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Wouldn't Starfleet HQ have a force field around key point like a high security briefing room? That would make sense..... Right?? O well... Movies. HA! Joe did not kill himself with a butter knife.He killed himself with a table knife.
What about Kirk not listening to Saavik and showing some regulation-mandated caution when approaching the Reliant? Just raise the shields, it's like one button press.
What baffles me is why Starfleet vessels don’t have automated defense systems. The instant Reliant locked phasers (or even raised shields), the Enterprise’s shields should have gone up. In fact, why don’t ships operate with shields up 24x7?
Picard in Generations. Choosing to exit the Nexus moments before Soran launches the rocket into the star when he could have gone back further in time, saved his family from the fire in the vineyard, and upon meeting Soran for the first time just saying "arrest that man, he's planning to destroy a star harbouring a pre-industrial civilisation!"
@@daviddrake5991 PICARD: Guinan, ...can I leave the Nexus? GUINAN: Where would you go? PICARD: I don't understand. GUINAN: But as I said, time has no meaning here. So if you leave you can go anywhere, any time.
Counterpoint - Generations is a really very not good movie and should not be taken seriously because the entire film is far far below anything we saw in TNG
When they beamed down, they always stood facing one direction. It was done in hostile, or unknown, situations. The pads were in a circle. To form a 360 degree perimeter ?
Klingons: "Why are you here, Star Fleet? You are not allowed in the neutral zone!" Star fleet vessel: "investigating why you violated the neutral zone, and are cloaked in it." Yeah, maybe they should let a neutral species patrol the zone.
@@hackman669 Gross! Hickies on alien ass doesn’t sound too appetizing; especially if they’re bony little greys with skin like gauze. You go ahead and hick alien ass. I’ll pass. 😁
To be fair to Joe, how were those environmental suits actually supposed to protect from anything? You were still breathing the air because THE HEADPIECES WEREN'T SEALED.
To be fair the prop department probably wanted it to be like real environmental suits but just didn't have the money nor any want to suffocate the actors in sealed suits under hot studio lights... It still looks like a full body cooking apron though.
They're contamination suits. Even ours aren't air tight though they are often pressurized with HEPA filtered air so all the leakage is out to the environment.
How about not checking Geordi's visor before returning him to duty. Or at least use a backup device. It's not the first time his visor was manipulated.
@@Craxin01 its a software issue, why would the scanner detect that? now a signal going from his visor to outside the ship.... that I would think would be detectable.
Say what you want about Commodore Decker, William Windom's portrayal of this character is THE high water mark of STOS! William Shatner wishes he could act as well as that. What a great role! What a great actor!
The Doomsday Machine is one of favorite episodes of Star Trek ever, so I gotta disagree with #3. Shortly after the USS Constillation is discovered, the Enterprise crew play back Decker's logs. In the logs, the Constillation was investigating a planet breaking up, goes to investigate and then is attacked and crippled by the Doomsday Machine. Decker beamed his crew down to evacuate them (I guess the concept of escape pods wasn't invented yet). Decker had no way of knowing the Doomsday Machine was responsible for breaking up the planet, or that Doomsday Machine would destroy another planet. He was indeed acting in the best interest of his crew to beam them off the Constillation which Decker assumed would quickly be entirely destroyed by the Doomsday Machine, but instead it ignored the Constillation afterwards and went after the planet instead. The whole story works so wonderfully because Decker was faced with an impossible choice with no answer. Does he leave his crew onboard a crippled ship where life support is out on most of it when facing a deadly enemy ship or does he evacuate his crew to safety? It still seems that evacuation was the correct move even knowing what we know.
Escape pods use up space needed for other systems, some intended to keep the ship going in a disaster. I imagine the ability furlong term use was limited also. And with ships slower and SF much small, the chance of rescue was slimmer. In our mars mission, there won't be an escape pod option for the simple reason that anything less than a ship capable of actually returning to earth is meaningless. It would only delay the inevitable.
Psi 2000 was a frozen planet. The station Spock and tormelson were checking out had a dead crew due to their own exposure to the virus. So, if he was inside an environmental suit, how could he remove his glove?.
Screw Archer's 'difficult' position regarding the cogenitor. Diplomacy or not, prime directive or not (and they didn't even have a formal PD anyway); when someone asks you for asylum you grant it. You can make friends again later. The cogenitor was starting to live a better life, a life they couldn't keep at home. And all they asked for is a ticket away. That's it. It's Archer refused, they killed themselves, and the prick had the gall to try and blame Tripp. I was so pissed at him, and pissed at Tripp for not challenging him on it.
Yes, Archer went around doing way worse while everyone's expected to treat it as right and just because Archer did it yet Tripp he's condemning for things he's got no right to condemn him over. Worst Enterprise captain ever.
What? People die when you deny them political asylum? That's unheard of! I'm sooooo shocked I need to find someone to blame. After all, everybody knows that when you deny political asylum, you are never sending anyone to their deaths! That's politics 101, whenever you send a refugee back to where they came from, there is no reason to expect them to die. In all seriousness, I could see someone in a dificult possition deny asylum because the plot asks for it. But not knowing that to deny political asylum means murdering someone is a different thing. Had he said "I had to send someone to their deaths because of a possition you put me in" it would be fine, but blaming Tripp for the death? Nope. You murdered someone Archer, and you did it knowing what you were doing, so don't try to pin the death on someone else.
That did not make sense to me either. I was under the impression was asylum is always granted while negotiating or even verifying reasons ect... How does it harm current negotiations to provide asylum to one citizen who raises doubts about those you are negotiating with. The reasoning to deny was questionable as well. This person is asking for political protection from the people we are negotiating with. Maybe, just maybe, we should find out why & verify their complaints.
That should be a question for the actors who had to wear them. The most uncomfortable costumes..! I think the most uncomfortable starfleet uniforms may not be as bad as some of the alien outfits and prosthetics. Also maybe the most indecent uniforms in the 1960s for the women!! Or the flared trousers that might get caught in things.
I'm not sure Trip was dumb. He was trying to do the right thing. Vissians are literally Gilead in space. No matter how much shiny tech they offer you, you have to give asylum to the handmaid, I mean, the cogenitor
At that moment I would send in section 31 and buy a few cloaking devices from the Romulans to find some covert way to destroy the Dominion from within.
9:27 You can't blame Commodore Stone for that. Spock himself ran the diagnostic on the ship computer, and found it to be mechanically sound. Computers, and the understanding around them were very different during the time the series was produced.
So many dumb moments in Star Trek. But my favourite has to be from the Pakled episode where Riker beams LaForge onto the Pakled ship even after Worf said that this was a not a good idea ( To be fair, Worf always gets denied there ).
