There is some real cognitive dissonance in those antifa comments.. thats what happens when you start changing the meaning of language, people don't understand each other anymore. Suddenly fascists become anti-fascist...
@@drainer_333 Communism is known for it's censorship. It's not really defending capitalism because most of these companies ignore their own guidelines to ban people, capitalism still plays by the rules.
The Starbucks Marxists are not actually anti-capitalism, as long as the capitalism benefits them. Most are just too lazy to go out and work a real job. Too stupid to realize it's not the system that's broken, it's just their own values. Meanwhile they'll sip their Starbucks and post commie memes all day from their iPhones while railing against "capitalism".. #resist
Can’t they just get a couple silk screen machines and run em 24/7. 8 hours shifts. It really isn’t that hard. Or just buy huge bargain packs of black shirts and stamp the logo on em in white. Hell, stencil spray paint. That is easy crap. Did it in highschool.
You blame a whole movement because of the actions of a few who claim to be associated with it. Suit yourself. One raping quarterback and the whole of football gets kicked off TV. If that the world you want to live in...
"It doesn't glorify harm/violence" "It doesn't promote a terrorist group or activity" "It doesn't promote illegal activity" ... there's a lack of self awareness and then there's this.
And I joined in because I wasn't an edge lord the they came for the vegans and I joined in because I wasn't a vegan then they came for me and I joined in because I wasn't me
First they came for the Left, and I did not speak out, because I wasn't a Leftie. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the women, and I did not speak out because I was not a woman. Then they suddenly stopped coming for people because there were no more problems!
Also the wonderful irony that their tactics for trying to shut people up that oppose them pretty much are the same ones used by the n*zis in 1930s Germany used to do the same. Antifa have become what they claim to oppose.
aeroprime they’re not fascist, because fascist is a right wing ideology, but they are definitely proto-stalinist/proto-maoist. fascism, but everyone is awful except me! 😃👍🏻
Even though I still think Heath Ledger’s Dark Knight Joker is the best one in the cinematic universe so far, Joaquin Phoenix’s portrayal of the Clown Prince of Crime is a close second since he pretty much became the way he was due to society treating him like shit for no actual reason other than they didn’t like him.
@@DangleBlampy Not really considering that they probably broke the TOS of the company and promoted things that are against the TOS. I see this as a case of them breaking their rule and caused the company to refuse services to them as a punishment. That and they used the banned word that describes a bunch of funny guys from 1940s Germany. Seriously, we can't even use that word to make fun of them anymore...
@Twisty Fresh "Smashing Facists" (as a kind of slogan) is bad? It's been fairly passe ever since Woody Guthrie performed with that on his guitar since the 40's, lol
@@thecynth3820 Antifa don't fight fascist though, they just call anyone who isn't a commie a fascist, then try and smash their head in with a bike lock. If antifa came across some real fascists, they wouldn't stand a chance, the only thing they would be able to do, is shit their pants.
@@XxzanesterxX when right wingers get kicked off, they laugh "its a private company" So now when left wingers get kicked off a _private company_ 's website, it *IS* the world they wanted.
@@lordqwertythepyromancer3458 You literally gave me the dictionary definition, then you apply your opinion of Antifa and consider that to mean they are "literally" a terrorist group. If we all applied our opinions like that then everybody and everything would be a terrorist group, including this Trump Administration.
I love how they got the guts to say: - It doesn't harass specific individuals (unless they prevent them from doing what they want). - It doesn't glorify violence (except whenever the victim of said violence is someone they disagree with). - It doesn't promote a terrorist group or activity (that's debatable at best). Edit: "it doesn't promote *illegal activity"* The *audacity* to say that when they encourage vandalism and doxxing...
There's no debate. They are a non-state actor that uses violence to push their political agenda. They are the very definition of a terrorist group. Now are they at the level of ISIS? No, not yet at lest, but that doesn't exempt them.
i am baffled by just the sheer and blatant idiocy of them whining about one of them getting shot. yeah well...that dumbass fired an assault rifle 5 times at someone...and MISSED. are you kidding me? anyone with a gun will return the favor, just because the guy with the rifle didn't know how to dodge just shows how dumb ssome of those antifa oiks are. eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth... Reap what you sow....idiots
Terrorists: "Its a private company! It can ban who it wants!" Also Terrorists: *Does terrorist things.* Also Terrorists: "WTF!? WHY ARE YOU BANNING ME!?"
"It doesn't harass specific individuals" *Andy Ngo would like to know your location* "It doesn't glorify harm/violence" 2 seconds later: **THIS HAMMER SMASHES FASCISTS**
and getting pissy sissy because their literal enemy wont fundraise their stupidity "HURR DURR WE WEELZ HANG DA MASSA WIHT THE ROPE THEYZ SEEL US AND DISTROEE DA STABLEEEZMUNT WITH HEES OWN TULZ...REEEE REEE HOWS DAT THAT U WONT SUPPORT US ANYMOAR REEEEEEE" wont be more revolutionary to make teir own chains of supply?
"we call ourselves the anti-badguy squad and call anyone against us the bad guys. obviously anyone who doesn't like bad guys is a part of our group by definition."
All leftists use this tactic. "if you aren't a feminist you hate women", "if you don't support BLM, you hate black people" ect ect. I wish people wouldn't be guilt tripped into this stuff.
@@drainer_333 Question: where are these "genuine" antifa and how come they have let a huge group of "fake" antifa run rampant in the streets burning, looting, and murdering? Makes you question where this all good "genuine" group is.
At least when classical liberals and libertarians advocate for free speech absolutism and equal treatment under the law, and then in the same breath advocate for the genocide of communists, the advocation is a JOKE and not a literal statement of what should be done.
Nazi is a made up word. It's got nothing to do with the NSDAP or Hitler. It's just a short catchy word some journalist in the English speaking world coined. It's meaningless from what I can tell.
