The 10 Ugliest Military Jets Ever

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  • Mooch ranks the 10 ugliest military jets using the Mooch Tally, a proprietary algorithm that uses data. Remember, the Mooch Tally isn't opinion; it's science.
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  • @major__kong
    @major__kong 4 місяці тому +327

    I think the Vulcan bomber was pretty cool. I wouldn't call it ugly. Also, it had this amazing howl caused by resonance from the intakes.

    • @BobGeogeo
      @BobGeogeo 4 місяці тому +18

      And also: Thunderball.

    • @davidsmith8997
      @davidsmith8997 4 місяці тому +72

      The Vulcan is arguably the best looking bomber of all time!

    • @grahambuckerfield4640
      @grahambuckerfield4640 4 місяці тому +31

      @@davidsmith8997 Agreed, as for mission capabilities to do the then longest bombing raid in history, as the aircraft were being retired, without the massive funding and support of the US. Also, it adapted well to low level operations.
      I don’t get the mission capability of the Yak-38, a carrier aircraft with no radar, only AIM-9B copy Atoll AAM’s, or a small weapon load with minimal range.
      It needed the auto elect capability due to it being so dangerous.

    • @Marc-ww7cc
      @Marc-ww7cc 4 місяці тому +23

      With you guys on this one. Vulcan looks absolutely terrifying.

    • @ericaandshane
      @ericaandshane 4 місяці тому +26

      Have to chime in. Seeing the beautiful Vulcan fly at RIAT a decade ago was a highlight of this plane geek's life. The Vulcan and Victor are stunning aircraft, designed shortly after the war.

  • @Craiglife777
    @Craiglife777 4 місяці тому +151

    The F-94 should get some bonus points for fighting Godzilla.....we even have it on film.

    • @Yadro767
      @Yadro767 4 місяці тому +22

      And the Vulcan for its role in James Bond's Thunderball.

    • @maximilliancunningham6091
      @maximilliancunningham6091 4 місяці тому +4

      Akward, straight wings, boxy, a T-33 that was left out in the sun, too long.

    • @jonathanhudak2059
      @jonathanhudak2059 4 місяці тому +5

      Craiglufe777, right lol! The Starfire is odd but still cool like a more uncommon 1950s American car like an Edsel

    • @robfredericks2984
      @robfredericks2984 4 місяці тому +1

      LOL!

  • @JohnTBlock
    @JohnTBlock 4 місяці тому +20

    Ugly is as ugly does - the A-10 is beautiful to any grunt it saved! And as said in "Flight of the Intruder", " Fighter pilots make movies, Bomber pilots make HISTORY!"

  • @huffdaddy3845
    @huffdaddy3845 4 місяці тому +8

    If you've ever seen a Vulcan fly, there is no way you'd say it's ugly. It's one of my favorites.

  • @leifkirchoff
    @leifkirchoff 4 місяці тому +34

    Curve on the Vulcan provides an efficient transonic wing with low speed handling. They adapted this design for the Concord.

    • @B-A-L
      @B-A-L 4 місяці тому +4

      No doubt he'd include the Concord if he made a list of ugliest civil airplanes too, oh and leave out the Boeing SST.

  • @badeyebill50
    @badeyebill50 4 місяці тому +110

    WTF???? The VULCAN is one BAD ASS Bomber It was GREAT at Bomb Comp in the late 70s and early 80s dont Forget the Falkland Islands Bombing from Jolly Old England In My Opinion one of the very Best looking Planes ever.....Just an OLD B52H Crew Chief

    • @lightwoven5326
      @lightwoven5326 4 місяці тому +9

      And one of the best ecm's also landed at New York and no one knew it was there. Was able to fly supersonic at 50 foot and its ceiling was in excess of 40 thousand.

    • @raymurphy9749
      @raymurphy9749 4 місяці тому +9

      Not to mention that the Vulcans 'nuked' America twice therefore being the most capable in terms of battle damage on top of the howl that put the fear of god into you with it's four Olympus engines and it's looks that made the USSR tremble

    • @sureshot8399
      @sureshot8399 3 місяці тому +1

      @@lightwoven5326 Much as I love the Vulcan, I gotta tell you the only way a Vulcan was supersonic at 50 feet is if it was in a nose dive and hit the deck 49 feet later. Still don't see it or any of the other V-bombers as ugly though, particularly the Vulcan.

    • @lightwoven5326
      @lightwoven5326 3 місяці тому +2

      @sureshot8399 My father was an aircraft engineer. It was foolhardy ;) and top speed is officially 'close' to the speed of sound, and you are aware its air density as well as load etc. And ofc some performance details were obsurfcated, but they did have to remove bits of tree after 1 flight. Also the flight ceiling was approx. 58 thousand feet. Checked some details and a conversation with the pilot on its last tour at Farnborough. If he claims that he was doing the speed of sound at 50 foot, I suspect he wasn't monitoring the instruments closely lol or it would be more about plough damage.

    • @richardvernon317
      @richardvernon317 3 місяці тому

      @@lightwoven5326 No Vulcan broke Mach 1 ever!! A Victor Mk 1 did in a dive and everybody at its airfield at Radlett heard the boom.

  • @kareliask
    @kareliask 4 місяці тому +91

    Bringing the V bombers into this qualifies as rage baiting :D The RAF did produce some monstrosities in the transport category, the AW Argosy and Blackburn Beverley are some all-time great eyesores.

    • @charlesparr1611
      @charlesparr1611 4 місяці тому +11

      Fairey gannet.... Oh god the electric lightning... That thing was hideous... Sure was fast though.

    • @reubensandwich9249
      @reubensandwich9249 4 місяці тому +6

      The V bombers I always felt looked awesome. The English Electric Lightening and Harrier didn't look nice. The F-111 I feel is one of the worst.

    • @leaj847
      @leaj847 4 місяці тому +5

      Yes, the Fairey Gannet should have been on the list!!

