If you want to get nerdy, it's important to note that the energy of the projectile is proportional to the square of the speed. Therefore, a 1600 ft per second round has about 75% more energy than a 1200 ft per second round, assuming the same weight bullet, even though it's going only 33 percent faster. Some 5.7 ammo can go 2400 ft per second or more. Such a round would have four times as much energy as the same slug at 1,200 ft per second.
It's also important to not that the energy of the projectile is mostly irrelevant in handguns, especially if the round passes through. Momentum has more of an impact on the ability to interrupt an attack and speed is linear there.
@@xckk5849 I don't understand the "linear" comment, but the "passes through" comment is very interesting, and certainly valid, especially with this cartridge.
@@xckk5849 Say what? The greater the degree of energy deposition/kinetic transfer to tissue = The greater the degree of permanent tissue disruption. This is irrespective of whether the bullet is fired from a handgun or rifle.
A buddy of mine got one when it first came out. He also found some of the original military rounds. These rounds would go through multiple Kevlar vests, much better than 7.63x25. While vaporizing cans of soda, we noticed that it wasn't penetrating some of the cans. We found a can with the bullet sitting in the exploded can in reloadable condition. This ammunition was quickly prohibited, but with the penetration and hydro shock was unbelievable. I still have the bullet and the rifling is clear. Comparison to 22 WMR is ridiculous.
I am 70yo and in 1974 I got a Sharpshooter Ribbon in the Air Force. I could shoot anything because my Father taught me to. But in ALL of my years of shooting I have never seen a more Natural Shooter than you. I have been Subscribed to your channel for years and I am sorry for what UA-cam is doing to your channel, it is not right or fair. Dont worry though, these Perverts will be gone very soon and we can enjoy America once again.
I had the pleasure of shooting one and it’s all that. Quality, reliability, velocity, accuracy…even tho she’s “blasty” like a .30 carbine chambered pistol. The only problem is that those rounds are some spendy little critters. Good thing that they’re reloadable.
My wife carries one and has for years, with the standard 20 round magazine and a backup 30 round magazine !!! We researched the ballistics extensively and it holds its own against any carry caliber !! All this with capacity and extremely low recoil, it’s in a class by itself !! ❤️❤️❤️❤️ .
@@HarupertBeagleton-dz5gw It's a rodent. Nation needs to grow a pair. I love animals too but it's not something to collectively mourn as a nation. Almost half a million children have been smuggled across our border since 2020 and none of them are accounted for. Their parents do not know their whereabouts and they are indebted to the smugglers who brought them and used for all kinds of heinous behaviors. That's what the nation should be mourning. A world record number of undocumented child slaves now exist within our border. We should be raging.
I looked at this years ago and the things that steered me away were wound channel characteristics, hyper penetration, velocity and collateral damage to the back drop. My top shelf pistols are FN, just not in this chambering.
I bought the beautiful Ruger 57 because it is one of the safest pistols in the word. It is NOT fully cocked when the slide is racked; pulling the light trigger finishes the cocking and lets the internal HAMMER fall on the waiting firing pin. The ambi manual safeties are useful for UTTER safety, but can be ignored too. The high velocity round has very little rise and fall, plus little wind drift, so it is very easy to shoot accurately, not to mention the light recoil for staying on target. The cartridge also has little ability to over-penetrate either; it dumps all of its velocity energy almost instantly, without much left to escape the target...........................elsullo
I'm a Fabrique National employee, I fire 3000 rounds per pistol/rifle as part of QC. The 5.7 is far the easiest to shoot because of the very low recoil. Unlike the HP, shooting that the whole day will make your hands sore at the end of the day. I prefer this one over anything. Doesn't make you odd. 1 .50 Cal round is around 15 dollar in the US if I'm not mistaken and doesn't apply for situations like home defence or daily carry. All practical purposes.