I've met an old lady I was helping with her groceries who could barely walk. She moved in with her kids because her little house was damaged in the riots and she didn't have the money to repair it. She moved two states over to mine to live with family and she was very insecure about being "useless" to her family, so she forced herself to go out and get groceries despite taking a hour to get back in her car, even with my assistance due to both her advanced age and past injuries. I made conversation with her as I helped her into her car and nice old ladies like her always have some stories. I know people who are involved in this Antifa shit and they'd straight pass over people like this because they legit think that the ends justify the means, keyboard warriors they are. That destruction of property is legitimate protest. Who deny that Antifa has ever attacked a person, that it's ironically "fake news". People like them would call my experience anecdotal and refuse to believe that they can do no wrong. They don't work. They don't help people. They're concerned only with the dopamine they get for being "rebels". I've never hated people before meeting these fucks. They are legitimately fucking evil.
Good on you bro, glad you could help that lady. We need to fight these satanic terrorist fucks by using intelligence and evidence to shift public opinion against these far left groups who just want to destroy instead of create.
The f*ck sticks are just LARPing as revolutionaries and are trying to convince everyone, especially themselves, that they are revolutionaries changing the world.
"This hammer smashes fascists" Really? That's not promoting and glorifying some violence at all /s. imagine if that said "This hammer smashes Democrats" "This hammer smashes republicans" and so on and so forth is basically a call to violence in and of itself against anything you perceive as fascists.
our t-shirt "Doesn't promote violence or illegally activity" so that hammer softly and kindly and LEGALLY smashes fascists?? How, pray tell, does it accomplish that?
This reminds me of Robespierre who sent loads of people to the guillotine, wonder what he thought when it was literally his head on the chopping block?
EXACTLY!!! the merriam-webster dictionary definition 2 of fascism is: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control. def #1 is a political philosophy, movement, or regime that often exalts nation and race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition. which is still kinda on point. this is way different than what google says fascism is
I'm founding a group called "Good Guys Who Fight the Baddies." Join up, and be definitively justified in every conflict! That old lady definitely had it coming.
I love how immediately after saying it doesn't glorify violence they immediately show a shirt that says "This hammer smashes facists" Chris Chan levels of self awareness
Why would a communist “not an organization” organization pay a capitalist business to manufacture their propaganda? Aren’t they supposed to seize the means of production?
@@killdizzle It was *SPECIFICALLY* *_the obama regime_* who made that declaration in its First Hundred Days - much to the vehement *OBJECTION* of The Pentagon, the VA Hospital, the various Veteran's Advocacy NGOs and American Citizens in general. This happened on a Monday briefing, never once challenged by _any_ element of pravda, as they are in open agreement and _willingly complicit_ in this condemnation. They then issued the standard non-apology apology on the Friday News Dump of that week that no one covered, but the damage as intended - to drive a *_wedge_* between American society and those of us who protect it - was done. Then he moved onto to attack law enforcement and other emergency services. Classic PsyOps tactics in action. So, if a _"Dumb Grunt who jumped out of Perfectly Good Airplanes"_ like ME can see it . . . What is everyone else's excuse?
"Antifa" is to "Fascism" as "Inflammable" is to "Flammable." As the Mountain Chicken shows us, you can call yourself whatever you want, but your appearance begs to differ.
How tf do you "look" like a fascist? And how can Antifa, a non organized reactionary movement to combat white supremacy and far right statolatry "look" fascist?
@@fripplicious7466 the issue is that when it comes to militancy and how violent protesters are, y'all just so happen to focus on the ambiguous "antifa" boogeyman that has not killed a single person at least on american soil in the last 25 years, and yet right wing terrorists and objective fascists/white nationals have killed upwards of 329 people in that time frame. So it seems like your being very picky and selective for some reason.
@@Zerklass when did I say I was turning a blind eye to fascists? I fucking hate them, and I don't believe their groups should be about. But I don't think some nebulous organisation of angry young adults are going to make things better. Just because I criticize antifa doesn't mean I'm too busy to criticize other terrorist groups. It is also a fact of the matter that most far right terrorist attacks are unconnected and are spurred by a single fucked up individual rather than a big fucked up group.
@@fripplicious7466 So you're saying that the far right, who has organized militias like the Proud Boys and do organized attacks and lynchings are just mostly lone wolfs that do attacks on their own and don't reflect on the Conservative side of the isle at all, yet one professor with a bike lock hitting a dude in the head is indicative of the entire left wing reaction to institutional fascism and white supremacy? Sound hypocritical. My point is that both the media and some malicious players seem to focus specifically on dubious "Antifa" claims because (in my opinion) the mere idea of "Anti Fascism" represents a threat to the imperialist and nationalistic nature that has been sown into (at least America) since it's inception and is in conflict with Capitalism that has profited off of both of these ideals. Even "Liberal" media will do this, because Neo Liberalism will always defend the status quo and side with fascism before allowing any kind of social democracy. The negative coverage is disproportional and this Scottish prick participates in this toxic dialogue regularly.
They have been classified as a terrorist movement, so why would any company make shirts for them? the company would have to be identified as a terrorist sympathizing company and then the bigger brands or companies would not use them and they would lose business and customers.
"People's Republic of China" and "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" have "Republic" and "Democratic" in their names too, but they are neither democratic nor republics.
"It doesn't glorify harm or violence" WTF!!! Does "Punch a nazi" sound familiar??? I do not like Nazi's -but- however they have a right to exist if Antifa can exist. Edit: someone didn't like the qualifier "but". I can understand that.
I support what antifa says they're against ie: being against fascism. But they use the exact same fucking tactics as the people they claim to oppose. I'm very left leaning, but boy do a lot of the left make it hard to agree with em. I agree with a lot of the end goals, but i fucking hate how they go about getting that. I've been trashtalked by other people i agree with, just for criticizing the way they front the opinion. It's ridiculous. Everyone is so polarized now they can't see reason in any part of the spectrum anymore
I'd counter argue that these Tshirts actually serve to finance a terrorist movement and their criminal activities, and as such the selling of their T-shirt should not be allowed. At least no NTFA affiliates should receive the proceeds.
