@@rabd3721 Yes and also remember her outtie's father mentioned that she is the exact reason Lumon went with the idea of these chips in the first place. He said when he brought the chip home she mentioned to him that everyone should have one. That makes Helly's outtie the actual main villain of the whole show and the source of their pain and punishment. Very interesting dynamic.
@@Friendsshareits sad cuz Helena might be the main villain but shes just as much a victim as the rest of them. Her father probably guilt trips her and manipulates her abt the chip idea, being all like “you were the one to convince me to use it” so now she thinks shes responsible for it and because she supported it into existence she needs to follow through with it even if shes starting to doubt it.
what an astute observation! if only there was a scene that showed her being one of the highest authoritative figures in Lumon at the end of the season, guess we'll have to continue speculating..
The brilliance of this script is that even though Helly's outie seems so evil and out of touch with reality during this scene, the final episode recontextualizes it brilliantly to the point that it makes sense she would be acting this way.
SPOILER OUTIE HELLY(HELENA) IS SCARY AND EVIL. SHE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT ANYONE DOWN THERE AND HAS LITTLE REGARD FOR HER INNIE WHATSOEVER. CAN NOT WAIT TO SEE HELENA IN S2 SHE WILL BE THE MAIN VILLAIN
What? It gives additional context to show exactly how evil and out of touch she is, but it doesn't recontextualize or make her seem any less evil or out of touch.
@@radicalstanza3614they're talking about recontextualizing the scene that is being shown in the clip, it gives the clip a whole other meaning after knowing who she was at the end. now we understand the motive of why she is so cold instead of her just being someone who doesn't want to experience working, it's shown that her motives goes far beyond that.
@@faiznasruddin6596 obviously it provides additional information to the thing we didn't have much information about. That goes without saying. It gives actual context the way any scene elaborating on anything does. It doesn't recontextualize or change the meaning of the original scene.
I find it so intriguing that out of all the innies there, Helly is by far the most rebellious of them all, her leadership and persistence when she was one deemed that she won’t be a lamb and settle down to become some stranger’s (herself) working persona and let outie live a comfortable workless life. Helen doesn’t take anyone’s shit, but somehow expects helly do? That is next level arrogance, very narcissistic to the point that she will insult other side of herself😂
It probably has to do with her subconscious playing a huge factor in this. Since her outie is involved with the company and is the CEO’s daughter she knows there is a sinister agenda going on with the company. Even with her memories wiped out her intuition is telling her this is wrong!
Also it kind of plays with my mind a bit with me thinking the middle men like Milchick and ms.Cobel would deny the request for resignation in a sort of bueacratic way where they just hide the resignation request but no, they actually deliver it quickly to the outtie and a real swift reply comes back to them within a day. There is very little in terms of corruption on that specific front.
That scene was the most chilling in the show to me. The whole time Helly had been sure if only she could communicate with her outie everything would be cleared up, and then... this.
Really looking forward to seeing more of Helly's outie next season. There's massive potential in a storyline where a rich and powerful woman is being undermined by "herself" trying to destroy her. The twist of revealing Helly's outie was genius and I know the writers will take it to interesting places
They are wearing the same clothes. Meaning outie Helly recorded this right before she went down the elevator for her work day. Kind of a small detail but adds to the scene.
@@user2008mar it's been a while since I watched. But I think she goes up the elevator after threatening to cut her fingers. Then comes back to work the next day, makes the recording, and goes down elevator. This is all pointing to the clothes she is wearing. What makes you think she recorded it the previous day she is watching this if she is wearing the same exact clothes.
More like if the last season of Orange is the New Black and The Office has a baby. There is a very real traumatic inducing prison vibe, considering they are now stuck in a room
I was convinced this was a deep fake because it was so absurdly evil. It was only later in the season that I realized this was real, once you realize exactly what kind of person Helena Egan is.
I'm 9 months late, but the best part to this for me is that even though you're cheering on the innie version of Helena the whole time, they make how she is in the real world make complete sense based on her character, even though it's such a stark contrast
I realise that the series basically also says that you should be kind to yourself but furthermore your past-self because you are as different in comparison to your past-self as an innie to his outtie.