@@Beavis-420 Not really, prices for .50 cal rounds are about 5 to 7 dollars on average. And some states are trying to ban it, which is unconstitutional for us. They're powerful cartridges, but rather limited in their application. Still, I think anyone should own one if they want. I think the 5.7 round is pretty cool as well, and thank FN for designing it. A nice longer range round that gives the handgun format a bit more distance.
I’ve had one since 04, and carried it on occasions I prefer a smaller micro 9 for comfort but I’ve found myself in areas that having a 20 round magazine and a back up 30 round magazine is preferred. If you are going to carry one as a self defense weapon do not carry the blue tip FN ammo or hollow points the round does not have enough mass to make it effective as a an expanding round the American eagle fmj are known to tumble in soft targets similar to the 5.56 55 grain fmj and this makes them more effective than the very limited expansion and energy transfer of the hp rounds. They also more effective at penetrating cover and while not AP rounds they have a better chance against level 3 soft armor.
The big sell for it is that it can penetrate soft body armor. Indeed it can, but the overall ballistics are less effective than 9mm and it's way more expensive to shoot. It's not really a surprise that they dont sell well.
Hmmm, interesting comments. My opinion... caliber in a handgun is almost unimportant - within reason (.25 auto need not apply...) - what's important with a handgun is hitting what you're shooting at, which most handgunners are very poor at. Hitting your target is a matter of many hours and thousands of rounds of practice. Most handgunners would be more effective spending their money on range fees, ammo, and targets than a different handgun.
Certainly a cool round from a technical perspective, and obviously the gun manufacturer makes a great product. But one has to ask why a normal person would ever need to consider it, given that 9 mm is perfectly adequate and significantly less expensive, and there are many excellent and significantly less expensive firearms to shoot it from. Basically, 5.7 is an expensive novelty that's fun to play with for folks who enjoy firearms and can afford to buy extra pistols.
My brother gave up his .45 for the 5.7 after he was injured in Iraq in 2004. His war injuries would not allow recoil any longer. FN 5.7 and its negligible recoil is his go to if needed, though his desire to shoot much any more has waned post Iraq. Nadal Hassan used the 5.7 in the Ft. Hood massacre.
I dunno. I know that 38SW is under rated bigtime. Also 30-30. Heavy slow is better SD than light fast... maybe. Controllable and not excessive noise is better than super sonic unless your long range hunting.
Is that one of those pistols that shoots a mini Rifle looking cartridge? I'd rather stay with readily available ammunition for any firearm considering the time's we're in. You don't want a firearm with a rarity for ammunition.
That’s the way I see it. I choose a firearm based on ammo availability. The latest greatest caliber ammo always stays scarce and expensive for a good long time. That’s not for me.
Yes very much so is overrated on small game and stuff like that probably a nice cartridge but in most of the testing that I've seen it's not any more impressive than 9 mm
There's reasons. #1, most people can't even find it, and just don't care for it. It's just like 21sharp. No one cares for a more expensive .22 round that barely edges it out in accuracy compared to LR. The only thing it has going is extreme speed so it will edge out LR in penetration.
Am I saying I wouldn't take a Ps90? No. I'm just not a fanboi like a lot if other people. Too much hype like 300blk, .50 beowolf, and the like. Too expensive for what it is. Who wants to pay $30-35 to load up one mag? Not this guy.
I'm 53 & a Army veteran 🪖 , 4yr. Armed G security officer; since 2000. There are far better ccw/defense calibers out there- 9x19mm, .357magnum, .44spl, 10mm, .45acp, .357sig, .380acp.
@@MikeInOregon yeah. Just buy a 5.7 and it's essentially the same thing. A high velocity, small projectile. Instead of a 10.5inch "Pistol" AR that can't fit in a wasteband, the 5.7 actually fills that role in a compact, concealable package. If I'm gonna have a "pistol" that I can't carry on my person, then why not just have a full size?