I remember someone wise saying something close to the following, "The laws and policies you strive for in order to silence your opposition, can and eventually will be used to silence YOU."
"Antifa is _clearly_ anti-fascist. It's in the name." Cool. Then I assume you'll also agree that the National Socialist German Worker's Party were socialists. Thanks for playing. :)
In fairness, there is not a lot of difference between fascism and socialism. Both are totalitarian forms of government with little wiggle room for the individual between what is compulsory and what is forbidden* (although, Socialism is further to the left**, than Fascism). Under fascism, private companies are heavily regulated to the point that the State does not actually have to nationalize them (FDR's New Deal is a good example of fascist economic policy, and may even be an example of good fascist economic policy [this is subject to much debate]). In many ways, fascism makes for stronger economies than socialism, as the people that built up capital are the best ones to figure out how to properly apply it. Allowing individuals to enjoy property rights does put some limits on the power of the State, but the increased wealth is worth it, as wealth is not a zero-sum game, so the State is more powerful, despite not holding all of the power. Fascism is just Socialism with some property rights. Those workers that still had jobs did very well under FDR's New Deal, so the NSDAP was close enough to Socialist for most workers' points of view and different enough from socialism to allay the fears of the wealthy. The most important aspect of the NSDAP was that, unlike the other socialist parties, the NSDAP was a party of Germans for Germans, while the socialists were unabashedly advocating becoming another Soviet Socialist Republic answering to Moscow. * Admittedly, going by Beria's boast "Show me the man and I will show you the crime", you could believe that Stalin went too far, as Beria is suggesting that Socialism could declare some things to be both compulsory AND forbidden, so any potential troublemaker could be immediately taken off of the streets and dealt with. ** I am trying to advance a new definition of the political spectrum. The spectrum should be a sliding scale of the balance between the rights of the Individual and the power of the State. On the extreme left is Socialism, where the State wields all power and the Individual has no rights. On the extreme right is Anarchy, where the rights of the Individual are paramount, due to the non-existence of the State. Communism is not on this spectrum as Communism is the Platonic ideal of an ordered society, while Anarchy, Socialism, and everything in between are shadows cast on the walls of Plato's Cave by Communism. [bad math inspired pun] Political Science is complex, because people are real and Communism is imaginary. [/bad math inspired pun]
@@richardbell7678 Ill have to disagree on the New deal being a Fascist economic policy, mostly because a hallmark of the Fascist economy being that all major businessmen are made into party members or at least party collaborators, its purpose is to increase party control over the economy without the need for central planning. While FDR did heavily regulate the economy, he didnt do this to turn businessmen into democratic party members and collaborators. Businessmen were still allowed to be politically opposed to the democratic party, and i dont know of any instances where businesses were oppropriated due to the owner doing an insufficient job.
-This hammer smashes fascists! -Not promoting violence or harassment Aren't they aware that what they say on their T-Shirts could be considered that? xD
But it's not violence if it's against fascists, don't you understand? They're subhuman because they dehumanize and brutalize minorities. Smashing fascists is justice, not violence
Even in the most "their-way" interpretation: Cause does not justify. beeing anti-x does not do anything for you. Beeing anti homeless orphans does not mean buldozing a retirement-home with the people in it to build an orphanage is suddenly a nice thing and not murder.
Teespring has banned several “right wingers”, and I had purchased an Umami plush for my kid and they emailed me a survey. I very politely explained that Teespring endorsing a political ideation was bad business and I wouldn’t be shopping with them in future.
@@Sarah27H Fair point. I don't know who the people are that control TeeSpring, but if they hold their political opinion higher than their company, this could lead to political censorship on their platform. Of course, the chance is this is rather slim.
I'm going to start a group called "never wrong" and we'll do whatever we want, if you've got a problem with us, you must be wrong, because as our name clearly implies, we are clearly correct and just in all we do
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"It doesn't promote a terrorist group or activity"
Uhhhhhhhhhhhh... 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
H M M M M
I'm sure ANTIFA idiots have defined violence and terrorism to specifically exclude their own group. They're not very bright.
press square to doubt.
Trump: LOL!
Executive order goes *BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!*
There is some real cognitive dissonance in those antifa comments.. thats what happens when you start changing the meaning of language, people don't understand each other anymore. Suddenly fascists become anti-fascist...
Its "peaceful" terrorist groups or activity.
Dont forget that.
"It's a private company it can do what it wants". they dont like their own medicine
@@drainer_333 Yet the left uses the argument
"It's only cool when WE do it!"
-PC Babies
Loutro You cant be this stoopid??
@@drainer_333 Communism is known for it's censorship. It's not really defending capitalism because most of these companies ignore their own guidelines to ban people, capitalism still plays by the rules.
@@IRISHSALTMINER61 Can you?
But, they're a private company, they can do what they want. :)
They don’t like it cuz they don’t have a share in the ownership. Cuz this is capitalism
@Joe Ç The arrogant smile at the end really makes it doesn't it.
Unless I don't like it >:(
HIHI :3333
Loutro But that’s all they do say, so are they doing leftard wrong, per chance....
The irony of an anti-capitalist movement upset that a business won't print their shirts...
*sips coffee and nods head in agreement*
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The Starbucks Marxists are not actually anti-capitalism, as long as the capitalism benefits them. Most are just too lazy to go out and work a real job. Too stupid to realize it's not the system that's broken, it's just their own values. Meanwhile they'll sip their Starbucks and post commie memes all day from their iPhones while railing against "capitalism".. #resist
@@charliewatts333 Ironically enough they follow the fascist model: private when possible, state-owned when needed/easier
Can’t they just get a couple silk screen machines and run em 24/7. 8 hours shifts. It really isn’t that hard.
Or just buy huge bargain packs of black shirts and stamp the logo on em in white. Hell, stencil spray paint. That is easy crap. Did it in highschool.
