Are Beckett Slabs Ever Worth Buying Over PSA? (Mail Day!)

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  • @JunkWaxHero
    @JunkWaxHero  19 годин тому +2

    What do you think about buying Beckett slabs?

    • @BringingTheHeat-VBC
      @BringingTheHeat-VBC 15 годин тому +1

      I don't like it anymore. Too much effery and being beat like a bald headed stepchild with Beckett grading. I don't trust their authentication either as I have seen multiple errors authenticating known wife signed Mays and A Dom Dimaggio they authenticated for Joe on a 41 Playball. Then, Goof Wilson paid 25K for it. Maybe cause he knows so much about "Jolly Joe DiGiammaco"? Will never buy another. For newer stuff, my stance is "Who cares"😇Have at it.
      That said, I have a gorgeous 51 Bowman Mantle BVG 5 with subgrades. "9" centering with no print lines, wax back and perfect registry. You just don't find this card with all these attributes very often. When I bought it, I paid PSA/SGC 3/4 prices. That was 5 years ago and you couldnt buy this card for what I paid if it was cut in half.
      My eyes hurt, I can't see doing anything with it but enjoying it. When I sell it, It will sell for "PSA 5 Prices" or it will rot trying. 🤣

    • @JunkWaxHero
      @JunkWaxHero  15 годин тому

      @ I’ve gotta see your collection someday

  • @dailey7779
    @dailey7779 15 годин тому +3

    Once a year around my birthday I send in about ten cards from my junk wax collection to Beckett to be graded with sub grades. They’re not worth anything but I enjoy trying to guess the grades of cards that I collected as a child. Having the cards graded and encased to look at every so often puts a smile on my face. Instant nostalgia! 😊

    • @JunkWaxHero
      @JunkWaxHero  15 годин тому

      @@dailey7779 that’s really fun!

  • @MrJmangini
    @MrJmangini 18 годин тому +8

    If you collect slabs no. If you collect cards yes.

    • @JunkWaxHero
      @JunkWaxHero  18 годин тому

      Exactly

    • @mikekrantz7436
      @mikekrantz7436 18 годин тому +2

      @MrJmangini absolutely spot on or one hundred double underlined as the kids say

  • @aw.8.
    @aw.8. 19 годин тому +5

    My general rule of thumb is that if the card needs to be in a PSA 10 slab for it to make sense for me to collect then it’s probably not a card that belongs in my collection. Almost like that Marie Kondō lady’s approach, does it spark joy in a BGS 2.5? Then it’s probably worth collecting 😂

  • @joeschmoe2011
    @joeschmoe2011 12 годин тому +1

    It possibly makes for an interesting dilemma for PSA to see autograph cards sent to them that were previously in a Beckett slab. $250 for a Beckett slabbed auto and $400 for a PSA slabbed auto. And of this $150 markup PSA is getting only $30 for the grading service and slab? But the entire markup is due to the PSA name. That has to tick off PSA. They will figure out a way to get half that markup in the future. They push fees as far as the market will bear.
    I'm not a big fan of autograph authentication and grading. There are too many ways to manipulate the system, especially with high dollar cards. For the scammers, most of the time a person is only out some personal time and their grading fees for trying to pull something off that could have a fairly big profit.

  • @basbalking
    @basbalking 19 годин тому +3

    As a autograph collector I am fine with Beckett auto slabs, especially when the price is much less than a PSA. Over the years I got more than my share of great Beckett auto slabs at reduced prices.

  • @NuthinFancyCollectibles
    @NuthinFancyCollectibles 5 годин тому +1

    Yes, Beckett slabs are worth getting. You named several reasons already. A card I want is already protected and graded. I do pay less, but if I’m keeping it for a while I’m even happier. The slabs are tough, thick, and heavy. I agree with you about the brand. Nice cards, Mike.

  • @CollectingNolan
    @CollectingNolan 15 годин тому +1

    I’m still up in the air about grading. I prefer PSA slabs over SGC probably due to the set registry. Lately though I’ve been using the set registry simply as a checklist. As a collector, it’s all about the card for me. I just want the card with the grade being secondary or even negligible (for example if it’s a good looking raw card). However, they will not be my cards forever. So in preparedness for my family’s own attic find Friday, I would prefer to leave them with all Gem Mint PSA 10’s because of the resale value. But who is to say that the PSA dominance will last forever? With their ever increase in pricing and in the presence of a “junk slab” era where slabbing modern cards becomes more expensive than what the card is worth, will the dominance of PSA hold. I don’t know. I guess my main goal is to be known as the old grandpa who left all of these Nolan Ryan’s (and to a lesser extent, other players) for future generations.

