i have owned a vangard in 300 wby mag for about 25 years started reloading due to this gun ,,mine seems to like the 180 grain area best as for grouping if the barrel is hot @1.5 at 100y,,,if i let the barrel cool a bit i can get much tighter groups even a few all three in a single ragged hole. As for firing unknown reloads just don't
The first thing that I would have done is try to find out thru the place you bought it from just who exactly sold the gun and get in contact with them and see what I could find out. My guess is that dad died and a family member ditched all his stuff.
Yes reuse what you can and measure bullet diameter. If it doesn't measure right don't use it but still keep it till you figure out what is really for .
Great video. Glad shooting those reloads did not end in disaster. I have been reloading for 45 years and according to my logbooks, I have reloaded over 400,000 rounds in 23 different cartridges without ever having a problem. But i would NEVER shoot reloads from someone that i did not know and trust.
@WHOTEEWHO Not really. Many of the reloads were 38 spc, 9mm, 40 sw, 45 acp and 223. My wife, kids, brothers, and nephews all like to shoot. We have family get together where going through a couple of hundred rounds each is normal.
@@scottwinkle5503you have a fully automated press or something? Lol. I have a friend who owns a company that manufacturers 9mm and he hasn't loaded half that many in his first 3 years of business (granted hes focussed on building the client base first)
One of your reloads musta went piff... or Whoooooomp! At least when I reload I know if I blow my face off its all my own doing. I dont even let my friends shoot my reloads... or is it that they dont want to shoot my reloads... or is it because i dont have friends? 😢
@MyHuntingJournal It sounds like a lot of rounds, but when you divide it over the 45 years it is not that many per year. I have a Dillon 550b and a Hornady lnl AP with a case feeder so it is not difficult to load 250+ rounds per hour. Also, since my family members shoot the ammo they help buy the components. I actually enjoy the process of reloading. It beats the heck out of watching TV, lol.
I have only ever shot reloads from someone I knew personally and would trust with my life. He taught me a lot about shooting and hunting. He was like a second father to me. Shooting reloads from someone I didn't know would scare me.
I had an accident with oversized brass being stuck in the chamber of an automatic. The extractor couldn’t unload the round all the way, hit the slide on the end and boom 💥 my bloody hand and hearing hurt. 😢Idiot reloaded it but didn’t resize it. I wouldn’t removed the firing pin if I had been thinking slower 😂
Smart move. I have reloaded for about 30 years, and I am usually very incredibly careful. However, I loaded some ammo for a friend once, and on the last batch, I somehow wound up screwing up and overcharging it. Luckily, no one got hurt as his pistol launched a giant fireball downrange and the muzzle wound up almost vertical. He looked at me and said, you know there's no such thing as +P .357 magnum!
Right on! I NEVER shoot somebody else's reloads, & I also NEVER give or sell mine to somebody else. IF somebody asks me to load ammo for them, my answer is always "NO, but you can go buy your own componants & use my equipment & I will watch you."
if you have reloads that YOU didn't reload and are thinking about using them, pull up a chair at a table with the reloads and a cold non-alcohol drink. just sit a while looking at the reloads and enjoy your beverage.....and think about all that you know about reloads. and see how long it takes for sweat to form on your brow.
I still have a manlicher 6.5 mouser. It's as accurate (for me) as my modern savage BA 110T 6.5 Creedmoor at any given range the group almost identically.😂
As a reloader for many years, I will say this…typically, if someone has a cartridge that you can’t buy just anywhere (ie 6.5-300) you would think they should know what they are doing. But you never know
@@peterg1448 amen to that. Whether they're in boxes, bags, whatever, every round I have is sorted by powder, charge weight, bullet, CBTO, and sometimes primer if I'm wanting to do a comparison (for 55 gr. Fmj range blasting ammo, not so much on primers).
I been reloading for 52 years? I cast my own bullets from 22 caliber upto 45 caliber and including 6mm :5 caliber 30 caliber 35 caliber both pistol and rifle caliber I use linatype or printers lead and tin as hardners? It’s been more fun than just reloading
Back in the mid 60's, I got set up with an FFL, and while I was at it, I added a manufacturers license ! I thought I would reload and sell ammo. A lawyer friend told me I better get some good insurance, so I thought why not .Boy,!!!!was I surprised ! That kind of insurance would have cost me the equivalent per month as my house payment ! Needless to say, I've NEVER even loaned any of my own reloads to anyone. Hey fella,, you make interesting videos !!!
Back in the 80’s I used to go to a local small store that only sold reloaded ammo. Imagine that today.🤣🤣🤣🤣 Right before he closed up shop and was getting rid of his inventory he mentioned to me that insurance laws were kicking in and the cost was prohibitive. I mostly just got cast 45acp ammo and occasionally 44 special. I miss that place… shooting back then was dirt cheap. Now I just cast and reload my own ammo.👍🥃
Thanks for posting up the real results, even when you are disappointed with them. Not every rifle is under 1MOA no matter what ammo goes in it, I would hazard that at least half the rifles out in America will not shoot 1 MOA no matter the ammo or bench rest.
I've lived by the Golden Rule: "If in doubt, throw it OUT!" This has served me and my critters very well in all things food, water (Source), clothing/equipment, and definitely regarding ammunition! Dangerous things always find me choosing caution over curiosity. Great video, and outstanding advice/perspective(s)!
Part of your problem is your sled is bouncing around and makes it hard to really get back on true. You need to load the sled down with a bunch of lead shot bags. It is called a lead sled after all lol. That will help alot. When you get time contact the previous owner and ask him when the gun liked the best.
I had the same thought about the lead sled. I own one, but prefer my sand bags. My sled hangs out at my buddy's house now. I know where to find it if I need it.
The 6.5-300 is basically the hopped up Weatherby version of the .264 Winchester Magnum. It's got about a 200 fps advantage over the .264. When I was a kid my dad had a .264 and it was a shooting SOB!
I've got a Savage chambered in .264WM, thems are some spicy bois! My reloads are pushing a 140gr Hornady SST at 3200 FPS, drops elk at 400 yards like flipping a light switch. .264WM is a terribly underrated cartridge, it's one of the flattest, hardest hitting guns I own. I can't think of a reason to want something that shoots any faster, 140 grains at 3200 FPS is insane...
If the brass ejects normal then its ok. Check the brass for flatened primer, splits or cracked brass which is a sign of high pressure. Appeared the brass came out easy, no problems. Weatherby says it all 👍👍
I use the same chronograph, set it about 12 feet from the muzzle, pull the bolt and make sure while looking thru the barrel at your target from the action end of course, that your line of sight thru the barren is going thru the "window" created by the steel rods that the light shields mount on. I do this during load work up at100 yards, allows me to document velocities and SD and ES numbers in relationship to the groups. Helps to find that perfect balance of speed and accuracy with low deviation numbers. Been doing it for years, havent blown up the chrony yet! Great video! I also would have been like your friends...if you dont know who made the ammo and trust them with your life, dont shoot it! Glad it worked out for you, but i have seen revolvers turn into grenades when people dont follow safe loading practices.
The only people that need to worry about barrel burn out are those shooting multiple boxes of ammo at the range. That is a hunting rifle and it should never be an issue .
@@alexmunn5321 That's only true if you are the typical, buy one box per year type. I shot out my 26 Nosler Xbolt in two years . Some people like to shoot their guns.
As a reloading rule never fire someone else’s reloads. That said you got a sub MOA group! Once you reload for this Hootey you are going to have one hell of a long range deer rifle! Thanks for sharing! 🙏
Double check the action screws. Even if they're tight you might have a bedding problem. Also, cloudy days help those chronographs. It's the bright sunny days that makes them require the sun shield over the sensors and I noticed you only have one over the close sensor. It should have an identical one over the back sensor too.