"Damn, I was gonna say it was a bad idea, but now that Worf said it we'll have to send him just to deny him" You don't understand, if you don't fight klingons on everything they say you have to fight them fisically. They need to fight, so you either treat them like a lil beach or they'll be hormonal for the next week trying to kill everything that moves.
Uh, if the ship was too damaged to support the remaining crew, what else was he supposed to do? Keep them up there until they all died? Decker didn't have a choice here.
women and children to warp capable oh wait it was TOS and shuttles didn't have warp(and that in TOS there were no families and few civilians on ships) it is very much a no win scenario, hell there are more chances to win the Kobayashi Maru scenario
I have to disagree with you about Commodore Decker. The "planet killer" wasn't seen by Decker or his crew to do anything to any planets. It only attacked the ship. As Spock might say, Decker's decision was entirely logical based on the information available up to that point.
The ship had emergency transporters, which could handle about 40 at a time. They were not seen on shows. I can't remember if they were talked about or not.
I can’t remember which Voyager episode it is, but I distinctly remember Chakotay saying something like, “everything we do seems to have the opposite effect on us. Shall we launch a photon torpedo?” It really made me laugh as one of the stupidest things a first office could say.
@@dillonbuford Cool! Someone I went to school with is a roofing contractor. He does exclusively nuclear power stations, enormous health and safety regulations to follow!
I loved the Equinox and Ransoms crew, I wished the crew that beamed over at the last moment, had more on screen time in voyager, but alas it was not meant to be
@@Mofix222 I hadn't read that before, that would have added an excellent dynamic to the show with 2 Federation ships in the Delta Quadrant. Shame it never came to fruition.
They're not slaves. They are a third (and rare) gender required for their species to survive. It's not comparable to any social situation we have so how can you possible deem to judge the optimal social mechanics of it. That's the whole point of the episode. Trip was medling in things that were beyond his understanding. Recklessly uniformed acts, not matter how well intentioned, are not noble, as they are more likely to produce damage rather than help. The cogenitor literally committed suicide due to Trips actions.
This video is being written and recorded in 2021.... do you really think it's basic common sense that anyone should know to keep basic health and safety gear on when there is a potential for deadly infection?
Vulcans live much longer so wouldn't it be okay for Spock to take over the ship because it would take longer for him to start feeling any real effects?
That was actually discussed in the episode, and it was Spock himself who vetoed that decision, saying that he too was affected, even if it was less than the others. And *that* was Spock's dumbest decision.
@@BS-vx8dg yes Spock at diminished ability was still far superior to the armchair guy with no experience dealing with such situations and therefor totally unqualified despite technically having rank for it.
100% agree that Rekha Sharma was completely wasted in Discovery. She was much better used in BSG, also in Star Trek Online, and in Star Trek Continues.
Personally, I think the commodore in the M-5 episode was a bigger jerk than Stocker or Decker. When the computer worked fine, he made a crack about Kirk being useless. When it went crazy it was 'What the devil is KIRK doing?'
That's always bugged me. The entire point of the games were to field test whether the M-5 could handle all the decisions for a starship including combat, that it would be in control during various situations and to see if it was buggy or not. There was no logical, rational reason during the combat test to fault Kirk when the M-5 was clearly in command. His first thought should have been 'what's wrong with the M-5?' yet he keeps pinning it all on Kirk.
Commodore Wesley got karma for serving on a ship for the war games, and shitting on Kirk in front of their respective bridge crews. Kirk's bridge crew knew that it was a dick move and wouldn't have been reprimanded for saying so. And would a highly experienced ship's CMO not know what dunsel meant?
@@Jjj53214 Seriously, I've scratched my nose using thick snow gloves and that did the trick. Those thin-ass gloves should have had no difficulty allowing him to scratch his nose.
I still can't figure out why Starfleet didn't check up in Khan every so often or why the Reliant's sensors failed to detect that Ceti Alpha 6 was missing.......
@@girlgarde Yeah, you’d’ve thought they’ve checked up regularly, and officially charted it. Instead, no one seemed to even know it had been visited before! Crappy official records, or it had never been recorded, or something.
“Whhhaaaaaa! You can’t make me wear a mask! Whhhhaaaaaa! I’m so tough I’m going to whine like a little kid and hold my breath until you stop making me wear a mask!” (Stomps feet).
@@keirfarnum6811 "I'm not having the vaccine, it might be bad for me". This said to me multiple times by a workmate who then caught Covid and ended up in hospital.
It would have been far more interesting if we found Landry in the mirror universe and realized she was actually prime Landry; that in season one we were actually watching mirror Landry -- which would explain her penchant for brutal force. But no.
That security officer was portrayed as being solidly competent, then she decides to lower the forcefield on the brig for an entity they've nicknamed The Ripper.
Honestly, I disagree with #2. Riker saving that girl's life would have been a slippery slope. If you give in to the temptation to use godlike powers just once, you effectively justify doing it again.. and again... not succumbing to that temptation was the best decision he could make. I'd replace it with the two security guards that were ordered to escore Offenhouse off the bridge near the end of the TNG episode 'The Neutral Zone'. As soon as the Romulans appeared on the viewscreen, they just.. stopped and stared, and let him speak. If you're a security officer, and you're ordered to get a civilian off the bridge in a crisis situation, you don't stop and stare just because there's something cool on the viewscreen. Sure it all worked out, but he could easily have antagonized the romulans, or distracted the bridge crew.
Fun fact: if you look at the clip shown here at the end with Spock in his environmental suit, you can clearly see that the glove and sleeve don’t line up so there is a gap where his wrist is exposed
Also having a high brass meetings in a room with windows,... is kinda rather stupid... as I am sure the enemy will have cameras that can read their lips from miles away from some other building. Thus instantly knowing what they are talking about.
In JJ's world building, all important objects must be able to create lens flare. Funny how due to tight TV budgets Starfleet HQ always looked...correct.
I think you have enough material for at least a 50 dumbest Decisions.... or at a mnimum another 4 episodes like this one.... hint.. just look at Brannon Braga written episodes to find your material... plus any episodes with Commodores or Admirals in them (Kirk included - aka First movie...)..
Decker apparently didn't realize that the doomsday machine would switch its focus to a much more appetizing target like a planet. This very understandable since he had just met it and was under huge pressure to save his crew.
Shouldn't someone like Olsen being an adrenalin junkie be weeded out before they would get in Star Fleet? Kirk superficially looks like one also, but he obviously is not since acts responsibly to succeed as a captain.
And that's what the Prime Directive is, a pinky promise to let societies die if they're not warp capable. But I understand what you're saying, that one child's life was more important that saving Data's friend's society. I know they did end up saving the but Picard, Worf, and Riker were pretty addamit about following the prime directive.
