Wrestled HS in PA & went to college in CT & I remember going to check out local hs/college matches there & was just shocked by the gap in talent, coaching & overall crowd intensity. PA is another level.
Lifelong wrestler from PA! Wish I wrestled in college, but I got burnt out after doing it K-12... Made it to regionals, and actually beat a guy that placed top 5 in state, but anywho, for sure, now i'm living in Arizona and helping assistant coach, I probably would've taken states if I grew up in a state like Arizona... Pennsylvania lives and bleeds wrestling! miss it so much!!! hope it keeps growing!
There are so many colleges in PA that have wrestling programs and of those about 8 are NCAA Division 1. This has been going on for decades and many of the programs are at schools that produce High School teachers. The result is that a majority of high schools have at least one or two coaches that competed at the college level. The several colleges that have very competitive programs like Penn State and Lehigh are well known. But a very large portion of high school wrestlers go on to compete at the college level outside of Pennsylvania.
Some of these lower on the list are really impressive when you consider the population. PA, NY, OH, NJ, CA have a whole lot more gas stations than Iowa also - could be a correlation there…
DAPPER DAN. I was kinda upset i couldnt wrestle in iron man in 9th grade bc my school didnt get invited. But also being so competetive drove me to lose a lot of weight the wrong way, you guys know rubber suits, run to and from school, practices and working out 3 times a day, and still get a pass out of all classes to go lose weight. I know many of us quit to persue neg avenues of life. Ive always been amazed of the guys who make through college and into worlds/olympics/etc remember Kerry Kolats first year at penn state, got into some stuff, transferred to Lock Haven.
Hopefully, Real Woods and Dean Hamiti will win a few titles. Illinois hasn't been as good as it once was. From 1961 - 2011, IL had the 5th most NCAA champs. Fortunately, Illinois produced a lot of All Americans this year.
@@dylanmoreno9010 just saying top California wrestlers consistently go out of state. If there was a big college program in the state, that might change
I grew up in ohio, and the caziest experience was my HS coach was an NCAA D1 all american. He pinned Mark Coleman at the Cliff Keen Invitational. I knew Coach Mariola was good but had no idea how much of a unit that guy was until I got older. Salt of the Earth that guy.
If you start talking about Lehigh, Clarion, Edinboro, Bloomsburg, Penn, Pitt and others outside of PSU, the area has opportunities inside the state. You also look at Iowa as Pennsylvania west with all the grads from the keystone state. I remember when Slippery Rock and IUP had programs. Also UPJ, Mercyhurst, and Gannon
I'm surprised when I talk Pennsylvania wrestling many folks don't recognize the name Wade Schalles. Wade's record in college, international competition usually ended with a pin. Dan Gable said of Schalles "the greatest pinned I've ever seen". Schalles defeated and pinned more NCAA champions than anyone. Wade's arguably one of the top wrestlers ever out of Pennsylvania.
It’s crazy that California is so prominent in wrestling but none of the top schools, UCLA, USC, UC Berkeley don’t have a wrestling program and Stanford just eliminated their program.
I Wrestled in Erie in the 70s and our best wrestler (Dave Daniels) at Iroquois HS had an back and forth competition with one of the Carr brothers, Chris I think. Best matches I have ever seen. PA has always had the best Wrestlers.
Fanco Wrestling I wouldn’t say it’s the Dagestan of the USA, but it definitely has a disproportionate amount of champions and it’s been going on much longer than 20 years
After reading all of the comments I have come to the conclusion that Iowa wins the per capita title and Penn wins the number title. Now as the original question was what state has produced the most? By the numbers Penn wins, case closed.
I'm from Colorado. But can someone please tell me what wrestler(s) out of CO has won a D1 national title since 1999? I can't figure out who it is/they are.
We've had some national finalists (Graff & Medberry). Both were actually from the same high school (Loveland). And several A.A.'s (Tom Clum, Yohn brothers, Max Wessel, Deakin, Schultz, etc. ) But I can't figure out who's won. Help! 🙏
Some of those "New Jersey" totals should probably be recalculated. Mark Perry is actually an Okie and went to Blair on a scholarship, and I'm sure there are other kids from other states being calculated into the NJ total for the same reason.
So many tough wrestlers! I wrestled in Antioch, Ca in the early 70's. We filled our gyms for every match but weren't that successful until an alumni , Steve Sanchez, became head coach and built a dominant program. One of the highlights was the Golden State Wrestling Club, which met and trained at the high school. AHS won at least one state championship with Sanchez at the helm.