Just a general rule of thumb, not necessarily for you, but for everyone who reads this comment. The only reloads you should ever trust are your own. It doesn't matter if it's from someone you know and trust with your life. Reloads can be dangerous, especially with high pressure rounds, and the worst part, your going to be hard pressed to be able to sue some random person who bought your reloads from compared to a actual ammunition manufacturer, who can actually pay off your medical expenses/funeral. Not only can you be injured or killed, but if it was a friend or relative who made those reloads, it will forever be on their conscious. TBH, I don't even recommend buying ammo from any company other than big name brands unless they are reputable and well known, and this is quite honestly, because if you need to sue for medical costs or such, Winchester won't go bankrupt, but some guy in a shed at 2am churning out .308 definitely can't. In general, other's reloads can be less reliable, less accurate, more dangerous, and not any cheaper than reputable brands. Why buy them then? To save a few cents per round? The only time you should ever buy reloads are if its incredibly cheap, and the only thing you should do with them is take em apart, inspect the brass, and reload them yourself. You can use the same powder if you are sure its the right kind, but I would rather just use my own powder. Seriously, you never know what kind of powder it is, how stable it is, and how old it is. Too many people have been injured or killed from pistol powder spiked rifle rounds, or rifle rounds packed with far too much powder.
I was shooting factory Barnual 243. It seemed a little spicy and I wasn't paying attention for overpressure signs, because it was commercial factory ammo. Finally split a case and scored the chamber in my new Tikka.
Where did the case split at? If in the neck it could of been overly generous chamber dimensions (for that ammo) or just weak brass/steel in the cartridge. I've had some crappy brass split in the neck over the years but weren't inherently "hot" loaded rounds. Brass reused too many times will also do that, but this was new ammo you mentioned, so it shouldn't have been that.
@@Freezer003 Barnaul is steel cased Russian ammo. It's generally considered reasonable quality for what it is. With the current world situation it's a little rare to see now.
@@fishcars8078 It split about 1" long lengthwise right in the middle of the steel casing. It wasn't at the neck or head. Afterwards I looked at the other spent cartridges and the primers were badly flattened. The ammo was trying to tell me, I just failed to listen. That was my lesson.
I've been reloading since 1966 and blew the bolt of my 1901 Krag with one round out if 50 that I double charged in an over sight. Chronograph said that it was going 3570 fps, the other 49 were going about 1800 fps. That taught me a $$$ lesson .
I also was watching those bullets and I can say those suckers were really zipping along (Technical Term for FAB) sure was glad I was wearing my Tin hat to get those precise FPS as they zipped down range.
If you have a case comparator measure one of the fired cases then the loaded cases to see how far the shoulders got pushed back during the reloading process. You may want to consider getting a belted magnum collet sizing die by Larry Willis. I believe you can come up with a lot better handloads.
Most people are pretty reasonable with reloading, maybe not precision, but safe. There are however those few that have no idea what they're doing and can end up blowing your face off. You probably have better than a 90% chance of it being fine... but you never know. It was definitely good that you checked OAL to get an idea first.
You changed barrel harmonics from what the reloads were originally done for by putting your can on it. You'll need to redevelop your loads to the set up you intend to shoot. If you're not seeing pressure signs like flattened or cratered primers, heavy bolt lift, stuck cases or split cases they are fine to shoot. Get yourself the new Garmin chronograph. It's much better than what you are using and worth the investment. There is no way you're getting 4400 fps without blowing up your cases.
There was one time it looked like the bolt was a little harder turning. That's when I would've started to get nervous to keep going. Pull em apart and use the components -powder if you have doubts.
Weatherby and their weird proprietary calibers. 🤪 A few of them are pretty doggone good, but most of them are made in the land of misfit toys. Weatherbys are like trophy wives - absolutely beautiful and make you feel all squishy inside, but at the end of the day, you just know that to keep and operate one, you're going to need a co-signer. 😉
At least they've stuck around for the long haul? Remember Lazzeroni and their proprietary calibers? They were gonna be the new hotness according to the old gun rags back in the 90s.
About 20 years ago I owned a Weatherby Vanguard in .30 06. Loved that rifle. Mysteriously disappeared from my father-in-law’s house when I got divorced.
Should have reported it stolen, along with the serial number. That way, if/when it turned up, the thief might just end up buying a lawyer a new car on his own nickel.
If you don’t have one already get yourself a bullet puller. Use it to disassemble the cartridges. Trash the powder, and I personally would deprime the brass and start with all “known” components. I wouldn’t even use the primers and I would measure the brass to verify the length is within specs. I personally would never trust unknown handloads. Good luck and be safe!
BTW if that chrono uses eddy currents, then all those stacked up body armors sitting next to it are interfering with it's readings: Lots of steel that is very susceptible to becoming magnetized. Eddy Current are a very faint alternating magnetic field FYI - the metal in the bullet interferes with the field, length of interference determines speed.
thats an optical type it looks for the shadow of what passes over the sensers and counts the time it takes to cross the known distance between the 2 sensers the sky screens above them help disperse the light when outdoors so that direct sunlight does not over power the sensers too much
I took 3 boxes of Hornady Whitetail hunting in South Africa, they had the same batch number. All three boxes had problems with the propellant, one round fell on the floor 40yds in front of the springbok I'd aimed at. Luckily my mate had some spare ammo and I could carry on hunting. Never used Whitetail since.
I always used reloads my father made up for our 30-06's. He always full length resized the brass. When I started reloading I only resized the necks. Only use those rounds in my rifle. Good video....
Buy a bullet puller. You will need it for the ammo you load too. If your testing different powder charges sooner or later you will load them too hot. Pull the bullets and reload them.
Personally, the only handloadsI have ever shot that weren't my own, were those loaded by my sons while I was teaching them to reload. I have been reloading for well over 2 decades and learned from my father who taught me, and of course, he and I taught my 4 sons how to.
Thanks for another day at The world famous Heavy Metal Range WTW sure knows how to cool a firearm quickly by opening the bolt, setting the gun upright, so the hot air traveling up the barrel draws much cooler air in the Breach and up the barrel cooling it to maximum efficiency. Wa Yea
My dad has been reloading for about 50 years and I have been reloading for about 25. We have never had a catastrophic failure. I know there have been some crazy reloading but most often I wouldn't be afraid to shoot rounds that come with a gun I am buying. If you are hesitant, just knock the bullets out and keep everything but the powder.
My nephew had a vanguard in 22-250 and we could not get it to shoot at all with different ammo. It did not have a free floated barrel and we guess that may have been the reason. Beautiful gun though. Anyways, he sold it not long after.
Of course C.O.L. really only matters to fit iin the magazine. I try to load my bullets to .020 off the rifling of my PRS rifle. and they are usually slightly longer than the recommended C.O.L. and I single load on a mag sled.
The shadow of the bullet has to pass directly over the sensors in order to get accurate readings with that type of chronograph . Light coming in from the side is bad news and leads t to frustrating readings . Hope this helps . Cheers Adam
Been reloading for over 30 years. I would pull the heads, dump the powder and de-prime. Resize that brass, (weigh) the bullets to verify what you have, then load with new primer and powder. DO NOT fire reloaded ammo from an unknown source!
