It's funny but I think what do you mean to sit at 340 and under 6ft tall, his current bench press wouldn't make him a very competitive as a powerlifter. Even at 600 pounds that puts you in about the top 10% of the pros at untested events, but until you get into the mid 600s, the best guys at that weight are heading over 700 like the Russian, Scott Mendelsom and Ryan Kennelly, Eric Spoto, thev much lighter Larry Wheels and Stan Efferding are over 600 at 275, in a full three movement meet. That's really tough to do so Derek is incredibly strongbut it's simply being humble and realistic about his bench press when he compares himself to the very best in the strength world. no doubt to get a better bunch but again very few strong men are world-class bench pressers because if you get so obsessed on overhead stuff, you will not have the energy to put into flat benching to perform during the same training cycle with world class weight will have adverse effects on the other lips so it's better to specialize depending on when your next competition is scheduled whether it's strong man or powerlifting, whether its bench only or a full meet. They will all reflect a different trainingstrategy and if your training solely for a bench only meet your chances benching at your best is practically guaranteed with the right plan and right guidance.
benched 500 in there looks like the old dolphin fitness in wolcott. I remember benches side by side with Derek I hit 495 last set he set 465-470 9 years ago wow how time flies!
ive just recently changed to the grip to this and it vastly decreases the stress on the wrists as well as raised my overall bench weight i think it is far better than the normal bar grip
@bwkrause there's a lot of good info on how warm up sets are critical for developing power and overall neuromuscular development for any athlete. some say it takes about 1000 reps in our sport to fully learn or change technique. either way doing warm up sets @ 30-50% 1RM will help you develop even better form in your lifts. later in your working sets you definitely notice the reps are a little more automatic as you're really dialed into using the body the way you want. our form of practice.
you can use more weight when using top half. thats the point- you get ur cns used to handling heavy loads and get stronger that way. same way people train the lockout of deadlifts with more weight than they can get from the ground.
big fan of Centaponi here, he's a younger guy and i respect his physique so far he's still got somewhat of an old school aesthetic look imo, i hope he maintains that n doesnt go for pure mass further into his career
what do you weigh, and what weight are you squatting?? the 2 most important things with squats are to keep your back straight and your knees behind your toes (verticaly) get a friend to make sure your knees dont come past your toes when you squat down.
@acubanmissile he does not use roids. he has gifted genetics and the way he trains builds more power instead of looks which is waht a body builder would want.
I totally agree with you. Everyone should definitely be marking all these poorly conceived spam comments as spam. They're simply everywhere in the fitness videos.
They can effectively train each at 100%. Think of your bench press, and where you get stuck. I get stuck at the bottom (where the deltoids are most important), so say I can get 275 there, but 280 won't break through. But in the top half (where chest and triceps take over) I can handle well over 280. By training each you can focus on the main muscle groups (bottom- delts/lats, top- tris, chest- throughout) with their maximum weight. On a full ROM my tris won't get as much work as if done separate
Evan - "You put another 100lbs in there" Derek - "Yeah" Evan - "Fuck that!" Bodybuilders are awesome and have amazing physique's. No one touches a strongman for strength and raw power
Suicide grip does not help you bench more weight it's a myth.....you actually have a stronger bench with thumbs around the bar and wrist not bent but straight
That flat-board chest press exercise is NUTS!... absolutely NO cheating can be done there... and it's crazy that they're doing such heavy weight in a movement like that with NO spot, but in the regular flat bench press they were... wish my gym had an apparatus like that.
i know that man, i just wanted to point that out so this other dude who said "900 minimum" doesn't trash out a real bench (raw) with shirt benching , because i think you know that a bench shirt adds a lot of power to a bench, so it's almost like a "fake bench" anyways i get your point, poundstone wouldn't even fit in a raw powerlifting comp, but he is indeed a big bencher for most people who work out
Derek Poundstone says, "I'm not a big bencher ... I'm only going to use 60% of my max ... I just hurt my triceps so I'm going to take it easy today" ... Then proceeds to toy with 415 for easy reps ... DAMN!!!
