2023 Toyota Tundra | Owner Review | Likes and Dislikes (PART 1)
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Thanks for watching. This is my initial review of the 2023 Toyota Tundra Limited Crew Cab, Short Bed with the load leveling rear air suspension. I am very happy with this truck so far, but no pickup is perfect and the market is very competitive. In this video I talk about my why I bought it, my ownership experience so far, and run through a long list of current likes and dislikes. I love the towing features this Tundra has which were a driving force for my decision making. Hopefully it proves reliable in the long term, but only time will tell.
For clarification: After the first year you lose remote start via the APP, but you retain it via your keyfob. That's my bad everyone!
I just bought a 23 TRD 4X4. I really love the truck. It’s night and day superior to the previous generation Tundra. My biggest complaint with Toyota is not protecting the catalytic converter from theft. My 4X4 has a skid plate. However my 21 Tundra didn’t have one. My truck sit in a body shop for 6 months. I was told it would probably be a additional year before I could get the parts. Toyota needs to offer the skid plates on all of the Tundra’s.
I love the truck in gray. I just cannot get over the pricing of new vehicles. If I paid that much for any vehicle it would have to be making me money. Granted, I’m 54 years old so I’m in full old man mode (manopause). I also like the toy hauler video. Great review and I hope you enjoy them!
Yeah and newer cars offer way more than they did 10+ years ago.
I think that in about 6 - 8 months prices will drop. At the moment dealerships have a lot of Tundra's inventory and some of them have prices slashed/adjusted compared to what I pay /leased 4 months ago. Unfortunately we might not be to the prices that were in 2020 but saving 6 -8k is better than nothing.
They lost me at the subscriptions for the options that you already paid for...
Then your mad at all manufacturers for the same thing.
Not all manufacturers are doing it. Yes they subscriptions. However they still allow you to use the remote start without a subscription.
The subscriptions are for the app. Not for your vehicle, it’s misinformation. It’s done on purpose to get you to buy a crappy ford. If you don’t know your history they’ll keep fooling you
@@isilence4558 good to know
Turning radius being as poor as it is and terrible towing mpg as well as the front and not even a mother could love is why I would never buy one.
Really good review. Also very fair review. I recently purchased the 2022 TRD Sport and have driven around 13k miles with zero issues. The fit and finish is outstanding. Time will tell as it relates to reliability. This is my 5th Toyota truck and I can honestly say it is the total package of what a light truck should be.
How is the towing without the air suspension? I’m deciding between a limited with TRD off road package or one with air suspension. Hard choice as I will be hoping to do some off roading as well as towing
@@starkmevenson I wish I could give you an answer. I have not yet towed anything yet. If you are doing a lot of towing I would probably go with the air suspension. The Off Road is a great package for off road.
@@shanewhittemore thank you for the feedback Shane! Much appreciated.
Glad to hear fit and finish are not issues.
I had an 03 1st gen that I should have kept. Outstanding in every category.
The fit and finish is not outstanding. Full Stop.
Awesome truck! Great honest and thorough review! I currently own a 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner and plan to upgrade to the new Tundra someday. I love my Tacoma and it still runs strong. I've never had any major issues owning it over 20 years, but I need 4WD and something bigger for towing. You're right no truck is perfect, but IMHO, Toyota makes tough and reliable trucks.
I bought a 22 1794 Edition w/ 6.5’ bed in June. It’s manufacture date was May 2022. Now have 9,600 miles. I managed to get it for MSRP because it was a special order from earlier in the year but the sale had fallen through.
I bought it for the same reason. I plan on towing a 7,000 lb travel trailer/RV. It’s not a TRD trim so it has the auto leveling suspension. Only towed 5,000 lb utility trailer. No issues whatsoever. I have the same standard side mirrors. That was one of my concerns also. Between this and other reports it sounds like these will be fine for use when towing something larger.
Although we are Toyota fans, we did test drive a GMC Sierra Denali 6.2L and a Ford F150 Platinum 3.5L Ecoboost. We found the seats of these to be uncomfortable. Having driven the Toyota last, it was obvious the seats were better for us. This was reinforced when taking an 800 mile round trip shortly after the Tundra purchase.
Four people with 800 lbs in the bed, three different drivers. We averaged 21 mpg round trip. Very impressed with the handling on curvy mountain roads.
Do you have the v6twin turbo or the hybrid engine? I'm towing a 5000lb trailer and wondering which engine to go with. I hate losing the storage under rear seats when you get the hybrid. Currently have a 2018 GMC 6.2L V8.