@@edwardhoops6197 hell ya .. I never seen a wrestling match till tried it my freshman year .. I wasn’t to good at it .. didn’t really pick up on it .. it’s a tuff sport .. wasn’t fun for me . Lol .. the One champ per weight in California.. that’s great.. have to be a real bad ass to win
Great video! However it doesn’t account for population (or per capital). Let’s look at an example based on per representative (based on population). According to your data on 10:31 CA has 19 National Champs and ID has 4. On the face of it, CA has more champs. Yet CA has 52 representatives and ID has 2. ID produces 2 national champs per representative and CA only produces 0.37 per representative! ID is the better wrestling state per capita!!! You should make a new video that accounts for population.
I know you’re a WPIAL guy Josiah, but you should do that stats on D11 in college. They have dominated western PA the past 40 years. The Lehigh Valley produces the most D1 wrestlers in the country. Nazareth, Easton, Northampton, Bethlehem Catholic, Liberty, Parkland, Saucon Valley, Notre Dame LP. Even the HS programs that get laughed at in the area still get guys in D1 rooms.
Without looking at the video PA NO DOUBT, we start wrestling at 4 or 5 yrs old, great competition everywhere, great HS Wrestling...a team that could get all the PA best wrestlers would win the NC every single year
Dan Dapper tournament of champions.All the state champions from Pennsylvania that year against champions with 3 or 4 state titles from all the rest of the United States.DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THEY STILL HAVE THIS?? I WOULD GET TICKETS AND GO
Yeah that's a good 1 for you think about because there's a lot of good wrestling schools in Pennsylvania and I do believe clearfield is like the #1 state champions in the state and what pretty proud of that
3x is still 3x. The southwest region of pa probably has more than the state of Iowa. Off the top of my head they had Troy letters, Greg Jones, spencer lee, Coleman Scott, Jeremy hunter, Robbie Waller, jarrod king, jake Herbert. That is all from the WPIAL (the Pittsburgh area).
Iowa has a population of 3 million, and produced 12 champions or one for each 250,000 people. New York, with 20 Million, has 13, or 1 for each 1.5 million people. California, with 40 million people, has 19, or 1 for each 2 million. NJ, with 9 million people, has 26, or one for each 340,000 people. PA has 13 million people and 34 titles, or one for each 370,000 people. To me it is clear that the states that produce the most winners based on state size is (1) Iowa (2) NJ (3) PA.
I was surprised that they were so high at first too, but the more I thought about it. . . it didn't shock me that much. Cali produces some high quality wrestlers!
M yeah I’m from Cali so I thought every state did that. When I found out I thought it is stupid people could say in PA that they are a “state champ” but there could be like 3? I don’t agree with that
What's crazy about this is the population disparity between the top states and then NJ. PA is going to have more because their population is many times larger, but the caliber of wrestling is very similar to NJ. It's just a way of life for many.
@@FancoWrestling . Question about Virginia. Byron Tucker and Carl Perry. Who is the third one? I know about Tucker and Perry. I unfortunately had to coach against them. It was not pretty for my guys. Byron Tucker (Western Branch high school, College Oklahoma). Carl Perry (Great Bridge High school, College illinois). They both won it in the same year. 2000 One of the guys he beat was Josh Koscheck. (Edinboro) What's interesting is that Perry beat a teammate of Tuckers in the finals (Michael Lightner who would win it the next year). These two Virginia boys went to rival high schools in Virginia. Then one had to cheer against the other because he was wrestling his teammate. Thanks for your channel.
The criteria for this list can be debated, but it is a solid list. I would like to see the list of top 5 most difficult High School State Championships to win. California for example has 1 state tourney and no matter what Division your school you wrestle in the same tournament. In other words there is only 1 state champ in each weight class.
And I have a lot of respect for that but if the competition is so tough why are there not more national champions? A state that size to be dominated by PA and NJ as well as having competition from OH, MN, and WI shows the level of competition is well below their peers. A population that size with the stiffness of competition you imply should have many more champions. Go to States in Hershey, PA and behold greatness.
@@gm28jtr I didn’t say that the wrestling is better, in California. I said it is a much tougher road to becoming a state champion there. It is no wonder that in areas of the country where the major colleges in that area actually have wrestling programs and actively support and recruit the wrestlers in their area. Unfortunately most west coast colleges have axed wrestling and it is very u fortunate for the sport and the kids who wrestle in the region’s high schools
1.) 1 out of every 315,500 Iowans became national champs. 2.) 1 out of every 467,473 New Jersians became national champs. 3.) 1 out of every 609,523 Pennsylvanians became national champs.
You are awesome! thank you for all the details. too bad we will lose you to ESPN or another establishment. Keep doing what you are doing buddy. looking forward to future posts and your contined success. thank you
I nearly dropped my coffee cup when we got down to last two and you said...Florida. I was like...Huh??? That was comedic timing at its BEST! 🤣🤣🤣 My Buckeye State #3; Not bad!🥉🤠🥉 Fabulous podcast as always, nothing like this existed when I competed in the 1980s (unfortunately) but I’m enjoying it so much as a fan. Keep up the great work young man!
