Why Everyone Hates Half-Life: Source

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  • Опубліковано 21 гру 2024

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  • @RichterOvertime
    @RichterOvertime  Рік тому +969

    Today's the 25th anniversary of Half-Life 1 and Valve has now officially de-listed Half-Life: Source from Steam
    Pretend I put a Breaking Bad walter white "I won" gif here or something lmao

    • @hyperhypa
      @hyperhypa Рік тому +48

      Because of this video, I have bought the game and I'm going to play it as my first half-life game. Also, apparently you can still buy from a bundle and it gives both Half-Life: Source and Half-Life Deathmatch: Source.

    • @Ne_Ne_Vova_UA
      @Ne_Ne_Vova_UA Рік тому +4

      I've bought every hl game, and playing for the first time, should i take my money for hl source and hl deathmatch source?

    • @swlchl
      @swlchl Рік тому +6

      I just came back to this video after this happened to see what people would say!

    • @Ne_Ne_Vova_UA
      @Ne_Ne_Vova_UA Рік тому +1

      @@showey no, i haven't gmod

    • @meric12131415
      @meric12131415 Рік тому

      ​@@TaxiCabColeyou sure that was the reason so modders can still use it?

  • @sparkywilson1405
    @sparkywilson1405 Рік тому +438

    5:30: If that's what the milk looks like at the store in your area I would be VERY concerned

    • @brayantgnomez6102
      @brayantgnomez6102 23 дні тому +4

      @@sparkywilson1405 milk is supposed to be spoiled for the best health benefits

    • @arilsandyawan8083
      @arilsandyawan8083 13 днів тому

      @@brayantgnomez6102 proof?

    • @writershard5065
      @writershard5065 13 днів тому +1

      I was gonna say, that looks like milk with a healthy dose of algae.

  • @newfleshrecords
    @newfleshrecords 2 роки тому +40

    @5:30 I am very confused as to how a reservoir filled with opaque, dark green slime is deemed "milk-like".

  • @Silverman160Zero
    @Silverman160Zero 2 роки тому +4670

    For as careful as Ross was when making Freeman’s Mind, I still remember a bug where a security guard's body fell through a grate in a hall. He played it off but I forgot how.

    • @numnaut1314
      @numnaut1314 2 роки тому +428

      Don't forget the hopping houndeye, that was funny.

    • @SourGummiWyrm69
      @SourGummiWyrm69 2 роки тому +466

      @@numnaut1314 "Today's lesson is on muzzle energy and momentum!" as it does a springboard jump into the green soup below the catwalk

    • @Guymanbot97
      @Guymanbot97 2 роки тому +340

      @@numnaut1314 "Yeah go do your little dance, you freak!"
      Probably one of the lines that sticks in my head the most from that series.

    • @DSaC_
      @DSaC_ 2 роки тому +207

      He legit just looked away really quickly and continued as if he saw nothing.

    • @CatsT.M
      @CatsT.M 2 роки тому +129

      Episode 47, he killed a Barney and just looked away to shoot some H.E.C.U

  • @jimbo2revengeance
    @jimbo2revengeance 2 роки тому +1689

    There was a specific point in time, circa 2006, where Half-Life GoldSRC was barely compatible with most newline GPU's, due to it's dependencies on old obsolete drivers, and Half-Life: Source was the main way to play. What a lot of people don't realize, that the reason HL1 runs so well nowadays, is because Valve actually went back, and kept updating it.

    • @Josh-le6lu
      @Josh-le6lu Рік тому +23

      I remember that but as recently as 2010.

    • @jimbo2revengeance
      @jimbo2revengeance Рік тому +54

      @@Josh-le6lu Could be, the steam pipe update launched around 2012-15, and honestly i have no idea when the Half-Life update happened.

    • @RUNTER_18
      @RUNTER_18 Рік тому +6

      i got a trashy old computer so i should be fine

    • @Thecactuar
      @Thecactuar Рік тому +11

      @@RUNTER_18yeah, they fixed those issues a long, long time ago.

    • @meric12131415
      @meric12131415 Рік тому +5

      ​@@RUNTER_18ah you got a potato fantastic enjoy it man😁

  • @waspennator
    @waspennator Рік тому +93

    Looks like valve is pushing hl source off to the side to fix up the og version

  • @F_I_J_I_W_A_T_E_R
    @F_I_J_I_W_A_T_E_R 2 роки тому +544

    The HD models being lifted from a GameBanana mod is the real icing on the cake.

  • @DaRealBruner
    @DaRealBruner 2 роки тому +1019

    I love how for some random reason, the viewmodel for the pistol gives Gordon these red triangles on his fingers instead of orange. I'm guessing Valve did a lil' dumdum and accidentally used like an early viewmodel texture on the hands, since in some pre-release screenshots, you can see the suit was originally red.

    • @havoc3-243
      @havoc3-243 2 роки тому +67

      Yep, and there's a lot of pre-release leftover assets in Half-Life Source. Such as textures for a dumpster model.

    • @kebab_hill
      @kebab_hill 2 роки тому +10

      These red models are also found inside the models folder in Half-Life, not to mention the SDK

    • @CourierSiix
      @CourierSiix Рік тому

      ​@goobelius.gjoobertwrong

    • @creepersammyb2926
      @creepersammyb2926 Місяць тому

      I actually like the red triangles

  • @Echo-22-538
    @Echo-22-538 2 роки тому +26

    3:27
    That's not Half Life 2, that's Half Life Squared.

  • @Austen54
    @Austen54 2 роки тому +3327

    i hope the game isn't ever fixed I love seeing all the strange bugs as the game decays over time

    • @AnnaSue81
      @AnnaSue81 2 роки тому +63

      @Inhuman the literal

    • @SlumpDrunko
      @SlumpDrunko 2 роки тому +232

      Truly the real Half-Life Decay was the game we broke along the way

    • @newolku
      @newolku 2 роки тому +72

      It's in the name. Half life

    • @Giygas-c5n
      @Giygas-c5n 2 роки тому +4

      I agree

    • @El_Descarriado
      @El_Descarriado 2 роки тому +62

      Gabe finally got his real-time moss.
      Except instead of moss, it's degenerating code.

