Wonderful snippet for those who don't know the basic shots in Billiards, perfect timing right before the World Championships, great to see Robby back to show his wonderful style as is the same for Steve.
Thanks, we hope to stream this video before or after each match in the WBC in Melbourne and grow the game...it will be made available to all who are using it to promote the sport with online streams. Contact the Australian Billiards and Snooker Council.
Great video guys. Seems complicated. I’ve played snooker all my life for differing periods but never have i played billiards. This video really explained a lot for me and I’ll definitely be back to see more
Wow! What an amazing treatment of the game! A quick statement of the rules then a deep dive into strategy and terminology for folks to optionally really dig into.
Looks like a very interesting game! Only possible issue I see is that it suffers from the same issue as straight rail carom where skilled players can basically score infinitely, which makes for a very boring experience.
Yes Mick, it was created by the ABSC as a gift to the worldwide Billiards community to be used before any streamed Billiards matches as long as you acknowledge the source
I used to love playing this at home against my dad my uncle and my grandad on my table top 6x3 table it's such a good game and will improve your snooker and pools skills.
I just looks like a really big waste of space! I love snooker, and had a vintage Billiards Set years ago.. i don't think I'll be switching to this though 😂
It is not very interesting to watch but enjoyable to play. Give it a try before dismissing it, but not before learning the basic half ball losers as shown in the video (there is also a 4th one: place the red on the pyramid (pink) spot & your cue ball in the same position in the D as for the long loser. Hitting it half ball on the far side will be a loser into the far corner). It is a very aggressive game because there is almost always a scoring shot you can try to get.
And is it always played in rooms as beautifully appurtenanced as this? Because I'd give up kneeling in dirty alleyways shooting craps if that's the case.
Snooker - exciting yes, elegant no. Billiards is elegant, the huge side spins are completely seductive, but it's not exciting in the same way as snooker
Great explanation. Never knew anything about it let alone played. I can see why tables, at least in America are rare. Tables have to be expensive take up a lot of space.
In the UK the tables actually cheap. Lots of social clubs go bust every year and will practically give the tables to anyone who will take them away. The problem is having a room, sitting empty, big enough to put one in. Probably at least 24x18 feet!
@@oldbloke135 Not many houses have a room big enough (I have only visited one). It is perhaps interesting to note that houses with a room for the sole purpose of housing a snooker/billiards table will be called a billiards room even though the table is usually called a snooker table and will be more used for the game of snooker. This is probably as a result of billiards being the earlier game.
oh... very good... I'm 5/9 pins player but I appreciate details about other billiard games. Italian book by Vincenzo Testa "Il biliardo - sport e spettacolo" talks about this game
That was really good, but wouldn't it have been a good idea to mention the rule about re-spotting the red on the centre spot after two consecutive pots off the billiard spot?
Yes it would have been a good idea to mention it but we were limited for time, not wanting to go more than 5 minutes to fit between streamed matches alongside ads and sponsor messages.. We would have ideally also mentioned limitations of hazards (15) and limitations of cannons (75) as well as the limitation of red pots (2) and the baulk-line crossing rule. We wanted to make a brief introduction rather than a complete precis of the sport. Just enough to explain the basics for first time viewers. Of course there is much much more to the sport than could be covered in this brief intro. There is also something to be said for not over complicating an initial explanation. Hopefully we piqued enough interest for viewers to learn more themselves.
I see that the Billiard table being used in this video is the Cox and Yeman Billiard table. A classic design to play Snooker and Billiards on it is. I like it's design.
@@WorldBilliards Oh right. But it looked very much like a Cox and Yeman Billiard table though. But I do like the traditional net style pockets on these tables though; nowadays, many Billiard tables I've seen have rail pockets where the balls go through the net and roll along the rail and rest there.....
@@WorldBilliardsinteresting. Nice to play on a table that has some history to it. I once played a match on the table that Alex Higgins beat Jimmy White to win the world championships on. It was nice knowing that something significant took place on that very table 👍🏻👍🏻
I’ve always played that if you pot the red 3 times in a row, it’s spotted on the centre spot until it’s potted again, then returned to bottom spot. Process is repeated.
The rules currently are that there is a limit of only two pots off the Billiards spot ( black spot) before the ball is placed on the centre spot. That rules has changed a little over the years. To start with there was no limit and then it was tried with 2, then 5 then back to 2. It's about finding the right balance between keeping repetition out of the game but allowing enough creativity to keep the break alive. We could not fit all the limitations into a 5 minute basic video. There is much more to the graceful game than this very brief exposition.