Dude, incredible job going through the features of this truck! I have a limited as well, just without the air suspension (would LOVE if it had it, but I bought mine off the lot) and if I reviewed the truck, I would have mentioned the same things. I have most of the same gripes and likes. The seats were so hard compared to my F150 that I almost did not buy it, but I am glad I did. I have adjusted and appreciate the firmness on longer trips. I have not had wind noise, and my fit and finish is mostly fine. I am used to new vehicles having minor squeaks and creaks or misaligned rubber trim. Not a big deal. I love the ride quality and driver assist features the most, followed closely by the infotainment and bed features (tie downs, lighting and tailgate drop button on the side). While Toyota didn't bring anything new to the truck world, I think time will dictate that this truck is a reliable, comfortable, towing beast. I've only towed 2-3k lbs so far, but it is the most competent and stable towing experience I have had. It controls the load incredibly well.
Ultimately, it has a couple head scratchers and a few minor inconveniences, but the truck is outstanding and fun to drive. Thank you for your video!
Thanks! I totatly agree, it's got a couple headscratchers, but it's a great truck overall. I just got done towing my 3500-4k lb trailer about 210 miles and it was a fantastic experience. It pulls so strong at such a low RPM. That, plus the safety features made me confident in my decision moving to this truck. Hopefully it'll be reliable for the long term.
One of the best reviews I have watched so far. I have the 2023 Platinum Hybrid (4x2). I would parallel and agree with many of the preferred and wishlist/should-have features you mentioned. You didn't mention it, but other videos have; the infotainment system has some strange flaws, like not muting music when on a call/using voice (see Pickup Truck Plus SUV Talk). Increasing the number of trim-lighting stages and colors would be helpful, and having the tray above the glove box would increase the storage utility options! But I love the truck and believe Toyota did a fairly nice overhaul from the pre-2022 models (I have had several over the years!). Thank you for the comprehensive review!
Thank you you for the video! This vid actually persuaded me to get the air suspension vs the off road package. I’m excited to try it out towing my camper
Agreed I've had mine and it's given me none of the issues the reviewers have complained of. It's been a fun truck and there is some unfair bias that's being put against it since it's Not a v8 anymore and has a full redesign.
Yeah, I think Ford went through the same nonsense when they introduced the ecoboost 3.5. Yeah that had issues early on, but they've mostly got them sorted and it's been fairly reliable for folks. (Though, Ford still offers that 5.0 V8 for those who want one). I'm crossing my fingers for the longevity of this engine, so far I love it.
Most of the folks that actually own a 3rd Gen really love the truck. I think your right that there is a lot of frustration about the V8 being discontinued. If they are mad at Toyota just go buy another brand and be done with it.
Great overview of the vehicle. I appreciated that covered details that you covered
I recently bought a 2023 Platinum and agree with pretty much everything you said. It is a very nice truck and I am very happy with it so far. One small item is that the trans gear is displayed when you switch into manual shift. I'd like to turn off the auto stop start and there is a button to turn it off but it comes back on the next time it is started.
I love the platinum trim, very sharp looking truck. The gear indicator you're talking about is a little different for Toyota. It actually displays the max gear you will let the truck into. So an "8" would mean it locks out 9th and 10th gear and it will shift automatically 1st-8th, but it doesn't show the actual gear you're in.
Gotta get you the Tundra Platinum. That has a step that pops out for you.
Thanks for your video, lots of great detail and glad you mentioned those other reviews with issues they had. I have a 2023 Tundra Limited in MGM on order and due in mid Feb. and was worried about fit and finish; not to say that I won't be looking at it closely at delivery.
Very good info as the Tundra is one of the contenders to replace my '18 Ram 1500. What's funny is that I was mountain biking 4 days ago where you shot this review, Fountain Head Regional Park if I'm not mistaking!
Yes exactly!
Great review that is very fair. I have the 1794, with TRD package. I picked mine up in late February 2022 and it has been flawless over 12,000 miles. Great truck but like you said there is no perfect truck.
I like your taste in toys. I found you when I was researching the Kodiak 450. Ended up purchasing a 2021. Shortly after I that video I saw you purchased a Honda CRF 250, which I had purchased the previous year. Keep up the good reviews!
Well I think you and I have some great taste! Thanks for the kind words
I’m ordering the same one next week. This made me feel better.