  • @kakokapolei123
    @kakokapolei123 Рік тому +61

    My first introduction to HL:S was through Freeman’s Mind. Before that, I was playing Half-Life on the PS2. What made it really stand out to me was the ragdoll physics, and 10 year old me thought that was the coolest thing ever, and is probably what kicked off my love for good ragdoll physics. Imo, the fact that bodies could just limp over and die instead of reusing the same 3-4 death animations is worth pushing past all the bugs.

    • @Unethical.FandubsGames
      @Unethical.FandubsGames 6 місяців тому

      I used to enjoy playing games in the PS2 era simply for the janky physics. I remember being enamored with the ragdolls of Hitman. Good times.

  • @rasputin15832
    @rasputin15832 2 роки тому +908

    The Source: fixed mod does a great job at fixing it and it's really an amazing way to play the game

    • @STAIR_WAY14
      @STAIR_WAY14 2 роки тому +11

      How to download it?

    • @STAIR_WAY14
      @STAIR_WAY14 2 роки тому +8

      @@rasputin15832 thx bro, i needed this

    • @jtsuxatgames
      @jtsuxatgames 2 роки тому +60

      I love HL:S Fixed. I have a lot of nostalgia attached to Half-Life: Source, as it was the first HL game I ever played back when I was a kid. I remember when I played it, it wasn't nearly as buggy and broken as it is now. I don't know what the hell happened to it but it's clear Valve doesn't really care about it anymore as much as it does the other HL games. HL:S Fixed fixes nearly everything wrong with HL:S and I love it.

    • @SirYodaJedi
      @SirYodaJedi 2 роки тому +25

      I appreciate the effort the modders put into fixing the game, but Half-Life: Source just isn't Half-Life: Source without all the bugs. There's something charming about the jank that makes it more fun to play and laugh at. It's a case of being so bad it's good, I guess. If I wanted a stable version of Half-Life with prettier graphics, I'd probably use Xash.

    • @christiangottsacker6932
      @christiangottsacker6932 2 роки тому +17

      @@jtsuxatgames i think a major part of why it gets jankier is when steam updates all source games, they dont even touch HL source. So it gets the tweaks to the engine but essentially for every other game and it confuses tf out of HL. Thus it looks and acts horrible.

  • @stevensonbak
    @stevensonbak 2 роки тому +32

    Appreciate the video, and greatly appreciate the nod to Cortex Command at 5:20 with the music choice!
    Talk about projects that didn't get enough love, amirite?

    • @GamingBlarg
      @GamingBlarg Рік тому +2

      Fucking hell thank you mate, was dying trying to remember what the song was

  • @RainingMetal
    @RainingMetal 2 роки тому +1092

    When I was a kid, we had a computer that wasn't just bad, it was uniquely bad. It could technically run Half-Life and Half-Life 2, but the former would inexplicably crash during loading sessions (except Opposing Force because that game loaded its levels differently). So I was hoping Half-Life: Source would be a technical remake of Half-Life on the Source Engine, much like what we have with Black Mesa today. When I played Half-Life: Source at a LAN Party service, I got this. I was expecting so much more (but at least you could load at the start of each chapter without using the console commands). Later I would discover that swinging the crowbar during the loading sessions would guarantee the game wouldn't crash.
    Later we got a computer that could actually run games and had decent specs for gaming, which negated this issue. But this was my first exposure to Half-Life: Source. I dodged a bullet by not buying it.

    • @portospl8781
      @portospl8781 2 роки тому +1

      "i dodged a bullet by not buying" what do yo mean????? Half-Life Source is the greatest gaming achievment ever. Our lord and saviour Valve created yet another masterpiece that they update liek every single fucking day. Half life source is a 10 out of 10 and you're pretending like its a broken shitty game for 9 USD no its not you dumbass. If you don't like half life source then you have atleast 17 IQ and should cry in your shame that you didn't buy half life sorse.

    • @mariosskl8347
      @mariosskl8347 2 роки тому +17

      Similar experience here but with CS instead of Half Life. Had a horrible laptop and CS: Source would actually run better than the original Counter Strike for whatever ungodly reason.

    • @RainingMetal
      @RainingMetal 2 роки тому +7

      @@mariosskl8347 That is baffling. Although with our crappy computer it could only render in Software mode, so the UI models were stuck as left-handed. With CS: Source the game still ran like crap but we had access to right-handed models.

    • @edfreak9001
      @edfreak9001 2 роки тому +20

      As annoying as it surely is to have to work around such limitations part of me adores the whimsical quality of solutions like "I can continue playing the game semi normally if I just remember to swing the crowbar when walking into level transitions"
      like what the fuck could the game possibly by doing where that's the difference maker

    • @oz_jones
      @oz_jones Рік тому +7

      "When in doubt, apply crowbar"

  • @dgSolidarity
    @dgSolidarity 2 роки тому +9

    9:47 “Hate the parent, not the child” is what I’m hearing.

  • @delta9685
    @delta9685 2 роки тому +457

    I actually was disappointed with the fact that Blue Shift and Opposing Force didn't have their own Source versions, simply because I wanted to play them in Gmod.

    • @maesterdanteamadeus444
      @maesterdanteamadeus444 2 роки тому +23

      Yeah, this is something that also annoyed me when I got it bundled with every other Valve game.

    • @quantizedanson
      @quantizedanson 2 роки тому +37

      Black Mesa is getting a Blue Shift mod, keep an eye out

    • @Rookie417
      @Rookie417 2 роки тому +15

      @@quantizedansonit came out already just not complete now only up to I think chapter 4 and of has some parts ported

    • @hat9527
      @hat9527 Рік тому +9

      @@quantizedanson you cant play that in gmod, that was kinda their point :P

    • @poudink5791
      @poudink5791 Рік тому +5

      @@hat9527 Really? It's still Source, so it should work in gmod.

  • @Slosten
    @Slosten 2 роки тому +6

    I love how as soon as you mentioned Gman Squad, my mind instantly went to the scene with the trip mines, and just as I was about to write a comment about it I got to the end where you included a clip of that exact scene.