This is a great topic I'm from Philly PA... but went to school in new Jersey paulsboro... and Jersey has great wrestling I'm telling you.if all the kids from Jersey stayed in Jersey Rutgers would be a monster power House
Paulsboro had a great program for years. I looked to leave NJ ASAP! I never even looked at Rutgers. I was looking at princeton, i had a 1150 sat score ( when 1600 was top score) so Princeton didnt look at me! Funny thing is , same year Brooke Shields got in with a 900 Score !!!! How did that happen?
Yeah pretty proud of NEW JERSEY. The state got better for sure. I wanna say in or around the 1990’s. Wrestling clubs started being a thing. Guys just got better and better. Now Jersey wrestlers are a force. I would love to know the all time most titles per state. Still gotta think Pennsylvania.
Yes! I've toyed with this topic a bit and thought it would be fun to discuss. The toughest part is figuring out what "best" is. Some guys are 4X state champs and 0X NCAA champs. Then others are 0X state champs and become an NCAA champ and then compete phenomenally on the world level. So it's a lot to key up and debate. . . but I'd love to at least discuss it!
Well what about a couple of videos. Best wrestler state championships. Best wrestler national championships. You could do guys who never won states but won nationals in college. Dude there’s so many cool lists you can do!!!! How about unseeded wrestlers who won nationals? How about seeded wrestlers who didn’t win? Come on man make it happen!!!! Thank you
Of course, if you calculate champions by state population. Penn State would not be number one. 34 titles with 13 million people, that's one for every 383,000 people. New Jersey 26 titles 9 million people one for every 346,000 people. Much better. How about Iowa? 12 titles and 3.2 million people. that's one title for every 266,000 people. Even better than Penn or NJ. Pound for pound, Iowa is wrestling country.
Team NJ would literally beat the snot out of Iowa and Oklahoma in a best of a best high school tournament, like brute scholastic duals if that’s still a thing. it wouldn’t be close. The only competition here is PA, NJ, Ohio, and Illinois.
I think NJ produces more dominant wrestlers simply because NJ only has 1 state tournament at the high school level. A lot of PA kids luck out because there's a 50/50 shot that a good kid isn't in their division at the state tournament
@@FancoWrestling You're right. "Luck out" is harsh. But I think it is way more impressive to be a dominant NJ state champ like Makei Lewis. A dominant PA AAA champ can go his whole high school career without having to go through someone like Gavin Teasdale or Jason Nolf.
None of the division or non-division formats matter when they get to college. That first year at college wrestling shows me which state has the richest bed of talent. NJ has enough to be proud of, nobody has to be hurt if they aren't number 1 LOL.... they just ranked two spots higher than a state with over 39 million people (CA)!! N.Y. used to be one division as well, when I was wrestling I always thought we had it tougher than other states because of that, but PA always had a deeper layer of talented kids. Some even with mediocre records would clean up in tournaments such as the Las Vegas 100, where I saw teams from Washington, Oklahoma, California, etc... and PA teams like Upper Perk and Easton decimated most of them. There was no luck about it. I don't understand the resistance from some people-- it's been that way for a long time. Finally learning it shouldn't hurt. Even myself--- only a fifth placer in sectionals, didn't even come close to the state tournament in N.Y. (though I put some qualifiers on their backs, something I was known for if they got sloppy), and yet in the military open tourneys I beat a Minnesota state runner-up, and a two-time Vermont state champion. It's just hard to compare when coming from such different competition.
@@abbeykroeter2352 oh i get it. Im a jersey kid if that wasnt obvious. And ive tech falled a 2 time Vermont state champ, beaten a 4 time Maryland champ. And basically like what you said. However I do agree that PA has more good wrestlers. I think thatbis just do to all of the big wrestling club's in PA, NJ kids mostly go over to PA when they train at clubs. However I think NJs state tournament is way harder which is why, for the most part in my opinion, the top jersey kids are better than top PA kids.
California also has one state tourney and champ at each weight. As wrestling gains popularity, Cali will move towards the front. The population and weather produce some of the world's finest atheletes.
So the list is wrestlers born in each state but then takes the number for ncaa titles the states schools has won and ncaa champs that were born in that state but didn’t necessarily wrestle for a school in that state lol so wtf so confused And the wrestlers that help win the schools ncaa title aren’t necessarily from that state this is so weird lol
Hey Fanco Boy, As of 2022-2023 Wrestling Season- #1 State is Ohio with 32 D1 wrestlers who are ranked, with a State population of 12 million. #2 State is PA with 31 D1 wrestlers who are ranked, with a State population of 14 million. #3 State is NJ with 26 D1 wrestlers who are ranked, with a State population of 8 million. So based on the numbers NJ has 3.33 wrestlers that are ranked per million of population. If we had the same population of 14 million like PA, we would have an additional 6 million people, adding 20 more ranked wrestlers to our total giving us 46. NJ >PA.
