@@kellydaunis amanda just sucks at speaking her mind to the jury but do not think that the castaway who holds the record for most consecutive days on the island without being voted off did not belong on this season😂 you can dislike a person without devaluing their game, and amanda played 2 amazing games during which she set numerous firsts like backing it to back-to-back FTC appearances or the first successful flushing of an idol.
I never understood why James was so mad at Colby for aging. At least Colby was a challenge beast in his hay day. James couldn't even beat Courtney in his.
Yes, people forget his return was nearly a decade after Australia. It would be like asking Boston Rob to speed run along those planks again today against a cast who's 20 years younger
@@sarahlott8755 Boston Rob was a challenge menace in HvV but he got voted out early. He almost singlehandedly won the first 3 challenges for the villains. That was only a year less than Colby was away. A lot of these challenges are mind>matter and Colby dropped like crazy in both categories
@KidCrippler As a fan of coach from his 1st season I was cheering like crazy when he beat Colby in that challenge 🤣. Tho id say losing to Courtney is more embarrassing lol
“Survivor’s greatest collection of characters… and Candice.” Laughed so hard at that, the most memorable thing she’s done IMO is get booted by her returnee tribe on Blood vs Water and just sit on Redemption Isle the whole time
Stop it, let’s not pretend the mutiny wasn’t iconic on every level, and her one-sided love affair with billy is the the stuff of cringey legend. Done with the Candice disrespect
@@hunterborne2763 tbh, I find Penner’s mutiny more memorable than Candice’s. Also her love affair is more memorable for being a Billy moment that involved Candice. Sorry but with those two examples I just can’t think of any moments with her specifically that she did, and the Redemption Island wasn’t disrespect, she fought her way through that for 12 days before being sent home.
@@warmcnugget7843 I mean Candice was hands down one of the biggest characters in Cook Islands, from the mutiny, to her one sided romance with Billy, to her romance with Adam, to the fact she was so hated by the Yul, Sundra, Ozzy and Becky she nearly had a meltdown at tribal saying she didn't do anything wrong to warrant that. Sure maybe a lot of those things are down to other people, but they made her a focus piece of the Cook Islands storyline
I was also disappointed with Russell’s return in Redemption Island but that was of no fault of his own. (Well I suppose it was considering his reputation was of his own making) his tribe decided to vote him out by throwing a challenge and the season never lived up to the epic Russell vs Rob storyline we were promised. :(
Interestingly, the only returning players to get voted out pre merge in Guatemala, Redemption Island, South Pacific, and Philippines were both named Russell
A big part was HIS FAULT. He said himself to the tribe he needed to be a team guy this time now that there was film on him. Instead of helping at camp and guiding the tribe he went off right back to playing his solo game with the 2 girls
@@vaporterra I was so disappointed, but it wasn’t his fault. In a way it was flattering as they feared him so much. He’s also talked about some of the issues in his personal life that we’re going on at the time. Thankfully, he seems to be in a much better place now.
Completely agree about Wigglesworth! I hadn’t even watched Borneo when I first watched Second Chance, but I still felt the hype and subsequent disappointment by her performance on the season
I almost would put Yau-Man on Micronesia in a similar category as Rob Cesternino on All Stars. Two players who came up just short of winning their original seasons and for mostly that reason, other similar styled players opted to take them out of the equation right away.
Gotta defend JT here. Would agree if you said Gamechangers, but in HvV he took a huge risk that would've had a huge reward if he was right (and he honestly was partially right with Parvati). We obviously all knew what was really going on cuz we watched both tribes and experienced the dramatic irony, but if you look at it from just the Heroes side, an all women villain alliance kinda made sense in that era of survivor with Tyson, Rob, and Coach going back to back to back. We also have to remember that JT hadn't seen Samoa, and the only thing the cast was told about Russell was that he was definitely a villain. And while that's probably a clue to not give him an idol, it could also very well mean that he was just an asshole like Randy and not the strategic player Russell actually was. Idk, just my take I guess. I'd probably replace him with Danni in WaW. She was so many people's preseason sleeper pick, including Probst's, only to nuke her own game 6 days in for no reason. Great video though.
Honestly I don’t know why he gets so flack for heroes vs villains when he would’ve been almost guaranteed to be the first two time winner pick had the move gone right
I feel like you also have to remember that no one had seen somoa yet, so they had no idea what kind of player russell was. it was a totally valid move.
Here's the problem with JT's move, having no knowledge of what actually was going on with the villans tribe, you give someone you don't know a hidden immunity idol hoping that it will save him and he would join you at the merge. Even if Russell was on the outs of his tribe, there was no guarantee that he would join JT after the merge. The more likely scenario is what happened with Sandra, she stuck with the villans because she figured she was at least guaranteed final five with them as opposed to final 6 with the heroes. JT should've just used his idol at 10 himself. I know it sounds like Monday Morning Quarterbacking, however, to me giving someone you don't know an idol is a dunce level move.
But the problem is, he was SOOOOOO wrong about the move. That would require a lot of 'ifs' to result in a successful move. Even when Amanda brought up the idea of Russell possibly not being on the outs and actually running the tribe, JT dismissed that because he was so confident he had the right perception.
@@cxp0urqu01xj Honestly it only took one 'if'. If Russell was on the outs, it probably would have worked. And yes, he was completely wrong about this, but imagine if he had given it to Courtney or Sandra. At the most, you get Parvati or Russell out of the game with Parvati's idol washed if she played it on the wrong person. At the very least, if Parvati plays it on the right person, all the votes are negated, Sandra/Courtney goes home, but now both idols are washed and Sandra is much more likely to flip. Idk, I guess my problem with calling him disappointing is that he tried to do something to flip the tides completely to his favor, while the remaining heroes just threw in the towel and called it a day afterwards. Much more disappointed in those heroes than I was in JT.
Awesome video! Would love to see the reverse of this - returnees who had little to no expectation and killed it (Parvati, Wentworth, Kimmi come to my mind)
How is Fairplay not on the list?! I was so hyped to see him return, and how he would play the game now that people knew what they were dealing with. And then he quit. Huge disappointment.
Apparently he had oral reconstructive surgery about two weeks prior due to a broken jaw. He wasn't given pain killers and Yau Man pushing his face against a boat didn't help. Nonetheless, it was disappointing to still see him go so early.
@@junkerinhistrunker My bad, haha, Fairplay's constant complaints afterwards about Yau Man "pushing him," and "tackling," him against the boat messed with me.
@@chanyeolsass5201 The other issue there was CBS was refusing to give him the pain medications he had prescribed to him (even though they had told him pre-season that he would be able to keep taking them) meanwhile he was bitter that James (I think?) was still getting nicotine patches. I still think Fairplay, since he was technically voted out, should not be considered a quitter.
