C6 Corvette Grand Sport Review | A Hidden Gem

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  • @stevecartwright188
    @stevecartwright188 Рік тому +46

    The C6 is subtle. The C7 and C8 are gaudy. The C6 will age better than any corvette that came before or after it.

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  Рік тому +7

      Can’t say I disagree, whenever I think of Corvette, the C6 is what pops into my head. That and the price is exactly why I bought mine, the C6 will definitely be a classic!

    • @BP-fx3qc
      @BP-fx3qc 10 місяців тому +1

      It truly has

    • @gugalldiznii383
      @gugalldiznii383 4 місяці тому +2

      I've mistaken a few C8s for a McLaren lol; they don't look like 'Vettes anymore..

    • @zacharygiles2984
      @zacharygiles2984 28 днів тому +1

      @@gugalldiznii383 exactly. they're better.

  • @504S
    @504S Рік тому +16

    2013 C6 GRANDSPORT CORVETTE OWNER HERE !! LOVE THE GS !! AWESOME RIDE 🇺🇸

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  Рік тому +2

      Can’t go wrong. When I think of corvettes this is the car that comes to mind and for good reason. Thanks for watching.

  • @bobbybenn8275
    @bobbybenn8275 Рік тому +23

    Thanks for the video. At 73, I purchased an 07 c6 6.0. I wanted a vette since I was 13. This car has 73000 miles, garage kept and covered, serviced only by dealership. It's atomic orange, it came with 2 tops, new brakes, new michelin tires, a new harmonic balancer and shift cable. The paint looks showroom. Tkx again.

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  Рік тому

      Glad to hear you enjoyed. The 07 sounds incredible! Atomic orange is a beautiful color and it sounds like you got a great deal. Enjoy the car, they are an absolute blast!

    • @joejunglas441
      @joejunglas441 9 місяців тому

      Go pappy

    • @grandytchannelg6389
      @grandytchannelg6389 4 місяці тому

      Picking up my 2013 (C6) Grand Sport this Friday. Only 13k miles on it with an extended warranty. I'm excited. Finally getting one!!!!! 💯 🔥

    • @bobbybenn8275
      @bobbybenn8275 4 місяці тому

      @@grandytchannelg6389 congratulations. Hope you enjoy it to the fullest.

    • @dpbabbitt1
      @dpbabbitt1 3 місяці тому

      Nice - I'm 61 and my financial plan has me in line for my first Corvette (I'm currently leaning toward a C6 GS) for my 67th birthday.

  • @browningbelgium2326
    @browningbelgium2326 Рік тому +61

    If I were to buy a Grand Sport, it would be the 2010-13 coupe with manual transmission. The manual adapts to mods a lot better. GM made that motor to be bullet proof and many people don't know it, but the engine was hand made for the manual like they did for the ZR1. There's performance additions to the manual that they didn't add to the automatic. And, the Grand Sport has performance attributes identical to the Z06.

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  Рік тому +12

      Totally agree that manual is the way to go! Didn’t know they were hand built but that’s really quite interesting. Thanks for the insight and thanks for watching.

    • @russmt4181
      @russmt4181 Рік тому +6

      The technicians name is on a plaque near the front of the pass side cylinder head. The manual trans grandsport has a close ratio gearbox and coolers on the trans and diff. The crank is forged, the dry sump of course and a launch control. I bought mine instead of a z06 because of the head problems on the z06.

    • @davidarmitage9041
      @davidarmitage9041 Рік тому +8

      @@russmt4181 I saw a C&S UTube video where Lyle explained the story of the hand built engines for the 2010 Grand Sport. Cool story. Lyle is a cool dude too!

    • @rrf6747
      @rrf6747 Рік тому +2

      My understanding when I was looking for my vette was manual transmissions are rare and far between in the grand sports.

    • @browningbelgium2326
      @browningbelgium2326 Рік тому +3

      @@rrf6747 I'm guessing that if 7,000 were made from each year, then 1,000 each year were manual. But I'm just guessing. But I know for sure that 2013 was the least production year.

  • @lambchopLSX87
    @lambchopLSX87 Рік тому +23

    Let’s not forget that a GS with a stick has a hand built ls3 and is also dry sump. Much better then an auto car.