    • @nicklovell5872
      @nicklovell5872 4 місяці тому +1

      @@leaj847The Gannet didn't qualify for this list. It was a turboprop, not a pure jet.

    • @maximilliancunningham6091
      @maximilliancunningham6091 4 місяці тому +2

      The TSR-2 was beutifull, and reeked of SPEED, from every angle.

  • @johnhunt1725
    @johnhunt1725 4 місяці тому +85

    A little surprised the F-117 didn't at least get a mention...

    • @klonkimo
      @klonkimo 4 місяці тому +10

      Maybe an honorable mention, it's mission capability would have been a 11 out of 10

    • @davidsmith8997
      @davidsmith8997 4 місяці тому +1

      Agreed, it's ugly as f***.

    • @davidsmith8997
      @davidsmith8997 4 місяці тому +5

      @@klonkimo I don't think it's done nearly as much as the A-6, and that only got an 8.

    • @klonkimo
      @klonkimo 4 місяці тому +5

      @@davidsmith8997 yeah, I thought the Intruder was pretty low there too, I'm sure Danny Glover would agree. Bombing Baghdad wasn't possible without it or more casualties though, being able to go where no one else can is quite a capability.

    • @davidsmith8997
      @davidsmith8997 4 місяці тому +7

      @@klonkimo I agree it certainly deserves a high score for being the first functional stealth jet. It went where no one else could, just as you say.

  • @GARDENER42
    @GARDENER42 4 місяці тому +59

    Valiant not Vixen for the third V bomber.
    The only Vixen was the de Havilland Sea Vixen, as fleet air defence fighter.

    • @poprocket2342
      @poprocket2342 4 місяці тому +3

      The sea vixen definitely deserves to be on this list though

    • @richardvernon317
      @richardvernon317 3 місяці тому +1

      @@poprocket2342 Supermarine Attacker, The first NAA Furyand Sea Venom should be on this list.

    • @callumsmodellingcentre6902
      @callumsmodellingcentre6902 3 місяці тому

      Wouldn't argue that this list is perfect, definetly more inconsistencies throughout

  • @yetiatlarge555
    @yetiatlarge555 4 місяці тому +51

    Ugly is the craft that fails to get you home.

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer 4 місяці тому +1

      The ensign eliminator will get you home.
      Well, it’ll get you to landing.

    • @yetiatlarge555
      @yetiatlarge555 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Justanotherconsumer That is legendary I always thought that plane from the outside looked a little bit like a puffin. But again the only perspective that really matters is from the cockpit look out on short final. And any landing where you can use the plane again is a good landing. Thank you so much for replying I appreciate you I subscribed to your channel

    • @brentbernard3631
      @brentbernard3631 4 місяці тому +1

      All too true🤬😡🥺😭

    • @livethefuture2492
      @livethefuture2492 4 місяці тому +1

      You mean the 737 MAX?

    • @yetiatlarge555
      @yetiatlarge555 4 місяці тому

      No, I examine the totality of circumstance. I never even considered this aircraft for the sole purpose of having a moment of levity with Mooch. @@livethefuture2492

  • @Batman_Pancakes
    @Batman_Pancakes 4 місяці тому +26

    Aww, the A6 was always one of my favorites, but I grew up watching Flight of the Intruder constantly, it's still one of my favorite movies.

    • @johnnyh3653
      @johnnyh3653 4 місяці тому +5

      I grew near NAS Whidbey where the west coast A-6 squadrons were based. I loved watching those planes.

    • @DylanTheGrizzlyGuy
      @DylanTheGrizzlyGuy 4 місяці тому +6

      I love the A6!

  • @tegli4
    @tegli4 4 місяці тому +58

    Come on! Look at that smile on the XF32. The lil guy wants to be friends!
    Of course that list is very subjective, but I have always fund the V bombers AND the UK's early jet plane designs quite visually striking. I see them as peak retro-futurism.

    • @mpatrick7860
      @mpatrick7860 4 місяці тому +2

      When I see the V bombers, for some reason I think Bond.....James Bond.

    • @tegli4
      @tegli4 4 місяці тому

      @@mpatrick7860 recently got subscribed to Amazon Prime and watched Doctor No which is chronologically the first Bond movie. Was pleasantly surprised by it and I plan to watch more of those oldies. I remember watching Never Say Never Again many years ago and it was my introduction to Bond. After a quick check I see that Thunderball (which I presume is the movie you are referring to regarding the V bombers) have almost the same plot as NSNA. Would be interesting to compare those two.

    • @ryanw1433
      @ryanw1433 4 місяці тому +3

      He’s laughing at you like a drunk pelican.

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape 4 місяці тому

      The X-32 looks like an overfed wiener dog that wants to roll over and have its belly rubbed.

    • @JoshuaC923
      @JoshuaC923 4 місяці тому

      Like the nimrod

  • @MrPr3shaff
    @MrPr3shaff 4 місяці тому +61

    You loved the A-6 when you were low on fuel. Your Tomcat drank a lot of gas.
    Fighter guys make movies, attack guys win wars!!!

    • @CPO-Snarky
      @CPO-Snarky 4 місяці тому +5

      💯

    • @user-ho1yn6ms7y
      @user-ho1yn6ms7y 4 місяці тому +10

      “Fighter pukes make movies, bomber pilots make history!”

    • @learnmore6474
      @learnmore6474 4 місяці тому +1

      In the attack community which is awarded first, wings or jealousy?

    • @aaronseet2738
      @aaronseet2738 4 місяці тому +4

      IT IS AN A-6 DRIVER BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE ON THIS SHIP CAN HIT THE XO'S ASHTRAY

    • @stubryant9145
      @stubryant9145 3 місяці тому

      I like the A7, don't regard it as ugly. Occasionally saw one out of NAS Lemoore attempt to harass me while on a forest fire lookout. Which I absolutely loved!