"Antifa doesn't promote violence, terrorism or illegal activities!"
*Meanwhile, in America...*
You blame a whole movement because of the actions of a few who claim to be associated with it. Suit yourself. One raping quarterback and the whole of football gets kicked off TV. If that the world you want to live in...
@@psyantologist It's been that way for awhile now, just alot of tik for tak practices these days.
@@psyantologist here, you dropped your clown horn
"we don't glorify harm or violence" but then "this hammer smashes fascists"
@@psyantologist Haha lol now get in the patrol car
"It doesn't glorify harm/violence"
"It doesn't promote a terrorist group or activity"
"It doesn't promote illegal activity"
... there's a lack of self awareness and then there's this.
Ascended delusionals
Let's be fair. They're a bunch of Communists and Communists have zero self-awareness
it's not delusional. IF you don't know that they are straight lying to you at this point i don't know what to tell you.
@@LoneWolf-rc4go "thAT waSn'T ReAl CoMmuNism!"
Oh, but you see, violence and terrorism are bad. What Antifa does is good. Therefore, they cannot possibly be guilty of violence or terrorism.
Imagine weighing 600 pounds, labelling yourself as anti-obese and then claiming everyone else is fat.
Most underrated comment on this thread
@@TheUltimateHacker007 No, no - this comment is overrated and proud to be so.
This is one of the best comparisons I’ve ever read....😂
Very good comparison
Sounds like something Dankula would do
“At first they came for the edgelords...”
then the pugs
At first they came for the blacks. Then they came for the jews. Then they kinda stopped coming because all the problems were gone.
And I joined in because I wasn't an edge lord the they came for the vegans and I joined in because I wasn't a vegan then they came for me and I joined in because I wasn't me
@Timefliesbye i read it *LaughHead* 🤣🤣🤣🤣
First they came for the Left, and I did not speak out, because I wasn't a Leftie.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the women, and I did not speak out because I was not a woman.
Then they suddenly stopped coming for people because there were no more problems!
_"Bu-bu-but we're against fascists."_
*proceeds to label everyone fascist*
Also the wonderful irony that their tactics for trying to shut people up that oppose them pretty much are the same ones used by the n*zis in 1930s Germany used to do the same. Antifa have become what they claim to oppose.
aeroprime they’re not fascist, because fascist is a right wing ideology, but they are definitely proto-stalinist/proto-maoist. fascism, but everyone is awful except me! 😃👍🏻
just means their against everyone, just a mater of time before they tear themselves up
@DanRage47 The communists criticized a certain Germany Party, because "they were killing the wrong people"
Proceeds to BE fascist, you mean
For a group who hates capitalism, they sure like commercialism.
Funny how antifa only exists in capitalist contries
@@duncanmcocinner5939 Technically their Revolutionary®™ merch is made with Chinese slave labor.
@@Theranthrope Pretty sure some of their groups also get funding from China, I believe BLM did... Really gets the nogging jogging...
@@six2make4 I fully believe China is funding these Leftist groups to destabilize the United States as part of 4th Generation Warfare tactics.
Yeah remember the George Floyd plushies?
Reminds me of the old adage: "Ya get what ya fcking deserve"
Even though I still think Heath Ledger’s Dark Knight Joker is the best one in the cinematic universe so far, Joaquin Phoenix’s portrayal of the Clown Prince of Crime is a close second since he pretty much became the way he was due to society treating him like shit for no actual reason other than they didn’t like him.
U git wot ye feckin desurve
lol yeah but censorship of the enemy is just as bad as censorship of our allies, censorship is still cringe and fucking retarded
Reminds me of my old adage:
You made your stinking, piss-stained bed, you can damn well lie in it.
@@DangleBlampy Not really considering that they probably broke the TOS of the company and promoted things that are against the TOS. I see this as a case of them breaking their rule and caused the company to refuse services to them as a punishment.
That and they used the banned word that describes a bunch of funny guys from 1940s Germany. Seriously, we can't even use that word to make fun of them anymore...
"it doesn't promote a terrorist group or activity"
declared domestic terrorists just earlier this year...
"Companies should be able to deplatform whoever they wish!"
>Companies deplatform them
*Shocked pikachu face*
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Thought the exact thing!
"but not me!!" - Antifa
“It doesn’t harass specific individuals”. 2 seconds later, specifically harasses Andy Ngo.
And any other Asian because they don't see any difference between adult Asian males and they often mistake random Asians for Andy Ngo.
it doesn't promote violence - the bike lock professor from Berkeley
andy ngo is an actual fraud though. you shouldnt be trying to use him as a defence, just as a warning, its sandy foundation
Andy Ngo deserves all the shit he gets
@@srebnywilczek7723 Lmao! "wE FiGht rAcIsM!"
"It doesn't glorify hate or violence" they say while "this hammer smashes facists" is on full display.
You couldn't make this shit up. I'm beginning to think they've been infiltrated by comedians
@Twisty Fresh "Smashing Facists" (as a kind of slogan) is bad? It's been fairly passe ever since Woody Guthrie performed with that on his guitar since the 40's, lol
@@thecynth3820 Irrelevant. They said they weren't glorifying violence, then they glorified violence.
@@thecynth3820 He didn't actually say it was a bad slogan. Just pointed out that claiming it doesn't glorify hate/violence is pretty ridiculous
@@thecynth3820 Antifa don't fight fascist though, they just call anyone who isn't a commie a fascist, then try and smash their head in with a bike lock. If antifa came across some real fascists, they wouldn't stand a chance, the only thing they would be able to do, is shit their pants.
this is the perfect example of the Surprised Pikachu face.
Remember communists, this is the world YOU wanted.
They aren't even communist at best they are Anarchists
@Joseph no, anarchists simply don't believe in governance.
No it is not lol
@@XxzanesterxX when right wingers get kicked off, they laugh "its a private company"
So now when left wingers get kicked off a _private company_ 's website, it *IS* the world they wanted.
