10 Most Hated Star Trek Characters
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Seriously. My wife is yelling "Who hates Barkley!?" from the other room.
I think it's actually "Elim". Either way, Garak was probably my favorite DS9 character. At least my favorite Cardassian.
@@jacksonheathen2092 Yeah. When I first decided to use the handle, the correct spelling was taken. He was too cool...for a simple tailor.
I like Barkley. He was the most human of all the ST characters. I don't have my life act together and neither did Barkley so I relate to him. The episode where he becomes super-intelligent and powerful and takes the Enterprise on a long journey is one of my favorites.
@@davidkugel Yep. That was a good episode when "The 9th Degree".
Barclay, also known as Broccoli, is in fact, one of my favourite characters..
"Barkley never seemed to fit in with the crew of Next Generation" Kind of the point my dude.
Someone gets it
I've heard a lot of people say that he's supposed to be autistic coded which makes a lot of sense, and I feel like if they went a little further with that, like how they go more into Tilly's character and how her challenges affect her as a character, it makes more sense. But I haven't seen all of the episodes he was in, so I don't have a totally accurate picture to go from.
@@jlbeeen Kind of interesting that another character Dwight Schultz was known for playing, namely Murdoch in the A-Team was also somewhat “off” in his personality, although there I don’t think the producers tried to make him autistic as much as possibly PTSD from being held in a POW camp in the Vietnam War.
@@bcs2em625 Shit! They were, weren't they? I never realized that all these years until just now!
He also said that Lwaxana Troi was brash and overbearing, LOL! He didn't get that point either!
Barclay suffered from social anxiety. He was the most real character I've ever seen in Star Trek.
True, but they played it up too much!
Well, I didn't buy the idea that Star Fleet had turned into a kind of posh spacefaring clinic for the neurotic. Barclay? I wanted to strangle him with my garden hose.
I love Dwight Schultz. He's a genius.
I like Barclay! He was funny when he acted like he met a superstar when he tried to shake Dr. Zefram Cochrane's hand in "First Contact"😁🤣😂.....
set in a utopia future where literally cancer is curable...
I remember a few years ago, ten year old me absolutely hated Kai Winn. Now that I’m older, I still despise Kai Winn.
Agreed. And the Weyouns. I hear Jeffrey Combs voice in JLU or see him somewhere else and my skin crawls haha
@@a.m.gnovember151 I freaking love Weyoun- Winn, though, Winn we can agree on.
Every time I saw Louise Fletcher in the Act 1 credits, I knew that Kai Winn was going to do her Nurse Ratched thing, gaslighting people with a big smile and delivering sweet-sounding poison in a gentle, carefully-worded voice. Tbh, I actually looked forward to her visits because she was such an excellent foil for Sisko and Kira, keeping them both on their toes. "The bigger the smile, the sharper the knife," as Ferengi Rule of Acquisition 48 said. 🖖😎👍
@@Willpower-74205 ~ I met Jack Nicholson once. My son was a patient at Walter Reed Hospital and one day Jack Nicholson walked into his room, smilling and said "I'm here" in his "The Shinning" voice. He asked to sit with us and talk and of course I welcomed him. He is a very charming and up-lifting man. When he was leaving he gave my son a copy of "Cookoos Nest" and my son said "I will love this, Thank You, I have never seen the movie before. Jack Nicholson looked shocked. I said "I did not let him watch it when he was young because I am a Nurse and I didn't want him to hate me." This prompted him to tell me about Ms. Fletcher and what a lovely person she was and how she ruined her career with the Nurse Ratchet role. My son asked who she was and I said "She was the high Priestess from DS9....he said "Oh her....yeah she gives me the creeps". Mr. Nicholson laughed and again said she was lovely in person. Seems after Nurse Ratchet she could only get 'mean' roles.
The Werefrog hated Winn Adami with a passion and wanted to do horrible things to her. Then, she slept with Gul Dukat. She willingly took Dukat to her bed. The Werefrog no longer wanted to do horrible things to her. That and going to Bajoran hell for worshipping false prophets seems almost sufficient punishment.
Reginald Barclay is one of the most beloved characters BECAUSE of his anxieties and because of the help he received to overcome them.
I actually really enjoyed that he had a holo-addiction, as this would be realistic for someone who suffered with severe social anxiety.
@@wallacewallaby5782 I think the holodeck would cause more problems than it would solve anyway.
@@ZurSacheBitte True, but it's a realistic vice just like internet addiction is realistic for someone with social anxiety today.
Agree!
@@wallacewallaby5782 I'm suprised holodeck addiction wasn't more common. Especially considering how so many people get addicted to video games in this century.
I have literally never seen a single person talk shit about Barclay, which is more I can say about Wesley
It was ,and to some degree still is, trendy to talk down Wesley. He started off too childish and enthusiastic and for some reason the negativity stuck.
Broccoli was annoying in both Next Gen and Voyager.
What's kinda funny Wesley was supposed to be the individual that represent us. As in those of us who would dream to live in that world. However Barclay actually fit that role better. Here is a individual (Barclay) who isn't at the top of his profession, and yet is always in rooms, with top brass, heavy hitters, captain, ambassadors, etc. He has to deal with the pressure of living up to many expectation of him, while dealing with his own issues. We can relate to him, more easily then we could with Wesley.
Yeah the complaints are contrived
Well, IMOHO, Wesley is at least a recognizable character, I had to Google the name "Barclay" before I even remembered who the hell he was.
This list makes no sense at all. It appears to be more a personal take than actual fan faves and hates.
And if that was how it was presented, I wouldn't have had a problem with it.
This is a horrible list. Many of these characters are well liked and definitely liked more than other on their respective shows. Neelix, Llwhaterever her name is Troi, and Barclay are all likeable well acted well written characters. Now evil romulan lady isn’t hated because the character isn’t memorable... a character can’t be hated if people don’t bother to remember her name. Now as mor Michael B. yes this character is hated I have seen numerous UA-cam videos dedicated to the hatred of this character. This character should have been number on this pathetic attempt at a most hated Star Trek character list. Michael B. is and continues to be a poorly written and directed character, I can’t blame the actress because she’s playing the part... The issue is that it supposed to be Star Trek not the Michael B Show. The writer have focused far too heavily on one character for Discovery to truly work as a Star Trek series. I hope in the next season they back off and focus some more episodes on other characters that can stand alone without the intervention on Michael. BTW the list was terrible in case I didn’t mention it.
Yep. just watch the 1st 20 seconds again with a straight face.
@@wildlifetails Did you and your mates feel the same way about LaForge and his obsession over the engineer who'd designed the engines? As someone who also watched TNG first-run (Saturdays at 10:00 and rerun Sunday at noon), I had no problem with Barclay, but cringed at the prospect of any episode with "Auntie Mame in Space."
I must be a oddball, because other then discovery, which i have not watched, i hated every one of the characters mentioned in this list as well. Especially Barclay.
Barclay was a fantastic character. Whoever added Barclay to this list also deserves a nomination to Moron of the Decade Award.