    • @JunkWaxHero
      @JunkWaxHero  14 годин тому

      Please don’t leave an attic find soon! It can definitely wait 😊

    • @CollectingNolan
      @CollectingNolan 14 годин тому +1

      @ not a grandpa yet so not planning to go anytime soon. There’s too many more Nolan’s to be had! 🤣

  • @Omirodder
    @Omirodder 19 годин тому +3

    A graded card, from a “named” company, is a graded card. I look for PSA, SGC, or Beckett usually. I also kind of like the TAG ones. But if I can get 2 SGC = 1 PSA , it’s a no brainer???

  • @brianwisz9006
    @brianwisz9006 15 годин тому +1

    I had a similar experience myself recently (I actually just received it Monday). I won a 1955 Topps All-American Jim Thorpe BVG 6 for about 60% of what it would be in a PSA slab. I have several of them but this one was well centered and that category always goes for a premium with vintage.
    I also don't like the Beckett slabs.

    • @JunkWaxHero
      @JunkWaxHero  14 годин тому

      Nice pickup!
      Yeah the Beckett flip drives me crazy. Looks terrible

  • @davelachey8118
    @davelachey8118 15 годин тому +1

    I prefer PSA and SGC but I have several Beckett slabs for the same reason you stated for the Betts card. I bought the “card” at a big discount. I think Beckett will ultimately survive, but not under present ownership. They are still number 4 with a long brand history. And if they don’t survive, I still have the card inside the slab!

    • @JunkWaxHero
      @JunkWaxHero  15 годин тому

      @@davelachey8118 well said, Dave

  • @jeffg3063
    @jeffg3063 14 годин тому +1

    i like odd slabs one of my Fisk rookies is in an old Larry Fritsch holder

  • @BZARZAGZA
    @BZARZAGZA 14 годин тому +1

    I bought a 84 Fleer Update Clemens in a Beckett 8.5 bc I'm a collector not a flipper.

  • @5714Collector
    @5714Collector 18 годин тому +1

    Hi Mike, anytime you can save 50-60% for the same card in the Beckett slab, I would buy that card every time. It does not make sense to pay the PSA premium. Thanks for sharing.

  • @JayAverageVintageCollector
    @JayAverageVintageCollector 19 годин тому +2

    Honestly, I used to love Beckett slabs because of the sub grades. Once the values began to plummet, I shied away. But for what? I’m not a seller or flipper, so I guess I just followed the crowd.

  • @sidezskateshop1556
    @sidezskateshop1556 18 годин тому +2

    CEO of Beckett going to jail?!?! Holy cow!!!

    • @JunkWaxHero
      @JunkWaxHero  18 годин тому +1

      He’s not the CEO of Beckett but yeah

    • @sidezskateshop1556
      @sidezskateshop1556 18 годин тому +1

      @ ahh I see now, parent company right?! Crazy times we live in!!!

    • @stevenrex-p5g
      @stevenrex-p5g 14 годин тому

      Its just another white collar crimanal kike most big conglomerate ceo's

  • @ACollectorsDream
    @ACollectorsDream 17 годин тому +1

    Congrats on the Joe Louis card, beautiful example.

  • @LetsStormTheTeaCupRide
    @LetsStormTheTeaCupRide 19 годин тому +2

    I have 1050 slabs and only one of them is Beckett. People just love PSA. I bought a CGC 10 card for 20% of what a PSA 10 card sold for. As a pure collector, I buy the card.

    • @JunkWaxHero
      @JunkWaxHero  19 годин тому

      Yeah the CGC discount is real!

    • @DanielCordone9
      @DanielCordone9 18 годин тому

      Haha, i have 1042 slabs and about 400 are Beckett slabs

  • @j.tyler2024
    @j.tyler2024 17 годин тому

    SGC is good. I like even the new TAG slabs. Plus, they give you a detailed report on why your card got the grade it did. Which is awesome and every grading company should do. The slabs are the nicest I've seen.

