Zebs cameo at the beginning of the episode gave me a nod, he's was a really fun character in Rebels. For his first time in live action, he honestly looks way better than the Grand Inquisitor from the Obi-Wan Kenobi show.
Grand Inquisitor? You mean Quan Chi from the Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-Zero live-action cutscenes? I get them confused because the makeup was so cheap.
You know, it’s kind of funny seeing people complain about the callbacks to previous media. I never watched Rebels (saw the Ahsoka-Vader and Maul-Obiwan duels on UA-cam). I didn’t recognize that character, and it was fine, it was an alien pilot loyal to the new republic. I feel like most of the cameos are like that. You don’t need to have watched the Clone Wars or Rebels to know what’s actually going on in the show.
The New Republic Rangers should’ve fought in this latest Skirmish of Nevarro, regardless of orders. Watching Zeb fight pirates on the battlefield would’ve been cool
To think that Luke, Han and Leia and the whole Rebellion fought so hard against the Empire to restore peace in the galaxy, only for The New Republic to act like a bunch of A**holes and refuse to help those who are in need is just frustrating.
@@dereklopez9060 To be fair, the New Republic have a lot in their plate or its giving that impression so there is no peace. It cannot be anywhere so it have to pick and chose the battles. I am going to be fair and assume you dont know the old EU were the New Republic had to fight the Imperial Remnant that was hold back by bickering Warlords since the whole "The Emperor dies and the Empire just rolls over" is naive, the New Republic had a lot of close calls when someone competent managed to show up (Palpatine Clone and of course Thrawn) so what happened in the episode doesnt really surprise me, not because "the New Republic is evil" but rather they had a lot to do and they arent the Empire that was build upon the Republic.
One thing to keep in mind is that the Rangers are likely operating with very limited resources and likely not a lot of bureaucratic support. Particularly with being a remote outpost, small and "unimportant" while the New Republic government tries to figure itself out and the partisan factions maneuver for power and control. Making an independent move with government resources against "insignificant" pirates to protect a non-member system would be career suicide at minimum, and potentially even considered treasonous. So with knowing that there was some other growing threat out there from the Imperial Remnant, this was not the time to be defiant. He had to make a hard choice between the problem right in front of him and the larger problem he had yet to prove existed but believed was coming. Going to the Mandalorians was the middle ground, getting aid to Navarro while retaining his ability to keep investigating the looming Imperial threat.
@@shugaroony For sure... I just though fight scenes in other hokey versions were better edited etc... But yeah wasn't horrible. Just expected better quality and care.
Maybe just me. But this was episode 5 of an 8 episode season. With a re-write all of this could have easily been done for an Episode 3. IE Episode 1 is Mando and Bo Katan going to Mandalore and joining the group. Bo Katan sees the Mythosaur Episode 2 is them getting accepted by the group/The New Republic side with what's going on with Moff Gideon Episode 3 is them fighting the Pirates and making the decision to go back to Mandalore and find all the other Mandalorians/New Republic realizes Moff Gideon has escaped.
They had to make relatively quick (in production terms) revisions to cover for the changes since the end of Season 2: - Losing Cara Dune and the Rangers show. - Attempting to redeem something out of BOBF - Setting up Ahsoka's series They have to patch in the necessary pieces to support the larger meta-story that Favreau and Filoni are telling. That's had an impact on the quality of this season, and the production decisions made.
Same. I'm thinking this series is due for a Patterson cut. (Heck, carve out those two Mando episodes in BoBoba and stitch them to the beginning of this season.)
I disagree. Even if some people didn't like the Dr. Pershing episode, it lay the grounds for the Gideon storyline which is now unfolding, and for his woman to be with that colonel in this one. Thor didn't go into the detail, but she heavily influenced the colonel against helping Navarro, by pointing out they weren't a member of the NR and NR had to be careful how to spend their resources.
@@JoRoq1 What quick changes ? Between season 2 and season 3 more than two years have passed !!! They had MORE than enough time to make a decent season with each episode of a decent lenght instead of a merely 30 minutes ! I don't agree at all with the comment of the narrator of this video !
Gorian looks to be almost completely practical effects which is really cool. It could have been done a little better but it captures the feeling of the OT.
This episode was super bittersweet. The first 30 minutes were so awesome to watch everything come together and fit into place despite every episode feeling like it went in different directions. At the same time, I have one major gripe. It's almost certain now that this show is no longer about the Mandalorian, about Din Djarin. There was an entire scene that (in my opinion) should have gone to Din that was instead Bo-Katan's to step into. I'm holding out hope that there will be some big moment where somehow the title of Mandalore shifts from Bo-Katan to Din, but it seems that so much more work is now being put into readying Bo-Katan for that role.
I personally see them setting up some sort of dual leadership between Bo and Din, they have had alot of shots together, and each episode they seem to get closer in those shots. Idk if its going to be a romantic thing necessarily, but a partnership at least IMO
@Nathan That's true, but regardless of Din's fate, the payoffs should be his. We should be excited for his story, he's the character we're meant to be inhabiting. Whatever his story is, we've not experienced much if any of it, because every special character moment has been given to another character this season
To all the people who complained about fans calling Disney out on bad design on characters like the Grand Inquisitor, I point to our new live action Zeb. This of what Disney is capable of when they actually care to put forward some effort. On the whole I’ve really liked the make up and prosthetics in this season.
@@bowenhorne0616 OMG yes, dude. the mouth movement was so clunky and lip-sync was so bad it looked like it was dubbed over from another language. The only issue I had with Zeb is his CGI really sticks out from the background. Completely accurate to Rebels though.
We finally have a plot this season! It took way too long to get to the plot. This episode was great. Loved seeing the Mandalorians vs. the pirates on Nevarro. The Armorer always has great action scenes. I loved seeing Zeb in live action, and I hope this means he'll be in more episodes of this season and in Ahsoka. I'm hoping Moff Gideon shows up in the next episode since the ending was all about him. Can't wait to see the final 3 episodes. I know the next one is directed by Bryce Dallas Howard, and I've enjoyed every episode she's directed so far.
I feel the fact we had three Mando episodes in BoBF made the pacing of this season seem weird. So it made it feel weirdly long. I didn't find the plot taking to long, it just took some detours to tell us where it wanted to end up lol 😅
I'm pretty sure executive meddling has been degrading this show. They realized BoBF was a real stinker so inserted Mando S2.5 in the middle of it. Brought Grogu back to sell merchandise. Shoehorning in Rangers of the New Republic story threads into Mando S3 after cancelling that show.
My favorite moments this season seem to be storylines taken from Rangers of the New Republic. Would’ve loved to see what that show had to offer. Especially if Zeb was a main character!
Great recap, Thor. I definitely liked this episode more than last week’s. That being said, my biggest issue with this season is how the episodes are put together/edited. The end scenes with Capt Teva should have been shown at the end of episode one. The Dr Pershing stuff could very easily been split up over a couple of episodes. I’m not exactly sure how much time has passed between the end of last season and this episode, but it seems like it’s been entirely too long to just now have found the wrecked shuttle that was carrying Moff Gideon. And for as big of a catch as he was, the New Republic don’t seem overly concerned with retrieving him. Once the season is over with, I’d kinda like to see a fan edit of the season. Just my 2¢
As a complete "Rebel's Head", this episode had me fist pumping at a couple points...and I've been on the "tfw?" train up until now. If this were a pure storytelling issue this series would have been finished in season one. THIS (1st 1/2 of the season) was pure studio shenanigans jerking Grogu back prematurely. It is excruciatingly clear that things (mando 2.5) were meddled with, and the rumors of Favreau threatening to quit make complete sense.
I’m glad we ended the episode with Bo being set up as the leader. That feels like a natural place for her story that we’ve been following all these years, to go. It feels right. I also don’t want Din Djarin tied down in one place and I want him to be free to go explore different places. Although this sets up a conflict between the two of them which I look forward to. As for Gideon, maybe I’m being too clever but I wonder if he was saved by imperials he worked with on Mandalore and maybe these imperials have beaker armor from their time occupying the planet.
Live comments: - Shard's mouth movements - YES! It was like a damn muppet. - ZEB! Was that really live action? I thought he was CGI. - Capt. Teeva says he has a mole, says exactly who that mole is, and the Mandalorians... keep the mole in their midsts. - The cowardly pilot better retreat to Hondo. Of Zeb runs into Hondo. I don't care, just give us Hondo. - Pedro may be about to actually have to work for his Mando paycheck. - Prediction: Bo-Katan will get word of Gideon being taken by Mandalorians. She will then hunt them down to find Fenn Rau. As I recall, he was once on the payroll of the Empire. Thoughts on the episode: best one of the season, but still just meh. Thoughts on the season: I'm sad that Bad Batch is over.
That Nevarro sequences were way too cheap. A town with 25 inhabitants. (The cheering of victory in the end were laughable in my headphones with so few voices) Extras on the attack wide shots behaving like there is no danger. Pirates in town acting overly caricatural with just a basic drunk mayhem. Disney just put more money in Mando the good moments are too often overshadowed by the cheapness. Funnily Andor never looked cheap.
Yeah spot on. The action sequences looked cheap and in some cases just needed to be shot again. It was seemed cheap and lazy. Townspeople falling this way and that before the explosions hit. Pirates looking like idiots not menacing at all. So few townspeople. I mean I am ok if there isn't that many that confront the pirates outside of town with Karga. because not like EVERYONE evacuates successfully after such a sudden attack and take over of the town. But the fact that more weren't there to cheer on/thank the Mandalorians was kind of dumb. I mean couldn't they just get 50-60 more extras to throw on a cheap outfit and buy them lunch to cheer for the mandos for 30 minutes? I guess Disney pitching pennies. IDK...
My one problem is the fact that bo-katan took off her helmet. I understand it's most likely a political decision to make other clans more comfortable, but I feel it could have been better explained.
@@JoRoq1 I think the helmet rule is a penance being paid for not following the ways of the Mandalore. Once Mandalore is retaken, I think the rule will be relaxed if not lifted entirely.
@@delmarwilkey3176 I agree that the strict dogmatic adherence is likely a reaction to the events from the Clone Wars and the Purge. But that’s not the kind of policy that suddenly gets relaxed. The Armorer was making an explicit point, as the keeper of the Creed and essentially the High Priestess, granting a dispensation to Bo and only to Bo for a specific purpose. But the larger point is that we don’t yet have a ready understanding of the helmet rules. It’s a crude question, but can spouses remove their helmets when they are intimate? We know they can’t at a public dinner table, but within just a blood family or ward/foundling set? We’re getting pieces here and there, and the missing parts just make it more confusing.
Pleasantly surprised by Zeb, I was really scared to see what he’d look like in live action but he honestly looks great! This just makes me more sad that the inquisitors turned out the way they did lol
I really enjoyed this episode. I just wish it was the episode 3, and we had 5 episodes to come. I feel like we lost some precious time until now. But if the show continue to build into a huge finally, it’ll be probably worth the wait, like the last season.
It’s ironic how most fans were fearing Zebs transition looking at his animated counterpart, but he looks the best out of all of them, along with Ahsoka
9.5/10 episode. Fun action sequences, important plot points, a decent runtime, and a perfect cameo. All-around ton of fun! If the last 3 episodes are this good, the season is officially salvaged in my book.
@@andyb1653 To me it barely makes 8.5 and 1 whole piont is given for Zeb and because he looked so great. The graphics while stellar in some parts were lazy in others. Some of the fight scene was quite jarring. The explosions were not believable and much of the combat cartoonish. The acting of the new republic officers was somewhat wooden and not very good. The Mandalorian speeches were great and seeing them take back Navarro was cool. The intrigue of escaped Moff Gideon was interesting. Anyway. It's a matter of opinion. I thought this episode suffered from being rushed and too cartoonish. Not horrible but 7 or 7.5 with a slight booost or Zeb appearance being so cool. Not nearly 9.5 or 10 material.
@@andyb1653 The Zeb cameo was great but I feel like the recent episodes have been too mixed a bag to really salvage anything. There's just too much wasted time and not enough of the stuff I came to see. Sure, there's still the rest of this season but even if the next few episodes are all bangers, this season as a whole will still be pretty lackluster compared to the first two.
Anyone else feel robbed when the concept art rolls at the end? The quality of it is SO much better than what the show adapts of it; almost like their budget couldn't translate it? I don't know, I just feel like I'm watching a different show than seasons 1 and 2 of The Mandalorian with The Book of Boba Fett's budget and directing. The vibes are off and everything feels.. cheap?
Yeah. I'm not an expert but it seems like the Mandalorian visual effects team has actually struggled through all three seasons with 'Intermediate' scenes. What I mean are scenes that are not a huge overiew or a close up tend to be lazy and not as well produced.
I hope this Zeb cameo is essentially a test for how fans would react to his design so they can have him in Ahsoka. Maybe if he looked bad and people didn’t like him, they’d fix him up a bit before it comes out I’d say my biggest problem with the episode was the pirate guy’s mouth. It looked like he was just making popping sounds, and I at least couldn’t tell in any scene except his hologram convo with Greef Karga. Other than that I kinda wish the pirates the armorer fought wore armor so we could see it shattering again, but that’s totally alright and neither of these things make me like the episode less
Perhaps we need to consider what proportion of the budget for this episode that little Zeb bit took up. For that reason alone, I doubt very much we'll be seeing a lot more of him.