@@tommycryptic it was never about population Tommy. Yes I know Jersey has more people but my point was their portion of NCAA champs has risen at one of the fastest rates in the country while Iowa's has declined sharply
Of all those states on there, is California the most populated states? I've always kind of wondered how less populated states like Ohio compete with California.
@@johnfraleee nice, you probably know about dustin schlatter and lance palmer than huh? i wrestled in California, but wrestling wasn't very big in the area i grew up in.
That’s why I always am proud to have gotten a winning record in high school competing in western PA, it isn’t easy.
Yeah, that’s the tougher part of the state, congrats
Yep, it's a different beast
Haven't started the video yet, but I'm guessing Pennsylvania.
Do you think it would be PA if you factored in population?
Great info!!!
Wrestled HS in PA & went to college in CT & I remember going to check out local hs/college matches there & was just shocked by the gap in talent, coaching & overall crowd intensity. PA is another level.
Lifelong wrestler from PA! Wish I wrestled in college, but I got burnt out after doing it K-12... Made it to regionals, and actually beat a guy that placed top 5 in state, but anywho, for sure, now i'm living in Arizona and helping assistant coach, I probably would've taken states if I grew up in a state like Arizona... Pennsylvania lives and bleeds wrestling! miss it so much!!! hope it keeps growing!
Haha
There are so many colleges in PA that have wrestling programs and of those about 8 are NCAA Division 1. This has been going on for decades and many of the programs are at schools that produce High School teachers. The result is that a majority of high schools have at least one or two coaches that competed at the college level. The several colleges that have very competitive programs like Penn State and Lehigh are well known. But a very large portion of high school wrestlers go on to compete at the college level outside of Pennsylvania.
Some of these lower on the list are really impressive when you consider the population. PA, NY, OH, NJ, CA have a whole lot more gas stations than Iowa also - could be a correlation there…
Living in western pa as a wrestling fan is great
Pennsylvania, simply the BEST Wrestling state. WE ARE PENN STATE WRESTLING!!!!!
not per capita
DAPPER DAN. I was kinda upset i couldnt wrestle in iron man in 9th grade bc my school didnt get invited. But also being so competetive drove me to lose a lot of weight the wrong way, you guys know rubber suits, run to and from school, practices and working out 3 times a day, and still get a pass out of all classes to go lose weight. I know many of us quit to persue neg avenues of life. Ive always been amazed of the guys who make through college and into worlds/olympics/etc remember Kerry Kolats first year at penn state, got into some stuff, transferred to Lock Haven.
Illinois with another one: Austin O’Connor wrestled at St Rita in Chicago
Hopefully, Real Woods and Dean Hamiti will win a few titles. Illinois hasn't been as good as it once was. From 1961 - 2011, IL had the 5th most NCAA champs. Fortunately, Illinois produced a lot of All Americans this year.
For a big state, California, needs a local Div. 1 college to invest into a powerhouse wrestling program
@@dylanmoreno9010 just saying top California wrestlers consistently go out of state. If there was a big college program in the state, that might change
I grew up in ohio, and the caziest experience was my HS coach was an NCAA D1 all american. He pinned Mark Coleman at the Cliff Keen Invitational. I knew Coach Mariola was good but had no idea how much of a unit that guy was until I got older. Salt of the Earth that guy.
PA is by far the best...they also lead most place winners and qualifiers by far. Living here I can tell you wrestling is a part of our culture.
When was the last time PA had an Olympic Champion. Over 30 years ago. PA is great stateside. At the highest level internationally...NOT SO MUCH!!
I'd like to see who has had the most overall All-Americans too. That's just a lot more stats to dive into in the future!
@@FancoWrestling I'd like to see which state has the most Olympic Medalists.
@@FancoWrestling FYI: Did you know Colorado has never had an Olympian on the Men's Greco or Freestyle team.
@@valiantthor- wow lol
We had a middle of the road wrestler in highschool move from pa to florida. He went from being .500ish in pa to a state placer in florida.
Should try dividing the number of champions by the population of the state, and see how iowa fairs.
If you start talking about Lehigh, Clarion, Edinboro, Bloomsburg, Penn, Pitt and others outside of PSU, the area has opportunities inside the state. You also look at Iowa as Pennsylvania west with all the grads from the keystone state. I remember when Slippery Rock and IUP had programs. Also UPJ, Mercyhurst, and Gannon
Don't forget lock haven u. In pa
I’m just happy Florida has one champ
Pat lugo right?
