German Tool Reviews: Wera 8100 SA 2 (Zyklop 1/4" Premium Socket Set)
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- Опубліковано 22 жов 2016
- A review of the premium version of Wera's 1/4" drive Zyklop socket set. This is very similar to the 8100 SA 7 set that was previously reviewed, but has lots of additional accessories.
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To release a socket in the zero degree position simply press the head lock forward, as done to rotate the head, and this will push the socket release button
I also have this ratchet and was going to make this comment but you beat me to it! I am watching this almost 4 years later so there's that lol.
The tray is removable so it can be put in a toolbox drawer. That’s a great option. It can be glued down by anyone that wants to.
Very nice set. Love the attention to detail in the video.
your tool reviews are one of the best on all youtube. straight to the point, no yadda yadda,no bullshit; just simple clean and professional reviews. subscribed! regarding taiwan made: I have Connex sockets which are also made in taiwan. They are of excellent quality for the price they cost (3-7euros). Also my 1\2 and 1\4 cheapo wrenches (HM Mueller) are made in taiwan and do a great job. in fact they have finer gearing (sp?) than most european made wrenches. 2 years of heavy usage, no sign of damages (yet)
Thanks for the kind words, I really do appreciate them. Yes, there are some good tools coming out of Taiwan, their quality seems to be getting better with time. Proxxon, which is a favorite among many people in Europe, is a German company that makes most of their tools in Taiwan.
Good review for you to do would be the STAHLWILLE 40/10/6 1/4" socket set - lovely quality , compact set -(nearly a work of art) Keep up the good work , really enjoy your videos :]
I hope to be getting some Stahlwille sockets sometime soon. I'm designing a tool bed foam tray to hold a complete 3/8" drive Stahlwille metric set.
I"ve got the 3/8" set in a soft-case , it"s @ 40% cheaper than the steel case option !!!!!! Look forward to that next review vid.........................
MSRP is $360, but in Europe on Amazon it’s $170. German tools much cheaper for us Europeans. We finally pay less for a product than you guys do.
Buy it for me and ship it👉👈I’d pay.
@@EAGLINWRX i can
3:18 you can change the sockets when its in the zero degree position just push the green button forward
Awesome set!
I really like your reviews and content
Thanks, I appreciate you taking the time to comment!
I like that you go fast. Too many tool reviews hem and haw and mess around with side comments. I want info fast and don't have time to listen to cute filler supposed to make the material more palatable.
Charles Stokes 😆 word I agree! Though sometimes a little humor side talk involved is cool too. But not too much bullshit taking my focus off what I came here to learn/see braaah! Lol But German Tool reviews was awsome! Only guy out there dedicated to German hand tools which is my other half! I hope he makes his way back eventually...he has be missed!
not surprised that foam insert comes out because you can store the box and drop the foam organizer in a tool box
Yes, I had someone else (I think they worked for Wera) send me a message on facebook and told me this. I know as soon as I take it out of the case, then I will probably misplace that case and never see it again!
To anyone who likes tool reviews and shop talk you should check out mikes channel its pretty good
Nice review as usual.
Does anyone know of a bit ratchet with a swivel head like this?
Great video btw, keep up the great work 😉👍
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
Had the set for four years now with about daily use and the latches still work. Also you can push the lever in direction of the head used to unlock the head in when used in the 0° position to unlock the head
Thanks for the feedback, good to know it is holding up. Looks like I may have missed that one with the unlocking, I will check next time I get out the set. David's Music
Wera is a German company but they are made in Czech Republic, "... manual and power tool applications at its German headquarters and its factory in the Czech Republic." (wikipedia)
Das ist richtig, das ist ein großes Problem, aber wo gibt das dann noch, durch die Globalisierung, das viele Firmen dort Herstellen lassen wo sie nicht gegründet wurden.
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That's right, that's a big problem, but where else is that due to the globalization that many companies have left where they were not founded.
Steel cases most certainly are not more durable than plastic ones. Steel ones dent, deform, the paint chips, doesn't close properly after dented/dropped, the spot welds occasionally break, and it rusts. It also has to have a plastic/foam formed organizer inside, which gets ruined/broken. I was so happy when power tool manufacturers switched to plastic; they're so much more durable. We had so many loose tools that came in metal boxes that had to be recycled. Then you've got to find a new box for the tool and it's accessories.