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  Рік тому +1

      Very good point that I completely forgot about. I fully agree the manual is the way to go. Thanks for watching

    • @toNynho88
      @toNynho88 Рік тому +2

      Why is it better? Maybe for track but what else?

    • @KidKingdomHearts
      @KidKingdomHearts Рік тому +3

      @@toNynho88 nothing much different besides that. If you don’t really care and wish to get the auto, do it. Won’t regret it I’d assume.

    • @toNynho88
      @toNynho88 Рік тому +3

      @@KidKingdomHearts yeah, i got myself a C6 GS AT in april. I do not regret it.

  • @benchen1506
    @benchen1506 Місяць тому +1

    Deciding between GS and Z06. At my age, I don't want to shift manually so much, but nice that the Z06 doesn't have fake vents.

  • @artfordlowery490
    @artfordlowery490 Рік тому +28

    I'm in the process of looking for a C6 CORVETTES GRAND SPORT

    • @benedictdonald4338
      @benedictdonald4338 Рік тому +2

      Lies.

    • @johnasbury9915
      @johnasbury9915 Рік тому

      Get one, you’ll love it. She’s a beautiful girl.

    • @pstiikkreefing8937
      @pstiikkreefing8937 Рік тому

      Just got mine in red torch. It’s a beast. Walked a amg v12 on a 50 to 160

    • @cozmicsoull
      @cozmicsoull Рік тому

      @@pstiikkreefing8937Congrats! What year, cost, and market?

    • @pstiikkreefing8937
      @pstiikkreefing8937 Рік тому +1

      @@cozmicsoull 2013 grand sport California market 36k miles 40,000 out the door

  • @z512345
    @z512345 Рік тому +15

    I love my 2011 GS!

  • @mikekramer9873
    @mikekramer9873 Рік тому +19

    I have a 2012 GS Centennial with a manual. Centennial cars came with Selective Ride as part of the package. That and replacing the run flats with Michelin Sport 4S tires creates a perfect suspension for a daily driver, always just firm enough for conditions but never uncomfortable. Rather than pulling the fuse on the variable exhaust, there’s an aftermarket remote control that lets you toggle back and forth on the fly for around $50. ‘12 and ‘13 got nicer looking seats, and two extra tweeters in the dash with the optional Bose audio system. But I can’t recommend Selective Ride enough.
    The GS is also the only wide body C6 with the removable targa roof, and the optional transparent roof panel.
    If you’re in the market for an under $40k Sport Coupe you owe it to yourself to put a C6 GS on your short list.

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  Рік тому

      Thanks for the information. The variable fuse is something I’ve seen before and definitely the best solution. Thanks for watching

    • @davidarmitage9041
      @davidarmitage9041 Рік тому

  • @gatti1969
    @gatti1969 6 місяців тому +4

    2010 C6 vette owner here! Bought the car a couple months ago and I love it. Came with a super charge and a Corsa exhaust. The car had 16547 miles when I bought it.

    • @SuperBacDoc
      @SuperBacDoc 5 місяців тому +1

      Super charged with Corsa exhaust is some awesome upgrades
      You scored!

    • @gatti1969
      @gatti1969 5 місяців тому

      Thanks, I’m new to the corvette club I’ve always been a dodge guy.

  • @andrewthomas3315
    @andrewthomas3315 Рік тому +6

    Owned one. Low end torque of the LS3 was excellent. C6 design is the best.

  • @sals559
    @sals559 9 місяців тому +7

    I love my 2011 GS and daily drive mine 365 days a year (I live in CA) I have the manual which means it come with a few extras such as a hand-built engine, dry sump oiling system and forged crank. If you plan to daily drive keep in mind how low these cars are, they will have you looking out for speed bumps and steep driveway entrances. There are some other inconveniences, you get with the manual transmission such as the dry sump oiling system. I don't mean the fact that its dry sump just that I have to change my own oil since in my area most oil change technicians give me a blank stare when I ask if they are familiar with dry sump oiling system? Speaking of changing my own oil this car take 10.5 quarts of full synthetic oil so its not an inexpensive oil change. Then again this shouldn't bother you considering your driving a high performance after all. Daily driving means you are also replacing expensive tires every 2-3 years and getting in and out the driver's seat everyday lets me know if I am putting on to much weight. Overall its a great experience and love going through the gears and hearing that LS3 scream. I highly recommend the Grandsport if you are considering a Corvette and especially if you plan to daily drive it.

