Many old movies blanket portray native Americans as cartoonish villains. Many new movies blanket portray us as pacifist primitives. This movie portrays us as complex societies that have normal human tendencies to violence with complicated politics. We never lived in perfect peaceful bliss, just like any other civilization. I feel content with this movie.
A writer named Dan Simmons had written a few stories about Native Americans that differ from the norm. In the intro to "Sleeping With Teeth Women" he said the story was his answer to 'Dances With Wolves.' He said he had very little Sioux blood but even if he were full blooded he would rather be remembered as a respected and worthy enemy than a politically correct victim. His novel, "Black Hills" had an interesting premise. A Lakota child is on the battlefield after Little Big Horn taking coup. He doesn't have a coup stick so he touches them. This young man has some psychic abilities and as he touches Custer at the exact moment of his death Custer enters him. Throughout his life he has discussions and arguments with Custer. Many critics hated the book because he didn't portray the Lokata as victims. At one point Custer reminds the protagonist that the Lokota and other Sioux were a conquering force on the plains long before any white men showed up.
Yes native american tribes were constantly at war with eachother before europeans arrived. The larger tribes would genocide the smaller or colonise them. Later they also kept African slaves which is never mentioned.
There's a great film set in early 17th century New France, "Black Robe," that I recommend to anyone with interest in the history. The plot follows a Jesuit missionary's voyage from Quebec City to a remote Huron village, with a party of Algonquin as guides. It paints a brutal, but I think quite fair depiction of the cultures and the collisions between them at the time and place. Lothaire Bluteau, as the priest, and August Schellenberg as the Algonquin patriarch put on a very good performance.
Remember Native Americans are not homogeneous. There are different tribes, nations with a wide range of cultures and languages. The people that killed the family in the beginning are Comanche and the prisoners are Cheyenne (I think).
Comanche is the word other tribes gave them. Comanche means "Enemy". They were the Lords of the Plains and their skills on horseback are unsurpassed. The Comanche call themselves "Nuumunuh" (spelling) which means "The People". Every native american tribes' name seems to translate as "The People".
@@bhowe8696 . Most..some have variations .. one my Miccosukee relatives are " Chief people " ..Unless I'm mistaken..I am no expert..but I think " Sukee" means people and "Micco" means chief..so Miccosukee is Chief people. I don't know why but I suspect the name for ourselves comes from us being made up of smaller tribes who survived wars in the north ( GA. and other areas close) ..we speak a different language than the Muskogee ( Seminole ) though we are related ..some Seminole calls us thier little cousins.
I'm native %100, and this is one of my all-time fav movies, this and Bone Tomahawk with Kurt Russel, that one is more of a horror movie, this one is more realistic. this was done with respect, and shows the horrors from both sides. that is me in the avatar, but when i was 7yrs old,... many moons ago. great reaction vid so far, can't wait for part 2 😎
Great reaction, this is one of my favorite movies because of how realistic it appears from everything I have found out about the time period. The greatest thing about it to me is that it shows the conflict from so many perspectives showing that from anyone of the perspectives you could understand why someone on a specific side would hate each other and think that they are in the right. Also understanding how huge of a generalization the term Native Americans is, the difference between the Cheyenne, Comanche, Apache, and hundreds of other tribes is huge. Also, the chaos of the west with people who often cannot communicate and can only go on their experience, or experience of people they know led to tons of conflict. Life and especially conflicts are much less clean cut in reality than often the way it is taught in school.
Excellent comment. Particularly the part about schools, which more frequently always blame the "white man" for the world's woes. Which, to be objective, the colonization of many places was a mixed bag. However, it also kickstarted the world into the current modern era, and forever diminished the distances between places from locations on a globe or map, to somewhere real that could be reached in only a few months, then later on, a few weeks. Several exchange students I know from Africa have often commented that while the British did not do a great job in their country, they did at least leave behind a means of universal communication; the English language. Prior to that, they had no single means of communicating to different tribes as literally each tribe had a different language. Still, they also acknowledge that the British gave many positive contributions to their native lands and peoples that would have never happened if they were not conquered. It's a bizarre love-hate relationship with an historical event that in the long run they felt was positive, but in the short term of 50-100 years of British colonialism, was definitely negative.
It was a wild time both sides suffered and committed atrocities amongst each other. they were cheyenne people being escorted. And the comanche are the raiders . Two different tribes and on and off enemies with each other.. it is stupid that they attacked the soldiers but it was common for them to do so they were very brave and ferocious as were the apache Sioux and cheyenne .
@28:22 the stage is like the bus. But it's wagons that transport people. The commander is saying sorry because the stage stopped coming there 6 months ago.