@@brittonporter5063 Chris Bono is from Florida and won as a junior, but as Josiah stated: These stats are from 1999-2019.
I'm surprised when I talk Pennsylvania wrestling many folks don't recognize the name Wade Schalles. Wade's record in college, international competition usually ended with a pin. Dan Gable said of Schalles "the greatest pinned I've ever seen". Schalles defeated and pinned more NCAA champions than anyone. Wade's arguably one of the top wrestlers ever out of Pennsylvania.
I agree
If you love Wrestling and live in PA, this is easy. Just ask Iowa, look where half their lineup comes from.
It’s crazy that California is so prominent in wrestling but none of the top schools, UCLA, USC, UC Berkeley don’t have a wrestling program and Stanford just eliminated their program.
For its size New Jersey is a hot bed of wrestling remember it’s only a fraction of the size of Pennsylvania.
It's a small state, but also the most densely populated -- 8.88 million.
Love these vids. It would be interesting to see one that lists champs per capita.
Just went back and watched this again. Really interesting. Well executed!
2023 still no Olympic Champions native to Pennsylvania 😢
I Wrestled in Erie in the 70s and our best wrestler (Dave Daniels) at Iroquois HS had an back and forth competition with one of the Carr brothers, Chris I think. Best matches I have ever seen. PA has always had the best Wrestlers.
-PA- OK has always had the best Wrestlers
Hey walk while we're at it can you do the #1 wrestling state wrestling champions in Pennsylvania because that's a Big question Thank you
10 individual champions with a population of only 3 million people in Iowa....absolutely incredible
For sure! Champs per capital would be another interesting topic
Fanco Wrestling I wouldn’t say it’s the Dagestan of the USA, but it definitely has a disproportionate amount of champions and it’s been going on much longer than 20 years
After reading all of the comments I have come to the conclusion that Iowa wins the per capita title and Penn wins the number title. Now as the original question was what state has produced the most? By the numbers Penn wins, case closed.
I'm from Colorado. But can someone please tell me what wrestler(s) out of CO has won a D1 national title since 1999? I can't figure out who it is/they are.
We've had some national finalists (Graff & Medberry). Both were actually from the same high school (Loveland).
And several A.A.'s (Tom Clum, Yohn brothers, Max Wessel, Deakin, Schultz, etc. ) But I can't figure out who's won. Help! 🙏
Pa is just too good
Can you please update this list for 2022???
Some of those "New Jersey" totals should probably be recalculated. Mark Perry is actually an Okie and went to Blair on a scholarship, and I'm sure there are other kids from other states being calculated into the NJ total for the same reason.
Cali style.. San Joaquin valley
So many tough wrestlers! I wrestled in Antioch, Ca in the early 70's. We filled our gyms for every match but weren't that successful until an alumni , Steve Sanchez, became head coach and built a dominant program. One of the highlights was the Golden State Wrestling Club, which met and trained at the high school. AHS won at least one state championship with Sanchez at the helm.
@@edwardhoops6197 hell ya .. I never seen a wrestling match till tried it my freshman year .. I wasn’t to good at it .. didn’t really pick up on it .. it’s a tuff sport .. wasn’t fun for me . Lol .. the One champ per weight in California.. that’s great.. have to be a real bad ass to win
Michigan...Jon Reader (Iowa State, Paul Donahoe (Nebraska) both won Championships.
Mark Hall is from Michigan originally. His dad moved him because you cant wrestle HS while in middle school. Hall is from Davidson Mi. Same as Metcalf
Go Iowa, GREAT VIDEO
Great video!
However it doesn’t account for population (or per capital). Let’s look at an example based on per representative (based on population). According to your data on 10:31 CA has 19 National Champs and ID has 4. On the face of it, CA has more champs. Yet CA has 52 representatives and ID has 2. ID produces 2 national champs per representative and CA only produces 0.37 per representative! ID is the better wrestling state per capita!!!
You should make a new video that accounts for population.
Giving all the people from pennsylvania their moment to brag when you conveniently cut out all the dan gable years LOL
I know you’re a WPIAL guy Josiah, but you should do that stats on D11 in college. They have dominated western PA the past 40 years. The Lehigh Valley produces the most D1 wrestlers in the country. Nazareth, Easton, Northampton, Bethlehem Catholic, Liberty, Parkland, Saucon Valley, Notre Dame LP. Even the HS programs that get laughed at in the area still get guys in D1 rooms.
I’ve always been proud to have wrestled in the Powerade tournament and in western PA in general.
Pennsylvania kids are in another galaxy . This is coming from a guy who wrestled in Ohio.