They turned it into religious dogma that was not to be questioned, quite ironic and hypocritical given how Picard was putting so much effort into preventing one civilization developing religious thinking because of the Federation. Once you cross into the realm of saying something can't be questioned things are guaranteed to go wrong, and a directive that requires moral cowardice and callously condemning entire species to extinction because 'well they're too primitive' not only must be questioned but be condemned.
I'm putting up a fact based defense for Decker. Ship is heavily damaged life support is minimal not enough to sustain the surviving crew they would have died a slow death on the Constellation.
Always #1 for me: Being able to beam aboard an enemy ship through the shields the weapons can't get through.. and not beaming a photon torpedo bomb instead.... However I will hold that not following sterile protocols in an infection situation is right up there with it.
Usually they can't beam through the shields. Until the writers need them to for the plot. I think TOS was the most consistent with not beaming through shields, surprisingly enough.
It gets worse Think about the transporters. They can convert matter to energy and back again. They obviously can channel unbelievable amounts of energy. By Einstein's measure, a single gram of matter turned into energy is the equivalent of a 50 kiloton atomic explosion. We've seen at least one episode when the Enterprise transported something off the ship, but did not reconvert it to matter -- "beam energy only". So it's possible to beam something out, but not turn it back into matter. So why did the Voyager have an energy shortage, but still had working transporters? Why not take a lump of waste, or some junk, or pieces of dead Kazon, or matter swept up by the ship's Bussard collectors, "beam them up", but then just use use energy to run the ship for a month? That's called the "how to take a half-working transporter and the Deck 5 crew quarters' head and make a total-conversion power plant and sewage reclaimation system" technique.
Now think of using a modified transporter to "beam up" the energy of an enemy's shields, using that energy to continue to power the transporter beam. When the shields are depleted and fall, you can now tear away huge chunks of the enemy ship's hull, using the power gained to keep firing. When nothing is left of the enemy, reconstitute enough of the remaining energy to make parts to repair your ship with. The remainder can be turned into dense matter, stored to power the ship if necessary using the same technique. Who needs antimatter, when you can do the same thing with less risk?
Honorable mention to: "I've requested a transfer to Security Division. I figure that will give me more opportunities for landing party duty, maybe some First Contacts, and look good on my record."
Too numerous to mention but every time a Star Fleet officer experienced or witnessed some alarming symptom or phenomena and, when questioned, answers with “I’m fine, everything is fine.” Life threatening chaos invariably follows.
What if you did report every alarming symptom or phenomena? You end up being maligned as a hypochondriac, just ask Reg Barclay. Instead, "I can't be getting sick," is the first thing we tend to say when we get the sniffles. "Just ignore it and it'll hopefully go away."
Starfleet tends to be kinda trash in tactics. I blame the “we’re totally not military, gais!” attitude of early TNG. And of course, designing shuttles that are not airfoil lifting bodies is something I will always call out. Depending completely on super-whammy-dyne sci-fi tech to keep your atmospheric craft from dropping like the brick it looks like is supremely arrogant and just _asking_ the Demon Murphy to come kick you in the butt. And he does, in several episodes across the series.
at #9 when people talk about how they think Marcus was involved with the attack in that scene just cause he survived it don't really take into account the fact he survived was cause he got lucky he came close to dying along with everyone cause they all were caught off guard
Although he might not count as a starfleet officer clearly the dumbest decision is the security guard who stood with his back to the elevator when Van Gelder was going to come up. Where did he think he would come from?
Ah, ptobably dut to the 'Zeroth ' General Order, "0.1 :Any compromise between economics and credibility is to be resolved in favor of the production budget " Of course, 0.2 , the
Because it was an inside job to have Khan disable them or that the federation really thought no one is going to attack San Francisco directly. Which only shows how vulnerable earth really is without a starfleet presence there.
Sorry for Decker hell NO yeah he got his ass kicked but he decided to beam down his entire crew to a planet with a planet killer on the lose. Didn't he the planet killer was eating plants and he thought it was a good idea instead of running away to bemis entire crew down to a planet then the planet killer wipe them out for its dinner
Kudos to Spock for *programming* a 23rd century computer in chess! Advanced strategies and all. It was easier than VR Kal-toh, to be sure, but kudos nonetheless.
Wouldn't Starfleet HQ have a force field around key point like a high security briefing room? That would make sense..... Right?? O well... Movies. HA! Joe did not kill himself with a butter knife.He killed himself with a table knife.
Re - The Cogenitor Was it a dumb decision? Really? It was certainly tragic, or rather it ended in tragedy, but this tragedy may have been exactly what it takes for their society to have changed, such that Cogenitors may have finally been treated as equals. It usually takes a tragedy for a society to change its practices, so Tucker may have made a fortuitously, serendipitous decision and not at all a 'dumb decision.'
'Cause it was an actual rank until 1983. All those Admirals that gave direct orders to Picard later on would have actually been a Commodore until then.
Not sure who, but captain and Ben Sisko USS Saratoga for thinking it was ok to bring civilians including children along when fighting the Borg cube at Wolf 359.
I laughed so LOUD during the description of Mat Decker's decision- that my wife came in to find out the reason for the outburst. I replayed it for her. "Ah." she said. Love that Lady! (FOR THE RECORD: my ABSOLUTE FAVORITE moment in Start Trek: Decker tells Kirk he beamed the crew to the 3rd planet. It is here where Kirk reminds Decker that, " there IS no 3rd planet!". Decker- breaking down into hysteria- "DON'T you think I KNOW THAT?!?! There WAS one - But Not ANY MORE!!!" God Bless Willian Windom!!! I am gonna go watch it again now...)
14:15 William Windom played Commodore Decker with so much heart and passion that I believe that he is probably one of the best guest stars who *ever* appeared on TOS. I wanted to cry for him. His character was so tragic that his death was almost a relief.
There seem to be two main breeds of Starfleet officer above the rank of captain: dumb, or crazy. I watched Pegasus in honour of Captain Picard Day recently and remarked that it was a good thing that ship captains had a good amount of autonomy, or the galaxy would be mildly screwed.
MILDLY?!? Anyway, I think this indicates an even stupider aspect of Starfleet; it's obvious that promotion above the rank of captain is a highly politicized process.
for Marcus' Meeting; Khan wouldve probably manipulated him into setting it all up, while Khan helped build the new ship. Then getting Marcus mind twisted up in paranoia, used his enhanced intellect to make a blind spot in Marcus' thinking.
How about Riker firing on the Tanarian ship in the episode, Darmok? Yes, it ended well, but he could easily have started a war with a people the Federation COULDN'T TALK TO!
I can't see arrogance in anything that Trip did. He was being friendly to a person who was obviously extremely introverted. He treated the cogenitor as an equal. That is not a dumb decision. It was a tragic decision.
