March 13, 1992 - LSU vs. Tennessee Carlus Groves grabs and pulls away Shaquille O'Neal, that sparks a huge brawl. Shaq had 16 points, 16 rebounds, 2 blocks.
He grew a lot bigger without training on shooting and only relied on size and talent. In his era the post game was King and he naturally had that with Size
LOL!.....yeah, and I think Shaq overreacted to how this guy fouled him........glad to see Shaq get ejected......as far as Groves, well, I really don't think he deserved to get ejected......his foul on Shaq, although not a traditional foul, was not done in ill attempt.....he was just realizing an easy dunk was coming so he decided to simply grab Shaq at the waist.....sure, its annoying, but not fist throwing worthy.......
This game was absolutely the last straw when LSU coach told Shaq to leave LSU early and declare for NBA draft because he was receiving too many hard fouls and cheap shots. Also, the referees were not making the calls when players were constantly hacking him. Shaq got sick and tired of the cheap shots and lashed out
Prior to that last foul, I don't see the hard fouls and cheap shots that you're referencing. Refs were calling fouls and even some that were borderline. At 0:47 both are pushing a bit and Shaq's doing most of the pushing. Having your hand on a guy was part of the defensive landscape during that time. For example, look at the LSU defender at 2:29 and how he has his foreman on the guy's back. That was normal back then. As to the last foul that started the brawl, the defender was just trying to prevent Shaq from making the shot. He wasn't trying to hurt him.
@@Drumpro31lol wtf are you talking about? That wasn’t a dangerous foul at all. Shaq tried to gather and go into a dunk but he pulled him back as he barely got 2 feet off the ground
And the mild-mannered Dale Brown, lol. Not sure, considering his size, that Shaq needed his muscles. An obvious intentional foul, but nothing like the responses.
And should’ve have been kicked out for pushing an opposing team player who simply grab Shaq to prevent in from scoring and immediately got elbow in the face
@@redtidepeoms2987nah nah. Fuck all that soft shit. Let the players talk their shit and play with some passion. Not a lot of players nowadays both pro and college really play with that raw passion. You can’t “control” how you react whenever you get hyped. Imagine really dunking on somebody in front of your peers and having the discipline to not look or even say anything to the guy you just t-bagged. That’s the most unathletic, 60’s type of playstyle. Imagine Shaq not have his personality but that level of ability. It’s taking special, spontaneous and iconic moments from the game. Trash talking has been an INTEGRAL part of any player’s DNA.
@@FNRLxWILLIE I’m 44 and grew up playing aggressive ball both ends of the floor, hard fouls and the offensive player driving his shoulder into your sternum that was part of the game. Hell I’m even down for grabbing a rebound then cocking elbows letting the opponent know to back up 🤣 That spinning back elbow could break facial bones, damage eye socket or even potentially blind someone for life from simply getting grabbed at the waist from behind. Little homie even tried holding shaq up so he didn’t fall cause he was just about to take flight and got elbowed. When you over an opponent to where he is flat out grabbing you already winning. College ball you only get 5 fouls an before you know it he founded out the game. In my eyes again freeing up in that era that sucker elbow was straight up disrespectful. Back in the day we use to have massive fights after the game if the opponent pull some disrespectful chyt like Shaq did. That was some Ron Artest James Harden elbow 😂just wrong
I was at this game. A day or two before, when the LSU team arrived at my university (Samford) to practice for the tourney, I was the first one to shake Shaq's hand when he got off the bus. He was wearing a J.J. from Good Times hat. At the end of the practice, he did a Dominque type windmill dunk, which amazed everybody.
I played against him and scored 18, but he got the buckets when it counted, and his team beat us and sent us home by such a close margin that i could feel every mile😢
The overall the game changed for the worse. It’s such a soft league now almost no physicality. I believe we probably seen the best brand of players and basketball going from the 90’s into the early 2000’s
This is the nineties, not the sixties. The rims are breakaway. I played ball in high school in the 90’s (and could throw down). Check 3:51. The box enclosure isn’t there to hide the spring, so it looks different, but it’s still breakaway.