  • @E.King1845
    @E.King1845 4 місяці тому +18

    Honestly I always thought of the A-7 Corsair as a pretty cool looking plane. Performance wise it wasn't as sleek and fast as the F series planes. But it got the job done.

  • @Kamaole3
    @Kamaole3 4 місяці тому +13

    I participated in a Red Team review of the X-32 when I worked at Boeing. The Air Force had dubbed it 'Monica'.
    I remember one comment from a design team member that started like this "Here's how we stuffed this turkey..."

    • @mpatrick7860
      @mpatrick7860 4 місяці тому +4

      I was also working at Boeing then. I felt the X-32 should have won. Sorry to seem conspiratorial but Cheney's wife was a major Lockheed share holder. That entire family couldn't care less about mission capability or the welfare of the crews or troops on the ground. They only wanted that stock price up. When I worked at Edwards years later, I saw a lot of 35's and they did a lot of sitting on the ground.

    • @ISpinUWin
      @ISpinUWin 4 місяці тому +3

      My father was with Raytheon/TI and was part of the target acquisition team, which included interfacing with the 360 helmet display. He also thought it had superior capabilities compared to the competition. I still have his project jacket and I know I have an X35 Christmas ornament somewhere. ;)

  • @romine777
    @romine777 4 місяці тому +19

    I agree with all of your selections except for the A-7. To me, seeing the A-7 approaching and landing on a carrier is a sight to behold.

    • @joshcarter-com
      @joshcarter-com 3 місяці тому +3

      I always loved the A-7, too. Really nice lines and proportions. When I think 1970’s Cold War attack plane, the A-7 is what comes to mind.

    • @bostonrailfan2427
      @bostonrailfan2427 3 місяці тому +1

      it’s ugly, but it worked hard for years…ugly doesn’t matter if it saves lives and protects the ships

  • @PaulDoumerBridge
    @PaulDoumerBridge 4 місяці тому +10

    A good friend of mine was a USAF test pilot in the early 90's. He flew every attack and fighter aircraft in the USAF that was in the inventory at the time. He was one of the last if not the last regular USAF pilot to be mission qualified on the A-7D. He has mentioned several times he loved flying the A-7. He said it had great range, the moving map display worked really well and surprisingly he said it was almost as fast as the F-15E Strike Eagle on the deck.

    • @robertwarner5963
      @robertwarner5963 4 місяці тому +1

      Good point! When heavily-loaded, few supersonic fighters can exceed the speed of sound.

  • @kevinmyers440
    @kevinmyers440 4 місяці тому +65

    I’m sure a lot of ground troops would argue with an eight for the warthog

    • @charlesparr1611
      @charlesparr1611 4 місяці тому +6

      Especially the ones killed by friendly fire, of which the a10 is the all time leader. Ih wait, we never hear from them, because they're dead.

    • @charlesmartin1121
      @charlesmartin1121 4 місяці тому +6

      There are different types of beauty. And seeing that magnificent hog roll-in on an enemy position with it's massive gun burring...that is a beauty sight.

    • @charlesparr1611
      @charlesparr1611 4 місяці тому +4

      @@charlesmartin1121 I believe none of those types of beauty is 'killing friendlies because the pilot has to decide targets by peering over the side through binoculars and frequently hits the wrong crowd of dots.'
      Maybe I'm old fashioned about that.

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer 4 місяці тому +2

      I’m sure a lot of the Air Force brass would agree, given how eagerly they try to get rid of it.
      It’s a meme, not an amazing airplane.

    • @ImpendingJoker
      @ImpendingJoker 4 місяці тому

      That has nothing to do with the airplane though. That was due to pilot error. So that would have no bearing on the aircraft itself.@@charlesparr1611

  • @Dr_Reason
    @Dr_Reason 4 місяці тому +9

    The Cutlass did not require a boat to be dangerous. It could be dangerous anywhere.

  • @ilejovcevski79
    @ilejovcevski79 4 місяці тому +15

    I refuse to consider the Starfire ugly! I used to a have a toy of it as a kid, and to this day i still find it lovely!

  • @harrylime3.143
    @harrylime3.143 4 місяці тому +49

    I think you got it right Mooch, science comes through again

  • @CrazyChemistPL
    @CrazyChemistPL 4 місяці тому +55

    I like the look of the Corsair II. Stubby, sure but the overall lines are still as elegant and harmonious. In fact I somewhat feel like it is the Crusader that is a tad too long rather then Corsair being too short.
    And sorry, but Victor is an awesome looking airplane. Like something totally out of this world... that could be just me, though, I always had a soft spot for alt looks.

    • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
      @Allan_aka_RocKITEman 4 місяці тому +5

      I like the A-7 Corsair. I think I built a plastic model kit of one when I was a kid.

    • @charlesparr1611
      @charlesparr1611 4 місяці тому +5

      The Vulcan is awesome and gorgeous and was proven extremely effective as well, lumping three wildly different aircraft together like that is so bizarre that I can only assume he's setting us up for a huge battle with Justin Bronk over British aircraft aesthetics.
      And I am here for it.

    • @charlesmartin1121
      @charlesmartin1121 4 місяці тому +7

      Totally agree. The A-7 had a kind of utilitarian beauty.

    • @CrazyChemistPL
      @CrazyChemistPL 4 місяці тому

      @@charlesparr1611 Of the specifically British jet aircraft I can say I really like the look of four. One bomber, Victor and three fighters/attackers: Javelin, Harrier and, this gonna be controversial, Sea Vixen. The Sea Vixen has amazing silhouette and I'm pretty sure if it had either centerline or more traditional side-by-side cockpit, it would be considered one of the better looking early jets.
      Honourable mention for the BAC Lightning, I like the look of it, but not on par with the previous ones.
      Now, there seems to be serious omissions on my list, some great looking planes like the Tornado or the Eurofighter, but I omitted them on the ground of them being joint ventures rather than exclusively British projects.