A very misunderstood cartridge. While the body armor the pistol was meant to defeat is obsolete 5.7x28 makes a dandy PCC cartridge. Similar ballistics to 7.62x39 out of a 16" barrel.
@dbmail545 it doesn't necessarily mean someone is poor if they say something is "expensive and overrated"... some ppl have the common sense and logical thinking to not throw their money away... $40-60 for 50 rounds of 5.7 or $15-23 for 50 rounds of 9mm for a fun day at the the range... I'll take 9mm
If you could get the forbidden rounds that the protection people (who it was made for) use it so on full auto, you stay on target. There are 7 different types of rounds, and a class 4 vest will not stop some of them. you had to adjust your aim to be on target rather then compensate for rise.
Continuing to showcase the Carhartt brand on your videos only helps a company that strategically forced its employees to take the jab, and heartlessly fired those who did not comply... Do better...
When speed is the issue there is nothing faster than a hammerless revolver in your coat pocket with it firmly in your grip. Self-defense shooting within 5 meters rarely get past a Grand Jury. Beyond 5 meters often goes to trial. A pistol on the hip must be brought to bear - a revolver in the coat pocket is already there.
Except that one doesn't go around always walking with hands in pockets. There are also pistols that can be carried in the pocket should that carry method be preferred with more ammo capacity than a revolver.
It was designed to defeat this certain armor that no one uses anymore. It still has uses, mainly if you have a P90 and are hunting stuff like coyotes or hogs.
If you want to get nerdy, it's important to note that the energy of the projectile is proportional to the square of the speed. Therefore, a 1600 ft per second round has about 75% more energy than a 1200 ft per second round, assuming the same weight bullet, even though it's going only 33 percent faster. Some 5.7 ammo can go 2400 ft per second or more. Such a round would have four times as much energy as the same slug at 1,200 ft per second.
It's also important to not that the energy of the projectile is mostly irrelevant in handguns, especially if the round passes through. Momentum has more of an impact on the ability to interrupt an attack and speed is linear there.
@@xckk5849 I don't understand the "linear" comment, but the "passes through" comment is very interesting, and certainly valid, especially with this cartridge.
Physics is absolutely awesome
@@xckk5849 Say what?
The greater the degree of energy deposition/kinetic transfer to tissue = The greater the degree of permanent tissue disruption. This is irrespective of whether the bullet is fired from a handgun or rifle.
Hence why the 460 s&w is actually superior to the 500. Not many people understand this seemingly simple physics concept
A buddy of mine got one when it first came out. He also found some of the original military rounds. These rounds would go through multiple Kevlar vests, much better than 7.63x25. While vaporizing cans of soda, we noticed that it wasn't penetrating some of the cans. We found a can with the bullet sitting in the exploded can in reloadable condition. This ammunition was quickly prohibited, but with the penetration and hydro shock was unbelievable. I still have the bullet and the rifling is clear. Comparison to 22 WMR is ridiculous.
I am 70yo and in 1974 I got a Sharpshooter Ribbon in the Air Force. I could shoot anything because my Father taught me to. But in ALL of my years of shooting I have never seen a more Natural Shooter than you. I have been Subscribed to your channel for years and I am sorry for what UA-cam is doing to your channel, it is not right or fair. Dont worry though, these Perverts will be gone very soon and we can enjoy America once again.
Well said, brother. Thank you for your service
I had the pleasure of shooting one and it’s all that. Quality, reliability, velocity, accuracy…even tho she’s “blasty” like a .30 carbine chambered pistol. The only problem is that those rounds are some spendy little critters. Good thing that they’re reloadable.
My wife carries one and has for years, with the standard 20 round magazine and a backup 30 round magazine !!! We researched the ballistics extensively and it holds its own against any carry caliber !! All this with capacity and extremely low recoil, it’s in a class by itself !!
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5.7mm: Preferred firearm of NYC animal control. In case the next squirrel has level 4 plates.
lol Too soon, the nation is still healing
@@HarupertBeagleton-dz5gw It's a rodent. Nation needs to grow a pair. I love animals too but it's not something to collectively mourn as a nation.