@@spencerclark4726 Whatever the reasons ultimately behind it (and I'm going to take every excuse Fairplay gives with a grain of salt), the fact of the matter is he showed up, then didn't play the game. You cannot deny how disappointing that is. Imagine your favorite sports team acquires a star player, and that player is then injured and misses the season. It may not be the player's fault, but it's still a huge disappointment.
Before watching the video in my opinion 1. Caleb - Game Changers 2. Aubry - Edge of Extinction 3. Russell Swan - Philippines 4. Vytas - Second Chances 5= Sugar - Heroes vs Villains 5= Bobby Jon - Guatemala
here was my thought 1. Francesca-Caramoan 2. Ciera-Game Changers 3. Colby-All Stars 4. Rupert-Blood vs Water 5. JT-Game Changers Honorable Mention: Russell-Redemption Island
Kind of expected to see Stephanie LeGrossa up here. She was America's dream girl after her first season where everyone wanted her to win, when she came back and was winning...the country lost their love for her and didn't want her to take the prize anymore and then she got a third shot and was gone super early with the same miserable attitude that she showed in her second showing. She's the only player that I can remember my Survivor friends being super hyped up for the return of and by the end, they were pretending they had never even rooted for her in the first place. It was disappointment on multiple levels.
I think if Tony does a better job in S34, he’s unable to decrease his threat level in S40 and spends multiple weeks on the Edge. So there’s nothing to criticize if you take the long view.
My take is that he showed such little fight throughout the season that the remaining villains literally considered him the smallest threat of the heroes.
I didn’t mind Wiglesworth’s return in Cambodia. Fifteen years can really change a person, apparently she didn’t take the bait in Cambodia and wouldn’t bring the drama like she did in season 1 which is why she got an invisible edit. Regardless of how she performed I love that she got a second chance, made it to the jury and I loved her final speech. Fully agree about JT and I was more disappointed with James in HvV than Colby, his attitude that season was too cringe.
James was incredibly obnoxious and I was glad to see the end of him, I just kept thinking he only ever got that position from stupidity and luck. Luck that it was Aaron getting voted out, and stupidity that he had two idols and got voted out.
As much as everyone was disappointed with Colby in HvV, I can see him returning for one more shot, if that supposed Legends season ever comes to fruition. Also, 5/20 isn't too bad. Staying under the radar is a form of strategy, as seen with Sandra. It's just one we weren't expecting him of all people, to use.
Where's Terry Deitz? We waited so long for him to return only for him to immediately be pulled out (given the circumstances I'm glad he stepped out). It almost feels insulting that they haven't brought him back yet since he didn't really play a second time at all
Weirdly enough, Heroes vs Villains was my first season ever and I remember really loving the Colby/Tom duo because the sense of "two former icons now playing from the bottom" was captured so perfectly within just that one season. Especially with Colby then pulling through to the final five.
A few others imo should be on this list or at least honourable mentions: -Big Tom (All-Stars) -Lex (All-Stars) -Kathy (All-Stars) -Fairplay (Micronesia) -Ami (Micronesia) -James (Heroes vs Villains) -Russell (Philippines) -Dawn (Caramoan) -Tasha (Cambodia) -Spencer (Cambodia) -JT (Game Changers) -Varner (Game Changers) -Danni (Winners at War) -Wendell (Winners at War)
Rob C(All Stars) Penner(Micronesia) Amanda(Heroes vs Villains) Randy(Heroes vs Villains) Stephanie(Heroes vs Villains) Russell(Redemption Island) Kass(Cambodia) Ozzy(Game Changers) Natalie(Winners at War)
it’s unfair to both Ami tbh given her Micronesia run happened right after a tragic loss for her and Russell S. for Philippines is just unlucky the Matsing idol was a rice basket prop.
For real I was like what are you doing while watching it I love Rob but as Ben put it it was the lack of respect for people who’ve already won the game
I was very disappointed that Yau-Man went out so early in Micronesia, and never got a shot again. Shoulda won in Fiji but frikin Dreamz didn’t keep his word.
One thing about Heroes vs Villains is that t was filmed right after Samoa, so nobody know what Russell was like. I’m sure if JT saw that season he would have never given Russell an idol and he only thought of the all women’s alliance idea because of Parvati’s history
I don't agree about Colby though. He had a better social game the third time around and was the last hero standing. I remember wondering if he didn't lower his challenge threat level on purpose, which would have been a masterclass.
I get your point but, when you think Colby you think the challenge beast. Disappointment isn’t always about actual performance it’s about what you expect. Kinda the reason I disagree with a couple on this list cause I don’t think they were actually bad in the return just not what we expected
@@claysmith1856 but it depends on what the expectations are right ? I'm expecting some kibd of change from a returnee, so I've been rarely disappointed to be honest. Except for Tony in Game Changers haha
@@IdoledOut okay that makes it a little better! She was awesome on BvW but I loved her on all her seasons💀 I wanna see her come back again because she wasn’t given a fair chance on BvW
JT definitely gets a bad rap for his second outing in Heroes Vs Villains. JT giving the idol to Russel was an awful move to us because we saw Russel play the season prior. However, everybody on the HvV season didn’t get to see Russel’s game play since both seasons were shot back to back. It was a smart move at the time I think and would have been one of the best if it actually worked out for JT. Also think they would not even suspect a girls alliance or giving the idol to Russel if they actually saw the season prior. Idk maybe a hot take.
I can't remember the details but Yau Man and Cirie had some sort of an alliance that he betrayed in Fans v. Favorites. It's why he did not try as hard to save himself...he knew he was done.
I know it's funny to see Coach frogmarch Colby. But the two of them are only 2.5 years apart. I don't think it's that egregious on Colby's part. I'm 26 now, same as he was in Australia. I can't imagine I'll be in the same shape when I'm 35.
2:20 Spot on. Parvati and Amanda were not all-star material when they were cast on Fans Vs. Favorites. They reminded me of Amber and Jenna Lewis on All-Stars. Parvati and Amanda became famous from their returnee season.
In an interview with Tina, she said there was a reason why he was underperforming and not doing well in the game. She said that she wouldn't state why, but there is a reason.
J.T. was nowhere near as bad as Tyson voting himself out or Amanda giving up a clue while Colby sat in a bed watching a movie. He lasted longer than his fellow Tocantins players, Boston Rob, and Tom. Not bad. Or maybe I just have a mancrush on him during tthe intro when he does that turn while holding the hero flag.
JT made an all time blunder, but all things considered he had least the idea to play a different kind of game than the first time. He's was doing decently and tried to make a big move which is commendable but just had a bad read, it happens.