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  9 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the insight, it sounds like you’ve really enjoyed yours!

    • @fahadalthubyani3162
      @fahadalthubyani3162 5 місяців тому

      Hi there,
      I am into buying a 2011 GS
      Planning for this car to be a weekend car , just wondering since you are using it on daily
      Is it that bad on maintenance?

  • @metaljew4456
    @metaljew4456 Рік тому +6

    IMO you have to get a C6 GS with the manual transmission. The clutch is light not heavy and the throws are decent. The ride is relatively soft and it’s a comfortable car. Just be careful because she is very low to the ground!

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  Рік тому +1

      Completely agree manual is for sure better. I owned a 2004 Z06 manual and corvette does well with it. Loved the tall gearing and how well built it feels. Thanks for watching!

  • @ChrisBred4s
    @ChrisBred4s Рік тому +4

    I love my 2012 GS! 🫶🏻

  • @rogue000six
    @rogue000six Рік тому +3

    Great review! Looking forward to your channel growing as you put out more high quality and easy to watch content.

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  Рік тому

      Thanks I really appreciate that. I plan on staying consistent for the long run!

  • @luvregs
    @luvregs 9 місяців тому +1

    I bought my 2012 GS Coupe w/ manual in July 2021. I was planning on buying a C6 Z06, but then I learned of the class action/valve drop issue. Then I discovered the many favorable aspects of the LS3, so I pulled the trigger...

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  9 місяців тому +1

      Can’t go wrong with that, many say the LS3 is GMs greatest and I’d have agree that it’s up there, hope you’re enjoying the car!

  • @Jkylex
    @Jkylex Рік тому +9

    It’s funny before Covid these were under 25k for a low mile manual lol

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  Рік тому +1

      Truly insane. That would be the ultimate deal. Thanks for watching

    • @Inverter5253
      @Inverter5253 Рік тому +1

      Try finding one now lol. They’re normally around the same range as a c6 z06.

    • @davidarmitage9041
      @davidarmitage9041 Рік тому +1

      I can’t image them being sold under $25,000. I paid 24,000 for my 3LT 2006 convertible. Now I’ll settle for $35,000 for a nice GS. I’m not having any luck yet.

    • @paulmoss7940
      @paulmoss7940 Рік тому +1

      @@davidarmitage9041 I just bought one 13 60th Anniv. car 4LT loaded ,select ride, I needed an auto (knee) 40k

    • @davidarmitage9041
      @davidarmitage9041 Рік тому

      @@paulmoss7940 Good deal Paul. I just download a search for the entire country for 3LT Grand Sports with a convertible top. Just began getting some possible suggestions real fast. A few were as low as 24,000 miles. Congratulations on your new baby! Until I find my new car I still have my 3LT C6. By the way. Did you ever think of getting a C7 with low miles for $40,000 to $44,000? I’m finding 3LT’s in that price range. Have a good evening.

  • @jeffreyfisher6723
    @jeffreyfisher6723 Рік тому +3

    I have owned two and the Automatic are 436 HP ,but the 6 speed is a Dry sump engine and better than the Automatic. The 6 speed C6 Corvette is 450 Hp because of the engine being a dry sump oil system.

    • @metaljew4456
      @metaljew4456 6 місяців тому

      No, it’s not the car is not 450 hp. It’s 436 hp with the dual mode exhaust.

    • @jeffreyfisher6723
      @jeffreyfisher6723 6 місяців тому

      @@metaljew4456 the Automatic and 6 speed, both have dual exhaust.

    • @jeffreyfisher6723
      @jeffreyfisher6723 6 місяців тому

      I am a degree In aircraft and race in Pro Class NHRA.