@Joseph you are only ever as free as the person stronger than you allows. Might makes right, and you are *never* the strongest.
No one:
Antifa: IT's iN ouR NAme!!
The Democratic People's Republic of Korea: *coughs*
National Socialism
@@mobiusone6994 good sir, you are too fast
@@mobiusone6994 You mean the National Socialist German Workers' Party?
Wut
Except Teespring said they were banning the shirts.
Nobody jokes were never good and will never be good.
Come up with something original for once.
"It doesn't promote a terrorist group or activity."
See, that's where we're going to have to disagree.
Bait
"It doesn't promote a terrorist group or activity" -- *Is literally a terrorist group*
"literally".....?
Yes literally
@@lordqwertythepyromancer3458 Can you point me to some source that shows them to be literally that? Remember its "literally".
@@st8tesman will do
@@lordqwertythepyromancer3458 You literally gave me the dictionary definition, then you apply your opinion of Antifa and consider that to mean they are "literally" a terrorist group. If we all applied our opinions like that then everybody and everything would be a terrorist group, including this Trump
Administration.
"Doesn't promote illegal activities", proceeds to take over 4 blocks of downtown Seattle, where 4 people were murdered in.
It was six just to make it sound worse.
I love how they got the guts to say:
- It doesn't harass specific individuals (unless they prevent them from doing what they want).
- It doesn't glorify violence (except whenever the victim of said violence is someone they disagree with).
- It doesn't promote a terrorist group or activity (that's debatable at best).
Edit: "it doesn't promote *illegal activity"*
The *audacity* to say that when they encourage vandalism and doxxing...
There's no debate. They are a non-state actor that uses violence to push their political agenda. They are the very definition of a terrorist group. Now are they at the level of ISIS? No, not yet at lest, but that doesn't exempt them.
They don't have a lot of guts, they just lack a functioning brain.
So they should remove any and all Shirts with the Abrahamic religions on them for the very same reasons.
i am baffled by just the sheer and blatant idiocy of them whining about one of them getting shot. yeah well...that dumbass fired an assault rifle 5 times at someone...and MISSED. are you kidding me? anyone with a gun will return the favor, just because the guy with the rifle didn't know how to dodge just shows how dumb ssome of those antifa oiks are. eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth... Reap what you sow....idiots
@@TheJackelantern lol, nice bait.
Terrorists: "Its a private company! It can ban who it wants!"
Also Terrorists: *Does terrorist things.*
Also Terrorists: "WTF!? WHY ARE YOU BANNING ME!?"
I'm surprised that you didn't put the *Also Also* part.
"It doesn't harass specific individuals"
*Andy Ngo would like to know your location*
"It doesn't glorify harm/violence"
2 seconds later: **THIS HAMMER SMASHES FASCISTS**
i completely forgot about andy ngo
@@loserface3962 they've straight up been assaulting random Asian dudes that they confuse for Andy
@@Christopher-eq1rn thats terrible, the fact that they are still after him and that they think every asian is andy
@@loserface3962 Kinda racist if you ask me
@@danieleriksson5587 does the left care? nope. they just want to overthrow america and will use any means to do so
I am always amused about literal communists using fundraising tactics.
and getting pissy sissy because their literal enemy wont fundraise their stupidity
"HURR DURR WE WEELZ HANG DA MASSA WIHT THE ROPE THEYZ SEEL US AND DISTROEE DA STABLEEEZMUNT WITH HEES OWN TULZ...REEEE REEE HOWS DAT THAT U WONT SUPPORT US ANYMOAR REEEEEEE"
wont be more revolutionary to make teir own chains of supply?
When you hate big corporations, but still want them to make all your stuff.
Freedom of protest doesn't mean freedom from consequences.
You scrolled past them claiming that "This hammer smashes fashists" wasn't violent.
The doublespeak has reached peak levels.
So this means you can’t make an “Antifa Sucks” shirt either
Sounds about right... that's a bummer.
(Insert thanos dialog)
They said in the thread, read aloud by him: "...until we figure out the intent" So yes, you could do that.
Depends, that doesn't promote antifa, nor does it call for harm to come to them
Pantifa on the other hand...
The fact that they’re international means we don’t have to label them “domestic terrorists” which means GTMO, yeah?
"we call ourselves the anti-badguy squad and call anyone against us the bad guys. obviously anyone who doesn't like bad guys is a part of our group by definition."
All leftists use this tactic. "if you aren't a feminist you hate women", "if you don't support BLM, you hate black people" ect ect. I wish people wouldn't be guilt tripped into this stuff.
We should ask them how they like the taste of their own medicine
My cat’s mouth tastes like cat food.
@@drainer_333 Thats like saying genuine far-right extremists dont want an ethnostate or dont hate non-white people. Youre wrong
@@drainer_333 Question: where are these "genuine" antifa and how come they have let a huge group of "fake" antifa run rampant in the streets burning, looting, and murdering? Makes you question where this all good "genuine" group is.
@@arkoa0000 Exactly.
@@drainer_333 Yes, they do. Quit lying.
"It doesn't glorify violence!!"
**literally posts a picture of a shirt that says "this hammer smashes fascists" directly after"**
@Donald Trump Huh? How in the 7 hells does that have anything to do with what Avery Hyena said?
"Why are you protecting fascists huhuhu"
@Donald Trump Of course someone with Trump in their name is a dumbass. What a surprise
At least when classical liberals and libertarians advocate for free speech absolutism and equal treatment under the law, and then in the same breath advocate for the genocide of communists, the advocation is a JOKE and not a literal statement of what should be done.
@@FrozenPhotonX_X Nah, its a literal statement. Communists violate the NAP, and thus are fair game.
They are SEETHING because they are getting a taste of what we had to deal with since 2016
Since 2014-2015 really. I remember 2015 was considered the year EVERYONE got offended. How times have changed
@@Anthonybchannel It all comes full circle.
since gamergate at least
*"We are not an organization..."*
*"And here is what we would never do!"*
Whole lot of "we" for unaffiliated individuals.