SURVIVOR's greatest collection of characters AND candice!??.... I had to stop the vídeo and rewind just to make sure i heard right!!! OMG that was brutal 😂😂😂🤣
This could just be the fact I had zero expectations that Wigglesworth would be anything but Wigglesworth but I never found her Second Chances run disappointing. The game had changed, she hadn't, she still made a decently long run, didn't do anything immensely dumb and let's face it Second Chances had a very deadly cast as well the fans picked it! (CBS provided the short list but we narrowed it to the end). I mean did we think she was (or any of the older school players) was going to mastermind the game and run to the end?
Describing Heroes v Villains as "a major celebration of Survivor's greatest characters and Candace"... ouch. No lies detected, but ouch. Also, Colby's disappointing performance was really just his defeated attitude. He clearly wasn't having fun and probably should have declined to return.
Idk if I agree with most of these. I wouldn't call JT, Colby, and to a lesser extent GC Tony "disappointing" because at least they provided a lot of entertainment value while they were there. It was sad to watch Colby fail over and over again after being such a challenge beast in his prior seasons, but it made for compelling TV and that last confessional of his is probably one of the best of all time. I do agree that Yau Man and Kelly were disappointing as returnees because they didn't deliver much of anything. Aubry in EoE, Sugar, Monica Padilla, Kass, JFP, were all disappointing.
Really great video! The only off note for me was the bit about JT's handwriting. I think in 2021 using feminine as an insult towards men should be retired. Other than that it was really well put together.
I appreciate you giving this more context, and certainly using feminine as an insult was normal for when this season was filmed. I think Parvati and Russell had a field day calling out JT on this move, and with that buffet of options there were other fun ways the description could have gone.For me it feels off-note to highlight that particular line in 2021. That said, I think Idoled Out is great and I hope these comments read as a fan pointing out a gaffe/spinach in teeth moment, and not a hate comment. Also thanks for being kind in your reply even though we have different takes- UA-cam can be a scary place.
@@Sunlit_Reading I’m also pretty sure Amanda actually physically wrote the letter, and JT just chose the words? (That could be wrong, correct me if so. And I agree femininity shouldn’t be used as an insult)
I agree, thank you for mentioning that. I will be more careful with my language in the future, and I appreciate you bringing this up in a respectful way!
For All Stars what messed them up was the 3 tribes on six. If you put 2 teams the good players could have team up. Like Lex because he had Ethan and Colby has meat shields he went far.
Maaan the "Tony is GOAT" stuff gets old so quick. Dude wins Cagayan mostly by luck (thanks to Kass's flips and irrational RI-esque Brob's cult behavior by Trish and Woo all season long) and then loses instantly on GC to the point where absolutely nobody on WaW thinks he's a threat and everyone thinks he's a goat until like 2/3rds through. If Sandra's two wins were extremely lucky, so were Tonys.
THANK YOU! I really don't get all the Tony hype. He was just lucky to be in a season where there were only 2 other people playing the game (Spencer and Tasha) while Kass was doing all the dumbest moves she could and Trish and Woo were the greatest goats ever. Tony's game is just over the top and in your face, but that doesn't mean it's a great game.
I wasn’t disappointed with Tony in Game Changers. He showed up with the biggest target on his back and realistically had no shot at winning anyway, so why not get a little silly with it? You could also argue that he doesn’t win WaW without learning from his mistakes in GC.
Wigglesworth moved like a snail compared to the post H VS V gameplay.. but with that she made it pretty far for someone so out of it... I was glad to see her at the merge.
Honestly I wasn't dissapointed by Kelly. if I'm being totally honest, she felt like a bit of a wet blanket in the first season. her only interesting trait was her back and forth on whether making an alliance and slowly destroying everyone was good or bad, which honestly just makes her look indescisive and easily manipulatable. Or she was a challenge beast on some of the lamest/easiest challenges. Sowhen she came back and continued to play like a wet blanket, I wasn't surprised.
I happened to watch HvV first and then got back to earlier seasons. I couldn't tell how the hell James ended up on the Heroes tribe judging by the way he behaved during the season. Then on his earlier two seasons he was so much more likeable and nice. It's like he did a complete 180 for HvV but still got cast based on his original merits.
@@warmcnugget7843 Sure but both times he got blindsided out of nowhere (from his perspective at least) and both times he was a good sport about it. My impression of his early seasons was that he was among the few players who got knocked out surprisingly by close people and he was like "It's a game. Well done!". HvV was like his evil twin showed up instead of him.
Part of the Colby segment. If it was just a few seconds I would've just left it, but it was a decent chunk. Appreciate everyone mentioning it so I could fix it quickly!
Tasha from Second Chance I would also add to this list. I liked her in Cagayan but the fact she made it to the final three as a goat is disappointing even when she got permission from her church to truly play.
Haven't seen the season since it aired, all I can recall is being glad he had an early exit because his casting was gimmicky and was going to suck up airtime from the actual Australian players the longer he was in. Nothing against Russell personally, of course, I just wasn't tuning in to Survivor AU to see an American player play.
@@IdoledOut they should’ve cast him on Game Changers instead. Everyone would’ve kept him around because he’d be too unlikable to get any votes at the end anyways. Well maybe against Brad Culpepper, who knows lol.
Rupert in All Stars was really hard for me to watch. I remember watching him in Pearl Islands as a kid and he was my favorite to ever play (at that point) and then he just ruined it by his performance in All Stars.
Rupert is a case of his fame really getting to his head. Proclaimed and seen as the most popular Survivor contestant *period* he really let it give him an inflated ego. Which when things didn't go his way tended to have him become even more irritable and whiny than in Pearl Islands.
I think Malcolm deserves an honroable mention for his flame outs in both Fans VS Favorites and Game Changers as well. One person I wish got another shot was Pete from Phillipines. I can only imagine how chaotic Cambodia would've been had Pete and Abi been paired together again.
Maaaaybe Malcolm in Caramoan, but I think he was playing a pretty good game in Game Changers until the surprise double tribal. The greatest man bun in history needs his fourth shot
You said jt ruined his legacy by returning. Why does rob still have a golden legacy despite him pooping the bed everytime he's come back. He was a one hit wonder.
@@IdoledOut Come on don't jump on the woke bandwaggon, just because one contestant wasn't ok with it doesn't mean you should change it for your own personal survivor content.