I absolutely love my 6.5-300's. I load my own ammo for them using the 127gr. Barnes LRX , Wby. Brass, Federal Gold Metal Match lg. mag. rifle primers, and Hodgdon US 869. Very efficient freezer filling machine.💯
That brass is worth a small fortune. Use a Hornady collet bullet puller with appropriate collet. Dump the powder in the flower garden as it’s good fertilizer. Reload working up from loading manual as usual. Best of my knowledge that cartridge isn’t just the fastest 6.5…..it’s simply the fastest of all calibers. Barrel life is probably about 800 shots and who knows how much it’s been shot already. I know the theory behind using a lead sled, but accuracy is thrown off with them. This video shows how much that sled moves upon firing. Sell that thing for scrap metal! Nice rifle though. I’d love that in a 6.5-284 Norma or 7PRC.
"Every single expert I asked said, 'absolutely NOT', so we're going to go ahead and give it a try". That's the shooters version of, "Here, hold my beer..."
Whoteewho give that thing a good scrub down to bare metal.The throat’s carbon up big time on those . Labradors are dirt cheap used since the new Garmin is out . I think you need one . Thanks for all you do
Since you have the dies, pull the bullets, dump the powder(it makes decent fertilizer), and charge with your own powder. Whomever contacted you claiming to be the prior owner, might provide insight into the loads - primer, actual bullet description, etc. Good luck.
So far seems like they knew what they were doing to me atleast 1 one thousandth of inch which in my eyes are close enough because that's just the length I'd more worried about diameter and weight
@@NelsonZAPTMolder stuff wouldn’t worry about, but there are so many chemical treatments on modern powders to adjust burn rate that who knows what that stuff would do to your plants. The modern treated powders work amazing but it does raise other questions.
Years ago I was shooting my .357 revolver with a friend who also had a .357. He had bought some reloads from the local gun store, they came in a zip lock bag. After shooting a few I couldn’t seem to hit anything. I looked down the barrel and no rifling - the grooves were filled with soft lead. When I got home and cleaned the barrel with brass brushes I had a pile of lead that came out of the barrel, almost enough to mold another bullet.
Curious.... did u leave the ammo on the table in the sun while the gun cooled? That can impact pressure and ballistics and could explain the 1.8 cold vs .92 warm. Cold barrel warm ammo vs warm barrel warm ammo. And u should have chrono'd every shot
I was reloading 357 for a 686-6. I followed the reloading from the bullet manufacturer EXACTLY. I was loading by volume but also checking each one by weight (it was a new to me powder HP-38). I loaded to the low and up to the max in small increments (it wasnt a big spread). The LOW one was really hot. Like not good. I went back home. Checked the load data against all the common load data sources... the LOW was EQUAL OR HIGHER than the HIGH than the amount listed on the bullet manufacturer page. So you can even make no mistakes and still get a surprise.
If you know the powder used in the reload then you can disassemble a few, measure the load to published data, and if it is within spec I'd try a few. Otherwise, open them all, dump the powder on the lawn, neck size, and add new powder and the bullets yourself.
Yes, it's interesting, but I'd have to check out a few things before I would buy one my self. And yes, be very aware of loads being too hot from a factory too!
I am just starting your video and my eyes and face just cringed when I realized what you were about to do. I have been reloading for 53 years… and if I did not load it… I pull the bullets and start over.
If you're at a party with strangers would you trust what they rolled up? Nope, smoke your own rolled treats!!! Same story bro! Only trust what you rolled yourself. Grass or brass, it's all the same!
I reload for accuracy for all of my guns except rim fire. I totally agree with your friends about reloading. That said, since you have the dies, and friends who reload, take the reloads that you have, knock them apart, and reassemble them with powder that you are happy with.
I bought 100rds of Federal Fusion 140gr 270, new in the box. they clame 3000f/sec. This they did, but they also produced far too much heat. Granted it was a hot day (over 100°), but it didn't take long before this ammo started popping out the primers and over heated the barrel.
Maybe you already know this, but measuring overall length is unreliable due to differences between where the points on spitzer bullets will be. The best method is to use one of the tools (Hornady makes one, and Brownells sells one for multiple calibers that I have) that measure to the ogive.
Yes, never fire anybody else’s reloads because they may have used the wrong powder. I made that mistake once never again.😊 very lucky I didn’t damage my gun lever action 3030 didn’t wanna open after I fired around. It was a super hot load. They use the wrong powder by mistake.😊
Been running almost this exact same rig for about 4 years now in 6.5 Creed, been a solid 3/4 min gun with pretty much everything I shoot. Three position safety, sako extractor, fluted barrel, 2-stage trigger, stock is pretty much garbage but for under a 1k, one of the best hunting rifles you can buy.
I am sideways! haha never shoot someone elses loads.. you know why.... you can pull the bullets, def save the brass. you can weigh the powder if you wanna.
I was gifted a box of fifty .308 that 'someone' had reloaded.....never fired a single one! Just carefully took them apart and recycled the components. I don't hand load anyway so the components went to a very good friend who does. He was thrilled! I would never risk putting anything through any rifle that I didn't know was absolutely safe and within limits. Stay safe!
I had a thin barrel like that on a .308. Futzed with it for almost a year with different loads and scopes. After 4 shots the groups went all over the paper. Found out barrel was flexing. Got rid of the barrel for a heavier one and groups tightened right up.
I used to have a 6.5 STW, The rifle was phenomenally accurate for the first 300 rounds then it started showing signs of throat erosion . With the bearing surface of the 6.5 bullet and the higher velocities I wouldn’t expect the barrel to have a very long serviceable lifespan.
Great rifle, hopefully it works out for you, I'd be interested in you taking one round of ammo apart and checking as to what is actually in it, measure the bullet and powder weights, maybe you'll even be able to identify what powder is in it and figure out if everything is safe. All the comments telling you not to shoot/trust that reloaded ammo are from your followers like me who care about your family and you, please stay safe
No chance I'd shoot reloads unless they came from the two friends who I completely trust, or my father. Other than that I'd pull the bullets and start from primed brass, after I prepped the cases. It's just not worth KBing the rifle or possibly end up picking metal out of my face. I already have enough metal in me that doesn't belong there!
Reloads.. pull and use the powder as fertilizer then, resize (as it may have been neck sized) re-prime and reload. Only buy used hand loads if the cost is well below the component cost or VERY RARE.
I bought some reman ammo once during the planned Covid hysteria when ammo was scarce. Several primers failed with good strikes. Some were more powerful than others (I could easily hear the difference). Stopped after a few. Not blowing up my gun to save a few dollars.
WTW could be "blemished bullets" loaded. Which lots of companies sell. These can be from machine set up etc. Break those reloads down measure bullets diameter and lengths. Pitch the powder or use for something other than rifle rounds. I would break them down completely, measure brass, resize if ok and load with my components. I'm not gonna say anything about shooting unknown reloads. I didn't see any sticky rounds or hard bolt lift so my guess is bullets. 🤷🏻♂️
As long as the brass hasn’t been compromised… The fired brass will be formed to your chamber. That should help tighten up your groups providing that you find the right powder and bullet combination. Nice gun. Cool video.💪👍🥃
With the turrets: Windage; When some “ left”: turn “ away” from you. Elevation; I think of screwing/unscrewing a cap on a bottle.. (right goes down, left the cap lifts up. Easier to explain in person though.. 😅
I reloaded since my teens, but a couple of years ago caught myself using bullseye for my 218 bee. Forget the charge weight, but needless to say it would have wreaked havoc on my 1894 marlin. Thankfully noticed before leaving the bench. My mind just isn’t what it was 75 years ago. Quit reloading and sold all my equipment and supplies, just not safe for me anymore. Got to know your limits!
6.5-300 is one of those chambers that took the 6.5 to the extreme in velocity but is a barrel burner so this rifle is a nice one but should scope the barrel as they don't last long.