    • @smgdfcmfah
      @smgdfcmfah 4 місяці тому

      Love the Victor - but it's BECAUSE it looks like something designed by a 1930s science fiction author!

  • @warhawk_111
    @warhawk_111 4 місяці тому +18

    Hello from Sweden. Happy to see we got represented in this list also

    • @emmettjones5165
      @emmettjones5165 4 місяці тому +1

      SAAB's reputation for aviation engineering excellence and producing highly-capable aircraft of marked durability is well known and admired here.

    • @warhawk_111
      @warhawk_111 4 місяці тому

      Yeah we are a small country but makes some high quality military equipment @@emmettjones5165

  • @scottfw7169
    @scottfw7169 4 місяці тому +25

    A-7 Corsair 2 was really the Corsair 3 and the F4U Corsair was actually the Corsair 2 because the Vought O2U of 1927 was the first Corsair.

    • @mpatrick7860
      @mpatrick7860 4 місяці тому +4

      I always thought the A-7 looked very cool.

    • @listerdave1240
      @listerdave1240 4 місяці тому +2

      I would wholeheartedly agree with you but science is science.

    • @georgeb424
      @georgeb424 4 місяці тому +4

      The A-7 squadrons on NIMITZ wore a patch "Harley of the Fleet". I found them particularly awkward when viewed while landing; the main gear came out of the center line of the fuselage and looked almost like an inverted V. When coming in to land, it was always "little left, little right, little left, little right... oh to H#$% with it... BANG, on deck"! Then they wobbled to over to park in the six-pack. Reminded me of an Albatross bird landing.

  • @Rover200Power
    @Rover200Power 4 місяці тому +4

    The Avro Vulcan started out with a straight leading edge, but testing showed buffeting during high speed manoeuvres, so the kink was added along with some other changes. A beautiful bit of engineering.

  • @gregorymaupin6388
    @gregorymaupin6388 4 місяці тому +60

    As an A-7E Corsair maintainer I Loved her also she’s absolutely gorgeous.

    • @mpatrick7860
      @mpatrick7860 4 місяці тому +4

      To me the A-7 high speed low passes were a thing of beauty.

    • @rp1645
      @rp1645 4 місяці тому +3

      YES you being a service guy ( crew members) can see how you loved your babies. You knew the insides and out of her. Me being a construction guy, I grew up running CASE Backhoe 580-C very advanced smooth looking Backhoe. But I feel in Love with the Bucyrus Erie 190 Dynahoe ( all the guys I worked with) called them Dyna-PIGS a very heavy (19000) pounder. The thing about the Dynahoe was the STRONGEST deepest digging depth for a rubber tired backhoe
      19 feet with standard boom and dipper NO extendahoe. I bought one in 2003 for $5000 it now has close to 9000 hours on meter. Never have overhauled the old reliable 353 Detroit Diesel. She just keeps digging in my back yard. I keep her plugged in in cooler weather. That Detroit Diesel takes straight 40Wt. None detergent heavy duty Diesel Oil. (Delo)
      They had an electric solenoid switch for rear single wheels BRAKES. No double brake pedals like most backhoes. I was told by a service guy when I bought her who used to sell the Dynahoe that the city's like New York would ( spec) out the new backhoe on that braking system. No one else in the market place in the 1970s made that system. They did hold up very strongly with a ( bull nose) hammer breakers. They also did excellent work as a hoe pack on ditch work.

    • @gregorymaupin6388
      @gregorymaupin6388 4 місяці тому +3

      @@mpatrick7860 100% Right

    • @bradlincoln2418
      @bradlincoln2418 4 місяці тому +3

      A-10 is a beauty

    • @chris_hisss
      @chris_hisss 4 місяці тому +2

      Yeah this seems to be a polarizing plane. For me though I love it. I also had no idea what a crusaider was until much later, I always thought THAT looked ugly compared to the A-7. But like mooch says what pushed it up was that 3 of the community mentioned it. I also don't really agree with the effectiveness of a 7, if the A-10 gets an 8 the A-7 would, it has put in way more work than the A-10 or really any up to that point, but I digress.

  • @user-ie4pj3xc3e
    @user-ie4pj3xc3e 4 місяці тому +14

    Mr. Carroll,
    IMHO, you Missed One. The F-89 Scorpion actually makes the F-94 and A-10 look really good. That's saying a lot.
    Thanks for all the postings. Keep it up.
    From af ormer F-4 WSO

    • @terrywall7517
      @terrywall7517 4 місяці тому

      Ditto for the F-89.

    • @bostonrailfan2427
      @bostonrailfan2427 3 місяці тому

      …why? it look very similar and had a service life twice as long as the F-94. that puts it ahead of it

  • @kenjohnson5124
    @kenjohnson5124 4 місяці тому +21

    9:55 Not “Vixen” but “Valiant”!

    • @davidellis2021
      @davidellis2021 4 місяці тому +4

      Rare mistake there. Don't know why they only got a 3 for mission capability. The Vulcan bombed Port Stanley from Ascension Island, refuelled by Victors. Also, the kink of the wing was to remove buffeting. The early Vulcan's had straight wings.

    • @kenjohnson5124
      @kenjohnson5124 4 місяці тому

      @@davidellis2021 Yeah, rare indeed! Good ole Mooch!
      Yeah, one had problems with refueling and had to divert to Brazil. They had trouble jettisoning the ARM missiles (Shrike) and Brazil got a look at our missiles! Maybe had the Argentine left his radar on long enough, the missiles may not have fired! If the jettison system failed, why couldn’t the crew just fire them off overriding the lock on system?

    • @johnhudghton3535
      @johnhudghton3535 4 місяці тому

      ​@@kenjohnson5124Come on, these aircraft were at the very end of their luves, they were literally rescued and rebuilt from the scrap pile, no wonder they had servicability issues.

