Nice bike! Love the colour. It looks like the forks have a slacker rake angle than your previous model, but that might just be the camera angle, as think you said it was the same. I'm doing a gravel event in Fuerteventura this week ,but have decided to opt for comfort and use my old Specialised Fate, which is super light for a mtb. The terrain is flatter than Gran Canaria, where there are some gnarly technical descents😀
Mein Wahoo hat ähnliche Ausgeschaut wie deiner das sich das Displayglas langsam löst. Ich mich an Wahoo gewendet und ein Ersatzgerät erhalten. Grüße aus Villa Alberto Andrés Alvarado Arámburo 🇲🇽 von meiner Panamericana Bikepacking Radreise von Deadhorse Alaska nach Ushuaia Argentinien. 🚴
The bike looks great and I’m very interested in one. Is the Mason Bokeh heavier than an equivalent carbon bike? Just a general idea not looking for specifics.
It really depends on your definition of 'equivalent', and the intent the designer of a hypothetical 'carbon Bokeh' would have. If you just look at material characteristics a carbon frame will be lighter than an aluminum frame for a given size and stiffness. But that's not the whole story. Especially when building a carbon bike aimed at gravel riding, suddenly other factors like 'bump compliance' and 'impact resistance' become important factors. Carbon doesn't particularly handle impact forces well.. so you add more material (generally speaking). Using very strong but light 'high modulus' fiber can make for a very light frame, but it will be more fragile. Lower modulus carbon fiber will be heavier, and less stiff, but tougher (but you need more of it to get the required stiffness if that's what you're going for). Real world examples: - Mason Bokeh 3 (aluminum frame, GRX 810 2x11, alloy wheels) comes in at 9.2kg for a size 54. - Canyon Grizl CF SL 8 (carbon frame, GRX 1x12, alloy wheels) comes in a 9.5kg for a size M. - Specialized Crux Comp (carbon frame, GRX 1x12, alloy wheels) comes in at 8.55kg for a size 56. But let's go top-spec just because we can: - Canyon Grizl CF SLX 8 (carbon frame, GRX 2x12 Di2, carbon wheels) comes in at 8.55kg in size M (at 5099 EUR) - Canyon Grail CFR XPLR (carbon frame, RED 1x13, carbon wheels) comes in at 7.5kg in size M (at 8649 EUR) - Specialized S-Works Crux (carbon frame, RED 1x13, carbon wheels) comes in at 6.94kg in size 56 (for just 13000 EUR..) I personally own a Crux Expert in size 58 that comes in at less than 8.5kg with pedals, cages, etc and I absolutely love that bike. But it's built for 'fast gravel' in my opinion. It's light, it's fast. It survived French pavé without issues (as it should), and all gravel I subjected it to. Yet, if I were to participate in an ultra-distance event like the ones Josh does, I'd happily trade some weight for impact resistance so that an ill-timed rock strike to the down tube doesn't turn my ride into a hike to the nearest train station.
I do like your content but I dislike that although being an environmentally friendly cyclist your carbon footprint is way higher compared to people who do not fly to the canarian islands and other destinations. Stick to the roots of cycling and our planet may thrive!
You overestimate the CO2 footprint of flying. Not having a car, not eating meat, not being a mindless consumer make more of a difference then a few flights a year.
Firstly: I'm curious which data you're using to draw this conclusion from. Just general curiosity here. Secondly: Check out his video on the Accursed race he did earlier this year. It might change your perspective or it might not. It was an interesting race in an interesting context (environmentally speaking as well) nonetheless. Lastly: our world leaders fly their private jets all around the globe because they insist that discussing climate change should happen in person, at the location of their choice, with the most convenient travel possible, and under 'comfortable' (luxurious) circumstances. As long as that's still the norm, should we really be pointing fingers at (effectively) strangers on the internet because they may or may not decide to fly somewhere rather than swim?
I love that you are (re) using older components. Some channels throw everything new on and that is just so not my thing. If it is not broken.. use it!
I've got a v2 and love it. It might cost a few pennys more than most, but it's also a lot better than most 👍🏼
Nice bike! Love the colour. It looks like the forks have a slacker rake angle than your previous model, but that might just be the camera angle, as think you said it was the same.