Thanks for the great review! I am seriously considering buying a 2023 Tundra Limited.
This will be my next truck. I’m waiting till at least 2024 so hopefully they’ll have all the little kinks worked out and it’ll be as solid as we came to expect with the last gen.
The tow hook thing and having to pay for the features built into the truck is absolutely embarrassing
I feel like I read this elsewhere but I feel subscriptions are no different than leasing out our wants. Would love to see less subscriptions and more actual ownership of services. Great review!
Totally agree, thank you!
Great review I have a 22 pro love it lots of power rides great getting about 16 in city and on long trips about 22 mpg the mileage seams to be getting better as I put more mileage on it I have 7k right now
Trucks sure have come a long way and the Tundra is one of the best. Great review and thanks for the info on the subscriptions. I had no idea! Big turnoff
I purchased an 07 Fundra 4x4. Towed a 35' TT over the Rockies with no problems. Towed it for year's. The truck now has 287k still rocking down the road. If and when it does I will look for another 5.7.
This is an excellent review. I'm in the market so this is really helpful. Thanks! Jim
I find on the climate control settings why not just leave it in auto. Hot or Cold is does not seems to heat or cool faster by changing the temp. Heat will always be slow because it does not blow cold air in face until the engine comes up to temp. I literally never move mine off 72. I may slow the fan speed down just because of the noise.
Thanks for the video! I'm still considering buying one and I've been watching videos of other peoples reviews. I test drove a SR5 but I think I would want a Limited OR. The problem I'm running into is that they're hard to find to check out in person.
Unfortunately many of the trucks in transit to dealerships on trains are already spoken for. I looked at probably 35+ dealerships online before finding my truck. I hope you get to test drive one soon!
I keep finding them used at the dealers with 2k on them.
thanks for the video man Im looking for a limited as well and theres not many owners vids like this. Agree with you about the gear showing in the instrument cluster. Its nice to know. Any plans for bigger tires?
Thanks! No plans for bigger tires for this truck. I've done that before and sure do like it, but this is going to be predominantly my towing and hauling rig. I want to retain all the fuel economy and such that I can. When these tires are half worn I will probably get some Cooper all terrains in stock size.
Correction
I have the Limited TRD OF package and it has the automatic air dam. I also added tow hooks that I purchased from aFe.
Thanks for the review.
Oh no kidding - thanks for the correction!
Man you got the exact truck I’ve been eyeing to upgrade my Silverado with for a while! Same color I’d want too. Would be funny to have the same bike carried by the same truck, haha. One concern I had was if it would pull a large enclosed trailer (I use one for my business), as even my 6.0 v8 Silverado leaves some to be desired when it comes to pulling up some of the steep hills in this area. If my wife hadn’t purchased a new Subaru Ascent this year I’d have already brought one home though. The subscription service is definitely a bummer, but that is the flavor of the month in the business world these days. My Silverado only came with subscriptions to OnStar and SiriusXM. Also, did I hear you correctly saying that you need this subscription just to use the remote start? If so, that is absolutely egregious.
Hey John! That would be awesome to roll up to these races with matching trucks and bikes! I haven't pulled heavy yet with this truck (only 3,500-4,000 lbs or so at highway speeds) but in my experience it has tons of power in reserve. When I was pulling this larger trailer up and down I-95 and keeping with the flow of traffic, I never went over 3k RPM, it just pulls hard down low. In fact, it would pull steady and maintain speed, even up slight grades, at about 1,800 RPM. I think TFL Truck and others have towed heavy with it (9k +?) up the Ike Gauntlet and they said it performed very well. Luckily, all that torque comes on at 2,400 rpm. Also, I was corrected on the remote start issue. I think you keep remote start using the key fob, but you lose some of the connectivity features (lock, unlock, remote start, etc) specifically by using the app. I'm hoping to make the first couple races this season, so you can get a closer look at this one then if you like.
Great video; my lease is up on my F-150 and have been considering alternatives. It annoys me that the big three “American” companies only offer adaptive cruise control on the highest trim levels but Toyota is standard across the line with safety features. Thank you for addressing the issues that have appeared on many customer review sites. Curious if you have had the automatic braking work when you don’t want it to, as when you are approaching a line of cars starting to move when the light turns green or when you are parking and it applies the brakes when you are trying to move forward.