Everyone who ever had anxiety found a relatable person with Barclay in ST. I know many smart people who had anxiety and even still have, but are very sucessful Engineers! You are absolutely right with Moron of the Decade Award! Barclay was well written and acted! I am not anxiety stricken but still loved him, because I knew people like him from a very young age onwards and most of them exceeded in their careers because they thought out of the box and mathematics & physics came easy to them. And when you got them to accept you as friend, you personally benefit greatly from their insight! They also kept me out of bars and bad friendships because it was more enjoyable to do something interresting with them than to drink myself under the table with false friends. And those are lifelong friends!
Or should be beamed into outer space.
@@WanderfalkeAT In the degree to which Starfleet is like a nation's armed forces, this is the degree to which the Barclay types get screened out. I mean I was only in the army for a while but there were no Barclay types: brilliant but ineffectual, insecure but nice. Nope. A civilian attached to Starfleet might work though, as a more realistic path. Discovery picked up on this with characters like Booker. But then they made the same Barclay mistake with the Tilly character.
As a personal aside: I went to a military recruiter at one point wondering whether I should consider applying to military college -- Kingston/St.Jean in Canada. They made it really clear that academic excellence wasn't the key, instead, things like athletics, civic involvement, initiative, character... or at least some stuff other than grades.
Tilly doesn't go to Starfleet academy. Barclay tries to go but they find a reason to deter him/flunk him out.
Why Star Trek gets this so wrong says a lot about who writes their shows and who they think their audience is. In contrast, because the writers (and their presumed audience) don't care about police work or security, they kind of get this right in the show. (I worked with the police later in life -- in Corrections -- and met plenty of red shirt equivalents -- I even had a co-worker who looked like Tasha Yar. [Men found her hot, but a bit scary, lol. Completely out of my league, lol.])
My only caveat in my comments above is that war changes things: a broader range of people enter service, not least of which because of conscription. Unfortunately, Star Trek lacks the subtlety to deal with this kind of question.
Barclay!? Talk about completely missing the point of the character. He's arguably one of the most realistic characters in Star Trek history.
Exactly, he and miles are the two characters that represent modern people the best
Except an anxious otaku like that would never take a job on a starship venturing out into the unknown and known political hotspots. He'd rather take some boring if safe penci pusher position on earth.
@@shiroamakusa8075 Because no one ever overcomes social issues to challenge themselves or do something that is important to them....
@@thelaziestninja86 Barclay never overcame any of his issues. He was an anxious otaku for the whole of TNG.
@@shiroamakusa8075 ok there weeb, nobody uses Otaku unless they're overly obsessed with anime.
But on the topic of Barclay, he does start to overcome his anxieties later on, especially during Voyager. It does seem a little odd that someone with his issues still got aboard Enterprise, but his counselor may have suggested he take that action to help him overcome or face his anxiety and since he's pretty smart and resourceful, he was given a commission aboard
I’m sorry. How can we forget DS9’s Kai Winn Adami held the title of "Vedek" during the Cardassian occupation of Bajor. I HATED HER WITH every bone in my body. Yes well written to be hated and the writers succeeded there.
I completely agree
When I rewatched episodes I made sure to skip most of the ones with her in it
Oooohhhh I despised Kai Winn.
Louise Fletcher is a powerful actress; she does her job well.
Yeah, but we're supposed to hate her.
How in the hell do you have Barclay and Naomi Wildman on a list of HATED Star Trek characters? Barclay was lovably neurotic, and he always felt like an embodiment of every nerdy Trek fan if they got a chance to actually serve aboard the Enterprise. And, Naomi managed to somehow be the one child character in TV history who wasn't annoying as hell and overplaying their child status for attention and/or laughs. Naomi's interactions with Seven were some of the best moments of the later Voyager seasons.
Jake Sisko could be another example for a good written child role in the Star Trek universe. But you are absolutely right about Naomi.
@@TubetakerBHV Nog as well. Both got aged up properly as well. They go from kids doing kids things to grown men. They start the series as middle school boys getting into middle school boy hijinks. By the finale Nog is a decorated military veteran with an officers commission on the bridge of a starship and Jake is highly respected war correspondent.
@@BigWillyG1000 We lost a great actor when Aron Eisenberg passed away two years ago. Sh*t, I nearly forgot we lost Nog and Odo in the same year. 2019 was a really shitty year to be a Trekkie, from Picard to all those deaths, it would have destroyed me if I loved it like I love Doctor Who.
Absolutely agree 100%
Naomi is one of the cutest little things I’ve ever seen lol my jaw dropped when he mentioned her.
Kes would technically be the equivalent of a human in their 20's, not a child.
Agreed, he's too hung up on the"l "she's two years old" and not factoring in the fact that they only live nine years.
But his logic, she'll never be old enough to have a relationship.
@@MartyrKomplx What would be the point?
@@darthbane2669the point is that since the various age limits (age of consent, drinking age, voting age, etc) are supposedly based on physical, mental, and emotional maturity, and given that the relationship between those and physical age are different in her species than in ours, we cannot place the same expectations on her and her species' maturity based solely on physical age and should not use the same physical age-based preconceptions & restrictions.
If anything, we can attach warnings about becoming emotionally invested due to the difference in lifespans, she'll grow old and die and leave you with a nearly full life still ahead of you. You may not be able to emotionally handle that fact, but it would depend on the individual. So, just a warning.
I never liked Kes.
The fact that Barclay is on this list is nonsense. The video’s titled “most hated Star Trek characters”, not “Star Trek characters that had bad writing” (which Barclay should be on neither)
P.S - Wesley should be at the top of the aforementioned lists.
Yes. Wesley Crusher should have been at the top of this list. Spoiled, sniveling, and pathetic. Picard should have let the Edo kill him for trampling down those plants in the season 1 episode "Justice".
Wesley was at his most annoying in season 1, where everything was terrible; except the music. When the show got better, he did too.
@@schwarzerritter5724 I don't know about that. 😁 Wesley Crusher was annoying well beyond season 1. He was particularly annoying in season 4 "Final Mission" when he mouthed off to captain Dirgo like a spoiled brat. I also thought sniveled excessively in season 5 "The First Duty".
But I can admit he redeemed himself a little bit in season 7 "Journey's End" when he finally stood up to both Picard & his overbearing mother, quit Starfleet, and left with the Traveler.
Sounds like a lot of self-hating Wesleys out there.
@@DoremiFasolatido1979 Wesley was easy to hate. Just saying. 😝
So, you're putting Naomi on this list and not Alexander?
I am deeply concerned.
Ikr this guy is deluded
Looks like he just dialed this one in. Maybe he secretly wrote Threshold.
I actually liked Naomi Wildman. I thought the little actress did an excellent job. She was not nearly as obnoxious as some of the other children (young Wesley, Alexander, Jake on DS9), and she had some more 'adult' scenes that didn't rely on her being a child.
