch! Time for some Geedunk

  • @callenclarke371
    @callenclarke371 6 місяців тому +2

    Big-Picture content. Helps to pull us out of the rabbit-trails.
    Thank you for this, Ward.

  • @user-uk1uu9vt8z
    @user-uk1uu9vt8z 6 місяців тому

    Thank you from Australia.

  • @msimon6808
    @msimon6808 6 місяців тому

    Loved the picture at 5:15. This time they are on our side.

  • @johngeorgegately7402
    @johngeorgegately7402 6 місяців тому +1

    Pronunciations -- A+ Well done Mooch

  • @eddiestray4870
    @eddiestray4870 6 місяців тому +1

    And while (almost) all other players are showing their big cards around, Admiral Kuznetsov undergoes its life long maintenance into an improvised frozen dock...

  • @dchanson55
    @dchanson55 6 місяців тому +1

    Roger that. Good brief Mooch.

  • @danielcarlson800
    @danielcarlson800 6 місяців тому

    THANKS for the update, Mooch!!!!! 🇺🇸

  • @paulanthonynelson2733
    @paulanthonynelson2733 6 місяців тому +1

    Carry on Mr Mooch!

  • @maurice7433
    @maurice7433 6 місяців тому

    Want the 3d decorator. But I’m a long time warthunder veteran. Thank you for advertising my favorite game Ward!

  • @B61Mod12
    @B61Mod12 6 місяців тому

    Good brief thank you

  • @thepurpleufo
    @thepurpleufo 6 місяців тому

    Keep on "Moochin' " !!!!

  • @user-bd5nh5eb4b
    @user-bd5nh5eb4b 6 місяців тому

    Ward, any more information on the Savannah Crash, there seems to be an information vacum the size of The Hindenburg on this . Love your channel ❤.

  • @MattttG3
    @MattttG3 6 місяців тому

    One Love to you also Ward. God knows I really would love to hear you hit the J to relax too my good Sir.

  • @themoonman-4
    @themoonman-4 6 місяців тому

    Bravo Ward Thank You!

  • @JSFGuy
    @JSFGuy 6 місяців тому +3

    Let's check it out, silent notice on this one.

  • @jasonclark5484
    @jasonclark5484 6 місяців тому +2

    73% Availability! Holy Smokes, when was the last time that Happened? Thanks for the updates, keep up the great work.

  • @brentgilbert4208
    @brentgilbert4208 6 місяців тому +2

    Good info. Also, a Gibson man! I like that! 👍

    • @ysobel14517
      @ysobel14517 6 місяців тому

      I see a Rick back there, too! 🙂

  • @three-eyedbro
    @three-eyedbro 6 місяців тому

    Side note: your hoodie is awesome!

  • @martingrzanna2005
    @martingrzanna2005 6 місяців тому

    New Fan of this channel since few weeks👍

  • @TyrannoJoris_Rex
    @TyrannoJoris_Rex 6 місяців тому

    5:15 Bro on the right looks straight out of an anime with those flashy sideburns. I dig it

  • @TMHerron
    @TMHerron 6 місяців тому

    Thanks Mooch!

  • @physetermacrocephalus2209
    @physetermacrocephalus2209 6 місяців тому +84

    Lots of small jump carriers is*the new meta. Its why the F35 was ultimatley the right move despite being a pain in the ass. We didnt just get a new plane; the jump VTOL capability of the F35 means we also essentially doubled our carrier fleet and ensured we can continue standing up new ships and planes for them as needed.

    • @CharlesYuditsky
      @CharlesYuditsky 6 місяців тому +19

      For all its problems the F-35 is one damn good plane. Im sure it will perform well in combat. It is the height of irony that the Lightening II cannot currently operate near lightening. Hope they get that fixed.

    • @JohnMaxGriffin
      @JohnMaxGriffin 6 місяців тому +10

      Yep. The F-35B single-handedly made small conventional carriers a lot more viable. However when the Navy gets its new bigger fighters, the balance may shift again back towards catobar.

    • @livethefuture2492
      @livethefuture2492 6 місяців тому +5

      The ultimate question still remains I guess - "Is one great plane enough?".
      Can you fight a war with just one high tech platform to service a multitude of missions and capabilities.
      And I guess the most important question, do we even have the production capacity to produce F-35's on a scale to use as a universal fighter for all parties involved in sufficient numbers.

    • @starfleethastanks
      @starfleethastanks 6 місяців тому +3

      Especially when you consider that the Royal Navy concluded the Falklands task force might have been worse off with Ark Royal or Eagle due to the challenge of CATOBAR recovery in poor weather.

    • @CharlesYuditsky
      @CharlesYuditsky 6 місяців тому +5

      ​​​@@livethefuture2492Actually the F-35 is 3 platforms, A, B and C models. The aircraft looks to be multi-role capable even in its A model. My guess is that F-35s can be produced without the full sensor suites it currently has to meet wartime production demands. Also, when the full compliment of 3,500 Lightening IIs have been been built, I don't think there will be any air opposition left in a full global war against Eurasian powers. This is not blind optimism, just looking at the numbers and capability the 35 brings to the table.

  • @Michael_Williams
    @Michael_Williams 6 місяців тому +2

    The PLA Navy is messing with the "Find out" portion of that famous equation...