If both spots are occupied then the red is placed on what is called in billiards , "the Pyramid spot". Snooker came after the table was designed for billiards. Snooker used the Pyramid spot for the pink ball, so you might know that place as the Pink Spot. @@Vladimir1128
2 questions: What happens if the black spot is blocked by a cue ball after potting the red? How does the game start? I assume that the red ball is on it's spot and the 2nd cue ball is not on the table until it is the 2nd player's turn.
Hi Dave, if the spot (black spot in Snooker) is occupied after the red is potted then it is spotted on the pyramid (pink) spot. If that is also occupied then the red is spotted on the centre spot. Yes you’re right about the start of a game. The first player plays from in-hand with the red on the spot. The other player’s cue-ball is off the table until they come to the table to play from in-hand.
English billiards is derived from billard francais and other continental variants. Like 3C carom it is a game of beauty and elegance, where the artistry of player is paramount. Not a game for the general public, but entrancing for those who understand
See previous answer to the same question. It's the same as every other game played on a billiards table or a pool table. i.e. When the other guy fails to score it's your shot. You play from where they lie.
@@EricPollarrd It may look that way, because these guys make it look so easy...give it a go and tell me how you went. Even for a tournament level snooker or pool player who is new to billiards a 20 break is a major feat. In this game the better the player the more simple it appears and these guys are the best in the world. Give it a try on a full sized table and report back.
Carom Billiards. Played in many countries but originating in Continental Europe. Pockets came much later than the original table games which were all about hitting two balls rather than targeting a pocket.
One situation I'm unsure about. If you pot a red off the spot, then on your next shot you pot a red off the spot and make a cannon in the same shot, does the red still go on the center spot? or does the cannon cancel that rule out?
Need an Android and ios game for English Billiards , there is hardly any and the one found is Carrom billiards which is extremely boring. WSC real games had billiards but you can only play both players yourself and has no CPU player so no challange.
Yes it has been described as "chess on wheels" and is both a mental and physical challenge. For those that love it it is perhaps its greatest allure. It's not for everyone, few will have the patience to learn this most complex and beautiful art.
Yes you should, it is a beautiful and elegant game. Best to find a playing partner to hit with in a club where someone knows the basics @@JohnJaySnookerChannel
You start again from the "D". If your opponent pots your ball it stays off the table until he fails to score with the 2 remaining balls. It is then your turn and you start from anywhere inside the D. Because you can also score in this game by going into the pocket off another ball it is not unusual to see long sequences of shots being played starting from inside the D. Therefore it pays to learn the standard "in-off" positions from the D. Every accomplished Billiards player knows where to place their ball in D to score using a knowledge of the half ball angle.
"Billiards" is a catch-all phrase for all ball games played on tables. The correct name for this game is English Billiards, but players get lazy and just say billiards when they mean English Billiards. The English introduced pockets to the European tables and made the tables much bigger. Thus English Billiards is the direct ancestor of Pool and Snooker.
Billiards is making a comeback in China whereas it doesn't attract big audiences elsewhere, they play true billiards with no pockets and a smaller table, these two girls are brilliant ua-cam.com/video/Ai-DGefm0n8/v-deo.html I would love to see tournaments of this kind in England but the British are too stodgy to accept anything new even though the game is the oldest.
I would agree but this would help positioning etc for snooker in particular. Good to practice if you have your own table but not really in a snooker hall
A game where you're REWARDED for sinking the cue ball? 😲😲 sign me up lol
In almost all of the games from Russian billiards it is also allowed to pot the cue ball :)
😂😂
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Sorry I'm late but you get awarded in in Russian Pyramid too if you pot your cue ball
In a game where you get rewarded for a scratch I would be a champion.
Wonderful snippet for those who don't know the basic shots in Billiards, perfect timing right before the World Championships, great to see Robby back to show his wonderful style as is the same for Steve.
This was an eye opener for sure
I play snooker, but I've recently started doing ten minutes of
billiards first. It has helped my cue-ball. A lovely game.
Okay, this looks like a pretty fun game...excellent explanation.
For anyone wondering who those two players are, they are Steve Mifsud and Robby Foldvari
Fodwari is the slowest player in the world and upset the top players with his painful slow play.
The best explanation of the game that I have ever seen. Well done gentlemen, and many thanks for your efforts. *****Five Stars *****
Thanks, we hope to stream this video before or after each match in the WBC in Melbourne and grow the game...it will be made available to all who are using it to promote the sport with online streams. Contact the Australian Billiards and Snooker Council.