  • @whoisanarnb
    @whoisanarnb 2 роки тому +444

    The iconic floating scientist

    • @fartedlitterbox
      @fartedlitterbox 2 роки тому +16

      Ah yes, he was born to fly (only on the Source Engine though)

    • @whoisanarnb
      @whoisanarnb 2 роки тому +44

      @@fartedlitterbox Born to Fly, Forced to Sit

    • @DeepseaOddities
      @DeepseaOddities 2 роки тому +8

      When I played HL:S the Gonarch was unkillable. Like you literally couldn't kill her and finish the game without using the level select that already had every level unlocked😂

    • @fartedlitterbox
      @fartedlitterbox 2 роки тому

      @@whoisanarnb true

    • @TwoNumbahNiens
      @TwoNumbahNiens 2 роки тому +6

      @@whoisanarnb you either a fly typah, or a shy writah.

  • @n3wbury
    @n3wbury Рік тому +7

    Well with the 25th anniversary in the rearview mirror, it makes total sense why the game was so neglected by Valve, now knowing they were gonna patch the original and delist this one entirely.

    • @shcdemolisher
      @shcdemolisher Рік тому +2

      Yep, I've been playing the original half life and MAN is it a blast!

  • @cleanclouds
    @cleanclouds 2 роки тому +248

    4:39 what kind of goddamn milk are you drinking

  • @ikiwyu
    @ikiwyu 2 роки тому +384

    I actually think the 3D skyboxes they added to surface tension work really well. The maps feel tiny when you go back and play the original game, but when you load up half life source (espescially during the cliff sequence) the world feels large and expansive. I still remember the Acrophobia I got when I first traversed the cliff sequence in half life source.

    • @ikiwyu
      @ikiwyu 2 роки тому +77

      Also that dig at the modding community? Cringe my dude, I think Stone and the gang did a great job at bringing the visuals more in-line with half life 2.

    • @when-do-we-get-a-block-button
      @when-do-we-get-a-block-button 2 роки тому +58

      yeah, yikes, i saw the dig at the modders and just have to ask, why?
      what is wrong with people having fun

    • @uboa8012
      @uboa8012 2 роки тому +37

      it feels like he was looking for reasons to trash this port. To me it was always just Half Life 1 with ragdoll physics

    • @ikiwyu
      @ikiwyu 2 роки тому +18

      It has a few bugs, mind you I do consider the current version of Half-life: source to be objjectively worse than the original because of all the game breaking bugs, but at launch it actually had a lot of minor improvements that were nice. Like the ability to select which chapter you want to play from the main menu.

  • @RadJordy
    @RadJordy 2 роки тому +18

    I remember Ross speaking on the jankness with HLS on the second Meeting of the Minds. He discussed having to noclip in and out of the level while looking at the barnacles so their tongue wouldn't be stuck all the way up and actually show up as it was supposed to. He also made some video tests on his website where he showed how stuff like the laser on the rocket launcher doesn't appear to record at the same framerate or somesuch, and that's why it looks so goofy in the episodes where he uses the laser guided rocket launcher.

  • @BlahGuyson
    @BlahGuyson 2 роки тому +170

    MAD respect for the Gman Squad shoutout. It's one of my favorite forgotten early internet relics and I adore it in its own way to this day.

    • @SovietMarmalade
      @SovietMarmalade 2 роки тому +17

      I am a Gen Z-er, and I remember G-Man Squad very vividly. Not sure how old it was when I watched it, but I definitely remember watching it when UA-cam still had stars and the yellow subscribe button. Feels weird being called one of the older ones, cuz that shit was honestly one of the reasons Source games hold a very special place in my heart.

    • @BlahGuyson
      @BlahGuyson 2 роки тому +5

      @@SovietMarmalade For real man. It came out when I was in high school, so had to be at least 2008. Crackbone still lives rent-free in my head to this day.

    • @niichhe
      @niichhe 2 роки тому +9

      got them braindawgs

    • @RichterOvertime
      @RichterOvertime  Рік тому +16

      @@niichhe I GOT THEM BRAIN DAWGS!!!!

    • @niichhe
      @niichhe Рік тому +5

      @@RichterOvertime IM ON YOUR ROOF, I WAS LOOKING FOR MY CAR KEYS

  • @primesuspect8567
    @primesuspect8567 2 роки тому +17

    1:13 Didnt know Kevin Spacey was in the hl2 beta

  • @ImmaLittlePip
    @ImmaLittlePip 2 роки тому +238

    Man you just took me back in time by mentioning freeman's mind and gman squad

    • @thealandude9146
      @thealandude9146 2 роки тому +2

      same

    • @PostIronicState
      @PostIronicState 2 роки тому +37

      The fact that Ross is STILL making episodes of Freeman's Mind keeps my inner child alive

    • @vergilstatus17
      @vergilstatus17 2 роки тому +9

      Same dude i watched Gman squad without even knowing English way back when lmao

    • @pleasegoawaydude
      @pleasegoawaydude 2 роки тому +1

      Remember to re-watch Freeman's Mind once per year, lest you mess with the Freeman.

    • @mathesonwarshawski380
      @mathesonwarshawski380 2 роки тому

      +ImmaLittlePip Believe it or not, Freeman's Mind is still ongoing as per Freeman's Mind 2

  • @jaaaaaked
    @jaaaaaked Рік тому +14

    I really loved Half-Life: Source as a kid. Definitely through Gman Squad and late 00s let's play videos of it, with the weird ragdolls and HDR lighting on low-res textures. Something about it was appealing in a surreal way.

  • @Her_Imperious_Condescension
    @Her_Imperious_Condescension 2 роки тому +110

    I remember buying HL:S specifically _because_ of all the goofy bugs.
    I don't regret it, it was a hilarious playthrough.

    • @Teesquared00
      @Teesquared00 4 місяці тому +2

      I felt this way about Cyberpunk when it was released. A lot of people were super mad at all the technical issues, but so many of the bugs were funny as hell. You could crash cars into open doors and then close them, resulting in a fustercluck of collision noises, particle animations and a car getting yeeted into the stratosphere/void.