I might just buy my Ford at the lease end; it will certainly be the cheapest alternative. I agree that I like knowing which gear I’m in and the transmission temp gauge, both of which have come on even low trim Fords even in the previous generation. Ridiculous that they only gave you one key fob, but I’ve seen tons of trucks where the window sticker reflects small credits for leaving out the auto stop/start (a good thing) but leaving out THE STEERING COLUMN LOCK??? I guess I will see everything available when the lease is up in May and see what incentives may have returned by then. I’m sure Toyota won’t have them for at least a year.
I have had the automatic braking kick in when parking in certain spaces. For example, I'll back into a spot on the edge of a lot where there's tall grass and debris where the pavement ends. When I'm backing up, I can see the bumper will clear the debris and just brush against the grass, but the truck abruptly brakes on me - it's annoying. Our Rav4 has similar technology and I've experienced the forward braking issue in bumper to bumper traffic when pulling away from a light. That's because the person ahead (on a cell phone) didn't immediately take off, but I did and got real close (too close) to their bumper. It braked the Rav4 hard. What I did NOT like, is that it took a second of pressing the gas pedal to allow me to actually move forward. That, to me, seems like another safety issue. The vehicle had taken off, was 5-10 feet ahead of me, and I still couldn't go. All that said, if you just pay attention and make sure not to tailgate, then it never happens, ever. I'm still loving the truck more and more. Very happy with the overall package.
im confused with your limited. I recently purchased a 2023 Limited, which included the bed rear step and running boards. It also includes the TRD skid plate beneath the engine. It does not, however, include the rear lowering option. i HATE the PCS, and the seats compared from my 2017 to 2023 are smaller. other than that, the truck comes with some great features, but i do miss and rather have a V8.
Look at your window sticker, it probably accounted for the bed step and the side steps. So ultimately you probably paid for them up front. Mine just didn't happen to come with those items. I'll say I'm definitely in love with the twin turbo V6. I'll take the extra power, torque, and fuel economy all day long!
Great review that was well spoke. And organized with great audio clarity.
What’s the payload with the airbag option, did it increase at all or is it still in the 1400lb range?
Thank you! It's right at about 1400 (1395 to be exact). I know other trucks have greater payload, but that's plenty for me towing between 3k-7k lbs and a truck full of people and camping gear. The most I would typically haul is 800lbs or less in the bed , which leaves ~600lbs+ for other people/gear in the truck. At the most I might haul 1k lbs, but would likely do that alone. Cheers!
Why Toyota didnt have a built in step for the bed is beyond me, especially for its price
A+ review! Esp nice to learn about the lack of pocket stake holes.
Thank you! I peeled up the plastic coverings front and rear, confirmed, no pockets underneath
Hey man just want to say I just subscribed to your channel. I have a pretty similar channel as yours. I cover all things off-road related. I stumbled across your channel while researching some tires for my Renegade and been going through your content. A lot of great stuff, love he grizzly videos the Toyota stuff and the trailer build out. Keep it up 🤘🏻
Right on dude, I'll check out your channel and subscribe as well.
Excellent review. Did you paid MSRP?
Yes I did. I bought in December and I contacted no kidding, probably over 35 dealerships. I also looked at several dozen more online. In my research, at most only 15 to 20% of those dealerships were charging over MSRP. They were the ones in the major metropolitan areas. I think most dealerships are moving away from dealer add-ons and market adjustments for most vehicles.
Best review. You have a good delivery. Good luck with your site.
Thank you!
Glad you like it. My 2023 platinum was a disaster. Fit and finish was not good. Seat comfort in platinum was awful. I’m 6’3 215. Air suspension was sitting in the bump stops and was back at the dealer for 4 days. Hope you get lots of enjoyment out of yours. I had the hybrid and the engine was fantastic. I think there’s promise, but there’s a ways to go.
That sucks man, sorry to hear it. I really hope they get those issues completely fixed. That isn't something people should be dealing with on new trucks.
Toyota ain't what it used to be. Biggest issue I've seen has been the turbo waste gate with the new tundra. Their EV has wheels that just fly off. They are just living off of past glory at this point.
@@marklihsu Toyota is still what it always has been. You act like you discovered the waste gate issue. You know it’s been blown out of proportion by people like you right?
@@marklihsu You must just jump on bandwagons. Wastegate was a very early issue from a supplier. Since it was identified, they switched suppliers and had no issues with the wastegate. But go buy another brand and enjoy the problems you get from them.
Thanks!
Thank you very much!
the remote start feature is your forever, you don't have to pay after the trial period! you have to pay if you want the phone app to work with the remote start
That is good to know, thank you!