I have a Vanguard First Lite in 6.5x300, it would not group factory Weatherby ammo under 2.5 inches, not happy, I was told to contact Hendershots custom ammo in Maryland, after talking to him he loaded me some of his ammo, 143 ELD X's group 3/4 inch. I only use his ammo now for that rifle.
I have the Meat Eater special edition that Sportsman Warehouse sells. It doesn’t like the factory Ammo either. I had it bedded in a Boyd’s stock but haven’t had the opportunity to try it out again. Hopefully it will do better than the junk plastic stock that Howa puts them in. I have the 127 grain Barnes and the 130 grain Scirroco factory ammunition
The best way for me to remember which direction to adjust a scope is to think of the turret like a screw. Tighten it and it (The Bullet) moves down, loosen it for up. Same for left and right.
About 40 years ago I was at a range where a guy used some .30-06 ammo he bought at a gun show in his Browning Safari, (FN action). 1st two rounds were fine, then BOOM! The stock shattered and the fellow had shards all over hus face. Luckily, he was wearing glasses and they were mangled, but his eyes were ok. Ambulance was there in 5 minutes, but he was in a lot of pain. I've never seen a rifle in so many pieces, or a face that looked like a porcupine before. I NEVER shoot anybody's reloads but mine!
26" barrel. I have .22 RF rifles with 28" barrels. I have a 308 Rimington 700 BDL with 30" barrel. I have .223s with 30" barrels and my Savage M12 carrying a barrel that from a closed bolt that is 32" to the muzzle. This barrel is 1 1/4 in diameter. I have seen longer barrels on the line at large F-Class matches in F-Open class.
To remember up and down just remember it'd like a screw, righty tighty equals down and lefty loosey is up.. on horizontal its righty tighty is left and lefty loosey is right.
The title "Shouldn't have shot - and neither should you" is really appropriate. Having said that, I understand why - $5/rd is really expensive. STILL, the rule of thumb is to never shoot ammo that you don't fully know the provenance of. All uncertain ammo should have the bullets pulled and the powder discarded. Personally, I don't worry about the primers, but if you fully follow safety guidelines, even the primers should be wasted. Case and bullet ok for reloading - by the shooter - on their own equipment. Alternatively, you can get ammo from a reloader who went to the trouble of getting a license to sell reloads. So, again, title appropriate. 👍 The variable grouping makes me think the rounds are a bit hot, but solid copper bullets won't group consistently if guilding jacketed bullets have been shot through the gun. Couldn't tell if that's what they were, but it's something to keep in mind. I will say that the sole one inch group shows a lot of promise for the rifle, but the long freebore of Weatherby chamberings will typically mean that one inch is the best to expect.
My experience reloading for my 300 WBY. I was never able to better WBY ammo for velocity and accuracy. WBY 160 gr ammo has shot half inch at 200 yards with velocity within 100 fps of advertised.
Never shoot reloads from someone you don't trust with your life. Everything outside the case may measure up correct but you have no idea what is inside. Brand of powder, grains of powder, primer size. Just not worth it. Take the bullets apart and use the brass and if you know the bullet and weight then you can use it. Never re-use anything that goes bang being powder and primers.
Never had a Weatherby but I did have a .300 rum custom built back in 2003 has a fluted Sendero barrel with a muzzle brake. That gun put a lot of meat on the table still have it haven't shot it in a long time. The last one I took was an 11 point in 2017 but I used a single shot 45/70.
Typically chronographs need two screens: One detects the bullet and starts a timer then the second screen detects the bullet some distance away to stops the timer. The time is known as is the distance between the screens. From that it calculates the feet per second (velocity). LDBennett
Ok Adam it’s simple pull the bullets dump out the powder spread it in your garden save the bullets and load your own. I’m thinking Retumbo or H4831 just to name two powders that should work well in that high volume case. Remember barrel life is very short on those way over bored calibers.
Considering the case volume of a 300wby, what could possibly go wrong if you loaded a really fast burning powder in a cartridge vs the slow burning powder which its recommended for? Yes, this ammo is expensive ($75-$120) , but so is an ER visit . Unlike an automobile, we dont come with replacement parts available at reasonable prices which are of the same quality or better than the original.
How much and what powder in those loads, Noted the bullet but not the powder and primer. My guess a Federal 215 Magnum. Not knowing the powder and the amounts would make the ammo suspect in my book. Its a hunting rifle so it's basically check zero and go hunt. I had a 300 WM in a German MK V that I bought back in 1972. I hunted with it one season, shot one bull moose with it and it became a safe queen till I paired down my collection some years back. I have a 7mm Weatherby Mag, MK V in my opinion the best Weatherby Cartridge of the lot. That one would put four 139 gr factory loads into 1.2 inches @ 200 yards. Four shots. Plenty accurate for big game hunting. The only issue I had with it, Damn thing weight out near 10 lbs. I shot a lot of game with it. Once I got the loads I wanted. As long as the brass extracts ok you should be fine. But my gut tells me, just pull the bullets dump the powder and primer and start over, not knowing how many times those cases have been loaded makes them suspect too.
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i have owned a vangard in 300 wby mag for about 25 years started reloading due to this gun ,,mine seems to like the 180 grain area best as for grouping if the barrel is hot @1.5 at 100y,,,if i let the barrel cool a bit i can get much tighter groups even a few all three in a single ragged hole. As for firing unknown reloads just don't
The first thing that I would have done is try to find out thru the place you bought it from just who exactly sold the gun and get in contact with them and see what I could find out. My guess is that dad died and a family member ditched all his stuff.
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Don't trash the ammo!!!! Take them apart and trash the powder. Save the brass, primers, and bullets. Good luck and stay safe!!! 😉😉😉
Save the powder for fun stuff 😂
Agree. That brass is gold.
Yes reuse what you can and measure bullet diameter. If it doesn't measure right don't use it but still keep it till you figure out what is really for .
Exactly this👆
I mean you wont even know what primer they have
Great video. Glad shooting those reloads did not end in disaster. I have been reloading for 45 years and according to my logbooks, I have reloaded over 400,000 rounds in 23 different cartridges without ever having a problem. But i would NEVER shoot reloads from someone that i did not know and trust.
Wow that is a lot
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Not really. Many of the reloads were 38 spc, 9mm, 40 sw, 45 acp and 223. My wife, kids, brothers, and nephews all like to shoot. We have family get together where going through a couple of hundred rounds each is normal.
@@scottwinkle5503you have a fully automated press or something? Lol. I have a friend who owns a company that manufacturers 9mm and he hasn't loaded half that many in his first 3 years of business (granted hes focussed on building the client base first)
One of your reloads musta went piff... or Whoooooomp! At least when I reload I know if I blow my face off its all my own doing. I dont even let my friends shoot my reloads... or is it that they dont want to shoot my reloads... or is it because i dont have friends? 😢
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It sounds like a lot of rounds, but when you divide it over the 45 years it is not that many per year. I have a Dillon 550b and a Hornady lnl AP with a case feeder so it is not difficult to load 250+ rounds per hour. Also, since my family members shoot the ammo they help buy the components. I actually enjoy the process of reloading. It beats the heck out of watching TV, lol.
I have only ever shot reloads from someone I knew personally and would trust with my life. He taught me a lot about shooting and hunting. He was like a second father to me. Shooting reloads from someone I didn't know would scare me.
I had an accident with oversized brass being stuck in the chamber of an automatic. The extractor couldn’t unload the round all the way, hit the slide on the end and boom 💥 my bloody hand and hearing hurt. 😢Idiot reloaded it but didn’t resize it. I wouldn’t removed the firing pin if I had been thinking slower 😂
Smart move. I have reloaded for about 30 years, and I am usually very incredibly careful. However, I loaded some ammo for a friend once, and on the last batch, I somehow wound up screwing up and overcharging it. Luckily, no one got hurt as his pistol launched a giant fireball downrange and the muzzle wound up almost vertical. He looked at me and said, you know there's no such thing as +P .357 magnum!
