Road to reach 3600MHz: Translate your 3200MHz timings to 3600MHz after you found tight ones. BUT also add +1 to tCL and adjust the other timings correspondingly for a safety margin. Use CAD drive strength 40-24-24-24 Worked for Samsung B-die and Hynix CJR Cheers
Hi, what happened to the crucial ballixtics part 3? I am looking to purchase this on my laptop. I'm having a hard time understanding the performance gains, is it big at higher clocks for games?
Yeah, will take some more time. Want to analyze different CPU options for the Apex15 first :) I plan to talk about possible noise dampening solutions, too. Do you have any wishes what I can investigate concerning noise? Name your ideas and I will consider to take them in :)
@@TechModLab It would be very useful to see how the noise changes in relation to different fan profiles and undervolting choices. Since you got your hands on all the CPUs now, maybe the optimal settings for each of them in your opinion can be given, as a reference for potential customers and even for XMG itself to consider for later updates.
After 3 month of stability testing, I like to share my experiences here. You might be able to pass all the stress test with low soc like 1.0v and thinking that your system is stable. However, you might need to check your event viewer and take a look that either you are constantly getting WHEA logger warning or not. I could pass all the stress test(p95, hci, occt, karhu and tm5) with 1800mhz fclk with 3600mhz ram at 1.0v soc. However I was getting WHEA logger warnings every few days/hours. I ignored it last time since my computer didn't crash and just running smooth. Few weeks later and boom! my computer ran into BSOD randomly. After seeking info from internet I was told that my fclk is not stable and what I have to do is to rise my soc voltage. I tried to rise my soc voltage from 1.0 to 1.025v and 1.05v but I was still getting those WHEA logger warning. Finally, those warning stop appearing after setting my soc voltage to 1.075v. In conclusion, check your event viewer if you are running fclk 1800mhz with low soc voltage like 1.0/1.025v since instability of fclk seems to be undetectable from those stress tests and it will take a long time to show you the sign of instability just like what happened in my case (crashed after 2+ weeks of testing).
Nice :) thanks for the very helpful info! Another observation I made is that you should also alter the Vddg voltage to be at least 50mV, better 60mV less than VSoC. Vddg is generated from VSoC and when Vddg is targeted to be too close to VSoC the system can be unstable. I fortunately came across that info in some memory OC posts. Definitely helpful to find stable memory settings.
Großartig! Jetzt kann ich mal mit dem Raten aufhören und die Sache systematisch angehen. Die Regeln sind klasse erklärt! Da muss ich morgen gleich mal wieder ran an die Dies. Mal gucken, ob ich mal versuche auf 3600 MHz zu kommen. Nach meiner Tunerei habe ich den Rechner mal komplett abkühlen lassen. CB lag fast bei 7500 Punkten. Mit Standard PPT 88w. Hat er durchgehalten. Welchen Benchmark hast Du für die fps genommen? Gibt’s den so, oder muss man den kaufen? Danke für die Klasse Arbeit! 👍🏻
du meinst bei SOTTR? Garkeinen. Das ist aber ganz einfach :) Der Benchmark gibt dir die berechneten Frames aus (links neben den FPS Werten) und der Benchmark läuft genau 157 Sekunden. Teilt man die Frames durch die 157s bekommt man Gleitkomma-FPS. Macht der originale ja leider nicht!
Hallo Du! Lies mir ja keine Ruhe, daher habe ich die Samsungs double-rank JEDEC 3200 mit 22-22-22-22-20 und 52-74 mit TRFC 560 auf folgende Profile bekommen (Dank Deines MEGA-Leitfadens!): 3200 MHz: 16-17-17-17-14 mit 33-53 und TRFC 467 (!) 3600 MHz: 18-19-19-19-16 mit 40-63 und TRFC 529 (!) Also dass die Smasunf D-Dies oben raus schlecht werden, kann ich nciht finden. Bin besonders auch von den TRFC-Werten beeindruckt. Herzlichen Dank Dir! Jetzt muss ich noch benchmarken. ;-) Viele Grüße!