@@kathykrisko3228 She doesn't belong on that list, most of the others on the list a readily recognizable, ie they elicit strong emotions (one way or another).
Like you I don't find her as obnoxious as the other kids ( I didn't find her obnoxious at all), others could have definitely taken her spot.
I agree there. I hated Alexander and was always glad for the long periods of time where he disappeared.
Never met anyone who didn't love Barclay. His inclusion is baffling.
My dad wasn’t a fan.
Agreed. Every Trekkie know loved Barclay
Hated Barclay. How did such a neurotic get through the academy?
I'm in the "Hate Barclay" fan club too.
I actually feel the opposite of how he’s described in the list: loved him on TNG, annoyed by him on Voyager.
Some bizarre choices here -- Barclay was a genuinely interesting and amusing character, the most human of the human crew -- Naomi was a sweet and charming kid, keen to help without Wesley's know-it-all attitude, & I found Hardy's portrayal of Shinzon exceptional, an evil, almost completely amoral sociopath....
It's all about opinions isn't it? I never warmed to Seven of Nine, i didn't hate the character, i have always had a problem with the journey that she made. The issue i had is, at what point does assimilation become irriversible? She was assimilated when she was a child, it has always seemed absurd that the process could be reversed, just another nail in the coffin of the Borg.
How the Hell is a fan FAVORITE like Reginald Barclay on this list?! And some of his most popular episodes used as examples?!
Barclay was a great character, a poor crewmember with flashes of brilliance, but a great character.
This.
the character of Barclay could carry, a hole episode all by him self, and almost does many times, with a little help? also how could you find a back actor-ad character in star trek Picard there it would be like looking for a tree in a forest.
Right? WTF is this guy smoking.
I hated Barclay. He was painful to watch. Every episode highlighted some type of personal struggle he was facing. Nobody cares if someone is nervous or apprehensive. On the Enterprise, it should have been "Hey man, STFU! Quit tapping your neck and get back to work!"
When you make a video like this, the qualifying title should be '10 star trek characters I hate and why.'
Perfect comment! 👍
Yeah...saying Wesley Crusher isn't #1? Sadly, it doesn't matter if the character got better. He is widely hated, even if Wil Wheaton is now beloved.
100% agree.
Neelix , the bane of Mr.Tuvok.
Dr.Pulaski studied under Admiral Leonard H. McCoy, Starfleet Surgeon General.
Oh please, Barclay is one of the iconic roles in Star Trek.
Ditto Troi's mom. Her being the embarrassing mom was the point and unlike Pulaski the writing is such her characterization is in the butter zone where she was amusing not annoying.
Agreed. I loved his interactions with LaForge. You could have done so much with Barclay's character with his insufferable lack of confidence. He was a blank canvas with a lot of potential.
Also agreed. Reg fab. Ditto Lwaxana. Yes she's annoying but that's the point. Majel played the part so well and I think it was actually well supported by the writing too.
Sehe ich auch so!
I don't like Barclay and I rarely watch any reruns of the episodes he's in. I find him annoying and I lose patience.
All of Kes' sins are immediately forgiven by the gift of her voice. I could listen to her talk forever.
Voyager Wrote out Kess when the character was developing and getting interesting Neelix should have been written out instead
@@maryellenyarusso7029 Except one small little issue: Neelix the the guide to the Delta Quadrant. He’s the exposition guy. Also they wrote themselves into a corner with Kes due to her less than a decade lifespan.
@@mapleflag6518 That and Seven of Nine was brought in to replace Kes altogether. I heard it was kept under wraps until the last moment, shocking the actress and others on set.
The personal issues of the actress was presumably the main reason.
I couldn't stand her, terribly written and omg that scream made me want to punch my tv lol
Glad that mentally ill lunatic was fired just see what she did outside of acting....totally gross.
I strongly disagree with including Naomi Wildman. She was one of the few child characters that wasn't infuriatingly annoying.
Yeah, that one makes no sense to me either.
To be fair, the reason why she is on the list is because their were too many episodes where she is just there to interact with the older characters, and not enough Naomi centric episodes. Her inclusion argued that the character was criminally underwritten for a young actress with that level of talent.
Agreed ! I loved her and Seven's friendship.
Naomi served to help Seven learn how to be human again by teaching her a childlike awe of the world.
Naomi was very talented as an actress and underutilized, while Alexander had an entire arc and was a clunky child actor.
Having Reg Barclay on this list is borderline criminal. He’s actually one of the best drawn characters in Star Trek.
Agreed!!!
Cancel this entire UA-cam channel. 🤬
My bf always groaned whenever barclay made an appearance again after the first episode he was in. :p
I like almost all these characters. Is this "Star Trek Characters Hated By People Who've Never Watched Star Trek?"
What do you expect from normie brits that don't understand the character?
Barclay? FTW!!! He's one of the most relatable characters on TNG.
Right he is quit literally the hero for Voyager, while he didn’t get them home he is single handedly the reason they were able to contact and get messages to and from home. A grade A hero in my book
RIGHT!
"For the win"??
true
They put Barclay at the top and leave Wesley Crusher off? Does whoever made this list even talk to any Star Trek fans?
I actually liked Pulaski. I was bummed to see her leave. But I do agree, she definitely comes off as rather frigid and was particularly keen on picking on Data.
Her character did not like Robots or AI, that's for sure! Possibly influenced by her fear that AI will replace doctors in the future. As we see in Voyager. At the time when Machines started to take many jobs away in Production and Engineering (and still do, with now even Artists and Writers have to fear for their job) - This is not a surprise and may come from Roddenberry himself. What I loved about her was her job focused behaviour derrived of family ties or relationships with the crew that could cloud her judgement. And she is a Star Trek Original actor.
I really liked Pulaski too, the thing is they were redeeming her character throughout the season she appeared in, they just never got there. I hate that when people bring up what they dislike most about her, it's that. She was still in development.
she was unfortunately was kind of an anti dr crusher and came across as very anti andrioid.
Barclay has no business being on that list. He is a human being; very relatable. Not some super hero who is very good in everything he does. And if you didn't cry when he succeeded in contacting Voyager you must be dead inside.
I watched Voyager before NG and i liked Barclay . He was so relatable
It's a lame "list" and serves no purpose.
They are all human beings on the ship. Incidentally I related to everyone except Barclay - he was just too inefficient for me. Humans should strive for perfection not mediocrity
@@fullmoon1072 ok nerd. Lol!
He's the only one who truly belongs on that list!
Naomi Wildman was hugely important in humanizing Seven of Nine and I was always impressed with Scarlet Pomer’s acting chops for someone so young.
Naomi never annoyed me. She was ... just there. Yes she never had a big arc, but then, how do you do that with child actors? They have school to attend to, they are basically still amateurs.
She is a child, born on what was at that point to be assumed a generational ship, and we see her grow up and do child things. I never saw a need for her to be more involved. She was a frigging child, and I agree on her role for Seven of Nine.
Agreed
I loved Barclay. Wonderful character.