Some native nations were peaceful - others were warriors whose breath was fire - nations like the Comanche were feared by all and they fought without mercy
What happened to the Indians/Native Americans was genocide; but that word is replaced by "Manifest Destiny". Over 100 tribes have become extinct since Columbus set foot in the New World.
the Movie Hostiles showed that everyone are Hostiles no matter the race every race will do anything to take away from others since it all comes down to "Greed" and that goes for the Indian's as well who has taken the lives and land of other Indian race tribes for hundreds and thousands of year even before Europeans ever stepped foot on North America....so in the end it all leads to 3 things that are the seeds for someone to become Hostile and that is "Fear" "Hate" and "Greed"
This was life back in the Old West. There's a lot of other classic westerns from John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, Tom Selleck, Sam Elliott, and Kevin Costner.
I read it takes on average 1 hour to produce 1 minute of UA-cam video…respect to whoever produces these…is it Larry? Ellie? Please watch No Country for Old Men…an Oscar winning masterpiece
amazing reaction! Yeah the Comanche were arguably the most feared tribe to go up against, due to their extreme intelligence with horses, weaponry, landscapes, speed, and their overall ruthlessness for anyone that was on their land. Comanche's typically fought on the side of their horses at full speed, able to shoot weapons over the saddle. In the words of Yellow Hawk, they did not discriminate. They pretty much survived on buffalo, which were plentiful here in the states, nearly by the millions. Encroaching settlers on their land would scare the buffalo off, or kill them off, depleting the food source for the tribes, thus where a lot of the raiding began in America, there were centuries worth of battles fought between the Comanche tribes, and the army/texas rangers. Before them, they battled the Spanish as well as other native tribes. Certain Comanche "bands" as they were called were very peaceful, others were war parties. Their culture was extremely unique, and very intricate, and still is to this day. A lot was taken from them sadly, and their leader towards the end, Quanah Parker, was a great man who helped pave the way for the future treatment of Comanche after the surrender.
Good reaction. Although horses were reintroduced to North America by the the European settlers, Native Americans quickly mastered them. By the mid 1800's, 25-40 years before the setting of this movie, the Comanche tribe was, and still is considered to have been the best light calvary in the world at that time. Native Americans also had access to (then) state of the art firearms, which they both purchased and picked up on the battlefield. In fact, when the 7th Cavalry Regiment under General (Col.) Custer was mostly wiped out in 1876, many of the Native American warriors were armed with medium range, multiple shot rifles. The Army had single shot, long range rifles at the time.
This is in my opinion the best Western made in the last 20 years. And Chief Yellow Hawk and his family are Cheyenne, the people that killed Rosalee's family were Comanches.
So glad you reacted to this movie. In my opinion it was a very well done portrayal of life out on the edges of the frontier. Bad stuff was done by both sides as any other war. Plus there were tons of different clans and Nations of indigenous Americans. The movie shows how any person can become the worst of the worst if pushed enough. And sometimes people are just plain awful.
Imma say if you want to know just a bit more about life back then for Natives, read the book Empire of the Summer Moon. Not just a great history lesson, but a great story as well. Strongly Urge This. 😁
Great movie choice, even though it's definitely a depressing one haha! Too many people in the comments are missing the point, though. It's one thing to recognize that Native American peoples are as different as European, Asian, African peoples, but it's another thing entirely to try to use that to soften or sugar coat the inhumane atrocities experienced by Native Americans & committed by European settlers lol. This movie isn't saying BOTH sides were equally as bad. It's saying there is bad on both sides. That's TWO different things entirely lol.
Hi, Maggie & Larry! (I apologize if I didn't get your names correct). I was born in the North Eastern United States, and spent a significant part of my growing up years as a dependant of a parent, who was employed by the U.S. Govt. State Department's Foreign Service, & therefore spent most of my growing up formative years in Asia. I am very appreciative of both of your opinions about this movie storyline, as it represents a chapter in American history, from roughly one century ago. Thank you for presenting your reaction video for this movie, & best wishes to you both!
I think that they don't know that there were some bad Indian tribes and good ones, I think Ellie might be confused and the good Indians hated other Indian that used to kill for sport use blood as face paint
Great recation to a very good western! And YES - finally someone's recting to a western (other than "Django Unchained" or the not so good "Tombstone"). My suggestion (one of the last genre-masterpieces): "OPEN RANGE" with Robert Duvall and Kevin Costner. Or "BRIMSTONE", which is even more darker than "Hostiles"!
"I'm not sure on which side I should be here." That's actually the whole point of the movie. Both sides did incredibly horrible things thinking they had the right to protect themselves and their lands... but whose land was it really? And should the Europeans/Americans have been there to begin with? I love the fact that this movie treats both men with dignity, but don't shy away from the horrors of the atrocities and how it affected them. As a veteran myself, it's one of the most honest portrayals of veterans I've seen in a long time.
I'd like to point out that there's good and bad in each side no matter if your native or European everyone is getting a revenge for something that might have happened in the past. But at the end we are all Americans.