  • @stevepizzo6062
    @stevepizzo6062 17 годин тому +1

    I'm fine with Beckett slabs, I have a few, as a matter of fact I just picked one up this past Sunday at the Fireside show. I got a 1993 Topps Derek Jeter RC, Beckett 8.5 for $10 a great deal I feel.

    • @JunkWaxHero
      @JunkWaxHero  16 годин тому

      That is a great deal! Shame I forgot about the show. Maybe I’ll go in January.

  • @mookiechillson
    @mookiechillson 17 годин тому +1

    I sure hope the Beckett autos I have are good! I actually prefer the flip on their autograph slabs - sad that their resale value isn’t quite the same… but like you, I’ll worry about that down the road!

    • @JunkWaxHero
      @JunkWaxHero  16 годин тому

      Yeah that’s interesting because I think Beckett has the worst flips in the industry, by far!

    • @mookiechillson
      @mookiechillson 16 годин тому +1

      @ I don’t think the design of the Beckett flip is that good in and of itself… to me it’s just less obtrusive than PSA. the data read out/candy cane red/white PSA flip calls your (well…. *my*) attention away from the card.

    • @JunkWaxHero
      @JunkWaxHero  16 годин тому

      @@mookiechillson fair!

  • @deadlyredly
    @deadlyredly 17 годин тому +1

    people prefer PSA for the set registry and I prefer it because there are more PSA slabs out there and I to like the uniformity, but I do still respect Beckett slabs and got a mint looking BVG 8 Gretzky RC for half the price of a PSA 8

  • @thecollectingnomad
    @thecollectingnomad 18 годин тому +1

    Exactly. Agree with you fully. It’s authenticated. It’s the same card but sells for way less. Common thing in this hobby nowadays. Pay an extreme premium because of a name on the flip (PSA) and not actually the card. Same card different company name. Although , a legitimate company who has been around for a long time. I would take that card all day long in a Beckett slab for the price difference. Congrats on the pickup. Thank you for sharing.

    • @JunkWaxHero
      @JunkWaxHero  18 годин тому

      @@thecollectingnomad thanks!

  • @deanwilson7070
    @deanwilson7070 18 годин тому +1

    Congrats on the Betts , if the price is right I don’t see a problem using Beckett.

    • @JunkWaxHero
      @JunkWaxHero  18 годин тому

      @@deanwilson7070 thanks Dean!

  • @jpacrylicstudio145
    @jpacrylicstudio145 17 годин тому +1

    I have no issues with the in person autograph verified by Beckett. I don't think it will lose it's value, if they no longer exist as a grading company. Nice cards and a really nice price! Congratulations!

  • @jeffkoll4002
    @jeffkoll4002 17 годин тому

    I believe PSA is propped up by uninformed purchasers, which has created the premium charge. It used to be the cheapest to get your cards graded, and along with that they have the registry. So many people just went to PSA because it has been the leader for so many years. It wasn’t that long ago when PSA didn’t sell at a premium.
    PSA has my least favorite slabs. In the past 3 years I have bought 4 PSA slabbed cards. Cracked two of them out. I only get cards slabbed in PSA if I intend to sell them. I prefer TAG slabs if I want a card slabbed for anything since 1989 and CGC for older cards.
    As a general rule, I prefer to buy raw cards. I usually only buy in slabs if I can’t find the one I want raw. Not buying any pre-1960 or high value vintage, so not much risk in what I do buy.
    I would definitely buy a card I want in a Beckett slab, and especially if it is cheaper than other slabs, with no raw option.
    Thanks for your videos!!!

  • @CSSkoolieProject
    @CSSkoolieProject 19 годин тому +1

    I feel the same way about PSA 10 vs 9.. I will rarely even purchase a PSA 10 because I feel like they are grading 10's a 9 in alot of cases anyways.

    • @JunkWaxHero
      @JunkWaxHero  18 годин тому +1

      Yep!

    • @DanielCordone9
      @DanielCordone9 18 годин тому +1

      A lot of PSA 10's have damaged corners or creases. You've got to be careful what you buy.

