Druids and Zoroastrians are ancient often ancient religions that are more attuned to nature and the elements than modern religions will get a bad rep despite being chill
@@DM5550Z could be. I don’t know anything about it. But Zoroastrianism is a much older religion that is unrelated to Manicheanism. Zoroastrianism shows up in the 6th century BC and Manicheanism spun off of Christianity around the 3rd century AD IIRC. I wanna say the Manicheans were Gnostic, but I really don’t know.
Cult comes from the latin word Cultus. Cultus just means a group which follows a religious faith. The modern definition is something completely different. It’s more accurate to the original word to use the term extremist cult or something along those lines. That being said, heavens gate was an extremist cult.
Zoroastrianism, Manichaeism, and Druids are real religions with real followers. Grouping them with literal cults is disrespectful and academically inappropriate.
I saw the thumbnail and came to ask about these specific religions. Specially wondering how they’re controversial? They’re recognized actual religions. I believe history tells us they are.
@ Because the church decided they were heresies lol. Even thiugh manichaeism is a separate religion it was deemed a heresy, idk why Zoroastrianism is here though
[sigh] ok, there’s nothing controversial about Zoroastrianism. Their endogamy was forced on them after the Muslim conquest, and India was willing to allow them to relocate there so long as they didn’t try to convert people. They’re also not amazingly old as religions go. Hinduism and Jainism are considerably older, for instance. They did have an influence on Judaism definitely, but the level of direct influence on Christianity is pretty low, and their level of influence on Islam is probable, but also relatively limited. The level of Monotheism in Zoroastrianism has waxed and waned over time. Technically they’re bitheist, but being surrounded by a much larger monotheist religion for over a thousand years has caused them to de-emphasize that
Zoroastrianism,Hinduism, and Jainism have aspects of Proto-Vedic indo-aryan religions. They are VERY distant cousins. Example: Mitanni-Hurrian civilizations
@ They are, yes, true, but recognizably Hindu religious elements easily go back 5000 years, whereas Zoroastrianism only dates back around 2600 or 2700 years, as far as we can tell. Emphasis on the “Distant” part of distant cousins
One of Heaven’s Gate’s more prominent members was Tom Nichols, whose sister was Nichelle Nichols- forever known as Lieutenant Uhura of “Star Trek”! This connection may have led to their beliefs in spaceships and the like. Nichelle said that she was stunned by Tom’s involvement with the cult as she and their family had no contact with him for over 20 years! Tom was said to have been one of the victims of the cult’s mass suicide in 1997.
Controversial opinion but I'd say compared to Islam and Christianity, these religions aren't too bad, as both of them have contributed to wars and discrimination, and went to questionable levels to get people to join their religious practices
I can't speak to all the other faiths in the list but putting druidry and Zoroastrianism in the same video as Heaven's Gate isn't cool. And I'm not a member of either btw. I'm a Hellenist 🏛️
"Why did you put my preferred minority religion on the SAME list as all these CULTS?" People need to chill. If you had made a list of the most controversial people in 1967 it would have likely contained Ronald Reagan, Indira Gandhi, George Lincoln Rockwell, Jim Morrison and Angela Davis... It doesnt make them similar. Controversial isnt synonymous with being bad, it just indicates intense conflicting views on the subject. All religion (and cults) are controversial. If a Major religion dislikes or attacks a smaller religion it can easily be assumed to be controversial to the members of major religion attacking it.
Ushta Te You put Zoroastrianism in same category as heavens gate ? 😂 Zoroastrianism is worlds oldest monotheistic religion Many religions were influenced or copied our beliefs
Manichqeism is being revived; the source of some of the art from this video is from that revival who hired artists to restore thousands of year old fragments. Indeed, it is re emerging. Also vegetarianism is not required in Manichaeism
So much senseless murder and death over slightly different beliefs can you imagine if we were to live together and believe as one people and love each other instead of externinate each other the amount of amazing things we could have created and done...