There are many different tribes of native Americans just like their are many different ethnic groups in Europe. There was war and fights between tribes too. That’s why the chief was trying to be unchained because he knew a different tribe would attack them as well.
I know this is a few years old, but I will tell you why the Comanche were trying to find the lady with the dead baby. Because they are Comanches is why. The Comanche tribe were brutal warriors and they raided and killed everyone. Spaniards, Anglo Settlers, Mexicans, Apache... you name it and the Comanches raided and killed them. They often kidnapped women and made them slaves in their tribe. However as late as the timeline of this movie is (1892) the only "in the wild: Comanche left were renegades and their only purpose was to eat to survive and kill people. The Comanche tribe under Chief Quanah Parker officially surrendered to the US Army in 1875 and were moved to Oklahoma "Indian" Territory.
Elli is correct again... for the most part, tribes of the east coast melted together with less problems, but tribes met in westward expansion were at war for over 500 years with each other already.... why it was all bare land
It's a total myth that the Natives were peaceful and wonderful before the Europeans came. They were killing each other and taking one another's land, long long before the Europeans arrived. Some were even wiped out. It's also hilarious that they are associated with horses so much Europeans brought them over. There were horses in North America but the Natives hunted them all to extinction.
bbwng54 There were no horses left when Europeans first came to the Americas. They had been hunted to extinction tens of thousands of years earlier. At least ten thousand years before any animals had been domesticated. The Native Americans really had no domesticated animals, except for dogs, which they used as labor animals & food.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 LOL they didn't hunt the ancient Murican horses to extinction. The horses died off due to climate change. & sure other tribes warred with other tribes, but that doesn't even come close to nullifying all the atrocities committed by European peoples against Native American peoples. It's one thing to recognize that Native American tribes were all different & came into conflict, but it's another thing to use that information as though it should soften the historical atrocities done to the indigenous of America by European settlers.
FYI,,,,,,the Commanche attacking the soldiers are from a different tribe of Indians than the Prisoner Indians. Some tribes fought against each other as well. As for why they were so cruel to each other Larry had it right. Both sides are at fault but it is the settlers coming in from Europe that started it all. A lot of bad people back in those days with no law found to help the Indians. So when you come home and your village is gone and all your relatives dead what do think they would do? Land was the other issue of course. But that is what started the back and forth killing of each other. The scalping of mens heads was the custom for Indian Warriors as it showed bravery and gave proof of their kill.
guilty of nothing but squatting on stolen land and my ancestord were just protecting what they had left we were just ants at there picnic you should check out Dances with wolves or Thunderheart or Smoke signals
I like how this guy points out that the Europeans taking over native lands is what humans do not excusing the atrocities that happened but I’ve never understood why people act so surprised by it…it’s sad but it’s something humans from all cultures have been doing for thousands of years
You have no understanding of the interaction between the European settlers and the "native" American Indians. The indians fought wars of genocide amongst themselve for centuries prior to the Europeans arriving. When the Europeans arrived the indians aggressively established trade with them to aquire guns, steel tools and other commodities. The guns were sought for the express purpose of wiping out the other indian tribes and in fact the European powers were drawn into these indian wars by their trading parties.
This movie always hits hard for me as I am Aboriginal. Some of the atrocities my ancestors went through were unbelievable. There were different groups of aboriginals. Some of them good and some of them bad depending on the tribe. And some of the tribes were enemies against each other. There are also two main different types of aboriginals in North America. Indian(Native American) and Eskimo (Inuit or Inuk). Both had atrocities committed against them. And both of them were forced into residential schools. Christian Bale took on the movie because he wanted to show some of the grim realities. In real life Christian Bale very much supports Aboriginal people. In this movie it highlights how he comes to love and respect the Aboriginal peoples and his men were willing to die a protecting them at the end.
What happened to the tribes in the United States has been happening almost from the beginning of human history. There has only ever been two ways for a country to expand its borders: purchase the land or take the land by force. There is no high moral ground for any people group to stand upon because all people groups have done this, even the native tribes stole from one another. Regarding the Indian Wars, the only thing the United States should be ashamed of is the breaking of treaties and the pitiful treatment of conquered enemies.
Many different tribes they did it to each other not just the white man they raided and scalpe other tribes too. Not saying it's right what the Europeans did but sooner later it was gonna happen empires want land.
Ellie, the family killed at the beginning of the film were settlers on stolen land during the American expansion West. The natives killed them in retaliation for the widespread genocide against them. The white Europeans stole land from indigenous people from coast to coast. They were slaughtered, and those that survived were placed on isolated reservations guarded by the US military - the reservations still exist today! In addition they killed millions and millions of Buffalo that the plains Indians relied upon for food. America has a long, long history of genocide against native people and 400 years of slavery within our own borders. Internationally the Vietnam war an estimated 1-2 million Vietnamese were killed, and sadistic chemical weapons like napalm and agent orange were used against them. This brutality exists today with US wars in Iraq where 1 million civilians killed and 1 million displaced with a population of 25million. Again illegal chemical weapons were used, cluster bombs and white phosphorous explosives. Now the 20 year occupation of Afghanistan, and US backed coup d’ etats in Haiti, Honduras, Venezuela, Chile, Ukraine, and crippling illegal sanctions around the world causing the suffering and deaths of innocent civilians, referred to as "collective punishment", illegal under international law. America has a sadistic history of brutality and destruction. People who fight back to defend themselves are called terrorists. Let the truth be told.