I feel like JT should be on this list twice, because he went from a perfect game, to a dumb game on HvV (which he didn’t know at the time but we did cause ya know... editing, so there can be some arguments to be made for him there) to a literally why are you here- what are you doing- this makes no sense game... like I was genuinely so excited to see JT on game changers because he played his first season SO WELL and I was convinced that HvV was a fluke because no one on the island knew Russell or how Russell played. But by the first couple of episodes it was just very clear he had lost his touch and it was so disappointing
Honestly number one should be all the old schoolers from season 40, I mean wtf was that , people? You played the season like you never watched a single season, let alone win one! rookie mistakes, naive social games, and blindsided like blind moles .. I really was so hyped for that season and I wanted more from them , But all I got was my favorite players been taken out one by one way too soon in a very underwhelming fashion..
The game got cutthroat, they were all millionaires for 10-15 years, and they were paid just to be on the season. Is it really that shocking that most of them couldn't cut muster, or didn't really care enough to give it their all?
Cochran’s returning appearance in game changers was a disappointment. He was only on for one day and quit after his interaction with Debbie after kindly giving her advice and an advantage. Such a disappointment. It’s no wonder he didn’t come back for WAW.
An idea for a similar video would be "contestants who shouldn't have returned in the first place". I can think of various people who could've saved themselves some trouble had they not participated as returnees: Jenna Morasca, Shirin, Caleb, Zeke, Sandra on Game Changers, Colton, Brandon Hantz are a few names that come to mind. And another idea: "the most disappointing contestants on their first season" - contestants who promised a lot, but ended up being boring and lame characters. Zeke and Caleb would fit here as well, alongside maybe Steph from Thailand, Crystal from Gabon, and others who have been presented to us before the season as one thing, but then we saw the complete opposite of what were promised.
While I think there's no denying Boston Rob is an All-Time great character, and I personally count him as a two-time winner, his play on Marquesas did not merit him being selected for All-Stars. He was chosen because of his persona. That said, he vindicated the choice with his play that season.
Parvati for Micronesia and Boston Rob for All-Stars immediately come to mind. At the time their selections for their initial returns were rather weak. Rob being a pre-Jury boot in his season, and Parvati being best known for getting naked with Yul and Ozzy in hers. It's thankful it played out this way though, as both showcased their talents and validated their selections.
@@jacobwilliams1223 If Parvati's return was somewhat unexpected, there was nothing weird about Boston Rob being on All-Stars. Yes, he was a pre-jury boot on Marquesas, but if you had to pick one person from that season to play again it would be Boston Rob. He was easily the most memorable character from that season despite not making the jury. No one was surprised at the time to see Boston Rob included, as opposed to Amber, who was the truly weird choice.
Flame JT all you want. If they had watched Samoa and knew Russel was a garbage human they wouldn’t have made the move. Also if the move would have worked it would have been one of the most innovative moves of all time.
"Survivors greatest players and Candace"
Your delivery killed me
It should have been Survivors greatest players and Candice and Amands.
@@kellydaunis in casting production's defence, they needed hot women on a major season just in case it started to go bad
Why not say survivors greatest players and Randy..
Or and sugar.
I mean Candice is at least better then them
Kelly Daunis wyd putting amanda in that category when amanda is one of the best to never win… girl just doesnt know to speak to a jury
@@kellydaunis amanda just sucks at speaking her mind to the jury but do not think that the castaway who holds the record for most consecutive days on the island without being voted off did not belong on this season😂 you can dislike a person without devaluing their game, and amanda played 2 amazing games during which she set numerous firsts like backing it to back-to-back FTC appearances or the first successful flushing of an idol.
I never understood why James was so mad at Colby for aging. At least Colby was a challenge beast in his hay day. James couldn't even beat Courtney in his.
Yes, people forget his return was nearly a decade after Australia. It would be like asking Boston Rob to speed run along those planks again today against a cast who's 20 years younger
@@sarahlott8755 Boston Rob was a challenge menace in HvV but he got voted out early. He almost singlehandedly won the first 3 challenges for the villains. That was only a year less than Colby was away. A lot of these challenges are mind>matter and Colby dropped like crazy in both categories
It's also worth mentioning that he got man handled by coach, who's in fact older than him
@@domskillet5744 not to mention its not like colby did play in almost a decade he also was in all stars and between that and HvV thats 6 years
@KidCrippler As a fan of coach from his 1st season I was cheering like crazy when he beat Colby in that challenge 🤣. Tho id say losing to Courtney is more embarrassing lol
JT ran the heroes tribe! He may have ran it into the ground, but he was still steering the ship of the whole tribe
A very apt description
That's not really something to give him credit for. If he led a tribe to ruin, then he led it badly.
“Survivor’s greatest collection of characters… and Candice.” Laughed so hard at that, the most memorable thing she’s done IMO is get booted by her returnee tribe on Blood vs Water and just sit on Redemption Isle the whole time
Stop it, let’s not pretend the mutiny wasn’t iconic on every level, and her one-sided love affair with billy is the the stuff of cringey legend. Done with the Candice disrespect
@@hunterborne2763 tbh, I find Penner’s mutiny more memorable than Candice’s. Also her love affair is more memorable for being a Billy moment that involved Candice. Sorry but with those two examples I just can’t think of any moments with her specifically that she did, and the Redemption Island wasn’t disrespect, she fought her way through that for 12 days before being sent home.
Yh i dont get why she got brought back
@@warmcnugget7843 I mean Candice was hands down one of the biggest characters in Cook Islands, from the mutiny, to her one sided romance with Billy, to her romance with Adam, to the fact she was so hated by the Yul, Sundra, Ozzy and Becky she nearly had a meltdown at tribal saying she didn't do anything wrong to warrant that. Sure maybe a lot of those things are down to other people, but they made her a focus piece of the Cook Islands storyline
@@rodrigoesc3747 I still don't get why she was exactly on Heroes vs Villains, I see her on a Fans vs Favorites
I was also disappointed with Russell’s return in Redemption Island but that was of no fault of his own. (Well I suppose it was considering his reputation was of his own making) his tribe decided to vote him out by throwing a challenge and the season never lived up to the epic Russell vs Rob storyline we were promised. :(
Interestingly, the only returning players to get voted out pre merge in Guatemala, Redemption Island, South Pacific, and Philippines were both named Russell
I don't know if Russel ever stood a chance, though. They threw the challenge to get rid of him.
Johnny Fairplay was worse than Yau. Yau never stood a chance, but Fairplay pretty much quit.
A big part was HIS FAULT. He said himself to the tribe he needed to be a team guy this time now that there was film on him. Instead of helping at camp and guiding the tribe he went off right back to playing his solo game with the 2 girls
@@vaporterra I was so disappointed, but it wasn’t his fault. In a way it was flattering as they feared him so much. He’s also talked about some of the issues in his personal life that we’re going on at the time. Thankfully, he seems to be in a much better place now.