Great video guys. Seems complicated. I’ve played snooker all my life for differing periods but never have i played billiards. This video really explained a lot for me and I’ll definitely be back to see more
Being a master at scratching, I would dominate this game
I’m about to play my first billiards tournament, so this is great! Thank you.
I guess you won😉
Wow! What an amazing treatment of the game! A quick statement of the rules then a deep dive into strategy and terminology for folks to optionally really dig into.
Awesome, I've long wondered how billiards works! Given my propensity to sink my own cue ball in pool/snooker, I think I might be well suited :)
I'm right there with you.
😂 me too mate
Excellent 5 minute introduction to the game
Bloody hell that lag was perfect!
Looks like a very interesting game! Only possible issue I see is that it suffers from the same issue as straight rail carom where skilled players can basically score infinitely, which makes for a very boring experience.
Oh for a lesson with the late, great, Walter Lindrum !
Been dead over 60 years now but what an amazing player. Videos of him in doing an exhibition are very enjoyable.
i felt like he was attaking me when he was calling things LOSER
I watch and play loads of pool and snooker but never looked in to billiards so thank you for making this video! :)
This, as well as 3 cushion billiards will immensely help your pool game and make your way more creative opening up so many new types of shots.
This is very informative. ❤❤❤
To all concerned, well done... something we can use to promote at local level competitions
Yes Mick, it was created by the ABSC as a gift to the worldwide Billiards community to be used before any streamed Billiards matches as long as you acknowledge the source
If one masters this game, they mastered ALL billiard games.
I've worked on Bathrooms smaller than those tables lol.
😂
I remember seeing this played on tv many years ago
I used to love playing this at home against my dad my uncle and my grandad on my table top 6x3 table it's such a good game and will improve your snooker and pools skills.
Quality video thankyou..x
No way I could remember all these ways to score. I always wondered how billiards differed from pool after watching The Hustler.
There's a lot more work for the umpire here than in snooker. No wonder they all look so thin.
I am not that thin. Look closely I am the ref in this video and I am not thin 😂
Ha ha! I should have said "fit". All the best@@mrdfw666
how it starts, where balls are placed
Great little clip, well done to all involved
It's annoying that by searching on UA-cam for billiards, just hundreds of Pool videos appear.
I just looks like a really big waste of space! I love snooker, and had a vintage Billiards Set years ago.. i don't think I'll be switching to this though 😂
It is not very interesting to watch but enjoyable to play. Give it a try before dismissing it, but not before learning the basic half ball losers as shown in the video (there is also a 4th one: place the red on the pyramid (pink) spot & your cue ball in the same position in the D as for the long loser. Hitting it half ball on the far side will be a loser into the far corner).
It is a very aggressive game because there is almost always a scoring shot you can try to get.
Enjoyed my first attempt at this game last night. That's my snooker well and truly ruined! 😆
still no idea what the starting position is? why did he put the other ball in the pocket?
MURT Would be very proud . well done Boy's.
Thanks Gary. hope you are keeping well. It will be an enduring legacy for the billiards community.
What a great game.
Simply awesome.
And is it always played in rooms as beautifully appurtenanced as this? Because I'd give up kneeling in dirty alleyways shooting craps if that's the case.
Snooker is the most elegant and exciting of all cue sports.
I most definitely agree ✅
Snooker - exciting yes, elegant no. Billiards is elegant, the huge side spins are completely seductive, but it's not exciting in the same way as snooker
Great explanation. Never knew anything about it let alone played. I can see why tables, at least in America are rare. Tables have to be expensive take up a lot of space.
In the UK the tables actually cheap. Lots of social clubs go bust every year and will practically give the tables to anyone who will take them away. The problem is having a room, sitting empty, big enough to put one in. Probably at least 24x18 feet!
@@oldbloke135 Not many houses have a room big enough (I have only visited one). It is perhaps interesting to note that houses with a room for the sole purpose of housing a snooker/billiards table will be called a billiards room even though the table is usually called a snooker table and will be more used for the game of snooker. This is probably as a result of billiards being the earlier game.
Where's this filmed, looks amazing.
@simoncrabb - this was filmed at the RACV Melbourne, which hosted the 2019 World Billiards Championship
oh... very good... I'm 5/9 pins player but I appreciate details about other billiard games. Italian book by Vincenzo Testa "Il biliardo - sport e spettacolo" talks about this game
I've seen other tables that look different to this with no pockets that is supposed to be billiards?