    • @OneEyedJacker
      @OneEyedJacker 3 місяці тому +1

      Vulcan, Victor, Valiant.

  • @paulheitkemper1559
    @paulheitkemper1559 4 місяці тому +3

    XF-84H Thunderscreech. The loudest aircraft ever made. The propeller tips travelled faster than the speed of sound even at idle thrust. It severely incapacitated a guy on the ground during a run-up.

  • @onkelmicke9670
    @onkelmicke9670 4 місяці тому +13

    Cutlass looks cool. The Parasite Fighter certainly has the looks of a parasite.

  • @diraziz396
    @diraziz396 4 місяці тому +6

    04:39 - That shot shows how badass that corsair is. Thanks Mooch

  • @emmettjones5165
    @emmettjones5165 4 місяці тому +5

    Ward, I'm going to have to ask you to review your Mission Capability score of 3 for the Vulcan bombers, I think the raid on Port Stanley airfield 1 May 1982... and all that tanking... alone should raise this score to a higher number than three. Even as an American, there will always be a place in my heart for the Spitfire, the Rolls-Royce Merlin engine, the Harrier, Tornado...and Vulcan.

  • @WesleyandCiara
    @WesleyandCiara 4 місяці тому +5

    Your passion for all things military and geopolitics is infectious. Wishing you growth here on the channel and personally. Keep the content coming!

  • @Glen.Danielsen
    @Glen.Danielsen 4 місяці тому +9

    Ward, this is creativeness! And delightful as always.

  • @charlessage7323
    @charlessage7323 4 місяці тому +16

    I guess I'm in the go ugly early crowd. I liked all those airplanes aesthetically, well except the Goblin, and come on the X-32? How can you be so harsh with an airplane that always looks so happy?!

    • @ddegn
      @ddegn 4 місяці тому +2

      I thought they were all beautiful. Apparently science has concluded I have no taste.

    • @Farweasel
      @Farweasel 4 місяці тому

      It looks like a blissed out Basking Shark
      [I *like* basking sharks, they're sort of friendly giants]

    • @mpatrick7860
      @mpatrick7860 4 місяці тому

      I was never entirely sure the Goblin was a real thing. I remember a plastic model in the 70's that looked like that and it was called a Flapjack.

    • @ddegn
      @ddegn 4 місяці тому

      @@mpatrick7860 I think the Vought XF5U had the nickname of Flapjack. It was another really strange looking airplane.

    • @charlessage7323
      @charlessage7323 4 місяці тому

      I think I remember that model, it looked like the Goblin but the wings actually flapped? And as noted below, the actual flying flapjack was a whole different animal and kinda on the ugly side.@@mpatrick7860

  • @ivanthemadvandal8435
    @ivanthemadvandal8435 4 місяці тому +3

    I can kinda see putting the Victor on this list, but the Vulcan, are you kidding,? The Vulcan is a beauty
    I would like put the English Electric Lightning in place of the V-bombers

    • @tarmaque
      @tarmaque 3 місяці тому

      Are you kidding? The English Electric Lightning, in spite of its pregnant belly, is a gorgeous aircraft. Like a supermodel who's not afraid to do a photo shoot while with child.

  • @richardchapman1236
    @richardchapman1236 4 місяці тому +5

    Ward, thanks for recognizing that the A7E Corsair II had the first HUD in a Navy combat aircraft. 1970. Awesome technology considering 54 years ago. To me it was a great and awesome looking airplane. I was very fortunate and proud to have flown it in combat. Westpac 70/71 USS Ranger CVA61. It could carry more fuel and ordinance than it weighed empty. It also had a turbo fan Allison TF41 that had very long loiter time. I flew it non stop, no inflight refueling or drop tanks, Lemoore CA to McGuire AFB NJ, formation with another A7E with a drop tank.

  • @MattThornton87
    @MattThornton87 4 місяці тому +8

    Well that's the special relationship out of the window... with our beautiful V Bombers on the ugly list 😂🇬🇧! Great video mooch, keep up the superb work with the channel content. Best wishes Avro Vulcan 😉

  • @Sundancer268
    @Sundancer268 4 місяці тому +4

    I served on the USS Hancock CVA-19 and left for Shore Duty six months before de-commissioning.

  • @turnagec
    @turnagec 4 місяці тому +8

    Fun episode! I love the British Vulcan though!

  • @Chiller11
    @Chiller11 4 місяці тому +16

    I appreciate that this channel doesn’t use completely illogical opinion to reach its ridiculous conclusions. Rather it goes to extreme lengths to utilize only subjective illogical data plus MATH to calculate its way to its ridiculous conclusions. That is, indeed, Science!

  • @ypaulbrown
    @ypaulbrown 4 місяці тому +7

    them boys at Pawtauxent and Edwards must have really wondered when those planes showed up...
    not to mention the chaps at the NASA wind tunnel in Cleveland at Lewis....
    thanks Ward......you never cease to amaze......Paul in Florida

  • @danmiller7079
    @danmiller7079 4 місяці тому +2

    Being just a grunt, I was always told by our flights op Lt. that the F-4 phantom was known as the ugliest plane but it could kick ass (post gun installation). I still love to hear that characteristic whine of those engines. Great channel, Mooch!

  • @hernzo9798
    @hernzo9798 4 місяці тому +5

    Well I learnt something new today never knew the a-10s round jackets go back in the plane

    • @stretch3281
      @stretch3281 4 місяці тому +2

      They have to, there weight keeps the center of gravity under control.

    • @hernzo9798
      @hernzo9798 4 місяці тому

      @@stretch3281 k thought it was an environmental aspect to it 😂

  • @thomasgoodwin2648
    @thomasgoodwin2648 4 місяці тому +6

    Missing: The Convair XFY-1 Pogo and the F117 Wobbly Goblin errr... Stealth Fighter!
    What was it they used to call B-52s? Big Ugly Something Something?
    ✌😎👍
    PS. How can yall be hatin' on the Vulcan? Such a magnificent beast in the air and such a lovely singing voice to boot.