Completely agree about Wigglesworth! I hadn’t even watched Borneo when I first watched Second Chance, but I still felt the hype and subsequent disappointment by her performance on the season
They actually gave her a purple edit in second chance sadly, despite her actually playing a strong social game that wasn’t shown on camera.
She really blew it
I almost would put Yau-Man on Micronesia in a similar category as Rob Cesternino on All Stars. Two players who came up just short of winning their original seasons and for mostly that reason, other similar styled players opted to take them out of the equation right away.
Gotta defend JT here. Would agree if you said Gamechangers, but in HvV he took a huge risk that would've had a huge reward if he was right (and he honestly was partially right with Parvati). We obviously all knew what was really going on cuz we watched both tribes and experienced the dramatic irony, but if you look at it from just the Heroes side, an all women villain alliance kinda made sense in that era of survivor with Tyson, Rob, and Coach going back to back to back. We also have to remember that JT hadn't seen Samoa, and the only thing the cast was told about Russell was that he was definitely a villain. And while that's probably a clue to not give him an idol, it could also very well mean that he was just an asshole like Randy and not the strategic player Russell actually was. Idk, just my take I guess. I'd probably replace him with Danni in WaW. She was so many people's preseason sleeper pick, including Probst's, only to nuke her own game 6 days in for no reason. Great video though.
Honestly I don’t know why he gets so flack for heroes vs villains when he would’ve been almost guaranteed to be the first two time winner pick had the move gone right
I feel like you also have to remember that no one had seen somoa yet, so they had no idea what kind of player russell was. it was a totally valid move.
Here's the problem with JT's move, having no knowledge of what actually was going on with the villans tribe, you give someone you don't know a hidden immunity idol hoping that it will save him and he would join you at the merge. Even if Russell was on the outs of his tribe, there was no guarantee that he would join JT after the merge. The more likely scenario is what happened with Sandra, she stuck with the villans because she figured she was at least guaranteed final five with them as opposed to final 6 with the heroes. JT should've just used his idol at 10 himself. I know it sounds like Monday Morning Quarterbacking, however, to me giving someone you don't know an idol is a dunce level move.
But the problem is, he was SOOOOOO wrong about the move. That would require a lot of 'ifs' to result in a successful move. Even when Amanda brought up the idea of Russell possibly not being on the outs and actually running the tribe, JT dismissed that because he was so confident he had the right perception.
@@cxp0urqu01xj Honestly it only took one 'if'. If Russell was on the outs, it probably would have worked. And yes, he was completely wrong about this, but imagine if he had given it to Courtney or Sandra. At the most, you get Parvati or Russell out of the game with Parvati's idol washed if she played it on the wrong person. At the very least, if Parvati plays it on the right person, all the votes are negated, Sandra/Courtney goes home, but now both idols are washed and Sandra is much more likely to flip. Idk, I guess my problem with calling him disappointing is that he tried to do something to flip the tides completely to his favor, while the remaining heroes just threw in the towel and called it a day afterwards. Much more disappointed in those heroes than I was in JT.
Seeing JT write the letter in cursive kills me every time🤣
his penmanship was adorable tho 😭
He's from the south what do you expect
Awesome video! Would love to see the reverse of this - returnees who had little to no expectation and killed it (Parvati, Wentworth, Kimmi come to my mind)
How is Fairplay not on the list?! I was so hyped to see him return, and how he would play the game now that people knew what they were dealing with. And then he quit. Huge disappointment.
Apparently he had oral reconstructive surgery about two weeks prior due to a broken jaw. He wasn't given pain killers and Yau Man pushing his face against a boat didn't help. Nonetheless, it was disappointing to still see him go so early.
@@chanyeolsass5201 if you watch the video, Yau Man didn't push or tackle fairplay, he tripped and fell into the boat
@@junkerinhistrunker My bad, haha, Fairplay's constant complaints afterwards about Yau Man "pushing him," and "tackling," him against the boat messed with me.
@@chanyeolsass5201 The other issue there was CBS was refusing to give him the pain medications he had prescribed to him (even though they had told him pre-season that he would be able to keep taking them) meanwhile he was bitter that James (I think?) was still getting nicotine patches.
I still think Fairplay, since he was technically voted out, should not be considered a quitter.
@@spencerclark4726 Whatever the reasons ultimately behind it (and I'm going to take every excuse Fairplay gives with a grain of salt), the fact of the matter is he showed up, then didn't play the game. You cannot deny how disappointing that is. Imagine your favorite sports team acquires a star player, and that player is then injured and misses the season. It may not be the player's fault, but it's still a huge disappointment.
Before watching the video in my opinion
1. Caleb - Game Changers
2. Aubry - Edge of Extinction
3. Russell Swan - Philippines
4. Vytas - Second Chances
5= Sugar - Heroes vs Villains
5= Bobby Jon - Guatemala
😬 At least you'll be surprised. BTW love the name!
Caleb should have never been brought back for Game Changers
@@IdoledOut Hey appreciate it! Love your work and passion!
lmao 0/6
here was my thought
1. Francesca-Caramoan
2. Ciera-Game Changers
3. Colby-All Stars
4. Rupert-Blood vs Water
5. JT-Game Changers
Honorable Mention: Russell-Redemption Island
Erik in FvF 2 he was purpled the whole time and he made it to top5...
Well I'd say it's funny considering how he bashed Dawn in FTC and in RHAP's podcast, idk how much of his nastiness did production had to filter
@@bartallen8121 I looked into this I think he was purple because he called out production during filming.
@@Lsaldana92 don't blame him considering caramoan is just dollar tree micronesia
Kind of expected to see Stephanie LeGrossa up here. She was America's dream girl after her first season where everyone wanted her to win, when she came back and was winning...the country lost their love for her and didn't want her to take the prize anymore and then she got a third shot and was gone super early with the same miserable attitude that she showed in her second showing. She's the only player that I can remember my Survivor friends being super hyped up for the return of and by the end, they were pretending they had never even rooted for her in the first place. It was disappointment on multiple levels.
I think if Tony does a better job in S34, he’s unable to decrease his threat level in S40 and spends multiple weeks on the Edge. So there’s nothing to criticize if you take the long view.
For sure, it definitely worked out in the long run, heartbreaking as it was in real time
@@IdoledOut Yeah. He got a nice vacation out of it at least. Not like the pre-jury boots this year.
lmao this is a reach. S34 is a bad game for tony, period.
@@JG-kk1mr Of course, but he was able to make lemonade from it.
Honestly Colby wasn’t terrible in heroes vs.Villains,he dodged quit a few bullets and was the last hero standing!
Socially, it was arguably his best game.