We should rather blame individuals, peaceful faiths give us our moral framework rather than our untrustworthy minds and governments. Buddhism, Confucianism, and Christianity are all examples of good faiths.
@@whil1599Well about that, it really depends on the denomination and church since some of them have helped governments before. For instance, some German churches have actually supported Nazi's crimes against humanity in the past. Not to mention, the Eastern Orthodox Church in Russia have justified Russia's war and invasion on Ukraine. Not to mention, the MAGA Christian nationalists "prophets" and prosperoty gospel preachers and so on
@@Avaa-vanilla995what? most conflicts of the last two thousand years can be pointed directly at those 3 religions. Don't "girl" someone who's actually asking good questions. It makes you look dumb as fuck.
I read the comments and found it amazing the type of negative comments or/and so long as their community was not seen wrongly. Such groups will never change. Thanks for the posting and touching on the subjects covered it would be amazing if no injustice wasn't done. Can't cover the whole but only the parts/fractions.
...There's literally nothing controversial about Zoroastrianism? Especially considering the influence and similarities with the three main religions nowadays. Putting this in with genuine cults is actually kind of controversial in an ironic manner.
Trees do not require People to Believe in their Lifeform's Superiority which causes them to be Superior. I converted to Druidism when I came upon a Kuragane Mochi Japanese Holly Tree in Hiroshima Japan that had Grown Back after being Burnt flat to the Ground by the Atomic Bomb. One has to have Total Reverence for a Lifeform that can Survive being Atomic Bombed.
Zoroastrianism influencing Judaism is an outdated view. Thus used to be held because of some teachings and prophecies that both had and the earliest accounts came from Zoroastrianism, however thus has now been disproven as these teaching were found in Judaism religious documents dating between 100-150 years before Zoroastrianism was founded. So if there was copying done or influence given it would have been Zoroastrinism copying or being influenced by Judaism .
@rogsiel christians were savages to literally any non-christians they cam across. just look at northern europe, south america, north america or africa lol.
WTF is Zoroastrianism here? What's controversial about them? Like, I get that the Cathars were viewed as controversial during their time, but they weren't some kind of crazy cult like some of the others featured here, they just diverged from mainstream Christianity during a time period where doing that got you killed. To the best of my knowledge, they weren't actively hurting anybody, but were unjustly persecuted anyway. As for Druidry, the only controversies I'm aware of there are the fact that it's practices had to be reconstructed, and thus the modern form isn't exactly the same as the original form, and the fact that the original form _allegedly_ sacrificed people according to Christian who were actively trying to villinize them. Both of which can be said about pretty much all Neo-Pagan religions, so I don't get why you singled them out. Regarding, it seems pretty distasteful to plop them into the same category as literal cults...
what the heck are you taking about muslims forcing non-muslims to convert and heavy taxes you clearly wrong here. I loved your videos man but.........now.
Jizya is a tax paid by non-Muslims who live in a Muslim state as part of a centuries-old contract called a dhimma. The dhimma contract protects non-Muslims under Islamic law, but in exchange, they must pay the jizya. If a non-Muslim doesn't pay the jizya, Islamic law states that they may be killed or enslaved. . Here's the definition of Forced Conversion: Forced conversion is the adoption of a religion or irreligion under duress. Someone who has been forced to convert to a different religion or irreligion may continue, covertly, to adhere to the beliefs and practices which were originally held, while outwardly behaving as a convert. Crypto-Jews, Crypto-Christians, Crypto-Muslims and Crypto-Pagans are historical examples of the latter. Islam is only out here to create fear, from a dictation from a 40 year old, Muhhamed with his time in a cave with Shaitan. So, for Iranians after the fall of Sasanian empire most just took up being Crypto-Zorastrian. If they got found practicing in their own homeland of Iran, then laws of Islam's Shaitan and his words spoken to Muhammad comes through the body of the Islamic, and just like Pontius Pilate did to Jesus, the Islamic fundamentalist becomes a limb of Satan. Then we come to Women and what Islam did to Women just by causing FGM. The FGM origins make the African , Southeast Asia, Middle East. Makes this another fact that Muhammad comes from Shaitan. How many slaves did Muhammad have?. The Muslim slave trade from Africa seems to have enslaved roughly similar numbers (estimates vary between 11 and 14 million Africans) looks like Islam be following a non Islamic practice of FGM. This FGM act will put Women at risk of HPV, Cyst, and Cancer. Over 230 million women and girls worldwide: 144 million in Africa, 80 million in Asia, 6 million in Middle East, and 1-2 million in other parts of the world (as of 2024). Nigeria accounts for 25% of cases of Female genital mutilation (FGM) worldwide, with increased incidence of cervical cancer.