    • @WayneKitching
      @WayneKitching 4 місяці тому

      I think the Vulcan is much better looking than the Vulcan. The Victor looks badass, like the villains' plane in a 60s Sci-fi book.

    • @pyronuke4768
      @pyronuke4768 4 місяці тому +1

      Also missing: MiG-9, Yak-23, Su-17, and about half of Europe's domestic fighters form the 50's and 60's.

  • @Sometungsten
    @Sometungsten 4 місяці тому +4

    Some planes that are hard to admire... The Fairey Gannet and the Breguet Alize; both carrier borne turboprops from the cold war era. They both look like single engine planes, but the Gannet has two engines driving counter rotating props. Both are fat barrel shapes.

  • @gordonbergslien30
    @gordonbergslien30 4 місяці тому +2

    Had the opportunity to visit the SAC museum outside Omaha a few years ago. They had an XF-85 on display. Placing it near one of the most beautiful a/c ever, the B-58 Hustler, made it look even uglier! Great content as always, Commander!

  • @fenix2k1
    @fenix2k1 4 місяці тому +7

    Vulcan lumped in with the other V bombers and yet no BUFF?

    • @B-A-L
      @B-A-L 4 місяці тому

      He's American, what do you expect?

  • @pithicus52
    @pithicus52 4 місяці тому +3

    I wonder how many of the people who claimed that the A-6 is ugly ever actually got close to one.

  • @hughjass1044
    @hughjass1044 4 місяці тому +5

    This is exactly my kind of episode! Apart from being a military nerd, I'm also a car guy and while I appreciate all the types of cars that any car guy would, I also have an eye for the... how shall we say?.... less conventional designs.
    For example, some of my favorite models are the AMC Pacer, the Pontiac Aztec, the Exner Mopars, the Fiat Multipla, just about anything out of the former Eastern Bloc, the Renault Dauphine and so on. The weirder it looks, the better I like it.
    The A-10 was always one of my favorites but to that list, I'll be adding the X-32, which I'd seen before but sort of forgotten about but the new king... by a mile.... is that indescribably butt ugly... meaning absolutely gorgeous.... XF-85 Goblin!

    • @tarmaque
      @tarmaque 3 місяці тому +1

      Ha! My Dad had a Renault Dauphine when he was in high school in the 60's. His future father-in-law helped him rebuild the engine on a table in his garage. (My Grandfathers were friends) He talked about it for the rest of his life, even though he only had it for a year or so before he wadded it up taking a corner too fast.

  • @Markle2k
    @Markle2k 3 місяці тому +2

    The A-6 and A-7 are hard done by in the mission capability rankings. They were workhorses and got the job done. Plus, the A-6 looks downright elegant in planform view. Yes, I know you said “when you walk up to it in the hangar”, but it should get extra credit for that parting scene in the subscriber input flyby.

  • @wayneroyal3137
    @wayneroyal3137 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video!!!! I was smiling the whole time, I was surprised that the Cutless lasted as long as did. Awesome work

  • @jes2731
    @jes2731 4 місяці тому +3

    The A-6 only gets an 8 for capability? The Navy's one and only all weather low-level bomber that could carry up to 30, 500 lb general purpose bombs, skimming the tree tops at 50 feet, while screaming along at 500 mph in a thunderstorm. Hell, it could damned near carry it's own weight in fuel and ordinance. ...and YES, I'm biased to it. (VA-115 86-89') 😎

  • @jackryan152
    @jackryan152 4 місяці тому +4

    I need to go dig out my Thomas Dolby albums

  • @stephendecatur189
    @stephendecatur189 4 місяці тому +1

    "Handsome is as handsome does" is now quantifiable. (I knew I was waiting for something.) Thanks Ward.

  • @pg1171
    @pg1171 4 місяці тому

    Thank you so much Ward for doing this one, and the way that you did it! Great choices!

  • @stretch3281
    @stretch3281 4 місяці тому +14

    10:11 Vixen was a 2 seat naval fighter, what you ment to say was "valiant and yes it was ugly. There will be alot of upset Brits who love the Vulcan but personly I've allways loved the shape of the Victor. At least this was only about jets so the beautiful Gannet didn't get any more 💩 flung at it. Also the Vulcan scored hits on Portstanly runway and airfield during the Falklands war.

  • @georgesykes394
    @georgesykes394 4 місяці тому +4

    The A-6 Intruder is the 2nd most beautiful aircraft Grumman ever made after the Tomcat. Intruder strikes during the Vietnam War were often confused for B-52s. And let's not forget the Mighty A-6 did something the legacy Hornet never could carry over 9 tons of ordnance on a Combat sortie in excess of 600 NM without tanker support.

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 4 місяці тому +2

      You think the flying drumstick of death is beautiful?🍗

    • @georgesykes394
      @georgesykes394 4 місяці тому +2

      @WALTERBROADDUS Yes I do. It was a bad ass aircraft flown by men of the same caliber. One of those men was Admiral Jeremiah A. Denton DFC and Navy Cross recipient.

    • @hoghogwild
      @hoghogwild 4 місяці тому +1

      @@WALTERBROADDUS Was the A-6 a bad one? Particularly easy to bring down or were they accident prone?

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 4 місяці тому +1

      @@hoghogwild I would say the A6 was a good aircraft. It just wasn't particularly pretty.🍗

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 4 місяці тому +1

      @@georgesykes394 I think it's a highly functional and versatile performing aircraft. But it still looks like a flying drumstick.🍗😏

  • @JBK647
    @JBK647 4 місяці тому

    Great one, really enjoyed this vid.