That is something I always thought about. The prime directive is so incredibly one-sided. Ok, Starfleet shouldnt interfere with a species' cultural development. That is alright. But Starfleet is always the one that must accomodate for a more stricter, immoral society. Why aren't THEY more wary and careful of exposing their oppressed people to the egalitarian, extremely accepting Starfleet? It sounds to me like the wiser decision wouldve been to not even bring the progenitor aboard.
The planet killer episode really fits a Lovecraftian theme, IMO. I loved it, but in a series with so many gods getting their butts kicked by humans, because... moxie, it really could never gibe well and all but demands criticism.
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Hey, Sean, what's your Starfleet position and rank?
It is an awful game.
Free-to-play mobile game? Oh, you mean a pay-to-win microtransactionfest.
Wouldn't Starfleet HQ have a force field around key point like a high security briefing room? That would make sense..... Right?? O well... Movies. HA! Joe did not kill himself with a butter knife.He killed himself with a table knife.
U misspelled OFFICERS
What about Kirk not listening to Saavik and showing some regulation-mandated caution when approaching the Reliant? Just raise the shields, it's like one button press.
Looked more like a dozen switches.
Amen
Well, in Kirk's defense, they were just one big happy fleet.
What baffles me is why Starfleet vessels don’t have automated defense systems. The instant Reliant locked phasers (or even raised shields), the Enterprise’s shields should have gone up.
In fact, why don’t ships operate with shields up 24x7?
@@nathanaelculver5308 It did seem to have a short delay between the command to raise shields and the shields hitting 100% power.
Picard in Generations. Choosing to exit the Nexus moments before Soran launches the rocket into the star when he could have gone back further in time, saved his family from the fire in the vineyard, and upon meeting Soran for the first time just saying "arrest that man, he's planning to destroy a star harbouring a pre-industrial civilisation!"
Thank you!
Might have been near the Nexus when they exited.
@@daviddrake5991 PICARD: Guinan, ...can I leave the Nexus?
GUINAN: Where would you go?
PICARD: I don't understand.
GUINAN: But as I said, time has no meaning here. So if you leave you can go anywhere, any time.
And the Enterprise D would not be dead
Counterpoint - Generations is a really very not good movie and should not be taken seriously because the entire film is far far below anything we saw in TNG
You can add Rick Berman giving Terry Farrell an ultimatum to the list.
" Remember a starship can do many things a Star Base can not."
Captain Kirk to Commodore Stocker.
" The deadly years".
Rick Berman is a Starfleet officer?
Technically, many dedication plaques from TNG show that Rick Berman is an Admiral in Starfleet Operations.
@@ussgettysburg316 Among a few others from the production crew.
I’m intrigued to know what the ultimatum was…
You missed the worst Star Trek decision ever. The Paramount brass allowing JJ Abrams to have anything to do with the franchise :)
Jar Jar Abrams *AND* Alex Klutzman you mean.
#11: wearing red and beaming down to an unknown planet with Kirk, Spock and McCoy
Scotty really had balls.
@@TheSorrel To be fair that rule only applied to security officers and newly enlisted men!!
When they beamed down, they always stood facing one direction. It was done in hostile, or unknown, situations. The pads were in a circle. To form a 360 degree perimeter ?
Unless you are Scotty or Uhura.
"wearing red and ..."
And the dumb part would be.... they were following orders, unless working in the enterprise is.
6:02 Anyone notice how Neutral Zone only seems to apply to Federation vessels? Klingons and Romulans are always in the zone. 😂
Would love to hick some alien ass!!!! Just send in some third party separatists to deal a nasty blow to these space rats!!!
Klingons: "Why are you here, Star Fleet? You are not allowed in the neutral zone!"
Star fleet vessel: "investigating why you violated the neutral zone, and are cloaked in it."
Yeah, maybe they should let a neutral species patrol the zone.
Not very “neutral” is it. It’s supposed to be a demilitarized zone; but doesn’t actually function like one.
@@hackman669
Gross! Hickies on alien ass doesn’t sound too appetizing; especially if they’re bony little greys with skin like gauze. You go ahead and hick alien ass. I’ll pass. 😁
The treaty was probably written by Joe Biden.
To be fair to Joe, how were those environmental suits actually supposed to protect from anything? You were still breathing the air because THE HEADPIECES WEREN'T SEALED.
yeah but to be fair the virus was not shown to be transmitted through air just through contact cause spock did not get infected
@@ranecE They didn't know that going in.
To be fair the prop department probably wanted it to be like real environmental suits but just didn't have the money nor any want to suffocate the actors in sealed suits under hot studio lights...
It still looks like a full body cooking apron though.
@@duncanwilliams2350 Actors need to suffer for their art. What's suffocation to a production budget? Redshirts can easily be replaced.
They're contamination suits. Even ours aren't air tight though they are often pressurized with HEPA filtered air so all the leakage is out to the environment.
How about not checking Geordi's visor before returning him to duty. Or at least use a backup device. It's not the first time his visor was manipulated.
You'd think their scanner technology would have detected the manipulation.
Or the time Geordi and Data was testing a weapon in engineering....right next to the warp core.
@@Craxin01 its a software issue, why would the scanner detect that? now a signal going from his visor to outside the ship.... that I would think would be detectable.
I went to see 2009 Star Trek with non-Trek fans. They had NO IDEA why I was laughing so hard when Olson appeared on screen in his RED suit. 🤣🤣
All the Trekkies KNEW!
Say what you want about Commodore Decker, William Windom's portrayal of this character is THE high water mark of STOS! William Shatner wishes he could act as well as that. What a great role! What a great actor!
While I totally agree with you in re WW, I saw a copy of the TOS Bible entry for Kirk, and WS almost perfectly portrays that Kirk.
The Doomsday Machine is one of favorite episodes of Star Trek ever, so I gotta disagree with #3. Shortly after the USS Constillation is discovered, the Enterprise crew play back Decker's logs. In the logs, the Constillation was investigating a planet breaking up, goes to investigate and then is attacked and crippled by the Doomsday Machine. Decker beamed his crew down to evacuate them (I guess the concept of escape pods wasn't invented yet).
Decker had no way of knowing the Doomsday Machine was responsible for breaking up the planet, or that Doomsday Machine would destroy another planet. He was indeed acting in the best interest of his crew to beam them off the Constillation which Decker assumed would quickly be entirely destroyed by the Doomsday Machine, but instead it ignored the Constillation afterwards and went after the planet instead.
The whole story works so wonderfully because Decker was faced with an impossible choice with no answer. Does he leave his crew onboard a crippled ship where life support is out on most of it when facing a deadly enemy ship or does he evacuate his crew to safety? It still seems that evacuation was the correct move even knowing what we know.