Is that for sure? I'm looking into that I'm thinking of a 2023 tundra and I can't find reliable info because idc if the app stops who cares as long as my keyfob doesn't require a subscription.
Great review -I have a 2023 Platinum on order in the same color as yours. It will not have the power running boards-really like the way yours look-could you provide a link to the one you ordered from Amazon?
Thanks again-Randy
Sure thing. They've gone up in price a bit. I think I paid about $265 for mine, but that could have been a holiday deal. I've had them on for about 3 weeks and they're holding up well. I would buy them again. Time will tell how they do over the long run. Here's the link: APS iBoard Style 6-inch Aluminum (Polished Flat Style) Running Boards Nerf Bars Side Step Rails Compatible with Toyota Tundra 2022-2023 CrewMax a.co/d/0D6FDfM
An easy solution for the hooks on the front, if it’s really about aero, would have been to have some kind of covers for them you could just pop off when you needed them. Doesn’t seem like it would have been that difficult for them to do.
Totally agree
Thank you for that awesome honest review. Very detailed and explained. I think that there are way to many people that are just 2 picky and complain about everything. Nothing is perfect. At least Toyota does what it can to do things right from the start and try to perfect it as time pases. You don’t see that from any other brand especially Americans.
I totally agree!
The auto start feature on the key fob will work with any subscription you have on the truck doesn’t matter which one
Thank you!
Very nice upload, so informative........I own a 2021 Tacoma Sr-5 and I'm considering upgrading to a Tundra. learned a lot....👌🤘👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you!
Now this is a real review
You didn't mention anything about the gas mileage. Toyota advertised with the v-6 turbo that it got between 22 and 24 mpg. I was wondering if that was true or not. I love Toyotas and that's all I drive but before I purchased a Tundra I would like to know the scoop on this issue. Thanks for your efforts.
Mine is rated at 17 city, 22 hwy. I get about 18.5 - 20.0 on my commute. I've gotten as good as 20.5 on the highway, but have only driven in winter, so I expect that to be slightly better in summer. Worst I've seen is about 16 on a really cold morning over a short trip. So, I'm happy with the economy so far and I cruise with the flow of traffic. If you get into the boost a lot, it's worse for sure.
I get about 22 mpg on the highway and 20 city on eco mode on my 2023 SR5 TRD Sport. I get about 15 mpg while Towing my 7,500 lbs travel trailer
Great to hear you've had a good experience!
And still having a great experience, well over 2,000 miles now (not many, I know), but loving the truck more and more. I'm about to tow this trailer full of quads and bikes over the mountains and I'm not stressed about it at all.
Apparently Toyotas proprietary navigation is only available through subscription. If that’s true, no reason to order it. Use the car play or android auto. Great truck.
totally agree. Looks like other manufacturers are moving the same direction with Apple carplay and andriod auto being so popular.
You had me until you said you have an android.
Kidding lol. Well done. Just picked up a 1794 & the wife got a limited.
Great review. Man, trucks have come a long way since I brought my 2017. I wish Toyota would come out with a diesel medium or heavy duty pick up. Toyota has always, in my opinion, made a great truck. BTW... I like the way you are mixing in things until the race season starts back up. Keep the videos coming.
Hopefully this new engine is even close to the reliability of the 5.7...time will tell.
Diesels are dead because of the epa
@@flight2k5 Diesels are not dead, if you were educated about them, you would know GM offers a diesel in the half ton trucks, SUV’s. Diesels are also offered in 3/4 and 1ton trucks. That could not be further from the truth actually. If anything, there are more options now. Yes, the DPF systems are a major pain to deal with, and affect the reliability. I would argue all day, that is actually worse for the environment, because people delete them, instead of having a cat. Unfortunately, We have to do deal with it, and have since 2007 now.
@@calebniederhofer6529 don’t be a little cuck boy.
@@flight2k5 I was just educating you about them. I guess people, can never admit, when they are wrong. Especially on social media.
funny thing, I've owned 3 2nd gen Tundras. Love them. I test drove a 2023 and broke the plastic on the seat getting out after the test drive. Got out the same way I always do on my 2015.
I see that hunk of plastic hanging there and think at 6’3” 325 it’ll be hanging there broken after a week.
Them new fangled contraptions. Spit ping
I don't understand this issue. Are people just sliding their butt out of the seat?