Hmmm I just noticed she said Ms. Cobel. Every innie and outie knows Milcheck, but they have not established that for Cobel. Mark's outie knows Cobel and Selvig. Curious.
If anyone is curious about what TV that is its a Sony Trinitron KX-1901a! Part of the Sony Profeel a line of prosumer TV sets from the 80s that was very very expensive at the time. They are super cool!
From what I understand, the outies do not realize just how useless they are to society. They believe they are in control and have given absurd amounts of trust to a company that will assuredly replace the outie with another innie that will be rented by the company to any number of other companies at their soonest convenience.
The way Helena threatening Helly about regret make me wonder if Helena regret it when Helly later hung her up? Helena definitely feel it because the elevator was on ground floor before it getting back down.
Why don't they all just say fuck it and just lie around all day not doing any work? If they try punishing you in that room, just sit there and chill, don't repeat any words.
Love the show, but the whole point of the experiment is to have a productive person working away doing awful tasks while the other side of you only experienced the great parts of life. I just don’t see how they could stop the condemned side of you from killing or harming themselves. This video certainly wouldn’t stop me. Nothing they could do to you would actually stop any of this. Locking you up in a padded room means you’re not working. Sedating you…same problem. Even torture eventually creates a shell of a human who can’t function or work. Ultimately it’s lose lose for the innie anyway. They pull the plug and turn the whole brain back over to the outside you, you’re dead. You kill yourself, you and the outie die. So what’s the difference?
With deepfaking and elevenlabs voice cloning, it's going to be hard to believe scenes like this could be their legitimate selves even if that's in the script.
i bet it is the other way around!!! Helena is NOT a person. Helly is. they tried to suppress her personality to make her a better future head of the company.
I don’t know what you’re complaining about chunchunmaru. Being a housewife is a wonderful thing and not all of us are lucky enough to be given that chance at a job that literally only asks you to care for others. I chose this life. I will be fine. I live an abnormal life so others can have some semblance of normalcy. Not for fame or some stupid reason. If I could I wouldn’t even take off my mask unless I am at home. That’s how much I hate the position I am being put in right now. Fame is a fickle friend anyway. I wanted to just drive one person nuts for the rest of my life. Now I can’t. But you can. Don’t waste it.
Severance is the best thing that happened to the franchise since the beginning of the season when they were still on strike and they were still playing in their prime but they were not able to get the job done
This woman is really brave to give her body every day to a person who hates her
Her outtie is so committed to the vision of Lumon, that she's willing to risk her innie ending her life. It's a pretty effective cult.
@@rabd3721 Yes and also remember her outtie's father mentioned that she is the exact reason Lumon went with the idea of these chips in the first place. He said when he brought the chip home she mentioned to him that everyone should have one. That makes Helly's outtie the actual main villain of the whole show and the source of their pain and punishment. Very interesting dynamic.
@@Friendsshareits sad cuz Helena might be the main villain but shes just as much a victim as the rest of them. Her father probably guilt trips her and manipulates her abt the chip idea, being all like “you were the one to convince me to use it” so now she thinks shes responsible for it and because she supported it into existence she needs to follow through with it even if shes starting to doubt it.
@@Friendssharenah they would have been drafting the ideo for use on potential employees waayyy before some kid said they want everyone to have it,
This hits hard. Nothing like getting denied by your own self.
One of the most heartbreaking scenes
“I am my own worst enemy”
This is the inner dialogue of the suicidal brain
This is real terror. What an incredible feeling this show gives us.
if self-hate was a person 🥴
AKA me.
"Turn it off" as a command. A normal person would request that, but her outie has authority
for real? She is the daugther of the CEO. Have you not seen it? Ofc she has an authority, cause her name is Helena Fucking EAGAN, the next CEO.
what an astute observation! if only there was a scene that showed her being one of the highest authoritative figures in Lumon at the end of the season, guess we'll have to continue speculating..
The brilliance of this script is that even though Helly's outie seems so evil and out of touch with reality during this scene, the final episode recontextualizes it brilliantly to the point that it makes sense she would be acting this way.