    • @CrossoverNexus
      @CrossoverNexus 11 днів тому

      @@Teesquared00 You do know there are people who actually play a game for the gameplay and not to just mess around, right?

  • @l3xforever
    @l3xforever 19 днів тому +3

    5:05 new players will start with black mesa, and will only cursory check out the og game out of curiosity. The remaining nerds will know what they’re getting in.

    • @todesziege
      @todesziege 17 днів тому

      That is very unfortunate.

  • @classicalmusic1337
    @classicalmusic1337 2 роки тому +1031

    I never expected cancer to be a part of my story. I was a healthy, active guy in my mid-30s, working as a software engineer and enjoying all the things life had to offer. But when I started experiencing unexplained fatigue and a nagging pain in my abdomen, I knew something wasn't right.
    The diagnosis was a shock: stage 3 colon cancer. I couldn't believe it. How could this happen to me? I was young, fit, and had no family history of the disease. But as I sat in the oncologist's office, staring at the bleak statistics on the screen in front of me, I knew I had to fight.
    The next few months were a blur of chemotherapy and radiation treatments, hospital stays and endless rounds of medication. I lost my hair, my energy, and my sense of hope. The worst part was the isolation. I couldn't work, I couldn't socialize, I couldn't even go out in public without feeling self-conscious and vulnerable.
    One day, as I lay on my couch feeling sorry for myself, my younger brother came to visit. He had brought a gift with him: a copy of Half-Life: Source, a first-person shooter game that I had always wanted to play but never had the chance.
    I was skeptical at first. How was playing a video game going to help me with cancer? But as I started to immerse myself in the game, something miraculous happened. For the first time in months, I forgot about my illness. I was no longer a cancer patient, I was Gordon Freeman, a scientist fighting for survival against an alien invasion.
    As I explored the immersive, detailed world of Half-Life: Source, I felt a sense of purpose and accomplishment that I had been missing in my real life. I was using my mind, my reflexes, my problem-solving skills to overcome obstacles and defeat enemies. It was a welcome break from the constant worry and pain that had become my daily reality.
    Over time, as I played more and more of the game, I started to feel a sense of hope and determination returning to me. I began to think about the future, to set goals and make plans. I started exercising again, eating better, and taking care of myself. I even started to think about returning to work.
    And then, after what felt like an eternity, the day finally came when my oncologist declared me cancer-free. It was a moment of pure joy and relief, and I knew that I owed a lot of my recovery to the hours I had spent playing Half-Life: Source.
    Looking back, I realize that the game was more than just a distraction or a hobby for me. It was a lifeline, a way to escape the darkness of cancer and find a sense of meaning and purpose in my life. It gave me the strength and courage to keep fighting, even when the odds seemed stacked against me.
    And now, as I stand here, a cancer survivor, I am grateful for every moment I spent playing Half-Life: Source. It truly made a difference in my darkest hour.

    • @adama865
      @adama865 2 роки тому +168

      Someone make this a copypasta

    • @TheKaffeekatze
      @TheKaffeekatze 2 роки тому +54

      This is a glimmer of hope in a big sea of negativity seen everywhere online, you deserve great things

    • @bluegum6438
      @bluegum6438 2 роки тому +137

      @@adama865 I never expected AIDS to be a part of my story. I was a healthy, active guy in my mid-30s, working as a software engineer and enjoying all the things life had to offer. But when I started experiencing unexplained fatigue and a nagging pain in my butthole, I knew something wasn't right.
      The diagnosis was a shock: full-blown HIV AIDS. I was riddled with it. How could this happen to me? I was young, fit, and had no family history of the disease. But as I sat in the doctor's office, staring at the bleak statistics on the screen in front of me, I knew I had to fight.
      The next few months were a blur of hospital stays and endless rounds of medication. I lost my hair, my pride and my dignity. The worst part was the isolation. I couldn't work, I couldn't socialize, I couldn't even go out in public without some idiot asking me if I was contagious.
      One day, as I lay on my couch feeling sorry for myself, my wife's boyfriend came to visit. He had brought a gift with him: a copy of Hunt Down The Freeman, a first-person shooter game that I had always wanted to play but never had the chance.
      I was skeptical at first. How was playing a video game going to help me with cancer? But as I started to immerse myself in the game, something miraculous happened. For the first time in months, I forgot about my illness. I was no longer an AIDS-riddled bozo, I was Sergeant Mitchell Shepard, a badass fighting for revenge against an armored mute brandishing a lever.
      As I explored the immersive, detailed world of Hunt Down The Freeman, I felt a sense of true existential dread and agony that even AIDS had failed to impress upon me. I was watching endless nonsensical cutscenes and stumbling through half-finished corridors. It was a perfect match for the constant worry and pain that had become my daily reality.
      Over time, as I played more and more of the game, I started to feel a sense of hope and determination returning to me. I began to think about the future, to set goals and make plans. I started exercising again, eating better, and taking care of myself. I even started to think about returning to work. In comparison to playing Hunt Down The Freeman, everything else seemed easy.
      And then, after what felt like an eternity, the day finally came when my doctor declared I had two months to live. It was a moment of pure joy and relief, and I knew that I owed a lot of my decline to the hours I had spent playing Hunt Down The Freeman.
      Looking back, I realize that the game was more than just a distraction or a hobby for me. It really illustrated the futility and absurdity of existence, and it comforted me to know that the works of man are all but dust in the face of an uncaring universe.
      And now, as I stand here, I am grateful for every moment I spent playing Hunt Down The Freeman. It truly made a difference in my darkest hour.

    • @ButtonMasherReal
      @ButtonMasherReal 2 роки тому +151

      I almost thought this was going to be a copypasta about how Half-Life: Source gave you cancer. I guess this is good too, though.