I have recently changed my opinion on plastic cases after seeing one of Stahlwille's new ABS cases. They previously used all steel cases and their new cases are very nice. Look for a future review on a Stahlwille set.
Hi did you really tried the tool in work?
Good quality?
when in zero degree position push up on pivot button to remove or attach sockets.
Thank you
How is this ratchet working after five years, I wonder?
Also interesting that the price is still quite high after 5 years or that they haven't come up with something new in the meanwhile.
Do you ship to Vietnam and how much?
Hello, can you help me in choosing quality budget rachet set ?
Proxxon is not bad for a low price
Excellent review. Looks like an excellent tool set. Nevertheless parts are made in Taiwan, other parts in Czech republic - that doesnt mean anything bad for the quality, but as a German I´m a bit annoyed.
You are kinda like an expert - German tool review - is there anything on that tool set that is even made in Germany?
Or is it the planning at least?
Or is it just the brand name?
Wera is a German Brand, that is, it is a German Company. My general rule of thumb for tools I review are that they need to be from a German Brand and manufactured in the greater European Union. Wera does most of its manufacturing in the Czech republic, but does have some tools made in Germany. They also make some of their tools in the UK and in Poland. As far as this set, all the components are made in either the Czech Republic or Taiwan and then assembled in the Czech Republic.
It’s the thought that counts. 😆 I just picked up the 3/8 version of this set and really love it, but it is rather expensive at $250 on sale. I just wanted to have one around as I sort of collect hand tools and this set definitely has a coolness factor.
Liefern Sie nach Vietnam und wie viel?
What do you do for work to use all these high quality tools...
I do a lot of work with avionics/uav electronics. Probably could get by with cheaper tools but then it wouldn't be as fun!
Amazing
bellissimo..schön...wonderfull...charmant
Do you prefer the hard case or soft case?
The hard case unless I had to carry it around all day then I would probably prefer the soft case.
I've noticed a great deal of sockets are made in Taiwan. The quality seems very good to me, although I'm no mechanic. Do you have any insight as to why so many sockets are made in Taiwan?
No, I don't know why Wera and other companies choose Taiwan to manufacture their sockets. I know that there are many companies that choose Taiwan now over China such as Matco and Proxxon. From what I read, manufacturing in Taiwan is about 30% higher than China due to higher labor costs. One reason companies choose Taiwan over China is that they have very stringent IP/Patent laws so theft of designs and/or knockoffs are not as common as are seen in China.
German Tool Reviews i always prefer taiwan made over china made. usually a bit of a quality boost. plus id rather support taiwan than china. poor taiwan just wants china to leave them alone.
I've found that tools made in Taiwan are generally of better quality than those made in China. I have several sets of Sunex Impact sockets, made in Taiwan, that have seen plenty of use and are still in great shape, FWIW.
I've only just heard about Wera. Surprised to learn they are not made in Germany. How are the quality of products coming from the Czech Republic?
They used to have a factory in Wuppertal Germany but moved all production to the Czech republic some time ago. All the engineering/design work is still done in Germany. I have seen no issues with the stuff coming from their Czech Republic plant, always has been very high quality.
Nice review, I remember watching a documentary (i think on Vice) about American truck drivers working in Africa. One of the drivers had this kit sitting next to him in the mud when working on the truck. I think he used bananas as axel grease
I remember watching that documentary, but I don't remember seeing the toolkit, I'll have to go back and watch it again. I wonder whatever became of those UN Bulldozers that they delivered to South Sudan.
I dont think so, he was using one of those snap on swivel head ratchets not a wera one
good video, informative without any stupid music.
"you have to rotate the head to access the button "............I`m stunned .
Stunned he got this wrong? Or stunned you need to do this?
The switch you need to pull down to rotate the head can be pushed up when the head is at the 0 degrees position to release the sockets. So you don't need to rotate the head first.
Also, there isn't a 105 degree position, but an 85 degree. The 105 wouldn't make any sense since you would have very little room to maneuver the ratchet, whereas the 85 degree allows you to use the ratchet without hitting your knuckles against whatever it is you're ratcheting into.
Thankfully my Wera set was made in the EU (Czech Republic). I bought it when I was living in Germany. Half the cost of this, and better quality
Verynice
Great review. Absolutely rediculous price. Even at the current 200 dollar price point on amazon. Sheesh.
