This planner is excellent! I cannot believe it is not more talked about by the developers. I didn't know it existed and I've been flying '24 since day one! ...erm... two, well at least three....
I was lucky. I completed a flight on day one. Had some troubles later that first day, but not since. And yes, this planner is great. It's not Navigraph, but it's very good.
Well, Navigraph has far better and more comprehensive map data and charts. When flying in Europe, the in-game solution doesn't have airspaces specific to France or Germany (RMZ). Also, Navigraph has much more types of forbidden airspaces (noise abatement, etc). Finally, in-game misses a lot of frequencies in VFR-centric airports. Yes, it's much better than before and it's free but Navigraph remains very relevant.
@@saschpeSorry, I do not agree. The default Lido charts, included for free, are way better than the Navigraph's Jeppesen charts, especially for flying around Europe. And Navigraph charts are sometimes quite outdated.
Mark, what the hell would we do without you?! Honestly. I think I would still be trying to configure my alpha flight yoke in 2020 without your help. Keep up the great work pls. 👍
I found this almost 2 weeks ago and I haven't looked back. It works pretty well. I like the ability to see the recommended departure and arrival runways based on current weather. I usually fly the SF50 Vision Jet and it seems to work fine when sending the saved plan to avionics.
Let me tell you something… YOU ARE MY HERO!!!! Yesterday I was just thinking about how awesome it would be to be able to do this on my actual IPAD instead of what’s on the game its self, thought about buying Navigraph again…
Excellent little tool. Be interesting to see if Navigraph will be able to integrate well with the EFB. Although NG charts are much better, I can see them losing many of their subscribers!
I think this WILL BE a Navigraph replace... Navigraph team will have to run faster if they want to sell their products again in the future... I hope that a precise fuel calculation will be implemented soon with the possibility to load personal aircraft profiles.
Hmm not too sure. I enjoy having the charts at full screen(2nd monitor) and VFR maps which make for interesting flght detail. But I do understand what you are saying for some people.
"In the old days", when the functionality of products was implemented in hardware, there was usually a user's handbook which was provided by the manufacturer. Nowadays' the vast majority of the functionality is effected by software and has grown exponentially in relation to the hardware component. Counter-intuitively, software developers have mainly decided not to provide a users' functionality handbook and the hapless purchases is expected to find and absorb the necessary information by 'osmosis'. Documentation authoring is a very skilled activity which has requirements apparently incompatible with software development. So it is never properly considered and we users are left floundering in the information abyss. Thank goodness for YT and people like SimHanger without whose knowledge we would be lost.
@@TWOKDOK1 Indeed. I'm 50 and can remember when you even got a big chunky walkthrough book on a Sega Megadrive role playing game called Phantasy Star II. Back in the days when a game was on a cartridge and loaded instantly the moment you turned it on. When I fire up MSFS2024 I have to go and have a bath, do some housework, have dinner and come back to find it's at 93% loading languages, lol.
Thanks for this excellent video. I have dragged the EFB to a second monitor but it does not update the plane’s progress as the flight proceeds. It would be nice to have that capability rather than having to bring up and re-position the EFB on the main display.
Mark...another terrific video. Thanks! I was wondering....do you record you video first, then read from a written script to narrate in post? You never seem to stumble on your words...so it got me wondering. By the way...I gave you a shout out in one of my own recent vids :)
Sweet. I will still use Simbrief and Navigraph, but I always have to recreate it in the sim as I use Xbox. This planner will help get the exact flight to the sim. Great!!!
I plan to flight from JFK to the middle of Long Island and they sent me out to norway. They had to be 65 different waypoints. Other than the two that took me across the Atlantic and back they were all 5 me apart. Using anything with the word Auto is a mistake.
Do the charts display your aircraft's position, so you can see exactly where you are, whether on the tarmac at an airport, on a departure, enroute, on an arrival and on an approach? "Moving maps", I think Navigraph calls the feature.
Given that this is from MS (working title) it will always be a work in progress with questionable results. I tried a simple flight from PHX to LAX and the route had a backtrack of over 100 miles from departure to an overly long arrival.