  • @walterbordett2023
    @walterbordett2023 4 місяці тому +1

    Wink," there are lies, damn lies and then there are statistics. " Great vid Ward.

  • @colinritchie1757
    @colinritchie1757 4 місяці тому +5

    The 3rd V bombers is the Valiant

  • @timsparks7049
    @timsparks7049 4 місяці тому +5

    I loved KC's rather cheeky comment that they could hang AIM-9 Sidewinders on the Wart Hog. My question is, given its low and slow profile of the Hog
    did they hang the Sidewinder facing backwards?
    I think you got it right, Science rules!!!!!

  • @griffithberserk1367
    @griffithberserk1367 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for this entertaining and informative video. Never heard of the Goblin before, crazy stuff :D

  • @pjingham11
    @pjingham11 4 місяці тому

    Just another reason I love this channel. That was great.

  • @vmpgsc
    @vmpgsc 4 місяці тому +4

    XF8U-3 Crusader III. Even worse of a design change than the A-7 IMHO.

  • @-007-2
    @-007-2 4 місяці тому +3

    The A10 Warthog is one of the most beautiful jets ever made. Top 10 for sure.

  • @geoffcampbell7846
    @geoffcampbell7846 4 місяці тому

    Brilliant! After a frustrating day, to sit down with a jackD and watch this brought a wide smile to my face. Cheers 🥃👋

  • @Salvadormtz619
    @Salvadormtz619 4 місяці тому

    I am a new subscriber... Awesome channel👍💯 Thank you for your service 🇺🇸

  • @goodfoot7926
    @goodfoot7926 4 місяці тому +3

    The A7 was used extensively in the ANG and some of them went to the ANG straight off the assembly line. The active Air Force did not like the A7

    • @mpatrick7860
      @mpatrick7860 4 місяці тому

      The active USAF didn't even like the A10 either. Never understood that.

  • @smgdfcmfah
    @smgdfcmfah 4 місяці тому +4

    How can the BAE Lightning not make this list? The thing looks like a pregnant fish. The wings look like it was designed using Lego from the 70s before they made triangle parts. The wings also look as though they were just glued to the fuselage as an afterthought. Even the over/under twin engines make it look ludicrous from head on while the MiG-21 style nose intake looks like crap on any aircraft.

    • @jackaubrey8614
      @jackaubrey8614 4 місяці тому

      ...says your guide dog....

    • @smgdfcmfah
      @smgdfcmfah 4 місяці тому

      @@jackaubrey8614 Lol. Says the Brit fanboy that thinks it's the greatest plane ever made? Obviously it's all opinion, and admittedly they were pretty badass in their day and greatly underrated on most lists, but ever since I was a kid and had a model kit of one I've know that they were ALL function over form. I honestly didn't think it was a real plane when I first saw the kit because it looked so fckn' stupid! (it was the '70s when I got the kit and I'd never seen a picture - the racks on TOP of the wings were the icing on the cake!). There is literally NO angle that aircraft looks good from!

    • @pyronuke4768
      @pyronuke4768 4 місяці тому

      I feel like about half of these didn't belong here. The F-93, the Yak-38, the A-7, and the A-10 all have slightly off proportions but they still look like planes should. And with only three (technically five) foreign planes making the list when there are so many European and Soviet planes available to choose from that look arguably worse. And going out on a limb here, but I think the X-32 looks more goofy than it does ugly.

    • @geographyinaction7814
      @geographyinaction7814 2 місяці тому

      Lightning is gorgeous, especially without the auxiliary fuel belly-tank.

  • @briangriffiths114
    @briangriffiths114 4 місяці тому

    You always have some truly impressive guests on this channel!
    Col Campbell's achievement in piloting her damaged A-10 using manual reversion is legendary.

  • @rjsoldani19
    @rjsoldani19 4 місяці тому

    Love the mkV 25 in the corner Ward, great vid!

  • @ericmiddleton8367
    @ericmiddleton8367 4 місяці тому +34

    Valiant, not vixen

    • @danlewellyn6734
      @danlewellyn6734 4 місяці тому +2

      The Sea Vixen was pretty damn ugly.

    • @charlesmoss8119
      @charlesmoss8119 4 місяці тому +2

      The vixen was terrifying - I knew two people completely separated whose lives had been altered - one ejected during service and was injured - the other’s father was killed. But I always thought it sort of looked ok

    • @peterfinucane8122
      @peterfinucane8122 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@charlesmoss8119 The offset canopy looks strange. But the Sea Vixen looks great in flight.

    • @mytmousemalibu
      @mytmousemalibu 4 місяці тому +1

      The Valiant & Vulcan are pretty imo. The Victor is pretty bad though

    • @ericmiddleton8367
      @ericmiddleton8367 4 місяці тому

      @@danlewellyn6734 - she was not!

  • @BadAssWartHog-A10
    @BadAssWartHog-A10 4 місяці тому +3

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

    • @jimb9063
      @jimb9063 4 місяці тому

      Absolutely true....
      Just noticed your name though. I guess??!

  • @tomstoffer2963
    @tomstoffer2963 4 місяці тому

    Great episode!

  • @cremsen1
    @cremsen1 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for doing this mooch!

  • @philippatek3928
    @philippatek3928 4 місяці тому +3

    Marine here - I was so glad the AV8B wasn’t on here 🤣

    • @SkyhawkSteve
      @SkyhawkSteve 4 місяці тому

      Another Marine here... the Harrier II isn't bad, but the TA-V8A was an aircraft with some odd proportions. I guess most folks just aren't familiar with it?

  • @williamcrane8236
    @williamcrane8236 4 місяці тому +4

    Want the Stratfire three plane that couldn't sit down the F6F target drone? Pretty much shooting shotguns at bumble bees so I can see the failure but infamy must be honored.