It's his voice, but he's reading AI generated paragraphs. So it still sounds fake even with a real person reading it. AI writing is completely devoid of emotion or cadence.
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Heavens Gate, and Scientology are both are Religious Cults.
Include Jehovah Witnesses, LDS Church and WestBoro Baptist Church on part 2.
Still wondering why you'd put zoroastrianism in the video, though.
The first two religions seemed like the outliers compared to the other ones.
Why do you put Zoroastrianism and Manichaeism on the same level with the heavens gate?
I'm Zoroastrian
And just posted same 😂
@ From iran or india?
@@DM5550Z kurdistan
@@joebidet2050your name is hilarious and accurate.
It's an overview, a survey of cults.
Druids and Zoroastrians are ancient often ancient religions that are more attuned to nature and the elements than modern religions will get a bad rep despite being chill
A lot of early religions apparently treated nature as God's, before later ones places humanoid deities in pantheons.
Zoroastrianism has little to do with nature or nature worship. It was focused more on ethical behavior
@@mahatmarandy5977Manichaeism is more about nature
@@DM5550Z could be. I don’t know anything about it. But Zoroastrianism is a much older religion that is unrelated to Manicheanism. Zoroastrianism shows up in the 6th century BC and Manicheanism spun off of Christianity around the 3rd century AD IIRC. I wanna say the Manicheans were Gnostic, but I really don’t know.
They’re all demonic.
Heaven's gate was a religious cult, not a religion
Cult is another word for high control religion
Not all cults are religious. There are many political cults for example.
As the previous commenters said, there are many kinds of cults, not just religious
Cult comes from the latin word Cultus. Cultus just means a group which follows a religious faith. The modern definition is something completely different. It’s more accurate to the original word to use the term extremist cult or something along those lines. That being said, heavens gate was an extremist cult.
Cult is the religion the west pretend to dislike because of peer pressure but is eager to use whenever they can control the cultists.
Zoroastrianism, Manichaeism, and Druids are real religions with real followers. Grouping them with literal cults is disrespectful and academically inappropriate.
Well guess what? I just made up a new religion that can be practiced along anything else, where the sole goal is making fun of you.
Its screwed up
I agree
I saw the thumbnail and came to ask about these specific religions. Specially wondering how they’re controversial? They’re recognized actual religions. I believe history tells us they are.
@ Because the church decided they were heresies lol. Even thiugh manichaeism is a separate religion it was deemed a heresy, idk why Zoroastrianism is here though
chill on the uploads your spoiling us 😭 🙏
[sigh] ok, there’s nothing controversial about Zoroastrianism. Their endogamy was forced on them after the Muslim conquest, and India was willing to allow them to relocate there so long as they didn’t try to convert people. They’re also not amazingly old as religions go. Hinduism and Jainism are considerably older, for instance. They did have an influence on Judaism definitely, but the level of direct influence on Christianity is pretty low, and their level of influence on Islam is probable, but also relatively limited.
The level of Monotheism in Zoroastrianism has waxed and waned over time. Technically they’re bitheist, but being surrounded by a much larger monotheist religion for over a thousand years has caused them to de-emphasize that
ok nerd
@@Big_Honker shut it.