Right on! I NEVER shoot somebody else's reloads, & I also NEVER give or sell mine to somebody else. IF somebody asks me to load ammo for them, my answer is always "NO, but you can go buy your own componants & use my equipment & I will watch you."
if you have reloads that YOU didn't reload and are thinking about using them, pull up a chair at a table with the reloads and a cold non-alcohol drink. just sit a while looking at the
reloads and enjoy your beverage.....and think about all that you know about reloads. and see how long it takes for sweat to form on your brow.
They are making so many 6.5 variations these days... they will eventually find out the old 6.5x55 swedish mouser got it right the first time. 😂
This is a fact. Never owned one, but loaded for and shot one many times. It's a classic.
Just like how the 7.65x53mm got the .30 cal right in the same year as 6.5x55mm
6.5 was good it's the technology behind the new case, bullet design, and powder
How does it compare with the 243 win?
I still have a manlicher 6.5 mouser. It's as accurate (for me) as my modern savage BA 110T 6.5 Creedmoor at any given range the group almost identically.😂
As a reloader for many years, I will say this…typically, if someone has a cartridge that you can’t buy just anywhere (ie 6.5-300) you would think they should know what they are doing. But you never know
As a fellow reloader, there ain't no way in hell I'm shooting someone else's concoctions. As you know, there's FAR too many variables to ignore.
all my reloads have all the load data on them so it is known just what is in them and how much
@@peterg1448 amen to that. Whether they're in boxes, bags, whatever, every round I have is sorted by powder, charge weight, bullet, CBTO, and sometimes primer if I'm wanting to do a comparison (for 55 gr. Fmj range blasting ammo, not so much on primers).
I been reloading for 52 years? I cast my own bullets from 22 caliber upto 45 caliber and including 6mm :5 caliber 30 caliber 35 caliber both pistol and rifle caliber I use linatype or printers lead and tin as hardners? It’s been more fun than just reloading
Now even wheel weights are hard to come by
Nothing bad has ever happened to a youtuber shooting mystery ammunition. Right?
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Well played bro.
At least no one from Kentucky at least.
Back in the mid 60's, I got set up with an FFL, and while I was at it, I added a manufacturers license ! I thought I would reload and sell ammo. A lawyer friend told me I better get some good insurance, so I thought why not .Boy,!!!!was I surprised ! That kind of insurance would have cost me the equivalent per month as my house payment ! Needless to say, I've NEVER even loaned any of my own reloads to anyone. Hey fella,, you make interesting videos !!!
Shewee. Thanks for watching
Back in the 80’s I used to go to a local small store that only sold reloaded ammo.
Imagine that today.🤣🤣🤣🤣
Right before he closed up shop and was getting rid of his inventory he mentioned to me that insurance laws were kicking in and the cost was prohibitive.
I mostly just got cast 45acp ammo and occasionally 44 special.
I miss that place… shooting back then was dirt cheap.
Now I just cast and reload my own ammo.👍🥃
Feedback like your's is priceless! Thank you.
Thanks for posting up the real results, even when you are disappointed with them. Not every rifle is under 1MOA no matter what ammo goes in it, I would hazard that at least half the rifles out in America will not shoot 1 MOA no matter the ammo or bench rest.
I've lived by the Golden Rule: "If in doubt, throw it OUT!" This has served me and my critters very well in all things food, water (Source), clothing/equipment, and definitely regarding ammunition!
Dangerous things always find me choosing caution over curiosity.
Great video, and outstanding advice/perspective(s)!
Part of your problem is your sled is bouncing around and makes it hard to really get back on true. You need to load the sled down with a bunch of lead shot bags. It is called a lead sled after all lol. That will help alot.
When you get time contact the previous owner and ask him when the gun liked the best.
I agree I have boxes of Lead wheel weights I use on the sled
I had the same thought about the lead sled. I own one, but prefer my sand bags. My sled hangs out at my buddy's house now. I know where to find it if I need it.
Just ditch the lead sled, altogether.
The 6.5-300 is basically the hopped up Weatherby version of the .264 Winchester Magnum. It's got about a 200 fps advantage over the .264. When I was a kid my dad had a .264 and it was a shooting SOB!
264…almost to fast to kill quick. 😂
I've got a Savage chambered in .264WM, thems are some spicy bois! My reloads are pushing a 140gr Hornady SST at 3200 FPS, drops elk at 400 yards like flipping a light switch. .264WM is a terribly underrated cartridge, it's one of the flattest, hardest hitting guns I own. I can't think of a reason to want something that shoots any faster, 140 grains at 3200 FPS is insane...
6.5 prc is a 264 win mag on paper
If the brass ejects normal then its ok. Check the brass for flatened primer, splits or cracked brass which is a sign of high pressure. Appeared the brass came out easy, no problems. Weatherby says it all 👍👍
I use the same chronograph, set it about 12 feet from the muzzle, pull the bolt and make sure while looking thru the barrel at your target from the action end of course, that your line of sight thru the barren is going thru the "window" created by the steel rods that the light shields mount on. I do this during load work up at100 yards, allows me to document velocities and SD and ES numbers in relationship to the groups. Helps to find that perfect balance of speed and accuracy with low deviation numbers. Been doing it for years, havent blown up the chrony yet! Great video! I also would have been like your friends...if you dont know who made the ammo and trust them with your life, dont shoot it! Glad it worked out for you, but i have seen revolvers turn into grenades when people dont follow safe loading practices.
That barrel wont last long at those speeds😂
_Prepare Ship...Prepare Ship for Ludicrous Speed_
The only people that need to worry about barrel burn out are those shooting multiple boxes of ammo at the range. That is a hunting rifle and it should never be an issue .
@@alexmunn5321 That's only true if you are the typical, buy one box per year type. I shot out my 26 Nosler Xbolt in two years . Some people like to shoot their guns.
Don’t shoot it allot. That barrel won’t last.
We've gone to plaid!
As a reloading rule never fire someone else’s reloads. That said you got a sub MOA group! Once you reload for this Hootey you are going to have one hell of a long range deer rifle! Thanks for sharing! 🙏
Double check the action screws.
Even if they're tight you might have a bedding problem.
Also, cloudy days help those chronographs. It's the bright sunny days that makes them require the sun shield over the sensors and I noticed you only have one over the close sensor. It should have an identical one over the back sensor too.
Just a general rule of thumb, not necessarily for you, but for everyone who reads this comment. The only reloads you should ever trust are your own. It doesn't matter if it's from someone you know and trust with your life. Reloads can be dangerous, especially with high pressure rounds, and the worst part, your going to be hard pressed to be able to sue some random person who bought your reloads from compared to a actual ammunition manufacturer, who can actually pay off your medical expenses/funeral. Not only can you be injured or killed, but if it was a friend or relative who made those reloads, it will forever be on their conscious. TBH, I don't even recommend buying ammo from any company other than big name brands unless they are reputable and well known, and this is quite honestly, because if you need to sue for medical costs or such, Winchester won't go bankrupt, but some guy in a shed at 2am churning out .308 definitely can't. In general, other's reloads can be less reliable, less accurate, more dangerous, and not any cheaper than reputable brands. Why buy them then? To save a few cents per round? The only time you should ever buy reloads are if its incredibly cheap, and the only thing you should do with them is take em apart, inspect the brass, and reload them yourself. You can use the same powder if you are sure its the right kind, but I would rather just use my own powder. Seriously, you never know what kind of powder it is, how stable it is, and how old it is. Too many people have been injured or killed from pistol powder spiked rifle rounds, or rifle rounds packed with far too much powder.