@@shawnlattimer8924 as it's stated, I don't understand the problem. Is this a weight issue caused by the way a person slides off the seat? Not trying to insult. I agree if it occurs, Toyota needs to address it.
@@JIPlatium for me, in the TRD Pro at least, my foot won’t reach the ground without sliding off the seat (without side steps in the truck ). In my 2015 I slide off the seat exactly the same all the time and have been for 8 years with zero issues. On the new design the plastic on the side of the seat sticks up high on the cushion. If you can’t lift off the seat it’s likely you’re gonna hit it. When I test drive a 1794 it was a lot easier to avoid hitting the plastic. I also knew to watch out for it after breaking it on the TRD Pro I test drove.
Tight like a Tiger - my favorite line!
I have a limited TRD off-road and it does have the active air dam.
The car industry need to leave those subscriptions right with BMW
I have the sr5 off-road premium and I really like it, I haul my 22 outlander 850 with it.
There is no tow hook because Toyota designed this tundra to match with the 2007 1000000 miles model. Tow hooks also helped the tundra be Top Pic+ in safety on trucks
this looks exactly like mine except I have the light gray interior and I have the bed step included but not the running boards which I need cus my 7yr old has some issues. Sounds like you have most of the same features, I found one full tech 360 cameras, load leveling, rearview camera, bed cam, tow plugs, bed plugs, bed lights, and all that tech I probably haven't played with yet. I kind of wish I went with the TRD off road but it was 7k more, though the extra drive modes and FOX suspension maybe helpful. There are tow hook mods that you can get and install on the frame, but you are right that should be a feature you could at least order. Especially on the TRD off road or TRD Pro you should be able to get tow hooks, front fender delete for better approach, and steel skid plates. Otherwise I love these trucks I think they are good looking and very capable.
Sounds like we have just about the same truck. I'm about to hit 14k miles with mine, not even a year old yet. I did end up installing some of the tow hooks that are on the forum, perhaps I'll make a quick video of that. I've got a whole playlist of videos on the tundra, including one covering some affordable sidesteps and mudflaps. Check em' out, thanks for watching!
@@ThomperBeThompin Oh yeah thanks I will look for that. I do want some side steps frame mounted. Just one thing I did forget to mention in my previous comment, I did have a fit and finish issue but the dealer fixed it a week later. I had the rear passenger bumper that had a clip failure so there was a gap between the bumper and the black portion under the tailgate. But, they had me come in color match it, ordered the bumper and within a week it was fixed so good overall experience from Toyota on my end.
@@punkchaz I'm glad to hear they took good care of you. Still no issues whatsoever with mine other than the single time. The fuel gauge read wrong but I fixed it lickety split
Hey - great review and video. A little bit of an odd question but is there anyway you can send me your VIN? I bought a 2023 tundra 1794 edition in Canada and it automatically came with tow mirrors which are just too big for me. I want to switch to these with the paint match but it seems to be such a struggle to get parts and find them when i speak to the toyota dealers down here. Anyway the guy at parts suggested I get the VIN of a truck that had the exact mirrors i wanted. Thought i’d ask but if you can’t all good.
I pay $14.99 month for MYGMC app with remote start, etc. I
I do have the front active airdam on my Limited TRD offroad...and you can manually deploy the airdam with the wiper switch...
I've been a lifelong Toyota guy. My previous tundra was an 07 5.7 that I owned for 12+ years. Great truck. I wasn't crazy about the looks but it was time for a new truck so I upgraded to a 23 tundra crewmax 6.5 bed SR5 lunar rock. I loved the interior overall and the powertrain was the best part but everything else was underwhelming and not living up to the reputation Toyota has built. Lots of cheap plastic and fit and finish was horrible. Mirror cap came off twice in the carwash. Window belt moulding coming off, tail lights have 1/4" gap at the top. 4wd and transfer case is sloppy and never wants to engage when you want it to.Lots of sag with minimal weight. I loved the tech. Overall felt more like a Tacoma than a full size truck to me, very small overall compared to my previous tundra. Not a bad truck at all but for over.$60k it doesn't seem to be worth it for me. I had no intentions of going to another brand but test drove a 23 Sierra AT4 diesel and it felt night and day different. The remote start, infotainment and heating and cooling are sooooo much better with the Sierra. Feels more stout and capable like a half ton is supposed feel. I keep my vehicles 10+ years and dumped the 23 tundra after only 4 months and went with the AT4. I'm much happier .