@@Big_Honker is that supposed to be a praise?
Zoroastrianism,Hinduism, and Jainism have aspects of Proto-Vedic indo-aryan religions.
They are VERY distant cousins.
Example: Mitanni-Hurrian civilizations
@ They are, yes, true, but recognizably Hindu religious elements easily go back 5000 years, whereas Zoroastrianism only dates back around 2600 or 2700 years, as far as we can tell. Emphasis on the “Distant” part of distant cousins
One of Heaven’s Gate’s more prominent members was Tom Nichols, whose sister was Nichelle Nichols- forever known as Lieutenant Uhura of “Star Trek”! This connection may have led to their beliefs in spaceships and the like. Nichelle said that she was stunned by Tom’s involvement with the cult as she and their family had no contact with him for over 20 years! Tom was said to have been one of the victims of the cult’s mass suicide in 1997.
i love your upload schedule
Leave it to the Roman’s to accuse pagans for sacrificing to their gods lol
Controversial opinion but I'd say compared to Islam and Christianity, these religions aren't too bad, as both of them have contributed to wars and discrimination, and went to questionable levels to get people to join their religious practices
OF COURSE NO HATE TO MUSLIMS OR CHRISTIANS THIS IS JUST MY OPINION OF THE RELIGION AS A WHOLE NOT THE INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE
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I can't speak to all the other faiths in the list but putting druidry and Zoroastrianism in the same video as Heaven's Gate isn't cool. And I'm not a member of either btw. I'm a Hellenist 🏛️
I agree! (I'm Christian for what it's worth, but I have a lot of Pagan friends - one of which _does_ practice Druidry...)
Subscribed just for how quickly you got into the information contained in the video.
You should unsubscribe because he didn't put islam on the video
i like how bro's slowly making the time between uploads shorter and shorter. can't wait for it to be 1 hour between uploads
Scientology also uses Highly Aggressive Proselytizing and Recruitment Practices!
South Park taught me Scientology
Apparently Chef was a Scientologist and he wasn’t happy about that episode
Here, before this channel becomes one of the biggest on the site. Keep up the great work 🙏
"Why did you put my preferred minority religion on the SAME list as all these CULTS?"
People need to chill.
If you had made a list of the most controversial people in 1967 it would have likely contained Ronald Reagan, Indira Gandhi, George Lincoln Rockwell, Jim Morrison and Angela Davis... It doesnt make them similar.
Controversial isnt synonymous with being bad, it just indicates intense conflicting views on the subject. All religion (and cults) are controversial. If a Major religion dislikes or attacks a smaller religion it can easily be assumed to be controversial to the members of major religion attacking it.
Exactly
It's hard for zorastrianism and druidry to be controversial when most people aren't even aware they exist
@@jaydonehistorythen why didn't you put islam in this video 😂
Ushta Te
You put Zoroastrianism in same category as heavens gate ? 😂
Zoroastrianism is worlds oldest monotheistic religion
Many religions were influenced or copied our beliefs
Dualistic
Exactly!
Great UA-cam Channel!
Manichqeism is being revived; the source of some of the art from this video is from that revival who hired artists to restore thousands of year old fragments. Indeed, it is re emerging. Also vegetarianism is not required in Manichaeism
Nope... just maximum disconnect from the source of your food... 😒
mormons are like Utah's scientologists
LDS is , at least *half* Christian
LDS is , at least *half* Christian
@@Moder_20 they’re polytheists that hate black people and love sexism
“The most controversial 24 minute video”
So much senseless murder and death over slightly different beliefs can you imagine if we were to live together and believe as one people and love each other instead of externinate each other the amount of amazing things we could have created and done...
It had to be that way 👉
The highest body counts came from secular wars. Blaming religion is futile.
We should rather blame individuals, peaceful faiths give us our moral framework rather than our untrustworthy minds and governments. Buddhism, Confucianism, and Christianity are all examples of good faiths.
