Justin Credible on Mike Awesome Jumping to WCW While ECW Champion
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Mike Awesome did the right thing. He's risking his health and his life and the company he works for can't even pay him. I would have gladly thrown the ECW belt in the trash on Nitro. One of the scummiest things you can do is not pay your employees.
RVD stated he tried to stick it out for a while, but the amount Paul owed him just got too big to the point, RVD knew there was no way he would be paid. RVD still talks highly of Paul creatively, just not as a businessman.
😂😂😂 who cares
@@parisbeech2180 You
Paul was a scumbag who leeches off his talent, and naturally that made him a great top management to Vince.
vince russo turned mike awesome into that 70s guy, i still cant get over it
@TheGOAT-hj6sl nah that was all russo, he made him be the 70s guy and drive the patridge family bus and also made him team up with 70s sitcom star gary coleman, thats all vince russo garbage
The fat chick thriller 😂😂😂
Vince Russo always brags about how great a wrestling mind. What he did to Mike Awesome loses all that clout.
I was at that PPV in Chicago in 99 in Villa Park. I met JC at the meet n greet and he was such a cool guy! Took a couple pics and he signed a couple magazines for me. Couldn’t have been any nicer! Did see him over by the t-shirt area and he came over and we started talking. He stayed in character a bit. Was very cool! Every wrestler that day couldn’t be any nicer! Jerry Lynn, New Jack, Lance Storm, Tommy, Don Callis, Joey Styles, Axl, Joel Gertner. Great time.
The wrestling business is no different than junior high school. If you’re in a certain clique, you can do whatever you want and nobody will turn on you. Mike Awesome wasn’t getting paid and he was the ECW champion. He went months without a paycheck so he decided to secure a good paying contract with a bigger, more financially stable company, and people like Joey styles and other talent just trashed the man for doing the same thing their buddies did, get paid.
That is true
As much as I always liked Joey Styles, the dude was always blinded by loyalty. Which, quite honestly, isn't a very healthy trait, business wise.
@@AlexKaneROTN sometimes it's a good thing. Hope your girlfriend is loyal to you. Because most of them are not
@@lukesmith9692 what the fuck is your problem???
@@lukesmith9692 Weird time and place to air your personal life problems but okay.
You can’t blame Mike Awesome for jumping to WCW for a guaranteed 6 figured contract after not being paid for months by ECW (I hear he was owed about $150,000 in unpaid wages). And Paul Heyman can’t complain and go on about Mike breaking his contract or shouldn’t have talked to WCW while under contract to ECW because I see it as Mike’s contract to ECW was null and void after Paul/ECW broke the terms of that contract by not paying Mike, so down to ECW’s own actions Mike was legally free to talk to whatever company he liked and free to wrestle for them ECW Heavyweight Champion or not. As long as he didn’t bring the belt out of Nitro or Thunder and didn’t talk about how ECW isn’t paying their wrestlers including their champions he was ok
Even if the contracts were strong the fact he wasn’t paying people in time moots enforcing them because he already breached them.
Awesome went from a respectable ECW champ to a complete failure in WCW
Wow!! He mentioned Steve Carol, he's right, Paul got into a situation with him, dont forgot his lackey, Greg Bagarosie
Fun fact Steven Spielberg, literally, had a pre-nup written on a napkin. Yeah didn't hold up in court
The finish of the match was weird booking it took interference from Dreamer for Taz to beat Awesome
Paul Heyman was a creative and political genius. But he was a moral and financial idiot. That’s why ECW went under, he burned so many people that no one trust him enough to save the company. Had a man of integrity been running ECW, it possibly could’ve survived. And I’ll always believe McMahon always had an agreement with Heyman to pull the plug on ECW once WWF no longer could benefit from them.
Wait, wasn't Justin under WWE contract the whole time he was in ECW? Or was he not? I'm confused...
I would be have been better for you to time-release all your clips every few hours. It may have benefitted your algorithm.
Did you kick out at 2?
Mike awesome did what was right
Monday Nitro was the catalyst for the attitude era. Vince McMahon never gave a shit about what was going on in ECW. Vince Russo did.
Ecw was the catalyst for the success of Monday nitro and the nwo storyline ! All of the best cruiser weights came from ecw and the promos hall and Nash made were similar to what Austin and pillman made when they debuted on ecw calling out bischoff as the guy running wcw ! Also guys dropping their gimmicks came from ecw !
@@antonycuff4512 nobody cared about the cruiserweights.. they would get excited for Mysterio and his huricanrannas but for the most part it was some action that people got tired of and killed a bunch of finishers.. Pillman was a mid card guy and nobody noticed when he left.. I just rewatched Nitro and they weren't stealing from ECW.. They offered PPV type matches & atmosphere for free on live TV with a roster that was absolutely STACKED w huge stars
@@antonycuff4512 and btw I'm from NEPA so I watched a lot of ECW and enjoyed it
@@brobsty1856 benoit , Eddie , Jericho and Rey went on to be the future of the sport for the next 10 years ! wcw also pilfered ecw's other key talent like public enemy who took credit for tables , raven - raven's flock was one of their biggest angles for a while and the sand man ! Bischoff hired these guys even though he admits he doesn't like those types of wrestlers . he likes high level athletes !
I don't know what pillman did in wcw had to do with his and Austin's appearances in ecw and the promos they cut on bischoff and the similarities they had with hall's promo about bischoff !
I live by Hazleton and watched ecw on wyln !
@@antonycuff4512 I'm from Palmerton they used to run shows at Flagstaff which is a few miles away.
We're never gonna agree on this stuff. It was fun to rewatch Nitro on Peacock and see for myself how much of the WWE narrative about WCW is just plain wrong.
Those guys you named didn't mean much in WCW. Jericho was a mid card funny heel for a little while but did he move the needle? No. Those other guys weren't shit in WCW.
Mike Awesome doesn’t work for free.
It shows the difference though because 190 shirts is nothing compared to an arena of 13k people all buying DX and Stone Cold shirts… it’s like these guys still have some level of denial about how popular ECW really was
I've always said I think the legend of ECW I think is more than what ecw was. Was it revolutionary? Was it great tv? Was it booked great? Yes. But realistically it was really just a regional promotion that grew too big too quick
@@ryankeefe2102 totally agree mate, Kevin Nash summed it up best: “nobody got paid”. ECW has been massively romanticised over the years, it was always doomed because there’s only so many times you can watch a guy fall off a balcony or jump off a ladder
I partly agree with this. The difference imo is that when the wrestling business was in a lull from 94 to mid 96 ECW fans rocked the merch and spent their hard earn money to rep ECW and it's wrestlers out of support and love. Sure, as WWF and WCW got white hot their merch numbers blew ECW's out of the water. The business as a whole had never been commercially and financially successful, and it hasn't been since. But ECW's fan base put money into the product as the industry was dying and stars weren't drawing.
@@ChrisSuswal-de9tj yeah I agree, they had a better product or maybe even just it fitted pop culture better… Vince still wanted a Luger etc on top at that time.
I think the point he's making is that money was being made but some wrestlers still didn't get paid.
I think this is the first time I've ever heard Justin credible speak. I've been aware of his existence since 2001. But can't ever recall a time where I've heard him speak.