I agree👍
My take is that he showed such little fight throughout the season that the remaining villains literally considered him the smallest threat of the heroes.
"Your competition is a who's who of who's available."
That just cracks me up.
Game Changers Tony walked so WaW Tony could run.
I didn’t mind Wiglesworth’s return in Cambodia. Fifteen years can really change a person, apparently she didn’t take the bait in Cambodia and wouldn’t bring the drama like she did in season 1 which is why she got an invisible edit. Regardless of how she performed I love that she got a second chance, made it to the jury and I loved her final speech. Fully agree about JT and I was more disappointed with James in HvV than Colby, his attitude that season was too cringe.
James was incredibly obnoxious and I was glad to see the end of him, I just kept thinking he only ever got that position from stupidity and luck. Luck that it was Aaron getting voted out, and stupidity that he had two idols and got voted out.
His trash talking and his treatment of Stephanie were gross.
“Survivor’s greatest collection of characters… and Candice.” I LOVE THE CANDICE SLANDER LMAO
As much as everyone was disappointed with Colby in HvV, I can see him returning for one more shot, if that supposed Legends season ever comes to fruition. Also, 5/20 isn't too bad. Staying under the radar is a form of strategy, as seen with Sandra. It's just one we weren't expecting him of all people, to use.
Everyones favorite charecters and Candice, lmao
Ah, the familiar sound of Idoled Out's iconic "come on in guys". ;) Thank you for another awesome video!
My Return to EoE was the best return of all time 😏
HI Chip
Hi!
Where's Terry Deitz? We waited so long for him to return only for him to immediately be pulled out (given the circumstances I'm glad he stepped out). It almost feels insulting that they haven't brought him back yet since he didn't really play a second time at all
Weirdly enough, Heroes vs Villains was my first season ever and I remember really loving the Colby/Tom duo because the sense of "two former icons now playing from the bottom" was captured so perfectly within just that one season. Especially with Colby then pulling through to the final five.
Thank you for not putting Danni
I would never! Brenda was my number six to be honest
A few others imo should be on this list or at least honourable mentions:
-Big Tom (All-Stars)
-Lex (All-Stars)
-Kathy (All-Stars)
-Fairplay (Micronesia)
-Ami (Micronesia)
-James (Heroes vs Villains)
-Russell (Philippines)
-Dawn (Caramoan)
-Tasha (Cambodia)
-Spencer (Cambodia)
-JT (Game Changers)
-Varner (Game Changers)
-Danni (Winners at War)
-Wendell (Winners at War)
Rob C(All Stars)
Penner(Micronesia)
Amanda(Heroes vs Villains)
Randy(Heroes vs Villains)
Stephanie(Heroes vs Villains)
Russell(Redemption Island)
Kass(Cambodia)
Ozzy(Game Changers)
Natalie(Winners at War)
Kathy and Lex got screwed over. They were controlling Mogo Mogo.
it’s unfair to both Ami tbh given her Micronesia run happened right after a tragic loss for her and Russell S. for Philippines is just unlucky the Matsing idol was a rice basket prop.
Malcolm in GC devastated me.
I don't think ANY of us have been able to recover from that.
Thanks JT.
I see where you go with Colby. But the man did make the final 5
I think the most disappointing was Boston Rob on Winners at War for thinking he could use his newbies strategy against seasoned veterans.
For real I was like what are you doing while watching it I love Rob but as Ben put it it was the lack of respect for people who’ve already won the game
> Re-Upload
I guess you can say this video is a returnee
If you want to remember what Yau-Man did, he also started fire with his glasses just like he did in Fiji.
I was very disappointed that Yau-Man went out so early in Micronesia, and never got a shot again. Shoulda won in Fiji but frikin Dreamz didn’t keep his word.
To be fair, Dreamz goes out if he doesn’t do what he did.
One thing about Heroes vs Villains is that t was filmed right after Samoa, so nobody know what Russell was like. I’m sure if JT saw that season he would have never given Russell an idol and he only thought of the all women’s alliance idea because of Parvati’s history
I don't agree about Colby though. He had a better social game the third time around and was the last hero standing. I remember wondering if he didn't lower his challenge threat level on purpose, which would have been a masterclass.
I get your point but, when you think Colby you think the challenge beast. Disappointment isn’t always about actual performance it’s about what you expect. Kinda the reason I disagree with a couple on this list cause I don’t think they were actually bad in the return just not what we expected
@@claysmith1856 but it depends on what the expectations are right ? I'm expecting some kibd of change from a returnee, so I've been rarely disappointed to be honest. Except for Tony in Game Changers haha
DO NOT DISRESPECT CANDICE WOODCOCK CODY!! Iconic queen
Candice is legit my favorite part of Blood vs Water, if that makes my Candice slander here go down easier 😂
@@IdoledOut okay that makes it a little better! She was awesome on BvW but I loved her on all her seasons💀
I wanna see her come back again because she wasn’t given a fair chance on BvW
@@clovesevina9763 Me too
JT definitely gets a bad rap for his second outing in Heroes Vs Villains. JT giving the idol to Russel was an awful move to us because we saw Russel play the season prior. However, everybody on the HvV season didn’t get to see Russel’s game play since both seasons were shot back to back. It was a smart move at the time I think and would have been one of the best if it actually worked out for JT. Also think they would not even suspect a girls alliance or giving the idol to Russel if they actually saw the season prior. Idk maybe a hot take.
I can't remember the details but Yau Man and Cirie had some sort of an alliance that he betrayed in Fans v. Favorites. It's why he did not try as hard to save himself...he knew he was done.
I know it's funny to see Coach frogmarch Colby. But the two of them are only 2.5 years apart. I don't think it's that egregious on Colby's part. I'm 26 now, same as he was in Australia. I can't imagine I'll be in the same shape when I'm 35.
What a great topic for video! Haven't seen this idea nowhere else yet
I never understood why they kept bringing candice back she wasnt the best player and was really annoying in cook islands sooo...
Cutthroat pretty blonde
Well, I have never understood why they brought back Amanda.
@@kellydaunis i actually like Amanda and thought she was gonna win China until her terrible final tribal performance lol
@@shesjustafrienduhhafriend8655 then she gave Parvati the win because of her terrible final tribal performance lol.
2:20 Spot on. Parvati and Amanda were not all-star material when they were cast on Fans Vs. Favorites. They reminded me of Amber and Jenna Lewis on All-Stars. Parvati and Amanda became famous from their returnee season.
JT did so bad at his other seasons he returned on that I truly believe his win was a fluke. The players that season were just dumb
We need another Yau-Man return! He WILL win!
In an interview with Tina, she said there was a reason why he was underperforming and not doing well in the game. She said that she wouldn't state why, but there is a reason.