@@whil1599 will are you on drugs
@@whil1599Well about that, it really depends on the denomination and church since some of them have helped governments before.
For instance, some German churches have actually supported Nazi's crimes against humanity in the past. Not to mention, the Eastern Orthodox Church in Russia have justified Russia's war and invasion on Ukraine. Not to mention, the MAGA Christian nationalists "prophets" and prosperoty gospel preachers and so on
Putting cults to the same level as the older religions are really disrespectful not gonna lie
Heavens gate sounds like a dark souls monster
97 oh oh oh oh oh , the mass s*icide
Perfect thing to watch before work.
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Have a great day
Id never heard of some of these! WOW
Where is Christianity, Islam and Judaism?
Girl...
@@Avaa-vanilla995what? most conflicts of the last two thousand years can be pointed directly at those 3 religions. Don't "girl" someone who's actually asking good questions. It makes you look dumb as fuck.
Rent free in your mind
@@BESTINTHEWORLD0007 They're all pedo groups.
Even as a Christian, that wold have taken 90 minutes, at best
You forgot the Church of Euthanasia.
I read the comments and found it amazing the type of negative comments or/and so long as their community was not seen wrongly. Such groups will never change. Thanks for the posting and touching on the subjects covered it would be amazing if no injustice wasn't done. Can't cover the whole but only the parts/fractions.
Keep it up to bro i learned a lot from you vids
Thank you
Eh, the title says "controversial". He's not putting them on the same level in terms of legitimacy or worthiness.
Ahura Mazda is who the car gets its name.
...There's literally nothing controversial about Zoroastrianism? Especially considering the influence and similarities with the three main religions nowadays. Putting this in with genuine cults is actually kind of controversial in an ironic manner.
YAY NEW VIDEO, IM FEASTING
Why are some of these religions, older than almost all of the popular ones, rated as controversial alongside cults?
Trees do not require People to Believe in their Lifeform's Superiority which causes them to be Superior.
I converted to Druidism when I came upon a Kuragane Mochi Japanese Holly Tree in Hiroshima Japan that had Grown Back after being Burnt flat to the Ground by the Atomic Bomb. One has to have Total Reverence for a Lifeform that can Survive being Atomic Bombed.
Same with cockroaches.
@@a-man3179 roaches can survive radiation, not being ripped apart by the blast. But all life is deserving of respect, yes.
we back
18:43 the lil uzi and heaven’s gate beef is so weird 😭
You should include here Iglesia ni Cristo lmao
Why did you put actual religion next to literal cult? that is kiiiiind of bad
Zoroastrianism influencing Judaism is an outdated view. Thus used to be held because of some teachings and prophecies that both had and the earliest accounts came from Zoroastrianism, however thus has now been disproven as these teaching were found in Judaism religious documents dating between 100-150 years before Zoroastrianism was founded. So if there was copying done or influence given it would have been Zoroastrinism copying or being influenced by Judaism .
A common Jaydone w
This video sounds like it is being narrated by two people.
Why isn't Islam on here
Because this kid doesn't want psycho people that still live in cave man times coming after him
@@claytonjones8358 True. Only the parts about muslim treatment of Zoroastrianists is enough. lol
@rogsiel christians were savages to literally any non-christians they cam across. just look at northern europe, south america, north america or africa lol.
@@glowiedetectorWhy did you have the urge to bring up Christianity? This was about Islam.
You forgot Happy Science and Aum Shinryko
You left out Sonichu
Was a member of the atheist religion for almost 35 years
As a former atheist myself, atheism isn't a religion. It's the lack of religion. It's "I haven't been convinced".
Yea this guy is impossible to slow down
Raelism sounds a lot like Hedonsim.
Damn…u forgot Children of God
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Pastafarianism?
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P.T. Barnum was right.