@@Raygo. I feel like that’s not really the case, I mean, look at the company running the show, I’m sure they’re fine. And if the Ahsoka show is as much as a Rebels “sequel” as it seems to be, they need Zeb
The idea the Mandalorians are open to moving back to Nevarro only proves the point how stupid it was these Mandalorians purposefully settled on a planet iwth so many dangerous creatures... it was not for 'practice' to test their skills... they are always outpowered and outwitted and caught by surprise
Was it really necessary to bring Grogu with him on the fighter during the battle? Since we don't see the other foundlings on the front lines I assume they had someone watching over them while most of the tribe went and fought. Usually Mando and Grogu are on solo adventures so it makes sense there's nowhere to leave the child during the action but in this case it just seems reckless.
They needed his mandatory screen time for the short attention span casual viewers. But you’re right, it’s plain dumb to bring grogu, especially when din has the most dangerous role of the entire attack
Aside from Jon seemingly unable to write a scene with overnight action, I'm looking forward to Bo-Katan calling in the other Mandolorian clans. Bet the first person she contacts is Sabine, who will travel to Navarro and train Din to use the Dark Saber. What bothered me about the episode is TIME. After the pirates land on Navarro. Griff sends out the message to Teva, who receives it the same day, flies to Courasant the same day, is rebuffed by the New Republic, flies back to the Rim and finds Din, still the same say. Din the persuades the Covert to help Navarro, they fly off on still on that same day? ( the Covert has NO SHIPS? How did they reach the planet?) Meanwhile Navarro has been taking fire from the pirates, the citizens hide in the mines in the salt flats and behold Din & Bo-Katan appear. All on the same day? We didn't see the citizens huddled together under a night sky, burning fires to keep warm. And probably before dinner as it has been bright daylight in every scene. Jon obviously doesn't believe in lapsed time or time zones. Yet last week, to rescue Ragnar, the Mandolorians spent the night by the Dragon-raptor's nest. They rescued the boy the next morning, and they were on the same planet, a few hours away from their caves.
@DS9TREK did you see any hint there was an overnight? In the previous episode, when rescuing Ragnar, the group settled in for the night, deciding to climb to the nest early the next morning. Then where was the night scene with the refugees in the caves? Huddling around fires for warmth?
It took 5 episodes to find out Moff Gideon has escaped after the season 2 climax. It took -2 episodes to find out Grogu went back to Din after the season 2 climax. Something is very off.
Although this was an improvement, I still feel like this show should be better. The writing feels hollow or empty? When I compare it to The Bad Batch, I feel more invested in clone force 99 than the Mandalorians. The Mandalorians are supposed to be the best warriors in the galaxy and they are written to be average fighters. There is some great things like Zeb, but not what I would expect from thier flagship show. Bad Batch is a better written show in my opinion.
This was a great episode. The way that the Mandalorians worked as a sort of special ops force in combat was epic. Zeb’s cameo was definitely a hint towards things to come and the end was fantastic. Overall the best installment so far this season.
@@MafistoOU812lol what? They were perfectly competent until they got ambushed. Plus plenty of real-life spec-ops missions go wrong due to ambushes and other unforseen circumstances.
@@lordoftime1586 you nailed it, they were perfectly competent... until they started taking fire. Then they got stupid. Some took cover to return fire, while others just stood out in the open presenting themselves as targets. And then when they started taking fire from another direction, they all moved out into the open to expose themselves to fire from both sides. Unless you have magical Disney plot armor, that's about the worst thing they could have done. And they've got JET PACKS. Why didn't they have someone up on a roof providing overwatch? And as soon as they got "pinned down" why didn't they use the jet packs to move to better cover? Either to the roofs, or just away from any line of fire. No, they just stood there and took fire like idiots until they could be rescued. This is what "spec-ops" looks like to people who grew up playing Halo & CoD without any idea of real world tactics.
I was sceptical at first. But this episode pleasantly suprised me. It started with the xwing pilot and I was like.. oh are we going to follow him all episodr now? Like the proffessor episode. Not bad but I wanted story progress. And they did deliver. It had story, action and mystery. The scene with the imperial shuttle was really cool. So eary and from the first moment knew it was Gideons.. and indeed it was confirmed. Another thing I liked: the episode actually showed the Mandalorians as a capale fighting force not to be messed with. And one last thing I love the sets and costunes this season. It just feels more real then s1 and s2. Feels more practical for some reason. Looking forward to the next episode
Best episode of the season so far and hopefully a good sign for the rest of the season. Zeb really looked good in live action but I didn't realize it was supposed to be him at first. Hopefully, he will get more than a cameo. Speaking of cameos, Grogu made his mandatory cameos because toys must be sold! There's been no point to his presence in the season thus far although I really did like the flashback from episode 4. As far as the New Republic goes, I think it is important to remember this is still only a few years after the Battle of Endor. Overthrowing a government is one things but setting up a well-functioning government is far more difficult. That the New Republic is struggling with resources shortages and having to use a lot of leftover bureaucracy from the Empire (and maybe even the original Republic) is understandable. So is the idea that imperial remnants might still be concealed within the government and using it for their own ends. That being said, if they end up making the New Republic into the Empire lite then I will take issue with that. I greatly enjoyed the fight over Nevarro although a town that size should have had thousands of refugees trying to get out, not a couple of dozen. Planets are also big; how can taking over one town amount to conquering the planet? How did the Mandalorians get a ship to go to Nevarro when shortly beforehand Din specifically said they had no ships? This is a problem that goes well beyond this show but why in Disney Star Wars does it seem like every place anyone wants to go to is always a hop, skip, and a jump from wherever they actually are? A galaxy is a big place. Despite the flaws, I still found this a good and entertaining episode but there's a part of me that keeps thinking how great this could be with Andor caliber writing.
Now this is the Way! It's my birthday and I get - IMO - a legitimately good episode of Mando. When it started, I was mildly concerned it was going to be a repeat of the Coruscant ep where the titular character was hardly in it, but no, this is how that ep should have been structured, with a few scenes not centered around him (or is it THEM now?), then back to him. Also, once again, Grogu really serves no purpose in this ep, which continues to make me think that he was not supposed to be in this season at all. And I couldn't have been the only one halfway expecting the Armourer to take off her helmet as well in that scene with Bo, right? Two final thoughts: I note that Bo and Din were sitting awfully close together in the Covert and I was actually slightly disappointed that he didn't immediately volunteer to accompany her in the gathering of the clans, not necessarily in a romantic or shippy way but simply because she's his friend.
I actually like the direction they are taking the New Republic in. While the fanbase has long had a rather romantic concept of what the New Republic would be like, with Mon Mothma and Leia as the larger-than-life driving personalities, this feels more accurate. Recall, they would have just come out of a full generation of Imperial oppression and the corruption of the Old Republic before that. The various factions forming the new government would be heavily partisan, with goals ranging from "fair and peaceful" to "our turn now". Particularly within the factions from the heavily oppressed worlds and those who actually fought in the Rebellion there would be high resentment towards Imperials/Sympathizers on one hand and towards the "neutral" systems that contributed nothing to the war effort on the other. And we are getting all this even without having Bothan Senator Fey'lya (from the original Thrawn trilogy) officially brought into the new continuity.
I love the ideas they are presenting as we know The New Republic ultimately fails. Just feel like the execution comes off too comical sometimes. The idea of Imperials hiding in the ranks of The New Republic is genius. A lot like WWII getting scientists from the Axis side.
I still think its out of character dumb that they made Mon Mothma the one that demilitarized the New Republic while Leia let it happened. That was so dumb and was as much as a character assassination of Luke.
@@vashythewabbit8288 There’s actually a sense to it. The Imperial military was the symbol of the Empire’s domination. The private security corporations were subservient to the military, and any local security was required to completely capitulate. By scrapping the war fleets, they achieved three things: 1. Symbolically demonstrated that the New Republic was not going to dominate like the Empire did. 2. Return the responsibility for security to the local systems and sectors, with a minimal Republic presence (in the form of the Rangers) to handle inter-sector and Republic-specific issues. 3. Remove dangerous ships and technology (both the cobbled scrap ships the Rebellion used and the highly advanced Imperial designs) from the board.
I must admit the whole scene were Teeva just happens to find the Mandalorian's hideout planet because of R5 made me roll my eyes. Too convenient. I think the more I know and learn about the current Mandalorians the less and less I like them as characters. They feel more like mindless drones rather than incredible warriors. I think the traces of Beskar found on the ship is a plant by the Imps to make the New Republic turn against the Mandalorians. They do have plenty of Beskar because they paid Din with some for "turning in" Grogu.
You know. I forgot that bit. Din was paid by a boatload of Beskar to retrieve Grogu. Mof Gideon was behind the hiring. So he has access to a terrific amount of beskar hidden somewhere. Could he have had beskar armor forged for some of his soldiers?
I hear you man, I see all the positive comments and Thor all enthusiastic, but to be honest this episode to me was really bad. I want to enjoy the show, but each week I discover I care a little less... I guess that's what happens when your live action TV show is more cartoonish and stupid than the literal cartoon show... honestly the bad batch was so much better than Mando all these 5 weeks. I will finish the season just to see where it ends, but not sure if I will return for season 4
The biggest problem that I have so far is that we are over halfway through the season, and we are just now getting a sense of where the story is going. I don't mind a slower paced show that takes its time to set up the plot and/or characters. But it needs either a) more episodes per season or b) longer episodes. Or both. That said, I have still enjoyed a lot of this season, and this particular episode really hit the mark. Hopefully, they continue to build on the momentum.
as I've previously commented (I told you so) - everyone just needed to chill out & trust the storytellers - they have a plan. relax fam, chill & this will all come together in a satisfactory manner. Loved the Zeb cameo - totally unexpected & well done.
yeah thats one thing that sorta has had me relaxed despite rocky points in this season, it seems to be setting up a great narrative payoff, almost predictably but not in the bad "eyerolling" predictability but in a satisfying way, the coverts return to Navarro seemed very obvious to me for example.
Zeb looks so good because he is entirely a CGI model with maybe some minor practical effects while The Grand Inquisitor as far as I can recall, practical effects were used only.
I enjoyed this episode and do enjoy the show, but I'm really not a fan of Disney kinda turning the Mandalorians family friendly. Maybe it's just because my most knowledgeble and favourite time period of Star Wars is The Old Republic, but I didn't feel like it was this extreme even in TCW. Compared to the Mandalorian Crusaders and Neo-Crusaders of TOR these Mandalorians are literally nothing but thugs. Wolves without teeth. And it doesn't seem like that under Disney the Mandalorians will ever get back to being the insane warriors they once were.
Honestly this was a really solid episode it had an interesting plot and gave us more looks into the greater Galaxy. I think it will be interesting to see Bo bee the bridge between the Mandalorians that are hard core and the more casual (best term I can think of) and potentially be the next Mandalore. I think we will see a new Mandalorian faction that will take up parts if not all of the Outer Rim, and will basically be described as a safe haven during the sequels which the First Order never touched (it seems clear that they will remain canon). I also think it is interesting that the New Republic feels like it is just picking up from where the New Republic left off even though the people of the Outer Rim greatly helped their cause. I also did not know that was Zeb and thought it was just a Rebel Lasat.
@@SDesWriter Because I didn't think they would introduce him here and he to me he was generally one of the worst parts of Rebels for me and my least favorite main character from the show.
As happy as I was to see Zeb in this episode (especially considering how good he looked and sounded) I feel a bit cheated that he showed up for one simple cameo and then never showed up again. I was looking forward to seeing him in action again but nope. It kinda makes me wonder why they decided to put him in this episode. Now, I don't have too much of a problem with adding legacy characters for fan service but I much prefer it if you do add a well-established character, you give them a role in the plot. Regardless, episode was pretty good, wonder if we'll see any more legacy characters in the rest of the season.
I too thought she would remove her helmet. Honestly though... the theories that claimed the armorer was Maul's assistant or whatever her name was seems to be waaaay off. The armorer seems mature, older, wise & considerate. If it's anyone that we know then the less popular theory on her being Sabine's mom is more likely but then the moment with Bo would have been the perfect time to remove her helmet and reveal who she is. So right now I'd say she is somebody new. A totally different character.
@@DS9TREK The personalities don't match the person several youtubers claimed. And the way the group operates doesn't match a Maul loyalist either. She doesn't do anything rash & only resorts to fighting when it is absolutely necessary. Most times she prefers to stay out of the action and just offer advice to the rest of them. Not even her leadership style fits anywhere near anybody formerly connected to Maul.
The parallels between the conversations here and in Tarkins meeting in Bad Batch are striking. The New Republic talk about how being harsh with those not sticking with them is too Imperial, and they're casually letting Pirates run rampant in the mid and outer rim because its either not their problem, or they dont have the resources to deal with them (after cutting down their military). While in Bad Batch, Tarkin spoke of how important it was at such a crucial time of transitioning to tighten the leash to prevent any uprising from people looking only to score for themselves. Say what you will about the Empire and its ways, but they DID bring more security and cut down on criminals, even if it was through fear
This episode was 10/10 in my eyes. Zeb was fantastic indeed and the practical effects of the pirate didn't bother me at all, I actually really liked how he behaved. About the ending, I bet the Armorer is going to send Din with Bo Katan. Because, yes, she has knowledge and access to the other mandalprians, but it's Din who has the Dark Saber. So the other mandalorians wouldn't follow Bo, but they would follow him. Who's going to be the leader in the end is a completely different topic. I think it's not going to be the Dark Saber, but the Mythosaur the deciding factor.