  • @rellmonger7935
    @rellmonger7935 Рік тому +2

    I want this now, not just a base model

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  Рік тому +2

      Be careful not to stumble across my ZR1 video then, you’ll be hooked lol. In seriousness the grand sport is totally a step up from the base in many ways!

  • @mhicks5008
    @mhicks5008 Місяць тому

    "Corvette rims have never been their strongpoint"?? The sawblades on my 1996 are straight fire man!

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  Місяць тому

      I do love the design of the C4, thats just my opinion on rims though. The C7 rims were the first I liked from factory. Thanks for watching and enjoy the car!

  • @carbo2950
    @carbo2950 Рік тому

    08 z51 droptop all the boxes checked. Over 100k well maintain mi. The real deal and fun to drive.

  • @brianstarnes6637
    @brianstarnes6637 Місяць тому

    I have a 2013 C6 GS convertible with the LS3 I enjoy the car.

  • @avaliacarros7739
    @avaliacarros7739 5 місяців тому

    June 30th - Corvette Anniversary
    It seems unbelievable, but Corvette has reached 71 years of history. Let's celebrate!

  • @ajra6805
    @ajra6805 Рік тому +2

    The exhaust is an option ,it did not come with a grand sport.. It added 5 hp. 435 HP verses 430.. most dynoed actually put out 450 hp. Also. when you ordered a manual transmission. you got a had built engine. verses one assembled in Mexico as with the automatics. I actually met my engine builder at the corvette museum, had him sign one of my engine covers . There's a name plate on the engine

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  Рік тому +1

      I’ve heard that about the hand built engine. That’s super neat that you met yours! Thanks for watching.

  • @mcm95403
    @mcm95403 Рік тому +8

    The center console is the perfect size for my .45.

    • @mikeflores2000
      @mikeflores2000 Рік тому

      Colt 45 can of beer in cupholder? Joke right?

    • @paulmoss7940
      @paulmoss7940 Рік тому +4

      @@mikeflores2000 uh , no. Carjacker surprise.

  • @speedfiend925
    @speedfiend925 2 місяці тому

    The car you test drove has F55 suspension so depending on which setting you had it set on I imagine it could feel rather floaty. Z51 was the best option for a tighter ride and handling. 😁

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  2 місяці тому

      Thank you for the distinction, I missed that!

  • @Roushcharged427R
    @Roushcharged427R Рік тому

    Great review!

  • @ft7039
    @ft7039 Рік тому

    ggreat review and editing!!

  • @rrf6747
    @rrf6747 Рік тому +3

    I have a 2012 Corvette base i like the smaller car myself.

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  Рік тому

      That’s a great car! I own a 2005 base, so no LS3 but I love it, I can imagine the 2012 is much better. Thanks for watching.

  • @stephenmercure1750
    @stephenmercure1750 2 місяці тому

    438 bald eagles under that hood baby whoo 🤘🏽🤘🏽

  • @richardmorris6365
    @richardmorris6365 Рік тому

    They're my favorite, had a C5,loved it but not as much as C6 widebody. More sleek looking.C7 were a bit edgy to me I prefer this.Interiors are cheap & functional don't take em apart & be carefully on bad roads & it'll stay together & not rattle..

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  Рік тому

      Completely agree. I think the C6 is best value corvette available right now. I actually just bought one and very happy with it. Thanks for watching!

  • @victorjohnson2093
    @victorjohnson2093 Рік тому

    Great Video Thanks 😊

  • @whodoesnt3745
    @whodoesnt3745 7 місяців тому

    im buying one next year if everything works out

  • @V8dadmartin
    @V8dadmartin Рік тому +2

    The c6 gs and Z06 cost more or less the same. It’s really between a solid LS3 or rolling the dice with an LS7

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  Рік тому +2

      Agreed. The LS7 is more fun but you gotta hope the valves stay in their place. Thanks for watchibg

    • @lambchopLSX87
      @lambchopLSX87 Рік тому

      No comparison in power the ls7 is on a different level. Plus the Z is much lighter. That said both wonderful cars, however if getting a GS the stick cars have hand built engines and dry sump so overall a better car just in that respect.