That’s an incredibly simplistic, black & white statement. Things are always much more complicated than that. But please, keep making moronic, one note statements..🤦♂️
There has never been a good movie that seemed to be from the Indians perspective in westerns. Even Geronimo had to have the sympathetic Caucasian protagonists.
Guys…why are y’all watching horribly sad, depressing movies? They’re important, historic movies…but once WE see ‘em, most of US don’t wanna watch ‘em again. I love u guys, but u don’t need (for the most part) to react to movies that are so sad. Maybe try to keep it a bit lighter? Schindler’s List is another one - INCREDIBLE movie & is SO important to watch. Absolutely HEARTBREAKING. But maybe not react to those? Bc again, most of us don’t want to watch them again. Y’all don’t need to always listen to all ur viewers when they suggest heavy shit. Just a suggestion from a fan. I won’t b watching this reaction bc I’m tired of bawling my eyes out. Lol
@@teddiemack8071 idk man, lots of of those people, hell, most of those people south of Texas don't look like Spaniards, something's up. Meanwhile finding people in the US and Canada who don't look like Europeans, blacks and immigrants aside, is like playing Where's Waldo.
@@aaron87729 Then everyone in the world should return to the land they're from? The natives took from each other all the time and I am sure the people your people replaced would like their land back assuming your people didn't wipe them out. And the Natives should return to Asian where they're from anyway.
I come from the land of natives they're not bad people at all you get all crazy when you stick a bunch of a room together but and they're horribly racist against other Indian tribes
"from the land of natives". I'm Native and would LOVE to know where this land is lol. Where specifically are you talking about? & Natives can't be racist to other natives lol. Bigoted maybe. But not racist.
@@thomasanderson1989 Ah, Oklahoma. Although there are no reservations in Oklahoma. There used to be long ago, but no longer. Again, natives can't be racist to other natives, but they sure can be bigoted lol. Kiowas & Comanches can sometimes have that sort of visceral dislike as well (I know because I'm Kiowa).
Many old movies blanket portray native Americans as cartoonish villains. Many new movies blanket portray us as pacifist primitives. This movie portrays us as complex societies that have normal human tendencies to violence with complicated politics. We never lived in perfect peaceful bliss, just like any other civilization. I feel content with this movie.
A writer named Dan Simmons had written a few stories about Native Americans that differ from the norm. In the intro to "Sleeping With Teeth Women" he said the story was his answer to 'Dances With Wolves.' He said he had very little Sioux blood but even if he were full blooded he would rather be remembered as a respected and worthy enemy than a politically correct victim. His novel, "Black Hills" had an interesting premise. A Lakota child is on the battlefield after Little Big Horn taking coup. He doesn't have a coup stick so he touches them. This young man has some psychic abilities and as he touches Custer at the exact moment of his death Custer enters him. Throughout his life he has discussions and arguments with Custer. Many critics hated the book because he didn't portray the Lokata as victims. At one point Custer reminds the protagonist that the Lokota and other Sioux were a conquering force on the plains long before any white men showed up.
Yes native american tribes were constantly at war with eachother before europeans arrived. The larger tribes would genocide the smaller or colonise them. Later they also kept African slaves which is never mentioned.
There's a great film set in early 17th century New France, "Black Robe," that I recommend to anyone with interest in the history. The plot follows a Jesuit missionary's voyage from Quebec City to a remote Huron village, with a party of Algonquin as guides. It paints a brutal, but I think quite fair depiction of the cultures and the collisions between them at the time and place. Lothaire Bluteau, as the priest, and August Schellenberg as the Algonquin patriarch put on a very good performance.
@@Zwia. . Yes..all those native american plantations from coast to coast😃
It's no different anywhere you look.
Holy shit, this movie NEVER gets talked about. So glad you’re reacting to it, it’s one of my personal favorites!
Remember Native Americans are not homogeneous. There are different tribes, nations with a wide range of cultures and languages. The people that killed the family in the beginning are Comanche and the prisoners are Cheyenne (I think).
yes you are right
Comanche is the word other tribes gave them. Comanche means "Enemy". They were the Lords of the Plains and their skills on horseback are unsurpassed. The Comanche call themselves "Nuumunuh" (spelling) which means "The People". Every native american tribes' name seems to translate as "The People".