Seeing the transporter from his perspective didn't lessen the story, it was a major plot point.
I was thinking it the whole time, except in my mind it was "I love Broccoli."
@Snake Plisken I agree with you. By the same token, you shouldn't be able to move, or talk either; yet both of these things happen. However, within the narrow context of that story, it was an interesting thing to see. And because of this, lives were saved.
I loved that story from his perspective. So cool! I really liked his character in both shows. Shows that not everyone is the same and not everyone is confident.
Especially in Voyager.
Lwaxana Troi was a great character! Majel chewed the scenery perfectly. It seems like Majel enjoyed playing her. Her character was FUN to watch. She dominated the episodes she appeared in. That said, it's good she was a special guest star rather than a regular. A little Lwaxana goes a long way.
I always enjoyed episodes that had ether had Lwaxana Troy or Q
This was the only entry that actually made me scream "WHAT?!?!" at the top of my lungs. How could anyone hate her???
Her character was fun, confident yet vulnerable. Voyager Tuvok on the other hand had no memorable moments😴
Yep, was only one I felt strongly of the opposite view on.
Same, loved Lxaxana. The only woman that could make Picard go Warp 9+ on a non-critical mission.
My mouth dropped when you said "Barclay"
Same. It's rare I meet any Trek fan who hates Barclay. And so far most of them I've met this year.
Mr Broccoli was awsome °○°
Barclay was one of my favorite side characters. He was flawed and scared and yet always had to deal with it somehow. In a world of the best of the best humanity had to offer it was great to see a person who struggled to live his life to the fearless and flawless standards set by those around him.
Barclay is a character that could have Aspergers and has to struggle with it to cope. Many of these people are easily hated because they can't socialize normally and may say or do things that get taken out of context.
@@aniak8017 Ah! a nickname indicates affection for those you are fond of.
Data`s right, the nickname stops here.
I'm sorry, but you lost all credibility with me by opening with "Wesley will not feature on this list". What's next? A Star Wars expose on how Jar Jar was actually a beloved and popular character?
This. This entire video comes off like it was written by someone who doesn't know what the hell they're talking about.
ha ha... read the Jaja is a Sith Lord theory.
I'll give you that. Wesley Crusher was despicable. Spoiled, sniveling, & pathetic. Picard should have let the Edo kill him on the spot for trampling those plants in season 1 "Justice".
Although he redeemed himself a little bit in season 7 "Journey's End" when he finally stood up to his overbearing mother, quit Starfleet, and left with the Traveler.
@@bfg3890 that fan theory was better than the entire sequel trilogy
Reg Barclay was the first character on TV I saw that I related to. Being a young dude in the 90s with anxiety and seeing Reg was life changing 🖖
The most human human on TNG.
Agree! His is my favorite character. He looks like if "just human" come to work on Enterprise
I’m sorry but Naomi is my 3rd favorite next to Icheb and seven of nine, having a child trying to be friends and basically being sevens first friend was charming and heartwarming
I'm not a fan of her, but Alexander from TNG was far more obnoxious.
Imagine not including Wesley but then including Barclay.
I liked Wesley!
To me Barcley is the only one who belongs on the list ...except Pulaski maybe.
@@Spino2Earth shut up spino
When I watched TNG back in the 90s I too disliked Wesley. I am not sure if it were the character or the actor though.
I like the mature Wil Wheaton much better though on youtube.
Right on
Dwight Schultz being able to portray the social awkwardness and anxiety of Reginald Barclay is a testament to what a great actor he is. He was Murdock on the A-Team for Chrissake
Murdock is one of my fave characters of all time, and I really enjoyed watching Schultz play Barclay.
He was also key in getting Voyager home.
I read that as Dwight Schrute
Amen!!!! 💯
He did a marvellous job acting the character
Never really had an issue with Neelix myself. To me, in the later seasons, he essentially became more or less the Guinan of the show, just in the mess hall vs Ten Forward.
I didn't like him in the early seasons, but he eventually grew on me. The scene where he left the ship brought tears to my eyes.
I didn't like Neelix at first, but when I rewatched the entire series of Voyager, I liked him a lot more.
I feel like Paris was the easiest from Voyager to not like. Though I also think that was the entire point to his character arc so mission success!
My first play through of Voyager I hated him, but I loved his last episode. Subsequent rewatching of the series I saw him from a different perspective and really liked him.
@@TracySmith-xy9tq Same. Hell, I'm tearing up right now thinking about it.
Y'know, I spent years cringing at Neelix, just like everybody else, but that last scene where he leaves Voyager and everybody's lining the corridors, saluting him, brought a tear to my eye.
Neelix was a fun character.
I’m sorry but I must respectfully disagree with this list
Agreed i liked narissa I thought she was amazing this dude sean must not have watched the same show we did
Agreed!!!
Agree, this list is a joke, no Wesley, but he adds Barclay? Get real, and Narissa was the only thing I liked about STP.
Westley #1.
Micheal #2.
Everyone else in discovery 3-10
Barkley was beloved.
I actually low key love Luxwanna Troi, and Narissa wasn't awful...and Wesley wasn't that bad...and Neelix...you know I can find enough of what I like in the things that are bad in star trek that I still love it
This list is woefully incomplete without Alexander Roschenko.
Yup. Both child and adult (DS9) versions.
@@GrymmSoul Child and both adult versions
Exactly. Never really served no purpose at all.
In fact, the only one who truly deserves to be on this list. I'll take 10 Wesley's over this guy.
I'll defend Alexander against all you haters. How would you act if you knew your father didn't want you?
Let me get this straight, 90% or better of the hatred has to do with the writers not being able to write effectively....
Math checks out
Seems legit!! :)
I mean...duh?
It's always the writer's fault if you have a UA-cam channel and you're hoping to do interviews with the actors. Better suck up to them as much as possible then.
Well, yeah. That’s what a character is-the writing. It’s not a slam on the actors (although an actor CAN ruin a character), but just a reaction to the creation that’s put on screen. Personally, I think calling these “hated” characters in the video title is a bit strong. Some were bland, boring, annoying, poorly fleshed out, but I don’t think they rise to the level of “hated” in my eyes.
Given the creator of Discovery's contempt for Star Trek lore I think it should be treated as fan fiction and not a true part of the Star Trek universe. It also depicts a meaner less evolved humanity than Enterprise making it feel like it doesn't fit.
Exactly
I think that's a great way to describe Discovery.
Barclay is memorable and the actor did a great job!
I thought Broccoli was a funny and interesting exploration of a crew member with a social anxiety disorder.
He was just annoying to me.
Did people dislike Naomi in Voyager? Or is this just a list of characters the narrator felt was poorly written? These are definitely not all the "most hated" characters.
He never gave a source, where he got his data from - so I most likely assume it's just the video editors opinion. And he don't want to admit that.
Come on... she was a child. Who hates children? What sick fucking individual is responsible for that??
It made sense to me, like a cross country wagon train, kids are born, people die.