That's French billiards (also called Carom, I think)
The difference between billiards and pool?
That was really good, but wouldn't it have been a good idea to mention the rule about re-spotting the red on the centre spot after two consecutive pots off the billiard spot?
Yes it would have been a good idea to mention it but we were limited for time, not wanting to go more than 5 minutes to fit between streamed matches alongside ads and sponsor messages.. We would have ideally also mentioned limitations of hazards (15) and limitations of cannons (75) as well as the limitation of red pots (2) and the baulk-line crossing rule. We wanted to make a brief introduction rather than a complete precis of the sport. Just enough to explain the basics for first time viewers. Of course there is much much more to the sport than could be covered in this brief intro. There is also something to be said for not over complicating an initial explanation. Hopefully we piqued enough interest for viewers to learn more themselves.
iwrocker sent me here
I see that the Billiard table being used in this video is the Cox and Yeman Billiard table. A classic design to play Snooker and Billiards on it is. I like it's design.
Hi Sam, this is actually an Alcock & Co table. One of eight at the RACV Club in Melbourne which hosted the 2019 World Championship.
@@WorldBilliards Oh right. But it looked very much like a Cox and Yeman Billiard table though. But I do like the traditional net style pockets on these tables though; nowadays, many Billiard tables I've seen have rail pockets where the balls go through the net and roll along the rail and rest there.....
@@WorldBilliardsinteresting. Nice to play on a table that has some history to it. I once played a match on the table that Alex Higgins beat Jimmy White to win the world championships on. It was nice knowing that something significant took place on that very table 👍🏻👍🏻
I thought billiard tables didn't have pockets. What game am I thinking of??
There english billiards (one shown in the video) and carom billiards, which uses no pockets
Carom billiards? What’s the one with a mushroom looking thing?
@@JohnJaySnookerChannel Bar billiards.
I have a quick question. Where is the Que from the other player placed in the beginning of the Game
It's in hand.
I thought billiards tables had no pockets? I don't know why? Ì think I saw it on a documentary? Obviously I didn't and it's just in my mind 😂
Is the red ball smaller than the other two, or is that an optical illusion?
An illusion. They are all the same size.
Excellent vid! How does one’s turn end though?
same as every other game played on any table....when you fail to score , it's the other guy's turn
I've seen billiards tables without pockets. Why is that?
There english billiards (one shown in the video) and carom billiards, which uses no pockets.
I’ve always played that if you pot the red 3 times in a row, it’s spotted on the centre spot until it’s potted again, then returned to bottom spot. Process is repeated.
The rules currently are that there is a limit of only two pots off the Billiards spot ( black spot) before the ball is placed on the centre spot. That rules has changed a little over the years. To start with there was no limit and then it was tried with 2, then 5 then back to 2. It's about finding the right balance between keeping repetition out of the game but allowing enough creativity to keep the break alive. We could not fit all the limitations into a 5 minute basic video. There is much more to the graceful game than this very brief exposition.
@@formaline2004 what if the centre spot is occupied and the red ball has been potted twice off the Billiards spot?
If both spots are occupied then the red is placed on what is called in billiards , "the Pyramid spot". Snooker came after the table was designed for billiards. Snooker used the Pyramid spot for the pink ball, so you might know that place as the Pink Spot. @@Vladimir1128
@@Vladimir1128it goes on the pink spot
2 questions: What happens if the black spot is blocked by a cue ball after potting the red? How does the game start? I assume that the red ball is on it's spot and the 2nd cue ball is not on the table until it is the 2nd player's turn.
Hi Dave, if the spot (black spot in Snooker) is occupied after the red is potted then it is spotted on the pyramid (pink) spot. If that is also occupied then the red is spotted on the centre spot. Yes you’re right about the start of a game. The first player plays from in-hand with the red on the spot. The other player’s cue-ball is off the table until they come to the table to play from in-hand.
Avec ça, je peut enfin jouer au billard français.
English billiards is derived from billard francais and other continental variants. Like 3C carom it is a game of beauty and elegance, where the artistry of player is paramount. Not a game for the general public, but entrancing for those who understand
Still no idea how to play it. When the hell is it the other blokes go? 🧐🧐🧐
See previous answer to the same question. It's the same as every other game played on a billiards table or a pool table. i.e. When the other guy fails to score it's your shot. You play from where they lie.