    • @classicalmusic1337
      @classicalmusic1337 2 роки тому +63

      @@ButtonMasherReal I remember the day I was diagnosed with cancer like it was yesterday. It was a cold, dark winter morning and I had just gotten out of bed when my doctor called with the news. I was in shock, my heart racing as I tried to comprehend what he was telling me. The words "stage 4" and "terminal" kept ringing in my head, and I couldn't shake the feeling that my life was over.
      I couldn't believe it. How could this have happened to me? I had always been careful, always followed the rules. But then I remembered something - my obsession with Half-Life: Source. I had spent hours upon hours playing that game, ignoring my friends and family in favor of the virtual world it provided. And now, it seemed, that obsession had come back to haunt me.
      As it turned out, the game was full of bugs and glitches, and one of them had caused my cancer. The developers had known about the issue for years, but they had done nothing to fix it, and now it was too late for me.
      I was terrified and overwhelmed, and I didn't know how I was going to get through the next few months, let alone the rest of my life. But somehow, I found the strength to keep going. I knew I had to fight, no matter how hard it was going to be.
      Through the ups and downs of treatment, I tried my best to stay positive. I knew that I had brought this upon myself, and I was determined to make the most of what little time I had left.
      But as I lay in my hospital bed, staring at the ceiling and trying to come to terms with my fate, I couldn't help but feel angry and bitter. I was a victim of a careless, profit-driven industry that had no regard for the well-being of its players.
      And so, as I took my last breath, I made a promise to myself - to use my story as a cautionary tale, and to warn others about the dangers of playing games like Half-Life: Source. It was a small comfort, but it was all I had left.

  • @arbiter8246
    @arbiter8246 Рік тому +5

    9:10 Just like if Star Wars didn't suck we wouldn't have Mr.Plinkett

  • @ElijahBobingerDragonogh
    @ElijahBobingerDragonogh 2 роки тому +135

    HL:Source was my intro to HL1. I don’t feel like I had any real problems with it, and I loved the physics in HL1. Granted, it was when I started with HL2, GMod, CS:Source, and Portal, but it still held up at the time

    • @AdrianRojasF
      @AdrianRojasF 2 роки тому +11

      Same! I was tricked into thinking it was an upgrade to the original and I played it first. As far as I could tell it ran normally and I fell in love with the game. I guess it's good enough by itself so, for a first timer, it wouldn't make a difference.
      I didn't get all the hate at first but apparently I played it right before the Pipeline update that broke the game in 2013. I was lucky, I guess.

    • @bluegum6438
      @bluegum6438 2 роки тому +2

      I played in like 2008 and it was fine as far as I cared except for the atrocious ragdolls, but as covered in the video and the above comment the Steam Pipeline update completely fubar'd it and it continued to get more busted with each Source update. On the topic of HL:S Deathmatch, I also played a little bit of it around the same time and a small child who was one of the only people still playing it recruited me to "act in" a knock-off of GMan Squad he titled "The R*****ed Guys" and ordered me around for a while and sent me the UA-cam link, it was one of the most godawful nonsensical things I've ever seen, fond memory that I hadn't thought about for years.

    • @drawter3592
      @drawter3592 2 роки тому

      @@bluegum6438 is the video still up today?

    • @bluegum6438
      @bluegum6438 2 роки тому

      @@drawter3592 I have no idea, I just searched it and nothing came up
      if it is still up good luck finding it, sorry

  • @andreworders7305
    @andreworders7305 2 роки тому +38

    5:30 that doesn’t look like milk. I’m confused.

    • @finn_in_the_bin5263
      @finn_in_the_bin5263 6 місяців тому +3

      I think what he meant was 'milky' as in opaque liquid but it definitely made for some fun roasting in the comments about his milk selection

  • @Cynidecia
    @Cynidecia 2 роки тому +31

    7:40
    that early 2000s pre rendered promotional screenshot sheen.

  • @ThatUnknownDude_
    @ThatUnknownDude_ 2 роки тому +1

    8:45 Nah I envisoned the Crowbar hitting sound, a sound that lives rent free in my brain

  • @ceelt
    @ceelt 2 роки тому +95

    I remember using half life source maps to play in vr via gmod. It’s super fun actually.

    • @dominicbofficial
      @dominicbofficial 2 роки тому +19

      that's what wayneradioTV did to film the HLVRAI series!

    • @azzyiseternal4745
      @azzyiseternal4745 2 роки тому +18

      @@dominicbofficial i believe he also used the resized maps mod, since hl:s has a shitton of loading screens and level transitions, so it has like 500 maps per chapter instead of just, well, 1 map per chapter.

  • @lukemorgan6166
    @lukemorgan6166 9 місяців тому +3

    5:32 milk ?
    The hell you drinking

  • @snapchipper
    @snapchipper 2 роки тому +255

    I was the one who caused the HD pack. So glad to know it's my permanent legacy for the Half-Life franchise.

    • @Gameprojordan
      @Gameprojordan 2 роки тому +31

      Half life: we do a little trolling it's called we go a little trolling

    • @Rookie417
      @Rookie417 2 роки тому +6

      Care to explain more?

    • @nickosman1556
      @nickosman1556 2 роки тому

      source or it didnt happened

    • @redfiretf2
      @redfiretf2 2 роки тому +54

      @@Rookie417 basically, chipsnapper made a post to the github issue tracker for steampipe, suggesting to add the gearbox hd models. however a gamebanana mod was linked and included retextured versions of the HD models, as well as world textures
      it got added to the HL:S beta branch, a week later the world textures were pulled, leaving only the HD models with fanmade textures
      and its still there today

    • @chaosquidquicklimeboi8437
      @chaosquidquicklimeboi8437 2 роки тому +7

      it's okay, based marathon man

  • @BurnVictim4029
    @BurnVictim4029 2 роки тому +2

    Someone else remembers the Gman Squad! I remember watching that as a kid, maybe no older than 10, and loving it.

  • @Dr.F999
    @Dr.F999 2 роки тому +46

    Dude, when you mentioned HLVRAI, I felt good. When you mentioned Freemans Mind, I felt nostalgic. When you mentioned G-man Squad, OMG do I miss those guys.

    • @Zenurfiy
      @Zenurfiy 2 роки тому +6

      Funny thing is I don't feel nostalgic about Freeman's Mind because still waiting for next episode.

    • @flordelizhawk358
      @flordelizhawk358 9 місяців тому

      ​@@ZenurfiyI am glad I am still waiting for Freeman's mind though, at least I am waiting for something instead of nothing.