He didn’t. He grabbed him by the waist and held him down. He didn’t undercut nor did shove in the back or take a shot at his head. Shaq overreacted and Dale Brown was a whiny biotch.
@@puterbacyep and groves stood his ground against the entire LSU team while shaq faded to the back and tried not to get involved, even though his overreaction is what started the melee
@@puterbacpulling someone down by the waist when their mid air is dangerous and flagrant it’s not a defensive move in basketball Shaq had every right to respond like that.
@@CLS_7301 A pull like that is relatively safe. The feet will land underneath his balance point, the hips will be back, and the torso forward. The defender was also steadying Shaq with the hold.
Shaq was the most dominating player I’ve ever seen in college hoops. I honestly can’t think of anyone else who has ever been close. Im 47 so let me know if I’m forgetting someone but I don’t think so.
They filmed blue chips right next to purdue university In the summer of 1992 I remember seeing all the people from that movie and all the basketball player extras at 1 of the local bars Except for shaq, He wasn't 21 yet Find by the liquor board
I remember watching this game live. I lost all respect for Dale Brown after this. I used to like him as a coach and enjoyed watching his over achieving teams in the final four. But after this I always wanted him to lose.
Shaq is so raw here... Missing a lot of bunnies right at the rim that he would be making at a high percentage in the NBA Even on that fast break play... Very raw, in the NBA he learned how to do no looks, crossovers etc 😂 Folks think of shaq as this big brute who dunked it every time but he was very skilled
@@Xx-po1funo...because those old folks played against kids/women....older players played like wnba and people simply call them tougher just to make an argument😂😂😂
This oddly contributed to the Kentucky Duke Elite 8 classic in 1992. UK lost at LSU in the regular season. UK beat a Shaqless LSU in the semis of the SEC tournament and then won the title. The #2 seed in the East likely goes to some other team if LSU beats Kentucky in the SEC tournament semifinal round.
I sometimes forget just how ridiculously dominant Shaq was. He literally was bigger than everybody on the court. They were triple-teaming him, and he was so powerful and agile he would just spin through it and still get a shot up. People always said thank God he made Shaq a teddy bear because he could have literally killed someone on the court.
I like Shaq, but love how Carlus Groves got into his head that night. Dale Brown (rhymes with "CLOWN") was classless taking a shot at an opposing player. Go VOLS!
Dale Brown is the best L.S.U. Mens Basketball Coach of all time! He was a Great Motivator! X's and O's was not his Forte! However, he could get his Team to Run through a Brickwall for him. And the Team Loved how he had their Backs!!!
Very raw doesn’t have the best touch around the basket - but holy shit he kinda stands out doesn’t he 😂😂 the physicality and movement at that size is incredible. Obviously he got bigger and his touch got Much better. A true freak athlete
Yes I watched Shaq when he played for LSU (with Chris Jackson was still named Chris Jackson). He was a monster; no one could stop him. Shaq would get fouled intentially like this most nights. Coach Dale Brown told him to enter the NBA draft to avoid this crap.
Watching this shaq really lets you know he polished his game immensely when he went to the nba.
Even so, you can tell from this footage he was just about as ready as one could be, going into the NBA.
Now he’s retired and has worked on sports boardcast news
It's weird to see him take the ball up the court on the fast break, shoot 10-footers, and make free throws
Right I was shocked at so many of those misses, improved so much.... damn shame about those FT's....
He fouled out with 6 pts against Iowa when Iowa handed LSU their behind
Probably the only footage of Shaq nailing 2 freethrows in a row
3:03 😮 have to see to believe!😲
Haha!
Was that just luck or did he used to be good at free throws?
His form was so much better here. It got worse and worse throughout his career
I noticed that too hahaha
His free throw form looked so much better here
yah he didnt seem to have that dumbass hitch...not sure where he picked that up at. but big mistake.
He grew a lot bigger without training on shooting and only relied on size and talent. In his era the post game was King and he naturally had that with Size
I think it had to do with a broken hand issue he had that wouldn’t allow the wrist to bend.