Old Age I’m guessing.
J.T. was nowhere near as bad as Tyson voting himself out or Amanda giving up a clue while Colby sat in a bed watching a movie. He lasted longer than his fellow Tocantins players, Boston Rob, and Tom. Not bad. Or maybe I just have a mancrush on him during tthe intro when he does that turn while holding the hero flag.
JT made an all time blunder, but all things considered he had least the idea to play a different kind of game than the first time. He's was doing decently and tried to make a big move which is commendable but just had a bad read, it happens.
I really want yau man to come back... love him on fiji
For the 1st upload of this l, halfway through the video, it was lagging for me. I refreshed the page and it was GONE! I was like wth?
SURVIVOR's greatest collection of characters AND candice!??.... I had to stop the vídeo and rewind just to make sure i heard right!!!
OMG that was brutal 😂😂😂🤣
This could just be the fact I had zero expectations that Wigglesworth would be anything but Wigglesworth but I never found her Second Chances run disappointing. The game had changed, she hadn't, she still made a decently long run, didn't do anything immensely dumb and let's face it Second Chances had a very deadly cast as well the fans picked it! (CBS provided the short list but we narrowed it to the end).
I mean did we think she was (or any of the older school players) was going to mastermind the game and run to the end?
Thought my phone was glitching closed and reopened the video twice
My bad, should be good now!
Even tho I watched the original upload, Ill watch again for idoled out
Appreciate you!
Describing Heroes v Villains as "a major celebration of Survivor's greatest characters and Candace"... ouch. No lies detected, but ouch. Also, Colby's disappointing performance was really just his defeated attitude. He clearly wasn't having fun and probably should have declined to return.
He came back as a favor.
Was gonna comment about the black screens
Not sure what happened there! But here it is... with actual footage!
Funny, I was just thinking the same thing about Colby the other day, bummed he didn’t do as well in HvV.
Your delivery and writing never fails to make me laugh lol
Literally all of "game changers"
Idk if I agree with most of these. I wouldn't call JT, Colby, and to a lesser extent GC Tony "disappointing" because at least they provided a lot of entertainment value while they were there. It was sad to watch Colby fail over and over again after being such a challenge beast in his prior seasons, but it made for compelling TV and that last confessional of his is probably one of the best of all time. I do agree that Yau Man and Kelly were disappointing as returnees because they didn't deliver much of anything. Aubry in EoE, Sugar, Monica Padilla, Kass, JFP, were all disappointing.
Sugar gave the best comeback on a challenge after losing her bra. But the rest went downhill quickly...
Really great video! The only off note for me was the bit about JT's handwriting. I think in 2021 using feminine as an insult towards men should be retired. Other than that it was really well put together.
I think that's just how Russell or parvati described it in the season
I appreciate you giving this more context, and certainly using feminine as an insult was normal for when this season was filmed. I think Parvati and Russell had a field day calling out JT on this move, and with that buffet of options there were other fun ways the description could have gone.For me it feels off-note to highlight that particular line in 2021. That said, I think Idoled Out is great and I hope these comments read as a fan pointing out a gaffe/spinach in teeth moment, and not a hate comment. Also thanks for being kind in your reply even though we have different takes- UA-cam can be a scary place.
@@Sunlit_Reading I’m also pretty sure Amanda actually physically wrote the letter, and JT just chose the words? (That could be wrong, correct me if so. And I agree femininity shouldn’t be used as an insult)
I was thinking the same thing, glad you said something!
I agree, thank you for mentioning that. I will be more careful with my language in the future, and I appreciate you bringing this up in a respectful way!
Lol the shade on Candice got me giggling.
For All Stars what messed them up was the 3 tribes on six. If you put 2 teams the good players could have team up. Like Lex because he had Ethan and Colby has meat shields he went far.
Maaan the "Tony is GOAT" stuff gets old so quick. Dude wins Cagayan mostly by luck (thanks to Kass's flips and irrational RI-esque Brob's cult behavior by Trish and Woo all season long) and then loses instantly on GC to the point where absolutely nobody on WaW thinks he's a threat and everyone thinks he's a goat until like 2/3rds through. If Sandra's two wins were extremely lucky, so were Tonys.
THANK YOU! I really don't get all the Tony hype. He was just lucky to be in a season where there were only 2 other people playing the game (Spencer and Tasha) while Kass was doing all the dumbest moves she could and Trish and Woo were the greatest goats ever. Tony's game is just over the top and in your face, but that doesn't mean it's a great game.
I'm just glad Spencer had a deep run both times he played
What the hell did Candice even do to have a fan base? I only remember her as the girl who's never remembered.
I wasn’t disappointed with Tony in Game Changers. He showed up with the biggest target on his back and realistically had no shot at winning anyway, so why not get a little silly with it? You could also argue that he doesn’t win WaW without learning from his mistakes in GC.
Wigglesworth moved like a snail compared to the post H VS V gameplay.. but with that she made it pretty far for someone so out of it... I was glad to see her at the merge.
3:07 That's literally the only thing that instantly popped into my head when you asked that. 🤣🤣
Honestly I wasn't dissapointed by Kelly. if I'm being totally honest, she felt like a bit of a wet blanket in the first season. her only interesting trait was her back and forth on whether making an alliance and slowly destroying everyone was good or bad, which honestly just makes her look indescisive and easily manipulatable. Or she was a challenge beast on some of the lamest/easiest challenges. Sowhen she came back and continued to play like a wet blanket, I wasn't surprised.
My favorite part of these videos are all the subtle shade comments you make 😂
Pre video my picks:
Colby (3rd Season)
Tasha
Varner (3rd Season)
Brenda
Corinne
Notice how Colby got worse and worse while Jerri got better and better. The TRUE star of Australian Outback got the last laugh.
tony's gamechangers performance was to lower his threat level for future seasons. he's playing chess while everyone else was playing checkers.
I hated to see Colby, who proved himself to be “the true hero of them all,” called out by James, a mean-spirited bully who was completely miscast.
I happened to watch HvV first and then got back to earlier seasons. I couldn't tell how the hell James ended up on the Heroes tribe judging by the way he behaved during the season. Then on his earlier two seasons he was so much more likeable and nice. It's like he did a complete 180 for HvV but still got cast based on his original merits.
@@DedoPorno James absolutely hates losing, while on both Fans vs Favs 1 and China he was usually in the dominating tribes and therefore was happier.
He won fan favorite that’s why plus he’s good tv
@@warmcnugget7843 Sure but both times he got blindsided out of nowhere (from his perspective at least) and both times he was a good sport about it. My impression of his early seasons was that he was among the few players who got knocked out surprisingly by close people and he was like "It's a game. Well done!". HvV was like his evil twin showed up instead of him.