  • @wandtpag
    @wandtpag 2 роки тому +17

    6:34 beloved my ass, I hated that segment, falling off the cliffs, ladders in the original HL not working properly... also the old textures gave me eye irritation and nausea... I hope you meant that segment sarcastically

    • @ZackSBruh
      @ZackSBruh 2 роки тому

      Ladders are just a wall that you can go to the sky.

  • @KamiJoJo
    @KamiJoJo 2 роки тому +67

    When you start to realize that you lived long enough to remember G-Man Squad long before Freeman's Mind and AI is Self-Aware, that's my case and it feels quite nostalgic.

    • @pleasegoawaydude
      @pleasegoawaydude 2 роки тому +4

      I'm just old enough to remember G-Man squad existing, but too young to have bothered watching it. I didn't really get into the internet as quickly as everybody else my age.

  • @shirosaki97
    @shirosaki97 Рік тому +2

    Bro you sent me back in time with that GMan Squad mention. I loved watching that shit as a kid. xD

  • @AHurdOfBronies_
    @AHurdOfBronies_ 2 роки тому +39

    4:59 I remember back when the cinematic mod was more recent and hearing how everyone was saying how good it apparently was. I saw this scene in a video showcasing the mod and instantly hated it because of how expressionless Alyx looked due to the face rigging being absolutely broken.

  • @realbytezo
    @realbytezo Рік тому +4

    when i first played half life I played source thinking it was the original, god I was dumb

  • @andresbravo2003
    @andresbravo2003 2 роки тому +11

    Fun Fact: It can be mounted on Jabroni Brawl EP3 to play co-op.

  • @augmentedkazoo357
    @augmentedkazoo357 2 роки тому +19

    7:07
    I actually love those old textures... They have an odd level of charm to 'em.

    • @RaphpowerSGSUModding
      @RaphpowerSGSUModding 2 роки тому +1

      Same for models, the combination of the two with the old static lighting system gives a vibe

    • @Fenrize
      @Fenrize Рік тому +1

      Kind of reminds me of tuna or minced meat

  • @letthebasscannon223
    @letthebasscannon223 2 роки тому +6

    1:48
    the virgin HL2 beta community vs the chad STALKER build community

  • @havoc3-243
    @havoc3-243 2 роки тому +21

    Take a look at Prospekt, which held the #1 punchingbag spot alongside Half-Life: Source. But people seemingly forgot it existed when hunt down the freeman launched

    • @somedudethatripsplanetinha4221
      @somedudethatripsplanetinha4221 2 роки тому

      hunt down my will to live

    • @Andrewnuva199
      @Andrewnuva199 2 роки тому +7

      Prospekt was relatively inoffensive, just a HL2 level pack that talked a big game about "starring" Shepard but wasn't actually doing that much with it, but all things considered not doing that much wrong. HDTF turned any issues it had up to 11.

  • @heyitzcarlos194
    @heyitzcarlos194 Рік тому +1

    8:03
    those 10 dollars are both HL:S and HLD:S
    You can't buy them in seperate parts, if you buy half life source, it will come with deathmatch source, if you buy deathmatch source it will come with half life source, you can see the package info at the right of the buy button

  • @Jofoyo
    @Jofoyo 2 роки тому +5

    Gman Squad... Now that's a name I've not heard in a looong time... A long time...

  • @sparkywilson1405
    @sparkywilson1405 2 роки тому +2

    What's funny is that HL Source was my introduction to the series - I hadn't played it before when I bought the Orange Box on release.
    I didn't have any problems with it. There was probably a lot I missed, lol.

  • @Viper-jr4sp
    @Viper-jr4sp 2 роки тому +36

    As someone who played it when it when I was 5 it looked good but definitely noticed the bugs more when they updated it years later it’s still a fun game have lots of memories including watching Gman squad Freeman’s mind and other series with my older brother HL Source will still hold major value to many players no matter the bugs

    • @lorsmephisto5222
      @lorsmephisto5222 2 роки тому +1

      Gman Squad was awesome, shame they all broke up

    • @MirrorHall_Clay
      @MirrorHall_Clay Рік тому

      It's not that you didn't notice them earlier, they didn't exist earlier
      Updates absolutely destroyed the game

  • @Vikachu64
    @Vikachu64 Рік тому +14

    Half-Life: Source was actually my first time with the Half-Life series. I cherished the game but was unable to finish it cuz of a boss not spawning and soft-locking me in a pit on the alien planet. Just got the OG game for free thanks to the 25th Anniversary. Really shocking to see that there's a huge difference between the two. Still love 'em both tho

  • @FossyPickles
    @FossyPickles 2 роки тому +10

    1:21 I think we already know why *three*-wave was cancelled

    • @FakeNikolay
      @FakeNikolay 3 місяці тому

      Tell

    • @LPSmusic647
      @LPSmusic647 2 місяці тому

      @@FakeNikolay long running joke that valve can’t count to three (see none of their games (HL, TF, Portal) having a 3rd game

  • @andreworders7305
    @andreworders7305 2 роки тому +2

    You can’t see any water FX in that clip you showed for blood and water FX because it’s underwater

  • @deityofsin8106
    @deityofsin8106 2 роки тому +8

    At 5:00 i cannot agree more. One of my friends played source and was adamant there was zero difference. I was basically begging him to play the original but he believed it was fine, missed so many cutscenes and cool features T-T

  • @RedTV2
    @RedTV2 Рік тому +2

    8:40 exactly, thats the only reason i want hl source. cuz due to the anniversary thing, i got og hl1 for free

  • @Gojiro7
    @Gojiro7 2 роки тому +8

    what a weirdly contradictory message this video has, "People complain about this game too much, but please continue to complain about it so Valve knows it sucks"

  • @FitchTV
    @FitchTV 2 роки тому +1

    There are ten nine year old Jake Lloyd's surrounding Dr Breen. This sicko. So this is his private reserve. Jake Lloyd's

  • @greenoftreeblackofblue6625
    @greenoftreeblackofblue6625 2 роки тому +41

    I remember when all half life games were free to play and I played through them this one was fun to compare.