Without looking at the video PA NO DOUBT, we start wrestling at 4 or 5 yrs old, great competition everywhere, great HS Wrestling...a team that could get all the PA best wrestlers would win the NC every single year
Dan Dapper tournament of champions.All the state champions from Pennsylvania that year against champions with 3 or 4 state titles from all the rest of the United States.DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THEY STILL HAVE THIS?? I WOULD GET TICKETS AND GO
Yeah that's a good 1 for you think about because there's a lot of good wrestling schools in Pennsylvania and I do believe clearfield is like the #1 state champions in the state and what pretty proud of that
PA #1 baby. Keystone State represent!!!
4x the populationof iowa with only 3x more national champs
Homer's don't think about the population ratio, lol
3x is still 3x. The southwest region of pa probably has more than the state of Iowa. Off the top of my head they had Troy letters, Greg Jones, spencer lee, Coleman Scott, Jeremy hunter, Robbie Waller, jarrod king, jake Herbert. That is all from the WPIAL (the Pittsburgh area).
Iowa has a population of 3 million, and produced 12 champions or one for each 250,000 people. New York, with 20 Million, has 13, or 1 for each 1.5 million people. California, with 40 million people, has 19, or 1 for each 2 million. NJ, with 9 million people, has 26, or one for each 340,000 people. PA has 13 million people and 34 titles, or one for each 370,000 people. To me it is clear that the states that produce the most winners based on state size is (1) Iowa (2) NJ (3) PA.
I live in Pennsylvania
Me, too.
all of new england. we could never compete with the rest of the country, going back to at least the 70s
I was actually kinda shocked cali made it in the top 5. Pretty awesome hearing that!
I was surprised that they were so high at first too, but the more I thought about it. . . it didn't shock me that much. Cali produces some high quality wrestlers!
Think of the size than the comp level with only being one division.
M yeah I’m from Cali so I thought every state did that. When I found out I thought it is stupid people could say in PA that they are a “state champ” but there could be like 3? I don’t agree with that
@@jakedurham8390 same here. If California can figure out how to have one true champion. Pa and Ohio should be able to do it too.
@@jakedurham8390 lol in Utah there can be 6. Ridiculously watered down
What's crazy about this is the population disparity between the top states and then NJ.
PA is going to have more because their population is many times larger, but the caliber of wrestling is very similar to NJ. It's just a way of life for many.
Most of New Jersey's "19" champs were from states other than NJ, thanks to Blair.
Your argument doesn't work. They move to where they know they can improve. And come to a place where the competition is tougher, ie NJ.
@@jrod7929 That doesn't mean that most of them don't come from out of state.
Do one by state per capita. Coming from Sidney MT.
Love your videos as always
Thank you!
@@FancoWrestling . Question about Virginia. Byron Tucker and Carl Perry. Who is the third one?
I know about Tucker and Perry. I unfortunately had to coach against them. It was not pretty for my guys.
Byron Tucker (Western Branch high school, College Oklahoma). Carl Perry (Great Bridge High school, College illinois). They both won it in the same year. 2000 One of the guys he beat was Josh Koscheck. (Edinboro)
What's interesting is that Perry beat a teammate of Tuckers in the finals (Michael Lightner who would win it the next year). These two Virginia boys went to rival high schools in Virginia. Then one had to cheer against the other because he was wrestling his teammate.
Thanks for your channel.
@@FancoWrestling is just simply great just like the competition from kindergarten to adulthood in Pennsylvania
Why by state instead of school? Seems different
The criteria for this list can be debated, but it is a solid list. I would like to see the list of top 5 most difficult High School State Championships to win. California for example has 1 state tourney and no matter what Division your school you wrestle in the same tournament. In other words there is only 1 state champ in each weight class.
And I have a lot of respect for that but if the competition is so tough why are there not more national champions? A state that size to be dominated by PA and NJ as well as having competition from OH, MN, and WI shows the level of competition is well below their peers. A population that size with the stiffness of competition you imply should have many more champions.
Go to States in Hershey, PA and behold greatness.
@@gm28jtr I didn’t say that the wrestling is better, in California. I said it is a much tougher road to becoming a state champion there. It is no wonder that in areas of the country where the major colleges in that area actually have wrestling programs and actively support and recruit the wrestlers in their area. Unfortunately most west coast colleges have axed wrestling and it is very u fortunate for the sport and the kids who wrestle in the region’s high schools
For CA lack of D1 participation: Grades. There is an academic component to this.
Interesting to adjust for population- there are a lot more people in New Jersey, Pennsylvania etc than there are in a state like Iowa...
1.) 1 out of every 315,500 Iowans became national champs.
2.) 1 out of every 467,473 New Jersians became national champs.
3.) 1 out of every 609,523 Pennsylvanians became national champs.