My answer to "do you know what Antifa stands for?" Is always "do you know what the word Nazi stands for?"
Nazi is a made up word. It's got nothing to do with the NSDAP or Hitler. It's just a short catchy word some journalist in the English speaking world coined. It's meaningless from what I can tell.
@@Patrick-857 it's short for "National Socialist", - point is that a name is not a description, and very often names are misleading.
I've met an old lady I was helping with her groceries who could barely walk. She moved in with her kids because her little house was damaged in the riots and she didn't have the money to repair it. She moved two states over to mine to live with family and she was very insecure about being "useless" to her family, so she forced herself to go out and get groceries despite taking a hour to get back in her car, even with my assistance due to both her advanced age and past injuries. I made conversation with her as I helped her into her car and nice old ladies like her always have some stories. I know people who are involved in this Antifa shit and they'd straight pass over people like this because they legit think that the ends justify the means, keyboard warriors they are. That destruction of property is legitimate protest. Who deny that Antifa has ever attacked a person, that it's ironically "fake news". People like them would call my experience anecdotal and refuse to believe that they can do no wrong.
They don't work. They don't help people. They're concerned only with the dopamine they get for being "rebels". I've never hated people before meeting these fucks. They are legitimately fucking evil.
Good on you bro, glad you could help that lady.
We need to fight these satanic terrorist fucks by using intelligence and evidence to shift public opinion against these far left groups who just want to destroy instead of create.
The f*ck sticks are just LARPing as revolutionaries and are trying to convince everyone, especially themselves, that they are revolutionaries changing the world.
Thank you for getting this aspect out, it’s been so long since we’ve heard kindness and the best of humanity on here. Let’s be more like this.
@@aeroprime3322 Yep, their movement is going nowhere. The only thing they will achieve is helping Trump get a second term.
"This hammer smashes fascists" Really? That's not promoting and glorifying some violence at all /s. imagine if that said "This hammer smashes Democrats" "This hammer smashes republicans" and so on and so forth is basically a call to violence in and of itself against anything you perceive as fascists.
the words hammer and smash are sexist words used to promote the patriarchy...
our t-shirt "Doesn't promote violence or illegally activity"
so that hammer softly and kindly and LEGALLY smashes fascists?? How, pray tell, does it accomplish that?
This reminds me of Robespierre who sent loads of people to the guillotine, wonder what he thought when it was literally his head on the chopping block?
Probably said « putain de merde »
>"This hammer smashes fascists"
>"It doesn't glorify harm/violence"
Big hmmm
Anyone remember all the times we've all been saying that your rules can be used against you?
Welcome to your own paradise.
The term "this hammer smashes fascists" is inherently violent
And it's cultural appropriation of my heritage and culture
@@Klordz ok German
@@ms.antithesis I'm Norwegian
@@Klordz then your grandparents wherent members of the nazi party?
@@ms.antithesis they're talking about the runes on the shirt design, which is the old Norse alphabet
Dank: *explains antifa*
Me: That sounds like fascism with NO extra steps.
EXACTLY!!! the merriam-webster dictionary definition 2 of fascism is: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control. def #1 is a political philosophy, movement, or regime that often exalts nation and race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.
which is still kinda on point.
this is way different than what google says fascism is
They are essentially modern day brown shirts, a bunch of political thugs
I'm founding a group called "Good Guys Who Fight the Baddies." Join up, and be definitively justified in every conflict! That old lady definitely had it coming.
'No such thing as hate speech' well said, something I'll be remembering.
I love how immediately after saying it doesn't glorify violence they immediately show a shirt that says "This hammer smashes facists"
Chris Chan levels of self awareness
its like the whole left are becoming 'Dragon lord' ROFL... somebody who has about as much self awareness as a burning bush...
Ah well perhaps Antifa should not go about shutting down everything they disagree with.
Why does a grassroots non organized group that doesn't exist need funding? Where does that money go? Who decides what the money is spent on?
Why would a communist “not an organization” organization pay a capitalist business to manufacture their propaganda?
Aren’t they supposed to seize the means of production?
@@dogol284 It is as if THEY ARE PAID AND ORGANIZED PROFESSIONAL RIOTERS!?
It's like a Scooby-Doo mistery really
they are furious because once you take their superficial symbols from them how do you destinguish them from the thing they pretend to fight?
It's great to see people and companies coming out against Antifa!
I propose we start a new group called "The Sunshine and Smiles Brigade"
Or just "The SS Brigade" for short
I can picture it now, the logo could be a rainbow with 2 lightning shaped letter S under it
Genius comment, that got a laugh from me, lol
@@Daniel-wb4lr I need to whip that up in PS now lol
@@Moss_196 you spelled the Microsoft paint wrong
@@Daniel-wb4lr I mean... it even has their PRIDE flag! Of course it's left wing and therefore correct!
"It doesn't promote a terrorist group or activity."
*literally a terrorist organization in the US*
@@killdizzle They are a terrorist organisation by definition. Look up their history and what they did in Germany for quite a while in the 70s.
@@killdizzle It was *SPECIFICALLY* *_the obama regime_* who made that declaration in its First Hundred Days - much to the vehement *OBJECTION* of The Pentagon, the VA Hospital, the various Veteran's Advocacy NGOs and American Citizens in general.
This happened on a Monday briefing, never once challenged by _any_ element of pravda, as they are in open agreement and _willingly complicit_ in this condemnation. They then issued the standard non-apology apology on the Friday News Dump of that week that no one covered, but the damage as intended - to drive a *_wedge_* between American society and those of us who protect it - was done. Then he moved onto to attack law enforcement and other emergency services.
Classic PsyOps tactics in action. So, if a _"Dumb Grunt who jumped out of Perfectly Good Airplanes"_ like ME can see it . . .
What is everyone else's excuse?
"It doesn't promote a terrorist group or activity"
Yes, it does.