Escape pods use up space needed for other systems, some intended to keep the ship going in a disaster. I imagine the ability furlong term use was limited also. And with ships slower and SF much small, the chance of rescue was slimmer.
In our mars mission, there won't be an escape pod option for the simple reason that anything less than a ship capable of actually returning to earth is meaningless. It would only delay the inevitable.
I think the dumbest decision is being able to even scratch your nose in an environmental suit
Even as a ten-year-old watching TOS in the late ‘60s I thought those hoods weren’t much better than just throwing a towel over your head.
Psi 2000 was a frozen planet. The station Spock and tormelson were checking out had a dead crew due to their own exposure to the virus.
So, if he was inside an environmental suit, how could he remove his glove?.
Whichever officer designed the computer consoles to be filled with rocks and explosives should surely be on this list somewhere.
Captain Georgio beaming onto a Klingon battle cruiser with only herself and ONE PERSON.
Because apparently its not dramatic enough if Georgio didn't bring in back up
Plot armor
Screw Archer's 'difficult' position regarding the cogenitor. Diplomacy or not, prime directive or not (and they didn't even have a formal PD anyway); when someone asks you for asylum you grant it. You can make friends again later. The cogenitor was starting to live a better life, a life they couldn't keep at home. And all they asked for is a ticket away. That's it. It's
Archer refused, they killed themselves, and the prick had the gall to try and blame Tripp. I was so pissed at him, and pissed at Tripp for not challenging him on it.
Guilt made tripp not challenge his authority
Agreed, that ruined the show for me. I could not stand to see any more of Captain Archer and so stopped watching the show.
Yes, Archer went around doing way worse while everyone's expected to treat it as right and just because Archer did it yet Tripp he's condemning for things he's got no right to condemn him over. Worst Enterprise captain ever.
What? People die when you deny them political asylum? That's unheard of! I'm sooooo shocked I need to find someone to blame. After all, everybody knows that when you deny political asylum, you are never sending anyone to their deaths! That's politics 101, whenever you send a refugee back to where they came from, there is no reason to expect them to die.
In all seriousness, I could see someone in a dificult possition deny asylum because the plot asks for it. But not knowing that to deny political asylum means murdering someone is a different thing. Had he said "I had to send someone to their deaths because of a possition you put me in" it would be fine, but blaming Tripp for the death? Nope. You murdered someone Archer, and you did it knowing what you were doing, so don't try to pin the death on someone else.
That did not make sense to me either. I was under the impression was asylum is always granted while negotiating or even verifying reasons ect...
How does it harm current negotiations to provide asylum to one citizen who raises doubts about those you are negotiating with. The reasoning to deny was questionable as well. This person is asking for political protection from the people we are negotiating with. Maybe, just maybe, we should find out why & verify their complaints.
Please do "Top 10 Most Impractical Uniforms", about the most impractical uniforms, survival-suits and space-suits.
Number 1: TNG, men in dresses. Number 2: TNG, dress uniform, coat and hose.
That should be a question for the actors who had to wear them. The most uncomfortable costumes..! I think the most uncomfortable starfleet uniforms may not be as bad as some of the alien outfits and prosthetics. Also maybe the most indecent uniforms in the 1960s for the women!! Or the flared trousers that might get caught in things.
"Let's make HazMat suits out of shower curtains!"
"And space helmets with faceplates made of bug screens instead of polycarbonate!"
You watch a list like this and marvel at how Starfleet survived beyond the TOS era xD
The Klingons, Romulans and the other races in the Alpha and Beta quadrants were all probably behind the bike sheds when brains were being handed out.
Watch TOS as well there are some questionable and ridiculous decisions as well. So marvel at how they survived that far haha
i worked retail for 9 years, i marvel out how humans have made it this far in real life.
I'm not sure Trip was dumb. He was trying to do the right thing. Vissians are literally Gilead in space. No matter how much shiny tech they offer you, you have to give asylum to the handmaid, I mean, the cogenitor
Starfleet ignoring the Dominion's warnings and continuing incursions into their space.
At that moment I would send in section 31 and buy a few cloaking devices from the Romulans to find some covert way to destroy the Dominion from within.
i forgot that one
Joe's biggest mistake was not being born an Irishman.
So --- which ethnic group you're born into is a Choice? Wow! That explains Everything!!!
@@waynemarvin5661 I guess you haven't seen "The Naked Time." I was referencing a line from the episode.
9:27 You can't blame Commodore Stone for that. Spock himself ran the diagnostic on the ship computer, and found it to be mechanically sound. Computers, and the understanding around them were very different during the time the series was produced.
No fooling. Univac was only a teenager when Star Trek TOS came out.
So many dumb moments in Star Trek. But my favourite has to be from the Pakled episode where Riker beams LaForge onto the Pakled ship even after Worf said that this was a not a good idea ( To be fair, Worf always gets denied there ).
"Damn, I was gonna say it was a bad idea, but now that Worf said it we'll have to send him just to deny him"
You don't understand, if you don't fight klingons on everything they say you have to fight them fisically. They need to fight, so you either treat them like a lil beach or they'll be hormonal for the next week trying to kill everything that moves.
A dumb decision pointed out somewhere is the diplomat who negotiated that their side can go into the neutral zone and yours can't.
Uh, if the ship was too damaged to support the remaining crew, what else was he supposed to do? Keep them up there until they all died? Decker didn't have a choice here.
Yup, that’s why I always think Decker shouldn’t be in this list… damned whatever he did.
women and children to warp capable oh wait it was TOS and shuttles didn't have warp(and that in TOS there were no families and few civilians on ships)
it is very much a no win scenario, hell there are more chances to win the Kobayashi Maru scenario
uh, he never should have engaged the doomsday machine to begin with.
I have to disagree with you about Commodore Decker. The "planet killer" wasn't seen by Decker or his crew to do anything to any planets. It only attacked the ship. As Spock might say, Decker's decision was entirely logical based on the information available up to that point.
But it's one giant ship. No way it could've tracked them on a bunch of shuttle craft and escape pods.
Actually they saw the planet killer carving up a planet.
sorry but no. decker and crew saw it slicing up planets. decker should have thought of that. he made bad decisions from the start
As a kid in the 70's I always thought of the logistics of beaming down 420 crew only 6 at a time?
The ship had emergency transporters, which could handle about 40 at a time. They were not seen on shows. I can't remember if they were talked about or not.
I can’t remember which Voyager episode it is, but I distinctly remember Chakotay saying something like, “everything we do seems to have the opposite effect on us. Shall we launch a photon torpedo?”
It really made me laugh as one of the stupidest things a first office could say.
I work in nuclear power plants. Take my word that number 1 is a hundred times dumber than you think. If I did that career over
Sorry for being nosey, but what do you do?