I was shooting factory Barnual 243. It seemed a little spicy and I wasn't paying attention for overpressure signs, because it was commercial factory ammo. Finally split a case and scored the chamber in my new Tikka.
Yikes
Was it Winchester ammo by chance?
Where did the case split at? If in the neck it could of been overly generous chamber dimensions (for that ammo) or just weak brass/steel in the cartridge. I've had some crappy brass split in the neck over the years but weren't inherently "hot" loaded rounds. Brass reused too many times will also do that, but this was new ammo you mentioned, so it shouldn't have been that.
@@Freezer003 Barnaul is steel cased Russian ammo. It's generally considered reasonable quality for what it is. With the current world situation it's a little rare to see now.
@@fishcars8078 It split about 1" long lengthwise right in the middle of the steel casing. It wasn't at the neck or head. Afterwards I looked at the other spent cartridges and the primers were badly flattened. The ammo was trying to tell me, I just failed to listen. That was my lesson.
I've been reloading since 1966 and blew the bolt of my 1901 Krag with one round out if 50 that I double charged in an over sight. Chronograph said that it was going 3570 fps, the other 49 were going about 1800 fps. That taught me a $$$ lesson .
When I was watching the bullets they looked like they were going over 4000 fps. But I wasn't wearing my glasses
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I couldn’t see the bullet but I sure felt that recoil!😂
I also was watching those bullets and I can say those suckers were really zipping along (Technical Term for FAB) sure was glad I was wearing my Tin hat to get those precise FPS as they zipped down range.
Bwahahahahaha🙄
If you have a case comparator measure one of the fired cases then the loaded cases to see how far the shoulders got pushed back during the reloading process. You may want to consider getting a belted magnum collet sizing die by Larry Willis. I believe you can come up with a lot better handloads.
Most people are pretty reasonable with reloading, maybe not precision, but safe. There are however those few that have no idea what they're doing and can end up blowing your face off. You probably have better than a 90% chance of it being fine... but you never know. It was definitely good that you checked OAL to get an idea first.
as long as its not that box you have been meaning to take apart because its too hot but haven't done yet
@@graybeard101 LOL yeah, not that one. Oops, did I use Red Dot instead of Retumbo? Shucks, well they both start with R...
If that was the case the guy probably wouldn't have pawned it
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Well said!
@@graybeard101 that stuff (a v. small qty of 45 Colt Ruger loads with way too much H110) is in a bowl on my workbench to be reprocessed.
You changed barrel harmonics from what the reloads were originally done for by putting your can on it. You'll need to redevelop your loads to the set up you intend to shoot. If you're not seeing pressure signs like flattened or cratered primers, heavy bolt lift, stuck cases or split cases they are fine to shoot. Get yourself the new Garmin chronograph. It's much better than what you are using and worth the investment. There is no way you're getting 4400 fps without blowing up your cases.
Word of friendly advise, learn to read brass for pressure signs . Primer cratering, flattened primers, etc.
that's first thing I thought, if you insist on shooting it at least look at the primer after the first shot, and if its hard to extract.
There was one time it looked like the bolt was a little harder turning. That's when I would've started to get nervous to keep going.
Pull em apart and use the components -powder if you have doubts.
@@matthewbeaver5026yea I saw that too. Way too hot for sure.
Weatherby and their weird proprietary calibers. 🤪 A few of them are pretty doggone good, but most of them are made in the land of misfit toys. Weatherbys are like trophy wives - absolutely beautiful and make you feel all squishy inside, but at the end of the day, you just know that to keep and operate one, you're going to need a co-signer. 😉
Soooo true!
At least they've stuck around for the long haul? Remember Lazzeroni and their proprietary calibers? They were gonna be the new hotness according to the old gun rags back in the 90s.
About 20 years ago I owned a Weatherby Vanguard in .30 06. Loved that rifle. Mysteriously disappeared from my father-in-law’s house when I got divorced.
Rule of thumb for all... remove any and all desired possessions from unsecured locations before splitting from "your mate for life"...
Should have reported it stolen, along with the serial number. That way, if/when it turned up, the thief might just end up buying a lawyer a new car on his own nickel.
If you don’t have one already get yourself a bullet puller. Use it to disassemble the cartridges. Trash the powder, and I personally would deprime the brass and start with all “known” components. I wouldn’t even use the primers and I would measure the brass to verify the length is within specs. I personally would never trust unknown handloads. Good luck and be safe!
BTW if that chrono uses eddy currents, then all those stacked up body armors sitting next to it are interfering with it's readings: Lots of steel that is very susceptible to becoming magnetized. Eddy Current are a very faint alternating magnetic field FYI - the metal in the bullet interferes with the field, length of interference determines speed.
Saw that in a Star Trek Episode
thats an optical type it looks for the shadow of what passes over the sensers and counts the time it takes to cross the known distance between the 2 sensers the sky screens above them help disperse the light when outdoors so that direct sunlight does not over power the sensers too much
I took 3 boxes of Hornady Whitetail hunting in South Africa, they had the same batch number. All three boxes had problems with the propellant, one round fell on the floor 40yds in front of the springbok I'd aimed at. Luckily my mate had some spare ammo and I could carry on hunting. Never used Whitetail since.
That's a gorgeous rifle, and a great choice for the optic.
I must agree with you KenBlack 💯, I would add this to my collection any day.
@@mikepoint4717I’ve got one in 308, you would not be disappointed. Incredibly smooth and a quality option.
I always used reloads my father made up for our
30-06's. He always full length resized the brass.
When I started reloading I only resized the necks.
Only use those rounds in my rifle.
Good video....
Buy a bullet puller. You will need it for the ammo you load too. If your testing different powder charges sooner or later you will load them too hot. Pull the bullets and reload them.
Personally, the only handloadsI have ever shot that weren't my own, were those loaded by my sons while I was teaching them to reload. I have been reloading for well over 2 decades and learned from my father who taught me, and of course, he and I taught my 4 sons how to.
Thanks for another day at The world famous Heavy Metal Range WTW
sure knows how to cool a firearm quickly by opening the bolt, setting the gun upright, so the hot air traveling up the barrel draws much cooler air in the Breach and up the barrel cooling it to maximum efficiency. Wa Yea
Thanks for watching
My dad has been reloading for about 50 years and I have been reloading for about 25. We have never had a catastrophic failure. I know there have been some crazy reloading but most often I wouldn't be afraid to shoot rounds that come with a gun I am buying. If you are hesitant, just knock the bullets out and keep everything but the powder.
My nephew had a vanguard in 22-250 and we could not get it to shoot at all with different ammo. It did not have a free floated barrel and we guess that may have been the reason. Beautiful gun though. Anyways, he sold it not long after.
Of course C.O.L. really only matters to fit iin the magazine. I try to load my bullets to .020 off the rifling of my PRS rifle. and they are usually slightly longer than the recommended C.O.L. and I single load on a mag sled.
I wascgoing to say you should've pulled the pointy end off , add fresh powder...but nope ! You survived thankfully!
The shadow of the bullet has to pass directly over the sensors in order to get accurate readings with that type of chronograph . Light coming in from the side is bad news and leads t to frustrating readings . Hope this helps . Cheers Adam
Been reloading for over 30 years. I would pull the heads, dump the powder and de-prime. Resize that brass, (weigh) the bullets to verify what you have, then load with new primer and powder.
DO NOT fire reloaded ammo from an unknown source!