"it doesn't' glorify harm or violence"
NEXT IMAGE: "This hammer smashes fascists".
ORLY?
"Antifa" is to "Fascism" as "Inflammable" is to "Flammable."
As the Mountain Chicken shows us, you can call yourself whatever you want, but your appearance begs to differ.
How tf do you "look" like a fascist? And how can Antifa, a non organized reactionary movement to combat white supremacy and far right statolatry "look" fascist?
@@Zerklass A big militant group of people wearing black screaming and trying to assault people for having differing views.
@@fripplicious7466 the issue is that when it comes to militancy and how violent protesters are, y'all just so happen to focus on the ambiguous "antifa" boogeyman that has not killed a single person at least on american soil in the last 25 years, and yet right wing terrorists and objective fascists/white nationals have killed upwards of 329 people in that time frame. So it seems like your being very picky and selective for some reason.
@@Zerklass when did I say I was turning a blind eye to fascists? I fucking hate them, and I don't believe their groups should be about. But I don't think some nebulous organisation of angry young adults are going to make things better. Just because I criticize antifa doesn't mean I'm too busy to criticize other terrorist groups. It is also a fact of the matter that most far right terrorist attacks are unconnected and are spurred by a single fucked up individual rather than a big fucked up group.
@@fripplicious7466 So you're saying that the far right, who has organized militias like the Proud Boys and do organized attacks and lynchings are just mostly lone wolfs that do attacks on their own and don't reflect on the Conservative side of the isle at all, yet one professor with a bike lock hitting a dude in the head is indicative of the entire left wing reaction to institutional fascism and white supremacy? Sound hypocritical.
My point is that both the media and some malicious players seem to focus specifically on dubious "Antifa" claims because (in my opinion) the mere idea of "Anti Fascism" represents a threat to the imperialist and nationalistic nature that has been sown into (at least America) since it's inception and is in conflict with Capitalism that has profited off of both of these ideals. Even "Liberal" media will do this, because Neo Liberalism will always defend the status quo and side with fascism before allowing any kind of social democracy. The negative coverage is disproportional and this Scottish prick participates in this toxic dialogue regularly.
They have been classified as a terrorist movement, so why would any company make shirts for them?
the company would have to be identified as a terrorist sympathizing company and then the bigger brands or companies would not use them and they would lose business and customers.
All this salt is giving me kidney stones and it's totally worth it
The salt melts the snowflakes when they fall on my driveway.
I was hard as a boulder laughing my ass off at the salt
Antifa: “It doesn’t harass specific individuals.”
Me: What about Fascists?
Antifa: REEEEEEEEEEEEE
"fascists"
I won’t lie, the part where they said ”it doesn’t promote a terrorist group or activity” got a chuckle out of me.
Oh, that ending though...
"Muh private company!"
"The hammer that smashes antifa."
"If it was up to me, youd wear that god damn uniform the rest of your life." - Aldo "the Apache" Raines.
I'm a simple salt shaker, i see the word salt, i click
Bruh!
I give you:
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Out of a possible 10!
NaCl huh?
Okay Mr clever... Have a like.
"doesnt promote illegal activity" , "doesnt glorify harm/violence" - "this hammer smashes fascists"
"People's Republic of China" and "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" have "Republic" and "Democratic" in their names too, but they are neither democratic nor republics.
They censored so much to the point where they accidentally censored themselves LMAO GG
"It doesn't glorify harm or violence"
WTF!!! Does "Punch a nazi" sound familiar???
I do not like Nazi's -but- however they have a right to exist if Antifa can exist.
Edit: someone didn't like the qualifier "but". I can understand that.
I support what antifa says they're against ie: being against fascism. But they use the exact same fucking tactics as the people they claim to oppose. I'm very left leaning, but boy do a lot of the left make it hard to agree with em. I agree with a lot of the end goals, but i fucking hate how they go about getting that. I've been trashtalked by other people i agree with, just for criticizing the way they front the opinion. It's ridiculous. Everyone is so polarized now they can't see reason in any part of the spectrum anymore
@@runthemeows1197 Antifa isnt against fascism, they're just against *other people* employing fascism.
@skahead63 no argument here.
@@tomgl6684 corrected
Run The Meows yeah good intentions, but horrible execution
I'd counter argue that these Tshirts actually serve to finance a terrorist movement and their criminal activities, and as such the selling of their T-shirt should not be allowed. At least no NTFA affiliates should receive the proceeds.
>Antifa doesn't promote violence
>"This hammer smashes fascists"
Are you sure about that?
This will be perfect if someone now begins selling 'pantifa' shirts on that website.
"It's not porn."
Rule 34 Artists: "Challenge Accepted."
Havent shadbâse had a hand in that?
I remember when there wasn't a rule 34 to life
@@PeacefulJoint Ahhh i see
You forgot the saga of moldy locks.....
@@PeacefulJoint There's always been a rule 34. Haven't you seen some of the ancient roman murals?...
These people forget that private companies are a thing, much like everything else in reality. :)
I remember someone wise saying something close to the following,
"The laws and policies you strive for in order to silence your opposition, can and eventually will be used to silence YOU."
An official international page with a fundraiser for an organisation that doesn’t even exist. Crazy.
I keep coming back to this video
*"It doesn't harass specific individuals."*
I'll take Richard Spencer for 400, Alex.
also Andy Ngo
Also old ladies
Never thought id see people defend Richard Spencer.
@@MCHellshit and other Asians that look vaguely like him
@@Iberianlobo Some people believe that you shouldn't attack people just because you don't agree with them.
"Antifa is _clearly_ anti-fascist. It's in the name."
Cool. Then I assume you'll also agree that the National Socialist German Worker's Party were socialists. Thanks for playing. :)
The irony is antifa members like to wear a red arm band with a white circle on it.