@@sarahscott5305 scaffolding
@@dillonbuford Cool! Someone I went to school with is a roofing contractor. He does exclusively nuclear power stations, enormous health and safety regulations to follow!
@@sarahscott5305 very much so unfortunately I can't go into detail
@@dillonbuford I was going to ask if you work in sector 7G, because how can I resist low hanging fruit like that?
Top 10 Single Episode Romances That ACTUALLY WORKED
Can such a list even get to ten?
You telling me that there WERE 10 such romances? 😎
I loved the Equinox and Ransoms crew, I wished the crew that beamed over at the last moment, had more on screen time in voyager, but alas it was not meant to be
Especially Ensign Marla Gilmore.
Originally it was planned to have the Equinox around for at least one season.
@@Mofix222 I hadn't read that before, that would have added an excellent dynamic to the show with 2 Federation ships in the Delta Quadrant.
Shame it never came to fruition.
We seen #1 dumb choice being made everyday
We can't blame Crewman Olsen too much. He did have the red space suit. It was just inevitable.
But Kirk should have known not to give the charges to the guy in red...
The cogenitor was a slave. They saw a new way to be and wanted that. It was cultural exchange. I'm surprised at this bad take.
Agreed, I was so disgusted at Captain Archer that I could not bear to watch another episode.
They're not slaves. They are a third (and rare) gender required for their species to survive. It's not comparable to any social situation we have so how can you possible deem to judge the optimal social mechanics of it. That's the whole point of the episode. Trip was medling in things that were beyond his understanding. Recklessly uniformed acts, not matter how well intentioned, are not noble, as they are more likely to produce damage rather than help. The cogenitor literally committed suicide due to Trips actions.
So I guess "The captain and first officer beaming down alone to a known-hostile environment -- Captain Terrel" was number 11 then?
Actually, letting ANY captain or division chief beam down into such a situation unless there is an absolute necessity to do it is totally STUPID!😎
- Mr Spock, you're the most cold blooded man ...
- Thank you doctor. I just won my fourth game.
- That's impossible !
#2: Not saving the child.
Picard: "YoU wErE RiGhT nOt To tRy!"
To quote Admiral Clancy: "The sheer f**king hubris!"
This video is being written and recorded in 2021.... do you really think it's basic common sense that anyone should know to keep basic health and safety gear on when there is a potential for deadly infection?
"Everything I needed to know in life I learned from watching Star Trek." :-)
Vulcans live much longer so wouldn't it be okay for Spock to take over the ship because it would take longer for him to start feeling any real effects?
Spock was old enough for needed to have to turn up the heat. There for he was aging at a faster rate to make up the fact that he was half Vulcan.
That was actually discussed in the episode, and it was Spock himself who vetoed that decision, saying that he too was affected, even if it was less than the others. And *that* was Spock's dumbest decision.
@@BS-vx8dg Very weird.
I had the same thought.
@@BS-vx8dg yes Spock at diminished ability was still far superior to the armchair guy with no experience dealing with such situations and therefor totally unqualified despite technically having rank for it.
officers doing dumb stuff isn't new to the military.
The truest and best comment so far.
100% agree that Rekha Sharma was completely wasted in Discovery. She was much better used in BSG, also in Star Trek Online, and in Star Trek Continues.
I don't remember her in Continues...
i like my solution to not seeing her talent wasted. refuse to watch discovery.
Personally, I think the commodore in the M-5 episode was a bigger jerk than Stocker or Decker. When the computer worked fine, he made a crack about Kirk being useless. When it went crazy it was 'What the devil is KIRK doing?'
That's always bugged me. The entire point of the games were to field test whether the M-5 could handle all the decisions for a starship including combat, that it would be in control during various situations and to see if it was buggy or not. There was no logical, rational reason during the combat test to fault Kirk when the M-5 was clearly in command. His first thought should have been 'what's wrong with the M-5?' yet he keeps pinning it all on Kirk.
Amen!
Commodore Wesley got karma for serving on a ship for the war games, and shitting on Kirk in front of their respective bridge crews. Kirk's bridge crew knew that it was a dick move and wouldn't have been reprimanded for saying so.
And would a highly experienced ship's CMO not know what dunsel meant?
To this day I still don’t understand why Joe never put his glove back on.
Say it ain't so, Joe!!!
His nose was itchy. Apparently, you can’t scratch your nose while wearing a glove.
@@Jjj53214 Seriously, I've scratched my nose using thick snow gloves and that did the trick. Those thin-ass gloves should have had no difficulty allowing him to scratch his nose.
Especially when he put his hand on something cold! He'd think, "Hm, cold. Oh I forgot to put my glove back on!"
Same here. His stupid mistake not only got himself killed, he nearly got everyone on the Enterprise killed in the process.
Number one should be Kirk leaving Khan unsupervised on a forgotten planet with Chekov&co miscounting the planets at close second.
Should have left a probe to monitor the planet. Never leave a master mind unattended.
They didn’t miscount. There was a disaster that changed the planet orbits.
I still can't figure out why Starfleet didn't check up in Khan every so often or why the Reliant's sensors failed to detect that Ceti Alpha 6 was missing.......
@@girlgarde Yeah, you’d’ve thought they’ve checked up regularly, and officially charted it. Instead, no one seemed to even know it had been visited before! Crappy official records, or it had never been recorded, or something.
@@zorakj Well they never went back to Mafia planet to get their "cut" either.
Sadly, as the past 2 years have shown... people are DUMB when it comes to health stuff.
Yeah, I've personally retired, "avoid like the plague," from my vocabulary. People don't do that.
“Whhhaaaaaa! You can’t make me wear a mask! Whhhhaaaaaa! I’m so tough I’m going to whine like a little kid and hold my breath until you stop making me wear a mask!” (Stomps feet).
@@Craxin01
Maybe use “avoid like a plague rat” instead?
@@keirfarnum6811 "I'm not having the vaccine, it might be bad for me". This said to me multiple times by a workmate who then caught Covid and ended up in hospital.
@@paullaing5921 yet most the people that get Omicron are vaccinated. OOPS.
Landry is the only character who's the same in the prime and mirror universes. Always loved that.
It would have been far more interesting if we found Landry in the mirror universe and realized she was actually prime Landry; that in season one we were actually watching mirror Landry -- which would explain her penchant for brutal force. But no.
That security officer was portrayed as being solidly competent, then she decides to lower the forcefield on the brig for an entity they've nicknamed The Ripper.
Oh, the irony. Snarky comments about being dumb and your staff gives us: “10 DUMBEST DECISIONS BY STARFLEET OFFICIERS” at 0:29. Yes, “OFFICIERS.”