This episode shows also how useless it was to bring Georgi back already. He is not really needed other then selling toys. I also prefer the New Republic as portrayed in the EU. I know this one here has to fail in order to line up with the sequels but man, the EU version was so much more what you’d expect it to be after Endor, including all those pesky politics (Borsk Felya anyone?) Overall this season did not really click with me, including this episode. The move to the bigger story was expected but not well executed and the two Mando episodes that we got In Boba Fett are really missing here. So, enjoyable but not great, clearly outshone by the Bad Batch.
I wasn't fond of this ep tbh... felt like more filler action to essentially get to where we could have last ep, and tying it back to a stray plot point from the premiere of which I recall, a lot of us weren't big on either
I really hope that the entire Mandalorian culture doesn't adopt the never take your helmet off in front of anybody ever again like the rest of this cult that follows the way
While I liked this episode probably the best of this season, it's odd that yet again the best part is an unexpected cameo (hooray for Rebels!) And while I am interested in seeing Bo-Katan lead, it felt really off for the Mandalorians to fight for a new "home" just to immediately say, "we don't want it, let's go take Mandalore!" I guess maybe they wanna strike while the iron is hot, but if it truly is time to walk a new way, or in both worlds, like Bo-Katan, then wouldn't at least one sort of colony on this world be a nice start? Aside from that the Mr. Smee pirate ugnaut was great!
This episode was great, really combined all the threads the first four episodes starting laying down and it feels like we have a pretty clear direction now. That said I think a couple things might be red herrings or misdirections. Firstly I think Bo is going to need Din's help to actually unite the other mandalorians, Bo has had a pretty poor track record for leading the mandalorians and I think it's going to take a lot more than a recommendation from the Armorer to convince the others to follow her for the third time now. And secondly I think Gideon wasn't actually captured by mandalorians. Gideon's faction was shown to have plentiful access to beskar and I suspect the beskar alloy detected by the probe came from a new phase of dark trooper or similarly beskar outfitted Imperial agent. Just based on how Kane seems to be still working with the Imperial faction leads me to believe she's in on it and sabotaging NR investigations into Gideon's abduction/escape.
This episode was amazing and I had freaking CHILLS with the Armorer's speech at the end about them taking back Mandalor! What a fantastic episode, I LOVE IT!!!!
The New Republic is becoming Star Wars' version of Captain America -Winter Soldier. "Oh, no! The New Republic is being infiltrated and corrupted by Imperial remnants." "...Except it's not really a secret, and no one seems to care." 🤦🤦♂🤦♀
It’s better but I’d hardly say it’s without its flaws. Glad this season at least has some ambition and scope. The ex imperial influencing what happens in the outer rim is dumb. That whole exchange was really weird to me. The dialogue wasn’t great too. Would’ve made more sense if they said they didn’t have the resources for such a small settlement they aren’t in charge of. The new republic pilot finding them seemed contrived. Did he know the artromech was owned by a mandalorian? Is it just constantly broadcasting its location? Does it just broadcast to all the new republic people it’s with the mandalorians at their secret base? Why can bo katan take off her helmet and still be okay with their group? Seem hypocritical that they want more people to follow the way by having someone preface about their way without actually following it, because she followed both ways and say the dinosaur. Was better than the last few episodes but still, the writing is the weakest it’s ever been this season.
Her setup as the new ruler started right from episode 1, with every single episode ending on a close up shot on her. It was pretty obvious starting since episode 2. And I have absolutely no problem with it. Din sure looks a bit lost in the shuffle, but it's only because this is just the setup for a new paradigm. Boba became daimyo of Tatooine, Bo Katan is gonna become the new ruler of Mandalore, and we'll be back with the adventures of Din and Grogu within this new paradigm in season 4, with hime having new powerful allies for whenever he needs it, either against Thrawn, or any other big bad that's coming up in season 4.
Honestly disappointed by the cameo of Zeb. Hopefully he comes back, or is utilized more in Ahsoka. Honestly really hating the New Republic, who'd rather trust an ex-Imp than a veteran pilot. Seeing the Mandos actually operate as a troop was amazing, bit disappointed by the lack of medical to the man down and man fallen, but genuinely great to see the Kom'rk and the tactics. Bo-Katan was a great leader. I can defo see the Armorer as "the shaman" while Bo-Katan as "the chieftess", with Din and Paz as sort of lieutenants. Great to see a rival mando faction on the horizon. No hard feelings, business and personal matters must be seperate when you're the guns money can buy.
As a note to the "bromance" between Din & Paz, I feel it more as a clansmen respect and the respect between fathers. I also doubt the armorer will ever remove her helmet, given she's the pseudo-religious authority of the covert.
The pirate king reminds me of a Mossy Atriox (a brute villain from Halo). And I kinda dig it. I adore the design of the pirate carrier and was glad to see it again. I honestly thought that little bit we got of it in a previous episode was going to be it. A "Hey look! A cool ship!" And we never see it again.
If Mandalorians really did rescue Gideon, then a new civil war could happen. But it could also be subversion by the imperial extraction team to keep the Mandalorians fractured
Yeah looking back now this episode really tied the season together and has pushed the plot forward in a big way, the kind of thing I would expect by this point. It was a rocky road but we arrived at a very good destination. I'm definitely seeing season 3 in a much more favourable light now, hope the last 3 episodes deliver too.
I'm fairly certain the pirate was a Nikardun, which is the same species Thrawn was dealing with in the Unknown Regions. The description matches what is shown on screen, and with Thrawn to be a key player soon, I think it is safe to assume, even though I have not seen official confirmation.
I'm fairly convinced that all this is leading to Thrawn - planting some beskar, a culturally significant artefact, after he recaptures Gideon, is the big draw. If you're listening to the goings-on in the Outer Rim, breeding suspicion between the New Republic and an increasingly active Mandalorian covert is an excellent way to divide and conquer. But also there's Elia, who this episode took an interest in diverting attention from Navaro, and Teva's suggestion that there might be more to Gorian Shard's attack. Thrawn was never above using other species like the Noghri to do his dirty work and spare his troops, and I could totally see this all pointing to someone above Gideon, who planted Elia in the amnesty programme, orchestrated Gideon and Gorian's attacks on Navaro, kidnapped their asset, the Grand Moff, back, and has interest in stealth tactics in the outer rim. Perhaps Thrawn has a specific interest in Navaro, like he did on Wayland or Mykyr in Legends. A lot of time has passed since Rebels, and maybe I'm getting my hopes up, but the evidence so far seems good.
Just an idea.. the intro/recap showed the part where Paz told Din that "Death would have been justice for his atrocities", in regards to Moff Gideon being sent off to a war tribunal. So perhaps it WAS Mandalorians who kidnapped him. And that's why Elia Cane is still undercover... because they can't find Gideon. I'm most likely wrong, just thinking out loud. The only other scenario is that Moff Gideon has his own shadow group of Mandos that helped him escape. Maybe they just pressurize their helmets and converge on the Lambda shuttle, setting detonators and breaking out Gideon. (But then I wonder how Gideon would have not been killed from the vacuum of space. He would have to have some kind of breathing apparatus and a helmet.)
Clunky would be the word I'd use for this episode too. Enjoyed the action, good to see the mandalorians in action - but everything is so contrived this season? And I personally don't like that the New Republic isn't a place of hope..
I think it would have worked better if the New Republic at least started hopeful before the cracks started to show. As it's shown in Mando it was dystopian from the start and doomed to fail.
I really enjoyed this episode; however, this season has been a huge disappointment, we finally have some direction of where the story is heading, but over half way into the series. This feels like the set-up we should get in episode 2 or something. And tbh this setup is just confirming things we mostly already knew. One, that Gideon escaped, and two Bo will go on to lead the mandalorians, the only new piece of info is that Gideon was potentially taken by other mandalorians… we built up half a season to get to this point? Nevertheless I was entertained, and I hope going forward it keeps this momentum. But my highlights was seeing Zeb! and Mr Duvall!
Think you summed it up in your second sentence the direction the show was taking, so you kind a contradicted yourself by stating the show has no direction in your first sentence? The series has explicitly showed that imperial agents like Elia are among the New Republic and how fallible the New Republic is and therefore gives context to how its eventual demise to the First Order happens. This has been shown in the fantastic third episode following Dr Pershing, and the latest episode that show's the New Republic's inability to protect and monitor the outer rim. The series made it clear in season 2 that Bo wanted the Darksaber by all means. With the destruction of her castle and The Tribe taking her on as one of their own, as well as the recent episode's events regarding the mythosaur, Bo has been shown she has a place where she is welcome and can be a part of something, despite their differences in religion - to which Bo has previously been hostile towards, see season 2 when they meet Din and Boba for the first time and her hostility, showing her growth; as well as her being introspective upon viewing the mythosaur. The series focuses on Din finally getting to rest doing countless bounties as he now has a clan to be a part of and something to fight form. The series has shown the camaraderie The Tribe has and their willingness to sacrifice themselves for their family. We have seen Din take up Karga's offer to live in the sunlight, not the shadows, and how The Tribe follow his lead. This gives them a real family felling and togetherness which was not always shown before. It will make you root for them; so when we see Paz drop in with his heavy armour to clear out the streets it's a feel good moment, or when The Armorer sneak attacks them and saves Paz, we are relieved for him. You wouldn't care so much if he wasn't developed as a character. There have been signs of Grogu learning and being independent, leading the N1 back to Bo, escaping the half machine/half living creature, speaking his first words, being proficient in combat with Mandalorian weaponry. We have discovered that Moff Gideon is still active, for certain, so it remains to be seen what his intentions are. Character's are being built up that are important to the story, the tension is being built. There is plenty of time for the plot to progress. Character's like Dr Pershing were great and it provided a different perspective, Bo has developed and evolved, Paz Vizsla has evolved too, even The Armorer has shown growth and realised she needs to adapt her ways of thinking in order to prosper in these trying times. These character's are being developed so we get an attachment to them and root for them, so to add to the tension when things may go wrong. We also see Elia Kane be portrayed excellently in a couple of episodes. All this whilst doing what Star Wars has always intended to be, a fun family friendly action fantasy tale. Logic and plot aren't the only points the show needs to nail, as it is Star Wars, it wants to be fun, goofy at times, action packed. The show has done what it intends and then some. I think it's hugely unfair to suggest the story has been missing when to me it has progressed at a good pace with clear storytelling, character development, world building and relationship evolution.
@@quentin580 I’m not saying the direction of the show is non-existent, I am simply stating that until this episode I had no idea where that direction was heading, I didn’t know what the story was focusing on, or why I should care, which I have a problem with, over halfway through the season I feel we are finally setting up the season. I agree that Dr Pershing stuff was cool, however if you took that episode out and instead showed it next week, would the story for this season be fundamentally different? No, because there is no story as of yet, things are just happening. If you are enjoying it, then that’s fair enough, but I take issue with it. I personally feel that characters should be developed alongside the plot, not build them up for 5 episodes and then get the story going, and the character development we have gotten thus far, I feel is quite staggering. If this were a 20 episode season then I could understand the slow pace a little more. But we only have 8 episodes, and this is no longer a hyper focused series just on Din. So, for character development this season Din - not much has changed for him other than in the most recent episode, his getting closer to the mandolorians and now he wants to move his clan from hiding. Grougu - I couldn’t tell you; he’s done one thing so far and that’s saving Din. But other from that his character has not developed if you can even call him a character. He did some training, but that wasn’t his choice, Din decided he should train and told him what to do. Then the flashback, which he looked sad about sure, but what are his thoughts on it? What does this change for him? I don’t know. Bo - Her ideals have been challenged, and she now is with mandolorians where she feels accepted. In this current episode she is going off to find more mandolorians. The Tribe - If anything this season has done them no favours. They seem to be quite uncapable and incompetent, settling on a planet they cannot tame. I like that idea that they live in a harsh environment because they are a warrior culture, to hone their skills, it reminds me of the Mandalorians from Kotor. The problem I have is that this series is not showing that they are good at this, they don't seem adaptable considering they have already been attacked, and they spent 2 days trying to get one of their people back with no real urgency, I feel like this show is lacking on the detail. If the intention is to make them look like fish out of hot water, then I'm sold. There is camaraderie but how we got there was not engaging. There is character development, yes, I’m not saying nothing is happening, but it is not unfolding in a meaningful way, and no real plot to go along with it. What is pushing the story forward? Is reuniting the mandolorians? If so, then why is that important. The show so far has not convinced that this is a story worth telling. This is just how I feel about the show so far, I want to love this show, and as I said I liked this episode, so hopefully the story can move forward now.