130€ on german amazon.
2:42 you are using it incorrectly, the slices are there to lock te pin, so the handle form a 90+ angle to the socket not 90-. Hope it helps.
I've got a similar set in a tough fabric pouch without the sliding bar, the cardan/universal join and 4 less sockets (wich are worth ~ 20-30$ and you normally already know) but longer bits and more of them for 65€. So yes, wera, hazet, facom... prices in the US are a scam as snap-on, MAC,... prices are a scam in Europe. So it's a great idea to take advantage of that if you travel or a related/fellow does.
It's a great all-around kit, you rarelly need something that isn't there and the quality is great.
Yeah I did miss some things about the speed ratchet. Hope to do a follow up video sometime with a 1/2" speed ratchet to correct my statements.
man so great tool how much the cost
Depending on where you get it, $200-300
German Tool Reviews I'm in Iraq I don't know if I can find it her ,, thanks man keep the good work
where please is the video in german ?
The sockets are really made in Taiwan??
Per the video, "sockets made in Taiwan." That's rather hard to swallow considering the price, and not what I would expect from a German brand. I have recently bought the Wera Kraftform screwdriver set and am very happy with it, but now I'm not so sure I will buy more of this brand.
What a childish argument. You’d most likely don’t even notice of not told.
Germany tools are the best quality and biutiful.gedore bether shokets.
Elora tools?
I have some vintage Elora stuff upcoming, never got anything new from them.
I have some of the newish stuff I haven't seen any tool reviews for there stuff in the UK its rather expensive and maybe a little too expensive, but I have the newish 1/2 Super-socket Master Set its a great set but I cant seem to find reviews for any of the other product's on offer by elora they fall under the draper brand in the UK and often cost 6x more than a draper expert tool.
I know you didn't mean anything by your commentary that "someone at WERA likes the Eagles"!
Sir, nothing, but NOTHING, can you negatively say about WERA, and/or the great musical band: The Eagles". Both brands are top-notch!
I feel bad dor you guys in the US. These cost like 160€ over here
I apologize if this question seems obtuse to you, but, alas, (except for Knipex) I know absolutely nothing about German hand tools. As keeping track of US made hand tools is already very time-consuming, I'd appreciate it very much if you would comment on the overall durability of German made tools, and I'd be particularly interested in knowing which German tool manufacturer makes the most durable socket sets ... and, of course, I'm only asking for your opinion ... I will not hold you to anything.
I hope to do a test on durability at some point. Will probably be a destructive test by putting a bunch of sockets in a rock tumbler or something for a couple of days. Just taking a guess it would be between Hazet and Gedore. Stahlwille makes good stuff, but they design them to be intentionally thinner and lighter.
These prices are fucking insane.
The speed ratchet is okay, but not nearly as well made as other zyklop ratchets. PB Swiss makes a much nicer, easier to use swivel head ratchet that I'd recommend over the speed ratchet
Made in Taiwaaaaaaan.
Germany is not Taiwan!
$60 ok .
$360 and the sockets are made in Taiwan? Fuck that.
The ads are great, but the product is absolutely useless. When I unscrewed the 12mm screw, the mechanism broke down and it doesn't work right now. I definitely do not recommend the Wera brand, it did not pay off for the product I paid for.
Sockets made in Taiwan.. And it cost that much!
As more as I see about Wera Tools as less I like them... Made or processed in Czech/Taiwan or China only... It's not I want if I consider to buy a German tool especially in this price range
Wera has nothing made in China, only Taiwan. So far only their sockets and the metal ratchets are made there. The engineering and quality control is still German, and that's what counts. Proxxon is a well-known quality tool brand and they have every hand tool made in Taiwan yet their QC only allows proper products for selling which led to them being repsected for their prices. Knipex's Rennsteig plant makes crimping pliers for Würth that is of even higher quality than made for Knipex itself, because Würth has better QC. As for the Czech Republic, you shouldn't have any fears, I buy most of my chemicals, electronics, and base material from them and the Polish, never had issues with them. Also the factory that makes these sets is Wera's own factory, not outsourcing like with the sockets for a Taiwanese local company. It is the same with here in Hungary, we have a Procter & Gamble production plant where the Oral B electric toothbrushes are made, they are made in Hungary yet many people use them because although it's Hungarian, it's P&G's own company. I have no issue in trusting Czech tools as long as a German QC is enforced over them. One example where this doesn't work is one of the Hungarian Bosch plants in Miskolc, the leadership there is a joke and Miskolc-made Bosch tools are quite rubbish due to their low QC, I would never buy a Bosch tool made there even though I'm Hungarian myself. Also you guys in America have import price problems, this exact set costs only 130 euros right now on the German Amazon, which is cheaper than a German-made Hazet or Gedore set. So yeah, here in Europe they aren't the best of the best, I have no idea how costs go that high for you. We get what we pay for. We can buy Snap-on sets for roughly 3 times the price for what you pay, it goes vice-versa, and I will never trust American tools until I tried them out as they actually have lots of tools made in China. Taiwan is slowly coming up as a proper production country, I know many Taiwanese tool brands and many of them are actually decent.