Wouldn't that be someone who makes offices?😎😎😎
Honestly, I disagree with #2. Riker saving that girl's life would have been a slippery slope. If you give in to the temptation to use godlike powers just once, you effectively justify doing it again.. and again... not succumbing to that temptation was the best decision he could make.
I'd replace it with the two security guards that were ordered to escore Offenhouse off the bridge near the end of the TNG episode 'The Neutral Zone'. As soon as the Romulans appeared on the viewscreen, they just.. stopped and stared, and let him speak. If you're a security officer, and you're ordered to get a civilian off the bridge in a crisis situation, you don't stop and stare just because there's something cool on the viewscreen. Sure it all worked out, but he could easily have antagonized the romulans, or distracted the bridge crew.
Where's my girl Brie, anyway?
Friday!
Fun fact: if you look at the clip shown here at the end with Spock in his environmental suit, you can clearly see that the glove and sleeve don’t line up so there is a gap where his wrist is exposed
Was a SNCO in the British Army for 12 years, most stupid ideas and outcomes come from the officers lol.
The cogenitors were a third sex, not a third gender 👍
That is actually quite fair - thank you for this!
Uh oh... I was afraid you two would cross paths some day!
@@sarahscott5305
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@Number One
Newspeak?
@@AndrewD8Red 1984 reference I believe
Anyone that has ever been in the military knows that officers don't always make the smartest decisions.
Riker saved Worf & Wesley before he made the promise to Capt. Picard that he wouldn't use the Q powers.
And let a child die. Because of a promise. Its really screwed up
The real mistake Riker made, was SAVING Westley Crusher!
Also having a high brass meetings in a room with windows,... is kinda rather stupid... as I am sure the enemy will have cameras that can read their lips from miles away from some other building. Thus instantly knowing what they are talking about.
In JJ's world building, all important objects must be able to create lens flare.
Funny how due to tight TV budgets Starfleet HQ always looked...correct.
Spock checked the Enterprise computer and found no problems until he considered trying to play chess with it.
16:00 it was beardless Riker, he hadn't found his groove yet.
Q liked him better without the beard 🤣
Saving Wesley & Worf was due to Q's involvement the little girl was natural
THAT is the real reason I think Riker didn't save her.
@@MistahBryan once you start where do you stop?
I think you have enough material for at least a 50 dumbest Decisions.... or at a mnimum another 4 episodes like this one.... hint.. just look at Brannon Braga written episodes to find your material... plus any episodes with Commodores or Admirals in them (Kirk included - aka First movie...)..
14:55 Decker's shuttle was shown to have damaged the Planet Killer. That's what inspired Kirk to use the wrecked Constellation as a bomb.
Decker apparently didn't realize that the doomsday machine would switch its focus to a much more appetizing target like a planet. This very understandable since he had just met it and was under huge pressure to save his crew.
Yes, can't expect perfect decisions when someone's got imperfect data to work with especially under a high-pressure situation like that.
Also little choice. If the ship is to badly damaged, then that's just it.
Shouldn't someone like Olsen being an adrenalin junkie be weeded out before they would get in Star Fleet? Kirk superficially looks like one also, but he obviously is not since acts responsibly to succeed as a captain.
When Archer confronted Tripp about the incident, I was certain Archer was going to say, "...I've done a piss-poor job ..." but he didn't. lol
Could add Cyrano Jones selling tribbles… on a Klingon owned world… right after escaping a situation that shows very clearly Klingons hate tribbles
Perhaps he was using soft power to get back at them? Or is extremely stupid!
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Id is entitled "Top 10 Dumbest Mistakes by STARFLEET Officiers"; Cyrano isn't Sfleet....😎
And that's what the Prime Directive is, a pinky promise to let societies die if they're not warp capable. But I understand what you're saying, that one child's life was more important that saving Data's friend's society. I know they did end up saving the but Picard, Worf, and Riker were pretty addamit about following the prime directive.
They turned it into religious dogma that was not to be questioned, quite ironic and hypocritical given how Picard was putting so much effort into preventing one civilization developing religious thinking because of the Federation. Once you cross into the realm of saying something can't be questioned things are guaranteed to go wrong, and a directive that requires moral cowardice and callously condemning entire species to extinction because 'well they're too primitive' not only must be questioned but be condemned.
I'm putting up a fact based defense for Decker. Ship is heavily damaged life support is minimal not enough to sustain the surviving crew they would have died a slow death on the Constellation.
Always #1 for me: Being able to beam aboard an enemy ship through the shields the weapons can't get through.. and not beaming a photon torpedo bomb instead.... However I will hold that not following sterile protocols in an infection situation is right up there with it.
Voyager actually did that with a Borg sphere and teleported a torpedo on a timer into the ship.
Usually they can't beam through the shields. Until the writers need them to for the plot. I think TOS was the most consistent with not beaming through shields, surprisingly enough.
It gets worse
Think about the transporters. They can convert matter to energy and back again. They obviously can channel unbelievable amounts of energy. By Einstein's measure, a single gram of matter turned into energy is the equivalent of a 50 kiloton atomic explosion.
We've seen at least one episode when the Enterprise transported something off the ship, but did not reconvert it to matter -- "beam energy only". So it's possible to beam something out, but not turn it back into matter.
So why did the Voyager have an energy shortage, but still had working transporters? Why not take a lump of waste, or some junk, or pieces of dead Kazon, or matter swept up by the ship's Bussard collectors, "beam them up", but then just use use energy to run the ship for a month?
That's called the "how to take a half-working transporter and the Deck 5 crew quarters' head and make a total-conversion power plant and sewage reclaimation system" technique.
Now think of using a modified transporter to "beam up" the energy of an enemy's shields, using that energy to continue to power the transporter beam. When the shields are depleted and fall, you can now tear away huge chunks of the enemy ship's hull, using the power gained to keep firing. When nothing is left of the enemy, reconstitute enough of the remaining energy to make parts to repair your ship with. The remainder can be turned into dense matter, stored to power the ship if necessary using the same technique. Who needs antimatter, when you can do the same thing with less risk?
Honorable mention to: "I've requested a transfer to Security Division. I figure that will give me more opportunities for landing party duty, maybe some First Contacts, and look good on my record."
Too numerous to mention but every time a Star Fleet officer experienced or witnessed some alarming symptom or phenomena and, when questioned, answers with “I’m fine, everything is fine.” Life threatening chaos invariably follows.
What if you did report every alarming symptom or phenomena? You end up being maligned as a hypochondriac, just ask Reg Barclay. Instead, "I can't be getting sick," is the first thing we tend to say when we get the sniffles. "Just ignore it and it'll hopefully go away."
Starfleet tends to be kinda trash in tactics. I blame the “we’re totally not military, gais!” attitude of early TNG.