I thought Naomi was a great character.
i honestly dont know ....because NEELIX
at first i hated him so bad i would just turn it off after enduring him a few seconds, then, when there was (almost!) no other star trek to watch it got so bad i would watch an episode until he came on and after fast fwd thru whatever terrible scene(s) and then again and again i would realize i missed the whole episode, since this happens EVERY EPISODE i never made it very far in voyager, dude gets more screen time than jane way
Honestly I've never liked Lwuxana much, but her episode with Odo made her feel the most real to me. It redeemed her character in my eyes.
"Barclay never fit in on TNG" Yes. That was the point.
The guy's a dolt. The fact that he instantly takes Wesley from this list is a red flag. He missed the entire reason Barclay was there. No, he didn't fit and he wasn't supposed to. Not everyone is ready for the Enterprise or the Federation, for that matter. And that's ok.
THANK YOU!!!
@@bensisko4651 the Federation isn't ready for this man, The Sisko
Lwaxana Troi is a fantastic character. She's suppose to be loud, overbearing and brash, its literally the characters purpose. What is this list?
exactly! her behavior is also explained bc of her species tendency to be like that as they age. also, her appearances were refreshing.
ever find it funny that no one mentions that the enterprises computer sounded like lwaxana troi
Agreed! What are you sniffing TrekCulture?
This list is a bad joke. 1st of April is yet to come....
Are you people crazy? I literally skip every Lwaxana episode when rewatching TNG.
Lwaxana Troi, Daughter of the Fifth House, Holder of the Sacred Chalice of Rixx, Heir to the Holy Rings of Betazed IS A QUEEN.
I met her once in person when I was 12 at a Trek convention in 1992. The same in person as on the series. She holds a special place in my heart because she is from Cleveland like my mother and so for me she transmitted that Ohio cheerfulness of her generation.
Indeed! I just can't believe it she's in this list. The TNG episode 'Half a Life' is just so memorable and thought provoking, and she plays it so fantastically. Also the scene in the lift with Odo in the episode 'The Forsaken' is worth an Oscar IMNSHO.
@@DavidsDoseofItaly likewise, and I treasure Barrett’s autograph on a photo of her in the mud bath with Alexander, which was one of my favorite Lwaxana scenes
@@DonnaMcMasterRiver i remember worf at the end. “We’re supposed to just SIT here?!”
@@DavidsDoseofItaly yes, a great line!
Not again! Troi’s mother was a great character addition to TNG om occassion BECAUSE her usually ever cheerful narcissistic tendencies
were in such contrast to the usual Enterprise crew members.
“Most Hated?” Or “Most Underutilized?” Or “Most Victimized By Piss-Poor Scripting?”
??????
This list has no consistent criteria. You have actually disliked by fans or divisive characters- Mikey Spock, Neelix, Shinzon, Pulaski but you have fan favorites who have some dud episodes like Lxananna and fan favorites who were solid like Barclay.
Agreed. This list would be far more accurate to sat must underutilized. As most of the chars are both loved and not explored enough.
This stupid list put Shinzon on because he was a villain. Then why not just list villains?
Even if Wesley's character improved over time, there's no denial that he's still one of the more hated characters. There's no way someone as endearing as Barclay is more hated than Wesley Crusher
Just because some people say Wesley is the most hated character *doesn't* make it so. I related to Wesley quite a bit when the show was airing because he was an intelligent-beyond-his-years boy who had insight and ideas others didn't and adults would not listen to him for the simple fact he was a "child." I was three years old when STNG started airing. I related so much.
@@impishrebel5969 it’s pretty undeniable that Wesley has received more hate than almost any other ST character
list is trash. Crusher is at least in the top ten. I don't care that it got better or that some people liked him.
@@TheHauntedAngel
Undeserved hate.
@@tabularasa0606 he was a pretty unlikable Mary Sue for the first few seasons. Don’t blame anyone for disliking him
I don't hate Neelix, I just thought of him being annoying.
Now, Kai Wynn, that is someone that deserves all the hate!
There is difference of hate. Kai Wynn and DS9's Gul Dukat are villains and they are supposed to be hated. Hated characters like Neelix, Wesley Crusher and Michael Burnham are hated cause they are annoying.
If you hate Kai Winn, then it's a testament to how good the writing on DS9 was and the quality of Louise Fletcher's terrific acting.
@@AndrewD8Red Exactly Louise Fletcher mastered in playing evil villains like Nurse Ratched in One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest.
Kai Winn was written to be hated. The remarkable thing is there were also moments where you could see genuine feelings underneath her scheming and thirst for power (like when she pours scorn on Kira for being a part of the Bajoran resistance while Winn herself was being regularly beaten in a prison camp for preaching the word of the Prophets).
@@DarthSideous63 I'm of a generation that knew Louise Fletcher from DS9 first. I had heard of the character of Nurse Ratched, but I didn't know it was her who played the part, but after finding out I decided to read the book and watch the film in part just to see her performance. I was not disappointed.
Interestingly, both her and Brad Dourif are in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and went on to be cast in Star Trek in recurring roles as sociopaths. Although, unfortunately Dourif has been type-cast in the sociopath role a bit too much for my liking. He was the sweetest character in Cuckoo's Nest.
Me being autistic + ADHD with severe anxiety issues, Barclay was one of the most relatable and likeable characters. Although tbh that was because of his time in VOY, not in TNG.
Barclay was an excellent character and brought a humanity to Star Trek. Don't forget he made contact with Janeway and helped get Voyager home.
"Most hated Star Trek Characters"
-List includes Barclay, Naomi, and Lwaxana
Excuse me, whaaaaaaaat?
and no Kai Winn. What a bullshit.
@@chaitanyakrishna8821 Personally, I still believe the whole Prophets vs Pah-Wraiths storyline was a big unnecessary and underdeveloped waste of time for most of the series, and it really didn't add much to DS9 other than allowing Gul Dukat to go from a complex villain to a moustache-twirling "DESTROY THE UNIVERSE" villain...so it actually subtracted from the series when you think about it.
@@Cool70sfreak Fully agreed.
The idea of using aliens that live on a higher plane of existence that are worshipped as gods by the Bajorans is not such a problem.
The prophets weren't abusive or malevolent, and did care for the Bajorans. Communication was just difficult.
But then we got this nonsense of good-prophets vs evil-prophets, and Sisko himself becoming Bajoran Jesus.
It became way too pseudo religious.
Behr, Moore, or whoever came up with that idea should never have inserted it.
When I learned that that Behr and Moore wanted to end DSN with the revelation that it and Star Trek was all the product of the imagination of Benny Russell, I was just so fucking annoyed. I felt like the two tried to hijack Star Trek in some way.
I am glad Viacom did not allow them to pull that one off.
@@Cool70sfreak Not sure about if it's necessary or not but, it was quite underdeveloped. Their feud seems silly and generic.
@@chaitanyakrishna8821 Yeah, that's kinda the point I'm driving at here. If it was better developed, then it might feel justified, but since it's not, it feels, well, as I said, unnecessary.