Hey, incredible! Those are really speedy timings! :) Happy to hear it worked out for you. German: Hey, der Wahnsinn! Das sind richtig flotte Werte! :) Freut mich dass es so gut funktioniert.
3DAndStuff, mache ich. Bei der 3200er musste zB auf. 56-36 zurück. Also genau gem. Faustformel. Der 3600-Modus frisst 5W Leistung mehr ggü. 3200. Entsprechend dürften auch die Module wärmer werden. Im CB20 scheint der 3200er sogar etwas mehr zu bringen als 3600. Da kommt es ja auf jedes Watt Rechenleistung an. Die FPS Unterschiede im Gaming dürften auch nicht mehr so hoch sein. Insofern bin ich sehr am Überlegen, ob ich das Apex nicht in dem stabileren 3200er laufen lasse. Die Timings sind ja für einen Laptop DDR4 ganz ordentlich.
I have the same Laptop Did you experience any downsides from the overclocked memory? Did you run memory tests over a longer period e.g. over night to see if you have any fails? I was just wondering if running my Corsair Vengeance 2666 18-19-19 at 3200 17-18-17 could damage it in the long run, the entire system should not have issues imo since it can use the 3200MHz
Shame there's no voltage adjustment for DRAM yet, it'd be fantastic be able to push 1.45V-1.5V on Samsung B-die SODIMM modules and possibly hit 3800 at reasonable timings to push 1900IF which would max out the potential
True! But I think 1.35V should be the limit. Don't get me wrong, I like the performance hit which would be possible, but at 1.2V (it's 1.25V in fact, measured yesterday) the memory modules already hit 70°C easily. The memory sticks are naked, they have no heatsink and there is no real space for a heatsink. And the ventilation is quite bad. For more than 1.35V you even need ventilation in desktop computers, and desktop DIMMs got heatsinks.
That is true and understandable, would be nice either way to have more voltage to play with to push the system to the limits though, I ordered myself a 3600 + 2070 max-p apex 15 lately, can't wait to play with it.
@@TechModLab I just saw on part 1 that you'll be going through GPU OC, noise and temps in part 3 and was just saying I'm very much looking forward to that - whenever that may be :) keep up the awesome work!
Nice video! I've been struggling on what RAM to order for the Core 17. Since it uses the 4800H chip, Ryzen Master is a no go and I'm afraid I'll brick my system if I try to tune my memory. I'll probably go with a 2666MHz 18-19-19 rather than a 3200 MHz 22-22-22 and hope for the better.
3200 22-22-22 is faster than 2666 18-19-19 because of the infinity fabric clock advantage. Go for 3200 CL22 :) What do you mean with the RyzenMaster part? Is it a lot different on the H processors? As long as you can reset your BIOS easily you are fine. Maybe ask XMG support if it's safe in their experience.
Does this work with 3600mhz ram modules in Apex 15? What is the highest mhz ram I can use to get the laptop to work at? Finally, how much fps would increase from a 2666mhz module to a 3200mhz volume? I really appreciate these detailed videos and the effort that is being put into these! Thanks again!
Now that it has been a while, how are the temperatures and noise? Is it bearable at all? Ive heard new bios updates have made it better, is that true? Ill take the 3950x variant if all is well :-). Thanks for the prompt response!
@@cyrusgabriel6838 Yes it's better now, but the real noisy fan is the GPU one anway. If you play games it will get quite loud, if CPU-intense rendering only it's okay.