i did this week free squats first time ever... until then i di smith ones. that was thursday, and my legs are still sore as hell..i did 15-20 reps, and at the end i hardly could get a breath
A bodybuilding exercise would be one that powerlifters, strongmen, and olympic lifters typically never perform. Cable cross-overs, concentration curls, side lateral raises etc.
let's not go shooting off on a tangent, my comment specifically is referring to definition. Cutler has this sort of soft blubbery look to me in some camera angles, whereas Centaponi is more chisseled.
good work bro. although i prefer to squat in a lower rep range, 8-12, but if you are just starting out then 15-20 is good. you make sure you keep your knees behind your toes??
he says he wanna be well rounded, he compares himself to powerlifters.Besides with his style and body he should be able to get 600, so hes has a point.
@GreenPhazon then this guys is doing differently perfect... wow look at the fullness of the biceps.. fi you want to know a good bb .. or a good physicue look at the hard parts .. its the pectoral minor and bicep long head and lower portion.. most bbb or people dont have those developed any well
Again...he's not fat, but he doesn't look like a bodybuilder. I think you're mistaking having reasonably low bodyfat with making you look like a bodybuilder. He doesn't train like a body builder either (the bench session he just did resembled a powerlifter's workout as he trained with 5's and didn't go to failure until the final set). He has low body fat, doesn't mean that he would EVER be mistaken for a bodybuilder. One could mistake him for a powerlifter though.
@TonganMammoth well said, but don't be fooled by the quick shots you see of them standing near to each other in these sweaters. Poundstone has alot more mass, visually that Evan. If they were to be posing side by side in their underwear (no homo lol) you'd see a difference like in the sheer size of Derek's quad's and the mass of his torso and mid section.
"I'm not much of a bencher"
"I'm working on a 600 pound raw bench"
It's funny but I think what do you mean to sit at 340 and under 6ft tall, his current bench press wouldn't make him a very competitive as a powerlifter. Even at 600 pounds that puts you in about the top 10% of the pros at untested events, but until you get into the mid 600s, the best guys at that weight are heading over 700 like the Russian, Scott Mendelsom and Ryan Kennelly, Eric Spoto, thev much lighter Larry Wheels and Stan Efferding are over 600 at 275, in a full three movement meet. That's really tough to do so Derek is incredibly strongbut it's simply being humble and realistic about his bench press when he compares himself to the very best in the strength world. no doubt to get a better bunch but again very few strong men are world-class bench pressers because if you get so obsessed on overhead stuff, you will not have the energy to put into flat benching to perform during the same training cycle with world class weight will have adverse effects on the other lips so it's better to specialize depending on when your next competition is scheduled whether it's strong man or powerlifting, whether its bench only or a full meet. They will all reflect a different trainingstrategy and if your training solely for a bench only meet your chances benching at your best is practically guaranteed with the right plan and right guidance.
Thanks for the vintage recs youtube.
"I'm not a big bencher. I'm aiming for 600lbs raw". hahaha, I could only dream of 600lbs.
Gavin Nicoll or yoi could do some test and press it
The power of Derek is clear and already fabulous, but I am realy surprised by Evan. He is very strong.
Thanks for post!
At 5:03 everybody in the gym stops and stares at the dude benching all the plates!! lol
benched 500 in there looks like the old dolphin fitness in wolcott. I remember benches side by side with Derek I hit 495 last set he set 465-470 9 years ago wow how time flies!
"You put another hundred pounds on that? Fuck that!"
Genetics, nutrition management, time and stuff like that also matters :P
uh oh he said he has been eating pop tarts, the hodge twins won't like that lol. Derek is the man.
wow these guys are just incredible
ive just recently changed to the grip to this and it vastly decreases the stress on the wrists as well as raised my overall bench weight i think it is far better than the normal bar grip
Centopante?
Derek is acting like the bodybuilder is as strong as he is, even though he's twice as strong, just shows how humble Derek is
@bwkrause there's a lot of good info on how warm up sets are critical for developing power and overall neuromuscular development for any athlete. some say it takes about 1000 reps in our sport to fully learn or change technique. either way doing warm up sets @ 30-50% 1RM will help you develop even better form in your lifts. later in your working sets you definitely notice the reps are a little more automatic as you're really dialed into using the body the way you want. our form of practice.
i love that in every video whenever he lifts everyone around him stops to watch.