SPOILER
OUTIE HELLY(HELENA) IS SCARY AND EVIL. SHE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT ANYONE DOWN THERE AND HAS LITTLE REGARD FOR HER INNIE WHATSOEVER. CAN NOT WAIT TO SEE HELENA IN S2 SHE WILL BE THE MAIN VILLAIN
What? It gives additional context to show exactly how evil and out of touch she is, but it doesn't recontextualize or make her seem any less evil or out of touch.
@@radicalstanza3614they're talking about recontextualizing the scene that is being shown in the clip, it gives the clip a whole other meaning after knowing who she was at the end. now we understand the motive of why she is so cold instead of her just being someone who doesn't want to experience working, it's shown that her motives goes far beyond that.
@@faiznasruddin6596 obviously it provides additional information to the thing we didn't have much information about. That goes without saying. It gives actual context the way any scene elaborating on anything does. It doesn't recontextualize or change the meaning of the original scene.
I find it so intriguing that out of all the innies there, Helly is by far the most rebellious of them all, her leadership and persistence when she was one deemed that she won’t be a lamb and settle down to become some stranger’s (herself) working persona and let outie live a comfortable workless life. Helen doesn’t take anyone’s shit, but somehow expects helly do? That is next level arrogance, very narcissistic to the point that she will insult other side of herself😂
It probably has to do with her subconscious playing a huge factor in this. Since her outie is involved with the company and is the CEO’s daughter she knows there is a sinister agenda going on with the company. Even with her memories wiped out her intuition is telling her this is wrong!
@jon6309 i dont think so. Her situation is unbearable to her, so she wants out. It doesnt need to be more complex than that
This is my favorite scene in the entire series up till that point. It's absolutely CHILLING. Unimaginable. .
Also it kind of plays with my mind a bit with me thinking the middle men like Milchick and ms.Cobel would deny the request for resignation in a sort of bueacratic way where they just hide the resignation request but no, they actually deliver it quickly to the outtie and a real swift reply comes back to them within a day. There is very little in terms of corruption on that specific front.
My favorite part was during the speech at the Gala when Helle’s innie ruined her!
That scene was the most chilling in the show to me. The whole time Helly had been sure if only she could communicate with her outie everything would be cleared up, and then... this.
One of the most chilling scenes of any show in the last 10 years, in my opinion. Very well-written and executed.
Really looking forward to seeing more of Helly's outie next season. There's massive potential in a storyline where a rich and powerful woman is being undermined by "herself" trying to destroy her. The twist of revealing Helly's outie was genius and I know the writers will take it to interesting places
They are wearing the same clothes. Meaning outie Helly recorded this right before she went down the elevator for her work day. Kind of a small detail but adds to the scene.
Good catch!
no outie helly recorded it after innie helly went up the elevator to go home
@@user2008mar possible but I don't think she'd be wearing the exact same clothes the next day.
@@jstdun she didn’t record it the next day, she likely recorded it right after her shift ended so at around 5-6 o clock that same day
@@user2008mar it's been a while since I watched. But I think she goes up the elevator after threatening to cut her fingers. Then comes back to work the next day, makes the recording, and goes down elevator. This is all pointing to the clothes she is wearing. What makes you think she recorded it the previous day she is watching this if she is wearing the same exact clothes.
If The Twilight Zone and The Office had a baby ... it would be Severance.
More like if the last season of Orange is the New Black and The Office has a baby. There is a very real traumatic inducing prison vibe, considering they are now stuck in a room
...and it would be raised by Black Mirror
I was convinced this was a deep fake because it was so absurdly evil. It was only later in the season that I realized this was real, once you realize exactly what kind of person Helena Egan is.
I'm 9 months late, but the best part to this for me is that even though you're cheering on the innie version of Helena the whole time, they make how she is in the real world make complete sense based on her character, even though it's such a stark contrast
This is like a new version of hell.
I realise that the series basically also says that you should be kind to yourself but furthermore your past-self because you are as different in comparison to your past-self as an innie to his outtie.
Such a mind melter.
The symbolism of this scene goes directly to the heart of every corporate drone who's at war with themselves.
*Sigh* Okay I'll watch Severance again -- thank God Season 2 is finally back on it's way to us!