I absolutely love my 6.5-300's. I load my own ammo for them using the 127gr. Barnes LRX , Wby. Brass, Federal Gold Metal Match lg. mag. rifle primers, and Hodgdon US 869. Very efficient freezer filling machine.💯
That brass is worth a small fortune. Use a Hornady collet bullet puller with appropriate collet. Dump the powder in the flower garden as it’s good fertilizer. Reload working up from loading manual as usual. Best of my knowledge that cartridge isn’t just the fastest 6.5…..it’s simply the fastest of all calibers. Barrel life is probably about 800 shots and who knows how much it’s been shot already. I know the theory behind using a lead sled, but accuracy is thrown off with them. This video shows how much that sled moves upon firing. Sell that thing for scrap metal! Nice rifle though. I’d love that in a 6.5-284 Norma or 7PRC.
It's far from the fastest of all cartridges. The 6.5x300 Weatherby tops out at about 3600 fps. 220 swift can reach 4400 fps.
@@floridagunrat1625 You are correct, but it is the fastest of all 6.5 calibers. Also not many, if any, getting over 4,200 fps out of a 220 Swift.
That ammo is almost impossible to find
Never trust another person's reloads.
"Every single expert I asked said, 'absolutely NOT', so we're going to go ahead and give it a try".
That's the shooters version of, "Here, hold my beer..."
Never buy ammo at a pawnshop
The pawn shops near me charge even more than the gun ranges, and often it's second-hand. Oof.
The pawn shop here sales new ammunition the only thing that is used is components for reloading
The pawnshops around here only sell factory ammo and when the other stores were sold out of ammo during the coof they had some
Whoteewho give that thing a good scrub down to bare metal.The throat’s carbon up big time on those . Labradors are dirt cheap used since the new Garmin is out . I think you need one . Thanks for all you do
Since you have the dies, pull the bullets, dump the powder(it makes decent fertilizer), and charge with your own powder. Whomever contacted you claiming to be the prior owner, might provide insight into the loads - primer, actual bullet description, etc.
Good luck.
So far seems like they knew what they were doing to me atleast 1 one thousandth of inch which in my eyes are close enough because that's just the length I'd more worried about diameter and weight
Fertilizer? Maybe if it was black powder. I'm not so sure about smokeless...
@@NelsonZAPTM nitrocellulose...nitrogen
@@NelsonZAPTMolder stuff wouldn’t worry about, but there are so many chemical treatments on modern powders to adjust burn rate that who knows what that stuff would do to your plants. The modern treated powders work amazing but it does raise other questions.
@@jaydunbar7538 I have an organic garden and orchard, I don't think gun powder of any kind is on the approved list 😉
Years ago I was shooting my .357 revolver with a friend who also had a .357. He had bought some reloads from the local gun store, they came in a zip lock bag. After shooting a few I couldn’t seem to hit anything. I looked down the barrel and no rifling - the grooves were filled with soft lead. When I got home and cleaned the barrel with brass brushes I had a pile of lead that came out of the barrel, almost enough to mold another bullet.
Curious.... did u leave the ammo on the table in the sun while the gun cooled? That can impact pressure and ballistics and could explain the 1.8 cold vs .92 warm. Cold barrel warm ammo vs warm barrel warm ammo. And u should have chrono'd every shot
In the shade
I was reloading 357 for a 686-6. I followed the reloading from the bullet manufacturer EXACTLY. I was loading by volume but also checking each one by weight (it was a new to me powder HP-38). I loaded to the low and up to the max in small increments (it wasnt a big spread). The LOW one was really hot. Like not good. I went back home. Checked the load data against all the common load data sources... the LOW was EQUAL OR HIGHER than the HIGH than the amount listed on the bullet manufacturer page. So you can even make no mistakes and still get a surprise.
When you bought that gun I was hoping that the barrel wasn't shot out! Anxious to see how it progresses.
Stay tuned
I had the exact same rifle.
Shot cloverleafs at 100yrds with the 127 gr. Factory ammo. It get hot real fast
Never trust someone else reloading. Unless you know them very well.
If you know the powder used in the reload then you can disassemble a few, measure the load to published data, and if it is within spec I'd try a few. Otherwise, open them all, dump the powder on the lawn, neck size, and add new powder and the bullets yourself.
I use a Hy-skor remote- firing sled for such shenanigans. Love your spirit of adventure. Man that's SOME feedback (recoil)! 👍
Thanks for watching
Yes, it's interesting, but I'd have to check out a few things before I would buy one my self. And yes, be very aware of loads being too hot from a factory too!
I am just starting your video and my eyes and face just cringed when I realized what you were about to do. I have been reloading for 53 years… and if I did not load it… I pull the bullets and start over.
With Pro-Chrono Digital models use both sky screens or neither. I ended up using the powered LED option.
Don't throw the ammo away, pull the bullets, reuse the brass primers and bullets with a known powder and charge.
If you're at a party with strangers would you trust what they rolled up?
Nope, smoke your own rolled treats!!! Same story bro! Only trust what you rolled yourself.
Grass or brass, it's all the same!
I reload for accuracy for all of my guns except rim fire. I totally agree with your friends about reloading. That said, since you have the dies, and friends who reload, take the reloads that you have, knock them apart, and reassemble them with powder that you are happy with.
I you can afford all those rifles, then you could surly afford a $100 crony. 😂
@@WHOTEEWHOhahaha! BS King! Can, bench rest. No chrony…
Maybe you could reach out to a manufacturer to review one. Couldn't hurt.
@WHOTEEWHO there's an old proverb: If you've never shot a chrony, then you have something to look forward too.
I bought 100rds of Federal Fusion 140gr 270, new in the box. they clame 3000f/sec. This they did, but they also produced far too much heat. Granted it was a hot day (over 100°), but it didn't take long before this ammo started popping out the primers and over heated the barrel.
Maybe you already know this, but measuring overall length is unreliable due to differences between where the points on spitzer bullets will be.
The best method is to use one of the tools (Hornady makes one, and Brownells sells one for multiple calibers that I have) that measure to the ogive.
Yes, never fire anybody else’s reloads because they may have used the wrong powder. I made that mistake once never again.😊 very lucky I didn’t damage my gun lever action 3030 didn’t wanna open after I fired around. It was a super hot load. They use the wrong powder by mistake.😊
That's a whole lotta BOOGIE 😬🎯
Absolutely
Been running almost this exact same rig for about 4 years now in 6.5 Creed, been a solid 3/4 min gun with pretty much everything I shoot. Three position safety, sako extractor, fluted barrel, 2-stage trigger, stock is pretty much garbage but for under a 1k, one of the best hunting rifles you can buy.
I am sideways! haha never shoot someone elses loads.. you know why.... you can pull the bullets, def save the brass. you can weigh the powder if you wanna.
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I was gifted a box of fifty .308 that 'someone' had reloaded.....never fired a single one! Just carefully took them apart and recycled the components. I don't hand load anyway so the components went to a very good friend who does. He was thrilled! I would never risk putting anything through any rifle that I didn't know was absolutely safe and within limits.
Stay safe!
Kinetic bullet puller, junk the powder and reload to spec.
I had a thin barrel like that on a .308. Futzed with it for almost a year with different loads and scopes. After 4 shots the groups went all over the paper. Found out barrel was flexing. Got rid of the barrel for a heavier one and groups tightened right up.
My guess is lake city .308 reloads
I used to have a 6.5 STW, The rifle was phenomenally accurate for the first 300 rounds then it started showing signs of throat erosion . With the bearing surface of the 6.5 bullet and the higher velocities I wouldn’t expect the barrel to have a very long serviceable lifespan.