    • @lambchopLSX87
      @lambchopLSX87 Рік тому

      Also fixing the valves isn’t really a big deal and can be done in your driveway on a Saturday

    • @Inverter5253
      @Inverter5253 Рік тому

      @@lambchopLSX87 the valve is not only the issue. While i agree the ls7 is more raw/fun the ls3 6.2L is simply better suited for boost.

    • @joem1382
      @joem1382 Рік тому

      As a Z06 owner. I bought mine with factory engine and had not been touched. I beat on it for about 14K miles. Not a single engine issue. Then got upgraded heads and a bigger camshaft, and went right back to beating on it. I love it!!

  • @jeffreyfisher6723
    @jeffreyfisher6723 Рік тому

    2011 and then 2013 60th anniversary Corvette.
    I Dyno the car's.

  • @bobwesterman4556
    @bobwesterman4556 Рік тому

    I have a 2005 Z51 up graded exaust,high performance computers and same on trans not a scratch on it outside or inside with7000 and 8 origanal miles and much more.Black(wet look) it is a 190 mile per hr carvette.

    • @bobwesterman4556
      @bobwesterman4556 Рік тому

      C 6

    • @bobwesterman4556
      @bobwesterman4556 Рік тому

      It is a beauty

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  Рік тому

      That’s funny you say that, I own a near identical one, 2005 Z51 3lt. Mine is red, but they are awesome cars and I’m glad to hear you enjoy yours as much as I do!

  • @Shadow0fd3ath24
    @Shadow0fd3ath24 10 місяців тому

    Throw a cam in and it beats a Zo6 in power and 0-60 and has all the other good stuff pretty much including a handbuilt LS with dry sump, wider fenders, better springs/shocks, magnaride on some of them if special ordered, launch control, brakes etc....and the autos in these with a small trans tune/stall and the paddles are much faster and AMAZING tbh, id rather it than a manual

    • @jacksonshore5677
      @jacksonshore5677 9 місяців тому

      you just havent been in a car w someone thats knows how to shift then

  • @ReaperComms
    @ReaperComms 8 місяців тому

    Is that a hardtop convertible? I’m looking for a 2010-2013 GS, but do they have hardtop convertible options?

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  8 місяців тому

      They’re actually all targa tops, so you can remove the roof and place it in the trunk.

    • @ReaperComms
      @ReaperComms 8 місяців тому

      @@running2redline oh like every grand sport C6 is a targa top? Like every single one?

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  8 місяців тому

      @@ReaperComms Either targa or soft top convertible yes, the Z06 is fixed hard roof only

  • @B_WithThe_C
    @B_WithThe_C Рік тому

    I love my 2012 GS

  • @SuperSnakePlissken
    @SuperSnakePlissken Рік тому +3

    The last great Corvette.

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  Рік тому +2

      I have a bit of a C6 obsession right now, I completely agree!

    • @SuperSnakePlissken
      @SuperSnakePlissken Рік тому

      @@running2redline What makes the C6 such a great car, is it is the last Corvette that looks like every Corvette going back to the 1960s. You can see that DNA throughout the car.
      Also, the LS2 6.2L V8 is the best Corvette motor ever made. The reliability on it is incredible and the base power of 436 Hp and 428 torque is just incredible.
      A lot of the interior quality issues are better in the C6 especially compared to the C5.
      Bottom line it is just a beauty.

  • @tomjowers9119
    @tomjowers9119 Рік тому +2

    I have a pristine 2011 rag top with 9100 miles . In my opinion even nicer looking then the hardtop and definitely than the C8!

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  Рік тому

      Sounds like a great car. I will say looks aside if you get the chance to drive a C8 definitely take it. That car is on a new level and the evolution is pretty amazing. I agree with looks though as whenever I think of a corvette the C6 is what comes to mind. Thanks for watching.

    • @tomjowers9119
      @tomjowers9119 Рік тому +1

      @@running2redline Yes, I think it is an amazing car and definitely would buy the electric awd once it has all the bugs out. I live in a retirement community and it is hilarious watching my seniors driving 25 mph through the hood in their C8’s!!

    • @failingup4907
      @failingup4907 Рік тому

      ​@Running2Redline I have a Yellow C7 with a 7 spd manual, better looking than that?