@@cyrusgabriel6838 Little update: newest BIOS 1.07.07 and EC firmware 1.07.04 made the noise levels way better. But only in "Entertainment" mode. Performance mode is made to be maxed out and so is the noise. If you are a gamer, stick with 3600 and 3700X. The 3950X uses around 15W more package power all the time and is getting way hotter, even in idle. If you are a creator, then yes, go for it, BUT make sure you are not concerned about loud fans, even for normal desktop workloads. The only way to calm down the 3950X is Manual OC. Got good results with 3.2GHz at 0.875V. 3600, 3700X: noise and thermals are good 3950X: noticeable louder fans, thermals can get into the 90°C+ when CPU and GPU is loaded. Followup CPU comparison / buyers guide is following next. Hope I can get it done in less than 2 weeks. Test will contain 3600, 3700X, 3800X, 3900, 3900X, 3950X. Cheers
usually that's safe to your hardware yes. Otherwise this option would not be visible. It may not be stable with your memory kit. In this case you need to reset the BIOS/UEFI as you said. Easy as that :)
Well, I'm using 64gb. Video setup was helpful, but... Some settings do not fit my RAM. o my...I think I should raise the 'CPU on die termination' to 80 ohms
64GB RAM should use very different ICs (Dies) than the 8GB and 16GB models. I guess you got 16gbit ICs. Typically they need more tRFC and looser timings.
Gibt es nicht bitte noch eine deutsche Version dieses Videos? Ich bin irgendwie immer nur bei "Bahnhof" "Bahnhof" "Bahnhof", Tschldigung, dass ich englisch-doof bin.
@@TechModLab i see that makes sense a lot of the options are unavailable on the 2700 some are marked as "this feature is coming soon" wich is pretty misleading
Did you have issues with any of the memory sticks? I bought a simple Crucial 3200Mhz CL22 32Gb kit (2x16) and can only boot my laptop with just one of the chips installed. If I plug both at the same time, it does not boot. Any tips?
Found some issues myself. I am in talk with XMG at the moment about what's going on. For me it's as follow: 3600: high frequencies (3600MHz+) and tight timings easily possible. 3700X/3800X: high frequencies (3600MHz) and tight timings possible. Bit looser timings. 3950X: impossible to get 2666 CL19 or 3200MHz CL22 stable. 2400MHz CL17 runs fine. Maybe I got a faulty 3950X to test. Wait for the following video and results. Will test 3900(X) too. Maybe it is related to the core count somehow. No proof at the moment. Further tests running...
@@TechModLab Thanks for the reply. In my case, I think I got a defective memory from Crucial (3200 CL22). One chip works well in single channel, while the other doesn't boot (only black screen). So, of course, both in dual channel also won't boot. I'm RMA'ing one chip back to Crucial and let's see if the replacement works well. My CPU is the R3 3100 by the way, so core count won't be a problem :D
@@felipevieira8741 Good ! you mean you have a 3950X with Crucial 3200Mhz CL22 32Gb kit (2x16) ? Did you manage to push it to 3600 Mhz? Did you see a visible gain ?
no. GPU is not a MXM module, it's soldered. You have to buy the upgraded version then. But no-one knows when rtx 30 is coming to notebooks. Can take several months, maybe half a year, or more.
Hi Li sasu shouldn't it be su Lisa? Did you get that new micron rev b 16gbit memory in sodimm format? Would be interesting to see how it goes at low voltage. 8gbit dual rank should have benefits in terms of performance for the same timings though
No performance increase in CineBench whatsoever. Cinebench does not rely on memory speeds too much, but other production applications do. Expect benefits in more complex render scenes and in video editing. By the way, this is video 2 of 2. Watch part 1 and you will see performance comparisons.
Thanks for your help. I have 2 x 16GB cjr g.skill ripjaws 3200 18 18 18 1.2V. I have tuned it to 3600 18 20 20. I might be able to squeeze some more improvement still. Here are my settings: imgur.com/gallery/W5CQ2Az - cljdrvstren=40 other drv stren=24 cad bus all=0 and RTTNOM =disalbed rttwr=rzq/3 rttpark=rzq/1
Nice! 3600 Cl18-20-20 is awesome :) You could try to lower your VSoC a little. Maybe to 1.075V, or even 1.050V. But make sure you don't loose performance. Too low VSoC does not crash straight away but introduces some delays. You will typically see that with corona benchmark quite well.
yes but they recommend a specific version with their latest control center version 3.0.. Don't remember exactly. But I think it was my version RM 2.3.0. To be specific I run Ryzen Master version 2.3.0.1591 and it works as far as I can remember. Don't use the Control Center anymore.