Yeah good episode but it shows that this 3rd seires is a failure in terms of storyingtelling, terrible direction, over half way through with no clue who is the villain of this season is, or what the problem is, episodes went nowhere, it's a shame cause i loved the action just not the story
@@Jacques-s2n i don't know what else to say to you that I haven't already other than maybe you are expecting too much too soon? No ongoing series gives the audience everything at once because a) the stakes would never feel high when there is a big event and b) everything that comes after feels anticlimactic. Respectfully, maybe you need to watch the series through a different lens rather than actively looking for things to criticise, or to pick out, or rather than trying to watch it ONLY for progressive plot and impeccable logic, try watching it for the enjoyment factor and character engagements, action, dialogue, emotions, etc, as it is a series not a short film at the end of the day. Don't mistake me saying that for ignoring poor and obvious quality control issues if there are some. Just try and enjoy the developing relationships, the adversities they overcome and so on. They have just defeated Moff Gideon once, let it simmer until the end. 3 episodes is over 2 hours of screen time. That's plenty to build up the big bad, and longer than a film too. No series lets you have your cake and eat it all at once. Take 'The Last Of Us' for example, not sure if you've watched it? It's based on a video game I never played starring Pedro Pascal too. EVERY single episode was a slow burner in the sense of them achieving their plot i.e. taking the girl to a treatment centre to create a cure for a virus that turns everyone into a zombie. 9 episodes long, each an hour long, of them essentially travelling from A to B only for episode 9 to give a clear end in sight. But why was it so good? The characters. The bonds developed, the people. There were barely any zombies yet it was loved. My point, no matter what show you watch, if you don't care about the characters involved you won't be invested or enjoy it as much. Whilst The Mandalorian isn't quite as good as The Last Of Us as a serious drama, both do the same thing and do it well. There are new characters now and they need and deserve screen time too, they've been given it whilst the series' plot is progressing at a steady pace. The series has a clear vision, I can see it every week I watch it so I'm at a loss about your comments. Din redeemed himself with The Tribe initially, he wants Grogu to learn and be become a Mandalorian, Bo has her own goals which I've explained, all this while the New Republic makes the same mistakes as the Galactic Republic did and builds up the possibility of Moff Gideon lurking in the shadows. This episode gave us another bite of the carrot for that. Episode 3 gave us our first bite as the amnesty program officers rumoured about Gideon surviving and Elia Kane sabotaging Dr Pershing. The series has made it abundantly clear there's a lurking force that will threaten them down the line. The show is doing what it's set out and until this episode made it unclear about whether Bo was selfish or would betray the clan or Din etc. That was tension that built up. We now know she is onboard with everyone. I don't mean this in a provocative or disrespectful manner but I think there's a sense of entitlement that the show has to be to your liking otherwise it's bad, or progress how you think it should otherwise it's bad? If you can't see any direction then maybe it's because it's not going in the direction at the speed you want? I see the direction it took and I'm enjoying the ride. The pace of the ride I'm happy with. Not to mention near enough every season has been somewhat similar in the structure of how the beginning of the season establishes characters and goals, the middle slowly building up to a villain with one or two side missions to develop other characters or whatnot, and the end Din teams up with people. It's actually vaguely similar to the first 2 seasons in that sense which makes me confused about your comments even further. Your comments about episode 3 being put as a different episode and whether it'd make a difference to the series therefore proves it's bad. This doesn't make sense and doesn't hold up as valid criticism. It's an episode that could have been 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, so what? It didn't matter, it had goals it set out to achieve, to provide context to the layout of the politics of the Galaxy which will later affect the series, which it then did with this recent episode and the revelation that Gideon did in fact survive and escape trial and Elia Kane is one of many imperial spies. Why is uniting the Mandalorians important? That has been made explicitly clear throughout the whole 3 seasons. They were a prosperous group of people who lived on a successful and advanced planet wiped out by the empire. They now live in squalor, in small groups fighting/hiding to maintain the survival of their race, their culture, their people. That has been made ABUNDANTLY clear throughout season 2 and 3. Surely thst isn't a criticism you're having as to why the series is bad? The tribe, they are in hiding, on the run from any imperial remnants, maybe even have bounties on their heads too. They live in a hostile environment as cover. Maybe the direction of their inability to provide cover for themselves from such mega fauna could have been better thought out, but they successfully slain the beast and recovered Ragnar showing teamwork and competence that they supposedly don't have. Grogu, you answered the question yourself. He's sad about it. But the flashback isn't only for his purpose, it's for our purpose to see how he actually was saved. Kelleran Beck may be of importance later on too. Again, it doesn't HAVE to explain everything Grogu feels. Not everything is purely about logic and precise plot progression. However, we know Grogu blocked out that part of his life, the Armoror unlocked those memories the same way Ahsoka did when she met him, it shows he's comfortable with his new mandalorian family the same way he was comfortable around a fellow force user like Ashoka. Other than that, who doesn't like seeing a bad ass Jedi deflecting blasters and a good chase scene in the most aesthetic urban environment in Star Wars? Like bro just enjoy it!
This season is really bothering me, in how it looks like it is just all going back to the damn sequels. It really takes away from all the good stuff that I am excited by
Sorry but this episode and all the links were so contrived. ‘Why should Mandalorians sacrifice their lives… because!’. Any motivation by the Mandalorians is explained by ‘this is the way’, which other UA-camrs have proved is essentially made up. And the Mandalorians from season one would kick season 3 Mandalorians butt…
I firmly believe that Gideon is the imperial commando lieutenant under Gar and Tabor Saxon . That Mando was never named in the credits but he appears several times in rebels denoting some significance. Plus you have to take into account how much knowledge of mandalorian culture he had, and his familiarity with Bo Katan and her battle tactics . Gideon is mandalorian.
I find it slightly odd that Greef Karga doesn't have a single soldier to back him up on his planet when the pirate's attacked him,,,did he appoint himself royalty?,what army does he have if any to protect his people and himself without relying on outside help?
While I haven't gone looking for it, I've not seen any other SW channels mention that the Navarro plot of land extends to "Bulloch Canyon", which is most definitely in honor of Jeremy Bulloch. Also--Thor: In reference to yours and Naboo's theory that Bo could reclaim the darksaber due to Din being disarmed of it by the spider cyborg, and her picking it up and saving Din with it...I thinik you're right about that, and it would be a clever way for her to get it without having to fight Din (he owes her--twice, really--for saving his life, especially by using it, so ceding it to her is a bloodless way to see she gets it back).
For me something that still rings about the mines chapter it’s Bo calling Din to Mando. So, from that moment, “the mandalorian” it isn’t him exclusively
I definitely feel like we've finally found the plot, and I'm extremely excited to see what comes of this. I want to get an explanation of that weird vampire cyborg tho, that thing was metal asf.
This was definitely the best episode of the season so far. Interesting that The Mandalorian is hitting its stride right when the Bad Batch is wrapping up. I understand the complications with having a practical effects character look "right" when speaking in a close-up. Given the issues with the effects I'm a little surprised they didn't go for the method they use for Ithorians - having them mumble something in some alien language and a translator device provide the English language voice. I actually kind of like the depiction of the New Republic being more realistically flawed (much like the Galactic Republic was before the rise of the Empire) as it makes a lot of sense from real world events. Look at France after the fall of Napoleon or Rome after the assassination of Caesar - they didn't end up with an idealistic state where the opponents of the dictator made everything "perfect"; they tried to pretend that the deposed dictator never existed and go back to living the way they did before his rise... which had some pretty dire consequences.
I really loved this episode! The cameo had me shook and I’m glad that they won without too many casualties, yes most of them haven’t fought much but they were against drunk pirates. However this episode is making me believe what others had said about how they had to consolidate Rangers of the New Republic into this, but I am glad they are still getting to show us content they think is worth it.
Zebs excellent cameo makes me hope that Disney commits to more CGI characters in the live action shows. Zebb looked so good...I would have preferred a CGI grand inquisitor and CGI cad bane to the abominations that we got :( ...
F&F had saved enough goodwill for me to bite my tongue. The golden payoff is the one you set up very carefully. We now have a solid clan of Mandalorians vs imperials/pirates and dark troopers. A final where Fett&co, Ahsoka, Rangers, miners ( Timothy Olyphant) etc fight alongside Mandalorians would be epic
how about this: Ep1- Mandó and Grogu land at Bo-Katan’s house (guess he’ll already have a droid?) then they go to Mandalore and all that, Grogu has to go back and get Bo to save Mando… the episode ends with Bo-Katan seeing the Mythasaur. Ep2- Mando/Grogu/Bo-Katan fight some TIE Fighters, her castle is destroyed, and they jump to hyperspace. cut to the Mando covert doing the helmet ceremony with the youngling, and they’re attacked by monsters. Mando saves the day, but the youngling is captured, and Bo-Katan leads the war party to save him, and is accepted into the clan. Ep3- pirates attack Nevarro, they ask Teva for help, then he goes to Coruscant and the Dr. Pershing stuff can play out… ending with Teva going to the Mando planet to get their help for Nevarro. …I’m not quite happy with the third episode, but my general feeling is that this season has had a lot of wheel spinning and time wasting, and could be much more concise 🤷🏻♂️
I’m with Alan Ng of Film Threat on this one…there’s no appeal to the mythos. The overarching theme seems to now be shifting to what the fate of the Mandalorians will be. That’s not what the show started out being. It was about one of the few remaining from the creed and how he gets along in the post-Imeprial era. Now it’s heading towards how the creed resurrects itself? Part of the original appeal of Boba Fett was how much we didn’t know. How he was or maybe have been part of this creed of warriors that no longer existed as a society. How they were long gone. If anything, how the Mandalorians once were is a more appealing question. Not how they’ll return to prominence.
THIS IS THE WAY!! This week's episode was much better than the previous two weeks'. I feel that they're finally getting back on track. I am super stoked for the next episode! : - )
I'm betting that Gideon was taken by another imperial higher up on the chain, and the beskar was planted there to make it look like Mandalorians did it. Or maybe it's a fragment from new dark trooper armor if dark troopers broke him out... Either way, I think it's tied to those imperial Tie Fighters that attacked Bo's home, they couldn't be Gideon's, since he lost all his forces when he was captured, but they probably belong to the one from the remnant that he's working with/for. That's my guess.
Perhaps it's out of left field, but I think Grogru 's whole purpose is as the beast gentler. Starting with the Mudhorn, then the Book of Bobba Fett creature, then the Mythosaur. I think his presence is what called the Mythosaur, and since he wasn't with Mando and Bo, it left uninterested. Grogru has shown that his presence can awaken or coral animals, both terrifyingly, as with snow crab spider monsters and cutely with space hermit crabs. Also, again, I'm not a Star Wars lore master, but I've heard that Beskar is primarily, originally at least, used to thwart light sabers. Grogru is being kitted out to take a direct stab, most likely from Dark Saber, and live, and do his flip jump and defeat his challenger. I think they kill off Din Jarin, sadly. What's his name wants off show supposedly for awhile now. Just my thought, def could be wrong.
Zebs cameo at the beginning of the episode gave me a nod, he's was a really fun character in Rebels. For his first time in live action, he honestly looks way better than the Grand Inquisitor from the Obi-Wan Kenobi show.
If anything, how good he looked made me even more upset how bad the Grand Inquisitor and Cad Bane looked, lol.
Grand Inquisitor? You mean Quan Chi from the Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-Zero live-action cutscenes? I get them confused because the makeup was so cheap.
is that confirmed to be Zeb himself?
@@ministryofwrongthink6962 the end credits confirm it’s Zeb!
You know, it’s kind of funny seeing people complain about the callbacks to previous media.
I never watched Rebels (saw the Ahsoka-Vader and Maul-Obiwan duels on UA-cam). I didn’t recognize that character, and it was fine, it was an alien pilot loyal to the new republic.
I feel like most of the cameos are like that. You don’t need to have watched the Clone Wars or Rebels to know what’s actually going on in the show.
They were on the verge of greatness, they were this close. If only zeb had said karabast during his cameo 😂
😆Brilliant comment! The kind that tells you exactly what that feeling of something missing was caused by.
Dank Farrik!
Yeah, as he entered when he is speaking about Navarro! Man that would have been a hoot!
The New Republic Rangers should’ve fought in this latest Skirmish of Nevarro, regardless of orders. Watching Zeb fight pirates on the battlefield would’ve been cool
To think that Luke, Han and Leia and the whole Rebellion fought so hard against the Empire to restore peace in the galaxy, only for The New Republic to act like a bunch of A**holes and refuse to help those who are in need is just frustrating.
@@dereklopez9060 starting to make sense why the Jedi left the New Republic
I am hoping Zeb, Sabine, Chopper, and Hera show up with Phoenix Squadron to help fight Moff Gideon.😊
@@dereklopez9060 To be fair, the New Republic have a lot in their plate or its giving that impression so there is no peace. It cannot be anywhere so it have to pick and chose the battles.
I am going to be fair and assume you dont know the old EU were the New Republic had to fight the Imperial Remnant that was hold back by bickering Warlords since the whole "The Emperor dies and the Empire just rolls over" is naive, the New Republic had a lot of close calls when someone competent managed to show up (Palpatine Clone and of course Thrawn) so what happened in the episode doesnt really surprise me, not because "the New Republic is evil" but rather they had a lot to do and they arent the Empire that was build upon the Republic.
One thing to keep in mind is that the Rangers are likely operating with very limited resources and likely not a lot of bureaucratic support. Particularly with being a remote outpost, small and "unimportant" while the New Republic government tries to figure itself out and the partisan factions maneuver for power and control. Making an independent move with government resources against "insignificant" pirates to protect a non-member system would be career suicide at minimum, and potentially even considered treasonous. So with knowing that there was some other growing threat out there from the Imperial Remnant, this was not the time to be defiant.
He had to make a hard choice between the problem right in front of him and the larger problem he had yet to prove existed but believed was coming. Going to the Mandalorians was the middle ground, getting aid to Navarro while retaining his ability to keep investigating the looming Imperial threat.