Very impressed with Centopani's strength.
you can use more weight when using top half. thats the point- you get ur cns used to handling heavy loads and get stronger that way. same way people train the lockout of deadlifts with more weight than they can get from the ground.
Great to see, please put out some more of that.
its you against you thats the beauty of lifting
its like east meets west, i love this vid thanks MD.
big fan of Centaponi here, he's a younger guy and i respect his physique so far he's still got somewhat of an old school aesthetic look imo, i hope he maintains that n doesnt go for pure mass further into his career
what do you weigh, and what weight are you squatting?? the 2 most important things with squats are to keep your back straight and your knees behind your toes (verticaly) get a friend to make sure your knees dont come past your toes when you squat down.
Jesus... Poundstone's floorpress has almost the same range of motion as his regular bench... Incredible mechanics.
Benching 135 for these guys must be like us benching a pencil.
damn connecticut has produced some big ass dudes
i respect the powerlifters who actually care about their physique.
@acubanmissile he does not use roids. he has gifted genetics and the way he trains builds more power instead of looks which is waht a body builder would want.
omg...i just checked my quads...DAMN, i have some HUGE teardrops coming in
I totally agree with you. Everyone should definitely be marking all these poorly conceived spam comments as spam. They're simply everywhere in the fitness videos.
They can effectively train each at 100%. Think of your bench press, and where you get stuck. I get stuck at the bottom (where the deltoids are most important), so say I can get 275 there, but 280 won't break through. But in the top half (where chest and triceps take over) I can handle well over 280. By training each you can focus on the main muscle groups (bottom- delts/lats, top- tris, chest- throughout) with their maximum weight. On a full ROM my tris won't get as much work as if done separate
seems like a cool guy
Derek has one of the best looking bodies out of all the competing professional Powerlifters, well balanced and quite ripped.
Evan - "You put another 100lbs in there"
Derek - "Yeah"
Evan - "Fuck that!"
Bodybuilders are awesome and have amazing physique's. No one touches a strongman for strength and raw power
"You put an extra 100 lbs in there ... Fuck that..." lol
thats with a bench shirt. but mark bell can do somewhere around 830 with a shirt
Seeing these two at the gym would be like seeing Colossus and Beast (before he turned blue) or two other superheroes working out.
Evan is 250- in here, Derek is 340+. So its goes to show how strong BB are. 405x8 insane. I weight 240 and my max is 405x2
Sounds spot on to me. Keep going hard my man, be proud to be part of the low percentage of gym goer's that actually squat!
He's eating the same amount of protein as he was before, but he's added in more carbs and fats.
Evan: You put ANOTHER hundred pounds in there? Derek: Yeah :D Evan: Pfffftttt, fuck that.
@Feon2 yeah and he didnt even do a push press with strong hip and leg drive. he straight pressed it.
Suicide grip does not help you bench more weight it's a myth.....you actually have a stronger bench with thumbs around the bar and wrist not bent but straight
@steriods4champions indeed. bodybuilders aren't weak at all.
That flat-board chest press exercise is NUTS!... absolutely NO cheating can be done there... and it's crazy that they're doing such heavy weight in a movement like that with NO spot, but in the regular flat bench press they were... wish my gym had an apparatus like that.
0:39 is called "Black" by Sevendust.
well hes not exactly hanging with derek but he is pretty strong for a bodybuilder
Stop playin' with your shirt, Derek ! :D
i know that man, i just wanted to point that out so this other dude who said "900 minimum" doesn't trash out a real bench (raw) with shirt benching , because i think you know that a bench shirt adds a lot of power to a bench, so it's almost like a "fake bench" anyways i get your point, poundstone wouldn't even fit in a raw powerlifting comp, but he is indeed a big bencher for most people who work out
Apparently 5 people think they bench more than Derek Poundstone lol
perfect form
wow. poundstone goes real hard
yeah evan centopantay
550 3 board to 600 raw bench? Might take a while Derek!!!