Yeah he wasn't taking baby juice yet
Crazy how the whole team was guarding Shaq lol
The man Groves was ahead of his time. Already figured out the Hack-A-Shaq method before the NBA got around to it😂
LOL!.....yeah, and I think Shaq overreacted to how this guy fouled him........glad to see Shaq get ejected......as far as Groves, well, I really don't think he deserved to get ejected......his foul on Shaq, although not a traditional foul, was not done in ill attempt.....he was just realizing an easy dunk was coming so he decided to simply grab Shaq at the waist.....sure, its annoying, but not fist throwing worthy.......
@@trevorregay9283 If Grove falls while holding the heavier Shaq it could be a nasty injury for both of them
@@trevorregay9283they were hacking the shit out of him the whole gave🤷🏼♂️
@@trevorregay9283 Shaq could of been hurt ....& in today's game that would be a flagrant foul
They changed the rules. No more Hack A Shaq. They'll call a flagrant. 2 shots and possession
This game was absolutely the last straw when LSU coach told Shaq to leave LSU early and declare for NBA draft because he was receiving too many hard fouls and cheap shots. Also, the referees were not making the calls when players were constantly hacking him. Shaq got sick and tired of the cheap shots and lashed out
Prior to that last foul, I don't see the hard fouls and cheap shots that you're referencing.
Refs were calling fouls and even some that were borderline.
At 0:47 both are pushing a bit and Shaq's doing most of the pushing.
Having your hand on a guy was part of the defensive landscape during that time. For example, look at the LSU defender at 2:29 and how he has his foreman on the guy's back. That was normal back then.
As to the last foul that started the brawl, the defender was just trying to prevent Shaq from making the shot. He wasn't trying to hurt him.
@nicksavov5027 Shaq was constantly getting cheap shots and fouled throughout the entire NCAA 1991-1992 season. This game was the icing on the cake
but shaq got the similar treatment in the pros also. you can't ref shaq, for regular player is a foul, but for shaq is not.
WHEN U FOUL THAT LOW
IN THE STREETS YOU MIGHT BE GONE
@@nicksavov5027 You don't see it because he's so big and you don't see the impact, but he's constantly getting hammered.
Real teammates. LSU Coach is badass too. Loved it all
Nah coaches shouldn't be confronting opposing players. They know damn well the player can't touch them.
I'm knocking out any coach that's dumb enough to swing on me during a scuffle lmao that's clown shit
@@Gboi8they also know how dangerous it is to pull a guy backwards going up in the air it goes both ways
@@Drumpro31lol wtf are you talking about? That wasn’t a dangerous foul at all. Shaq tried to gather and go into a dunk but he pulled him back as he barely got 2 feet off the ground
@@Drumpro31 huh? no seriously wtf are you talking about
Interesting to see the mild-mannered Allan Houston being on the front line during the brawl lol
Allan was and is as nice a guy as you’ll ever meet
Ya he's too nice. I'm a pistons fan I hated his soft demeanor
And the mild-mannered Dale Brown, lol. Not sure, considering his size, that Shaq needed his muscles. An obvious intentional foul, but nothing like the responses.
LSU Coach was first one to have Shaqs back!!!
He got out there quick af
And should’ve have been kicked out for pushing an opposing team player who simply grab Shaq to prevent in from scoring and immediately got elbow in the face
@@redtidepeoms2987nah nah. Fuck all that soft shit. Let the players talk their shit and play with some passion. Not a lot of players nowadays both pro and college really play with that raw passion. You can’t “control” how you react whenever you get hyped. Imagine really dunking on somebody in front of your peers and having the discipline to not look or even say anything to the guy you just t-bagged. That’s the most unathletic, 60’s type of playstyle. Imagine Shaq not have his personality but that level of ability. It’s taking special, spontaneous and iconic moments from the game. Trash talking has been an INTEGRAL part of any player’s DNA.
@@FNRLxWILLIE I’m 44 and grew up playing aggressive ball both ends of the floor, hard fouls and the offensive player driving his shoulder into your sternum that was part of the game.
Hell I’m even down for grabbing a rebound then cocking elbows letting the opponent know to back up 🤣
That spinning back elbow could break facial bones, damage eye socket or even potentially blind someone for life from simply getting grabbed at the waist from behind.