  • @cjslider3943
    @cjslider3943 Рік тому +1

    Holy cow talking about gman squad and freemans mind brought back memories of xanatos and crackbone in all these different source mods

  • @TheMinipasila
    @TheMinipasila 2 роки тому +10

    half life source actually comes with the deathmatch and even if you go to the individual page for the deathmatch it still only lets you buy it with the bundle (been that way at least since 2007)

  • @Senor_Penor
    @Senor_Penor 2 роки тому +1

    G-MAN SQUAD HOLY SHIT! Dude I have been looking for those guys forever, i watched Janus Syndicate so much back in the day and i forgot what it was called. Their Goldeneye: Source stuff was the funniest thing back in the day.

  • @admclef7696
    @admclef7696 2 роки тому +8

    2:08 black ops backflip gone wrong

  • @v4lgrind
    @v4lgrind Рік тому +2

    Half-Life:Source was a good idea as a technical vehicle. It should never have been sold for money or promoted as the improved Half-Life.

  • @ItzZeph
    @ItzZeph 2 роки тому +6

    I dont know if anyone picked up on it below.. But love the Cortex Command Music you had at one point in the Video. Thanks for bringing me a sense of deep Nostalgia!

  • @nexusshark
    @nexusshark Рік тому +2

    Kinda weird that, when I played Half-Life Source the first couple of times, I experienced little to no bugs. Today it's a different story, but even then I see glitches and bugs online that I never experienced when playing that version of HL1 myself.

  • @S3th__
    @S3th__ 2 роки тому +5

    i watched this video until around the 8:00 min mark, at that point i paused and decided to refund the game as i had recently bought it, then as soon at i unpaused all i saw was how great it was.

  • @Gaming1Doge
    @Gaming1Doge 8 місяців тому +2

    The one thing that I hated, like really HATED about HL1 was it's flashlight, it's just so bad, especially for a game where pretty much every chapter has a vent section. That's the biggest change in HL:Source imo, it really needed that. Wish it wasn't as buggy and neglected as it was.

  • @LordDagmord
    @LordDagmord 2 роки тому +11

    9:05 This is a great point. Black Mesa is personally my favorite way to experience HL1 and it wouldn't even exist is HL:S wasn't such a mess.

    • @ZackSBruh
      @ZackSBruh 2 роки тому +1

      After those comments like this, I like Half Life Source even more just beacause it gives the opportunity to do creative reimaginative Half Life 1, also Black Mesa is on my heart.

  • @digital_underground
    @digital_underground Рік тому +2

    7:40 I don't get it. What's wrong with the images for the mods being shown?

  • @gameral4235
    @gameral4235 2 роки тому +9

    4:35 hey you rhymed

  • @filcz1117
    @filcz1117 Рік тому +8

    I started with source and im happy for it. It brought to much joy seeing different kinds of bugs and then going to half life 2 i started to miss them.

  • @skaynne54
    @skaynne54 2 роки тому +62

    I really love the part, where you mention the good things HL:S did, which is, creating old and not so old series. It reminds me of the whole thing with Black Ops: Cold War. A lot of people hated for justified and not so justified reasons. But I'm mostly referring to Zombie mode there. A lot of people hate it for some obvious reasons. But even then, it inspired a lot of good maps on Black Ops 3 zombies, bringing some fresh new maps and other stuff. That thing people hated added new interesting things to Black Ops 3 Zombies, which probably said things would've never happened if it wasn't for Cold War.

    • @moonlightact1792
      @moonlightact1792 2 роки тому +1

      if it wasnt for it, we wouldnt have gotten der bunker

    • @busterbackster1
      @busterbackster1 2 роки тому

      Do you have cold war and 3 swapped? One came way after the other

    • @skaynne54
      @skaynne54 2 роки тому +2

      @@busterbackster1 Okay, maybe I didn't explained well ? I know that BO3 came first. But what I'm saying is that even though Cold War is hated, a lot of people who made BO3 zombies maps took inspiration from mechanics and other things from CW Zombies. And some of the people who hated on CW Zombies probably also played some of the BO3 Zombies maps who are based on CW Zombies' mechanics. That, or, they are shitting on these maps, just because they uses CW Zombies mechanics, even though, said maps are popular and good. While i do have problems with Cold War as a whole and a lot of other things about it, I would be really fuckin dumb if I decide to deny anything that Cold War allowed some new good maps to be created.
      (Don't pay attention to any uppercase "i". My auto translate on mobile causes this, and I stopped bothering to fix this shit)

    • @planetmaker3472
      @planetmaker3472 Рік тому

      ​@@skaynne54oh, youre talking about custom zombies!

  • @Pyrazahn
    @Pyrazahn 2 роки тому +2

    My introduction to Valve games was the "holiday 2006" bundle which included HL:S + HL2 + EP1. But HL:S just kept crashing and eventually refused to start at all. So I ended up buying "Half Life Anthology", a bundle of the original HL1 and both addons, which then worked without problems.

  • @SanyID
    @SanyID 2 роки тому +8

    6:23 The NPCs tend to miss behave 💀 😭

  • @KrissFliss
    @KrissFliss 2 роки тому +6

    0:58 I see what you did there!

  • @aidanwhitney5368
    @aidanwhitney5368 2 роки тому +4

    The game also seems significantly more difficult than its GoldSrc counterpart. HECU Marines are more aggressive. MP5 does more damage and has better accuracy in both the hands of the player and the enemies, but it also has an honestly bizarre recoil pattern that is difficult to learn and the marines don't have to worry about, so SMG marines are far deadlier than in GoldSrc. The bugginess of the game overall makes it really unpredictable. You can run faster and jump higher, so there are a lot of skips that aren't possible in GoldSrc. You can actually jump high enough to stand on a marine's head, at which point all of the other marines in the level will surround the marine you are standing on and start kicking him until he dies.

  • @ashisharky
    @ashisharky 20 днів тому +2

    4:40 MILK????? that looks like SLUDGE.