    • @1930Granada
      @1930Granada 4 місяці тому

      I think those were F-89 Scorpions out of what's now Camarillo Airport

  • @kennethavesato3883
    @kennethavesato3883 3 місяці тому

    Enjoyed it dude 😊

  • @drgonzo305
    @drgonzo305 4 місяці тому +1

    Looking straight down from the above the F-32 looks pretty cool, the design has been growing on me.

    • @pyronuke4768
      @pyronuke4768 4 місяці тому

      To me, the X-32 looks more goofy than it does ugly, and it's appearance has been so memed to death by this point it feels like low-hanging fruit.

  • @abrahamdozer6273
    @abrahamdozer6273 4 місяці тому +8

    The DeHavilland Vampire deserves an ugliness mention although they were easy to fly, apparently and nearly 3300 of them were built.

    • @lightwoven5326
      @lightwoven5326 4 місяці тому

      Also killers of their pilots. You can tell a vampire pilot in old photos as they have a diving knife on their thigh.
      This was because of compression causing the Life raft to explosively discharge between the pilots legs causing the stick to be pushed forward with the result of causing the aircraft to nosedive into the ground!

  • @rickwilliamson9248
    @rickwilliamson9248 4 місяці тому +4

    GREAT list Ward, but I think the A-6 Crusader, A-7 Corsair and A-10 Thunderbolt II got shortchanged on their mission-capability ratings. Their decades of service alone - not to mention weapons load - should have given them a 10.
    And I guarantee the troops on the ground thought they were beautiful when they arrived on scene for CAS.

  • @ryankc3631
    @ryankc3631 3 місяці тому +1

    The A-10 is an absolute work of art.

  • @richhoffman3218
    @richhoffman3218 4 місяці тому

    Great job Mooch! You can't find entertainment like this anywhere else!

  • @hololightful
    @hololightful 4 місяці тому +8

    I don't think the A-10 is ugly at all... The opposite in fact!

  • @deanperkins2091
    @deanperkins2091 4 місяці тому +3

    The A-10s Ugliness score is tragic, but the mooch has spoken

  • @evan6901
    @evan6901 4 місяці тому

    You’re breaking my heart with a couple of these, I’ve never been accused of having good taste though. I Love your channel Sir, the information you deliver is always on point and always your experience is appreciated and respected. God bless you brother.

  • @petestorz172
    @petestorz172 4 місяці тому +2

    The A-6 was a pretty flexible aircraft, with the electronic warfare variant, EA-6 and the tanker variant, KA-6. The A-10A's head-up display had a great official name, the Projection Unit, PU for short. If the PU electronics suffered a failure or power loss, it had a targeting system powered by the aircraft's 28V power. The PU's night filter was very simple, a red cellophane "curtain" that was pulled over the top of the optics.

  • @natron1973
    @natron1973 4 місяці тому +2

    I absolutely love it! Great video… I was a grape on the Wasp from 93 to 94. Go Navy! I live just outside Toledo, Ohio. The 180th Ohio air national guard visits us daily. They previously flew the A-7, so a part of me was like “hey man, don’t pick on those guys. They’re pretty cool.”😂 but you made great points, and I’m happy with their scientific placement.

    • @rayclark474
      @rayclark474 4 місяці тому

      Jarhead PC on the A4. A few miles south in Kenton.

  • @nealdaleyjr7625
    @nealdaleyjr7625 4 місяці тому +1

    I always loved the A7 intake.

  • @richardmorgan3974
    @richardmorgan3974 4 місяці тому

    This rocks!!! I learned a few things, too!!! THANK YOU!

  • @alaingabriel1710
    @alaingabriel1710 4 місяці тому

    I visited the Udvar-Hazy Center (in Virginia near the Dulles airport) many years ago and got to see a SAAB Tunnan up close while in there. The tour guide told us that it was the only plane in their collection which had a bullet hole in it. It had come from a bar just outside the center, where a barroom fight had resulted in a gun being fired in the direction of the museum. I thought that up close the Tunnan was kind of cute.

  • @learnmore6474
    @learnmore6474 4 місяці тому

    First time I ever smiled ear to ear in a 17:18 math class. I think the Swiss to stick with banks and watches. Super Job on this video. Now it’s time to get back to breakfast for the kids and the second book in the trilogy, Punks’s Wing. Keep on & smile on!

  • @josephforrest3713
    @josephforrest3713 4 місяці тому +1

    The X32 actually looked awesome from the top...But from the front... YIKES lol.

  • @Twhyte96
    @Twhyte96 4 місяці тому +1

    Would love an inverse list just like this based on the most beautiful military aircraft

  • @pekkasimula8535
    @pekkasimula8535 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for an informative and also funny episode 😊
    In my mind, PZL TS-11 Iskra - of the proud Polish design - would definitely earn its' posiition in the ranking. Particularly so, when viewed as sitting on the ground.

  • @BodhiSoftMobileApps
    @BodhiSoftMobileApps 4 місяці тому

    The Phantom is a special, brutal, menacing kind of ugly that is just beautiful. It oozes "death from above."

  • @HughHarding46
    @HughHarding46 4 місяці тому

    Ward, thank you for including shots of VA-12 (A-7) and VA-65 (A-6), both in CAW7 on the IKE. You also could have included the Avro CF-100 Canuck. I think it was called the THUD because of the noise it made when the nose wheel retracted.

  • @chrissakal532
    @chrissakal532 4 місяці тому

    The picture of the crashed Cutlass that you show was taken in Ardmore, Oklahoma. Before it was reactivated as an Air Force Base (the very first to get the C-130), Vought would truck their prototypes up from Dallas and test fly them in Oklahoma. If I remember right, that one cartwheeled on landing.

  • @mikebridges20
    @mikebridges20 4 місяці тому +1

    One more thing about the X-32: to get it to be able to lift off vertically, they had to remove the landing gear actuators and bolt the landing gear down, plus remove the air inlet to lower the weight enough to get enough thrust to lift off the ground.