Little homie even tried holding shaq up so he didn’t fall cause he was just about to take flight and got elbowed. When you over an opponent to where he is flat out grabbing you already winning. College ball you only get 5 fouls an before you know it he founded out the game. In my eyes again freeing up in that era that sucker elbow was straight up disrespectful.
Back in the day we use to have massive fights after the game if the opponent pull some disrespectful chyt like Shaq did. That was some Ron Artest James Harden elbow 😂just wrong
@@FNRLxWILLIE Bro if a coach runs up on me and swings during a scuffle you best believe I'm knocking that senior citizen out 😂
head coach says "hold my beer" hahaha NEVER seen a coach do that ever. Respect
Back when Shaq was making Brick layers jealous. But he was a rebounding cyborg.
No. 10 in the orange is that classic "hold me back!" guy. He actually wanted no part of that brawl but didn't want anyone to know it lol
Noticed this also. He was halfway towards just dancing out there, jumping around like an excited puppy.
So accurate 😆
Number 10 both teams 😂😂
@@newhaven22definitely was #10 for both teams
They do this in playground fights, too. 😂
Note, no one actually tried to fight Shaq.
They aren’t insane.
Chuck did.
that was actually a clean fould, Shaq is just being petty as always
Shaq has never punched anyone
Okay then you have our permission to go seek a fight with the Shaqster tell us how it went 😩
Coach with the old man rage. Good stuff.
Coach was looking for an early grave tbh
I was at this game. A day or two before, when the LSU team arrived at my university (Samford) to practice for the tourney, I was the first one to shake Shaq's hand when he got off the bus. He was wearing a J.J. from Good Times hat. At the end of the practice, he did a Dominque type windmill dunk, which amazed everybody.
I played against him and scored 18, but he got the buckets when it counted, and his team beat us and sent us home by such a close margin that i could feel every mile😢
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😂
Suuuuurrrreeeeeee you were there buddy
He drove me to the cricket store.
Damn I miss this type of basketball the inside game. Shaq would have been awesome to watch in college.
The overall the game changed for the worse. It’s such a soft league now almost no physicality. I believe we probably seen the best brand of players and basketball going from the 90’s into the early 2000’s
he’s forcing nearly all of his shots though…not much footwork here, but he developed that later
Shaq making two free throws in a row is quite impressive
"Where's the Tennessee defense? Watching O'Neal Dunk."
These announcers crack me up 😂
No breakaway rims made for such a unique sound and came with backboard breaking dunks. Awesome
This is the nineties, not the sixties. The rims are breakaway. I played ball in high school in the 90’s (and could throw down). Check 3:51. The box enclosure isn’t there to hide the spring, so it looks different, but it’s still breakaway.
JJ Reddick said the physicality today is similar to this 😂😂
& this ain't even an NBA game .
Reddick is on drugs.
JJ reddick was a plumber 😂 he don’t know ball. He just sat in a corner his whole career, shooting. 3s
Anything JJ says can go right in the trash simply because he went to duke
Ridic is a idiot
@@mustafahmed5954facts
This is gods work you are doing dunkman
Man I miss Shaq. He did stuff that we think every Big Man should do. 😂
Yeah like sex
Took every rebound damn
🤣🤣Facts!
It's a highlight video, so it shows the rebounds that he got, not ones that he missed.
In highlight videos, they usually make every shot too.
@@nicksavov5027😂
Uhhh *ANY* fight that Shaq is involved in is infamous. Dude is fucking YUUUGE!
*YEP*
"fight"
I can not believe I just watched Shaq make 2 free throws I really had to rewind and make sure I wasn’t seeing stuff.
"I've never done boxing." 😂
Carlus Groves most memorable sports moment...
“I don’t think Groves had any malicious intent…” 🤦♂️
He didn’t. He grabbed him by the waist and held him down. He didn’t undercut nor did shove in the back or take a shot at his head. Shaq overreacted and Dale Brown was a whiny biotch.