Almost half a million children have been smuggled across our border since 2020 and none of them are accounted for. Their parents do not know their whereabouts and they are indebted to the smugglers who brought them and used for all kinds of heinous behaviors.
That's what the nation should be mourning. A world record number of undocumented child slaves now exist within our border. We should be raging.
When shooting the FN you can feel speed of the shot. It flies fast and straighter further out. It's what I imagine how a laser gun would shoot.
Stretch that round out, sir! It's a distance round meant for that far gong of yours.
I looked at this years ago and the things that steered me away were wound channel characteristics, hyper penetration, velocity and collateral damage to the back drop. My top shelf pistols are FN, just not in this chambering.
I bought the beautiful Ruger 57 because it is one of the safest pistols in the word. It is NOT fully cocked when the slide is racked; pulling the light trigger finishes the cocking and lets the internal HAMMER fall on the waiting firing pin. The ambi manual safeties are useful for UTTER safety, but can be ignored too. The high velocity round has very little rise and fall, plus little wind drift, so it is very easy to shoot accurately, not to mention the light recoil for staying on target. The cartridge also has little ability to over-penetrate either; it dumps all of its velocity energy almost instantly, without much left to escape the target...........................elsullo
I really would like one from S&W, ive shot the FN and its a lot of fun. Right at .50 a round for the cheaper ammo. Hard to train with economically.
These "little bastards" 5.7 FN and .17 HMR intrigue me MORE than .50 BMG, Yeah, I'm odd.
I'm a Fabrique National employee, I fire 3000 rounds per pistol/rifle as part of QC. The 5.7 is far the easiest to shoot because of the very low recoil. Unlike the HP, shooting that the whole day will make your hands sore at the end of the day. I prefer this one over anything. Doesn't make you odd. 1 .50 Cal round is around 15 dollar in the US if I'm not mistaken and doesn't apply for situations like home defence or daily carry. All practical purposes.
@@Beavis-420 Not really, prices for .50 cal rounds are about 5 to 7 dollars on average. And some states are trying to ban it, which is unconstitutional for us. They're powerful cartridges, but rather limited in their application. Still, I think anyone should own one if they want.
I think the 5.7 round is pretty cool as well, and thank FN for designing it. A nice longer range round that gives the handgun format a bit more distance.
Yer not odd !! pelosi- she's pretty f'n odd !!
My favorite thing about it is you can carry a P-90 and the 5.7 and you only need one amo type
Only 15rounds in Illinois.😮
Its like .223 pistol in rifle world:)
But is it worth?
I’ve had one since 04, and carried it on occasions I prefer a smaller micro 9 for comfort but I’ve found myself in areas that having a 20 round magazine and a back up 30 round magazine is preferred. If you are going to carry one as a self defense weapon do not carry the blue tip FN ammo or hollow points the round does not have enough mass to make it effective as a an expanding round the American eagle fmj are known to tumble in soft targets similar to the 5.56 55 grain fmj and this makes them more effective than the very limited expansion and energy transfer of the hp rounds. They also more effective at penetrating cover and while not AP rounds they have a better chance against level 3 soft armor.
The cinder block answered the overrated question 🤦♂️
That bird is doing some serious back talking! It needs some 5.7 lovin!
The big sell for it is that it can penetrate soft body armor. Indeed it can, but the overall ballistics are less effective than 9mm and it's way more expensive to shoot. It's not really a surprise that they dont sell well.
I have the old FNH 5.7
Still love shooting it
Noones ever survived a shot center mass with 5.7 …
Where did u get this info 😂
@@32orbetter34
He got it from the Encyclopedia of Backyard Ballistics.
@@32orbetter34 it's called being a fanboi. Just like the glockies, and now siggies.
I’ve got a bullet hole in my abdomen and left forearm that says you don’t know di ck!