I'm doing a gravel event in Fuerteventura this week ,but have decided to opt for comfort and use my old Specialised Fate, which is super light for a mtb. The terrain is flatter than Gran Canaria, where there are some gnarly technical descents😀
If you put the Redshift stem on, could you compare the stem to the Lauf fork you had on the V2?
Mein Wahoo hat ähnliche Ausgeschaut wie deiner das sich das Displayglas langsam löst.
Ich mich an Wahoo gewendet und ein Ersatzgerät erhalten.
Grüße aus Villa Alberto Andrés Alvarado Arámburo 🇲🇽 von meiner Panamericana Bikepacking Radreise von Deadhorse Alaska nach Ushuaia Argentinien. 🚴
The Bokeh (still) looks great. I have a v2 in the same colour. I’m slow as F, but it lets me pretent I’m fast.
no new groupset/drivetrain sponsor for 2025?
The bike looks great and I’m very interested in one. Is the Mason Bokeh heavier than an equivalent carbon bike? Just a general idea not looking for specifics.
It really depends on your definition of 'equivalent', and the intent the designer of a hypothetical 'carbon Bokeh' would have. If you just look at material characteristics a carbon frame will be lighter than an aluminum frame for a given size and stiffness. But that's not the whole story. Especially when building a carbon bike aimed at gravel riding, suddenly other factors like 'bump compliance' and 'impact resistance' become important factors. Carbon doesn't particularly handle impact forces well.. so you add more material (generally speaking). Using very strong but light 'high modulus' fiber can make for a very light frame, but it will be more fragile. Lower modulus carbon fiber will be heavier, and less stiff, but tougher (but you need more of it to get the required stiffness if that's what you're going for).
Real world examples:
- Mason Bokeh 3 (aluminum frame, GRX 810 2x11, alloy wheels) comes in at 9.2kg for a size 54.
- Canyon Grizl CF SL 8 (carbon frame, GRX 1x12, alloy wheels) comes in a 9.5kg for a size M.
- Specialized Crux Comp (carbon frame, GRX 1x12, alloy wheels) comes in at 8.55kg for a size 56.
But let's go top-spec just because we can:
- Canyon Grizl CF SLX 8 (carbon frame, GRX 2x12 Di2, carbon wheels) comes in at 8.55kg in size M (at 5099 EUR)
- Canyon Grail CFR XPLR (carbon frame, RED 1x13, carbon wheels) comes in at 7.5kg in size M (at 8649 EUR)
- Specialized S-Works Crux (carbon frame, RED 1x13, carbon wheels) comes in at 6.94kg in size 56 (for just 13000 EUR..)
I personally own a Crux Expert in size 58 that comes in at less than 8.5kg with pedals, cages, etc and I absolutely love that bike. But it's built for 'fast gravel' in my opinion. It's light, it's fast. It survived French pavé without issues (as it should), and all gravel I subjected it to. Yet, if I were to participate in an ultra-distance event like the ones Josh does, I'd happily trade some weight for impact resistance so that an ill-timed rock strike to the down tube doesn't turn my ride into a hike to the nearest train station.
Expensive as hell, better look at Veloheld IconX or smth. Even Veloheld Titan IconX is less expensive.
I do like your content but I dislike that although being an environmentally friendly cyclist your carbon footprint is way higher compared to people who do not fly to the canarian islands and other destinations. Stick to the roots of cycling and our planet may thrive!
I’m sure we could all do a lot better. Yourself included.
You overestimate the CO2 footprint of flying. Not having a car, not eating meat, not being a mindless consumer make more of a difference then a few flights a year.
Firstly: I'm curious which data you're using to draw this conclusion from. Just general curiosity here.
Secondly: Check out his video on the Accursed race he did earlier this year. It might change your perspective or it might not. It was an interesting race in an interesting context (environmentally speaking as well) nonetheless.
Lastly: our world leaders fly their private jets all around the globe because they insist that discussing climate change should happen in person, at the location of their choice, with the most convenient travel possible, and under 'comfortable' (luxurious) circumstances. As long as that's still the norm, should we really be pointing fingers at (effectively) strangers on the internet because they may or may not decide to fly somewhere rather than swim?
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