Every flightplanner lives from his navdata. With Navigraph we have each month the newest airac which brings a lot of changes. What is the quality of the navdata in the flight planner and in msfs 2024?
Off Topic but still: I see you are using the TBM 930. Did you find a way of binding the RIGHT HAND SIDE (LO IDLE, HI IDLE) of the throttle to any axis or button or are you clicking it with the mouse ? No matter what I do, I cant figure this one out, neither with MSFS2024 nor with SPAD.
I have not been able to try 2024 yet due to shoulder surgery. Will this replace Navigraph and simbrief, or will I still need those for full briefings and charts?
A very informative and welcome video thank you. Apologies to digress, but on another topic, do you happen to know why the download of MSFS 2024 seems to be 11.9 GB instead of the expected 50 GB as expected? Thank you in advance. Andy.
@@SimHangerFS Hi Mark, I actually have the aviator addition. I’ve also noticed that many other people throughout the community have the same 11.9 GB download. All seems to work well for me, and everything including the aviator package seems to be streamed. So I’m just wondering if 11.9 GB is some kind of base package and everything else is streamed possibly? It would certainly seem that not many people have the 50 GB as advertised. I’m just wondering if this will change at some point?
The web-based Flight Planner was easy to use. I setup a few flight plans and save them. However, I am having difficulty of loading (using the top left button in the XBOX EFB) a flight plan I saved via FS Flight Planner software. When I select a flight plan (i.e., "LOAD" button), the button text was changed to "LOADING" but its stuck at LOADING and going nowhere. While the button shows "LOADING", if I click a button to send it to ATC or AVIONIVCS, only the departure airport is display in ROUTE. Does anyone have the same/similar problem? and if does (did), what is the fix? Thanks, John
Hi Mark, I have used the flight planner. I assumed the arrow icon in the bottom corner was to live track your aircraft on the plan but it doesn't do this (on Xbox). I cant see what else that arrow does?
I NEED HELP WITH THIS! Even choosing Low IFR, the planner is giving me altitudes of over 20,000ft for a Cessna 172. How can we change the given altitudes?
@SimHangerFS Hi and thanks for for your response. I tried this. I set my knots to 100 and cruising altitude to 6000ft. On pressing auto select for the 'route' it still gives me altitudes of up to 20,000ft. I've tried everything....
@@woodyw9798 Simbrief is completely free to use for flight planning and is far more comprehensive than the fs flight planner at the moment. The main reason I'm still using Simbrief is that it will calculate all the necessary fuel requirements for the flights, whereas fs flight planner doesn't, although I think that it is planned at some point. The main benefit for fs flight planner is that you have access to the charts in sim, which is a big bonus, if like me, you don't have a Navigraph account.
Send Route to Avionics works well with the Garmins (G430, G530, G3X-Touch, G1000, G3000). I am not sure if v2 of the above is needed, but I think so. Btw, great video showing what is possible with the flightplanner and the EFB 👍
The easiest way to enjoy MSFS and stay within aeronautic rules is to fly GA VFR. Al you need to do is nominate the Destination Airfield. This represents the telephone call to arrange Prior Permission ( PPR ). In the Sim, there is no need to go on the destination website and pay landing fees by PayPal. When an arrival time is agreed ( in the Sim, it's 'Whenever' ), the flight is in G airspace so no plan needs to be filed. If there is A airspace, fly over or around. This is because the Sim doesn't know 'Zone Transit' requests. The route taken from departure to arrival can be anywhere, as long as the arrival time is honoured. Give an extra hour so some sightseeing can be done. This is the method REAL sightseeing aeroplane tours work. What has to remembered is Salisbury Plain Military Area has a Gnd to 60,000ft No Fly Zone.
This planner is excellent! I cannot believe it is not more talked about by the developers. I didn't know it existed and I've been flying '24 since day one! ...erm... two, well at least three....
😂
I was lucky. I completed a flight on day one. Had some troubles later that first day, but not since.
And yes, this planner is great. It's not Navigraph, but it's very good.
Who needs navigraph with this free excellent planner
Well, Navigraph has far better and more comprehensive map data and charts. When flying in Europe, the in-game solution doesn't have airspaces specific to France or Germany (RMZ). Also, Navigraph has much more types of forbidden airspaces (noise abatement, etc). Finally, in-game misses a lot of frequencies in VFR-centric airports. Yes, it's much better than before and it's free but Navigraph remains very relevant.