And of course, designing shuttles that are not airfoil lifting bodies is something I will always call out. Depending completely on super-whammy-dyne sci-fi tech to keep your atmospheric craft from dropping like the brick it looks like is supremely arrogant and just _asking_ the Demon Murphy to come kick you in the butt. And he does, in several episodes across the series.
at #9 when people talk about how they think Marcus was involved with the attack in that scene just cause he survived it don't really take into account the fact he survived was cause he got lucky he came close to dying along with everyone cause they all were caught off guard
Although he might not count as a starfleet officer clearly the dumbest decision is the security guard who stood with his back to the elevator when Van Gelder was going to come up. Where did he think he would come from?
How about the hazmat suit that is open enough under the hood to scratch his nose in the first place.
Ah, ptobably dut to the 'Zeroth ' General Order,
"0.1 :Any compromise between economics and credibility is to be resolved in favor of the production budget "
Of course, 0.2 , the
o0ps...hit the worng button...my bad. Anyways...it's the "fight club" section, saying in a lot more words, that you don't talk about G.O. Zero. 😎
Decisions is misspelled as "descisions" @0:25
and i feel like there might be some intentional silliness happening with that.
I think it was assumed the USS Constellation's life support was not up to supporting them all.
Also... For the Admiral's Conference, they have shields and forcefields but that room is unshielded... Why?
Because it was an inside job to have Khan disable them or that the federation really thought no one is going to attack San Francisco directly. Which only shows how vulnerable earth really is without a starfleet presence there.
So the movie can happen.
Sorry for Decker hell NO yeah he got his ass kicked but he decided to beam down his entire crew to a planet with a planet killer on the lose. Didn't he the planet killer was eating plants and he thought it was a good idea instead of running away to bemis entire crew down to a planet then the planet killer wipe them out for its dinner
Also, kudos to Spock for challangeing a 23rd century Computer in chess.
Kudos to Spock for *programming* a 23rd century computer in chess! Advanced strategies and all. It was easier than VR Kal-toh, to be sure, but kudos nonetheless.
SPOCKFISH! If someone doesn't make a 3D Chess engine called spockfish, I will learn the skills and do it myself. It has to happen.
Why were Commodores Stocker and Stone wearing red? Commodore is a command division; hence, they should be wearing gold.
We've seen Admirals on TNG and DS9 wearing gold uniforms.
@SciFiDude 79 I didn't say commodore was a division, I said command was a division.
@@dan1216 errrrr... Think you did say "Commodore is a command division"
Dumbest decision Seán made before filming this video? Wearing a shirt 😏
You can add on Rick Berman sacking Ron Jones for doing his job too well
Wouldn't Starfleet HQ have a force field around key point like a high security briefing room? That would make sense..... Right?? O well... Movies. HA! Joe did not kill himself with a butter knife.He killed himself with a table knife.
I think Landry is the only character to be exactly identical to her Mirror counterpart.
Dead on arrival!!!!
Re - The Cogenitor
Was it a dumb decision? Really? It was certainly tragic, or rather it ended in tragedy, but this tragedy may have been exactly what it takes for their society to have changed, such that Cogenitors may have finally been treated as equals. It usually takes a tragedy for a society to change its practices, so Tucker may have made a fortuitously, serendipitous decision and not at all a 'dumb decision.'
I guess you missed the point about not all cultures need to conform to human values.
TOS really went in for that “Commodore” rank, didn’t they…
'Cause it was an actual rank until 1983. All those Admirals that gave direct orders to Picard later on would have actually been a Commodore until then.
And every one and arrogant idiot.
Decker didn't know it was a planet killer until it killed the planet his crew was on. Duh!
Not sure who, but captain and Ben Sisko USS Saratoga for thinking it was ok to bring civilians including children along when fighting the Borg cube at Wolf 359.
Michael Burnham deciding to murder her captain for the lulz and starting a war in the process doesn't make the list?
No, because she is Space Jesus. She gets a pass.
Micheal Burnham is a literal current year character even Mariner from Lower Decks is a far better Burham than Burham
I laughed so LOUD during the description of Mat Decker's decision- that my wife came in to find out the reason for the outburst. I replayed it for her. "Ah." she said. Love that Lady!
(FOR THE RECORD: my ABSOLUTE FAVORITE moment in Start Trek: Decker tells Kirk he beamed the crew to the 3rd planet. It is here where Kirk reminds Decker that, " there IS no 3rd planet!". Decker- breaking down into hysteria- "DON'T you think I KNOW THAT?!?! There WAS one - But Not ANY MORE!!!"
God Bless Willian Windom!!!
I am gonna go watch it again now...)
Greatest guest spot ever
14:15 William Windom played Commodore Decker with so much heart and passion that I believe that he is probably one of the best guest stars who *ever* appeared on TOS. I wanted to cry for him. His character was so tragic that his death was almost a relief.
There seem to be two main breeds of Starfleet officer above the rank of captain: dumb, or crazy.
I watched Pegasus in honour of Captain Picard Day recently and remarked that it was a good thing that ship captains had a good amount of autonomy, or the galaxy would be mildly screwed.
MILDLY?!? Anyway, I think this indicates an even stupider aspect of Starfleet; it's obvious that promotion above the rank of captain is a highly politicized process.
Kirk served previously with Finney aboard the Republic, not the Intrepid
Honestly... I would have said "#10... Anything having to do with Star Trek Discovery. 'Nuff said."
for Marcus' Meeting; Khan wouldve probably manipulated him into setting it all up, while Khan helped build the new ship. Then getting Marcus mind twisted up in paranoia, used his enhanced intellect to make a blind spot in Marcus' thinking.
He's NOT Khan. No change to the timeline takes an Indian Sikh and turns him into a British white guy.
How about Riker firing on the Tanarian ship in the episode, Darmok? Yes, it ended well, but he could easily have started a war with a people the Federation COULDN'T TALK TO!
Doocy, at the press conference, trying to make sense of a spokesperson's reply
😎 ( :single digit version of the xub scout salute)
I can't see arrogance in anything that Trip did. He was being friendly to a person who was obviously extremely introverted. He treated the cogenitor as an equal. That is not a dumb decision. It was a tragic decision.
That is something I always thought about. The prime directive is so incredibly one-sided. Ok, Starfleet shouldnt interfere with a species' cultural development. That is alright. But Starfleet is always the one that must accomodate for a more stricter, immoral society. Why aren't THEY more wary and careful of exposing their oppressed people to the egalitarian, extremely accepting Starfleet? It sounds to me like the wiser decision wouldve been to not even bring the progenitor aboard.
The planet killer episode really fits a Lovecraftian theme, IMO. I loved it, but in a series with so many gods getting their butts kicked by humans, because... moxie, it really could never gibe well and all but demands criticism.