Taiwan quality is getting better and boy they make everything over there, their wages must be ripping society off, just my little rant...
$300 for a mostly Made in Taiwan set? Yikes. I can easily get a Made in USA set for less. My uncle told me there used to be a Hazet dealer nearby. The problem was that his prices were as high as Snap on and Snap on had a better distribution network and better customer service. That guy didn't stand a chance.
Hazet is like the Snap-on of Germany in that respect as their products are a little more expensive. Hazet has made their name providing very specialized automotive tools.
True plus Stahlwille are also known for this comparison as the "Snap-On of Europe" :]
German Tool Reviews Liefern Sie nach Vietnam und wie viel?
Price is absurd with no justification. High profit margin.
Веру больше никогда не куплю, качество плохое ...Купил 813 R Ручной держатель ESD 1/4" для насадок, немагнитная версия WERA 051273 отвратительное качество..
Really. Red to move the mic away from your mouth or get a better pop filter.
This ratchet has too many plastic parts for a set of this price.
Plus they're a German company and very little if any questions of this set is made in Germany ?
I'd not pay more than $50 for such a set and would only give $10 for the ratchet itself.
Starting at 2:05, you said that one of the German designers have a sense of humor. Sorry, but German engineers do NOT have a sense of humor.
You should slow WAY down when doing one of these reviews.
It is VERY difficult to comprehend what you are saying.
For whatever it's worth.
Peter Parfitt on the "New Brit Worship" is HOW it should be done.
For most of the videos I have a transcript on the "Full Review" link if you have trouble following my speech.
nothing german about this overpriced crap
crap? lol
It is over-priced for Taiwan , you can get Stahlwille for less £ , i think a lot of the money is in that speed ratchet..............with WERA they have good marketing tactics & people can assume they"re German made but sadly no , czech Rep. , Taiwan , etc..........still good quality but people still look for "Made in Germany" :]
@@ccmogs5757 No way, Stahlwille is like double the price if not more. Maybe not for you in America, but here in Europe you pay 130 euros for this set and 300+ for a Stahlwille one. Even GTR admits Stahlwille is out of his price range. What many Americans seem to miss is that Wera has strict quality control rules. Even Proxxon made a name for itself and they only have Taiwan-made hand tools. I agree with you on the part that it's not really a Made in Germany brand, but as long as QC is of German origin, I have no issues trusting them. I as a Hungarian can only say that Made in CZ is very close to made in Germany, and even some German-made tools can be crap, it's not a guarantee for quality. Even Stahlwille has tools made in other countries. Also the CZ plant is Wera's own factory, not an outsourced production. My friend once borrowed my small Wera bit ratchet to loosen a nut stuck in rust on his motorbike, the idiot even put a 1 meter cheater bar on it, and it still held up and broke the nut with the 8 mm socket and the Taiwanese little ratchet. Only a small surface dent in the chrome finish made by the pipe. That speaks for itself.
@@istvanmolnar7637 - I"m in the UK & paid £82 for the 3/8" socket set in soft-case , true though RRP is stupidly over priced , also got a good deal on a 10/8 o/e spanner set , @ £30 :)
@@istvanmolnar7637 - Most Czech engineering is good quality , love the CZ rifles :)
Do not purchase wera tools, warranty process is terrible and they do not contact you back. Tools are good but warranty not worth the hassle, just buy stahlwille or hazet a little dearer but warranty service is excellent. I have purchased over $2500 of the products and even collecting all the calendars. I had one issue with a set which I only used 5 times and they ignored me. I would stick to a company who supports there clients.