Great rifle, hopefully it works out for you, I'd be interested in you taking one round of ammo apart and checking as to what is actually in it, measure the bullet and powder weights, maybe you'll even be able to identify what powder is in it and figure out if everything is safe. All the comments telling you not to shoot/trust that reloaded ammo are from your followers like me who care about your family and you, please stay safe
No chance I'd shoot reloads unless they came from the two friends who I completely trust, or my father. Other than that I'd pull the bullets and start from primed brass, after I prepped the cases. It's just not worth KBing the rifle or possibly end up picking metal out of my face. I already have enough metal in me that doesn't belong there!
Reloads.. pull and use the powder as fertilizer then, resize (as it may have been neck sized) re-prime and reload. Only buy used hand loads if the cost is well below the component cost or VERY RARE.
I bought some reman ammo once during the planned Covid hysteria when ammo was scarce. Several primers failed with good strikes. Some were more powerful than others (I could easily hear the difference). Stopped after a few. Not blowing up my gun to save a few dollars.
WTW could be "blemished bullets" loaded. Which lots of companies sell. These can be from machine set up etc.
Break those reloads down measure bullets diameter and lengths. Pitch the powder or use for something other than rifle rounds. I would break them down completely, measure brass, resize if ok and load with my components. I'm not gonna say anything about shooting unknown reloads. I didn't see any sticky rounds or hard bolt lift so my guess is bullets.
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As long as the brass hasn’t been compromised…
The fired brass will be formed to your chamber.
That should help tighten up your groups providing that you find the right powder and bullet combination.
Nice gun. Cool video.💪👍🥃
With the turrets: Windage; When some “ left”: turn “ away” from you. Elevation; I think of screwing/unscrewing a cap on a bottle.. (right goes down, left the cap lifts up. Easier to explain in person though.. 😅
I reloaded since my teens, but a couple of years ago caught myself using bullseye for my 218 bee. Forget the charge weight, but needless to say it would have wreaked havoc on my 1894 marlin. Thankfully noticed before leaving the bench. My mind just isn’t what it was 75 years ago. Quit reloading and sold all my equipment and supplies, just not safe for me anymore. Got to know your limits!
6.5-300 is one of those chambers that took the 6.5 to the extreme in velocity but is a barrel burner so this rifle is a nice one but should scope the barrel as they don't last long.
I have a Vanguard First Lite in 6.5x300, it would not group factory Weatherby ammo under 2.5 inches, not happy, I was told to contact Hendershots custom ammo in Maryland, after talking to him he loaded me some of his ammo, 143 ELD X's group 3/4 inch. I only use his ammo now for that rifle.
Good to hear. This one like weatherby ammo. Videos soon
I have the Meat Eater special edition that Sportsman Warehouse sells. It doesn’t like the factory Ammo either. I had it bedded in a Boyd’s stock but haven’t had the opportunity to try it out again. Hopefully it will do better than the junk plastic stock that Howa puts them in. I have the 127 grain Barnes and the 130 grain Scirroco factory ammunition
One of the many firearm commandments. Never fire reloads not knowing, and confirming, the powder charge and the rifle it was developed in.
The best way for me to remember which direction to adjust a scope is to think of the turret like a screw. Tighten it and it (The Bullet) moves down, loosen it for up. Same for left and right.
About 40 years ago I was at a range where a guy used some .30-06 ammo he bought at a gun show in his Browning Safari, (FN action). 1st two rounds were fine, then BOOM! The stock shattered and the fellow had shards all over hus face. Luckily, he was wearing glasses and they were mangled, but his eyes were ok. Ambulance was there in 5 minutes, but he was in a lot of pain. I've never seen a rifle in so many pieces, or a face that looked like a porcupine before. I NEVER shoot anybody's reloads but mine!
26" barrel. I have .22 RF rifles with 28" barrels. I have a
308 Rimington 700 BDL with 30" barrel. I have .223s with 30" barrels and my Savage M12 carrying a barrel that from a closed bolt that is 32" to the muzzle. This barrel is 1 1/4 in diameter. I have seen longer barrels on the line at large F-Class matches in F-Open class.
To remember up and down just remember it'd like a screw, righty tighty equals down and lefty loosey is up.. on horizontal its righty tighty is left and lefty loosey is right.
The title "Shouldn't have shot - and neither should you" is really appropriate. Having said that, I understand why - $5/rd is really expensive. STILL, the rule of thumb is to never shoot ammo that you don't fully know the provenance of. All uncertain ammo should have the bullets pulled and the powder discarded. Personally, I don't worry about the primers, but if you fully follow safety guidelines, even the primers should be wasted. Case and bullet ok for reloading - by the shooter - on their own equipment. Alternatively, you can get ammo from a reloader who went to the trouble of getting a license to sell reloads.
So, again, title appropriate. 👍
The variable grouping makes me think the rounds are a bit hot, but solid copper bullets won't group consistently if guilding jacketed bullets have been shot through the gun. Couldn't tell if that's what they were, but it's something to keep in mind. I will say that the sole one inch group shows a lot of promise for the rifle, but the long freebore of Weatherby chamberings will typically mean that one inch is the best to expect.
Pull the bullets and save the case’s and primer and then you can weigh the projectiles and put your own powder charges
My experience reloading for my 300 WBY. I was never able to better WBY ammo for velocity and accuracy. WBY 160 gr ammo has shot half inch at 200 yards with velocity within 100 fps of advertised.
Never shoot reloads from someone you don't trust with your life. Everything outside the case may measure up correct but you have no idea what is inside. Brand of powder, grains of powder, primer size. Just not worth it. Take the bullets apart and use the brass and if you know the bullet and weight then you can use it. Never re-use anything that goes bang being powder and primers.
Never had a Weatherby but I did have a .300 rum custom built back in 2003 has a fluted Sendero barrel with a muzzle brake. That gun put a lot of meat on the table still have it haven't shot it in a long time. The last one I took was an 11 point in 2017 but I used a single shot 45/70.
Typically chronographs need two screens: One detects the bullet and starts a timer then the second screen detects the bullet some distance away to stops the timer. The time is known as is the distance between the screens. From that it calculates the feet per second (velocity).
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Ok Adam it’s simple pull the bullets dump out the powder spread it in your garden save the bullets and load your own. I’m thinking Retumbo or H4831 just to name two powders that should work well in that high volume case. Remember barrel life is very short on those way over bored calibers.
Considering the case volume of a 300wby, what could possibly go wrong if you loaded a really fast burning powder in a cartridge vs the slow burning powder which its recommended for? Yes, this ammo is expensive ($75-$120) , but so is an ER visit . Unlike an automobile, we dont come with replacement parts available at reasonable prices which are of the same quality or better than the original.
How much and what powder in those loads, Noted the bullet but not the powder and primer. My guess a Federal 215 Magnum. Not knowing the powder and the amounts would make the ammo suspect in my book. Its a hunting rifle so it's basically check zero and go hunt. I had a 300 WM in a German MK V that I bought back in 1972. I hunted with it one season, shot one bull moose with it and it became a safe queen till I paired down my collection some years back. I have a 7mm Weatherby Mag, MK V in my opinion the best Weatherby Cartridge of the lot. That one would put four 139 gr factory loads into 1.2 inches @ 200 yards. Four shots. Plenty accurate for big game hunting. The only issue I had with it, Damn thing weight out near 10 lbs. I shot a lot of game with it. Once I got the loads I wanted. As long as the brass extracts ok you should be fine. But my gut tells me, just pull the bullets dump the powder and primer and start over, not knowing how many times those cases have been loaded makes them suspect too.
Measuring the COL is a good start
Pull a fewvrounds apart and measure the powder and case length.
Then you will know!!!