@@TechModLab i installed ryzen master then installed the clevo control center v3 ryzem master was working prior to clevo control center now im gonna try and install the newer version hopefully it works this time around
@@TechModLab finally got it working i installed versions 3.02 of CCenter and RM 2.6 and also the chipset driver from XMG all good now it seems the very first version of CC does not work with the latest RM versions
Road to reach 3600MHz:
Translate your 3200MHz timings to 3600MHz after you found tight ones. BUT also add +1 to tCL and adjust the other timings correspondingly for a safety margin.
Use CAD drive strength 40-24-24-24
Worked for Samsung B-die and Hynix CJR
Cheers
Hi, what happened to the crucial ballixtics part 3? I am looking to purchase this on my laptop. I'm having a hard time understanding the performance gains, is it big at higher clocks for games?
After I pressed play on this video, I did not notice that it had passed 25 minutes in a blink of an eye! What a great material! Nice job again 👏🏻!!
thanks for the warming words
Thanks a lot for your work, great presentation! Still looking forward to a review with the fan noise levels of Apex.
Yeah, will take some more time. Want to analyze different CPU options for the Apex15 first :) I plan to talk about possible noise dampening solutions, too.
Do you have any wishes what I can investigate concerning noise? Name your ideas and I will consider to take them in :)
@@TechModLab It would be very useful to see how the noise changes in relation to different fan profiles and undervolting choices. Since you got your hands on all the CPUs now, maybe the optimal settings for each of them in your opinion can be given, as a reference for potential customers and even for XMG itself to consider for later updates.
After 3 month of stability testing, I like to share my experiences here.
You might be able to pass all the stress test with low soc like 1.0v and thinking that your system is stable. However, you might need to check your event viewer and take a look that either you are constantly getting WHEA logger warning or not.
I could pass all the stress test(p95, hci, occt, karhu and tm5) with 1800mhz fclk with 3600mhz ram at 1.0v soc. However I was getting WHEA logger warnings every few days/hours. I ignored it last time since my computer didn't crash and just running smooth. Few weeks later and boom! my computer ran into BSOD randomly. After seeking info from internet I was told that my fclk is not stable and what I have to do is to rise my soc voltage. I tried to rise my soc voltage from 1.0 to 1.025v and 1.05v but I was still getting those WHEA logger warning. Finally, those warning stop appearing after setting my soc voltage to 1.075v.
In conclusion, check your event viewer if you are running fclk 1800mhz with low soc voltage like 1.0/1.025v since instability of fclk seems to be undetectable from those stress tests and it will take a long time to show you the sign of instability just like what happened in my case (crashed after 2+ weeks of testing).
Nice :) thanks for the very helpful info! Another observation I made is that you should also alter the Vddg voltage to be at least 50mV, better 60mV less than VSoC. Vddg is generated from VSoC and when Vddg is targeted to be too close to VSoC the system can be unstable. I fortunately came across that info in some memory OC posts. Definitely helpful to find stable memory settings.
Well these videos should directly be on th APEX15 page AT xmg ;-)
Thank you very much for your effort and time! Great video
Thank you!
crucial ballistix when? excited to get mine soon
Großartig!
Jetzt kann ich mal mit dem Raten aufhören und die Sache systematisch angehen.
Die Regeln sind klasse erklärt! Da muss ich morgen gleich mal wieder ran an die Dies. Mal gucken, ob ich mal versuche auf 3600 MHz zu kommen.
Nach meiner Tunerei habe ich den Rechner mal komplett abkühlen lassen. CB lag fast bei 7500 Punkten. Mit Standard PPT 88w. Hat er durchgehalten.
Welchen Benchmark hast Du für die fps genommen? Gibt’s den so, oder muss man den kaufen?