The irony of making the employee most opposed to Lumen in the family of the creators is crazy
"If you ever do anything to my fingers, know that I will keep you alive long enough to horribly regret that."
Next day: Paints her nails.
She can't understand why her real self won't let her out. Great story line.
"Everyone has to except reality." *doesn't want to except own reality*
ACCEPT
C'mon human resources. How do you butcher a word TWICE?
You’ve had that UA-cam account for almost two decades. I salute you
Helly micro facial expression went from exited and curious to mad to desperate
Hmmm I just noticed she said Ms. Cobel. Every innie and outie knows Milcheck, but they have not established that for Cobel. Mark's outie knows Cobel and Selvig. Curious.
This is the inner dialogue of the suicidal brain
I felt so bad for her during this scene…and I probably would’ve reacted the same way.
this hits differently rewatching the first season
Totall Recall!
If anyone is curious about what TV that is its a Sony Trinitron KX-1901a! Part of the Sony Profeel a line of prosumer TV sets from the 80s that was very very expensive at the time. They are super cool!
From what I understand, the outies do not realize just how useless they are to society. They believe they are in control and have given absurd amounts of trust to a company that will assuredly replace the outie with another innie that will be rented by the company to any number of other companies at their soonest convenience.
I can´t imagine how hard integration would be for these two....
Knowing the truth about Hellie damn makes me sick
I would have my coworkers remove my fingers anyways or I'd kill myself if my outtie says that to me.
The way Helena threatening Helly about regret make me wonder if Helena regret it when Helly later hung her up? Helena definitely feel it because the elevator was on ground floor before it getting back down.
yoooooo
Knowing nothing of this movie, this might have been the wrong clip to start with.
I think Helena in "real world" is evil and knows about her father plans
Not only she knows, she is in it.
Why don't they all just say fuck it and just lie around all day not doing any work? If they try punishing you in that room, just sit there and chill, don't repeat any words.
Ye it was stupid in that part and a weird plothole but I guess you could say they are childs being recently borned, they just do as they get ask
It took her over a thousand tries and she probably tried this during that. You can't do nothing forever.
@@occono3543 Yeah but the company can’t thrive without employees forever.
One of a Charakters Had a Red Hand after the room. I don't think they Just repeat words there.
@@spenser9908 Maybe it can, we have no clue what their job actually is.
Love the show, but the whole point of the experiment is to have a productive person working away doing awful tasks while the other side of you only experienced the great parts of life.
I just don’t see how they could stop the condemned side of you from killing or harming themselves. This video certainly wouldn’t stop me. Nothing they could do to you would actually stop any of this. Locking you up in a padded room means you’re not working. Sedating you…same problem. Even torture eventually creates a shell of a human who can’t function or work.
Ultimately it’s lose lose for the innie anyway. They pull the plug and turn the whole brain back over to the outside you, you’re dead. You kill yourself, you and the outie die. So what’s the difference?
With deepfaking and elevenlabs voice cloning, it's going to be hard to believe scenes like this could be their legitimate selves even if that's in the script.
right?!
i bet it is the other way around!!! Helena is NOT a person. Helly is. they tried to suppress her personality to make her a better future head of the company.
Doesn’t work Helly realize that without severance she doesn’t exist?
If you hate your existence, it doesn't matter. I think that's where Helly is coming from
She literally tries to kill herself, I don't think she cares lol
Don't you mean doesn't play Helly realize this? Work Helly can kill them both.
She doesn’t care
her life is literally meaningless
I don’t know what you’re complaining about chunchunmaru. Being a housewife is a wonderful thing and not all of us are lucky enough to be given that chance at a job that literally only asks you to care for others. I chose this life. I will be fine. I live an abnormal life so others can have some semblance of normalcy. Not for fame or some stupid reason. If I could I wouldn’t even take off my mask unless I am at home. That’s how much I hate the position I am being put in right now. Fame is a fickle friend anyway. I wanted to just drive one person nuts for the rest of my life. Now I can’t. But you can. Don’t waste it.
I dont understand
Be kind to yourself.
Severance is the best thing that happened to the franchise since the beginning of the season when they were still on strike and they were still playing in their prime but they were not able to get the job done
As someone who never watched severance, i have no idea what's this all about 🫠