Awww... I kind of liked the relationship between Naomi Wildman and Seven.
Same here - in my view their relationship helped Seven learn about a part of human existence (and thus herself) that she had forgotten.
Fun will now commence.
@Michael Shaughnessy "State your purpose"
Naomi would have been 80% less annoying if everyone else in Voyager didn't constantly refer to her by her full name.
I loved it too! ❤️
If those are the most hated characters, then Star Trek has done an amazing job at creating characters.
Seriously.
"Wesley Crusher will not be on this list"
* changes channel *
This.
wes crusher was def an annoying character.
He wasn't bad the first season or so, then he got super annoying.
@@sethaldrich6902 I hate how kissed Picard's ass all the time.
He is the least realistic kid/teen in television history.
I LOVED Barkley! This is a seriously screwed up list!!
Do the people who make these lists even watch Star Trek?
I mean I've seen an episode or two? :) but youd be surprised some of the vitriol through the years. Time has definitely been kinder to some characters than others, which I think is a good thing. I'm sure I'll catch hell for saying this, but give it a few years and people will look on Discovery more fondly, like they do with the Kelvin films....and Enterprise....and Voyager.....and DS9.....and TNG....and Star Trek V...ok maybe that last one is a push :)
I LOVED Barclay. One of my favorite TNG characters. I'd never have guessed someone would put him on a list like this.
At two years old, Kes was anything but a child. If the total lifespan of a species is only nine years, you cannot equate its aging and maturation process with that of a species that has a life expectation ten times as long. To say that Kes was a child at two is like saying that Grogu "the child" from The Mandalorian was middle-aged at fifty.
Well said. While it's debatable that a person that young would be that mature and capable, it's ridiculous to say that a person is a child all their life just because their natural life cycle has them reach adult size at a year old, reproduce at four, and die at nine.
Yeah I'm getting tired of hearing this. I expect this from youtube comments, but to see the channel content be of the quality of youtube comments is disappointing. And the whole thing sparks of virtue signaling. Her age would have been early to mid 20's. And while it's still a bit weird to be with a man in his 40's or 50's, it's certainly not unheard of and happens all the time.
Yep... virtue signaling at its finest
I will agree though that it is weird she was in a relationship with someone 15 times older then her
@Tonya Patrick agreed
I loved Lwaxana she was funny, and I also loved Barclay, anyone who has been through issues of shyness can relate to him.
@pnorbert2222 Dark Page is one of my favorite episodes.
Right!!! I love them both too.
No that's absolutely not true.
I suffer from such things but I find the Barclay character absolutely insufferable ; )
Lwaxana is also extremely annoying, but sometimes funny, I grant you that.
Same
i cant see how she was on there but kekio was left out
she was the jar jar of star trek
I have to say I always loved Lwaxana Troi. Everyone has that one relation that is totally over the top and embarrassing. It made her episodes feel down to earth and relatable. Even in the distant future when we have made soo much progress, we can't avoid our eccentric family members.
Exactly. The presenter has no imagination.
I cringe at her character Lwaxana, but revere her as Gene's wife who contributed sooooo much to all the iterations of Trek.
I would have escorted her straight to an airlock.
IMHO, the character was overdone.
@@Cheepchipsable Dude, that's the point. Once you reach puberty, you will meet women exactly like her. They're fun in small dises.
Yeah I love her too. I think they got her writing spot on. I usually find characters like hers cringeworthy but not Lwaxana she's just fun and a breath of fresh air.
Lwaxana Troi was the most hilarious character in all Star Trek series. I loved her. Why would anyone hate her?
Because she's obnoxious, selfish, and rude.
Does anyone at TrekCulture actually watch Star Trek?
I think they like skim it, y'know.
also sorry not sorry here WHY THE HELL ISN'T BASHIR ON THIS FUCKING LIST, his whole thing is "I'm a genius, but I'm also a creepy rape-y doctor who's going after a woman who is literally 4 centuries older than me"
let's not forget that Will Wheaten had received a fuckton of death threats and assassination threats too, NOONE FUCKING LIKED HIM HIS WHOLE THING WAS "Hi I'm a 24th century version of Nepotism onboard a naval warship" his mummy was friends with the captain and he got a bridge job
Why would they? Lol
NO
I don't think so
Whoever wrote this really doesn't know much about Trek fandom.
I always found the banter between Lwaxana Troi and Picard to be hilarious. I love the character.
I enjoyed the part when Troy meets the Farangi captain and uses Picard to escape his clutches!!!
@@hackman669 that’s always the first thing I think about when I think of Lwaxana. Very smart and funny scene.
I never understood the problem people have with neelix, always loved him.
I thought that he was a good Morale Officer.
Now, Tuvix, F that guy...
Not a bad character, just really bland and harmless. It's hard to imagine how he'd survived so long alone in Kazon territory, harder to take him seriously in the role of negotiator he's randomly dropped into. If they'd added a touch more cunning to him, he'd be a better fit all around, and continue being useful.
I found Neelix really obnoxious and grating. His personality, as a real person, would be someone I wouldn't want to be around for long periods of time.
I thought he was awful. I thought Quark was similar but done well, although even with Quark it could be dificult to fit him into serious scenes although they could just about manage it.
Neelix's appearence was too clown like in costume, or rodent like in appearance, but despite the appearance his character didn't feel alien, there was no Telaxian culture or belief system which explained him the awy Quark had, he was just an often jealous, foolish, skin deep character who they probably didn't kill off because they couldn't think of a way of doing it without it being funny.
I really enjoyed barkley. He really felt like a real person
This list should called “Characters that weren’t used properly or appreciated properly”. Most of them great characters.
fixed it "Characters that weren’t appreciated properly by this youtuber"
@@hexagonalsky *by this youtuber who doesn't distinguish between characters we should like and weren't treated fairly, and characters who are SUPPOSED to get under our skin, and did it well.
That's a lot of words. Wouldn't search well. 😂
A misleading title indeed, kinda click baity.
I loved Lwaxana! Why would someone hate her? She's hilarious
I loved how much she irritated Picard.
I second that! Her Odo’s and Picard’s scenes are epic.
Great character
The sexual harassment.
Because of what Woodrobin said and for the same reason. She is just too much for most people.
I cannot believe Cessca (Voyager) did not make the list :/
Me neither. I still think of her as Ms. Ick.
Doesn't appear enough I think. Briefly a villain then gone.
Yes. Please add her.
I would change two characters on this list: Barclay with Wesley and Naomi with Worf‘s son Alexander. I found Alexander far more annoying than Naomi
Agreed on Alexander. Naomi at least helped the plot once in a while.
Naomi had an endearing quality and I loved the pitcher plant episode where she helped Seven. Alexander always seemed so forced into the plot
ssa
I used to sing the tune from The Munsters every time Alexander came on screen since he looked like Eddie.
Alexander was the most annoying and should be the top of the list.
Most of these characters are not "hated" at all. Oh my days.