@@bhowe8696 Unless you're Lakota, in which case that name translates to "Allies".
@@bhowe8696 . Most..some have variations .. one my Miccosukee relatives are " Chief people " ..Unless I'm mistaken..I am no expert..but I think " Sukee" means people and "Micco" means chief..so Miccosukee is Chief people. I don't know why but I suspect the name for ourselves comes from us being made up of smaller tribes who survived wars in the north ( GA. and other areas close) ..we speak a different language than the Muskogee ( Seminole ) though we are related ..some Seminole calls us thier little cousins.
I'm native %100, and this is one of my all-time fav movies, this and Bone Tomahawk with Kurt Russel, that one is more of a horror movie, this one is more realistic. this was done with respect, and shows the horrors from both sides. that is me in the avatar, but when i was 7yrs old,... many moons ago. great reaction vid so far, can't wait for part 2 😎
Bone Tomahawk, now THAT, was a gory movie.
Especially that scene where that dude got split like a hog. That was terrifying.
The Last Of The Mohicans and The Broken Chain..movies about eastern tribes ..good films also..in my opinion
Great reaction, this is one of my favorite movies because of how realistic it appears from everything I have found out about the time period. The greatest thing about it to me is that it shows the conflict from so many perspectives showing that from anyone of the perspectives you could understand why someone on a specific side would hate each other and think that they are in the right. Also understanding how huge of a generalization the term Native Americans is, the difference between the Cheyenne, Comanche, Apache, and hundreds of other tribes is huge. Also, the chaos of the west with people who often cannot communicate and can only go on their experience, or experience of people they know led to tons of conflict. Life and especially conflicts are much less clean cut in reality than often the way it is taught in school.
Excellent comment. Particularly the part about schools, which more frequently always blame the "white man" for the world's woes. Which, to be objective, the colonization of many places was a mixed bag. However, it also kickstarted the world into the current modern era, and forever diminished the distances between places from locations on a globe or map, to somewhere real that could be reached in only a few months, then later on, a few weeks. Several exchange students I know from Africa have often commented that while the British did not do a great job in their country, they did at least leave behind a means of universal communication; the English language. Prior to that, they had no single means of communicating to different tribes as literally each tribe had a different language. Still, they also acknowledge that the British gave many positive contributions to their native lands and peoples that would have never happened if they were not conquered. It's a bizarre love-hate relationship with an historical event that in the long run they felt was positive, but in the short term of 50-100 years of British colonialism, was definitely negative.
It was a wild time both sides suffered and committed atrocities amongst each other. they were cheyenne people being escorted. And the comanche are the raiders . Two different tribes and on and off enemies with each other.. it is stupid that they attacked the soldiers but it was common for them to do so they were very brave and ferocious as were the apache Sioux and cheyenne .
@28:22 the stage is like the bus. But it's wagons that transport people. The commander is saying sorry because the stage stopped coming there 6 months ago.
Also y’all should react to “Dances With Wolves” I’m sure y’all would love it.
Some native nations were peaceful - others were warriors whose breath was fire - nations like the Comanche were feared by all and they fought without mercy
What happened to the Indians/Native Americans was genocide; but that word is replaced by "Manifest Destiny". Over 100 tribes have become extinct since Columbus set foot in the New World.
And hundreds of thousands of animal species are extinct since humans came up with industrialization. You should pay for that as well.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 not to mention indians kill each other for sacrifices and animals too for food!!
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 the price of progress
Christian Bale as always inimitable !!!
Hostiles is one of the best movies of Christian Bale acting and the Native American story in cinema. How it never gets talked about is a crime. 💕
I know
Christian Bales moustache is glorious.
the Movie Hostiles showed that everyone are Hostiles no matter the race every race will do anything to take away from others since it all comes down to "Greed" and that goes for the Indian's as well who has taken the lives and land of other Indian race tribes for hundreds and thousands of year even before Europeans ever stepped foot on North America....so in the end it all leads to 3 things that are the seeds for someone to become Hostile and that is "Fear" "Hate" and "Greed"
Oh my God I NEVER expected anyone to react to this!! Thank You!!!
3:10 to Yuma and open range are also fantastic westerns
This was life back in the Old West. There's a lot of other classic westerns from John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, Tom Selleck, Sam Elliott, and Kevin Costner.
Really glad you did this movie, it's one of my favorites in recent years.
Heavy movie… what an understatement.
This is Christian Bale’s best performance, in my opinion. The raw emotion…
One of the most brutal westerns I’ve seen. Fuckin Tragic.
I read it takes on average 1 hour to produce 1 minute of UA-cam video…respect to whoever produces these…is it Larry? Ellie?