This episode felt heavily influenced by the animated shows. Was a little slow to start, but wow did the action pick up. Really cool episode!
You know, I felt that too. It did feel a lot like the cartoons.
@@timboslice9905 Yes. I felt like I was watching a cartoon... in live action. It was pretty good... But hokey...
@@benjaminroe311ify The best Star Wars has always been a bit hokey. Han was right! :D
they nailed adapting the clone wars to live action perfectly
@@shugaroony For sure... I just though fight scenes in other hokey versions were better edited etc... But yeah wasn't horrible. Just expected better quality and care.
Maybe just me.
But this was episode 5 of an 8 episode season.
With a re-write all of this could have easily been done for an Episode 3.
IE
Episode 1 is Mando and Bo Katan going to Mandalore and joining the group. Bo Katan sees the Mythosaur
Episode 2 is them getting accepted by the group/The New Republic side with what's going on with Moff Gideon
Episode 3 is them fighting the Pirates and making the decision to go back to Mandalore and find all the other Mandalorians/New Republic realizes Moff Gideon has escaped.
But then we wouldn't have that 45 minute episode that has almost nothing to do with Mando save for the first and last parts.
They had to make relatively quick (in production terms) revisions to cover for the changes since the end of Season 2:
- Losing Cara Dune and the Rangers show.
- Attempting to redeem something out of BOBF
- Setting up Ahsoka's series
They have to patch in the necessary pieces to support the larger meta-story that Favreau and Filoni are telling. That's had an impact on the quality of this season, and the production decisions made.
Same. I'm thinking this series is due for a Patterson cut. (Heck, carve out those two Mando episodes in BoBoba and stitch them to the beginning of this season.)
I disagree. Even if some people didn't like the Dr. Pershing episode, it lay the grounds for the Gideon storyline which is now unfolding, and for his woman to be with that colonel in this one. Thor didn't go into the detail, but she heavily influenced the colonel against helping Navarro, by pointing out they weren't a member of the NR and NR had to be careful how to spend their resources.
@@JoRoq1
What quick changes ?
Between season 2 and season 3 more than two years have passed !!!
They had MORE than enough time to make a decent season with each episode of a decent lenght instead of a merely 30 minutes !
I don't agree at all with the comment of the narrator of this video !
Gorian looks to be almost completely practical effects which is really cool. It could have been done a little better but it captures the feeling of the OT.
This episode was super bittersweet. The first 30 minutes were so awesome to watch everything come together and fit into place despite every episode feeling like it went in different directions.
At the same time, I have one major gripe. It's almost certain now that this show is no longer about the Mandalorian, about Din Djarin. There was an entire scene that (in my opinion) should have gone to Din that was instead Bo-Katan's to step into. I'm holding out hope that there will be some big moment where somehow the title of Mandalore shifts from Bo-Katan to Din, but it seems that so much more work is now being put into readying Bo-Katan for that role.
Din doesnt have to be the leader for the show to be about him. He has never been a leader in this show
I personally see them setting up some sort of dual leadership between Bo and Din, they have had alot of shots together, and each episode they seem to get closer in those shots. Idk if its going to be a romantic thing necessarily, but a partnership at least IMO
I think Din is getting the Obi Wan treatment.
@Nathan That's true, but regardless of Din's fate, the payoffs should be his. We should be excited for his story, he's the character we're meant to be inhabiting. Whatever his story is, we've not experienced much if any of it, because every special character moment has been given to another character this season
I’m here to watch Din Djarin as a main character in the Mandalorian. Not sidelined as a side character
To all the people who complained about fans calling Disney out on bad design on characters like the Grand Inquisitor, I point to our new live action Zeb. This of what Disney is capable of when they actually care to put forward some effort. On the whole I’ve really liked the make up and prosthetics in this season.
The tree pirate is horrible
@@dogg311 honestly I think he looks fine himself, it’s just the puppet mouth that throws things off.
The practical effects are clunky at times, but they fit Star Wars and are still very well executed.
@@ronramen5827 I much prefer slightly clunky practical effects over bad cgi characters
@@bowenhorne0616 OMG yes, dude. the mouth movement was so clunky and lip-sync was so bad it looked like it was dubbed over from another language.
The only issue I had with Zeb is his CGI really sticks out from the background. Completely accurate to Rebels though.
We finally have a plot this season! It took way too long to get to the plot. This episode was great. Loved seeing the Mandalorians vs. the pirates on Nevarro. The Armorer always has great action scenes. I loved seeing Zeb in live action, and I hope this means he'll be in more episodes of this season and in Ahsoka. I'm hoping Moff Gideon shows up in the next episode since the ending was all about him. Can't wait to see the final 3 episodes. I know the next one is directed by Bryce Dallas Howard, and I've enjoyed every episode she's directed so far.
She always makes the family-orientated feel good episodes.
I feel the fact we had three Mando episodes in BoBF made the pacing of this season seem weird. So it made it feel weirdly long.
I didn't find the plot taking to long, it just took some detours to tell us where it wanted to end up lol 😅
Yes, this felt like the closest thing to Mando Seasons 1 and 2 that we have gotten this season.
I'm pretty sure executive meddling has been degrading this show. They realized BoBF was a real stinker so inserted Mando S2.5 in the middle of it. Brought Grogu back to sell merchandise. Shoehorning in Rangers of the New Republic story threads into Mando S3 after cancelling that show.
I was appalled by how good Zeb looked
Why didn’t they put that much effort into the Grand Inquisitor?
My favorite moments this season seem to be storylines taken from Rangers of the New Republic. Would’ve loved to see what that show had to offer. Especially if Zeb was a main character!
Great recap, Thor. I definitely liked this episode more than last week’s. That being said, my biggest issue with this season is how the episodes are put together/edited. The end scenes with Capt Teva should have been shown at the end of episode one. The Dr Pershing stuff could very easily been split up over a couple of episodes. I’m not exactly sure how much time has passed between the end of last season and this episode, but it seems like it’s been entirely too long to just now have found the wrecked shuttle that was carrying Moff Gideon. And for as big of a catch as he was, the New Republic don’t seem overly concerned with retrieving him. Once the season is over with, I’d kinda like to see a fan edit of the season. Just my 2¢
As a complete "Rebel's Head", this episode had me fist pumping at a couple points...and I've been on the "tfw?" train up until now.
If this were a pure storytelling issue this series would have been finished in season one. THIS (1st 1/2 of the season) was pure studio shenanigans jerking Grogu back prematurely.
It is excruciatingly clear that things (mando 2.5) were meddled with, and the rumors of Favreau threatening to quit make complete sense.
I’m glad we ended the episode with Bo being set up as the leader. That feels like a natural place for her story that we’ve been following all these years, to go. It feels right. I also don’t want Din Djarin tied down in one place and I want him to be free to go explore different places. Although this sets up a conflict between the two of them which I look forward to. As for Gideon, maybe I’m being too clever but I wonder if he was saved by imperials he worked with on Mandalore and maybe these imperials have beaker armor from their time occupying the planet.
Live comments:
- Shard's mouth movements - YES! It was like a damn muppet.
- ZEB! Was that really live action? I thought he was CGI.
- Capt. Teeva says he has a mole, says exactly who that mole is, and the Mandalorians... keep the mole in their midsts.
- The cowardly pilot better retreat to Hondo. Of Zeb runs into Hondo. I don't care, just give us Hondo.
- Pedro may be about to actually have to work for his Mando paycheck.
- Prediction: Bo-Katan will get word of Gideon being taken by Mandalorians. She will then hunt them down to find Fenn Rau. As I recall, he was once on the payroll of the Empire.
Thoughts on the episode: best one of the season, but still just meh.
Thoughts on the season: I'm sad that Bad Batch is over.
Yeah all this 100%
That Nevarro sequences were way too cheap. A town with 25 inhabitants. (The cheering of victory in the end were laughable in my headphones with so few voices) Extras on the attack wide shots behaving like there is no danger. Pirates in town acting overly caricatural with just a basic drunk mayhem. Disney just put more money in Mando the good moments are too often overshadowed by the cheapness. Funnily Andor never looked cheap.
Speaking facts. The riot scenes in the last episode of Andor felt like actual people lived there.
Totally agree with this. Not sure why no one else is bringing this up.
Yeah spot on. The action sequences looked cheap and in some cases just needed to be shot again. It was seemed cheap and lazy. Townspeople falling this way and that before the explosions hit. Pirates looking like idiots not menacing at all. So few townspeople. I mean I am ok if there isn't that many that confront the pirates outside of town with Karga. because not like EVERYONE evacuates successfully after such a sudden attack and take over of the town. But the fact that more weren't there to cheer on/thank the Mandalorians was kind of dumb. I mean couldn't they just get 50-60 more extras to throw on a cheap outfit and buy them lunch to cheer for the mandos for 30 minutes? I guess Disney pitching pennies. IDK...
My one problem is the fact that bo-katan took off her helmet. I understand it's most likely a political decision to make other clans more comfortable, but I feel it could have been better explained.
The entire helmet thing still hasn't been clearly defined, despite it's central importance to the story.
@@JoRoq1 I think the helmet rule is a penance being paid for not following the ways of the Mandalore. Once Mandalore is retaken, I think the rule will be relaxed if not lifted entirely.
@@delmarwilkey3176 I agree that the strict dogmatic adherence is likely a reaction to the events from the Clone Wars and the Purge. But that’s not the kind of policy that suddenly gets relaxed. The Armorer was making an explicit point, as the keeper of the Creed and essentially the High Priestess, granting a dispensation to Bo and only to Bo for a specific purpose.
But the larger point is that we don’t yet have a ready understanding of the helmet rules. It’s a crude question, but can spouses remove their helmets when they are intimate? We know they can’t at a public dinner table, but within just a blood family or ward/foundling set? We’re getting pieces here and there, and the missing parts just make it more confusing.
@@JoRoq1 Yes, but I can't see Disney doing that and relegating Katie Sackoff and Pedro Pascal to just doing voiceover.
I would have liked it better if the armorer also took off her helmet
Pleasantly surprised by Zeb, I was really scared to see what he’d look like in live action but he honestly looks great! This just makes me more sad that the inquisitors turned out the way they did lol
I really enjoyed this episode. I just wish it was the episode 3, and we had 5 episodes to come. I feel like we lost some precious time until now. But if the show continue to build into a huge finally, it’ll be probably worth the wait, like the last season.
It’s ironic how most fans were fearing Zebs transition looking at his animated counterpart, but he looks the best out of all of them, along with Ahsoka
Gorian looks like Pizza the Hut from Spaceballs.
9.5/10 episode. Fun action sequences, important plot points, a decent runtime, and a perfect cameo. All-around ton of fun! If the last 3 episodes are this good, the season is officially salvaged in my book.
Wish I could agree with you.
@@damonewilliamsjr9332 Which part did you disagree with?
@@andyb1653 To me it barely makes 8.5 and 1 whole piont is given for Zeb and because he looked so great. The graphics while stellar in some parts were lazy in others. Some of the fight scene was quite jarring. The explosions were not believable and much of the combat cartoonish. The acting of the new republic officers was somewhat wooden and not very good. The Mandalorian speeches were great and seeing them take back Navarro was cool. The intrigue of escaped Moff Gideon was interesting. Anyway. It's a matter of opinion. I thought this episode suffered from being rushed and too cartoonish. Not horrible but 7 or 7.5 with a slight booost or Zeb appearance being so cool. Not nearly 9.5 or 10 material.
Great episode but too much damage has already been done for any salvaging
@@andyb1653 The Zeb cameo was great but I feel like the recent episodes have been too mixed a bag to really salvage anything. There's just too much wasted time and not enough of the stuff I came to see. Sure, there's still the rest of this season but even if the next few episodes are all bangers, this season as a whole will still be pretty lackluster compared to the first two.
Anyone else feel robbed when the concept art rolls at the end? The quality of it is SO much better than what the show adapts of it; almost like their budget couldn't translate it? I don't know, I just feel like I'm watching a different show than seasons 1 and 2 of The Mandalorian with The Book of Boba Fett's budget and directing. The vibes are off and everything feels.. cheap?
Yeah. I'm not an expert but it seems like the Mandalorian visual effects team has actually struggled through all three seasons with 'Intermediate' scenes. What I mean are scenes that are not a huge overiew or a close up tend to be lazy and not as well produced.
Agreed, this season doesn't feel and look like S1 and S2 to me either...
I hope this Zeb cameo is essentially a test for how fans would react to his design so they can have him in Ahsoka. Maybe if he looked bad and people didn’t like him, they’d fix him up a bit before it comes out
I’d say my biggest problem with the episode was the pirate guy’s mouth. It looked like he was just making popping sounds, and I at least couldn’t tell in any scene except his hologram convo with Greef Karga. Other than that I kinda wish the pirates the armorer fought wore armor so we could see it shattering again, but that’s totally alright and neither of these things make me like the episode less
Perhaps we need to consider what proportion of the budget for this episode that little Zeb bit took up. For that reason alone, I doubt very much we'll be seeing a lot more of him.
@@Raygo. I feel like that’s not really the case, I mean, look at the company running the show, I’m sure they’re fine. And if the Ahsoka show is as much as a Rebels “sequel” as it seems to be, they need Zeb
you don't build a model like that and just show it for 35 seconds and not have plans of it him being a bigger part of another story.