I do! But my daughter has only just started flight simulation and it would be great for her to use as a free flight planning tool.
@@saschpeSorry, I do not agree. The default Lido charts, included for free, are way better than the Navigraph's Jeppesen charts, especially for flying around Europe. And Navigraph charts are sometimes quite outdated.
Mark, what the hell would we do without you?! Honestly. I think I would still be trying to configure my alpha flight yoke in 2020 without your help. Keep up the great work pls. 👍
Wow, thanks!
I agree wholeheartedly!! “All Hail 👑 Mark”
Funny, that's how I found him too and now he's one of my most trusted sources for MSFS info.
What a nice surprise! Thank you very much for sharing this with the community!
Thanks Mark, I had over-looked this one! 😃
@@Huddison Thank you James !
Thanks again Mark. Followed your advice and got this working nicely in my newly purchased MS2024 today. Easy when you know how. 🙂
Great video, I just learned about the flight planner yesterday, trying to find as many videos as I can to learn about it. Many thanks!
I found this almost 2 weeks ago and I haven't looked back. It works pretty well. I like the ability to see the recommended departure and arrival runways based on current weather. I usually fly the SF50 Vision Jet and it seems to work fine when sending the saved plan to avionics.
Thanks, I’ll give the VJ a try.
@@SimHangerFS I bought the VJ as a 3rd party add-on in MSFS2020; Now its included in the 2024 SIM. A great addition and fun to fly.
Thanks - got it to work with my Xbox S. The REAL miracle was that I remembered the password for my account 😂
Wow that's amazing! Hopefully they fix the bugs and expand it in the future.
Such a game changer for every Xbox pilot. A big thanks to Working Title to make it happen. ❤
Couldn't agree more!
Absolutely! I'll not be in MSFS2024 for a few weeks but this looks like it'll make a huge difference.
Another great video. Thanks Mark. You have a way of explaining things so that they make sense. 😊
A great vid again and indeed how can the developers not talk about this more!!! Cheers!
Let me tell you something… YOU ARE MY HERO!!!! Yesterday I was just thinking about how awesome it would be to be able to do this on my actual IPAD instead of what’s on the game its self, thought about buying Navigraph again…
Wow great video Mark. I wish this would work with 2020 lol haven’t bought 2024 yet still waiting them to get the bugs out before I purchase.
Don't buy it !! That's one less streamer to occupy my cloud...😂😂😂
Thanks for covering this. i was lost on it!!
Great and informative video. Thankyou
I did not know about this. Thank you
Excellent little tool. Be interesting to see if Navigraph will be able to integrate well with the EFB. Although NG charts are much better, I can see them losing many of their subscribers!
This is so cool!
Thanks mate, I'm going to try this as I havent been able to get any aircraft to follow a flight plan yet.
i think i’ll still use simbrief for filing flight plans but this will be very nice for planning them.
I think this WILL BE a Navigraph replace... Navigraph team will have to run faster if they want to sell their products again in the future... I hope that a precise fuel calculation will be implemented soon with the possibility to load personal aircraft profiles.
Yea...I would imagine they are less than excited at this point. Ouch.
Hmm not too sure. I enjoy having the charts at full screen(2nd monitor) and VFR maps which make for interesting flght detail. But I do understand what you are saying for some people.
Not for me. Fenix requires Navigraph Navdata.
@ Fenix?
Be nice once it shows your location on the magenta route line. I gather Microsoft are working on this(?).
Fingers crossed!
Incredible.
This is by far the best feature of MSFS 2024.
Specially for X-Box users! 👍
I feel like Microsoft need to supply an encyclopaedia with this game to tell you everything that's going on. If it wasn't for YT I would be lost
"In the old days", when the functionality of products was implemented in hardware, there was usually a user's handbook which was provided by the manufacturer. Nowadays' the vast majority of the functionality is effected by software and has grown exponentially in relation to the hardware component. Counter-intuitively, software developers have mainly decided not to provide a users' functionality handbook and the hapless purchases is expected to find and absorb the necessary information by 'osmosis'. Documentation authoring is a very skilled activity which has requirements apparently incompatible with software development. So it is never properly considered and we users are left floundering in the information abyss. Thank goodness for YT and people like SimHanger without whose knowledge we would be lost.