  • @sfosoxfan
    @sfosoxfan 10 годин тому +1

    I looked and didn’t see it mentioned (or hear you say it), but one of the bigger reasons Mookie’s pack pulled 2014 autos are that much more of a multiple than the IP autos, 2014 is the only year you can get the pack pulled, on-card autos from him. He has some sticker autos in random 2015 Topps products from whatever leftover stickers they had but then that’s it, no autos of any kind for Topps after 2015. The IP auto you got is fantastic and still rarer than people realize, so congrats!

    • @sfosoxfan
      @sfosoxfan 10 годин тому +1

      Oh, as for Beckett, I find it odd that people thought they were better than PSA in say, 2014 ... but now, people that prefer PSA but, why would 2014 BGS be less than 2014 PSA if comparing apples to apples (same card)? I think you're onto something about BGS being a bargain in many instances.

    • @JunkWaxHero
      @JunkWaxHero  6 годин тому

      Yes! Mookie’s autos are tougher to come by.

  • @ronmelnik4430
    @ronmelnik4430 18 годин тому +1

    The Beckett story to me is analogous to Fender guitars. Both were sold by the originators and then floundered. However, the name will always be part of the industry in some fashion.

  • @nicholasmantia9052
    @nicholasmantia9052 15 годин тому +1

    I have that Joe Louis card in a PSA 8........

  • @bryanhogamier3039
    @bryanhogamier3039 15 годин тому +1

    I bought a fan made 1973 topps Roger Waters signed card for like 500 bucks that is in a Beckett holder.. I have no doubt it's a legit signature. I saw a few month back a cheap pro set signed Jimmy Page card and a signed Paul McCartney card both went for 1200. Not planning on selling it, but even tho it's a fan made card, the value is in the signature and not the card. Plus there is a video of him turning down a baseball to sign, so to have a card signed is cool, even if it is fan made. Thoughts?

    • @JunkWaxHero
      @JunkWaxHero  15 годин тому

      @@bryanhogamier3039 that’s very cool!!

  • @DansVintageBaseballPC
    @DansVintageBaseballPC 15 годин тому +1

    There is going to be a shake up among the sound crew.

    • @JunkWaxHero
      @JunkWaxHero  15 годин тому +1

      @@DansVintageBaseballPC Ralph really messed this one up

  • @SportsGuru17
    @SportsGuru17 2 години тому +1

    I hope someone buys Beckett and brings it back to life. I don’t really like the slabs as they are very thick and the corners are sharp. But when it comes to buying a card that I want in my collection, I will look at the Beckett slabs as they are a little cheaper. Are you buying the card or the slab? I want the card!

  • @theathletearchives
    @theathletearchives 17 годин тому +1

    I would consider BVG at a discount. I have to assume that it is probably 1 full grade higher than it will be when crossed over to SGC. What's up with the microphone?

    • @JunkWaxHero
      @JunkWaxHero  17 годин тому

      @@theathletearchives I explained it at the beginning…

  • @matthewelliott2213
    @matthewelliott2213 12 годин тому +1

    Same thing for less money? Yeah I'm in...a deal's a deal....

  • @kenrogers1948
    @kenrogers1948 18 годин тому +1

    VHS version of JWH?... I believe the PSA premium derives from market dominance and their 'guarantee'... Beckett had a name-recognition advantage for years that they ultimately failed to capitalize on and now they are quite clearly circling the drain... within a few years they will be viewed somewhere between the similarly extinct GAI(well enough regarded but devalued since there is no longer a company backing up their work) and SGC(well regarded and still in business), so your slab is going to decrease in value...

    • @JunkWaxHero
      @JunkWaxHero  18 годин тому

      I’m okay with that! I can always cross it over some day if I need to.

    • @kenrogers1948
      @kenrogers1948 14 годин тому

      @@JunkWaxHero Hardly the equation tthat will lead enough folks to choose BGS, so that's going to accelerate things... and on some low level these slabs are 'assets' that can be sold and it seems silly to purchase an asset that you know is going down in value...

    • @JunkWaxHero
      @JunkWaxHero  2 години тому

      @@kenrogers1948 I understand what you’re saying, but i have no intention of selling anytime soon, and the cost to convert it to PSA (or whatever company is favored in 20 years) is less than the difference in cost now.