Please watch No Country for Old Men…an Oscar winning masterpiece
amazing reaction! Yeah the Comanche were arguably the most feared tribe to go up against, due to their extreme intelligence with horses, weaponry, landscapes, speed, and their overall ruthlessness for anyone that was on their land. Comanche's typically fought on the side of their horses at full speed, able to shoot weapons over the saddle. In the words of Yellow Hawk, they did not discriminate. They pretty much survived on buffalo, which were plentiful here in the states, nearly by the millions. Encroaching settlers on their land would scare the buffalo off, or kill them off, depleting the food source for the tribes, thus where a lot of the raiding began in America, there were centuries worth of battles fought between the Comanche tribes, and the army/texas rangers. Before them, they battled the Spanish as well as other native tribes. Certain Comanche "bands" as they were called were very peaceful, others were war parties. Their culture was extremely unique, and very intricate, and still is to this day. A lot was taken from them sadly, and their leader towards the end, Quanah Parker, was a great man who helped pave the way for the future treatment of Comanche after the surrender.
Good reaction. Although horses were reintroduced to North America by the the European settlers, Native Americans quickly mastered them. By the mid 1800's, 25-40 years before the setting of this movie, the Comanche tribe was, and still is considered to have been the best light calvary in the world at that time. Native Americans also had access to (then) state of the art firearms, which they both purchased and picked up on the battlefield. In fact, when the 7th Cavalry Regiment under General (Col.) Custer was mostly wiped out in 1876, many of the Native American warriors were armed with medium range, multiple shot rifles. The Army had single shot, long range rifles at the time.
In terms of cinemautography thise movie is amazing .💓
This is in my opinion the best Western made in the last 20 years. And Chief Yellow Hawk and his family are Cheyenne, the people that killed Rosalee's family were Comanches.
So glad you reacted to this movie. In my opinion it was a very well done portrayal of life out on the edges of the frontier. Bad stuff was done by both sides as any other war. Plus there were tons of different clans and Nations of indigenous Americans. The movie shows how any person can become the worst of the worst if pushed enough. And sometimes people are just plain awful.
As others have mentioned, please watch Dances with Wolves!
Different Native American tribes also warred with each other at times.
Yeah liberals like to blame genocide on whites so easily. Double standard has to stop.
Some tribes were totally wiped out by other tribes too. Ceased to exist. Not a frequent occurrence but it did happen.
@@SaRENRampaiger we did do it the best tho
Imma say if you want to know just a bit more about life back then for Natives, read the book Empire of the Summer Moon. Not just a great history lesson, but a great story as well. Strongly Urge This. 😁
Great movie choice, even though it's definitely a depressing one haha! Too many people in the comments are missing the point, though. It's one thing to recognize that Native American peoples are as different as European, Asian, African peoples, but it's another thing entirely to try to use that to soften or sugar coat the inhumane atrocities experienced by Native Americans & committed by European settlers lol. This movie isn't saying BOTH sides were equally as bad. It's saying there is bad on both sides. That's TWO different things entirely lol.
Hi, Maggie & Larry! (I apologize if I didn't get your names correct). I was born in the North Eastern United States, and spent a significant part of my growing up years as a dependant of a parent, who was employed by the U.S. Govt. State Department's Foreign Service, & therefore spent most of my growing up formative years in Asia. I am very appreciative of both of your opinions about this movie storyline, as it represents a chapter in American history, from roughly one century ago. Thank you for presenting your reaction video for this movie, & best wishes to you both!
This a good movie but agree with another post Dances with Wolves is a better watch
I think that they don't know that there were some bad Indian tribes and good ones, I think Ellie might be confused and the good Indians hated other Indian that used to kill for sport use blood as face paint
You two are awesome, and you both are a joy to watch. I love your reaction to the movies, keep up the good work.
Great recation to a very good western!
And YES - finally someone's recting to a western (other than "Django Unchained" or the not so good "Tombstone"). My suggestion (one of the last genre-masterpieces): "OPEN RANGE" with Robert Duvall and Kevin Costner. Or "BRIMSTONE", which is even more darker than "Hostiles"!
LAST of the MOHICANS
@15:34 Your reaction is so genuine and human that it actually gives me hope for the world. Empathy is so powerful...
Horses basically like to be in water on a hot day, like humans. Not too many are afraid of water.
"I'm not sure on which side I should be here." That's actually the whole point of the movie. Both sides did incredibly horrible things thinking they had the right to protect themselves and their lands... but whose land was it really? And should the Europeans/Americans have been there to begin with? I love the fact that this movie treats both men with dignity, but don't shy away from the horrors of the atrocities and how it affected them. As a veteran myself, it's one of the most honest portrayals of veterans I've seen in a long time.
I'd like to point out that there's good and bad in each side no matter if your native or European everyone is getting a revenge for something that might have happened in the past. But at the end we are all Americans.
Some tribes were enemies of other tribes. They were fighting with each other before the Europeans even came to American.
Thank you so much for reacting to this!
The hole history of humans, you're damn right.