  • @CrimeFighterFrog
    @CrimeFighterFrog 2 роки тому +9

    The way you described the skybox in surface tension was so funny, I had to pause because I was dying laughing

  • @adamkc0
    @adamkc0 Рік тому +1

    What stopped me from playing hl source on my last playthrough was the fact that there's no idle NPC chatter. I'd even been planning to spawn extra npcs throughout the game like giving the gutshot guard on power up some buddies or storming the dam with a mob of guards. Having them standing there completely silent during all that would've felt pretty hollow.

  • @Omeg1
    @Omeg1 2 роки тому +12

    This game is definitely a "your honor it was funny" moment

  • @dingdongbells3314
    @dingdongbells3314 Рік тому +2

    I think the real charm of Half-Life source dawned on me when I was able to spam impulse 203 multiple times, with NPCs being stuck in the walls left and right, and the game NOT crashing immediately. For those of you too young to remember the days before Garry's Mod, the only way to spam npcs to mess around with in Gold SRC was through console commands, and even then, it was very unstable and prone to crashing when you spawn grunts into objects or if the entity you were trying to spawn didn't already exist on the map somewhere.
    But in HL Source it just, works. So well that you could make C1a0 into a slaughtering field of zombies, human grunts, barnies, snd all manner of everything else.

  • @jsXanatos
    @jsXanatos 2 роки тому +6

    Half life deathmatch source, never heard of it

  • @NVUSAttitude
    @NVUSAttitude 2 роки тому +1

    Ive had people look at my installed games and they all say “you have HL source installed?”
    Uhh yeah, so i can mount it on gmod to carry over the assets, thats it

  • @GracefulJabberwocky
    @GracefulJabberwocky 2 роки тому +15

    0:03 HL Deathmatch Source.

    • @RedLazer5000
      @RedLazer5000 Рік тому +4

      In my opinion, id rather play both hl: s and hld: s than gta: de

    • @kaviennn
      @kaviennn 3 місяці тому

      That’s like one of the best

  • @irisgaming2011
    @irisgaming2011 Рік тому +3

    Wait, wasn't 3:05 chapter system used for HL2?

  • @evector1284
    @evector1284 2 роки тому +5

    I love games like this, whether it's this game, Sonic '06, the plethora of cheap wii games or just a game in open alpha/beta. It gives unique insight to game development when the seams are clearly visible and can teach you a little bit more about what the developers were thinking.

  • @guyginzburg1117
    @guyginzburg1117 Рік тому +2

    anyone knows how the song in 9:03 is called? ive been looking for it a while by now

  • @WalnutOW
    @WalnutOW 2 роки тому +3

    8:00 Yeah, I know that price is ridiculous, but can we be careful when using the term "predatory" so that it doesn't lose its meaning?

  • @rogoznicafc9672
    @rogoznicafc9672 2 роки тому +1

    In elementary and middle school we used to play on LAN servers amongst ourselves whenever we were in computer lab and had a BLAST. also no one knew how to use that boost jump thingy except me and my brother so we had quite an advantage xD Some "not that into gaming" classmates even thought we were cheating lmao

  • @sgas
    @sgas 2 роки тому +6

    7:25 It really doesnt look that bad

  • @nakfoor1846
    @nakfoor1846 2 роки тому +6

    Very good overview. A lot of people just crap on it without telling the entire story about how it was originally offered.

  • @saverofthehumens
    @saverofthehumens 2 роки тому +3

    I remember playing this all those many years ago and found it palatable because none of the updates had broken it yet. It worked just fine and if I recall the floating chair guys hadn't unlocked their latant powers yet.

  • @magmamaster1801
    @magmamaster1801 Рік тому +1

    I actually installed that HD mod for the game over a decade ago.
    I was really surprised when years later I booted up the game from a fresh install and discovered they had added the mod to the game itself.

  • @Defenestrum
    @Defenestrum 2 роки тому +8

    You're pretty spot on with a lot of what you discussed. Half-Life: Source has become a meme in the community because it's one of those things that people "love to hate" despite most likely not having played it themselves. However, it feels to me like most of its meme status has been built up within the last few years. The main reason why I made that video compiling all the bugs I could find is because no one on the internet was discussing this game 5 to 6 years ago and how broken it was getting because of the engine updates. I remember sitting there and having the We've Got Hostiles marine glitch out and attack me before the scientist, and my first reaction was to question my own sanity and if I was mis-remembering how the sequence went. I'm glad that at least these days most people know to stay away from it, and any newcomer to the franchise will probably be put off after 2 seconds of googling. I do agree with your take that HLS is "over-hated" though. It's merely just...mediocre. You can play it from start to finish with not a lot of game-breaking issues, just annoyances. I genuinely avoid thinking about this game and how it caused my younger self to gaslight himself into thinking "uh....I think that was like this all long...maybe?". It makes me sad that an official Half-Life game from Valve has gotten so little care over time.

  • @chaos-5020
    @chaos-5020 5 місяців тому +1

    Never thought I'd hear Richter say "Milk" with so much... frustration? is that what you'd call it?

  • @DeepseaOddities
    @DeepseaOddities 2 роки тому +5

    Great video, Richter! HL:S has the console codes going for it at least, being able to spawn any NPC in any map is loads of fun.
    I have much to say about this, but I actually _love_ Deathmatch Source and think it's leagues better than HL:S is. DMS is extremely janky but, vitally, its many community maps combine ported HL1 and HL2 assets, which I'm a big fan of...point being it feels like it has more of a reason to exist and be played bc it's fundamentally different than regular HL1 DM. For any DMS fans that might be here, they've surely played on the best server in the whole game, Motorcity Madhouse, run by the idle Gman himself, Spooky Action At A Distance🤓

    • @MCmikelmax
      @MCmikelmax 2 роки тому

      lmao makes sense you'd be a half life fan. very nice

  • @GMDTheOnyxGuyEizzX
    @GMDTheOnyxGuyEizzX 27 днів тому

    0:14 Does anyone know why Joel's Hardcore Fridays HL Source video is gone? Like, it's here in the video but it's gone nowadays. Did he play some sort of copyrighted song back then?

  • @ssgoko88
    @ssgoko88 Рік тому +1

    when he said "gman squad" i was sent to the 20th dead world and my soul temporarily ejected from my body. that was so long ago holy shit.