Sheldon Thomas is from Delaware st mark's high school went to clarion university
RIDICULOUS because > Why just the past 20 yrs ? The past 60 yrs tells the full story
Mark hall from Michigan, just saying.
You are awesome! thank you for all the details. too bad we will lose you to ESPN or another establishment. Keep doing what you are doing buddy. looking forward to future posts and your contined success. thank you
I nearly dropped my coffee cup when we got down to last two and you said...Florida. I was like...Huh???
That was comedic timing at its BEST!
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My Buckeye State #3; Not bad!🥉🤠🥉
Fabulous podcast as always, nothing like this existed when I competed in the 1980s (unfortunately) but I’m enjoying it so much as a fan. Keep up the great work young man!
your buckeye state? your name is john smith? what’s going on
This is a great topic I'm from Philly PA... but went to school in new Jersey paulsboro... and Jersey has great wrestling I'm telling you.if all the kids from Jersey stayed in Jersey Rutgers would be a monster power House
Paulsboro had a great program for years. I looked to leave NJ ASAP!
I never even looked at Rutgers.
I was looking at princeton, i had a 1150 sat score ( when 1600 was top score) so Princeton didnt look at me!
Funny thing is , same year Brooke Shields got in with a 900 Score !!!!
How did that happen?
Paulsboro is now where the state titles will be this year and not in AC sadly
Yeah pretty proud of NEW JERSEY. The state got better for sure. I wanna say in or around the 1990’s. Wrestling clubs started being a thing.
Guys just got better and better. Now Jersey wrestlers are a force.
I would love to know the all time most titles per state. Still gotta think Pennsylvania.
MINNESOTA
😐 My surprised face.
PA District XI is the single best district in the country. Then you have other power houses such as Districts I, II, and IV.
Iowa state lineup breakdown please thank you nice video
Ben Askren is originally from Cedar Rapids, Iowa
As a Pittsburgh kid, I´m here to say GO PA!
Per Capita Iowa is #1
Wow PA is a wrestling hot bed
I knew the answer to the question before I even clicked on the video. Penn state all the way baby
Doffy20 Pennsylvania not pennstate a lot of them are from other schools
David Taylor was born in Wisconsin
You should make a video about high level high school and collegiate wrestlers that became high level athletes in other sports
Best wrestler from each state
Yes! I've toyed with this topic a bit and thought it would be fun to discuss. The toughest part is figuring out what "best" is. Some guys are 4X state champs and 0X NCAA champs. Then others are 0X state champs and become an NCAA champ and then compete phenomenally on the world level. So it's a lot to key up and debate. . . but I'd love to at least discuss it!
Well what about a couple of videos. Best wrestler state championships. Best wrestler national championships.
You could do guys who never won states but won nationals in college. Dude there’s so many cool lists you can do!!!! How about unseeded wrestlers who won nationals? How about seeded wrestlers who didn’t win?
Come on man make it happen!!!!
Thank you
California representing
Gable Stevenson hasnt won an NCAA title yet...
NO HE GOT BEAT IN FINALS& MAY BE DONE ALL TOGETHER
I'm going out on a limb and say he wont do it till his junior yr
@@southernohio3541 got beat in the semifinals at ncaas, finals at big tens.
@@christhatcher7069 maybe depends is Cassar takes both years the NCAA gave him
No, he's not an NCAA champ. I was mostly referring to the fact that he COULD win it in the near future - my bad for the confusion!
Where are you
Well technically DT is from Nevada but he moved to Ohio in 6th grade I think
But let’s go Ohio
You have before you even start I already know the answer to this question it's my home state of Pennsylvania #1 in the nation
Here's a video I'd like to see. NCAA champs that never won a high school state title. Phil Davis, Brock Lesnar.
Of course, if you calculate champions by state population. Penn State would not be number one. 34 titles with 13 million people, that's one for every 383,000 people. New Jersey 26 titles 9 million people one for every 346,000 people. Much better. How about Iowa? 12 titles and 3.2 million people. that's one title for every 266,000 people. Even better than Penn or NJ. Pound for pound, Iowa is wrestling country.
Team NJ would literally beat the snot out of Iowa and Oklahoma in a best of a best high school tournament, like brute scholastic duals if that’s still a thing. it wouldn’t be close. The only competition here is PA, NJ, Ohio, and Illinois.
Gonna guess pa...haven't watched yet, its a battle for 2 and below...and I'm a ca guy...it's just a fact pa is the gold standard
Doesn't Zahid count for Arizona (ASU)? You didn't mention Askren for Mizz...🤔
Askren is from WI
Home states
Anthony Cesar is from nj
Yes, and that would be Cassar!
