The Indian scout starts at Starting at £ 13,395 MSRP in the uk that's 15,992 Euro* in Ireland Starting at €17,495 difference €1.503 and I'm sure every small extra pushes the difference up more.
General trend Motorcycles is down 100% correct. Manufacturers will not make " Sensible " bikes . Too expensive . Too big . Too Heavy . Loaded with crap and usless rubbish . Slipper clutches. Ride modes. Forward radar . No use 180/ 200 hp. 6 Speed gear boxes. Suprised nobody has thought of a button that jerks you off on the move. Young people are not interested at all. Old generation like me dying off.
Your right, I'm no fan of all the extra electronics added to bikes, just more stuff to go wrong and difficult to fix. We are the last generation to really enjoy motorcycles with all the speed cameras and shit coming down the line.
@@pat2bornot2b 5 Years ago out in rural Lincolnshire Sun . afternoon on 1200vfr got caught speeding by "HELICOPTER" . Never saw or herd it. Fortunatly did not get a driving ban 55 years clean licence. Bikes were good fun but now do a bit of damage thousand pound to repair. Unfortunatly bikes are coming towards the end like us. Started 1962 200cc James Captain. Manufacturers just will not see the there folly and make repairable sensible bikes. Still marshall at Cadwell for Classic / Vintage club racing.
Cost here is a rip off, look at the new Triumph speed 400 as one example, it costs 5500 Euros on the continent and 6800 in Ireland. The IBT adds to the hassle and cost now too. I passed my A test in July 2024 and absolutely love biking and I regret not doing it years ago ! Insurance is also a rip off and the 50cc market has been wiped out by the sale of those horrible battery kids scooters that everyone seem to be on today, no license, no training, no insurance, riding on footpaths, kids not supposed to be on them under 16 yet I see them all the time and sometimes 2 kids on one scooter. Anyway, motorbikes and petrol scooters are far more practical and we should be encouraging more people out of their ugly heavy SUVs but Irish people are addicted to their cars spending 40-50 K seems to be heading toward the average, cheap credit PCP and cars are a status Symbol in Ireland, can't have a car older than the neighbour and no way they could have a motorbike in the yard, the neighbours would think they'd gone bankrupt !
Yes VRT is a big issue, so much for free trade in the EU. IBT although a very good idea adds to the cost of getting into motorcycling. Insurance for young people is a much bigger barrier. Would have been much better, as you say, to promote small motorcycles as means of transport rather than the electric scooter, what a mess! We have the Greens to blame for this. When I was young (16), motorcycling was for the young now it's all the grey haired like myself, the freedom it gave. If you ever see old films of Dublin it's full of people on small motorcycles getting around.
@@pat2bornot2b Yeah I will look up some old film of Dublin but Cars are a status symbol for Irish people now, they wouldn't dare let the neighbours see a motorcycle in the driveway for fear of being seen as poor !
Was looking to buy an Indian scout 60,ridiculous price brand new.
The Indian scout starts at Starting at £ 13,395 MSRP in the uk that's 15,992 Euro* in Ireland Starting at €17,495 difference €1.503 and I'm sure every small extra pushes the difference up more.
General trend Motorcycles is down 100% correct. Manufacturers will not make " Sensible " bikes . Too expensive . Too big . Too Heavy . Loaded with crap and usless rubbish . Slipper clutches. Ride modes. Forward radar . No use 180/ 200 hp. 6 Speed gear boxes. Suprised nobody has thought of a button that jerks you off on the move. Young people are not interested at all. Old generation like me dying off.
Your right, I'm no fan of all the extra electronics added to bikes, just more stuff to go wrong and difficult to fix. We are the last generation to really enjoy motorcycles with all the speed cameras and shit coming down the line.
@@pat2bornot2b 5 Years ago out in rural Lincolnshire Sun . afternoon on 1200vfr got caught speeding by "HELICOPTER" . Never saw or herd it. Fortunatly did not get a driving ban 55 years clean licence. Bikes were good fun but now do a bit of damage thousand pound to repair. Unfortunatly bikes are coming towards the end like us. Started 1962 200cc James Captain. Manufacturers just will not see the there folly and make repairable sensible bikes. Still marshall at Cadwell for Classic / Vintage club racing.
Cost here is a rip off, look at the new Triumph speed 400 as one example, it costs 5500 Euros on the continent and 6800 in Ireland.
The IBT adds to the hassle and cost now too.
I passed my A test in July 2024 and absolutely love biking and I regret not doing it years ago !
Insurance is also a rip off and the 50cc market has been wiped out by the sale of those horrible battery kids scooters that everyone seem to be on today, no license, no training, no insurance, riding on footpaths, kids not supposed to be on them under 16 yet I see them all the time and sometimes 2 kids on one scooter.
Anyway, motorbikes and petrol scooters are far more practical and we should be encouraging more people out of their ugly heavy SUVs but Irish people are addicted to their cars spending 40-50 K seems to be heading toward the average, cheap credit PCP and cars are a status Symbol in Ireland, can't have a car older than the neighbour and no way they could have a motorbike in the yard, the neighbours would think they'd gone bankrupt !
Yes VRT is a big issue, so much for free trade in the EU.
IBT although a very good idea adds to the cost of getting into motorcycling. Insurance for young people is a much bigger barrier.
Would have been much better, as you say, to promote small motorcycles as means of transport rather than the electric scooter, what a mess! We have the Greens to blame for this.
When I was young (16), motorcycling was for the young now it's all the grey haired like myself, the freedom it gave. If you ever see old films of Dublin it's full of people on small motorcycles getting around.
@@pat2bornot2b Yeah I will look up some old film of Dublin but Cars are a status symbol for Irish people now, they wouldn't dare let the neighbours see a motorcycle in the driveway for fear of being seen as poor !