The idea the Mandalorians are open to moving back to Nevarro only proves the point how stupid it was these Mandalorians purposefully settled on a planet iwth so many dangerous creatures... it was not for 'practice' to test their skills... they are always outpowered and outwitted and caught by surprise
We waited two years for him to lose his show and the way or spirit of the show....
Was it really necessary to bring Grogu with him on the fighter during the battle? Since we don't see the other foundlings on the front lines I assume they had someone watching over them while most of the tribe went and fought.
Usually Mando and Grogu are on solo adventures so it makes sense there's nowhere to leave the child during the action but in this case it just seems reckless.
They needed his mandatory screen time for the short attention span casual viewers. But you’re right, it’s plain dumb to bring grogu, especially when din has the most dangerous role of the entire attack
Gotta sell those toys.
But how about the money??!
I'm waiting to somebody to edit grogu out from most of the sequences of this season.
Aside from Jon seemingly unable to write a scene with overnight action, I'm looking forward to Bo-Katan calling in the other Mandolorian clans. Bet the first person she contacts is Sabine, who will travel to Navarro and train Din to use the Dark Saber.
What bothered me about the episode is TIME. After the pirates land on Navarro. Griff sends out the message to Teva, who receives it the same day, flies to Courasant the same day, is rebuffed by the New Republic, flies back to the Rim and finds Din, still the same say. Din the persuades the Covert to help Navarro, they fly off on still on that same day? ( the Covert has NO SHIPS? How did they reach the planet?)
Meanwhile Navarro has been taking fire from the pirates, the citizens hide in the mines in the salt flats and behold Din & Bo-Katan appear. All on the same day? We didn't see the citizens huddled together under a night sky, burning fires to keep warm.
And probably before dinner as it has been bright daylight in every scene.
Jon obviously doesn't believe in lapsed time or time zones. Yet last week, to rescue Ragnar, the Mandolorians spent the night by the Dragon-raptor's nest. They rescued the boy the next morning, and they were on the same planet, a few hours away from their caves.
Who says it was all in one day?
@DS9TREK did you see any hint there was an overnight? In the previous episode, when rescuing Ragnar, the group settled in for the night, deciding to climb to the nest early the next morning. Then where was the night scene with the refugees in the caves? Huddling around fires for warmth?
The survivor group of townspeople is way too tiny for a city that size!
It took 5 episodes to find out Moff Gideon has escaped after the season 2 climax. It took -2 episodes to find out Grogu went back to Din after the season 2 climax.
Something is very off.
Although this was an improvement, I still feel like this show should be better. The writing feels hollow or empty? When I compare it to The Bad Batch, I feel more invested in clone force 99 than the Mandalorians. The Mandalorians are supposed to be the best warriors in the galaxy and they are written to be average fighters. There is some great things like Zeb, but not what I would expect from thier flagship show. Bad Batch is a better written show in my opinion.
I think all of the baggage from all the other Disney Star Wars projects (old, canceled and new) is weighing this show down.
Best episode yet. I loved the Mandalorians fighting together. The brutality of the Armorer. Zeb. So good.
This was a great episode. The way that the Mandalorians worked as a sort of special ops force in combat was epic. Zeb’s cameo was definitely a hint towards things to come and the end was fantastic. Overall the best installment so far this season.
Yeah, if the "Special Ops" was incompetent and only succeeded because they battle even more incompetent forces.
@@MafistoOU812lol what? They were perfectly competent until they got ambushed. Plus plenty of real-life spec-ops missions go wrong due to ambushes and other unforseen circumstances.
@@lordoftime1586 you nailed it, they were perfectly competent... until they started taking fire. Then they got stupid. Some took cover to return fire, while others just stood out in the open presenting themselves as targets. And then when they started taking fire from another direction, they all moved out into the open to expose themselves to fire from both sides. Unless you have magical Disney plot armor, that's about the worst thing they could have done. And they've got JET PACKS. Why didn't they have someone up on a roof providing overwatch? And as soon as they got "pinned down" why didn't they use the jet packs to move to better cover? Either to the roofs, or just away from any line of fire. No, they just stood there and took fire like idiots until they could be rescued. This is what "spec-ops" looks like to people who grew up playing Halo & CoD without any idea of real world tactics.
I was sceptical at first. But this episode pleasantly suprised me.
It started with the xwing pilot and I was like.. oh are we going to follow him all episodr now? Like the proffessor episode. Not bad but I wanted story progress.
And they did deliver.
It had story, action and mystery.
The scene with the imperial shuttle was really cool. So eary and from the first moment knew it was Gideons.. and indeed it was confirmed.
Another thing I liked: the episode actually showed the Mandalorians as a capale fighting force not to be messed with.
And one last thing I love the sets and costunes this season. It just feels more real then s1 and s2. Feels more practical for some reason.
Looking forward to the next episode
Best episode of the season so far and hopefully a good sign for the rest of the season.
Zeb really looked good in live action but I didn't realize it was supposed to be him at first. Hopefully, he will get more than a cameo.
Speaking of cameos, Grogu made his mandatory cameos because toys must be sold! There's been no point to his presence in the season thus far although I really did like the flashback from episode 4.
As far as the New Republic goes, I think it is important to remember this is still only a few years after the Battle of Endor. Overthrowing a government is one things but setting up a well-functioning government is far more difficult. That the New Republic is struggling with resources shortages and having to use a lot of leftover bureaucracy from the Empire (and maybe even the original Republic) is understandable. So is the idea that imperial remnants might still be concealed within the government and using it for their own ends. That being said, if they end up making the New Republic into the Empire lite then I will take issue with that.
I greatly enjoyed the fight over Nevarro although a town that size should have had thousands of refugees trying to get out, not a couple of dozen. Planets are also big; how can taking over one town amount to conquering the planet?
How did the Mandalorians get a ship to go to Nevarro when shortly beforehand Din specifically said they had no ships?
This is a problem that goes well beyond this show but why in Disney Star Wars does it seem like every place anyone wants to go to is always a hop, skip, and a jump from wherever they actually are? A galaxy is a big place.
Despite the flaws, I still found this a good and entertaining episode but there's a part of me that keeps thinking how great this could be with Andor caliber writing.
Now this is the Way! It's my birthday and I get - IMO - a legitimately good episode of Mando. When it started, I was mildly concerned it was going to be a repeat of the Coruscant ep where the titular character was hardly in it, but no, this is how that ep should have been structured, with a few scenes not centered around him (or is it THEM now?), then back to him.
Also, once again, Grogu really serves no purpose in this ep, which continues to make me think that he was not supposed to be in this season at all. And I couldn't have been the only one halfway expecting the Armourer to take off her helmet as well in that scene with Bo, right?
Two final thoughts: I note that Bo and Din were sitting awfully close together in the Covert and I was actually slightly disappointed that he didn't immediately volunteer to accompany her in the gathering of the clans, not necessarily in a romantic or shippy way but simply because she's his friend.
I actually like the direction they are taking the New Republic in. While the fanbase has long had a rather romantic concept of what the New Republic would be like, with Mon Mothma and Leia as the larger-than-life driving personalities, this feels more accurate. Recall, they would have just come out of a full generation of Imperial oppression and the corruption of the Old Republic before that. The various factions forming the new government would be heavily partisan, with goals ranging from "fair and peaceful" to "our turn now". Particularly within the factions from the heavily oppressed worlds and those who actually fought in the Rebellion there would be high resentment towards Imperials/Sympathizers on one hand and towards the "neutral" systems that contributed nothing to the war effort on the other.
And we are getting all this even without having Bothan Senator Fey'lya (from the original Thrawn trilogy) officially brought into the new continuity.
I love the ideas they are presenting as we know The New Republic ultimately fails. Just feel like the execution comes off too comical sometimes.
The idea of Imperials hiding in the ranks of The New Republic is genius. A lot like WWII getting scientists from the Axis side.
I still think its out of character dumb that they made Mon Mothma the one that demilitarized the New Republic while Leia let it happened. That was so dumb and was as much as a character assassination of Luke.
@@vashythewabbit8288 There’s actually a sense to it. The Imperial military was the symbol of the Empire’s domination. The private security corporations were subservient to the military, and any local security was required to completely capitulate. By scrapping the war fleets, they achieved three things:
1. Symbolically demonstrated that the New Republic was not going to dominate like the Empire did.
2. Return the responsibility for security to the local systems and sectors, with a minimal Republic presence (in the form of the Rangers) to handle inter-sector and Republic-specific issues.
3. Remove dangerous ships and technology (both the cobbled scrap ships the Rebellion used and the highly advanced Imperial designs) from the board.
I must admit the whole scene were Teeva just happens to find the Mandalorian's hideout planet because of R5 made me roll my eyes. Too convenient. I think the more I know and learn about the current Mandalorians the less and less I like them as characters. They feel more like mindless drones rather than incredible warriors. I think the traces of Beskar found on the ship is a plant by the Imps to make the New Republic turn against the Mandalorians. They do have plenty of Beskar because they paid Din with some for "turning in" Grogu.
You know. I forgot that bit. Din was paid by a boatload of Beskar to retrieve Grogu. Mof Gideon was behind the hiring. So he has access to a terrific amount of beskar hidden somewhere. Could he have had beskar armor forged for some of his soldiers?
Agreed. 100% that was lame. I mean it COULD happen I suppose but still damned convenient.
The pirate reminds me of Pizza the Hutt
glad you liked it, Thor. i am starting to get Star Wars depression
Same
@@damonewilliamsjr9332 it’s so weird to not care anymore, i held on hope for so long
@@jamesmurray8572 Dealing with so much frustration and disappointment will do that to you.
@@damonewilliamsjr9332 i wish i liked sports
I hear you man, I see all the positive comments and Thor all enthusiastic, but to be honest this episode to me was really bad. I want to enjoy the show, but each week I discover I care a little less... I guess that's what happens when your live action TV show is more cartoonish and stupid than the literal cartoon show... honestly the bad batch was so much better than Mando all these 5 weeks.
I will finish the season just to see where it ends, but not sure if I will return for season 4
Those may have been the worst Pirates I have ever seen.
The biggest problem that I have so far is that we are over halfway through the season, and we are just now getting a sense of where the story is going. I don't mind a slower paced show that takes its time to set up the plot and/or characters. But it needs either a) more episodes per season or b) longer episodes. Or both.
That said, I have still enjoyed a lot of this season, and this particular episode really hit the mark. Hopefully, they continue to build on the momentum.
as I've previously commented (I told you so) - everyone just needed to chill out & trust the storytellers - they have a plan. relax fam, chill & this will all come together in a satisfactory manner. Loved the Zeb cameo - totally unexpected & well done.
yeah thats one thing that sorta has had me relaxed despite rocky points in this season, it seems to be setting up a great narrative payoff, almost predictably but not in the bad "eyerolling" predictability but in a satisfying way, the coverts return to Navarro seemed very obvious to me for example.
Zeb looks so good because he is entirely a CGI model with maybe some minor practical effects while The Grand Inquisitor as far as I can recall, practical effects were used only.
I enjoyed this episode and do enjoy the show, but I'm really not a fan of Disney kinda turning the Mandalorians family friendly.
Maybe it's just because my most knowledgeble and favourite time period of Star Wars is The Old Republic, but I didn't feel like it was this extreme even in TCW. Compared to the Mandalorian Crusaders and Neo-Crusaders of TOR these Mandalorians are literally nothing but thugs. Wolves without teeth. And it doesn't seem like that under Disney the Mandalorians will ever get back to being the insane warriors they once were.
That monkey lizard was the true MVP of the battle
Honestly this was a really solid episode it had an interesting plot and gave us more looks into the greater Galaxy. I think it will be interesting to see Bo bee the bridge between the Mandalorians that are hard core and the more casual (best term I can think of) and potentially be the next Mandalore. I think we will see a new Mandalorian faction that will take up parts if not all of the Outer Rim, and will basically be described as a safe haven during the sequels which the First Order never touched (it seems clear that they will remain canon). I also think it is interesting that the New Republic feels like it is just picking up from where the New Republic left off even though the people of the Outer Rim greatly helped their cause. I also did not know that was Zeb and thought it was just a Rebel Lasat.
Hell, I recognized the voice before I even saw him. How could you miss that?
@@SDesWriter Because I didn't think they would introduce him here and he to me he was generally one of the worst parts of Rebels for me and my least favorite main character from the show.
As happy as I was to see Zeb in this episode (especially considering how good he looked and sounded) I feel a bit cheated that he showed up for one simple cameo and then never showed up again. I was looking forward to seeing him in action again but nope. It kinda makes me wonder why they decided to put him in this episode. Now, I don't have too much of a problem with adding legacy characters for fan service but I much prefer it if you do add a well-established character, you give them a role in the plot.
Regardless, episode was pretty good, wonder if we'll see any more legacy characters in the rest of the season.
I too thought she would remove her helmet. Honestly though... the theories that claimed the armorer was Maul's assistant or whatever her name was seems to be waaaay off. The armorer seems mature, older, wise & considerate. If it's anyone that we know then the less popular theory on her being Sabine's mom is more likely but then the moment with Bo would have been the perfect time to remove her helmet and reveal who she is. So right now I'd say she is somebody new. A totally different character.