Danke für die Klasse Arbeit! 👍🏻
du meinst bei SOTTR? Garkeinen. Das ist aber ganz einfach :) Der Benchmark gibt dir die berechneten Frames aus (links neben den FPS Werten) und der Benchmark läuft genau 157 Sekunden. Teilt man die Frames durch die 157s bekommt man Gleitkomma-FPS. Macht der originale ja leider nicht!
Hallo Du!
Lies mir ja keine Ruhe, daher habe ich die Samsungs double-rank JEDEC 3200 mit 22-22-22-22-20 und 52-74 mit TRFC 560 auf folgende Profile bekommen (Dank Deines MEGA-Leitfadens!):
3200 MHz: 16-17-17-17-14 mit 33-53 und TRFC 467 (!)
3600 MHz: 18-19-19-19-16 mit 40-63 und TRFC 529 (!)
Also dass die Smasunf D-Dies oben raus schlecht werden, kann ich nciht finden. Bin besonders auch von den TRFC-Werten beeindruckt.
Herzlichen Dank Dir! Jetzt muss ich noch benchmarken. ;-)
Viele Grüße!
Hey, incredible! Those are really speedy timings! :) Happy to hear it worked out for you.
German:
Hey, der Wahnsinn! Das sind richtig flotte Werte! :) Freut mich dass es so gut funktioniert.
Achso vergiss nicht, memtest machen, mindestens eine Stunde ;) Im Fall eines Fehlers Zähne zusammenbeißen und einen Schritt zurück. Viel Erfolg!
3DAndStuff, mache ich. Bei der 3200er musste zB auf. 56-36 zurück. Also genau gem. Faustformel.
Der 3600-Modus frisst 5W Leistung mehr ggü. 3200. Entsprechend dürften auch die Module wärmer werden.
Im CB20 scheint der 3200er sogar etwas mehr zu bringen als 3600. Da kommt es ja auf jedes Watt Rechenleistung an.
Die FPS Unterschiede im Gaming dürften auch nicht mehr so hoch sein. Insofern bin ich sehr am Überlegen, ob ich das Apex nicht in dem stabileren 3200er laufen lasse. Die Timings sind ja für einen Laptop DDR4 ganz ordentlich.
I have the same Laptop
Did you experience any downsides from the overclocked memory?
Did you run memory tests over a longer period e.g. over night to see if you have any fails?
I was just wondering if running my Corsair Vengeance 2666 18-19-19 at 3200 17-18-17 could damage it in the long run, the entire system should not have issues imo since it can use the 3200MHz
Shame there's no voltage adjustment for DRAM yet, it'd be fantastic be able to push 1.45V-1.5V on Samsung B-die SODIMM modules and possibly hit 3800 at reasonable timings to push 1900IF which would max out the potential
True! But I think 1.35V should be the limit. Don't get me wrong, I like the performance hit which would be possible, but at 1.2V (it's 1.25V in fact, measured yesterday) the memory modules already hit 70°C easily. The memory sticks are naked, they have no heatsink and there is no real space for a heatsink. And the ventilation is quite bad. For more than 1.35V you even need ventilation in desktop computers, and desktop DIMMs got heatsinks.
That is true and understandable, would be nice either way to have more voltage to play with to push the system to the limits though, I ordered myself a 3600 + 2070 max-p apex 15 lately, can't wait to play with it.
Have fun :) Great choice!
@@TechModLab Ended up doing 1800IF + 3600mhz CL20-22-22, not too bad though haven't had a chance to tweak further yet imgur.com/tPMwvCz
Can't wait for you to get to the GPU!!
CPU comparison coming first. What do you want rto know about the GPUs? Maybe I can provide a little preview
@@TechModLab I just saw on part 1 that you'll be going through GPU OC, noise and temps in part 3 and was just saying I'm very much looking forward to that - whenever that may be :) keep up the awesome work!
@@feliesa91 ah ok :) well let's see!