That's a bummer you didn't like the truck. I'm still very happy with mine and now have almost 6k miles. I hear great things about the diesel GM trucks. Great power and fuel economy. Enjoy that new truck!
I wanted an 8 foot bed. They found me one, but no one makes an 8 foot topper for the Tundra. So, I bought a 6.5 foot bed. Delivery date May 25, 2024.
I wanted tundra 1794 bed 6.5
I like the truck but the bed is too short. Maybe toyota makes a long bed good video
Thanks. Yes they have two longer beds. 6.5 and 8 feet
Very good review.
I got the manual tailgate step when I got my 2019 works great also can get them aftermarket.
Having to pay for remote start is a dealbreaker. Period. What’s next, a subscription to roll the windows down? A subscription for a thing that’s been around for a decade is so petty. 🖕🏻Toyota
Good thing I like the trailer back up assistance if you are not good for back it up.
The wheel complaint is not about does go all the way around the circumference. It doesn’t heat the inside area where you curb your fingers. Plus it don’t get warm enough and it shuts off and turns on. Rather than stay at one temp. Weird. It’s a great truck though.
🇺🇸Toyota fanboy here!
They will get it right in a year or two. As of now, it's just not as good as previous generation
Wow. You highlighted a number of things that are deal killers for me. I was leaning towards Tundra. Some things that must exist on any reputable truck, like tow hooks and skid plates are nobrainer must haves. Tail gate steps are such an obvious differentiator, why would you leave those off? So annoying to want to like the truck and have simple design choices ruin it for you. I’m here because I don’t want to buy another F150, but Toyota isn’t making it easy. Mind boggling to me.
And if I’m giving up a V8 I should get significantly better mpg, right? Silly me
Deal breakers are Red flags for me like 1 key and definitely subscriptions.
The absolute only reason they only give you one key to begin with it's because they know most people lose them and they're gonna have to pay to get a new. That's what they're betting on.
Not to mention dealerships I've seen this truck going for a $107000 at dealership hear me a couple months ago.
I settled on a ram 22, 4000 miles $16000 off sticker
Congrats on your Ram! Sounds like you got a great deal on it. Those rams are hard to beat for sure
Great point, never thought about that. Multiply that by 5000 you are talking big $$$$
When your turbo goes out on your ram. $9000 to fix. I have a 2018 dodge ram 2500 diesel. I have never needed a 2nd key. Any mechanic will tell you Toyotas are more reliable than any other truck. GMC’s are worse.
Great walk through. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Great review
Great video. 🎉How long is your trailer?
Thanks! It's just a bit over 20 feet. (16 foot box, plus a ~4 foot tongue)
why do you have a check engine light st 10:53?
does the air suspension come on the trd sport?
I don't think so
i love 2023 Toyota Tundra
you were better off waiting whether you had a choice or not on waiting on the second year of this trucks production. btw i am an owner of a 4th gen 4runner with the old 4.7 V8. enjoy the new truck.
This is a 23, so the 2nd year. It seems like most of the issues have been sorted out for the late 22s and these early 23s. Hopefully that's true. My buddy has a fourth gen 4Runner with that same engine and he's got over 350,000, mi on his! Legendary! Hopefully this tundra makes it to at least half of that trouble free lol
I currently have a 2012 lifted toyota tundra. I only get 12 mpg. Looking at upgrading to a new one with the v6 hybrid. Just wondering anyone on here have a new lifted tundra and if so what kind of gas mileage are you getting?
New to this:
I am thinking of buying a truck for the first time. I have been a big toyota fan for years with a sequoia, camry and venza for my ultimate favorites. My new job requires long drives and ladders so I heard great things about having a pickup. I have 3 large dogs that go with me and am planning on getting a trailer to take with me. Even though I am looking for a pickup, I am very interested in reliability and save as much on mpg as possible.
Questions I have:
should I look into diesel trucks? (Even though the maintenance is more expensive)
Who prefers the F-150 ecoboost vs the Tundra 3rd gen?
Thank you for any comments (if any).
Chevy's 3.0 diesel in their Silverados is a pretty great power plant. It gets incredible fuel economy on the highway though you do have to pay a little bit extra for diesel.
Great video. What size bed does this one have?
Short bed. About 5'7" ish
@@ThomperBeThompin thanks for the response. I've been looking at them and that appears to be my only gripe. They should all be 6'. Thanks again.
@@CrucialRC : So buy one with the longer bed. What's the issue?