Agreed. They're way off on hated characters. Don't get me started on Echeb.
To me it just sounded like somebody needed content for the week.
Agreed. "Characters that didn't get enough focus from the writers" would fit much better.
its complete crap this list.
@@nick5661 This is the list you'd write if you'd never actually watched an entire episode.
I really liked Neelix, the way he annoyed Tuvok was fantastic and some of my favorite scenes
Same😂 I find him really sweet too
I agree completely. He even annoyed Tuvok so badly that he created Tuvix 😂😂
Their "Odd Couple" chemistry was beautiful. And Tuvix - one of the most heartbreaking, gut wrenching episodes of the series.
Me too.
I loved Neelix's last scene on Voyager when Tuvok actually did a little toe-tapping. It was the nearest he would ever get to dancing, but it showed huge respect for Neelix and for their relationship.
How was Wesley not on this list?
I thought Barclay was pretty interesting. He actually had character development, where a lot of the main cast didn't even really get that.
If an alien matures in 2 years then it's an adult. What if vulcans matured when they turned 30, at 20 they're still a child.
True you need to consider physiology when looking at age with multiple species. Something that lives over 1000 years is likely still a child at 100. Her species living 10 years makes a 2 year old equivalent to a human in late teens early 20s though that is still questionable with a man in late 30s early 40s.
A CHI YULD!
Grogu is 50!
Just by doing the math all Jem Haddar are child soldiers. But they aint. Their species matures faster than humans.
And what is a year? It’s how long our Earth rotates around our Sun. A year on Kes’s home planet around a different star could be equal to 10 Earth years. They never really explain time correctly in Trek or other Sci-fi shows do they?
Barkley is one of the most beloved characters with some of the shortest screen time hes easily the most relatable to us normal humans. How is he on this list?
Barclay is one of the best reoccurring characters on Star Trek.
if there was a top 10 misunderstood characters, I think Neelix would be near the top of that list. A lot of people think Neelix was annoying, but it's only because poor wording on the writers part. Calling Neelix's actions toward Kess as "jealous" when "over-protective" would have been a better word. Then maybe fans would have put it all together. He became a "trader" (lets face it he was a hoarder), after suffering a traumatic event in his life, the lose of his home world (and with it his family). There was no talk of just how long he was living by himself, in all that stuff. It was also only hinted at in some lines, saying that Kess reminded him of his sister. Yes he had romantic feelings for kess, but on a deeper leave Kess reminder him of his sister. I believe Neelix suffered from PSTD, which would account for all his odd/annoying behaviours. It was only really explored in the episode "Jetrel", honestly one of if not thee best Neelix focused episodes.
Everyone is this list is far more loved than 99% of Discovery characters.
Couldn’t agree more!
Very true. Add the Picard bunch to the list too!
Preach!
@@davidc1721 Picard himself would be the 1% liked.
Right
I loved Lwaxana! She was an overbearing and loud person. She was hilarious and broke the tension. A great character and a perfect foil.
i loved her too! Majel's acting was also at her best in this role, i also thought.
Oh, come on. What was the purpose of her character? Hi, there’s no reason I’m on a Federation starship but I’m going to embarrass my daughter by chasing the captain around like a man-hungry skank?
Also had "cougar" appeal. Smart, sassy and hotter than a stolen tamale, that's a great character combination, hard to beat.
I agree. She was a quite a character. She showed us her true heart in that turbolift-scene. I will always remember her
Lwaxana was a sitcom character that had no business being in a sci-fi show, and only existed because those were the days when every season had to be padded out to 20+ episodes and shows were stuffed with pointless filler.
I feel bad for Malcolm McDowell. Imagine receiving death threats from tons of people just because you've killed a fictional character.
How dare Barclay be on this list. He’s the only one on the crew who isn’t confident, and it made him so human. It made him stand out so much more than any other side character on next gen. I haven’t met a single person who hates him.
When I was a child a was annoyd by Lwaxana. But as an aduld with some ups and heavy downs in my life, I began to admire that charakter. She suffered so much and yet never stopped enjoying life to the fullest. She got old, but always stayed an energetic women.
And to be honest, I love how she always managed to bring her disziplined daughter out of balance :D That is just sooooo real!
Being totally inconsiderate is a horrible reason to admire a character.
Lwaxana can annoy the shit out of you, but there are just enough serious moments with her, the Dark Page episode and when trapped with Odo in the lift, that show you that her heart is in the right spot. Besides, it is explained that mature Betazoid women go a bit cuckoo during menopause.
Including the ... fever thing that happened in DS9. It was silly, but the hormonal havoc she caused was funny. Sisko: "So ... does that mean ... Dax?!" Bashir: "Best not to think about it too much."
Also, Majel Barrett seemed to have a blast.
That being said, I very much appreciate not having a mother like her. :D
My problem with the character of Lwaxana is that she contributed nothing to Star Fleet. It takes more than being a horny mother flitting about space.
How in the world could you put Barclay on this list?! He's easily one of my favorite trek characters of all time, he's the "everyman".
My top two will always be Wesley and Guinan, and not because the characters themselves were any worse than many others, but because of what it meant nearly every time they made a more than background appearance. Bad, poor and lazy writing for the story of the episode.
They were just used to many times to magically solve the problem when the writers wrote themselves into a corner. Need secret, special knowledge or insight that no one in the crew should have a clue about? Don't bother going through the trouble of discovery, just have Guinan drop it into someone's lap. Need a technical solution that people who have spent their lives studying the subject can't figure out? Ask Wesley, who just happened to have figured exactly that incredibly obscure bit of whatever the night before.
Lazy writing that ruins the quality of any story just as much as the cavalry magically appearing to ride over the horizon just in the nick of time.
I am unabashed by my love for Lwaxana Troi. The lady has LAYERS. On the surface she is confident to the point of obnoxousness, but when you look deeper you see a woman alone and terrified that she will always be so. She is a very accurate portrait of someone afraid of aging. But this lady has levels of dignity, resourcefulness, kindness, courage, intelligence, and love and Majel Barrett's performance is one of skill and commitment. Yes, she does embarrass her daughter but she also loves her deeply. I never saw her as actively pursuing Picard, but rather enjoying her opportunity to tease him out of his stuffiness. Her interaction with with Alexander is warm and motherly; something the orphaned boy must have deeply needed. You might not have liked her, but I thought she improved every episode she was in.
100% agree. She is a marvel character, and always heralded a joyous episode to experience.
@@jamesrael9557 Yes! Lwaxana absolutely does not belong on this list and frankly, the reasoning comes across as somewhat misogynistic.
Agree completely. I was shocked to see her on the list.
What an excellent comment. A moment ago I also made a comment in her defense ("everyone knows and loves someone like Lwaxana"), but yours is so much more thoughtful than mine. Thanks.
@@BS-vx8dg Thank you so much. I was sure I'd get flamed, but everyone was so supportive.
1. you barely paid lip service to how creepy neelix was. Ethan Philips is a fantastic actor, and the writers did him no favors. The fact that so many love neelix is a testament to his skills.