Nice video! I've been struggling on what RAM to order for the Core 17. Since it uses the 4800H chip, Ryzen Master is a no go and I'm afraid I'll brick my system if I try to tune my memory. I'll probably go with a 2666MHz 18-19-19 rather than a 3200 MHz 22-22-22 and hope for the better.
3200 22-22-22 is faster than 2666 18-19-19 because of the infinity fabric clock advantage. Go for 3200 CL22 :) What do you mean with the RyzenMaster part? Is it a lot different on the H processors? As long as you can reset your BIOS easily you are fine. Maybe ask XMG support if it's safe in their experience.
@@TechModLab Thanks for the reply! Ryzen Master doesn't work on the H series I believe.
not working some thing might have been changed...i alsoways get the "Wron cpu" message...i guess my bios is ultra locked?
Does this work with 3600mhz ram modules in Apex 15? What is the highest mhz ram I can use to get the laptop to work at?
Finally, how much fps would increase from a 2666mhz module to a 3200mhz volume?
I really appreciate these detailed videos and the effort that is being put into these! Thanks again!
This video is part 2. Check out part 1 :)
You will find your answers.
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And yes, 3600MHz are no problem at all
Now that it has been a while, how are the temperatures and noise? Is it bearable at all? Ive heard new bios updates have made it better, is that true? Ill take the 3950x variant if all is well :-).
Thanks for the prompt response!
@@cyrusgabriel6838 Yes it's better now, but the real noisy fan is the GPU one anway. If you play games it will get quite loud, if CPU-intense rendering only it's okay.
@@cyrusgabriel6838 Little update: newest BIOS 1.07.07 and EC firmware 1.07.04 made the noise levels way better. But only in "Entertainment" mode. Performance mode is made to be maxed out and so is the noise.
If you are a gamer, stick with 3600 and 3700X. The 3950X uses around 15W more package power all the time and is getting way hotter, even in idle. If you are a creator, then yes, go for it, BUT make sure you are not concerned about loud fans, even for normal desktop workloads. The only way to calm down the 3950X is Manual OC. Got good results with 3.2GHz at 0.875V.
3600, 3700X: noise and thermals are good
3950X: noticeable louder fans, thermals can get into the 90°C+ when CPU and GPU is loaded.
Followup CPU comparison / buyers guide is following next. Hope I can get it done in less than 2 weeks. Test will contain 3600, 3700X, 3800X, 3900, 3900X, 3950X.
Cheers
My intel laptop has option to adjust memory voltage. Should i try to set it to 1.35v? Is it safe? Is ıt risky? Can ram broke or just reset bios again?
usually that's safe to your hardware yes. Otherwise this option would not be visible. It may not be stable with your memory kit. In this case you need to reset the BIOS/UEFI as you said. Easy as that :)
Well, I'm using 64gb.
Video setup was helpful, but...
Some settings do not fit my RAM.
o my...I think I should raise the 'CPU on die termination' to 80 ohms
64GB RAM should use very different ICs (Dies) than the 8GB and 16GB models. I guess you got 16gbit ICs. Typically they need more tRFC and looser timings.
Gibt es nicht bitte noch eine deutsche Version dieses Videos? Ich bin irgendwie immer nur bei "Bahnhof" "Bahnhof" "Bahnhof", Tschldigung, dass ich englisch-doof bin.
why do the options in your ryzen master look diferent to the ones on mine? im using a ryzen 2700 as of now
That could be the reason. It's different on the 2nd and 3rd gen.
@@TechModLab i see that makes sense a lot of the options are unavailable on the 2700
some are marked as "this feature is coming soon" wich is pretty misleading
Did you have issues with any of the memory sticks? I bought a simple Crucial 3200Mhz CL22 32Gb kit (2x16) and can only boot my laptop with just one of the chips installed. If I plug both at the same time, it does not boot. Any tips?
Found some issues myself. I am in talk with XMG at the moment about what's going on. For me it's as follow:
3600: high frequencies (3600MHz+) and tight timings easily possible.