There are many different tribes of native Americans just like their are many different ethnic groups in Europe. There was war and fights between tribes too. That’s why the chief was trying to be unchained because he knew a different tribe would attack them as well.
I know this is a few years old, but I will tell you why the Comanche were trying to find the lady with the dead baby. Because they are Comanches is why. The Comanche tribe were brutal warriors and they raided and killed everyone. Spaniards, Anglo Settlers, Mexicans, Apache... you name it and the Comanches raided and killed them. They often kidnapped women and made them slaves in their tribe. However as late as the timeline of this movie is (1892) the only "in the wild: Comanche left were renegades and their only purpose was to eat to survive and kill people. The Comanche tribe under Chief Quanah Parker officially surrendered to the US Army in 1875 and were moved to Oklahoma "Indian" Territory.
I give the movie 5star ratings. Its a great period film but underrated and suspiciously and biasedly snubbed by the Oscars. It is a must watch movie.
Yes I know you would really enjoy Dances with Wolves.
Elli is correct again... for the most part, tribes of the east coast melted together with less problems, but tribes met in westward expansion were at war for over 500 years with each other already.... why it was all bare land
Hey Ellie I recommend you "Million dollar baby" which won best picture on the oscar and it's a masterpiece
Christian Bale is Phénoménal
One of the best movies in decades.
It's a total myth that the Natives were peaceful and wonderful before the Europeans came. They were killing each other and taking one another's land, long long before the Europeans arrived. Some were even wiped out.
It's also hilarious that they are associated with horses so much Europeans brought them over. There were horses in North America but the Natives hunted them all to extinction.
That's a silly comment. Horses are vital for mobility, hunting, etc. and prized- why would they hunt them to extinction?
bbwng54 There were no horses left when Europeans first came to the Americas. They had been hunted to extinction tens of thousands of years earlier. At least ten thousand years before any animals had been domesticated. The Native Americans really had no domesticated animals, except for dogs, which they used as labor animals & food.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 LOL they didn't hunt the ancient Murican horses to extinction. The horses died off due to climate change.
& sure other tribes warred with other tribes, but that doesn't even come close to nullifying all the atrocities committed by European peoples against Native American peoples. It's one thing to recognize that Native American tribes were all different & came into conflict, but it's another thing to use that information as though it should soften the historical atrocities done to the indigenous of America by European settlers.
@@bbwng54 the horses died off due to climate change. There weren't very many to begin with.
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Hi! If you dont see,Dancing with Wolfs, i recomand you to see. And movie,aA Man called Horse.
FYI,,,,,,the Commanche attacking the soldiers are from a different tribe of Indians than the Prisoner Indians. Some tribes fought against each other as well. As for why they were so cruel to each other Larry had it right. Both sides are at fault but it is the settlers coming in from Europe that started it all. A lot of bad people back in those days with no law found to help the Indians. So when you come home and your village is gone and all your relatives dead what do think they would do? Land was the other issue of course. But that is what started the back and forth killing of each other. The scalping of mens heads was the custom for Indian Warriors as it showed bravery and gave proof of their kill.
Please react to Clint Eastwood's Gran Torino...Thanks!!!
guilty of nothing but squatting on stolen land and my ancestord were just protecting what they had left we were just ants at there picnic you should check out Dances with wolves or Thunderheart or Smoke signals
Love Larry! Very smart and knowledgeable guy! 🧠❗🤓
The guy at the start just started shooting at them.
I percent of Americans are Native Americans
I like how this guy points out that the Europeans taking over native lands is what humans do not excusing the atrocities that happened but I’ve never understood why people act so surprised by it…it’s sad but it’s something humans from all cultures have been doing for thousands of years
Almost something like - "Amistad".
New viewer here. Where are you two from? Nice accents.
Larry is a smart man
Will you react to season 2 of stranger things? Also a show recommendation is invincible and umbrella academy.
You have no understanding of the interaction between the European settlers and the "native" American Indians. The indians fought wars of genocide amongst themselve for centuries prior to the Europeans arriving. When the Europeans arrived the indians aggressively established trade with them to aquire guns, steel tools and other commodities. The guns were sought for the express purpose of wiping out the other indian tribes and in fact the European powers were drawn into these indian wars by their trading parties.
This movie always hits hard for me as I am Aboriginal. Some of the atrocities my ancestors went through were unbelievable. There were different groups of aboriginals. Some of them good and some of them bad depending on the tribe. And some of the tribes were enemies against each other. There are also two main different types of aboriginals in North America. Indian(Native American) and Eskimo (Inuit or Inuk). Both had atrocities committed against them. And both of them were forced into residential schools. Christian Bale took on the movie because he wanted to show some of the grim realities. In real life Christian Bale very much supports Aboriginal people. In this movie it highlights how he comes to love and respect the Aboriginal peoples and his men were willing to die a protecting them at the end.
Why are they killing kids?, their savagery knew no limits.