Didn't catch, which part had glitches before?
Part of the Colby segment. If it was just a few seconds I would've just left it, but it was a decent chunk. Appreciate everyone mentioning it so I could fix it quickly!
@@IdoledOut I was going to ask “is all the black screens intentional? Is that to avoid copyrights?”
Tasha from Second Chance I would also add to this list. I liked her in Cagayan but the fact she made it to the final three as a goat is disappointing even when she got permission from her church to truly play.
Glad you said come on in guys
Interesting to hear your thoughts on Russell’s return in the Australian season
Haven't seen the season since it aired, all I can recall is being glad he had an early exit because his casting was gimmicky and was going to suck up airtime from the actual Australian players the longer he was in. Nothing against Russell personally, of course, I just wasn't tuning in to Survivor AU to see an American player play.
@@IdoledOut they should’ve cast him on Game Changers instead. Everyone would’ve kept him around because he’d be too unlikable to get any votes at the end anyways. Well maybe against Brad Culpepper, who knows lol.
Which season?
@@Tikitackfouls Australian survivor champions vs contenders (2018)
thank you for not changing your intro
Rupert in All Stars was really hard for me to watch. I remember watching him in Pearl Islands as a kid and he was my favorite to ever play (at that point) and then he just ruined it by his performance in All Stars.
Rupert is a case of his fame really getting to his head. Proclaimed and seen as the most popular Survivor contestant *period* he really let it give him an inflated ego. Which when things didn't go his way tended to have him become even more irritable and whiny than in Pearl Islands.
Where is FairPlay on Micronesia? He was the biggest villain of all time atm and quit in the first episode
I think Malcolm deserves an honroable mention for his flame outs in both Fans VS Favorites and Game Changers as well. One person I wish got another shot was Pete from Phillipines. I can only imagine how chaotic Cambodia would've been had Pete and Abi been paired together again.
Maaaaybe Malcolm in Caramoan, but I think he was playing a pretty good game in Game Changers until the surprise double tribal. The greatest man bun in history needs his fourth shot
Malcolm and Cirie need a Boston Rob esque season designed for them to win.
We had to have Tony's awful Game Changers game to get his WaW masterpiece.
The two biggest disappointments for me were JT wtf was he ever thinking? And Colby that was sad.
I Was Glad Jerri Came Back In Allstars n Heroes Vs Villians.... *She Should Have WON*
What about a reverse of this video. Top 5 (or 10) improved returnees.
Wentworth is great example obvs. Brad and Sarah in Game Changers etc
You said jt ruined his legacy by returning. Why does rob still have a golden legacy despite him pooping the bed everytime he's come back. He was a one hit wonder.
R u still gonna say “come on in guys” in the intro
No, this was the last time - was recorded before most recent episode. Future videos will just be 'come on in!'
@@IdoledOut Come on don't jump on the woke bandwaggon, just because one contestant wasn't ok with it doesn't mean you should change it for your own personal survivor content.
@@juanmora9190 y does it matter? He’s always said what Jeff says so he’s changing it just like Jeff changed it
@@quintineverly802 If it doesnt matter why change it then?
@@juanmora8683 I meant it shouldn’t matter to you. It mattered to Ricard so they changed it. Simple as that
Fairplay in Micronesia was the biggest disappointment for me
I feel like JT should be on this list twice, because he went from a perfect game, to a dumb game on HvV (which he didn’t know at the time but we did cause ya know... editing, so there can be some arguments to be made for him there) to a literally why are you here- what are you doing- this makes no sense game... like I was genuinely so excited to see JT on game changers because he played his first season SO WELL and I was convinced that HvV was a fluke because no one on the island knew Russell or how Russell played. But by the first couple of episodes it was just very clear he had lost his touch and it was so disappointing
JT on Game Changers was like he was permanently baked it didn't even feel like JT even knew where he was.
@@Brakiros true that lmao
Honestly number one should be all the old schoolers from season 40, I mean wtf was that , people? You played the season like you never watched a single season, let alone win one! rookie mistakes, naive social games, and blindsided like blind moles .. I really was so hyped for that season and I wanted more from them , But all I got was my favorite players been taken out one by one way too soon in a very underwhelming fashion..
The game got cutthroat, they were all millionaires for 10-15 years, and they were paid just to be on the season. Is it really that shocking that most of them couldn't cut muster, or didn't really care enough to give it their all?
Kim Spradlin in S40 winners at war
Cochran’s returning appearance in game changers was a disappointment. He was only on for one day and quit after his interaction with Debbie after kindly giving her advice and an advantage. Such a disappointment. It’s no wonder he didn’t come back for WAW.
An idea for a similar video would be "contestants who shouldn't have returned in the first place". I can think of various people who could've saved themselves some trouble had they not participated as returnees: Jenna Morasca, Shirin, Caleb, Zeke, Sandra on Game Changers, Colton, Brandon Hantz are a few names that come to mind.
And another idea: "the most disappointing contestants on their first season" - contestants who promised a lot, but ended up being boring and lame characters. Zeke and Caleb would fit here as well, alongside maybe Steph from Thailand, Crystal from Gabon, and others who have been presented to us before the season as one thing, but then we saw the complete opposite of what were promised.
While I think there's no denying Boston Rob is an All-Time great character, and I personally count him as a two-time winner, his play on Marquesas did not merit him being selected for All-Stars. He was chosen because of his persona. That said, he vindicated the choice with his play that season.
Parvati for Micronesia and Boston Rob for All-Stars immediately come to mind. At the time their selections for their initial returns were rather weak. Rob being a pre-Jury boot in his season, and Parvati being best known for getting naked with Yul and Ozzy in hers.
It's thankful it played out this way though, as both showcased their talents and validated their selections.
@@jacobwilliams1223 If Parvati's return was somewhat unexpected, there was nothing weird about Boston Rob being on All-Stars. Yes, he was a pre-jury boot on Marquesas, but if you had to pick one person from that season to play again it would be Boston Rob. He was easily the most memorable character from that season despite not making the jury. No one was surprised at the time to see Boston Rob included, as opposed to Amber, who was the truly weird choice.
@Tony Vlachos Fan Club You are so right
Hahaha. Kind of sad I could think of 20 off the top of my head but it's it's happen to some
THE CANDICE SHADE HAHAHHHHAAHAHAHAH
Flame JT all you want. If they had watched Samoa and knew Russel was a garbage human they wouldn’t have made the move. Also if the move would have worked it would have been one of the most innovative moves of all time.
Kim in winners at war was another big disappointment
Always appreciate the Candice sass 😂