@@puterbacyep and groves stood his ground against the entire LSU team while shaq faded to the back and tried not to get involved, even though his overreaction is what started the melee
@@puterbacpulling someone down by the waist when their mid air is dangerous and flagrant it’s not a defensive move in basketball Shaq had every right to respond like that.
@@CLS_7301 A pull like that is relatively safe. The feet will land underneath his balance point, the hips will be back, and the torso forward. The defender was also steadying Shaq with the hold.
@@CLS_7301 they’re
Shaq was the most dominating player I’ve ever seen in college hoops. I honestly can’t think of anyone else who has ever been close. Im 47 so let me know if I’m forgetting someone but I don’t think so.
there has never been an athlete like shaq, before or since, in any sport
some bozo probably incoming with some wilt fairytale 😄
Bro, I'm 49 and Shaq was a monster in college. No one compared to him since.
There was that star player from Western University named Neon Boudeaux!
God Shamgod.
man, shaq was so fast. very exciting to watch him play at this weight
The fact that Groves lived is probably the most impressive thing of all. Probably good Shaq pulled away. :D
not everybody can play like shaq, he's all about strength and stamina
A beast!
It's the high five for me. Definitely a FTN moment.
I'm not hip wut is FTN?...is it Fuck them ninjas?
Bruh those double and triple teams were wild.
That is an extreme overreaction. The dude just grabbed him to take a foul, nothing dirty here.
3:53 that tap back to shaq was beautiful!
That pass stood out to me too
I love the commentators desperately trying to turn Shaq into the victim here🤣
you sound stupid was that not a blatant flagrant foul???
Damn, coach stood on business.
Forget the fight! Why couldn’t LSU win a championship with all that talent…that’s the crazy thing!
Those early 90s brother haircuts be 🔥
Watching this reminds me of the movie Blue Chips. It's still a good movie and held up well.
They filmed blue chips right next to purdue university
In the summer of 1992
I remember seeing all the people from that movie and all the basketball player extras at 1 of the local bars
Except for shaq, He wasn't 21 yet Find by the liquor board
Why did he slow down his free throw shot in the NBA?
probably because he got injured after he got drafted into the nba
hand injury he’s not able to flick his wrist normally or sum like that
He had a wrist injury that gave him a hitch in his free throw
He probably punched a locker after this game and injured himself.
An in shape shaq is a scary sight
This made me so happy watching.
I remember watching this game live. I lost all respect for Dale Brown after this. I used to like him as a coach and enjoyed watching his over achieving teams in the final four. But after this I always wanted him to lose.
This man had zero touch in college 😂😂
Shaq and his 2 inch shooting range
I really believe we would have won the SEC Tournament Championship in 1992 had Shaq not been suspended.
Wait ah minute! They suspended Shaq for flailing his arms🤷🏿
R u serious😳
wouldnt had been an issue if the coach didnt jump in. dude woke up and said i want all the smoke
Watching that video, I had totally forgotten how athletic Shaq was. My goodness he was a stud on the court.
Shaq is so raw here... Missing a lot of bunnies right at the rim that he would be making at a high percentage in the NBA
Even on that fast break play... Very raw, in the NBA he learned how to do no looks, crossovers etc 😂
Folks think of shaq as this big brute who dunked it every time but he was very skilled
People say anything.Exactly what skill did you see in this clip?
If it wasn't a dunk his FG% couldn't have been more than 20%, and I'm sure his FT% was about as good
Shaq catches a basketball like it's a baseball
that’s a real coach right there😂😂 ran out and got in the mix lmao
The only way to stop the most dominant ever 💪🏽
LOL, Shaq wasn't even that dominant in college like Bill Russell, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and Hakeem Olajuwon were
@@Xx-po1funo...because those old folks played against kids/women....older players played like wnba and people simply call them tougher just to make an argument😂😂😂
Chamberlain. Nobody was close.
What, exactly, did Shaq dominate? Rebounds? Blocks? Points? He never even averaged 30ppg his entire career.
This oddly contributed to the Kentucky Duke Elite 8 classic in 1992. UK lost at LSU in the regular season. UK beat a Shaqless LSU in the semis of the SEC tournament and then won the title. The #2 seed in the East likely goes to some other team if LSU beats Kentucky in the SEC tournament semifinal round.