@@formaline2004 but u only have to stand up to score
@@EricPollarrd It may look that way, because these guys make it look so easy...give it a go and tell me how you went. Even for a tournament level snooker or pool player who is new to billiards a 20 break is a major feat. In this game the better the player the more simple it appears and these guys are the best in the world. Give it a try on a full sized table and report back.
Please tell me what game is played on a table with no pockets? Thank you
Carom Billiards. Played in many countries but originating in Continental Europe. Pockets came much later than the original table games which were all about hitting two balls rather than targeting a pocket.
Where was this played?
At the RACV Club in Melbourne, immediately prior to the world championships held there in October 2019.
One situation I'm unsure about. If you pot a red off the spot, then on your next shot you pot a red off the spot and make a cannon in the same shot, does the red still go on the center spot? or does the cannon cancel that rule out?
No it does not spot on the centre spot,it starts counting again the two shots from the black spot before spotting in the centre spot
Thanks!
Wait so what is billiards with no pockets on the table then?
There english billiards (one shown in the video) and carom billiards, which uses no pockets
It is after 6 beers.
im still confused
Same 😂
Need an Android and ios game for English Billiards , there is hardly any and the one found is Carrom billiards which is extremely boring. WSC real games had billiards but you can only play both players yourself and has no CPU player so no challange.
'understanding' is a bit of a strong term, I thought cricket was delphic, but this ..... ?
as with most things English... lots of rules so intellect can overcome lack of raw skills..
Yes it has been described as "chess on wheels" and is both a mental and physical challenge. For those that love it it is perhaps its greatest allure. It's not for everyone, few will have the patience to learn this most complex and beautiful art.
@@formaline2004I feel like I should try it I never have
Yes you should, it is a beautiful and elegant game. Best to find a playing partner to hit with in a club where someone knows the basics @@JohnJaySnookerChannel
how does I of the player play if there bool go in 1 of the hole?
You start again from the "D". If your opponent pots your ball it stays off the table until he fails to score with the 2 remaining balls. It is then your turn and you start from anywhere inside the D. Because you can also score in this game by going into the pocket off another ball it is not unusual to see long sequences of shots being played starting from inside the D. Therefore it pays to learn the standard "in-off" positions from the D. Every accomplished Billiards player knows where to place their ball in D to score using a knowledge of the half ball angle.
I'm confused, I read billiards didn't have pockets.
This is English billiards. Carom billiards is the version played on pocketless tables
@@hobosliveson Thanks, I just looked it up. It seems extremely difficult.
what a job to have .. i spot balls lol
didn't understand one thing, think I'd learn better just by playing
But how does the turn end? I mean if you’re not even potting you are still playing 😂😩
My comment maybe a little late here but as long as you're scoring your turn continues. If you don't score, your turn ends
Not bad but I can't remember it saying when it's your opponents turn
Didn't hear anything about that either..
same as all other table games...when your opponent misses, it's your turn.
Wow, deliberately sinking your own cue-ball is _so_ counter intuitive.
So why do people call pool billiards its not even the same
"Billiards" is a catch-all phrase for all ball games played on tables. The correct name for this game is English Billiards, but players get lazy and just say billiards when they mean English Billiards. The English introduced pockets to the European tables and made the tables much bigger. Thus English Billiards is the direct ancestor of Pool and Snooker.
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Snooker glove??? Ridiculous.
confusing
Nice lag!!!
This game sounds infinitely more boring than pool.
Billiards is making a comeback in China whereas it doesn't attract big audiences elsewhere, they play true billiards with no pockets and a smaller table, these two girls are brilliant ua-cam.com/video/Ai-DGefm0n8/v-deo.html I would love to see tournaments of this kind in England but the British are too stodgy to accept anything new even though the game is the oldest.
9 ball pool better
I remember my dad teaching me billiards to learn basic cue technique, cannons, in-off etc.
당구라는 스포츠를 자주 즐기고 있기는 하지만 당구의 역사에 대해서 자세히는 모르고 있었습니다. 이 영상을 통해서 당구가 어떤 역사를 가지고 발전해왔는지를 알고 또 간단한 룰에 대해서도 알게되었습니다.
Why do some players wear those stupid looking gloves
So the cue does not stick when their hands get sweaty.
Great video and a stunning table too, looks like it is made from Australian Blackwood or Hawaiian Koa (similar Acacia)
Snooker and pool seem far more interesting.
I would agree but this would help positioning etc for snooker in particular. Good to practice if you have your own table but not really in a snooker hall
Brilliant job
I am here bcoz Khabib Nurmagomedov played billiards on pool table. hahahhah