@@TWOKDOK1 Indeed. I'm 50 and can remember when you even got a big chunky walkthrough book on a Sega Megadrive role playing game called Phantasy Star II. Back in the days when a game was on a cartridge and loaded instantly the moment you turned it on. When I fire up MSFS2024 I have to go and have a bath, do some housework, have dinner and come back to find it's at 93% loading languages, lol.
Thanks for this excellent video. I have dragged the EFB to a second monitor but it does not update the plane’s progress as the flight proceeds. It would be nice to have that capability rather than having to bring up and re-position the EFB on the main display.
Yes, I tried that too. Hopefully in the future.
Thats one of the reasons why I've kept my Navigraph subscription
Mark...another terrific video. Thanks! I was wondering....do you record you video first, then read from a written script to narrate in post? You never seem to stumble on your words...so it got me wondering. By the way...I gave you a shout out in one of my own recent vids :)
Thx & Nice 2 c your solution...my set 4 2-engine-airliners is classic yoke & quadrant velocity flight one, allo functins are fully operational
Thank you very much Sir 🙌🫶 you saved my day ❤
Thanks a Bunch!!!
Thanks Mark
Sweet. I will still use Simbrief and Navigraph, but I always have to recreate it in the sim as I use Xbox. This planner will help get the exact flight to the sim. Great!!!
I plan to flight from JFK to the middle of Long Island and they sent me out to norway. They had to be 65 different waypoints. Other than the two that took me across the Atlantic and back they were all 5 me apart. Using anything with the word Auto is a mistake.
Do the charts display your aircraft's position, so you can see exactly where you are, whether on the tarmac at an airport, on a departure, enroute, on an arrival and on an approach? "Moving maps", I think Navigraph calls the feature.
Not at this time.
Given that this is from MS (working title) it will always be a work in progress with questionable results. I tried a simple flight from PHX to LAX and the route had a backtrack of over 100 miles from departure to an overly long arrival.
Does this work on xbox, thanks for all your awesome videos mark
Yes it does, as detailed at the end of the video
Do you know if there is a possibility to update the airac cycle? I noticed that the IFR route chart is out of date.
Every flightplanner lives from his navdata. With Navigraph we have each month the newest airac which brings a lot of changes. What is the quality of the navdata in the flight planner and in msfs 2024?
@@clearsky45 this is no Navigraph, but one to keep your eye on.
Mark all installed looks great quick question when you log into the sim next time how do you access this planner??
Load from your EFB (tab)
Hopefully this works with Xbox flights as well.
Load flight plan in the EFB is not selectable in career mode missions.
it doesn't seem to work with the inibuilds Airbus A321, or am I doing something wrong?
Off Topic but still: I see you are using the TBM 930. Did you find a way of binding the RIGHT HAND SIDE (LO IDLE, HI IDLE) of the throttle to any axis or button or are you clicking it with the mouse ? No matter what I do, I cant figure this one out, neither with MSFS2024 nor with SPAD.
I have not been able to try 2024 yet due to shoulder surgery.
Will this replace Navigraph and simbrief, or will I still need those for full briefings and charts?
Right now Navigraph beats this in numerous ways, but will be interesting to see how it develops.
How recent is the nav database it is using ? Is there any way to tell ?
Seems to crash to desktop when I load into ATC
A very informative and welcome video thank you. Apologies to digress, but on another topic, do you happen to know why the download of MSFS 2024 seems to be 11.9 GB instead of the expected 50 GB as expected? Thank you in advance. Andy.
The download I think was around 21GB. 11.9 sounds too small, but I do have the Delux Premium edition so it may depend on your version.
@@Andrew-t1l9y if it is working great then all is good 👍
@@SimHangerFS Hi Mark, I actually have the aviator addition. I’ve also noticed that many other people throughout the community have the same 11.9 GB download. All seems to work well for me, and everything including the aviator package seems to be streamed. So I’m just wondering if 11.9 GB is some kind of base package and everything else is streamed possibly? It would certainly seem that not many people have the 50 GB as advertised. I’m just wondering if this will change at some point?