  • @Bostnfn
    @Bostnfn 15 годин тому +1

    GAI went wayward because they started authenticating everything, losing collectors' trust. As long as Beckett doesn't certify everything, while keeping decent standards, it is certainly salvageable.

  • @g.sheridan9809
    @g.sheridan9809 19 годин тому

    Buying Beckett yikes!!! Just cracked out my remaining 1950’s BVG’s for the PSA Holiday special.

  • @SteveAutio
    @SteveAutio 15 годин тому +2

    Hey Mike maybe you mentioned this somewhere and I missed it but regarding your newsletter on a down month of Oct. for EBay could also be in part because there’s a postal strike in Canada. Not being able to ship or receive is likely contributing. Cheers Mike!

    • @JunkWaxHero
      @JunkWaxHero  15 годин тому +1

      @@SteveAutio Steve, I follow the news pretty closely and am embarrassed to say that I had not heard this. I have a follow-up and will try to remember to include this. Thanks!

  • @davidheinz6124
    @davidheinz6124 17 годин тому +1

    I will buy cards graded by PSA,SGC, or BGS. I am not selling my cards. The fact that PSA cards sell for more just means I can buy more cards if they are graded by Beckett.

  • @j.tyler2024
    @j.tyler2024 17 годин тому

    First off, I'd rather have spent that 250 on a nice SGC 5 T205 Gold Border

  • @1p4g
    @1p4g 15 годин тому +1

    Now that kurts card care ingredients have been exposed, expect vintage to plummet as its very likely those cards will start to show effects of the toxic chemicals, just a matter of time im sure, surprised he hasn't been sued yet,

  • @stevenrex-p5g
    @stevenrex-p5g 14 годин тому

    Psa has only been selling higher since 2020
    I see beckett truly becoming the top dog again also beckett is owned by a conglomerate that also owns cbcs for comics
    Id buy a9.5 before psa10 any day psa lets centering in what beckett considers a8 nm in there psa gem mint

  • @jbhatts610
    @jbhatts610 16 годин тому

    That in person auto of Betts is perhaps shouldn’t be a huge discount in a bgs slab. However, an 86 fleer Jordan, I wouldn’t consider at all at any price in a bgs slab. Way too many fakes. Does psa catch them all, no. However I’ll bet they’re much than Beckett. The card matters, as does the value

  • @DanielCordone9
    @DanielCordone9 18 годин тому

    Beckett are the best of a bad bunch. They grade accurately and don't damage your cards. PSA damage your cards from every submission and upcharge.

  • @robertcremeens3166
    @robertcremeens3166 14 годин тому

    Actually I like Beckett slabs. PSA slabs have improved over the years and for the most part keep getting better. I would think someone would buy the Beckett name but then again is it a money making enterprise? The slabs didn't mess up Beckett. I think it was their reliability perceived or not. I have not graded something with them for quite a while. I was actually thinking about it a month or so ago but not now. I think you could pick up some bargains in BGS slabs if you are smart about it. I also see the Beckett alure on newer ultra modern cards that are auto cards. It is way cheaper to grade an auto card with Beckett than PSA. Its not hard to buy an ultra modern card of some new hot prospect that's over $500. If you want that card slabbed with PSA add another $100 to the cost plus the back & forth shipping. I don't really like SGC slabs either. I think they are cheap & flimsy. I might buy one on occasion but generally stay away from them. Bottom line I'm not sure Beckett or the name sticks around. It's gonna be costly to go head to head with PSA. If you do you better have a damn good holder, a good online presence and some reliability. I think Beckett only has maybe one of those.

  • @CANTON2COOPERSTOWN
    @CANTON2COOPERSTOWN 19 годин тому +1

    🙋🏻‍♂️ It would be worth it to you to pay the PSA crossover fee to turn your $250 card into a $400 card. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @JunkWaxHero
      @JunkWaxHero  18 годин тому +1

      True

    • @DanielCordone9
      @DanielCordone9 18 годин тому +1

      They would deliberately downgrade it because it's BGS. It's best to crack and submit, but I don't trust PSA

  • @johnbaumgardner8325
    @johnbaumgardner8325 3 години тому

    Just to remind you, GRADING IS A SCAM.

  • @darnellstrength5322
    @darnellstrength5322 19 годин тому +1

    Stopped watching 2 minutes in because of the audio