2. Naomi Wildman. Her interactions with 7 of 9 were some of the most important in Seven's journey to be an individual.
Can't recall Neelix being creepy, and his problem with Naomi seemed to be more she was a only there at strategic places as a sort of Deus Ex Machina.
She never developed in any real way, plus Trekkies hate kids being in "their" fantasy.
Neelix’s character was derived from his race. I at least applauded the writers for creating a race based on a new character trait beyond a different type of Klingon (war death honor ARRRRR!)
@@Creshex8 Other than a select handful of episodes, Neelix wasn't representative of "a new race" though. After the business with the Necrid Expanse with his "old friend Wixx", he might as well have been an Alpha Quadrant character. His best episode was Jatrel, but other than the fact that it painted Talaxians as the Hiroshima residents of the future, Voyager didn't delve all that deep into the race's culture.
@@Cheepchipsable I never found Neelix creepy either nor was I bothered by kids being on starships.
@@yobogoya4367 Voyager didn't delve into any race's culture to deeply, honestly.
How could Commander Shelby not be top of the list?! You're a monster for including Barclay, Naomi, and Lwaxana!
The point of Lwaxana is to be exactly as you describe her. What, you've never had a aunt, sister-in-law, or dare I say mother that just made you cringe every time she showed up? That is her point. Flamboyant, loud, gosh, rude, she offsets the logical, stodgy, proper crew perfectly.
"gauche", not "gosh" ...
Was this list complied by the Mirror Mirror Trek Culture?
Lol. That was clever.
Kai Winn, my child.
EDIT: yo, who is making these lists, you included Naomi Wildman, an actual child for most hated (was she? What?) yet all I recall of her is helping Seven of Nine learn to treat other children like children.
And then other belovèd characters like Neelix, Barclay, and Lwaxana, this list was confusing as to whether it was defining the characters as poorly written, or genuinely hated.
I genuinely hated Q, Dukat, and Kai Winn (and admittedly Narissa but that is purely to the atrocious writing), but not the ones on your list. Come on.
agreed!
100% AGREED!
Kai Winn would make the back of my hair stand up when she was on screen. One of my more hated characters, to be sure.
This list seemed to be more characters that weren't written well -- and if that's the case, then I guess Winn doesn't belong on this list, because the writing and acting was great.
The only character on this list i really hated was the old Kes who returned to the Voyager and destroying dozens of decks with her psychic powers because she remembererd Voyager to be like a prison or something and then traveling back in time to save her younger self and destroy Voyager. However that was possible. I mean, it was not like she was treated like she wasn't part of the crew
@@Anthyrion yeah, I don’t understand why the writers thought that was a necessary (and incredibly weak) reason for Kes to come back and destroy the ship in, what was that Season 6?
You could easily fill this list with the entire list of characters from Star Trek Discovery.
Completely agree.
Especially how they made the Klingons 😭
No, since I don't know the names of most of the bridge crew, I don't hate them.
Like everyone of the bargain basement Klingons!
Eh, I think Michael, which they listed, is the only real problem on Discovery. The problem with the rest of the cast is that they don't get enough screen time to get fleshed out particularly well. The only times any other characters than Burnham get some back story is in the same episodes those particular characters get written out of the show. It's a real bummer.
Dr Pulaski and Barclay are wonderful characters. Love them both
I think a lot of people started to h8 Pulaski specifically cuz of her treatment of Data. You can't treat one of the most popular characters in TNG as nothing more than a toaster and expect the fans to do anything but blow out of proportion any other bad qualities she shows. As for Barclay, yes he was a beloved character so I don't know what this guy was smoking.
Because she took over for Beverly
And as good as she was a few of the episodes she was in weren't great. IIRC, her first episode is one of my last favorite. Not a great start, but I miss her.
I think in Ocampan culture a 2 year old is the equivalent of a 20 year old... They die at 9 (90) so in human time frames Kes could never be an adult.
The notion that Kes is a child and that Paris and Neelix are like child molesters is just weird. Star Trek in so many episodes wants us to get away from that human-centric thinking.
The creator of the video probably also judges Sarek for having much much younger human wives.
@@T0ghar By human standards wouldn't all inter-species relationships be beastiality?
It's pretty obvious the goal was for a usual 7 year season and she'd have come to the end of her life. It was a good idea for a character, they just wrote it poorly and/or cast it poorly. The episode they bring her back and she's twisted and evil has to be one of the most cringe-worthy in all of Trek.
@@BigWillyG1000 if the species has sapience, probably not.
Writers could not decide what to do with Kes. Originally, she was written as a competent medical assistant to the Doctor. Then they gave her telepathy, which is always the kiss of death.
I fail to see how Kes' chronological age has any bearing on her physiological maturation. There are many creatures on planet Earth alone that reach full maturity well _before_ 2 years of age, chronologically, so I fail to see where that's any kind of shock in an extraterrestrial species. Don't forget, her species' growth rate was drastically altered by the Caretaker.
Exactly
And as for her mental maturity...the doctor comments several times about how fast she learns.
Well she looks EXACTLY like a human. Whenever star trek does a "human alien" with biological quirk despite looking and acting EXACTLY like a human is always is a thumbs down for that alone for me.
@@mdxque8393 different ears
@@BrettDel fair enough, but then that's just lazy designing when Trek already has pointy eared aliens that are more significant and related: Vulcans, Romulans and Remens.
Dr. Soran didn't "kill" Capt Kirk. A mishap on a broken bridge did. Let's get that straight.
He set the sequence of events into motion though, but however you slice it he's right that the people calling death threats in on the actor need help separating fantasy from reality.
Dr. Soran didn't kill Captain Kirk, but for another reason. When Kirk was pulled from the time stream and returned to action, it became clear that someone could have gone back in time and prevented his death in the confrontation with Soran as well. I was surprised that they didn't do that. They still could as long as Bill Shatner is still alive...
Trivia Tidbit: Kirk’s death had to be reshot because test audiences rejected his demise as it was initially filmed straight from the script: Dr. Soran kills Kirk with a Phaser blast to the back. If you ask me, the reshoot death was hardly any better. Kirk should have lived for Eternity in the Nexus.
@@johnnyfavorite1194 In Kirk's final scene, He says, "Oh my!" He said that because he realized that he was going on to something and somewhere else. Everyone thought Kirk was dead when the nexus hit the ship, but they couldn't believe it. They couldn't believe it either when Spock died, but Spock came back. It was kind of far fetched. So was Kirk surviving in the Nexus. Some other "far fetched scenario is still fully available to bring Kirk back...
Leave that to the judge and jury sir.
I like Nelix. I like his eager to please and fear to not being able to please. His development was great for someone who didn't know much about Humans.
Rare opinion but I get where you are coming from
Same. I'm binge-watching Voyager for the first time, and he's the most tolerable character on the show.
I liked Naomi Wildman. She would have had more to do if they'd kept Mezoti aboard Voyager.
both were really pretty