She could be a former Maul loyalist. It's been almost 30 years since then
@@DS9TREK The personalities don't match the person several youtubers claimed. And the way the group operates doesn't match a Maul loyalist either. She doesn't do anything rash & only resorts to fighting when it is absolutely necessary. Most times she prefers to stay out of the action and just offer advice to the rest of them. Not even her leadership style fits anywhere near anybody formerly connected to Maul.
The parallels between the conversations here and in Tarkins meeting in Bad Batch are striking.
The New Republic talk about how being harsh with those not sticking with them is too Imperial, and they're casually letting Pirates run rampant in the mid and outer rim because its either not their problem, or they dont have the resources to deal with them (after cutting down their military).
While in Bad Batch, Tarkin spoke of how important it was at such a crucial time of transitioning to tighten the leash to prevent any uprising from people looking only to score for themselves.
Say what you will about the Empire and its ways, but they DID bring more security and cut down on criminals, even if it was through fear
This episode was 10/10 in my eyes. Zeb was fantastic indeed and the practical effects of the pirate didn't bother me at all, I actually really liked how he behaved.
About the ending, I bet the Armorer is going to send Din with Bo Katan. Because, yes, she has knowledge and access to the other mandalprians, but it's Din who has the Dark Saber. So the other mandalorians wouldn't follow Bo, but they would follow him.
Who's going to be the leader in the end is a completely different topic. I think it's not going to be the Dark Saber, but the Mythosaur the deciding factor.
This episode shows also how useless it was to bring Georgi back already. He is not really needed other then selling toys.
I also prefer the New Republic as portrayed in the EU. I know this one here has to fail in order to line up with the sequels but man, the EU version was so much more what you’d expect it to be after Endor, including all those pesky politics (Borsk Felya anyone?)
Overall this season did not really click with me, including this episode. The move to the bigger story was expected but not well executed and the two Mando episodes that we got
In Boba Fett are really missing here. So, enjoyable but not great, clearly outshone by the Bad Batch.
I wasn't fond of this ep tbh... felt like more filler action to essentially get to where we could have last ep, and tying it back to a stray plot point from the premiere of which I recall, a lot of us weren't big on either
The action and visuals alone were amazing, but even when I high I still picked up on the poor writing/dialogue
I really hope that the entire Mandalorian culture doesn't adopt the never take your helmet off in front of anybody ever again like the rest of this cult that follows the way
While I liked this episode probably the best of this season, it's odd that yet again the best part is an unexpected cameo (hooray for Rebels!) And while I am interested in seeing Bo-Katan lead, it felt really off for the Mandalorians to fight for a new "home" just to immediately say, "we don't want it, let's go take Mandalore!" I guess maybe they wanna strike while the iron is hot, but if it truly is time to walk a new way, or in both worlds, like Bo-Katan, then wouldn't at least one sort of colony on this world be a nice start? Aside from that the Mr. Smee pirate ugnaut was great!
This episode was great, really combined all the threads the first four episodes starting laying down and it feels like we have a pretty clear direction now. That said I think a couple things might be red herrings or misdirections.
Firstly I think Bo is going to need Din's help to actually unite the other mandalorians, Bo has had a pretty poor track record for leading the mandalorians and I think it's going to take a lot more than a recommendation from the Armorer to convince the others to follow her for the third time now.
And secondly I think Gideon wasn't actually captured by mandalorians. Gideon's faction was shown to have plentiful access to beskar and I suspect the beskar alloy detected by the probe came from a new phase of dark trooper or similarly beskar outfitted Imperial agent. Just based on how Kane seems to be still working with the Imperial faction leads me to believe she's in on it and sabotaging NR investigations into Gideon's abduction/escape.
This episode was amazing and I had freaking CHILLS with the Armorer's speech at the end about them taking back Mandalor! What a fantastic episode, I LOVE IT!!!!
I loved how egos were put aside and they got bo to lead as they knew she had the experience
I've stopped watching all Disney Star Wars (only waiting for Andor S2) so thanks for the summery.
i cant even pretend to give a shit about this show and I actually liked the first two seasons
The New Republic is becoming Star Wars' version of Captain America -Winter Soldier. "Oh, no! The New Republic is being infiltrated and corrupted by Imperial remnants." "...Except it's not really a secret, and no one seems to care." 🤦🤦♂🤦♀
could’ve done without the silly New Republic bureaucracy interlude…
Having grown up playing Star Fox 64, I loved the puppet mouth movements followed by a sweet spaceship battle.
It’s better but I’d hardly say it’s without its flaws. Glad this season at least has some ambition and scope.
The ex imperial influencing what happens in the outer rim is dumb. That whole exchange was really weird to me. The dialogue wasn’t great too. Would’ve made more sense if they said they didn’t have the resources for such a small settlement they aren’t in charge of.
The new republic pilot finding them seemed contrived. Did he know the artromech was owned by a mandalorian? Is it just constantly broadcasting its location? Does it just broadcast to all the new republic people it’s with the mandalorians at their secret base?
Why can bo katan take off her helmet and still be okay with their group? Seem hypocritical that they want more people to follow the way by having someone preface about their way without actually following it, because she followed both ways and say the dinosaur.
Was better than the last few episodes but still, the writing is the weakest it’s ever been this season.
Her setup as the new ruler started right from episode 1, with every single episode ending on a close up shot on her. It was pretty obvious starting since episode 2.
And I have absolutely no problem with it.
Din sure looks a bit lost in the shuffle, but it's only because this is just the setup for a new paradigm. Boba became daimyo of Tatooine, Bo Katan is gonna become the new ruler of Mandalore, and we'll be back with the adventures of Din and Grogu within this new paradigm in season 4, with hime having new powerful allies for whenever he needs it, either against Thrawn, or any other big bad that's coming up in season 4.
Pirate activity, syndicate activity, imperial remnant activity. Sound just like Lucas ideas for the sequel trilogy, he just had Maul behind it all.
I'm not enjoying how they're turning The New Republic into people who don't care. And I feel like this is becoming the Bo Katan show.
Honestly disappointed by the cameo of Zeb. Hopefully he comes back, or is utilized more in Ahsoka. Honestly really hating the New Republic, who'd rather trust an ex-Imp than a veteran pilot.
Seeing the Mandos actually operate as a troop was amazing, bit disappointed by the lack of medical to the man down and man fallen, but genuinely great to see the Kom'rk and the tactics.
Bo-Katan was a great leader. I can defo see the Armorer as "the shaman" while Bo-Katan as "the chieftess", with Din and Paz as sort of lieutenants.
Great to see a rival mando faction on the horizon. No hard feelings, business and personal matters must be seperate when you're the guns money can buy.
As a note to the "bromance" between Din & Paz, I feel it more as a clansmen respect and the respect between fathers.
I also doubt the armorer will ever remove her helmet, given she's the pseudo-religious authority of the covert.
The pirate king reminds me of a Mossy Atriox (a brute villain from Halo). And I kinda dig it. I adore the design of the pirate carrier and was glad to see it again. I honestly thought that little bit we got of it in a previous episode was going to be it. A "Hey look! A cool ship!" And we never see it again.
If Mandalorians really did rescue Gideon, then a new civil war could happen. But it could also be subversion by the imperial extraction team to keep the Mandalorians fractured
It's 100% an imperial plant to set the New Republic against the Mandalorians
Yeah looking back now this episode really tied the season together and has pushed the plot forward in a big way, the kind of thing I would expect by this point. It was a rocky road but we arrived at a very good destination. I'm definitely seeing season 3 in a much more favourable light now, hope the last 3 episodes deliver too.
I'm fairly certain the pirate was a Nikardun, which is the same species Thrawn was dealing with in the Unknown Regions. The description matches what is shown on screen, and with Thrawn to be a key player soon, I think it is safe to assume, even though I have not seen official confirmation.
I like Bo, but who’s show are we watching here in season 3? It feels like we’re watching a Clone Wars spin off.
I'm fairly convinced that all this is leading to Thrawn - planting some beskar, a culturally significant artefact, after he recaptures Gideon, is the big draw. If you're listening to the goings-on in the Outer Rim, breeding suspicion between the New Republic and an increasingly active Mandalorian covert is an excellent way to divide and conquer.
But also there's Elia, who this episode took an interest in diverting attention from Navaro, and Teva's suggestion that there might be more to Gorian Shard's attack. Thrawn was never above using other species like the Noghri to do his dirty work and spare his troops, and I could totally see this all pointing to someone above Gideon, who planted Elia in the amnesty programme, orchestrated Gideon and Gorian's attacks on Navaro, kidnapped their asset, the Grand Moff, back, and has interest in stealth tactics in the outer rim. Perhaps Thrawn has a specific interest in Navaro, like he did on Wayland or Mykyr in Legends.
A lot of time has passed since Rebels, and maybe I'm getting my hopes up, but the evidence so far seems good.
Just an idea.. the intro/recap showed the part where Paz told Din that "Death would have been justice for his atrocities", in regards to Moff Gideon being sent off to a war tribunal. So perhaps it WAS Mandalorians who kidnapped him. And that's why Elia Cane is still undercover... because they can't find Gideon. I'm most likely wrong, just thinking out loud. The only other scenario is that Moff Gideon has his own shadow group of Mandos that helped him escape. Maybe they just pressurize their helmets and converge on the Lambda shuttle, setting detonators and breaking out Gideon. (But then I wonder how Gideon would have not been killed from the vacuum of space. He would have to have some kind of breathing apparatus and a helmet.)
Clunky would be the word I'd use for this episode too. Enjoyed the action, good to see the mandalorians in action - but everything is so contrived this season? And I personally don't like that the New Republic isn't a place of hope..
Gotta justify the sequels. Won't work but gotta try anyway. Even if it ruins your flagship show.
Well you can’t expect the New Republic to be a saint with different agendas being a thing.
I think it would have worked better if the New Republic at least started hopeful before the cracks started to show. As it's shown in Mando it was dystopian from the start and doomed to fail.
@@achaudhari101 it doesn't need to be a saint to be hopeful. Like in legends it could be imperfect but hopeful
I really enjoyed this episode; however, this season has been a huge disappointment, we finally have some direction of where the story is heading, but over half way into the series. This feels like the set-up we should get in episode 2 or something.
And tbh this setup is just confirming things we mostly already knew. One, that Gideon escaped, and two Bo will go on to lead the mandalorians, the only new piece of info is that Gideon was potentially taken by other mandalorians… we built up half a season to get to this point? Nevertheless I was entertained, and I hope going forward it keeps this momentum.
But my highlights was seeing Zeb! and Mr Duvall!
Season 1 didnt have a real plot till episode 7
Think you summed it up in your second sentence the direction the show was taking, so you kind a contradicted yourself by stating the show has no direction in your first sentence?
The series has explicitly showed that imperial agents like Elia are among the New Republic and how fallible the New Republic is and therefore gives context to how its eventual demise to the First Order happens. This has been shown in the fantastic third episode following Dr Pershing, and the latest episode that show's the New Republic's inability to protect and monitor the outer rim.
The series made it clear in season 2 that Bo wanted the Darksaber by all means. With the destruction of her castle and The Tribe taking her on as one of their own, as well as the recent episode's events regarding the mythosaur, Bo has been shown she has a place where she is welcome and can be a part of something, despite their differences in religion - to which Bo has previously been hostile towards, see season 2 when they meet Din and Boba for the first time and her hostility, showing her growth; as well as her being introspective upon viewing the mythosaur.
The series focuses on Din finally getting to rest doing countless bounties as he now has a clan to be a part of and something to fight form. The series has shown the camaraderie The Tribe has and their willingness to sacrifice themselves for their family. We have seen Din take up Karga's offer to live in the sunlight, not the shadows, and how The Tribe follow his lead. This gives them a real family felling and togetherness which was not always shown before. It will make you root for them; so when we see Paz drop in with his heavy armour to clear out the streets it's a feel good moment, or when The Armorer sneak attacks them and saves Paz, we are relieved for him. You wouldn't care so much if he wasn't developed as a character.
There have been signs of Grogu learning and being independent, leading the N1 back to Bo, escaping the half machine/half living creature, speaking his first words, being proficient in combat with Mandalorian weaponry.
We have discovered that Moff Gideon is still active, for certain, so it remains to be seen what his intentions are.
Character's are being built up that are important to the story, the tension is being built. There is plenty of time for the plot to progress. Character's like Dr Pershing were great and it provided a different perspective, Bo has developed and evolved, Paz Vizsla has evolved too, even The Armorer has shown growth and realised she needs to adapt her ways of thinking in order to prosper in these trying times. These character's are being developed so we get an attachment to them and root for them, so to add to the tension when things may go wrong. We also see Elia Kane be portrayed excellently in a couple of episodes. All this whilst doing what Star Wars has always intended to be, a fun family friendly action fantasy tale. Logic and plot aren't the only points the show needs to nail, as it is Star Wars, it wants to be fun, goofy at times, action packed. The show has done what it intends and then some. I think it's hugely unfair to suggest the story has been missing when to me it has progressed at a good pace with clear storytelling, character development, world building and relationship evolution.
@@quentin580 I’m not saying the direction of the show is non-existent, I am simply stating that until this episode I had no idea where that direction was heading, I didn’t know what the story was focusing on, or why I should care, which I have a problem with, over halfway through the season I feel we are finally setting up the season. I agree that Dr Pershing stuff was cool, however if you took that episode out and instead showed it next week, would the story for this season be fundamentally different? No, because there is no story as of yet, things are just happening. If you are enjoying it, then that’s fair enough, but I take issue with it.