Fuck that! Thats what they told me before I could bench 3 plates!!! =)))) A long way to go till 4 plates are over my head =)
If Derek Poundstone was a big bencher= 900 raw minimum by now.
there are so many ppl stopping and looking
Now evan is the one doing all the talking while the other guys the sidekick :P
Derek Poundstone says, "I'm not a big bencher ... I'm only going to use 60% of my max ... I just hurt my triceps so I'm going to take it easy today" ... Then proceeds to toy with 415 for easy reps ... DAMN!!!
GREAT
i did this week free squats first time ever... until then i di smith ones. that was thursday, and my legs are still sore as hell..i did 15-20 reps, and at the end i hardly could get a breath
84 kg. i did 40 kg, just to check my form. with the smith ones i did reps with 90 kg
lol, love the ending. Evan: "And you put another 100 pounds in that". Derek: "Yeah". Evan: "Pffffft, fuck that". XD
if i was rich i'd pay this guy millions to train me
A bodybuilding exercise would be one that powerlifters, strongmen, and olympic lifters typically never perform. Cable cross-overs, concentration curls, side lateral raises etc.
"Im not a big bencher buy im going to try to change that and get a 600 lb raw" what a monster
@JeanPauJean That'd be because he's a strongman... Not a powerlifter.
true but i'd say all bodybuilder's at this level are more or less this strong.
let's not go shooting off on a tangent, my comment specifically is referring to definition. Cutler has this sort of soft blubbery look to me in some camera angles, whereas Centaponi is more chisseled.
Derek Poundstone needs to come to the COWBOYS baby
Great video! Dont see 2 many bodybuilders hang and train with strength athletes!
good work bro. although i prefer to squat in a lower rep range, 8-12, but if you are just starting out then 15-20 is good. you make sure you keep your knees behind your toes??
Sevendust - Black
he says he wanna be well rounded, he compares himself to powerlifters.Besides with his style and body he should be able to get 600, so hes has a point.
i use shortcut to size, first week is 12-15 :) i'm trying, but my form has room to improve
@GreenPhazon then this guys is doing differently perfect... wow look at the fullness of the biceps.. fi you want to know a good bb .. or a good physicue look at the hard parts .. its the pectoral minor and bicep long head and lower portion.. most bbb or people dont have those developed any well
good stuff
The new youtube made me think for a second that this was a new clip...
Again...he's not fat, but he doesn't look like a bodybuilder. I think you're mistaking having reasonably low bodyfat with making you look like a bodybuilder. He doesn't train like a body builder either (the bench session he just did resembled a powerlifter's workout as he trained with 5's and didn't go to failure until the final set). He has low body fat, doesn't mean that he would EVER be mistaken for a bodybuilder. One could mistake him for a powerlifter though.
very interesting
look some videos of el porruo. A spanish powerlifter
feels good to use the full size plates though doesnt it?
@TonganMammoth well said, but don't be fooled by the quick shots you see of them standing near to each other in these sweaters. Poundstone has alot more mass, visually that Evan. If they were to be posing side by side in their underwear (no homo lol) you'd see a difference like in the sheer size of Derek's quad's and the mass of his torso and mid section.
Lol 5:00 everyone in the gym looking at him bench.
@ocpowerlifters yeah he is amazing and there are rumors he is natural
view 50 000 awesome vid
4:40 ... The gym stops as Evan presses the 405!
@Hamzy91 yeah kinda hard tho cus most of them train differently
yeh i don't think he meant percentage lol, that wouldn't make sense, i get what ur saying, he probably just meant more carbs/fats -> same protein
60 70 % and then 600 raw heavy shit
need more poundcake content!
3 POUNDS of chicken a day HOLY FUCK! LMAO
as i said before, he's wearing a 2 ply slingshot, so not raw, he still has the actual raw record though
He said hes trying to change the fact that hes not a big bencher and shoot for 600lbs
PFFFFTTT i could TOTALLY
not do that ever..
@kcirross i ment him the gear is wearing off im not a fan of derek but i give props because he is huge just seems a lil weak for his size thats all
The amount of food he eats per day is pretty scary.
If he uses the bathroom at the gym everyone better run
Is this like the notre dame or the cult of divinity got stock in that bro lmao
@TonganMammoth He doesnt even train bench that much and still puts up 500+ pounds XD
@dan13718 arent you talking about powerlifters because bodybuildings normally use reps in the 8-15 range