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WTF is Zoroastrianism here? What's controversial about them? Like, I get that the Cathars were viewed as controversial during their time, but they weren't some kind of crazy cult like some of the others featured here, they just diverged from mainstream Christianity during a time period where doing that got you killed. To the best of my knowledge, they weren't actively hurting anybody, but were unjustly persecuted anyway. As for Druidry, the only controversies I'm aware of there are the fact that it's practices had to be reconstructed, and thus the modern form isn't exactly the same as the original form, and the fact that the original form _allegedly_ sacrificed people according to Christian who were actively trying to villinize them. Both of which can be said about pretty much all Neo-Pagan religions, so I don't get why you singled them out. Regarding, it seems pretty distasteful to plop them into the same category as literal cults...
You forgot the jews
From small minds come small comments --- like yours.
@michaelberes6660 Look at this angry virgin 😂
Grow up kiddo
Muslims should be there
Your ai voice mispronounces lots of things.
Mormonism?!
All hail Xenu!!!
Catholics and Muslims were afraid of druids because they saw them as sorcerers from the Celtic culture, haha you guys are afraid of Harry Potter 🤣
Christianity... So controversial and disgusting! Why is this not on the list?
Because its not
Because it's not that controversial compared to some religions on this list, and besides, if truth disgusts you, that's unfortunate.
To you its controversial not all Christians are bad don't be stereotypical
f.b.e
Christianity should be on this list ,the biggest disease ever
Not all Christians are bad don't be stereotypical 😂
islam is buddy
what the heck are you taking about muslims forcing non-muslims to convert and heavy taxes you clearly wrong here. I loved your videos man but.........now.
Muslims never forced anyone to accept islam.
please study a bit more about islam before speaking about the relegion. Thanks
Jizya is a tax paid by non-Muslims who live in a Muslim state as part of a centuries-old contract called a dhimma. The dhimma contract protects non-Muslims under Islamic law, but in exchange, they must pay the jizya. If a non-Muslim doesn't pay the jizya, Islamic law states that they may be killed or enslaved.
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Here's the definition of Forced Conversion: Forced conversion is the adoption of a religion or irreligion under duress. Someone who has been forced to convert to a different religion or irreligion may continue, covertly, to adhere to the beliefs and practices which were originally held, while outwardly behaving as a convert. Crypto-Jews, Crypto-Christians, Crypto-Muslims and Crypto-Pagans are historical examples of the latter.
Islam is only out here to create fear, from a dictation from a 40 year old, Muhhamed with his time in a cave with Shaitan.
So, for Iranians after the fall of Sasanian empire most just took up being Crypto-Zorastrian. If they got found practicing in their own homeland of Iran, then laws of Islam's Shaitan and his words spoken to Muhammad comes through the body of the Islamic, and just like Pontius Pilate did to Jesus, the Islamic fundamentalist becomes a limb of Satan.
Then we come to Women and what Islam did to Women just by causing FGM.
The FGM origins make the African , Southeast Asia, Middle East.
Makes this another fact that Muhammad comes from Shaitan.
How many slaves did Muhammad have?.
The Muslim slave trade from Africa seems to have enslaved roughly similar numbers (estimates vary between 11 and 14 million Africans) looks like Islam be following a non Islamic practice of FGM.
This FGM act will put Women at risk of HPV, Cyst, and Cancer. Over 230 million women and girls worldwide: 144 million in Africa, 80 million in Asia, 6 million in Middle East, and 1-2 million in other parts of the world (as of 2024). Nigeria accounts for 25% of cases of Female genital mutilation (FGM) worldwide, with increased incidence of cervical cancer.
They did force buddy. Religion of peace 😂
Can the AI voice please speak in whole sentences…
This is my real voice💀
@@jaydonehistoryyeah idk if that was a compliment or an insult 😂😭
@@jaydonehistory Lmaoo
That's his real voice
It's his voice, but he's reading AI generated paragraphs. So it still sounds fake even with a real person reading it. AI writing is completely devoid of emotion or cadence.
islam should be there