Im debating buying a tundra over the f150 my dad has a 05 tundra and it has been a great truck. I know its a weird gripe but I absolutely hate that If i buy a dark grey or black truck with black seats the interior on the celling and sides comes only in that light color.. Makes it not match.
great content 👍 how is the fuel economy compared to 4runner?
Thanks man. It's pretty good. If I stay out of the boost (which isn't too hard) I get about the same, about 21 HWY and 17 City (but I easily exceeded EPA in the 4Runner). That said, cruising at 75-80 and it drops. I've been getting 18 -19 average commuting to work which is a solid mix of fast highway and city/suburban streets. The best I've seen on the highway is just under 21. I think the worst I've seen over a long trip is about 17 to 18 (the dirt bikes' handlebars sticking up above the truck roof in the rear made for some bad aerodynamics)
I think the key fob thing is on the dealer. I purchased and got two fobs before driving off the lot.
I might have to give them a ring
I know somebody that was given one fob this past week and one extra cut key and told that Toyota would contact in the next 3 to 4 months to provide second fob.. supply chain issue, so the dealer said.
Are you able to adjust the HVAC temp setting using your hands-free voice control button on the steering wheel?
My '13 F-150 Platinum has this feature..."warmer", "cooler".
I don't think so. I'll try it though. If it does, i'll update you here with another comment
I’m getting 13 mpg on my 2021 V8 towing a trailer for motorcycles . Why kind of mileage are you getting with that V6 turbo??
I've only had it in winter (winter blend fuels here) and am averaging 18-20 commuting, around 18-20 on the highway (moving pretty fast mind you), I got about 21 on a 100 mile trip staying at about 65-70 mph, and I just towed this massive wind-blocking trailer up and down I-95 loaded up with ATVs,dirt bikes, and got about 10mpg, but I was hauling butt. I have yet to try a 50+ mile highway trip empty except for the day I bought it (102 miles, 20.3 mpg).
With my old 5th gen 4Runner I used to get about 11 to 12 pulling a single axle utility trailer with ATVs and dirt bikes, and I'm pretty positive this would do as good or better towing the same trailer. I just no longer have that to do any testing with. The tundra got two MPG better pulling this big green trailer than the 4runner got pulling it and I was averaging a faster speed.
U have to pay for remote Start monthly? Wtf that's crazy.
Dealers want my 2020 bad,but no twin turbo for me,that engine will be wore out before 200k while my 5.7 is still going to 500k if properly maintained.
The subscription for navigation and app sercices i get, those have costs to maintain and update. Probably wouldnt pay it. But the key fob subscription is stupid. Id just install an aftermarket remote start.
So you keep it via your key fob (press three times and hold), but you lose it via the app.
I will keep my 2019
The deal breaker for me was the subscription fee for remote start!. Really??. Living in the great white north I want it, but only use it 4 months a year and don't feel I should have to pay every month for it when lm paying for a 70k truck.
Why blind spot monitor has no audible sounds
The problem is with these new trucks from every manufacturer are just to damn big. I’m over 6ft tall as well and drive a Tacoma because it’s the only truck you can reach over the side of the bed instead of constantly having to climb in the bed to reach things.
true...
You should have gotten the 6.5' bed
I definitely prefer it, but where I live, in the suburbs of D.C., the shorter the better. I think my next truck will have the 6.5' bed and I'll just deal with the terrible parking around here.
Can you send a link or describe the Carista, Karista device (how to spell?) you use with the OBD2? Thanks!
I believe this is the one I got: a.co/d/1VanFic
I really dislike the entire rear window goes down. That's too much for kids or dogs in the back seat.
The Tundra is missing the protector gard above the wheel.17:18...front and back .....this expose a vital motor component could cancel your warranty.
I believe Octane 87 has nothing to do with horsepower or torque, but only to do with “knocking” which is the engine continuing to work after the engine has been turned off.
Knocking is bad.
I believe increasing the Octane to 91 or 94 does not increase horsepower or torque but only stops “knocking”.
Am I right ?
RS
Knocking is definitely bad. My understanding is that higher octane ratings exist to help reduce the chance of knock (ignition timing?) in certain engines. Higher octanes are sometimes advised by some manufacturers in cases of high load and heat, like towing in the mountains during the summer months. Some turbo engines actually produce different HP and TQ numbers depending on which octane you put in. Always check the manual though as every engine / vehicle may call for different octanes for certain situations. I just pointed out how this truck requires ONLY 87 at all times, which is good cause it saves some cash.