  • @hbgriss
    @hbgriss 5 місяців тому

    Just bought a 2010 with 34k on the odometer 👍🏻💪🏼🤘🏼💯

  • @trailerparkcryptoking5213
    @trailerparkcryptoking5213 2 місяці тому

    What color is that?

  • @Yellow_Car_Bad
    @Yellow_Car_Bad Рік тому +1

    Front air dam is functional

  • @guy990
    @guy990 11 місяців тому +1

    Prices are shooting up kicking myself I didn't grab one in mid 2020 when enthusiast cars were in a low point and 2010-2013 C6 GSs were 30-40k now none of them are touching below 50k

    • @JohnPenfold-s4p
      @JohnPenfold-s4p 6 місяців тому +1

      Actually, I know someone with a 2012, dark Gray metallic paint.
      And powder coated wheels, the same color beautiful car for $37000 In pensacola florida

  • @StalloneSRB
    @StalloneSRB Рік тому

    I wish to find one in USA and import it here to Switzerland..

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  Рік тому

      I’m sure there it would be a super rare and interesting sight for most. Definitely do it if you get the chance and thanks for watching!

    • @StalloneSRB
      @StalloneSRB Рік тому

      @@running2redline To be honest, there are much of them here... 😄 But they are like over 50.000$ here. Super expensive. You are welcome 😊

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  Рік тому +1

      That’s pretty interesting, hopefully you can manage to snag one

    • @StalloneSRB
      @StalloneSRB Рік тому

      @@running2redline Thanks man, hoping that time will come soon.. 💪

  • @wyattllc
    @wyattllc Рік тому

    the issue with the grand sport is that it competes in price range with the ss 1le

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  Рік тому

      That’s a fair point and to be honest I’d go for the 1LE as well. Modern interior and a track weapon. Thanks for watching!

    • @pauljr.harrington1905
      @pauljr.harrington1905 Рік тому +1

      I'm pretty sure the Corvette and Camaro target different audiences

    • @wyattllc
      @wyattllc Рік тому

      @@pauljr.harrington1905 maybe to a certain extent, but speaking from experience, im currently in the market for another sports car (34 yrs old, current car is a c5 corvette) im looking for the best performance for the money with something i can daily drive and take on road trips. I started with the gs but after seeing the interior and track times of a 2ss 1le, im sold. This is coming from someone who hated the look of the 5th gen camaro

  • @erskinerogers5915
    @erskinerogers5915 Рік тому

    there is nothing like merging in light traffic on a freeway in a C6

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  Рік тому

      Make full use of the acceleration ramp every time!

  • @cbttrainee5961
    @cbttrainee5961 4 місяці тому

    😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

  • @terryspray2319
    @terryspray2319 11 місяців тому

    The gs and z06 are completely different cars

  • @albertoherrera2410
    @albertoherrera2410 6 місяців тому

    Es el rayo McQueen

  • @datruth9872
    @datruth9872 Рік тому

    S

  • @zalllon
    @zalllon 2 місяці тому

    Automatic 🙄

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  2 місяці тому

      The manual is certainly the way to go. The automatic really dilutes the experience

  • @chrish5503
    @chrish5503 Рік тому +1

    Very well done, thank you.

  • @gnfnroses5470
    @gnfnroses5470 Рік тому

    Here is the thing ill take 2005 E55 AMG and leave this corvette in dust

    • @running2redline
      @running2redline  Рік тому

      Also a great choice. That M113 engine is bulletproof too!

    • @gnfnroses5470
      @gnfnroses5470 Рік тому +1

      @@running2redline im in market for Corvette GS or Mustang GT performance package premium . But E55 AMG is other car that i love but you have to be careful when buying it otherwise you'll buy Someones junk

    • @JungSooLeee
      @JungSooLeee Рік тому +1

      ​​@@gnfnroses5470Buddy, I had a 2007 E55 AMG back in 2008. You'd have to be a hoof mouthed tard to buy that instead of a Grand Sport. The Stang is just garbage unless you boost it to the moon. Even then, it isn't as stout as the LS3. SBE LS3s are unmatched in reliability. It's actually ranked as the most reliable V8 engine of all time across all brands. Pal.