@alanhelton not your chest tho😂 learn to read
I find it personally inadequate for anything but small game.
I’ve personally been shot by this caliber. I’ve felt many worse things in life.
Who shot you with a 5.7? 😮 I would like to hear this story
Hmmm, interesting comments. My opinion... caliber in a handgun is almost unimportant - within reason (.25 auto need not apply...) - what's important with a handgun is hitting what you're shooting at, which most handgunners are very poor at. Hitting your target is a matter of many hours and thousands of rounds of practice. Most handgunners would be more effective spending their money on range fees, ammo, and targets than a different handgun.
Personally speaking, I own a Ruger 57. Same cartridge, same capacity, about half the price of an FN 5.7.
Certainly a cool round from a technical perspective, and obviously the gun manufacturer makes a great product. But one has to ask why a normal person would ever need to consider it, given that 9 mm is perfectly adequate and significantly less expensive, and there are many excellent and significantly less expensive firearms to shoot it from. Basically, 5.7 is an expensive novelty that's fun to play with for folks who enjoy firearms and can afford to buy extra pistols.
Home intruders wearing kevlar
@@HarupertBeagleton-dz5gw😂
Arthritis sufferers.
The only herstal I ever tried was completely inaccurate and unimpressive and that’s a compliment to what it actually was.
I like 22 wmr and 22 hornet as well
My brother gave up his .45 for the 5.7 after he was injured in Iraq in 2004. His war injuries would not allow recoil any longer. FN 5.7 and its negligible recoil is his go to if needed, though his desire to shoot much any more has waned post Iraq. Nadal Hassan used the 5.7 in the Ft. Hood massacre.
Yes unfortunately that incident proves 5.7 is more than enough
Military version 3,500 feet per second
When he said the bullets were 127 grs, I thought Damn!! that must be some really long bullets (: At 2:23 on video.
Yeah, I heard that too and had to go back. I knew they were only normally around 30 gr so I figured I had just misheard him. Nope.
What is that bird in the background Hickock?
Great video thank you 😊
Only SD ammo worth a damn for this is RR 37.X
It's a gun we all fell in love with in black ops 2 than we got one in real life and we are like eh
I dunno. I know that 38SW is under rated bigtime. Also 30-30. Heavy slow is better SD than light fast... maybe. Controllable and not excessive noise is better than super sonic unless your long range hunting.
I see you have the car alarm birds as well. 😄
Is that one of those pistols that shoots a mini Rifle looking cartridge? I'd rather stay with readily available ammunition for any firearm considering the time's we're in. You don't want a firearm with a rarity for ammunition.
That’s the way I see it. I choose a firearm based on ammo availability. The latest greatest caliber ammo always stays scarce and expensive for a good long time. That’s not for me.
HickOk got a gun that feels good in his big bear claws.
Try the 4.6 x 26 round 😉 body armor doesn’t stop it whatsoever
I’ll stick with .40 and 10mm
My fav in counter strike.
Yes very much so is overrated on small game and stuff like that probably a nice cartridge but in most of the testing that I've seen it's not any more impressive than 9 mm
OF course you have me at FN!
The point of 5.7 is it can defeat armor but nobody carries the rounds that do that. Theres only like 3
@@David-l7o1e Actually, it was developed to defeat a certain armor that is no longer in use. One month old fanboi needs to learn something.
Why is .22 Hornet never compared?
There's reasons. #1, most people can't even find it, and just don't care for it. It's just like 21sharp. No one cares for a more expensive .22 round that barely edges it out in accuracy compared to LR. The only thing it has going is extreme speed so it will edge out LR in penetration.
Am I saying I wouldn't take a Ps90? No.
I'm just not a fanboi like a lot if other people. Too much hype like 300blk, .50 beowolf, and the like. Too expensive for what it is. Who wants to pay $30-35 to load up one mag? Not this guy.
fN best gun i ever shot.