3700X/3800X: high frequencies (3600MHz) and tight timings possible. Bit looser timings.
3950X: impossible to get 2666 CL19 or 3200MHz CL22 stable. 2400MHz CL17 runs fine.
Maybe I got a faulty 3950X to test. Wait for the following video and results. Will test 3900(X) too.
Maybe it is related to the core count somehow. No proof at the moment. Further tests running...
@@TechModLab Thanks for the reply. In my case, I think I got a defective memory from Crucial (3200 CL22). One chip works well in single channel, while the other doesn't boot (only black screen). So, of course, both in dual channel also won't boot. I'm RMA'ing one chip back to Crucial and let's see if the replacement works well. My CPU is the R3 3100 by the way, so core count won't be a problem :D
Hi there ! Was your 3950x faulty ? I ordered some 3200 GHz ram to see how it fares.
@@yannbhogal4835 no issues with my CPU, the problem was actually on the RAM. Crucial replaced those for me and now all is working fine.
@@felipevieira8741 Good ! you mean you have a 3950X with Crucial 3200Mhz CL22 32Gb kit (2x16) ? Did you manage to push it to 3600 Mhz?
Did you see a visible gain ?
will this upgrade for rtx 3000 series gpu ??????
no. GPU is not a MXM module, it's soldered. You have to buy the upgraded version then. But no-one knows when rtx 30 is coming to notebooks. Can take several months, maybe half a year, or more.
Excuse me, GeIL - Micron Technology - CL22-22-22 D4-3200 - 16 Gb / 1 die // what is 1 Die?
Could mean 16Gbit per die interface. There are 8gbit and 16gbit memory dies. 16gbit is more modern.
Or it's a typo and it does mean "1 rank"
@@TechModLab Can't we check the DIE? ( A OR B OR D-E? )
@@aaass200 yes. Use taiphoon burner. It should tell you all you want to know
Hi Li sasu shouldn't it be su Lisa? Did you get that new micron rev b 16gbit memory in sodimm format? Would be interesting to see how it goes at low voltage. 8gbit dual rank should have benefits in terms of performance for the same timings though
Why not just put a quick performance increase for all this trouble. for crazy 10 % do this what is the increase> Cinebench etc. 5-22% ????
No performance increase in CineBench whatsoever. Cinebench does not rely on memory speeds too much, but other production applications do. Expect benefits in more complex render scenes and in video editing.
By the way, this is video 2 of 2. Watch part 1 and you will see performance comparisons.
Thanks for your help. I have 2 x 16GB cjr g.skill ripjaws 3200 18 18 18 1.2V. I have tuned it to 3600 18 20 20. I might be able to squeeze some more improvement still. Here are my settings: imgur.com/gallery/W5CQ2Az - cljdrvstren=40 other drv stren=24 cad bus all=0 and RTTNOM =disalbed rttwr=rzq/3 rttpark=rzq/1
Nice! 3600 Cl18-20-20 is awesome :) You could try to lower your VSoC a little. Maybe to 1.075V, or even 1.050V. But make sure you don't loose performance. Too low VSoC does not crash straight away but introduces some delays. You will typically see that with corona benchmark quite well.
hey are you able to run ryzen master when clevo controll center is installed?
yes but they recommend a specific version with their latest control center version 3.0.. Don't remember exactly. But I think it was my version RM 2.3.0. To be specific I run Ryzen Master version 2.3.0.1591 and it works as far as I can remember. Don't use the Control Center anymore.
@@TechModLab i installed ryzen master then installed the clevo control center v3
ryzem master was working prior to clevo control center
now im gonna try and install the newer version hopefully it works this time around
@@TechModLab finally got it working i installed versions 3.02 of CCenter
and RM 2.6
and also the chipset driver from XMG all good now it seems the very first version of CC does not work with the latest RM versions
oh i forgot to say great video! keep it up and cant wait to see you tweak the crucial 1.35v 3200mhz ram because i have the exact same one
@@TechModLab nvm it stopped working again after a restart...