I think NJ produces more dominant wrestlers simply because NJ only has 1 state tournament at the high school level. A lot of PA kids luck out because there's a 50/50 shot that a good kid isn't in their division at the state tournament
Having one state tournament, like California, is tough. But I disagree that the PA kids "luck out."
@@FancoWrestling You're right. "Luck out" is harsh. But I think it is way more impressive to be a dominant NJ state champ like Makei Lewis. A dominant PA AAA champ can go his whole high school career without having to go through someone like Gavin Teasdale or Jason Nolf.
None of the division or non-division formats matter when they get to college. That first year at college wrestling shows me which state has the richest bed of talent.
NJ has enough to be proud of, nobody has to be hurt if they aren't number 1 LOL.... they just ranked two spots higher than a state with over 39 million people (CA)!!
N.Y. used to be one division as well, when I was wrestling I always thought we had it tougher than other states because of that, but PA always had a deeper layer of talented kids. Some even with mediocre records would clean up in tournaments such as the Las Vegas 100, where I saw teams from Washington, Oklahoma, California, etc... and PA teams like Upper Perk and Easton decimated most of them. There was no luck about it.
I don't understand the resistance from some people-- it's been that way for a long time. Finally learning it shouldn't hurt.
Even myself--- only a fifth placer in sectionals, didn't even come close to the state tournament in N.Y. (though I put some qualifiers on their backs, something I was known for if they got sloppy), and yet in the military open tourneys I beat a Minnesota state runner-up, and a two-time Vermont state champion. It's just hard to compare when coming from such different competition.
@@abbeykroeter2352 oh i get it. Im a jersey kid if that wasnt obvious. And ive tech falled a 2 time Vermont state champ, beaten a 4 time Maryland champ. And basically like what you said. However I do agree that PA has more good wrestlers. I think thatbis just do to all of the big wrestling club's in PA, NJ kids mostly go over to PA when they train at clubs. However I think NJs state tournament is way harder which is why, for the most part in my opinion, the top jersey kids are better than top PA kids.
California also has one state tourney and champ at each weight. As wrestling gains popularity, Cali will move towards the front. The population and weather produce some of the world's finest atheletes.
CA not bad.
Overall great video and amazing insight
Matt Demery, Apple Valley, MN. Two time NCAA wrestling Champ, University of Wisconsin, Madison.
Dam you didn’t mention Nebraska 😢
So the list is wrestlers born in each state but then takes the number for ncaa titles the states schools has won and ncaa champs that were born in that state but didn’t necessarily wrestle for a school in that state lol so wtf so confused
And the wrestlers that help win the schools ncaa title aren’t necessarily from that state this is so weird lol
Breakdown the all time top 25 regions. For example Some of regions in NJ are garbage and don’t deserve all the love they’re receiving
Hey Fanco Boy,
As of 2022-2023 Wrestling Season-
#1 State is Ohio with 32 D1 wrestlers who are ranked, with a State population of 12 million.
#2 State is PA with 31 D1 wrestlers who are ranked, with a State population of 14 million.
#3 State is NJ with 26 D1 wrestlers who are ranked, with a State population of 8 million.
So based on the numbers NJ has 3.33 wrestlers that are ranked per million of population.
If we had the same population of 14 million like PA, we would have an additional 6 million people, adding 20 more ranked wrestlers to our total giving us 46.
NJ >PA.
New York bby
Would have like to see you include d3 and d2 champs since that is also NCAA
How many of Penn's titles are in the last 10 years?
a lot.
New Jersey is rising the fastest and Iowa is declining the fastest
3x the population of iowa and less than 2x the number of national champs.
@@tommycryptic it was never about population Tommy. Yes I know Jersey has more people but my point was their portion of NCAA champs has risen at one of the fastest rates in the country while Iowa's has declined sharply
Lol, and how many people are in NJ compared to Iowa?
@@tommycryptic you tell me you're the smart one apparently
WV gonna get their first this year, Amos wrestling for Wisconsin
Gable steveson has never won an ncaa title
True. . . I was mostly just mentioning that he COULD win a title over the next few years.
Fanco Wrestling true, he certainly will win eventually
You forgot Drake Houdeshelt from Missouri.
you forgot joe dobuque from NJ 2xer
Yes! Another notable wrestler - don't worry, I counted him in the stats.
Of all those states on there, is California the most populated states? I've always kind of wondered how less populated states like Ohio compete with California.
Because it snows and rains 300/365 days a year. So we wrestle and play basketball lol.
@@johnfraleee are you talking about Ohio? That makes sense!
Yep, I grew up wrestling in Northeast Ohio. It’s taken pretty seriously even at a young age. Probably comparable to how Texas treats football.
@@johnfraleee nice, you probably know about dustin schlatter and lance palmer than huh? i wrestled in California, but wrestling wasn't very big in the area i grew up in.