Can't fight fate. That Duke team should never let Kentucky get that close.
I’ll tell you wait. While Shaq was a demon on the court. You do know the Fab 5 was the star attraction of college basketball right?
The one announcer is so pro lsu it’s sickening
He was pulled around the waste...and the coach flies onto the court? You gotta be kidding me.
I sometimes forget just how ridiculously dominant Shaq was. He literally was bigger than everybody on the court. They were triple-teaming him, and he was so powerful and agile he would just spin through it and still get a shot up. People always said thank God he made Shaq a teddy bear because he could have literally killed someone on the court.
The announcers wishing so much for oneal not to get suspended 🤣
I am a UT fan but I loved Dale Brown’s reaction!
Brawl starts at 4:12
Shaq playing under the goal is like putting a sumo wrestler in front of the hockey goal.
How can you call this a "brawl" when there wasn't even a single punch thrown? Seriously dude, go watch a hockey game.
Dale Brown's fault. Then the team followed the coach's "lead"
funny how they call this a brawl but to a hockey fan ,this is a typical scrum after the whistle .
#10 on Tennessee got me deaddd lmaoooooo
I remember when Kentucky with the Unforgettables dragged LSU, what a game!
I like how #10 from Tennessee was leading with his face. Great tactics.
What was worst; the officiating, Shaq’s shooting, or the broadcast team? Yuk!
I like Shaq, but love how Carlus Groves got into his head that night. Dale Brown (rhymes with "CLOWN") was classless taking a shot at an opposing player. Go VOLS!
where can we watch all of shaq's lsu games?
Fight starts at 4:08...
AND DALE BROWN GETS IN THERE TOO! WHAT!?
Was watching this game. Gotta love dale brown.
50 rebounds later
“Oneal’s first shot of the game”
Two NBA legends were featured here. Big Shaq and Steph Curry.
Love that the coach came out for Shaqs back lol
Classy people do classy things.
by the end i thought he was just goin to say " both teams have been ejected from the game" lol
Shaq and Houston we're ballers
His free throw shot back then looks so much better
So many missed shots 5ft from the basket is the only thing I can't seem to understand since everybody says this era was peak college basketball
To be beat up like this throughout your career is just amazing........They had three players on him most of the game....Amazing player...
90s basketball was the best , the sport just took over
Dale Brown is the best L.S.U. Mens Basketball Coach of all time! He was a Great Motivator! X's and O's was not his Forte! However, he could get his Team to Run through a Brickwall for him. And the Team Loved how he had their Backs!!!
I can't see Shaq without hearing Godfrey "All my friends making fun of me, Shaq a big man, but Shaq is soft on the inside"
Very raw doesn’t have the best touch around the basket - but holy shit he kinda stands out doesn’t he 😂😂 the physicality and movement at that size is incredible. Obviously he got bigger and his touch got Much better. A true freak athlete
Shaq was accurate in saying he was clear precursor and style to Greek Freak. Also, Ralph Sampson was clear precursor and style to Wemby first
I see the Shaq brought his bricks to the game.
Christian Laettner still took Shaq to the woodshed
Shaq really didn't have many post moves.
Basketball. The gentlemen's sport of sports!
To be fair, any of us who had to listen to "(I Know I Got) Skillz" in the 1990s wanted to put a flagrant two on Shaq, as well.
Carlos Groves was an underrated baller!
Coach: ♫Let me go, let me shoop, to the big man in two piece suit♫
Dr. O'neal, in college, was a force!
With Shaquille dribbling, he looked like the first Bol Bol.
Yes I watched Shaq when he played for LSU (with Chris Jackson was still named Chris Jackson). He was a monster; no one could stop him. Shaq would get fouled intentially like this most nights. Coach Dale Brown told him to enter the NBA draft to avoid this crap.
Rht on Abdul Raof aka Chris Jackson
That first so called foul on Shaq was the beginning of the flop😂
#22 from Tennessee was like, " i aint got nothing to do with this"..