I personally feel that characters should be developed alongside the plot, not build them up for 5 episodes and then get the story going, and the character development we have gotten thus far, I feel is quite staggering. If this were a 20 episode season then I could understand the slow pace a little more. But we only have 8 episodes, and this is no longer a hyper focused series just on Din.
So, for character development this season
Din - not much has changed for him other than in the most recent episode, his getting closer to the mandolorians and now he wants to move his clan from hiding.
Grougu - I couldn’t tell you; he’s done one thing so far and that’s saving Din. But other from that his character has not developed if you can even call him a character. He did some training, but that wasn’t his choice, Din decided he should train and told him what to do. Then the flashback, which he looked sad about sure, but what are his thoughts on it? What does this change for him? I don’t know.
Bo - Her ideals have been challenged, and she now is with mandolorians where she feels accepted. In this current episode she is going off to find more mandolorians.
The Tribe - If anything this season has done them no favours. They seem to be quite uncapable and incompetent, settling on a planet they cannot tame. I like that idea that they live in a harsh environment because they are a warrior culture, to hone their skills, it reminds me of the Mandalorians from Kotor. The problem I have is that this series is not showing that they are good at this, they don't seem adaptable considering they have already been attacked, and they spent 2 days trying to get one of their people back with no real urgency, I feel like this show is lacking on the detail. If the intention is to make them look like fish out of hot water, then I'm sold. There is camaraderie but how we got there was not engaging.
There is character development, yes, I’m not saying nothing is happening, but it is not unfolding in a meaningful way, and no real plot to go along with it. What is pushing the story forward? Is reuniting the mandolorians? If so, then why is that important. The show so far has not convinced that this is a story worth telling.
This is just how I feel about the show so far, I want to love this show, and as I said I liked this episode, so hopefully the story can move forward now.
Yeah good episode but it shows that this 3rd seires is a failure in terms of storyingtelling, terrible direction, over half way through with no clue who is the villain of this season is, or what the problem is, episodes went nowhere, it's a shame cause i loved the action just not the story
@@Jacques-s2n i don't know what else to say to you that I haven't already other than maybe you are expecting too much too soon?
No ongoing series gives the audience everything at once because a) the stakes would never feel high when there is a big event and b) everything that comes after feels anticlimactic. Respectfully, maybe you need to watch the series through a different lens rather than actively looking for things to criticise, or to pick out, or rather than trying to watch it ONLY for progressive plot and impeccable logic, try watching it for the enjoyment factor and character engagements, action, dialogue, emotions, etc, as it is a series not a short film at the end of the day. Don't mistake me saying that for ignoring poor and obvious quality control issues if there are some. Just try and enjoy the developing relationships, the adversities they overcome and so on. They have just defeated Moff Gideon once, let it simmer until the end. 3 episodes is over 2 hours of screen time. That's plenty to build up the big bad, and longer than a film too.
No series lets you have your cake and eat it all at once. Take 'The Last Of Us' for example, not sure if you've watched it? It's based on a video game I never played starring Pedro Pascal too. EVERY single episode was a slow burner in the sense of them achieving their plot i.e. taking the girl to a treatment centre to create a cure for a virus that turns everyone into a zombie. 9 episodes long, each an hour long, of them essentially travelling from A to B only for episode 9 to give a clear end in sight. But why was it so good? The characters. The bonds developed, the people. There were barely any zombies yet it was loved. My point, no matter what show you watch, if you don't care about the characters involved you won't be invested or enjoy it as much. Whilst The Mandalorian isn't quite as good as The Last Of Us as a serious drama, both do the same thing and do it well. There are new characters now and they need and deserve screen time too, they've been given it whilst the series' plot is progressing at a steady pace.
The series has a clear vision, I can see it every week I watch it so I'm at a loss about your comments. Din redeemed himself with The Tribe initially, he wants Grogu to learn and be become a Mandalorian, Bo has her own goals which I've explained, all this while the New Republic makes the same mistakes as the Galactic Republic did and builds up the possibility of Moff Gideon lurking in the shadows. This episode gave us another bite of the carrot for that. Episode 3 gave us our first bite as the amnesty program officers rumoured about Gideon surviving and Elia Kane sabotaging Dr Pershing. The series has made it abundantly clear there's a lurking force that will threaten them down the line. The show is doing what it's set out and until this episode made it unclear about whether Bo was selfish or would betray the clan or Din etc. That was tension that built up. We now know she is onboard with everyone.
I don't mean this in a provocative or disrespectful manner but I think there's a sense of entitlement that the show has to be to your liking otherwise it's bad, or progress how you think it should otherwise it's bad? If you can't see any direction then maybe it's because it's not going in the direction at the speed you want? I see the direction it took and I'm enjoying the ride. The pace of the ride I'm happy with.
Not to mention near enough every season has been somewhat similar in the structure of how the beginning of the season establishes characters and goals, the middle slowly building up to a villain with one or two side missions to develop other characters or whatnot, and the end Din teams up with people. It's actually vaguely similar to the first 2 seasons in that sense which makes me confused about your comments even further.
Your comments about episode 3 being put as a different episode and whether it'd make a difference to the series therefore proves it's bad. This doesn't make sense and doesn't hold up as valid criticism. It's an episode that could have been 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, so what? It didn't matter, it had goals it set out to achieve, to provide context to the layout of the politics of the Galaxy which will later affect the series, which it then did with this recent episode and the revelation that Gideon did in fact survive and escape trial and Elia Kane is one of many imperial spies.
Why is uniting the Mandalorians important? That has been made explicitly clear throughout the whole 3 seasons. They were a prosperous group of people who lived on a successful and advanced planet wiped out by the empire. They now live in squalor, in small groups fighting/hiding to maintain the survival of their race, their culture, their people. That has been made ABUNDANTLY clear throughout season 2 and 3. Surely thst isn't a criticism you're having as to why the series is bad?
The tribe, they are in hiding, on the run from any imperial remnants, maybe even have bounties on their heads too. They live in a hostile environment as cover. Maybe the direction of their inability to provide cover for themselves from such mega fauna could have been better thought out, but they successfully slain the beast and recovered Ragnar showing teamwork and competence that they supposedly don't have.
Grogu, you answered the question yourself. He's sad about it. But the flashback isn't only for his purpose, it's for our purpose to see how he actually was saved. Kelleran Beck may be of importance later on too. Again, it doesn't HAVE to explain everything Grogu feels. Not everything is purely about logic and precise plot progression. However, we know Grogu blocked out that part of his life, the Armoror unlocked those memories the same way Ahsoka did when she met him, it shows he's comfortable with his new mandalorian family the same way he was comfortable around a fellow force user like Ashoka. Other than that, who doesn't like seeing a bad ass Jedi deflecting blasters and a good chase scene in the most aesthetic urban environment in Star Wars? Like bro just enjoy it!
The Rangers of New Republic would’ve been perfect for the Ghost crew to be in.
This season is really bothering me, in how it looks like it is just all going back to the damn sequels. It really takes away from all the good stuff that I am excited by
Same. Those sequels are a poison
Sorry but this episode and all the links were so contrived. ‘Why should Mandalorians sacrifice their lives… because!’. Any motivation by the Mandalorians is explained by ‘this is the way’, which other UA-camrs have proved is essentially made up. And the Mandalorians from season one would kick season 3 Mandalorians butt…
I firmly believe that Gideon is the imperial commando lieutenant under Gar and Tabor Saxon . That Mando was never named in the credits but he appears several times in rebels denoting some significance. Plus you have to take into account how much knowledge of mandalorian culture he had, and his familiarity with Bo Katan and her battle tactics . Gideon is mandalorian.
I find it slightly odd that Greef Karga doesn't have a single soldier to back him up on his planet when the pirate's attacked him,,,did he appoint himself royalty?,what army does he have if any to protect his people and himself without relying on outside help?
While I haven't gone looking for it, I've not seen any other SW channels mention that the Navarro plot of land extends to "Bulloch Canyon", which is most definitely in honor of Jeremy Bulloch.
Also--Thor: In reference to yours and Naboo's theory that Bo could reclaim the darksaber due to Din being disarmed of it by the spider cyborg, and her picking it up and saving Din with it...I thinik you're right about that, and it would be a clever way for her to get it without having to fight Din (he owes her--twice, really--for saving his life, especially by using it, so ceding it to her is a bloodless way to see she gets it back).
This was the best episode of the season so far!!! And I was not expecting that Zeb cameo!!!! That was AWESOME!!!
I literally reloaded the video when the pirate king was in the hologram because I thought my video was out of sync
For me something that still rings about the mines chapter it’s Bo calling Din to Mando. So, from that moment, “the mandalorian” it isn’t him exclusively
I definitely feel like we've finally found the plot, and I'm extremely excited to see what comes of this. I want to get an explanation of that weird vampire cyborg tho, that thing was metal asf.
This was definitely the best episode of the season so far. Interesting that The Mandalorian is hitting its stride right when the Bad Batch is wrapping up.
I understand the complications with having a practical effects character look "right" when speaking in a close-up. Given the issues with the effects I'm a little surprised they didn't go for the method they use for Ithorians - having them mumble something in some alien language and a translator device provide the English language voice.
I actually kind of like the depiction of the New Republic being more realistically flawed (much like the Galactic Republic was before the rise of the Empire) as it makes a lot of sense from real world events. Look at France after the fall of Napoleon or Rome after the assassination of Caesar - they didn't end up with an idealistic state where the opponents of the dictator made everything "perfect"; they tried to pretend that the deposed dictator never existed and go back to living the way they did before his rise... which had some pretty dire consequences.
I really loved this episode! The cameo had me shook and I’m glad that they won without too many casualties, yes most of them haven’t fought much but they were against drunk pirates.
However this episode is making me believe what others had said about how they had to consolidate Rangers of the New Republic into this, but I am glad they are still getting to show us content they think is worth it.
Zebs excellent cameo makes me hope that Disney commits to more CGI characters in the live action shows. Zebb looked so good...I would have preferred a CGI grand inquisitor and CGI cad bane to the abominations that we got :( ...
Not to mention CGI lekku and montrals for Ahsoka.
F&F had saved enough goodwill for me to bite my tongue. The golden payoff is the one you set up very carefully. We now have a solid clan of Mandalorians vs imperials/pirates and dark troopers. A final where Fett&co, Ahsoka, Rangers, miners ( Timothy Olyphant) etc fight alongside Mandalorians would be epic
how about this:
Ep1- Mandó and Grogu land at Bo-Katan’s house (guess he’ll already have a droid?) then they go to Mandalore and all that, Grogu has to go back and get Bo to save Mando… the episode ends with Bo-Katan seeing the Mythasaur.
Ep2- Mando/Grogu/Bo-Katan fight some TIE Fighters, her castle is destroyed, and they jump to hyperspace. cut to the Mando covert doing the helmet ceremony with the youngling, and they’re attacked by monsters. Mando saves the day, but the youngling is captured, and Bo-Katan leads the war party to save him, and is accepted into the clan.
Ep3- pirates attack Nevarro, they ask Teva for help, then he goes to Coruscant and the Dr. Pershing stuff can play out… ending with Teva going to the Mando planet to get their help for Nevarro.
…I’m not quite happy with the third episode, but my general feeling is that this season has had a lot of wheel spinning and time wasting, and could be much more concise 🤷🏻♂️
This is the Way.
I’m with Alan Ng of Film Threat on this one…there’s no appeal to the mythos.
The overarching theme seems to now be shifting to what the fate of the Mandalorians will be. That’s not what the show started out being. It was about one of the few remaining from the creed and how he gets along in the post-Imeprial era. Now it’s heading towards how the creed resurrects itself?
Part of the original appeal of Boba Fett was how much we didn’t know. How he was or maybe have been part of this creed of warriors that no longer existed as a society. How they were long gone.
If anything, how the Mandalorians once were is a more appealing question. Not how they’ll return to prominence.
.... desperately struggling to connect the dots ...desperately is the keyword.
THIS IS THE WAY!! This week's episode was much better than the previous two weeks'. I feel that they're finally getting back on track. I am super stoked for the next episode! : - )
I'm betting that Gideon was taken by another imperial higher up on the chain, and the beskar was planted there to make it look like Mandalorians did it. Or maybe it's a fragment from new dark trooper armor if dark troopers broke him out... Either way, I think it's tied to those imperial Tie Fighters that attacked Bo's home, they couldn't be Gideon's, since he lost all his forces when he was captured, but they probably belong to the one from the remnant that he's working with/for. That's my guess.
Perhaps it's out of left field, but I think Grogru 's whole purpose is as the beast gentler. Starting with the Mudhorn, then the Book of Bobba Fett creature, then the Mythosaur. I think his presence is what called the Mythosaur, and since he wasn't with Mando and Bo, it left uninterested. Grogru has shown that his presence can awaken or coral animals, both terrifyingly, as with snow crab spider monsters and cutely with space hermit crabs. Also, again, I'm not a Star Wars lore master, but I've heard that Beskar is primarily, originally at least, used to thwart light sabers. Grogru is being kitted out to take a direct stab, most likely from Dark Saber, and live, and do his flip jump and defeat his challenger. I think they kill off Din Jarin, sadly. What's his name wants off show supposedly for awhile now. Just my thought, def could be wrong.