The Fascists of the Future Will Call Themselves Anti-Fascists(c)
Guys I dont get it
North Korea is a Democratic Republic why does everyone hate them
In fairness, there is not a lot of difference between fascism and socialism. Both are totalitarian forms of government with little wiggle room for the individual between what is compulsory and what is forbidden* (although, Socialism is further to the left**, than Fascism). Under fascism, private companies are heavily regulated to the point that the State does not actually have to nationalize them (FDR's New Deal is a good example of fascist economic policy, and may even be an example of good fascist economic policy [this is subject to much debate]). In many ways, fascism makes for stronger economies than socialism, as the people that built up capital are the best ones to figure out how to properly apply it. Allowing individuals to enjoy property rights does put some limits on the power of the State, but the increased wealth is worth it, as wealth is not a zero-sum game, so the State is more powerful, despite not holding all of the power.
Fascism is just Socialism with some property rights. Those workers that still had jobs did very well under FDR's New Deal, so the NSDAP was close enough to Socialist for most workers' points of view and different enough from socialism to allay the fears of the wealthy. The most important aspect of the NSDAP was that, unlike the other socialist parties, the NSDAP was a party of Germans for Germans, while the socialists were unabashedly advocating becoming another Soviet Socialist Republic answering to Moscow.
* Admittedly, going by Beria's boast "Show me the man and I will show you the crime", you could believe that Stalin went too far, as Beria is suggesting that Socialism could declare some things to be both compulsory AND forbidden, so any potential troublemaker could be immediately taken off of the streets and dealt with.
** I am trying to advance a new definition of the political spectrum. The spectrum should be a sliding scale of the balance between the rights of the Individual and the power of the State. On the extreme left is Socialism, where the State wields all power and the Individual has no rights. On the extreme right is Anarchy, where the rights of the Individual are paramount, due to the non-existence of the State. Communism is not on this spectrum as Communism is the Platonic ideal of an ordered society, while Anarchy, Socialism, and everything in between are shadows cast on the walls of Plato's Cave by Communism.
[bad math inspired pun]
Political Science is complex, because people are real and Communism is imaginary.
[/bad math inspired pun]
@@richardbell7678 Ill have to disagree on the New deal being a Fascist economic policy, mostly because a hallmark of the Fascist economy being that all major businessmen are made into party members or at least party collaborators, its purpose is to increase party control over the economy without the need for central planning.
While FDR did heavily regulate the economy, he didnt do this to turn businessmen into democratic party members and collaborators. Businessmen were still allowed to be politically opposed to the democratic party, and i dont know of any instances where businesses were oppropriated due to the owner doing an insufficient job.
"it doesn't promote a terrorist group or activity"
except it does
"It doesn't glorify harm/violence"
WRONG
"It doesn't promote a terrorist group or activity"
WRONG
"It doesn't promote illegal activity"
WRONG
-This hammer smashes fascists!
-Not promoting violence or harassment
Aren't they aware that what they say on their T-Shirts could be considered that? xD
But it's not violence if it's against fascists, don't you understand? They're subhuman because they dehumanize and brutalize minorities. Smashing fascists is justice, not violence
@@max8m1 Everyone I disagree with is a fascist.
@@perovwellyz560 I mean, if people disagree with being anti-fascist...
@@max8m1 I guess everyone who disagrees with the Democratic Republic of North Korea is anti democratic 😂
@@borrburison648 Finally someone speaking some sense
The word play in action: the Democratic Party has the word “Democratic” in it.
National democratic people's republic of Korea...aka North Korea.... Neither democratic, nor a republic, not even for or by the people...
Antifa: It doesn't glorify violence
Shirt: This hammer smashes fascists
Even in the most "their-way" interpretation: Cause does not justify. beeing anti-x does not do anything for you. Beeing anti homeless orphans does not mean buldozing a retirement-home with the people in it to build an orphanage is suddenly a nice thing and not murder.
Hoist by their own petard. Reminds me of that song... "you do it to yourself, just you, that's why it really hurts."
Virtuoso maestro Count dank, dead center in his sweetspot! Pure poetry. Perfection.
The left: bans everything in existence
The left: why are we getting banned
This is the beginning of the end... of company pandering
Oh I so hope so. Took them long enough to realise it isn't profitable if it is the end lol
oh gods i hope so.
If only we were so lucky
Could be
Teespring has banned several “right wingers”, and I had purchased an Umami plush for my kid and they emailed me a survey. I very politely explained that Teespring endorsing a political ideation was bad business and I wouldn’t be shopping with them in future.
Reminds me of a recent charity art pack that kept getting dropped by hosting sites, except they actually went and made a site of their own to host it.
That idea that violence is not a legitimate response and must be stamped out is itself a false assumption.
Although I'm happy they can't sell them there, I feel like they should be able to, no matter how much I dislike them.
Well isn't that the whole point of freedom of expression?
They are a domestic terrorist organization so, no, even the most extreme libertarian can't make an argument that they "should" be allowed lol
@@Sarah27H Fair point. I don't know who the people are that control TeeSpring, but if they hold their political opinion higher than their company, this could lead to political censorship on their platform. Of course, the chance is this is rather slim.
@@NorthEevee they already removed Sargon of Akkad's store and plenty others over political shit.
They hate when they have to live by their own rules lol beautiful!!!!
“It doesn’t glory harm/violence” *bust guy in the head with bike lock*
An organization that wants to ban others is shocked when it is banned! Priceless lack of self awareness! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Surely they can call up one of their generous corporate sponsors and get them to print the tshirts.
I'm going to start a group called "never wrong" and we'll do whatever we want, if you've got a problem with us, you must be wrong, because as our name clearly implies, we are clearly correct and just in all we do
Someone should do a parody Anteefa shirt, they hate when you don't pronounce it 'correctly' 😂
Oh nooooooooooo.
Maybe ANTIFA shouldn't support violence and censorship then... you reap what you sow.
Thanks Dank. I'm seriously on edge right now & your injections of humour really help to bring me back to earth.
"It doesn't promote a terrorist group"
Dude.