Only the brave would be a good reaction
Too many broken treaties
soo goooodododdo
What happened to the tribes in the United States has been happening almost from the beginning of human history. There has only ever been two ways for a country to expand its borders: purchase the land or take the land by force. There is no high moral ground for any people group to stand upon because all people groups have done this, even the native tribes stole from one another. Regarding the Indian Wars, the only thing the United States should be ashamed of is the breaking of treaties and the pitiful treatment of conquered enemies.
Amistad is another great movie, you should watch
13:48 Touching a Native woman's braids is probably the most disrespectful thing you could possibly do.
Can you react to Kung Fu Panda, it’s a great trilogy
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Many different tribes they did it to each other not just the white man they raided and scalpe other tribes too. Not saying it's right what the Europeans did but sooner later it was gonna happen empires want land.
Ellie, the family killed at the beginning of the film were settlers on stolen land during the American expansion West. The natives killed them in retaliation for the widespread genocide against them. The white Europeans stole land from indigenous people from coast to coast. They were slaughtered, and those that survived were placed on isolated reservations guarded by the US military - the reservations still exist today! In addition they killed millions and millions of Buffalo that the plains Indians relied upon for food. America has a long, long history of genocide against native people and 400 years of slavery within our own borders. Internationally the Vietnam war an estimated 1-2 million Vietnamese were killed, and sadistic chemical weapons like napalm and agent orange were used against them. This brutality exists today with US wars in Iraq where 1 million civilians killed and 1 million displaced with a population of 25million. Again illegal chemical weapons were used, cluster bombs and white phosphorous explosives. Now the 20 year occupation of Afghanistan, and US backed coup d’ etats in Haiti, Honduras, Venezuela, Chile, Ukraine, and crippling illegal sanctions around the world causing the suffering and deaths of innocent civilians, referred to as "collective punishment", illegal under international law. America has a sadistic history of brutality and destruction. People who fight back to defend themselves are called terrorists. Let the truth be told.
That’s an incredibly simplistic, black & white statement. Things are always much more complicated than that. But please, keep making moronic, one note statements..🤦♂️
Just tell that to the Aztecs or Mayans who kill their own tribes for Bloodsport and pleasing the sun god for blood sacrifice
There has never been a good movie that seemed to be from the Indians perspective in westerns. Even Geronimo had to have the sympathetic Caucasian protagonists.
Please please react to ‘Casualties Of War ‘. Micheal J Fox, Sean Penn. Ellie make sure you bring a whole tissue box.
Also watch 3:10 To Yuma.
No honor
Guys…why are y’all watching horribly sad, depressing movies? They’re important, historic movies…but once WE see ‘em, most of US don’t wanna watch ‘em again. I love u guys, but u don’t need (for the most part) to react to movies that are so sad. Maybe try to keep it a bit lighter? Schindler’s List is another one - INCREDIBLE movie & is SO important to watch. Absolutely HEARTBREAKING. But maybe not react to those? Bc again, most of us don’t want to watch them again. Y’all don’t need to always listen to all ur viewers when they suggest heavy shit. Just a suggestion from a fan. I won’t b watching this reaction bc I’m tired of bawling my eyes out. Lol
Iť’s important to watch depressing movies like this one to be able to think about important stuff.
Make America Native Again
@@teddiemack8071 ⬆️ this 👍😂
@@teddiemack8071 The only European I have is my last name, in my DNA test it is written that I am 97.1% native American and 2.9% Inuit
@@teddiemack8071 then have a good trip friend
@@teddiemack8071 idk man, lots of of those people, hell, most of those people south of Texas don't look like Spaniards, something's up. Meanwhile finding people in the US and Canada who don't look like Europeans, blacks and immigrants aside, is like playing Where's Waldo.
@@aaron87729 Then everyone in the world should return to the land they're from? The natives took from each other all the time and I am sure the people your people replaced would like their land back assuming your people didn't wipe them out.
And the Natives should return to Asian where they're from anyway.
Why do you cry at everything?
What the movie sis sad what are they supposed to do,laugh,are you an idiot
I come from the land of natives they're not bad people at all you get all crazy when you stick a bunch of a room together but and they're horribly racist against other Indian tribes
"from the land of natives". I'm Native and would LOVE to know where this land is lol. Where specifically are you talking about? & Natives can't be racist to other natives lol. Bigoted maybe. But not racist.
@@tsotighguy i am from Oklahoma there are 3 res with a hours drive
My buddy Phil is Blackfoot and wouldn't shake hand with a Ponca
@@thomasanderson1989 Ah, Oklahoma. Although there are no reservations in Oklahoma. There used to be long ago, but no longer.
Again, natives can't be racist to other natives, but they sure can be bigoted lol. Kiowas & Comanches can sometimes have that sort of visceral dislike as well (I know because I'm Kiowa).
I don't think I will tell tribal police the thay don't have res next time i get pulled over