    • @livethefuture2492
      @livethefuture2492 6 місяців тому +1

      All it takes is to mess with our ships...Japan certainly 'found out'.
      Though ironically any Chinese first strike would probably happen on Okinawa which is part of Japan.

  • @michaeldawson5188
    @michaeldawson5188 6 місяців тому +1

    Thanks SO much for your insightful and informative videos from a fellow pilot and guitarist! Most of all thank you for your service to our nation. 🇺🇲

  • @mj1234321
    @mj1234321 6 місяців тому +1

    Thanks!

    • @WardCarroll
      @WardCarroll  6 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the support!

  • @johncheresna
    @johncheresna 6 місяців тому +1

    Thanks

  • @raynic1173
    @raynic1173 6 місяців тому

    Mooch, you got to warn us when you're breaking into a commercial...for a split second there, I thought we were at....lol

  • @bertg.6056
    @bertg.6056 6 місяців тому +1

    Wow, so much intel !

  • @josephgriffin2388
    @josephgriffin2388 6 місяців тому +1

    That's a very good barometer on fleet readiness.
    That's kinda scary at the same time.

  • @pudder68
    @pudder68 6 місяців тому +4

    Clear, concise, no fluff, and packed with inside information and insight, Thank you for all your hard work.

  • @deegee9448
    @deegee9448 6 місяців тому

    That's a lot of firepower floatin around!

  • @Jaxymann
    @Jaxymann 6 місяців тому

    Fantastic work as ever Ward. Appreciate your hard work for us on the channel🫡

  • @user-ft2zc5or9d
    @user-ft2zc5or9d 6 місяців тому +3

    8 carriers at sea is wild 😂 and 4 being forward deployed ready to fight

    • @Lucky-sh1dm
      @Lucky-sh1dm 6 місяців тому +4

      All that to supposedly stop some dudes in sandals and old Kalashnikovs lmao.

    • @peekaboopeekaboo1165
      @peekaboopeekaboo1165 6 місяців тому

      More likely to be muscle flexing and saber rattling .

  • @snail415
    @snail415 6 місяців тому +1

    Comprehensive, concise, and trustworthy. 🤘

  • @lonnieholcomb2078
    @lonnieholcomb2078 6 місяців тому

    Good Video

  • @TheBeast-tj9qo
    @TheBeast-tj9qo 6 місяців тому

    My new channel no robot voice and the information is true. Good Job Ward keep the videos rolling.

  • @belowme8893
    @belowme8893 6 місяців тому +2

    Just don't leave all the gear there when you're done

  • @kCI251
    @kCI251 6 місяців тому +2

    What happens in 6 to 12 months when all the CAG crews are tapped out? You can't keep 75% of your forces at sea for extended deployments.

    • @georgesykes394
      @georgesykes394 6 місяців тому +1

      Congress will need to reinstate The Draft.

    • @tonysu8860
      @tonysu8860 6 місяців тому

      AFAIK only the Ford is forward deployed and extended so the total number of actively operating and forward deployed is likely 5. I only caught the description of one active carrier that's not forward deployed in this video but I imagine all 3 probably are being re-positioned as reserves stateside should they be needed and not considered "deployed."

  • @Kenneth_James
    @Kenneth_James 6 місяців тому

    5:21 That dude on the right is straight outta an anime!

  • @JeffBilkins
    @JeffBilkins 6 місяців тому +2

    could be fun to do a talk about air-wing upgrades, like how not every carrier can fly F-35's yet.

  • @Habu12
    @Habu12 6 місяців тому +6

    According to a 2016 resolution, China has no legal claim to the islands.

    • @livethefuture2492
      @livethefuture2492 6 місяців тому +1

      China has no 'Legal' claim period.
      But that won't stop them, only effective deterrence will.

    • @mikehammer4018
      @mikehammer4018 6 місяців тому +2

      "God created men, Colonel Colt made them equal"
      A legal claim is only valid if all interested parties agree to it. As it stands, China disputes the claim. Currently the dispute isn't actively kinetic; but that may change with no warning. One major factor in the CCP analysis is the likely international response, led by the US and its fleet of carriers.

    • @peekaboopeekaboo1165
      @peekaboopeekaboo1165 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@mikehammer4018
      U$ object and oppose PRC's 9 dash line claim ... But remained silent on ROC's 11 dash line claim. 🤭

    • @mikehammer4018
      @mikehammer4018 6 місяців тому

      @@peekaboopeekaboo1165 Hey guy, thanks for the head's up! That bit of history made for some really interesting reading.
      I am not, nor do I claim to be, an expert on history or geopolitics. That being said, what Chiang Kai-shek wrote on a map in 1947 has very little bearing on modern times. If anything, take the US stance on the 9 dash line as a form of respect. Nobody at all cares what Borneo claims as its sovereign territory.
      Furthermore, Taiwan has not been territorially aggressive (with the possible exception of its status as a "rogue province" of the mainland) so its claims are academic. The CCP, by contrast, has been very aggressive in pursuing its claims and has proven to have the will, and increasingly, the means to compete.
      This posturing has gotten more confrontational in recent years; and many people fear it will be only a matter of time before somebody does something stupid and a hot war erupts. With the massive power potential combatants can bring, the potential loss of life is stunning. It's my dearest hope that peace will prevail.
      However, I doubt that'll happen; what with human nature being what it so often is.