No but Glocks certainly are.
Never cared for 5.7
I'm 53 & a Army veteran 🪖 , 4yr. Armed G security officer; since 2000. There are far better ccw/defense calibers out there- 9x19mm, .357magnum, .44spl, 10mm, .45acp, .357sig, .380acp.
One of the best firearms ever made.
No:)
It's over priced, and that's all that matters to me.
😢(Cries in poor)
But, Hickock...will it smoke pot? 🤨
You're better off with a 357 Sig.
.357sig is not "ideal" but you can defend yourself with it. High KE level 🥊 , high vel.
It's funny because high KE's and high velocities are two of the reasons why many of us feel that the 357 Sig is indeed "ideal".
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Hand held AR basically
.223 rifle :)*
lol
You do know you can get, or build a “handheld” AR?
@@MikeInOregon yeah. Just buy a 5.7 and it's essentially the same thing. A high velocity, small projectile. Instead of a 10.5inch "Pistol" AR that can't fit in a wasteband, the 5.7 actually fills that role in a compact, concealable package.
If I'm gonna have a "pistol" that I can't carry on my person, then why not just have a full size?
@@OGbqze you said “handheld”, not “concealable”.
Short answer, Yes, yes it is.
Yes!!!! Love the 5.7!!
A very misunderstood cartridge. While the body armor the pistol was meant to defeat is obsolete 5.7x28 makes a dandy PCC cartridge. Similar ballistics to 7.62x39 out of a 16" barrel.
I know its overpriced.
FN for ever
I think I like 7.5 fk brno more :-)
Expensive and over rated cartridge ...
But fun!
Tell me you're poor without using that word.
@@dbmail545 Tell us you're a g. A. Y. Fanboi without telling us you're a g. a. Y. Fanboi.
@@dbmail545 Wealthy people can often be cheap, frugal. ✅️
@dbmail545 it doesn't necessarily mean someone is poor if they say something is "expensive and overrated"... some ppl have the common sense and logical thinking to not throw their money away... $40-60 for 50 rounds of 5.7 or $15-23 for 50 rounds of 9mm for a fun day at the the range... I'll take 9mm
Cool bro we don’t care
Overrated? It’s a useless gun to show people.
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Is it normal for a .22 to be that loud?
Its not normal.22:)
Anything going supersonic is that loud.
If you could get the forbidden rounds that the protection people (who it was made for) use it so on full auto, you stay on target. There are 7 different types of rounds, and a class 4 vest will not stop some of them. you had to adjust your aim to be on target rather then compensate for rise.
I am a blue collar bastard. A teacher isn't. Lol.. Carhardt.
Continuing to showcase the Carhartt brand on your videos only helps a company that strategically forced its employees to take the jab, and heartlessly fired those who did not comply... Do better...
When speed is the issue there is nothing faster than a hammerless revolver in your coat pocket with it firmly in your grip. Self-defense shooting within 5 meters rarely get past a Grand Jury. Beyond 5 meters often goes to trial. A pistol on the hip must be brought to bear - a revolver in the coat pocket is already there.
Appendix.
Nothing's faster.
Except that one doesn't go around always walking with hands in pockets. There are also pistols that can be carried in the pocket should that carry method be preferred with more ammo capacity than a revolver.
@@onegudman7 except let's see those pistols function from inside the pocket.
Yes, its an expensive hyped 7.62x25
…cue all the larper comments; ‘bruh, it defeats body armor’
It was designed to defeat this certain armor that no one uses anymore. It still has uses, mainly if you have a P90 and are hunting stuff like coyotes or hogs.
@ found one
no.. it's not overrated. ;p
I think the cinder block would disagree.
It's FN overrated.
5.7mm: Preferred firearm of NYC animal control. In case the next squirrel has level 4 plates.
@MikeInOregon : I'm guessing you haven't seen the Sewer Rats in NYC? Big as Pitbulls!