@@SimHangerFSthanks Mark appreciated
dos it work in missions,? Can not get it to work in missions
The web-based Flight Planner was easy to use. I setup a few flight plans and save them.
However, I am having difficulty of loading (using the top left button in the XBOX EFB) a flight plan I saved via FS Flight Planner software.
When I select a flight plan (i.e., "LOAD" button), the button text was changed to "LOADING" but its stuck at LOADING and going nowhere.
While the button shows "LOADING", if I click a button to send it to ATC or AVIONIVCS, only the departure airport is display in ROUTE.
Does anyone have the same/similar problem? and if does (did), what is the fix?
Thanks,
John
@@johnpyo8286 no I haven’t had this issue. Try log out and back in again, may be something to do with accessing the cloud?
Hi Mark, I have used the flight planner. I assumed the arrow icon in the bottom corner was to live track your aircraft on the plan but it doesn't do this (on Xbox). I cant see what else that arrow does?
Not functional as far as I can ascertain at the moment.
I NEED HELP WITH THIS! Even choosing Low IFR, the planner is giving me altitudes of over 20,000ft for a Cessna 172. How can we change the given altitudes?
Set your desired altitude manually. Its at the top
@SimHangerFS Hi and thanks for for your response. I tried this. I set my knots to 100 and cruising altitude to 6000ft. On pressing auto select for the 'route' it still gives me altitudes of up to 20,000ft.
I've tried everything....
I also tried setting routes manually (which doesn't assign altitudes), but on selecting a STAR, it will often choose about 17,000ft.
Do you know if the Nav Data Base is updated at each Airac cycle?
I don’t know. No info from WT on this yet.
Thanks a lot for your response. I hope it.
How do I start at the gate and not the runway?
@@ramulus84 pick a parking position on the map
@ on the map in game or in the flight planner?? Thanks for the quick response!
Does this work with 3rd party aircraft like Fenix A320?
Still to be tested.
A better and more accurate and complete option is Simbrief Dispatch (PC only) also free and integrated right in the 2024 EFB .
What makes it 'more accurate and complete' if you don't want to purchase a navigraph account?
@@woodyw9798 Simbrief is completely free to use for flight planning and is far more comprehensive than the fs flight planner at the moment. The main reason I'm still using Simbrief is that it will calculate all the necessary fuel requirements for the flights, whereas fs flight planner doesn't, although I think that it is planned at some point. The main benefit for fs flight planner is that you have access to the charts in sim, which is a big bonus, if like me, you don't have a Navigraph account.
How did you find this link? Is it somewhere in the sim but not easy to find?
No the link was given during a development update from WT
Have to know average fuel burn first, to get amount needed😂 wrong
Good point, hadn't considered this, but hey, we gotta to something besides just fly, don't we?
Send Route to Avionics works well with the Garmins (G430, G530, G3X-Touch, G1000, G3000).
I am not sure if v2 of the above is needed, but I think so.
Btw, great video showing what is possible with the flightplanner and the EFB 👍
The easiest way to enjoy MSFS and stay within aeronautic rules is to fly GA VFR.
Al you need to do is nominate the Destination Airfield. This represents the telephone call to arrange Prior Permission ( PPR ).
In the Sim, there is no need to go on the destination website and pay landing fees by PayPal.
When an arrival time is agreed ( in the Sim, it's 'Whenever' ), the flight is in G airspace so no plan needs to be filed.
If there is A airspace, fly over or around. This is because the Sim doesn't know 'Zone Transit' requests.
The route taken from departure to arrival can be anywhere, as long as the arrival time is honoured.
Give an extra hour so some sightseeing can be done. This is the method REAL sightseeing aeroplane tours work.
What has to remembered is Salisbury Plain Military Area has a Gnd to 60,000ft No Fly Zone.
Maybe we can get a video how to do it on Xbox just incase some people are having trouble. Keep up the good work. Your videos help me alot
No need. Just make a plan and save it. It will show up in FS24 on your XBox.